Mineshaft Edition>I want to learn the game, where do I begin?Download PTCGL at https://tcg.pokemon.com/en-us/tcglThe game has a quick tutorial and a bunch of decent decks to get you started against other beginners or against the AI. Some of those decks are very close to meta too. You can also go to your local game store and see if people are playing Pokémon.>I know how to play, how do I make my own deck?You have a decent beginner's guide at https://www.justinbasil.com/guideThere's also the old /tcg/ guide at https://imgur.com/a/W4NkOu6After that, look up meta decks and try to reverse engineer them to see how things work.>Where to find meta decks?For big irl events, go to https://limitlesstcg.com/decksFor online events, go to https://play.limitlesstcg.com/decks?game=PTCGFor japanese events, go to https://pokecabook.com/archives/1417Previous thread: >>58663965Old /tcg/ pastebin: https://pastebin.com/Ge95YuMA
charizard beat pult? a shame, I was hoping there would be a new wave of pult hype
>finally feel like playing tcglive again>queue with the zamn>3 back to back slowkings hitting turn 2 trifrostenough live for the week
>>58684186>GLC Eventpure sovl.
>glc
I'm just getting into the TCG and im looking for a deck to buy to play at my LGS. Is this gardevoir jellicent deck a good choice? Also how do I get started on getting my first deck in TCG Live?https://play.limitlesstcg.com/tournament/68fe4bcc24b8f37ae93c8245/player/calcal206/decklist
>>58684856Garde is a very good deck right now. it can be slightly difficult to begin with not just because of the intricacies deck itself but because of things outside of it such as time management and knowing how to change your routes while playing.Personally I'd suggest Charizard. It's fairly straight-forward, easy to play/hard to truly master, has a Charizard on it and hits hard.As for your first Live deck, the game should give you a handful of decks to begin with (Or by just playing a handful of games and leveling up. I believe you get at least 1-2 decks by level 10/by playing a few rounds). They are often fairly meta-relevant decks (Like the aforementioned Charizard deck) so you could play with them right out of the gate.
>>58685082Thanks I'll check out the Charizard deck. I'm personally coming from MTG, is there anything similar to a control deck in pokemon? Also that's a very cute clefairy, clefable is my favorite pokemon.
>>58685091Oh I figured you were starting to play TCGs with Pokemon. If you come from MTG, Gardevoir may be up your alley. It's a control/midrange deck that has various tools to stop your opponent from setting up (In Frillish/Jellycent) while you're doing your thing. It plays fairly slow and is very good at making comebacks.There's also Pidgeot Control, which uses Pidgeot to search any card you may need at that precise moment from your deck each turn. It uses quite a few attackers and has various ways of winning.Marnie's Grimmsnarl is also fairly slow and control-esque. It puts 2 Froslass who will be putting damage counters passively every turn to every Pokemon with Abilities and sets you up to kill multiple guys at once with Grimmsnarl.
>>58685129>Oh I figured you were starting to play TCGs with Pokemon.Ironically I did start with pokemon back in the 90s. I think there was some trainer's league or something back then. I looked into those other two decks earlier and it seemed like Gard was the most meta of those 3 decks. I also just kinda want to play a deck woth clefairy in it. I'll probably pick up Gard and one more deck. What are the chances my LGS has all the cards I need if I want to buy from them? Is TCG Player just my best bet?
What are the odds they'll print a different Mega Gardevoir card that will be meta?
>>58685285Mega Gallade will save Mega Gardevoir
>>58685144Control decks are weird in pokemans, you usually run out of time before you can win in real life and online most people concede before the game truly begins
>>58685285Unlikely. Mega gallade will be a thing tho, they'll probably have synergy with each other instead of both being their own thing. Like how charizard x blows up the activate while y nukes the bench, both using the same energy engine
>>58685841>Control decks are weird in pokemans, you usually run out of time before you can win in real life and online most people concede before the game truly beginsNah that sounds about right. I play blue white control in magic, so I think this is the right deck for me.
>>58685929You often have to include a win con like mill to end it otherwise you go to time and just draw
Codes for my dudes
>>58686566Thanks anon. I got the bottom code.
>>58685144Ah fair enough. Most of the cards in the average Gardevoir deck should be relatively essy to get. Most of them are Bulk common/Uncommon. The only cards I could see you having problemd with would be Garde ex, Secret Box, Mew ex and Fezandipiti ex. Though I think it's worth pointing out Gardevoir ex is rotating in April. But it's like $40
is TCG Live too generous? I only started about a month ago and I think I could craft the entire meta in holos
>>58688854its offset by having a terrible UI and being unable to update using only the client.
>>58688854We used to be able to craft FAs but now they added a timer to it but yeah you can get everything so easily here. on rotation they hand out 8 decks as well
>>58688854live has spoiled me. I cannot go to another game and grind out dailies anymore its miserable.
I'll always prefer live to online for the sheer fact you get to actually play the card gameThat meta card? I can easily craft it for practically nothingThat meta card on online? I need to sweat tourneys for weeks to get enough packs to buy ONE. Or play stock exchange flipping trades as a part time job
>>58689300
horse
Interesting that calyrex and the horses only have 1 card each but the rider calyrexs have 3 cards each.
>>58690838baby spectrier was somewhat usable, but glastrier and calyrex suxfused Vs are the way to go
>Forgot about the balloon day bundles after 2nd day>Forgot to check the shop on days 3-5>Can't buy any of the ones you missedRIP me
>>58691274fuck I only got 2 and 3
Four prizers incoming
>>58691462If V-UNION weren't four-prizers neither will these
700 hp 6 prizers are just months away
>Mega lucario accelerates fighting energy for mega lucario z>Mega lucario z gets some crazy attack which costs a lotI can see it
Z Megas are able to attach energy an indefinite amount of times per turn but they always discard everything at the end of the turn
>>58691668Mega Garde Z will save Mega Garde.
>Water garchomp will rotate by the time we get mega garchomp and mega garchomp zshame
>>58691804>have 4 of these shits>won't have the opportunity to play them in a mega gyarados deck sad times
>>58684186my absol/munki/tox deck isnt performing as i hoped it wouldmaybe im skill issue?
>crustle player emotes non stop to start the game thinking he's gonna wall me>the emotes stop as I spam boss around his crustle >instant concede as my crustle tech gets ready to ko his only crustle delightful, and thank you, the reader, for enjoying my blog
>Play Festival Lead into Zoroark>List runs smooth as hell irl>Zoroark is a free matchup>Live shuffle gods decide to fuck me over>Prize 4 applin>Rod and Lana too>Quit match, go next game>Paired into the same fucker>He spams emotes>Prize check>This time all my Dipplins are prized. Four of the fucking things.Whoever did the coding for this piece of shit game needs fucking shooting
>>58692043it could be a skill issue or a deck issue. I've seen absol and tox decks before and they don't seem strong currently
Just started playing, are there any cards that prevent your opponent from using items?
>>58692804the green devil
>>58692804Satan himself
>>58692818BEAST
>thumpalanchewhat the fuck
it's funny how one of the most impactful cards in phantasmal so far was in a starter deck. also I'm surprised gardevoir whiffed another regional but I guess there were too many zards at stuttgart.
>>58694732Which card
>>58694744Mega Diancie
>>58694732I'm pretty sure Inteleon and Gengar would have also been good if they released alongside chilling reign instead of being delayed two sets.
>>58694732Turns out having an infinite energy accelerator that also gives you +60 free dmg is kinda broken on any attacker that can use it..
>>58695210Is this Tox or Garde
>>58695441Gardy of course. Tox is still limited to 1 or 2 extra energy depending on your set up. With 1 tox you can't even roaring moon ohko something outta nowhere without some additional support Also with tox you need a method to shuffle the energy back in and hope you don't draw it too, while gardy can forever reuse the same energy without extra steps
>>58695460>foreverjust a few months more,we are almost there
>Had a bad time with a player shuffling EVERY. SINGLE. DAMN. TIME he searched, obviously to stall for time.>I.e: Nest ball, search, shuffle, Ultra ball, search, shuffle (If it was search > Shuffle > DRAW > Search it'd be fine).>Go to judge a few days later to ask for advice on how to deal with this in the future>He justified this action by saying that the cards all say "to shuffle the deck" so it's justified>Somehow I can't force my opponents to throw a coin when they use cards that say "throw a coin" though.Is this real? Do I really have no argument and the judge is right? Or is the judge biased towards the cheater?
>>58695715Shuffling should be done when you need to draw a card or at the end of your turn if you didn't draw. I don't care what the judge says. Throwing a coin I get. If the coin falls on its edge and dents my card, I'm gonna be mad. A die is fine.
>>58695748Oh I don't care about throwing coins. It was an example to explain why I thought the "well the card says to do x so he's justified in doing it" argument didn't hold. Players almost never do this and instead do another more convenient action.
>>58695715It's not cheating, it's malicious compliance. The guy is an asshole, but the judge is technically correct. Just keep an eye on players like that. By constantly straddling the edge of rules, they often tend to tip into doing something you can actually call a judge for.
>>58695715He's technically correct, judge too. It's mostly an experienced player thing not shuffling if you know you're gonna use another search straight after. Like keeping your deck open after using an arven to grab a poffin, or just pulling the 2 basics during your arven search. Dice and coins are essentially the same thing, if anything dice are harder to rig by practicing your flips
>>58695715As long as he uses official, translucent Pokemon-branded dice instead of a coin, it's 100% legal. If he tries to use anything else like a damage counter dice or from another TCG, you can call a judge.
>>58695715It’s more complex than saying “well I’m just following the card text.” The rule book states that players have 15 seconds per action, but in practice judges have much more freedom in interpreting a players actions. As a judge I would have said something if I were watching the match. Even if they are following the rules, that doesn’t mean they aren’t slow playing.
do i play meme rotom or the zam to my christmas cup?
>>Teras in J regulation240 for 3 isn't the worst on a basic. Once regular miraidon rotates I can see it sometimes being used for electric decks
But why
>>58697240It's from the battle deck which is a mish mash of mechanics. We're probably getting Larry's trainer pokemon in it too based on the merch
>>58696873Would you happen to have a link to thw rulebook. I'd live to read it
Cynthia's Garchomp EX with- Munkidori- Anti meta pokemons like toedscruel and psyduckWhat do?
>>58697500I like to run a 1-1 Toedscruel line to bully Dengo and MegaZard players.
>>58697670You play Garchomp? Can you share your decklist? I'm having trouble with mine, bad hands mean gg most of the time
>>58697677I'm by no means a regular player so cross-reference with other decks. >bad hands mean gg most of the timeI think that's just a hazard of playing this deck I'm afraid.Pokémon: 131 Toedscruel PAR 17 PH1 Cynthia's Gible SVALT 1761 Cynthia's Gabite SVALT 1772 Cynthia's Roserade DRI 1842 Cynthia's Gabite DRI 103 PH1 Cynthia's Spiritomb DRI 129 PH2 Cynthia's Garchomp ex DRI 2321 Cynthia's Gible DRI 1022 Cynthia's Gible DRI 102 PH2 Cynthia's Roselia DRI 7 PH1 Cynthia's Gabite DRI 1031 Toedscool PAR 161 Cynthia's Garchomp ex PR-SV 204Trainer: 201 Technical Machine: Evolution PAR 1782 Cynthia's Power Weight DRI 162 PH1 Super Rod PAL 1882 Fighting Gong MEG 1681 Air Balloon MEG 1661 Counter Catcher PAR 1602 Forest of Vitality MEG 1171 Ultra Ball SVI 1961 Switch SVI 1941 Rare Candy SVI 1911 Night Stretcher SFA 611 Unfair Stamp TWM 1654 Buddy-Buddy Poffin TEF 1444 Arven PAF 2351 Iono PAL 2691 Iono PAF 2374 Lillie's Determination MEG 1841 Cynthia's Power Weight DRI 1624 Premium Power Pro MEG 1742 Boss's Orders PAL 172Energy: 16 Basic {F} Energy SVE 14Total Cards: 60
>>58696948zam with lt surge so your opponent can gift you 4 cards
>Playing Dragupult at the international>I attack, KO 2 mons at once>My opponent is choosing a new active>Time is called while my opponent is choosing a new active.>HeadJudge rules that my opponent is turn 1 (not turn 0) because time was called during my turn when he was choosing an active, Giving us a Draw>Had I gotten an extra turn, I would have won.Is this ruling really correct? Or was my judge incompetent?
>>58697392NTA but here u gohttps://www.pokemon.com/static-assets/content-assets/cms2/pdf/play-pokemon/rules/play-pokemon-tcg-tournament-handbook-en.pdf
win 3 games on livenext 2 games i hard brick and followed by 1 where my opponent restarts for 1 on a dead hand, gets an iono and then gets everything perfectly while with 5 cards in deck, i lunatone for 3, miss my 3rd boss' orders aka my only way to win at that point and then flip tails on cheatape confusion anywaylive should just instantly determine the match before you even draw a card and just save you having to waste your time actually clicking on things when nothing you do matters
[F][C] Deep Brown Fangs: 50+ damage. If 1 of your Pokemon was Knocked Out by damage from an attack during your opponent's last turn, this attack does 120 more damage.Die mega kanga
>>58699277fuck you too, cunt
Alakazam is fun.
>>58699277But Kanga never KO anything
>>58697898Huh i forgot MAJOR BOB i have 2x bills transfer but its big gamblinga price or +3 cards seems better unless bill hits me 4 or more
I have been wanting to try and play the TCG for a bit now, but sadly, the desktop version just doesn't workIt always says my email is invalidI've uninstalled and reinstalled the software, tried different emails from different providers, and tried making an account on the website first but all give errorsThe fuck
>>58701176Heard other anons post they had trouble trying to make a pokemon account too. Some got through to it but I'm not sure how they did it. Could try a vpn/proxy while making it or a different browser idk? It seems pretty buggy in general, I can't even get verification email to send so I change my password on my alt account.
>>58701656guess ill stick to pocket then
>>58701627I don't know why they keep going back to this idea since there's even one like this in the format right now in Tyme (with 4 cards) and there used to be a few Blaine ones. Maybe they just think it's funny.
>>58701919>Maybe they just think it's funny.It is
>>58701989I did see a video where a Chandelure deck played Tyme and got the opponent to draw more cards. That was pretty funny.
>>58702913Looks the same as 3 expansions ago. grim
>>58702913idk seems like garde downplayer cope
>>58703267Japan plays best of ones, games that don't finish end in a double game loss. They definitely favor faster decks, which is a big reason why decks like Bolt is always more popular there than in the west. Garde is just a slower deck.
>>58700386It is but it needs another attacker and some conteol elements to keep pace with faster decks.
>>58703454Mega alakazam any day surely they design it to work with the same archetype haha
some random SV booster codes for whoever wants them
>>58703281>best of one in a game where you lose on setup half of the timeno wonder they have such a fucked perception of how to play the gamethen again they saw nothing was wrong with their "grand finals" back in late gen 7 being literally ended on the first turn
>>58704942Its going to be mega chimecho
https://youtu.be/CJtT09kDWzwChampions League Aichi Day 2 stream up.
>>58706074I assume we'll get card reveals at the end of this? Since we don't really know what the next JP set is still. The recent reveals are the old battledeck, not the actual next set.
>>58706277Japan's first set of the year is usually around January 20. It's too soon to reveal it. Expect more cards from start-deck-100 which should have a full reveal next week.
Sirnight wins again
https://youtu.be/cFEcnjcZmOQPart 2
New cards are ass don’t bother
just another filler set...
You wanted lusamine boss orders? Sorry here's another old fart
>>58706986We're not gonna get these until rotation anyway, most are J regulation. At least rotation will change the meta if all these filler sets wont
>>58706987FUCK
Ability: Envious ScentOnce during your turn, you may heal 30 damage from each of your Pokemon.[G][G][C] Powder Bloom: 160 damage. Your opponent's Active Pokemon is now Poisoned and Asleep.Looks fine for me
Idk why i expected it to be good.>Mega Audino ex - Colorless - HP270Basic Pokemon>[C] Kaleidowaltz: Flip 3 coins. For each heads, search your deck for 2 Basic Energy cards and attach them to your Pokemon in any way you like. Then, shuffle your deck.>[C][C][C] Ear Force: 20+ damage. This attack does 80 more damage for each Energy attached to your opponent's Active Pokemon.
>>58707057>Kanga gets a good ability>and 200 baseline for 3 energy>This is 20 baseline and x80 conditionallmao. they could've at least made it similar to the OG one that one worlds..
>>58706987how the fuck is he the boss and bad guy(in the tcg sense)? we didn't even get rose or piers but we do get mr favors for everyone
>>58707224Would've been better to just get older lysandre.
>>58707057This has a chance to be pretty good as your post-rotation turbo-energize. Depends on how many decks are hitting 270 turn 2 going first.No penny/turo could make it a liability though.
>>58707057mega audino was forever the one mega evolution that even the reveal video for it back in ORAS couldn't bring itself to give a single shit about
>>58706987>>58707224Lusamine and Rose aren't mafia bosses, Corbeau leads a shady organization so he fits the theme (even if ultimately does everything for good)
Print it again
>>58707966>Corbeau leads a shady organization so he fits the theme (even if ultimately does everything for good)That's lusamines whole deal tooEven tho she went crazy that was just on her end, it didn't affect anyone
>>58707224>>58707966>>58708057They're capitalizing on fujos/yumes, simple as
>>58707980This one is really the biggest 'what were they thinking card?' outside of ADP. in the same format as Pal Pad and (I think?) VS Seeker of all things, absolutely degenerate. They should've just printed Karen from the start to counter that fucking Night March shit.
>>58708762the card was perfectly fine if not for infinite draw power from shaymin and a couple of absolutely broken coin flip cards that were no longer risks given you were going to play each a dozen times a game
>>58707980I liked it, even if toad reset the game with it, you got your resources back too so vsing control was actually enjoyable. I get why it was banned tho
>>58708812If you think having an infinite deck is remotely acceptable, let alone perfectly fine, then I don't know what to tell you. It's a card that might be acceptable in the wacky worlds balancing of Magic but not in Pokemon.
>>58708894you don't have to tell me anything, I played with the card when it released and it was not a problem until roaring skies released
bros what do I play in this format? I keep on facing the zard deck that won stuttgart, gardy or grimmsnarl. I really like playing something jank.
>>58709032Just use this time playing all the fun decks that will be lost to rotation in march/aprilMega dream isn't even changing the meta so it's gonna remain the same, so best to just play the decks that wont be around for much longer
>>58709052Ascended heroes will change up the meta a bit with the "search for drakloak" item.
>>58709103>J We might not get this until rotation. I don't recall us getting regulation marks before the rotation set
>>58709160if we are getting mega charizard Y i don't see why other J cards won't be added
>>58709181Huh I thought charizard was I. Guess we might see some meta changes momentary before rotation. Depends if the rest of the 100 deck has other impactful cards, or if the rest is filler garbage like audino
>>58707049do we have any other erika mons? id be so happy if i could play oddishthe belossom meganium gamble isnt fun to me
>playing Lopunny against Alakazam on live>keep making idiotic misplays in my 10 second turns>his turns take ages for him to draw 15 cards>keeps getting Iono'd 3 times in a row before reaching a hand big enough to KO my bunniesFunniest match i ever won
>>58709392Erika's Tangela - Grass - HP80Basic PokemonAbility: Colorful RiotYou may use this Ability once during your turn. Search your deck for an Erika's Pokemon, reveal it, and put it into your hand. Then, shuffle your deck.[G][C] Bind: 30 damage. Flip a coin. If heads, your opponent's Active Pokemon is now Paralyzed.Weakness: Fire (x2)Resistance: noneRetreat: 2Erika's Victreebel - Grass - HP150Stage 2 - Evolves from Erika's Weepinbell[G][C] Mysterious Rondo: 40x damage. This attack does 40 damage for each Erika's Pokemon you have in play.[G][G][C] Solarbeam: 130 damage.Weakness: Fire (x2)Resistance: noneRetreat: 3Tangela instantly populates your bench and can fetch Victreebel every turn, but Vileplume/Victreebel are just bad.
>genome hacking burning darkness + munkis for ko>genome hacking burning darkness for game :)god I love gardevoir I'm gonna be so sad next year
>>58709406>Erika's Victreebel >instead Mega VictreebelWhat's the point? I get that she and Victreebel were one of the original Owner Pokémon back when the mechanic was introduced
>>58709634Megas are their own thing, doubt they want to bundle them with trainers pokemon too. Also you can't evolve from regular mons to trainers pokemon and reverse, that makes trainers pokemon objectively worse Zoroark would be t0 if it could evolve into all those other ones too
>>58709406>40x what a shame
desu I'm always happy to see it when my opponent benches a duskullit means they're probably retarded and will throw the game at some point because they've learnt that they can play badly and still win at least half of the time because dusknoir carries them anyway>>58709597yeah playing the cheat deck will do that for youat some point i'll actually sit down and play garde just so i can understand how people actually manage to lose with it outside of bricking
What's the sexiest male Trainer card?
>>58695715are you retarded? any time you search you have to shuffle. guess this is your first time ever playing a tcg lol.
>>58711579it's fine to do multiple searches at once before shuffling, it saves time. this is even mentioned on tpc's site.
>Ascended Heroes: January 30>Perfect Order: March 27Can you handle another 3.5 months of this format?
>>58712478Gonna play the decks that are leaving like chien pao. Fuuck sweating the ladder on gardy or gholdengo
>20 packs for 200 whateversp good
>>58712478Perfect Order is actually a pretty cool name for a set
>>58712478I WILL make a rotom meme deck i also just spent 200 shekels to bling out my zam and typhlosion deck
>>58713142I regret spending money on typhlosion, im on a loss streak of 5 and my last loss was against a starter mega gengarim going to vomit
>>58711356
Anyone know if there's been any recent headway in getting the game to work on Linux (CachyOS)?I've tried a few times and sometimes it gets error 15, sometimes language select loop, and most recently asking to sign in on browser infinitely
>>58713655PRÖÖÖÖÖÖHHH :DDDDDD
This is a seductive pose, right? It's not just me?
>>58714044Of course not, anon, there's nothing wrong with Jesus Christ it's a fucking bird get a grip.
>>58714044Stop being a degen coomer and touch grass, retard
>>58714044next you'll say bonsly is cute or some fucked up shit
I just got my advanced judge certification :)
>>58715756Now remember to give incorrect rulings on cornerstone and latias!
>>58715756whats the advanced judge opinion on >>58695715 ?
>>58715810?
>>58715756grats anon!
>>58715702Not the best example; for sixteen years the only bonsly card was it putting its hole on full display.
>>58715902It's a joke because a lot of people talk about how judges mess up cornerstoneAnd recently on stream the judges didn't catch latias and they let them discard the energy to retreat, which let them use night stretcher to get it for dragapult. That had to scrap that game it was beyond scuffed
>>58692043Absol is basically the most overrated card in the set
Just had a close game with zam against pult, he ofc hit candy pult off a 3 iono draw bit i mamaged to get back, ko'd the pult, stalled his 2. pult and got the final piece(candy zam) and won at 1v1 prize remaininggod bless enhanced hammer, wonder patch and my nigga enriching + hilda
would we have won if it was pokemon tcg vs yugioh tcg? using a mix of rules, or maybe no rules at all?
I'm learning to play Garde/JelliI lose every fucking matchWhat the fuck are you even supposed to do against Mega Absol box?
God damn I love the art on this card.
>>58720300https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mLyisMJ5q1c
>>58717630HELP
>>58717630mew can kill bravery charm absol with 2 munkis
>>58715756When's the diamond and pearl certification?
can someone explain to me how i win against dengo with pultnoir. matchup makes no sense, i feel like they always have it and are able to play through any number of things. how should i be spreading damage and using ghosts?
>>58722648put charizards in your deck :)
>>58698061Judge is technically right, your opponent's turn starts with them drawing for turn, but any reasonable judge will rule that your opp is turn 0 lol
>>58698061You should really open a ticket. Especially if this was at an international.t. judge
Looking for a faster deck after getting giga raped by a lopunny kangaskan dusknoir deckRaging Bolt seems pretty fast? Any other suggestions? Also needs to not be dying next format
>>58723663apples is pretty fast to KO if you manage to get everything first turn, that's the problem though, its consistency
>>58723663Isn't Raging Bolt rotating? What do you play?
>>58723692Nah raging bolt is fine. I'm playing cynthia's garchomp, not looking to ditch it entirely but it's pretty fuckin slow so I'm just looking for some variety
>>58723711Sada’s is rotating, raging bolt is going to be on its deathbed.
>>58723711I also play Garchomp but been trying out Ceruledge, I also like M Sharpedo EX as a walmart Garchomp, same weakness and everythingNo answer for what to do against every other deck being faster, by the time I get a Garchomp out it's already 1-2 prizes down I use stuff to counter the meta decks but still not good enough, that's just the way Garchomp is right now but we're not rotating anytime soon
>>58723724oh shit you right. alright looking elsewhere then>>58723727I'm still going to play the deck I'm just looking for a change of pace>>58723685you talking about festival lead? I was actually playing that before, it seems like a strictly worse version of garchomp
speaking of garchomp, I think mega lucario is going to be the move next format. since garchomp has no retreat cost, I want to run an air balloon on the lucario to accelerate energy and swap out every turn for the big attack on garchomp
>>58723744not festival lead, I meant hydrapple ex sorry. Some lists have the festival lead dipplin but I personally use the anti-basics dipplin.
>>58723766M Sharpedo plays more like Garchomp
>Mega meganium, feraligatr and emboar are promo cardsRIP they're gonna be shitEspecially sucky for meganium since it has a top tier 1 prizer ability to work with it
>>58723663Play Mega Lucario and put that bunny bitch in its place. For good measure anyone who benches Kanga against you is cruising for a bruising.
>>58725540I'm 100% running mega lucario in the garchomp deck. TM evolution is gone so I have to have something else to speed up the curve
>>58725629consider removing chomp and making it the lucario deck
Remember no turo or penny after rotation so those megas are gonna have to remove their energy with wally to heal now
>>58726177Is that a problem?
>>58726212Wally healing means it remains a liability in play now for your opponent to ko / hit it again. While now you can turo your sharpedo/lucario and keep your board 1 prizers until you evolve it back up the following turn
>No turo to get around retreat locks>No switch because item lock>No TM evo because item lock>No flexible munkidori because no luminous energyI HATE BUDEW REPRINT TMS
LOL
>>58724426[W][W][C] Killer Crunch: ??? damage. If your opponent's Active Pokemon has damage counters on it, this attack does ??? more damage.>Gatr got absolute trashIt's not looking good for meganium
>>58726470It does 200 base dmg so unless that's a +130 or more modifier this is useless It probably is useless since water has no acceleration post rotation
>>58726470they tried, but it still looks absolutely trashso the card being trash on top is just right
>>58726490>no acceleration post rotation N with glass trumpet is a universal acceleration, but has no synergy with any deck besides tera box.
>>58684186>Gardevoir is now running latiasWtf why?https://limitlesstcg.com/decks/list/22581
>>58728244Turn 1 tem lock is strong. Block absol from using their trolley.Gardevoir doesn't run any arven anymore, so they can't just search out an air balloon. Latias gives you 8-9 outs to push Frillish into the active. I'm sure people have tested and found that it wins more than including a budew.
>>58728317Yeah but what if you get a bad starting hand, how are you supposed to deal with that
>>58728355then you have an active latias and retreat it, no big deal
>>58728399Isn't it better to get Secret Box as soon as possible?
>>58728407It sure is better to have a good starting hand than a bad one.
>>58728407Okay, let me replace 4 Lillie for 4 Arven so that I can search out secret box to find a nest ball and a big charm turn 1.This build doesn't have good targets to fetch with arven/secret box on turn 1.
>Go to local community group chat>I don't interact much. At best I go "Mew best deck" or some variant of it and move on.>Play for couple of months and retire and play again later>Now I get ridiculized, hated and made fun from what appears to be out of nowhere from many folks, including chat admins I don't to often>Whenever I ask, nobody really replies so I can just assume it's squizosWhy is the TCG community so rude and toxic, bros? I just want to share my enjoyment of the game, even if I'm not particularly good.
>>58728427so what's the plan here?
>>58728492In a perfect world, you turn 2 candy Garde or get Jellicent and run your opponent over. I went like 5-15 when I tried a variant on ptcgl, so I can't give any advice.
>>58728481>onlinethere is your problem bro, go to your local store/league and play therepeople that leave their caves are usually better adjusted sociallyi have like 3 other uncs at my place and we always have a great time, even when we have like 7 6yo rn
>>58728503I'm trying this one out with 1 Arven instead of Prof Research and I just get the worst hands ever and nothing to do about it, gotta put Mew sacrifice a basic and get Fez to even try to get something going
>>58728317It's still flabbergasting to me how budew fell off the meta ever since lillie released. Like, the meta hasn't changed that much since then.
>>58728545Dawn helped get around item lock as a much better brock. Others like dengo can use solrock and pult can use moltres to clean up early budews Budew will return once rotation hits because TM evo rotates as well as turo, so you can boss budew something and it's pretty much stuck. There's no arven or town store to fetch balloon easily anymore either.
>>58728576The rotation is looking like shit right now, everything will be horrible
>>58728603At least team rocket will rise from the ashes.
>>58728427Still don't get this, are you supposed to rely on luck? Garde before with like 2 Boss' orders and counter catcher and 2-3 Arvens seemed to play better but now everybody is doing this meme
>>58728576>wont everyone just start playing more jet>jet is G tooohhhh....
sudowoodo every deck lol
>>58728743Maractus is better. Ylvetal too for that purpose.
>>58707520he isn't even a villain anymore though, corbeau at the very least fits into the shady organisation archetype
Is this product coming to the west as is?
>>58729159Likely not.
>>58729159Good joke anon, good joke.
>>58729159it'll be in our Ascended Heroes set
noooo don't go...
60 recoil. Technically more efficient than mega zard and has baby emboar, but fire also has oricorio for acceleration.
+50x grass attachedHits like a truck, but are you really setting up 3 stage 2s? (Venusaur, Meganium, Mega Meganium)
>>58726470>>58726490Modifier is plus 200. Get your hero's capes ready.
>>58730038>>58730041Tragic..hopefully they get proper mega ex later on >meowscarada only got 1 exits over
I think this was a prior reveal>Attach 2 water from discard to this pokemon>Discard 2 energy, opponent's active is paralyzed
>>58730044>400Yeah they're not gonna print any good water acceleration for a while then lol..
bros what the fuck he's ass
>>58730050Counter gain is still legal. Poke an ex with budew then kill it with your two attachment or neo-upper gator when you go behind on prizes.
>>58730065If only it were 2 colorless you could use triple + water like tera greninja does. but 2 water really kills all viability for it until we get a new acceleration engine..
>If this pokemon is on the bench, once per turn, you may attach an energy from your hand to your active Larry's pokemon>draw 2, sleep to self
>If poisoned or burned, +100>discard 2 energy, snipe for 50Not good, maybe braviary is better?
>retreat lock>30 recoilIt is not better.
>draw 2>30 recoil Filler ex. 200hp is pathetic in the 2026 season.
>Flip a coin for each energy attached, 80x headsMeme deck alert.
Looking through these new cards I'm genuinely not seeing anything viable..
It's nearly time. We've waited and waited. Her reckoning will be upon us soon.
>flip coin, paralyze if heads>+80 if "spiked rolling" used on previous turnAt least Zangoose is somehow not the most pathetic ex in the set.
>50 snipe>discard random card from opponent's handmore filler
>>58730041Believe in the trees
>Fighting/Psychic dual type>If opponent has 2 or less prizes, +100 damageBad attack cost, should have been CCC to even consider reading the card
>Flip until tails, +100 for each headsVoltorb?
>While introducing your favorite Pokemon to your opponent, draw three cards from your deck. If your opponent feels that you like them, they can say "I like it!"It has a regulation mark, so I guess it is legal?
>>58730044A instakill, nice.
>>58730131Are you forced to actually reply if your opponent pulls one of these cards?
>>58730135It's a DPL if you don't reply.
>>58730135SAT IT
>>58730131Where'd you find that one? I can't find it under 100 collection and this doesn't have a filter for regulation marks
>>58730146I have a shitty script that I run that iterates through every single page looking for valid cards. I didn't find any prize pack promos this time.Direct linkhttps://www.pokemon-card.com/card-search/details.php/card/49605/regu/XY
>>58730156Ah it was linked under another collectionbut damn this sets a bust. >complete reprint set + pack filler>like every other ace spec reprinted except secret boxI laughed. It's gotta be on purpose at this point
>>58730163It's the second reprint set this year, a month after the last one.These are also blind box decks, it would be cancer to try and pull a 1/100 deck that has a good new ex. At least every single one includes the new meta card.
>>58730179This'll probably get printed in the next regular set too because it's such a staple. Just feels like an early teaser with it more than anything.Can see why the exs are filler then if it's random boxes, just gonna suck for our jan ascended heroes set. Hopefully they dump them all in there at once, instead of padding out sets for the entire year and ruining multiple sets like they did with these
the charmander and charmeleon art is cute, at least
>>58730041I feel like this is enough of an upgrade to meganium, you would just run this in a 2-2 split with baby and some Teal masks. No need to run Venusaur, it doesn't bring anything. Teal, e switch, manual attach, you're already hitting 270 if you don't have any energy attached some other way. I think Grass is the big winner, atleast after rotation.
>>58730250>Item locks and bricks your deckTMs are gone and big items like SER, vessel are too. No arven either to fetch your e switches. Even before talking about how zard will fry it once the other uncapped attackers dengo/bolt rotate, zard is the only mega HP one shotter left. And feraligatr too I suppose but that has no support as of now to theorycraft with The format is looking far more pokemon reliant than trainers, so venu does save it from losing all that
Oh shit, was updating my rotation image and it turns out they updated judge regulation. It's going to live through rotation now. Meaning we still have hand disruption after iono leaves
I was looking up how the current feraligatr gets its two energy into play. Crispin or Blaziken-ex.I forgot that Blaziken-ex was a card that exists as an energy accelerator.
>>58730119Hey, it'll be decent with Reversal Energy :^)
>>58730288It was his time...
>>58730090Yeah I remember this fucker>playing IRL at a Challenge>have 5 energy attached>just need 1 head to KO Fug gx for the win>all 5 dice rolled ended up tails (all 5 dice rolled 5)>lost the gamefuck that shit
I don't see the point in this one>but you can use it with the acceleration emboarit's a fire mega, you can use it with oricorio that reminds me, basic mega heatran + oricorio should become a thing eventually. it's design screams fire type instead of metal
>>58730250Mega Meganium could be a 1-of in hydrapple. Like you said, it hits 270 for only 2 energy on the board. In the endgame, you probably could pull off 2 hydrapple+e.switch from ogerpon+manual attach for 470 damage.
>>58730135>Judge, my opponent didn't complete the effect on this card!
>>58730090>>58731592>>58732153I miss this fucker. Too bad most double colorless were banned in GLC, but expanded is still nice.
Is budew supposed to stop tools like evolution or turbo energize?
>>58732995no
>>58733002my game on live was bugged then
>>58733073Was league hq stadium in play? It makes energy needs +1 more
>>58730090>>58731592>>58732707we love gambling
>>58730135Clearly that depends on if you think your opponent is lying or telling the truth about who their favorite pokemon is since it states.>If your opponent feels that you like them, they can say "I like it!"
>>58730048the guaranteed paralysis attack sounds good but I can't think of a way to keep getting energy onto regice. powerglass maybe?
currently at 1778 elo love how 90% of matches are charizard and I cannot determine my own fate because they see any 3-5 cards they want every turn and can fix the prize trade no matter how you approach it :)
Maybe rocket's watchtower is the play with all these zards.
>entire update on tuesday is budew focused
>>58733211no
>>58733220this + meganium + ponpon + energy switch?
>>58733470Rockets watch tower is your friend.
>>58734001Bellossom is already outclassed as a grass coin flipper. Also would rotate earlier than Brambleghast.Grass doesn't need a coin flipper. They have other more efficient attackers>regigigas - 330 for 4 energy>bulu - 220 for 4 energy>teal mask ex - guaranteed 60 per energy under meganium, compared to a flipper's average of 80/90 per energy
>>58735221I've been playing excusively hydrapple + ogerpon except for a fez and budew. With meganium so much more options can be added to the deck, but it feels more like a grassbox if I start adding stuff than an apples deck. I mean it doesn't sound bad, but I'd reduce hydrapple to maybe 1 or 2, include bramble for late game shenanigans, and probably a toed or two
surging sparks codes
2 Destined Rivals and 1 JT
>>58735677I gold jet energy, kecleon IR and headset ace spec, ty anon
>>58735703You had better luck than I did, I just got Appletun 211 and a Megaton Blower. I really wanted the Kek or Slakoth. Anyway, have some more, 4 Phantasmal Flames. These are the last from me.
>>58735760that sucks bro, you might as well claim the rest kek. I only redeemed the top right 4 of the ss codes, I'll leave the rest to others
>>58735561i want to play grass more but ogerkek being such a liability at only 210 hp sucks
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