>>58936370
The moment they decided to remake the original Red and Green a third time and gave us Pokemon Yellow.

>>58936370
When they stopped using sprites.

the jump to 3D and international releases in XY marked a noticable shift in the approach and direction of the company which continues to plague the series to this day
the most obvious tell of this is madusa's own blog where he stops posting his regular thought and exclusively makes corporate marketing posts the moment gen 6 starts to come into play

>>58936370
when Ohmori took over as director

>>58936370
Mosslax is literally just a regular Snorlax covered in moss, not a separate form.

>>58936370
>a mushroom and a jellyfish have similar environmental pressures

>>58936370
The fairy type.

>>58936370
ORAS, they started multiverse/marvel plot bullshit

XY
>fairy type
>generational stupid gimmick that it has nothing to do with pokemon
>games went from really easy to fucking braindead
>no postgame
>tiniest dex
>heavy Kanto pandering

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>>58936370
they jumped the shark when they shifted focus away from raising your pokemon.
in the old games getting a strong pokemon felt like a little quest you were undergoing, finding it, leveling it up, maybe EV training it, getting the right moveset, etc. I don't care about competitive but having a battle tower ready team genuinely felt like a big accomplishment.
These days though they've qol'd the entire quest away, you can have a battle tower ready team in an hour, a pokemon that felt like a trophy to own in gen 3 or 4 can now be printed en masse in an hour with all the qol in the newer games.
They've done it with shiny hunting now too, made it so braindead easy people are filling boxes with shinies in a weekend, something that would've been unthinkable as recently as SwSh.

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>>58936388
You had to straw grasp this hard for a reason to screech about XY and you're STILL wrong kek

>>58936428
>>fairy type
improvement
>>generational stupid gimmick that it has nothing to do with pokemon
new pokemon have nothing to do with pokemon?
>>games went from really easy to fucking braindead
the games after XY are harder than the games before it though
>>no postgame
this is just a lie
>>tiniest dex
this is just a lie
>>heavy Kanto pandering
I'm sorry you're upset that pokemon are in a pokemon game

>>58936370
mega evolution screamed "we dont know what to do with this franchise anymore"

>>58936370
Probably when they added ice cream, trash bags, and gears as Pokemon and 2/3 of those having literal copy/pasted designs as their evolutions.

>>58936428
>XY
>tiniest dex
?????????

>>58936370
Probably when they added magnets, sludge and balls as Pokemon and 2/3 of those having literal copy/pasted designs as their evolutions.

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>>58936370
triple battles screamed "we dont know what to do with this franchise anymore"

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>>58936468
abstract monsters are more believable than taking literal objects and slapping eyes onto them

>and 2/3 of those having literal copy/pasted designs as their evolutions
none of them have literal copy/pasting going on in their sprites. Nice try at parroting though, maybe you'll get it better next time.

>>58936370
When the regions moved away from being Japanese

>>58936493
Yea man, magnetmite and voltorb are leagues above klink, also
>what is seel to dewgong
>what is nidoran to nidorino/a
>what is diglet to digtrio
>what is voltorb to electrode
>what is mankey to primeape

>>58936493
>taking literal objects and slapping eyes onto them
kanto literally does this too lol

>>58936502
>Yea man, magnetmite and voltorb are leagues above klink
Yes, because they look like monsters
If Magnemite was designed in gen 5 it would just be a literal horseshoe shaped magnet with eyes slapped on it
>proceeds to list more designs that aren't copy/pasted
KEK you're desperate

>>58936370
gen 2

>>58936428
>>generational stupid gimmick
the thing is, at the time it wasn't really a generational gimmick (assuming you're referring to megas), people just assumed it was a new mechanic that would be a staple of the series going forward. and I honestly kind of doubt Gamefreak knew it would become a generational thing either, hence why it was still in SM. it feels like it was meant to have been a permanent mechanic but Ohmori or somebody just decided they didn't want to keep it going and would rather experiment with other gimmicks.

I feel like in general it's easy to point at XY as where everything went wrong, and it certainly did make a lot of missteps. but I don't think it was a point of no return for the series. at the time, even though I was disappointed with a lot of aspects of the game, I still had the feeling the series could turn it back around, and even looking back I still think they could have salvaged the trajectory of the series at that point. I think it was at some point between XY and SWSH where they really doubled down on the bad decisions made during XY and it became truly unsalvageable. maybe around ORAS or SM. basically, around the time Masuda handed direction off to Ohmori.

>>58936555
It felt like they weren't going to introduce new megas at all after Gen 6. Just let a few Pokemon have them before realising it was better to just ditch the mechanic.

>>58936555
>but Ohmori or somebody just decided they didn't want to keep it going and would rather experiment with other gimmicks.
it's actually the result of autistic internal policies at gamefreak, they have this idea that they can't bring a mechanic back unless they can do something to "surprise" the player with it - as said in an interview during gen 8 where their example was they could only bring back the bike for SwSh due to adding the ability for it to ride on water. Yes, it's fucking dumb, and the reason megas came back for ZA is more than likely because of the real time combat and transformations making megas feel "new"

>>58936370
>Jumping the shark" describes the moment a TV show, brand, or creative work passes its peak, relying on gimmicks to maintain popularity, signifying an inevitable decline in quality
Gen 3, 5, and 7

>>58936575
gen 5 is literally the least gimmicky gen, all it really had were rotation/triple battles which barely even get used and you can go an entire playthrough without ever experiencing

>>58936578
Least gimmicky is Gen 4

>>58936581
I'd argue location based evos which forced every following region to include areas specifically for the sake of them and was never really expanded on (outside of alola with crabominable) makes it guilty but fair

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>>58936514
>according to a genwunner these are totally unique designs that are totally not recycled.

>>58936574
ok so, what was surprising about megas in ZA?

>>58936587
I don’t really count evos because we get wacky evo methods every gen. That’s not really a gimmick, it’s par for the course.

>>58936588
>>according to a genwunner these are totally unique designs
The genwunner would be correct, yes.

>>58936578
gen 5s "gimmick" was the brand new pokedex where you couldn't use old mons, arguably the most controversial of all

>>58936590
did you read the whole post you responded to?

>>58936493
that looks more creative

Black&white, but nobody's ready for that conversation.

>>58936493
The thing is I actually like Klinklang, the middle stage is redundant.

>>58936691
nope, my bad.

I want to say XY because of 3D and its consequences, but I like megaevos and Ash-Greninja came out in gen 7.

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>>58936823
>3D and its consequences
Yeah, the consequences of giving the Pokemon actual animations, having trainer customization, having a dynamic camera, having diagonal and vertical movement, and having overworld encounters almost fucking killed the series.

>Unova Derangement Syndrome

>>58936370
When they decided that this humble bug catching game needed to have an anime and card game. If it had stayed a video game none of this shit would have happened.

>>58936370
May 2016

>>58936845
all of it ugly slop for a generations of brainless pig-like infants with no sense of quality or context

>>58936868
I don’t think someone who defends incorrectly scaled sprites with rushed tween animations that look worse than GBA games should be insulting “brainless pig-like infants with no sense of quality or context”.

>>58936452
hi yawnfag

>>58936855
checked also qrd

>>58936428
>dragonfags still seething
Get over it

The only correct answer is Gen 3.
Gen 1 made the world exist, and Gen 2 built on it.
Gens 1 and 2 were grounded, they were basically real-world Japan except with magical creatures. They were homely, they were a world first and a video game second.
Gen 3 is the gen that standardized everything, which was bound to happen at some point, but with it came the whole "criminal organization harnesses the power of the Legendary Pokemon in an attempt to accomplish some kind of planet-scale goal" trope that turned Pokemon from a very grounded franchise to this overly-grand, more "standard JRPG" sort of series. Now, this isn't necessarily a bad thing, I love the gen 3 and 4 games as much as the next guy, but if I wanted to play a standard JRPG, I'd boot up my SNES and play Chrono Trigger or Final Fantasy 6 or Terranigma or Lufia 2 or something along those lines. All of which are phenomenal games, but I play Pokemon to go on a wacky little adventure with my magical creature companions and challenge the league. I find the criminal organization sideplots sans Team Rocket to just be a bit needless, and not really enjoyable enough to warrant them being there.
So yeah, Gen 3 is the gen that jumped the shark and shifted the trajectory of the series away from the more grounded-yet-magical world we once had, for better or for worse.

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>>58936370
Gen 3. I like Groudon and Kyogre, but making them essentially living natural disasters that the evil team intends to exploit has had a negative impact on the story of every single game since then. Even in HGSS, my favourite games just one generation later, they made the legendary events mandatory with some of the most heavy-handed railroading I have ever seen.

>>58936461
Smallest amount of new Pokemon introduced if not including Megas, which you shouldn't be.

>>58936461
He means the new pokemon, they were like 70

>>58937850
Agreed, BW2 is a shit game because it has 0 new Pokemon.

>>58936477
Why can't I unsee their penises

>>58936497
this

>>58936588
You should have used Magneton as a better example since that's literally three Magnemite stuck together.

>yawnfag working overtime
Can someone explain the lore on why this guy goes feral if you talk shit about Gen 6?

>>58937855
Do you actually enjoy trying to win every argument by pretending to be retarded, or can you simply not stop yourself from being disingenuous?

>>58937515
no, im just disgusted by abominations like Slurpuff, Aromatisse and all those shitty foodmon like Alcreamie and the bread dog

>sagefag working overtime
Can someone explain the lore on why this guy goes feral if you talk shit about Gen 5?

>>58936370
Depends on the person, and how strict your definition of "jumped the shark" is, I guess.
>friendly rivals becoming the standard
>the "evil team" not being that evil or they're a joke
>starters becoming "jobmons" a bit too often
>starters getting a bit too human (I'd still fuck a Meowscarada so much she gets cumflated and begs me to stop, so then I plug her and we cuddle while I rub her belly)
>Primarina being so shockingly feminine despite the gender ratio, and surprising the hell out of a lot of kids that picked Popplio
>legendaries you can't fail to catch
>dungeons getting simplified out of existence
>postgame content going extinct, also, "The Battle Frontier Project has started!"
>ending Game Corners
>convergent evolutions
>adding contests
>removing contests
>the dex & move cuts
>SwSh doing that minigame thing for each gym as a weird knockoff of USUM's trial challenges
>BW going with a full new dex
>B2W2 going back to a regular dex
>EXP Share getting passed around like candy
>EXP Share being forced onto the player
>SwSh locking most of the options menu behind a completely random-ass NPC
>most of the regional gimmicks, like Dynamaxing (I still like Megas though, though they really should've given more thought to which Pokemon get them. Also most of the PLZA ones look like shit)
>the move to open worlds
>the games not asking directly if you're a boy or a girl anymore
>the anime making Team Rocket competent and boring for a series for some reason
>the USUM anime being too silly and cartoonish (bonus points for the meme reaction faces)
>Ash-Greninja losing in the anime's finale
>Ash-Greninja existing at all

>>58937871
It’s just an extension of shilling Gamefreak’s games. I don’t think this is the original yawnfag though.

>>58936370
all of this is ugly and stupid

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>>58936370
everything went to shit afterwards

>>58936590
Multiple in one battle.

>>58936555
This, inbetween gens 6 and 7 is the correct answer.
Say what you want about X and Y, but ORAS not including things from Emerald like the Battle Frontier was the first sign that something had happened to the design philosophy of the series at large.
Then gen 7 had arguably more cons than pros, and we all know how gens 8 and 9 went.
At least the legends games are somewhat of a return to form and based on the leaks gen 10 actually looks pretty solid visually. We’ll have to see what happens I suppose.

>>58937916
guy on the left's eyebrows aresomething else

Isn't Mosslax just a Snorlax that has moss and flowers growing on it? It's not even an actual divergent evolution.

>>58936394
Toedscool is based on a wood ear, which in Japanese is called tree jellyfish. It's just a silly pun

>>58936443
It's really weird how people mischaracterize Masuda after whatever their favorite game is.

>>58936370
gen 6
every gen since then needed some shitty gimmick
megas, z moves, ultra beasts, overworld pokemon, dynamax, terastallization, paradox mons

>>58937943
It's just Pokemon fans being retarded again. They could have easily just listed "individual Pokemon" (Floette, Greninja, Ursaluna) which has slowly been becoming a thing since Gen 6 (Though I guess Spiky Eared Pichu was the first)

>>58936370
Gen 4. Because they made God into a Pokemon.
How do you escalate from that? Gen 5 tried taoist shit, gen 6 tried temporary evolutions and space shit, gen 7 tried multidimensional shit, gen 8 tried eldritch aliens and kaijus, gen 9 tried alternate timelines and dimensions again.

They all still pale to God being a Pokemon. Once your series has you fighting God you've hit the limit.

>>58936370
XY with mega shinka

>>58936428
>games went from really easy to fucking braindead
Gen 1-3 are some of the easiest in the franchise, and 4 is way easier than 7.

>>58936595
Some post that Dragon Quest image where Pokemon copied a bunch of shit

>>58937882
thanks for admitting defeat

>>58937872
? I’m literally just agreeing with you that Pokemon games with less new Pokemon are shit. How is that disingenuous?

>>58936370
Is that Tentacool AI generated? It looks a little weird

>>58936428
Truke

>>58936370
mosslax isnt an evo dumbass, its just a snorlax covered in moss, if snorlax covers itself in shit does it evolve into shitlax

The fairy type will always be what separates old gens and nugens, and don't let any seething zoomers say otherwise.
inb4 yawntranny screeches about muh physical/special split

>>58938031
one of the most retarded opinion ever posted on this board

>>58938513
You didn’t point out the part where he’s wrong.

>>58936370
>AI generated tentacool for no fucking reason

What retard made this.

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>>58936370
.

>>58937855
this isn't even true though, it has keldeo, meloetta, genesect, black and white kyurem, and the therian kami trio

>>58938540
I still regard this and ORAS as the point of no return. X and Y were forgivable; this wasn't. It was the clearest way to say: we're doing the bare minimum now.

>>58937868
magneton is justified by the fact that they're magnets
what's dugtrio's deal though, that's what I wanna know

Pokemon didn't jump the shark you just grew up and became jaded.

>>58938560
the bare minimum like overhauling the dexnav, new megas, an altered plot, a new postgame story, soaring, redesigns of most characters, and remixing every route with newer mons in the postgame?
Not defending the battle frontier being axed, but treating ORAS as if it was BDSP tier is wrong

>>58936370
What is this fucked up AI graph you made? It's using like... corrupted versions of Sugimori art. Raichu's tail goes nowhere and its foot is fucked up, Snorlax has random smudges, Tentacool has a thumb and void eyes... all the pedophile billionaires pouring money into the slop generators and poisoning water supplies just so you could make this ugly corrupted bullshit that would take 2 seconds in Photoshop or Paint or literally anything else. Embarassing.

>>58938573
It certainly wasn't BDSP tier. But all of that IS the bare minimum, especially for the remakes up to that point. I just regard it as my first real disappointment in the series.

Gen 3.
Why?
Because that's the first gen that there was a shark to jump.

>>58938587
Don't forget to repeat this word-for-word to the first girl you know to drive home your point.

>>58938587
AI Derangement Syndrome claims another soul

>>58938638
>ITS GOOD THAT IT LOOKS WRONG

If I'm being honest, every mainline game has felt like "Pokemon" to me until SV

>>58938587
It's actually crazy how every retard is "deep frying" all the media and all their thoughts through generative AI. I didn't even notice. It's like they depend on it for everything and have become one with the gen AI, part of a hivemind which doesn't understand or deserve existence.

If a future can still exist, there will be no place for you. Please KYS >>58938638 >>58938611

>If a future can still exist
Anon, the sun is gonna rise tomorrow, the world isn't going to end because of a massive failing business venture and retards genning porn and pictures of cats with shotguns, get a grip on reality.

>>58938827
trannies have a hard time doing this

>>58936370
gen 6

>58936452
>the games after XY are harder than the games before it though
Lol

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>>58936370
>Mosslax is a different pokemon and not just a snorlax covered in moss
Behold a new Water/Electric pikachu form.

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>>58936370
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>>58937502
alola starters & legendaries revealed, the rest is history.

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>>58936370
this right here

>>58936370
Introduction of the Arceus mythos. It was peak when Rayquaza was running the show.

>>58938827
"Failing business venture" is just sugarcoating it. Similar to cryptocurrency, this is a fascist take over of the globe. And the longer you ignore it, the more they succeed. The world isn't ending if people acted human, but we are steering towards a "future" where privacy and truth are foreign ideas.
>>58938895
Your are the tranny, love. Since you love your fake slop generator so much, all so that multibillion dollar industries can profit off your delusions.

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>>58938013
while I agree that making literal Gods akin to greek myths into Pokemon was jumping the shark, I do feel like they handled the following generations pretty well.
More legendaries should be like Unova & Galar box legends, where they're just special powerful pokemon who are mostly only significant to the region they are in.
Legendaries like Arceus are really strange because why does Sinnoh specifically honor him? Why does not a single other region think to make some Spear pillar type of shrine for the literal God of the world?
All that said, i do like their designs, so I can't complain too much, plus PLA retconning Arceus to be a "piece" of God rather than straight up God did help things.

This is AI generated and you guys are stupid fucks for replying to it.

>>58938540
shouldve been first reply

>>58939398
your gay ass genetics look ai generated

>>58938953
The Unova legendaries are planet crackers for some reason. Because I guess they needed to keep them on par with the previous two gens.

>>58936493
The Klink line actually has notable changes. Magnemite line before Gen 4 was just multiple Magnemite together.

>>58937855
It wasn't the start of a new generation

>>58936388
This

>>58937856
from behind? they're called tails

>>58938031
XY are still far easier and where the handholding started getting overboard

>>58936434
From all the things expressed in this thread, this is by far the most stupid.

>>58936370
Mosslax is not a different pokemon it's just a snorlax wearing moss

>>58939844
>XY are still far easier
maybe if you’re retarded

>>58936428
I’ve never really understood why people want the children’s campaign to be hard. The campaign’s just mindless fun, you should be asking for a more involved set of battle facilities that don’t try to cheese you with RNG.

>>58936370
Megas.

>>58936370
Gen 5

>>58936370
June 11th 2019

>>58939880
I'm not. All Pokémon games are easy but they can be at different levels of easy. XY is by far the easiest, though you could argue LGPE is easier.

>>58940168
>I'm not
The fact that you think any of the games before XY are even slightly challenging proves that you are.

>>58940168
>All Pokémon games are easy
If you genuinely thought this you wouldn’t be perpetually screeching about XY being easy.

>>58936370
They started spamming legendaries and mythicals too much.
At first it was just the trios, boxart legendary and the mew clone.
Nowadays it feels like every generation has like 20 mythical rare pokemon and it just sours the whole thing. They're not rare or interesting anymore.
Doesn't help they started really forcing the legendaries into the plot of the games.

>>58940171
>>58940179
They're easy. They all give you the tools needed to progress. They just don't always tell you how to get the tools. In Gens 1-3 they didn't always tell you exactly where to go. Sometimes you needed to get a new item or HM but in order to naturally know how to acquire them you'd need to talk to every NPC. Gen 4-5 do this less and primarily keep it restricted to side locations and optional quests. Gen 6+ (minus remakes) don't have it at all. They tell you where to go, heal you often and give you free Pokémon that can effortlessly clear any battle and the Exp. Share, while optional in most games gives you way too much exp. The only post Gen 6 example I can immediately think of is Alola, especially in the Ultra games.

>>58940179
Games can be different levels of easy. One game could be mashing A with one hard fight and the other purely mashing A.

>>58940302
>-5
Who exactly do you think you’re fooling?

>>58940304
If you genuinely thought this you wouldn’t be perpetually screeching about XY being easy.

When it stopped being a franchise by Japanese for Japanese that baka gaijin could enjoy and enjoyed because it was Japanese and became a "global" franchise that had to be for everyone and therefore got sanitized for the sake of widespread appeal.
So, Gen 6, arguably Gen 5 depending if you want to count a non-Japanese Region counting as that. I personally don't since Gen 5 games weren't made with a global release in mind at all, and using that same logic, I would have to count Colosseum and XD which would be kind of silly.

>>58936370
I will hold to my final breath that everything that went wrong with this franchise has roots in no Z and not letting Ash win the Kalos League.
The consequences of those two things not being allowed to happen cannot be understated to the point a decade later we are still feeling the aftereffects of those two boneheaded stubborn and illogical choices.

>>58940349
>WAAAAH THE FRANCHISE WAS DESTROYED BECAUSE I WASN’T SCAMMED INTO BUYING XY AGAIN
mental illness

>>58936370
Personally I think all of these are fantastic. I’m just disappointed that the “divergent” evolutions in Pokopia are guaranteed to be one-off spin-off characters and will never come to a mainline game.
>>58936390
He was much better as an environment/route designer. Great artist. Not much of a leader/director. He’s been at this for 12 years and Pokopia is the first project of his that actually looks to be high quality.
>>58936434
Nah. The only issue with this is making it possible to minmax and easily overlevel during the main story. Candies, vitamins, etc. need to be saved for post game.
>>58938540
Can’t argue with this. Easily the most in-your-face shitty lazy thing they did up to that point.

>>58940310
>Who exactly do you think you’re fooling?
Idk. You decided that I'm apparently trying to deceive someone. I don't even know what I said that's deceptive.

>>58940310
I'm not screeching. Just stating objective fact.

>>58940374
It's better than having an otherwise incomplete game

>>58940396
>WAAAAAAAAH THE GAME IS INCOMPLETE BECAUSE I WASN’T SCAMMED INTO BUYING IT AGAIN
mental illness

>>58936370
For me it's them focusing more on the human characters with each new entry in the series and mind-numbingly boring plot points. Just make the game about Pocket monsters about the Pokémon themselves ff.

Is it not Generation 2? The series shifted from a quaint monster-taming JRPG to a life simulation game with monster-taming and JRPG elements. Adventuring in Johto is just as much about managing your time outside of the game as it is playing in a "conventional" way a la Generation 1. There's a reason Johto is so polarizing.

Most people on this board got exposed to the series after Johto, though, so to them it doesn't come across as this great shift in tone. Given that, I think that from a "new age" perspective, the seeds for the shark-jumping were planted in Generation 5, and had fully come to fruition by Generation 6. The series has been reduced to gimmicks and nostalgia-pandering, and Mega Evolutions was the pivotal moment that marked that shift.

>>58936370
fusion mon killed the 2d era

>>58938055
>Gen 1 pokemon are DQ ripoffs
>Gen 5 pokemon are ripoffs of DQ ripoffs

>>58938638
Rather have AIDS than AI-induced psychosis

>>58938827
>the sun is gonna rise tomorrow, the world isn't going to end because of a massive failing business venture
>anon, moments before jumping from a 30-story window because the American Dollar's value has collapsed and he can no longer afford pokemon

>>58941890
but they redid the fusion idea for usum?

When they remade Red and Green. No not Fire Red and Leaf Green. I mean Blue.

>>58938031
>>58942478
Kek, so much for this narrative

>>58936555
Well the problem was ORAS rolled around and instead of giving strong/broken megas to shitmons they gave one to salamence

>>58936388
This. The tera leak even confirmed it. Once Masuda was out, so was Pokemon.

>>58937871
He has actual autism. He physically can't understand that others don't think like him. It really is
>but I did eat breakfast this morning

>>58939947
i didnt say it needs to be hard, it needs to be normal and balanced. Why the fuck should i be forced to rotate my party because i overlevel in a second cause mandatory team exp plus tons of """"rare"""" candies?

>>58936434
This is the only correct answer ITT

>>58938953
>Legendaries like Arceus are really strange because why does Sinnoh specifically honor him? Why does not a single other region think to make some Spear pillar type of shrine for the literal God of the world?
This has been mostly confined to old interviews with the developers, and Masuda's recently leaked notes and the like, but it's because the Creation Trio didn't actually create the world/universe. They're basically the local kami of Sinnoh and Coronet, but the mythos surrounding them were greatly exaggerated by the people living there. Masuda, who directed Gen 4 and wrote all of its lore, has been on record saying Arceus isn't actually a god (2012), and that you aren't meant to take any of Sinnoh's myths at face value (2006-2007).

>>58944700
Also
>A long time ago, I wonder what sort of person painted this? Dialga's Roar of Time...Palkia's Spacial Rend...To the people back then, those Pokémon really must have appeared to rule over time and space.
This is from Cynthia, in Platinum. We also know from the Teraleak's notes on Cyrus from 2005, that "Sinnoh people made up the creation myths from seeing the legends' signature moves" was always the writer's intent.

>>58944149
Genuinely giving more Rare Candies and less EXP is great. You can choose not to use Rare Candies during the story, or use them if you want to catch a Pokemon from earlier parts in the game when you're way further in, or even use them post-game if you want to breed or whatever. Dumping flat EXP into only what you're using now isn't any good. Xenoblade learned that, Dragon Quest 10 learned that, Pokemon currently has all the tools and Go exists and sort of does it already. It's some minor menuing to have a ton of freedom, better than tons of menuing because you have no freedom.

>>58944024
>The tera leak even [FANFIC]
every time

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>>58936370
When they left the Gameboy concept behind. Pokemon was designed for the Gameboy, Gameboy Color, Gameboy SP then the DS, then 3DS, each corresponding to a generation. It's more than hardware because it's a holistic experience. You could trade up your pokemon into future games, in game worlds had gimmicks and mechanics specific to the device you were using. I could go on. It's not that you need pokemon games to be on a Gameboy/DS like device to be good, but the best generations were designed around that experience. Then Pokemon GO happened and the franchise just became a money machine. Nowadays games like Arceus are just embarrassingly designed because they don't know wtf they are doing. The "mainline games" are now just open world expansion packs with the same mechanics on the same system. The OG pokemon experience is intrinsically linked with the Gameboy/DS basically.

>>58936387
Also this. Gen 2 sprites are peak pokesoul.