You know what? ZA really improved XY story, im genuinely happy about it
good for you
>>58561081XY always had potential, it was just unfinished
>>58561087>it was just unfinishednot really
>>58561121Yeah, really. The game was rushed and it shows.
>>58561137>rushed>has more content and polish than the games directly preceding it
>>58561170>polishThe game can barely keep a stable 30 framerate, the fuck are you on about?
>>58561181>it’s the game’s fault the 3DS is garbage
>>58561181>my heckin turn based game doesn’t have 120 fps? AIEEEEEEEE IT’S CLEARLY SHITYou’re right, they should have finished gen 4.
>>58561181The board would be better if you would have some restraint and not reply to yawnfag attempts at derailing
>>58561188Most previous Pokemon games didn't have this problem. Maybe 3D is at fault, even though the DS games also had that and were almost entirely fine outside of some inconsistent drops in some areas. But when that shit is pervasive as Gen 1 moves not working we've got a problem.>>58561196Unironically yes (although most of Gen 4's problems seem to be less about the performance and more about intentionally being slow as shit or straight up glitched in regards to the HP draing), and they did it's called Platinum and it's still worse than HGSS. Hell, I'm willing to let some performance issues slide if the game excels in other areas, Gen 7 still lags in battles but is better in almost every way that matters, and even ORAS at least has StreetPass that isn't worthless and is based on a way better game.
>>58561219>Gen 7 still lags in battlesGlad I wasnt the only one. Im surprised Gen7 doesnt get brought up regarding slowness. The battles geniunely felt slow as shit
>>58561219>Most previous Pokemon games didn't have this problemMost previous Pokemon games looked like complete shit compared to XY.>But when that shit is pervasive as Gen 1 moves not working we've got a problemYou being autistic about frames doesn’t make it a problem.
>>58561081XY's story was bad. ZA is just ok because it distanced itself so far from that trainwreck. But it still isn't great. Better than XY... but I wouldn't say it is better than any other game. It's kinda bland.
>>58561181>actually replying to yawnfaghow new
>>58561254Both games have better stories than RSE, DPPt, BW2, SS, and PLA.
>>58561170It didn't even have all the content of the Battle Subway. Fuck man, the Diamond and Pearl Battle Tower had more polish and content.
>>58561242It's mostly because Gen 6 has more ways to intentionally induce it, like turning on 3D or doing a triple battle. Despite being braindead easy the Triples Battle Maison is miserable because of that. Still a better experience than Gen 4 Battle Tower Local Multis.>>58561247>Most previous Pokemon games looked like complete shit compared to XY.In battle no it's usually consistently good give or take the occasional problem like RG's programmer art, in the overworld maybe RSE on a good day because XY and ORAS are easily in the same godawful tier.>>58561260Man RSE's story is way better than XY on the virtue of it interrupting you less while having marginally better writing. At least Archie and Maxie feel consistent with the world and their own henchmen.
>>58561170>polish>In the game where they AI in the Battle Maison is so exploitable you can get quadruple digit streaks with incredible ease
>>58561260>Both games have better stories than RSE, DPPt, BW2, SStrue>PLAdidn’t play, explain why
>>58561262>It didn't even have all the content of the Battle SubwayYes it did. And it had more content than the Battle Subway on top of that.>In battle noIn battle yes. XY objectively looks far better than every previous game in both battle and overworld.>At least Archie and Maxie feel consistent with the world and their own henchmenXY’s villains are also consistent if you actually paid attention to the game.
>>5856118130 in overworld, 60 in battle.Except in larger and more detailed places with more NPCs and objects to render and in battle the frame rate gets choppy during split screen and any battle with more than two Pokémon.>>58561188There are far bigger games on the 3DS that run better.
>>58561294>There are far bigger games on the 3DS that run betterAnd look as good? No there aren’t.
>>58561292>Yes it did.How do I play Wi-Fi mode?>In battle yes. XY objectively looks far better than every previous game in both battle and overworld.I don't think there's an objective way to determine that, but I'm pretty sure having higher quality models in the game and not using them in the overworld pretty much disqualifies it unfortunately. RSE doesn't have that excuse it just looks fucking dogshit.>XY’s villains are also consistent if you actually paid attention to the game.Then why does Lysandre think the world is bad when we see nothing bad until ORAS and SM, but Team Flare are the good ones even though basically every single one is the worst person you've ever met?>>58561294>30 in overworld, 60 in battle.https://youtu.be/SLTtYTzVOPw?si=kI5c9rd2V1Fh_BXt&t=142You might be confusing it with the fact that menus in almost every Pokemon game are consistently 60 fps for whatever reason.>>58561307ACNL looks pretty great, and they're using tons of assets ported forward from as far back the goddamn N64.
>>58561327>How do I play Wi-Fi mode?By playing Maison singles.>I don't think there's an objective way to determine thatYes there is. Do the Pokemon turn into a pixelated mess as soon as they move? No? Then it looks better than Gen 5. Are the Pokemon accurate to the source material and actually have context specific animations? Yes? Then it looks better than Gen 1-4.>but I'm pretty sure having higher quality models in the game and not using them in the overworld pretty much disqualifies it Show where Gen 1-5 do this.>Then why does Lysandre think the world is bad when we see nothing bad I’m sorry you’re retarded and completely missed the subplot about the homeless girl.>ACNL looks pretty great,And yet it looks worse than XY. No fucking shit you can have high FPS if you use dogshit quality models for the weak ass console.
>>58561355>By playing Maison singles.It's a different format, like Doubles and Multis. But, if you truly want to be reductive, in addtion to the above, due to Singles and Rotations having a similar exploit they're functionally the same, and due to Dounles and Triples having the exact same exploit they're functionally the same, so it's really just Singes and Doubles. Which given the immediate preceding game had the same reductive singles and doubles, but also a resource management and map navigation challenge (and a puzzle solving one but you might not consider that valid), unfortunately you're incorrect.
>>58561307Wow you forgot all the pixels. The original models have black borders and are pixelated. Plus the overworld is very mediocre for the 3DS.>>58561327DS fan servers allow online play. You can trade, battle, use mystery gift and do the Wi-Fi trains.
>>58561383>It's a different format, No it isn’t. It’s literally just singles.
>>58561355Nice picture, now let's see the overworld models.>No fucking shit you can have high FPS if you use dogshit quality models for the weak ass console.So you're saying they didn't optimize the game for the system they're making it for? Sounds like some Borderlands 4 shit, Randy.>>58561395>DS fan servers allow online play. You can trade, battle, use mystery gift and do the Wi-Fi trains.Now how do you do it in XY?>>58561396>No it isn’t. It’s literally just singles.The different Pokemon pool matters, just like Multis involving somebody you can't necessarily control matters.
>>58561421>Nice picture, now let's see the overworld models.Still looks better than Animal Crossing. Get a better argument.>So you're saying they didn't optimize the game for the system they're making it for“Optimize” doesn’t mean “make the fps as high as possible”, dumbfuck.>The different Pokemon pool matters,Ok then the Maison still has more content than the Subway because it has a larger Pokemon pool.
>>58561355Acnl looks way better than this. Sure the model looks nicer but it does not look good in game
>>58561450>Acnl looks way better than thisNo it doesn’t.
>>58561463Yes it does
>>58561479No it doesn’t
>>58561355Can you get pregnant? I'll get you get pregnant while playing XY.
>>58561421In XY? As of now, you can't. Wait until Pretendo works
>>58561463Prettier than I remember. Is ACNL worth playing over ACNH?
>>58561537Absolutely. It has a more comfy down to earth vibe than ACNH. Love ACNH but sometimes being too ambitious means you just dont have that ac feel anymore
>>58561215>>58561259
>>58561081I bought Pokemon Y and AS at the same time. Beat AS and transferred all my Pokemon into the bank and transferred to Y. I also managed to transferred Pokemon from past generations to AS. 20 minutes into Y my whole game save was corrupted and I lost every single Pokemon I had. I got so pissed I threw my 3DS off the balcony of my 3rd story apartment. So I don’t really know its story. LZA wasn’t bad. Wasn’t as good as LA. Or any other Pokemon game I’ve played to date. But I thoroughly enjoyed the battle mechanics. I think that’s far superior than the traditional turn based mechanics from the past. I also like running around in battle.
>>58561292>Yes it did. And it had more content than the Battle Subway on top of that.What is the "more" that it had?
>>58561625Rotation Battles and Triple BattlesI can’t wait to see your cope for how these don’t count
>>58561625It takes longer to get all rewards from any single format due to lag.
Reminder yawnfag doesn't actually like XY.
>>58561732>>58561736Hi
>>58561510>In XY? As of now, you can't. Wait until Pretendo worksPretendo has several Pokemon servers up, but not all of them and not consistently especially because the GTS is a mess. It will never have Wi Fi Battle Maison thought because it doesn't fucking exist despite being a staple of every Pokemon game with online dating back to the original Japanese Crystal Battle Tower.Fun Fact: The International Crystal Battle Tower has a way to trivialize it like basically every XY Battle Maison format, in the form of Level 10 Aerodactyl (since the rewards are functionally the same for every format it doesn't matter which you do).
>>58561738Why are you in a thread with dudes kissing? What are you, gay?
I'm still reeling about South Kalos from the teraleak.
>>58561743日>>58561744月>>58561747強靭な四肢を持つ巨人型のポケモン。巨大かつ屈強な体躯に見合うパワーを持ち、「縄で縛った大陸を引っ張って動かした」という伝説が残る。シンオウ地方では大地をつかさどるポケモンとも呼ばれている。特殊な岩石からレジロック、氷山からレジアイス、マグマからレジスチルを製造したらしく、普段は眠っているが、これらの創られた巨人が集うと存在を感じ取って目覚めるとされている。
>>58561715So a downgrade from Wifi battles. Also, I know you can't hype up those modes since that would be promoting battle types from the superior 5th gen.
>>58561771Imagine what game could have been like...XY turned out pretty well considering what got left out, it really just needs some refining.
>>58561081too bad za couldn't fix xy's >no difficulty>no postgame>bad story>bad rivals
>>58561787Well, it's not as bad as the switch games, but I think a fuck ton of refining would be more accurate.
>>58561794I mean maybe it is all the switch release that's making more soft on it, XY feels the most capable of being a solid pokemon game for me.I played swsh recently and my experience was so miserable that I deleted the game, none of it was fun. SV just looked like such a huge mess I didn't even bother.
>>58561791>lie>lie>lie>lieevery time
>>58561782>So a downgrade from [thing maison has already]Get a better argument.>Also, I know you can't hype up those modes since that would be promoting battle types from the superior 5th gen“superior” yet 5th gen was so rushed they couldn’t even put the battle modes in the subway.
>>58561825i don't know yawnfag i see nothing but truths in that post
>>58561794Not really. XY is already better than the games preceding it.
>>58561841When in the game do you find the character in >>58561715 ?
>>58561081OKAY SO ANYWAY Yeah I agree, lowkey I hope XY’s story gets rewritten, I feel like if it was better then it’s returning characters would be more impactful.
>>58561791It had some difficulty Post game was short Story and rivals were okay
>>58561715Battle Maison. Rotation Battles. three bullets.See, I know this because I actually play the game.
>>58561866When in the game do I access the Battle Maison?
I hate how Eternal flower floette was in the game but never used in game. It even had a unique move, at least let me fight it!
>>58561871I kinda liked that if anything, made it feel more mysterious as a pokemon.
>>58561858ZA does seem like it takes place in a Z timeline
>>58561887That kinda content is cute in Gen I when it's only one thing. By Gen VI every game had like a plethora of almost completely inaccessible or unused content, which is an issue dating as far back as Gen II. Masuda's games hold shit back for later and sometimes never get around to it like Altering Cave or Azure Flute, so it just makes his era of Pokemon feel like it was intentionally holding shit back. Now we just objectively know they do ever since Dexit
>>58561543Funnily enough, they just added ACNL ost to Nintendo Music
>>58561928Based. ACNL hourly music is goated as fuck
>>58561934Yeah it's better than ACNH imo. New Leaf's songs are noticably different and more 'energetic'Plus for both games they added a feature that syncs the hourly music to your device time.
>>58561934>>58561969Really wish I could place items outside like NH, you can get really creative, but NL is just a better game.
>>58561081Yeah. The harsh truth is that XY felt incomplete because they are just average souless rushed games, especially compared to the greatness that came before it. For that reason GF moved on from XY instead of making the usual 3rd version that every single Gen got and left the shitty boring Kalos totally forgotten in their basement, until now with PLZA had the chance of doing something right but we are not in Gen 6 anymore but in Gen 9. Even when it comes to Megas most people think of ORAS and the multiverse shit instead of XY.
>>58561996i swear i've seen this exact post word for word in another thread
>>58561834So not inducing a new battle mode means it's rushed? Okay, I win.
>>58561604Ngl, I have not heard of a bigger fucking loser in my entire life. Did you cry too? Honestly I wish it was you instead of the 3ds. No joke. Kys bitch Boi.
>>58561825I'd like to do what no one else has done yet strangely and ask, "What was your first main series pokemon game?""
>>58562143because it's true and no amount of seething will ever change that
I think it's still full of plot holes. Even if it's a little better thanks to Z-A
>>58561996I wouldn't say it was soulless. The only mainline pokemon game that ever felt entirely soulless to me was SwSh. But it definitely got the short end of the stick
>>58564717Yup, xy was the last pokemon game, SM is the awkward middle child before SWSH really kick started the dark age of pokemon.
>>58562175Pokemon Yellow.
