Come here for talk about all things Pokémon Mystery Dungeon.Previous thread: https://arch.b4k.dev/vp/thread/59033851/ >>59033851Romhacks Overview/Reviews: https://rentry.org/pmdglphPMD Fan Fiction Archive: https://rentry.org/pmdg-ffarchivePMD Guides: https://pastebin.com/Dbq61R5uExplorers of Sky Romhacking Guide: https://rentry.org/skytempleguideEverything about the Clover Guild: https://cloverguild.com/Drawing Board: https://magma.com/d/deKkksDwx4Mobile Drawing Board: https://magma.com/d/FU2Na24WYRDrawing Request: https://rentry.org/DrawReqPublicQuestions:>Is there a specific dungeon you hated from any of the PMD games and why?>Why do you think pokemon can only evolve in specific places like luminous cave instead of anywhere like mainline?>What would be the weakest possible explorers duo?>How dexterous do you think bird Pokémon like Fletchling, Pidgey, Unfezant, etc. are with their wings?Recap of the previous thread:>Clover Guild Q&A 4 is out (https://rentry.org/ChrPrompt4)>Discussion on Romhacks, writing and motivation tips, and Grovyle
First for Nidder
I've been reading clover stories for a while now, and I'm really excited to, at long last, publish my first story, "A Bull-Headed Start". Hope you all enjoy it! Here's the link: https://rentry.org/CloverCachopo1>Is there a specific dungeon you hated from any of the PMD games and why?Cape of Wonders. It uses the worst of the GTI layouts, the worst GTI dungeon theme, high level for the point you can unlock it (fuck the Omastar that spam non stop Hidro Pump that goes trough allies). What makes it the worst is that the devs assigned what feels like every aquatic pokemon's mission to that dungeon, so you end up visiting it non stop.>Why do you think pokemon can only evolve in specific places like luminous cave instead of anywhere like mainline?Solely to contextualise why evolution is locked to post game. Won't complaint though, it's much more convenient than taking the pokemon you want to evolve to a dungeon, and it adds mysticism to the world.>What would be the weakest possible explorers duo?Riolu and Vulpix for sure. They're really bad, guys trust me, pick something else, something original while you're at it.>How dexterous do you think bird Pokémon like Fletchling, Pidgey, Unfezant, etc. are with their wings?I'd like to say not really. But chatot has animations where he holds the memo containing who's going to the expedition, so they probably have dexterity when it's convenient.
>>59087294great first story anon :D very cute premise for a character, and the cameos are very classichope you stick around!!
>>59087294Good story, anon. Some slight gramatical flaws, but nothing that hurts readability.Cachopo's anger issues are an interesting flaw for him to have. I'm curious what you'll do with them in the future, and with him in general.I found it a bit odd how quickly he landed on the 'feral' descriptor for the enemies he fought, even before knowing about the nature of the world, but perhaps it could be explained by his rage as well.>At least I managed to retrieve the stolen item.Heh.Please confirm or update the following information. In addition, you may now or in the future attach an expanded personality blurb that will be linked to your character's information.>Cachopo|M|P-Tauros (Aqua Breed)|N/A|Clover Guild Member|???
>>59087421Info is correct.
>>59086730>>Is there a specific dungeon you hated from any of the PMD games and why?Silver Trench, aka the Silver Shithole. Yet another bland water dungeon, 99f of identical tilesets, you need to do multiple deep dives because some recruits are only found as deep as 80 floors in, and there's no food in it at all so bring that Tight Belt.>>Why do you think pokemon can only evolve in specific places like luminous cave instead of anywhere like mainline?Something something concentrated energy idk it's obviously just a gameplay abstraction. Still better than getting asked to evolve every level like in Gates.>>What would be the weakest possible explorers duo?Phanpy/Eevee. Seriously they're so awful.>>How dexterous do you think bird Pokémon like Fletchling, Pidgey, Unfezant, etc. are with their wings?They can probably at least hold small things.
>>59086730>Why do you think pokemon can only evolve in specific places like luminous cave instead of anywhere like mainline?Arbitrary gameplay limitation. My head canon reason would be that evolution is extremely stressful/intense and these specific places make it much easier/safer.
>>59087294RIP random geodude chilling in a cave only to get obliterated. I can definitely tell you are a clover guild fan purely by how many members you wrote in
Here's the bird. I wish I'd gotten a screen tablet sooner.
>>59086730>>Is there a specific dungeon you hated from any of the PMD games and why?i'm gonna use 'hated' as the reasoning for the answering of this question because as a kid i hated amp plains and temporal tower. i'd say aegis cave these days for a boring answer>>Why do you think pokemon can only evolve in specific places like luminous cave instead of anywhere like mainline?technically in gates they can just evolve in dungeonsbut the real answer is who knows. i like the idea that there're specialised areas to do it though, makes it feel more special>>What would be the weakest possible explorers duo?something with phanpy in it.>>How dexterous do you think bird Pokémon like Fletchling, Pidgey, Unfezant, etc. are with their wings?i imagine some level of dexterity enough to hold things but not crazy>>59087294yo welcome new anon nice story
And Gus WIP
>>59088585>>59088901These look amazing, which artist are you?
Going to play EoS again but with Bulbasaur and Meowth. Who would be a good third partner for the team?
>>59089556anything with silver wind (venomoth, beautifly) or ominous wind (masquerain)alternatively, something like seel with powder snow/blizzard+haila pokemon with status effects like thunder wave, wrap, agility, can work for catching outlaws (e.g. dratini)
>>59089556Wooper.All my homies love Wooper.
>>59089752>seelmeant spheal. you can get it in craggy coast, just like dratinialso, ice ball sucks in sky due to pathetic accuracy
>>59089765>wooper (11)dams, thats a lot of wooper gifs
>>59089851There's a lot of Wooper in my folder, and still more in the PMD folder.
>>59089870Is your wooper folder a sausage fest? Or do you have some female wooper images?
>>59087294Very good intro, and a really neat choice of pokemon and gimmick. All of the guildmembers were written well and accurately, nice job! My only complaint is that it would be good to put spaces between your paragraphs so it's a bit easier to read.
>>59089884Some, thing is people mostly draw boy woopers since that design was first. Won't bother posting more since it's not really pmd related in that case.
>>59089897Ty. I'll add the spaces right away.
>>59088585I like how the cheek marks look on your birb compared to official art
For the past few months Glaceon-anon and I have been working together to reimagine CG in a dark fantasy universe. As Above sits at a length of 6k words while So Below is both 29k long and is much more heavily stylized, so there's your fair warning. As always, we both would appreciate reception and feedback about the story and art! Without further ado, we're happy to present:As Above>https://rentry.co/gs-above/and So Below>https://rentry.co/gs-below/
>>59088908Thank you, I've not been here in a while, but I think my old work is still on the booru as "Warwickia".
>>59091420I thought it was you, but I wasn’t sure. Your older stuff is amazing too.Do you take commissions?
>>59091616I do requests as my time allows, especially for Clover Guild and friends. No commissions. Please don't be afraid to contact me on Discord if you want something!
>>59091683I’m not actually in the guild, I’m just a lurker. My request would be completely off-topic.
>>59091950Oh, I see. Either way, you can just shoot me a message. I don't mind doing random requests every once in a while. My Discord is Warwickia.
>>59092110Thank you, sent you a friend request
>>59087294Got around to finishing it, the spacing you added in helps break up the walls of text a lot.Great intro, looking forward to reading future anger issues with this beefhead. poor subby doll had a hard life
>>59093278Holy shit it's you who did the Tropius/Rain art last thread, Druddigon-anon? Great art and chars! Are you still considering writing for Clover?
>>59093291Sorry for the inactivity. I haven't forgotten what I said but ran into more hangups than expected. I do still intend to use these characters eventually.
>have an idea for a story>but no clue how to handle the character's personality without it feeling sameythe eternal struggle>>59093380based, always need more writefags.
>>59093380You should pop into the magma! If you know about Team BucketBrigade and Cypress then you're probably well-read, and I'm sure anons would love to chat.
>>59086730Hope WiWa gives us a new PMD
>>59087294Welcome to the guild! This feels like a pretty straightforward intro, but his gimmick is fun. The part where he gets knocked out in a dungeon but immediately goes back in for revenge was amusing. There’s certainly potential for more stories involving this idea. Team Brave could probably help with his berserker tendencies... They’ve been dealing with the same issues too, conveniently enough. Bill the counselor could be helpful as well. Speaking of characters, I appreciate the cameos. Mustel’s scene in particular was a nice, believable way to teach the protagonist a little about his new species.I saw quite a few grammatical errors/typos, but I won’t harp on about it, because the story was still perfectly readable. I might suggest using a different format for the character’s thoughts, like italicizing them or putting them in single quotes, and not mixing them into the middle of narration like you do now. It’d be a bit easier to read than the format you use here, and more in line with standard practice for writing thoughts. But you can stick with this style if you want, as long as you keep it consistent.Regarding his extreme mood swings, I feel like his reaction to the problem was perhaps too muted, and he should have been more bothered by it (same with Lliam, who witnessed an episode firsthand). Also, the progression of his shifting moods possibly could’ve been portrayed a bit better. For example, when he follows Lliam around, you tell us that he’s frustrated, but you don’t really show him gradually becoming angrier. That makes his eventual outburst feel too abrupt, in my opinion.Regardless, it’s a solid start for the character, and I hope to see more out of you.>>59090911Having reviewed a draft, I can confirm this is kino. The setting, writing, and artwork are all very cool.>>59093380Hey, welcome back. Good to see you and your art again. Your linework has a nice style.
>>59093278driggerGODS we WONAmazing art, anon! That reminds me, the two on the left should be getting their next story soon...
WIP for Mond's reference sheet. He's a Roaring Moon now. Mond was once a normal Pokemon, but was trapped in a magnagate till time became a blur. He was spat out one day with a new, monstrous form. Though he is strong, his body takes a toll on him and is slowly breaking down. Maybe it wasn't ever meant for this world? Despises humans for their meddling.
>>59093634A silly little partner could fix him
>>59090911Cool, we finally have the Dark Souls of Clover Guild.
>>59094380They definitely believe he is a magikarp
A team of thieves and treasure hunters feels played out already
>>59094380Only one of the kids can throw rocks at him lol. Wooper is phisically incapable of getting mad.
>>59096071And you know for sure even if the others had hands Smoochum would be the one to do it
Someones no doubt made this joke before but...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N-o7L2l53Pg&list=RDN-o7L2l53Pg&start_radio=1
>>59096716It's not much of a joke. You're just pointing out that:>They're both orbs of darkness.>They're both final bosses.>They have the same name.
>>59094380It's kinda sad how that JP guidebook story revealed Wigglytuff spent a lot of time searching for Armaldo to no avail.
>>59097480If Armaldo doesn't hear about a place called Wigglytuff's Guild and think to look there, that's on him.
>>59098042He is probably dead
>>59099233Only the best for those chosen by the relic fragment
>>59099233>motor boating lapris
>>59098042>>59098740He’s fine, and he was released from jail too. He had a cameo in Super where he says he’s aware Igglybuff became a guildmaster.
>>59099544>He had a cameo in Supernot canon
>>59099577I knew someone would say this. Doesn’t matter if you hate Super, it’s still canon.
don't ask but it IS pmd related
>>59090911Been looking forward to this for a long time, and it did not disappoint. It got me to start reading clover stories again, and it may just inspire me to start writing again too. It's so peak. The story, the characters, the setting, the art -
>>59087294Welcome to clover!!!!!
I saw someone finish that Team Hack Event 2 hack. Good god what a fucking mess
Clover guild paints a bad reputation for ice types
>>59102547Hey, that's all Chespin's dooing. Just because Cyndaquiln is a degenerate doesn't mean everyone is.Now Pelipers on the other hand...
>>59090911It's pretty damn solid. I'll admit this doesn't much align with my personal taste in regards to the world and storytelling, so I can't judge it there, but the writing and art themselves are very high quality. I know a lot of work went into this, but it would be cool if this wasn't merely a one-and-done; it'd be nice to get another view of this universe from a different perspective. Otherwise, great work and congratulations on getting this out, anons!
>>59087294Very based story. I like this Cachapo a lot already, he's trying his best. Wait until he figure out how to become a water jetpack.Realistically, shouldn't the substitute doll be rock solid by now if it has that much nut in it? Would it crack in half like a blanket?>youtube.com/watch?v=7keIFbTlfcM>>59090911I'll probably never finish reading this since I do not care for dark fantasy in the slightest, but this is an incredible work of art and I really appreciate how much love has obviously gone into it. I really love all the alt designs and how you've reimagined the characters. >>59093278Me when I see a little fella. Love this.>>59093634He should be allowed to kill all humans.>>59088585You haven't been around since I joined, but you are my idol and I grovel before thee. Your skill with lines and colour are above reproach. You should illustrate for storybooks.
Weirdly, this is a completely different Umbreon, entirely unconnected to the first.
>>59103589Who is breaking umbreon legs. Does Adrian need protection
>>59103589
>>59104215>mfw no wheelchair accessible dungeons
>>59103502Lovely art! Thanks for the kino, Petal-Purr.
>>59103502It's so nice to finally meet you! Thank you for the Mond art, I really appreciate how towering you depict him.Jung would send me a lot of your work and animations. That one you did for the summer festival especially is so cute! Your style reminds me of MAPs I'd watch a while back.
>>59104215>>59103589Tell me about the cripple-bres, why do they lose their legs?
>>59104597Jorked it too hard.
>>59105550
>>59105553Don't worry, it gets worse.
>>59104597Umbreons are the favorite victims of mentally unstable Sylveons.
>>59104597Dark types understand that strength can come from anywhere and take care of their crippled young, unlike P*ychics who use them for twisted experiments and F*ghters who eat them
>>59106159>F*ghters who eat themWell, why wouldn't the bigger, stronger fighter eat the small ones.
>>59106123I want this with Sylveon Ribbons vs the other eeveelutions
Rare Gates fanart, is there anyone who played Gates and DIDN'T pick Axew?
>>59106669Holy fuck so CUTE!Axew with rivalry in gates is really fun. You obliterate dragon types! (Even tough there are hardly any in the main story outside of two endgame bosses)
Also who tf invited swanna?
>>59104597It's the other way around. Crippled eevees choose to become umbreons because they're edgy and seething about having no legs
>>59107259Put all eeveeloutions on the short bus where they belong.
So, I've been working on writing my intro story for almost half a year (and by that I mean I wrote around 80% of it and then it was left in limbo for most of that time), but could never find energy to finish it.Turns out someone showing up out of the blue with a finished intro is a pretty good motivator to do that.https://rentry.org/6pwfwuezEnjoy the read.
>>59108451Wellcome to the night shift!
>>59108451Nice story, I enjoyed the two's banter, and the guild can always use more shithead prankster characters like Lint. I do enjoy Amo's monologues too and think they were well-written even if they make YIIK music play in my head. I can't imagine writing those for every story though, but I guess you can always swap to Lint's POV if you get tired of writing them.
>>59108451Couldn't stop myself from doodling Lint after a certain line in your story.
>>59103502I adore how unbothered and happy moisturemaxxing Wooper and Blossom look
>>59106669You say that like gates has a large list of pokemon to pick from. 3d was a mistake and I stand by that
>>59106669I picked Oshawott and Tepig. Spamming high level Blizzard basically just rapes everything the instant you enter a room, but that isn't until a decentt ways into the postgame.
>>59110784Well, Super managed to include every single Pokemon, so clearly 3d isn't the problem
bump
>>59106669I went with Oshawott/Snivy
>>59106669I picked him as the partner mostly because he was the odd choice there.I wonder how popular Axew or another dragon like Gible would have been if they were starter options in Super.
>>59113196Unsure, they'd be up against all of the starters, who are engeniered to be likeable. At the same time, there aren't many off picks to compete with.If Gible was added to Sky, I'd imagine it'd be such a normie pick that we'd be making fun of it.
Why did DX turn Western Cave into a 20 floor dungeon instead of 99
>>591138241. There are a lot of 99f dungeons in Red/Blue rescue team2. Mewtwo's bossfight received a big glow up. Now featuring a second phase in the form of Mega Mewtwo.
nanners, in the guild ?
>>59114817It's more likely that you'd think.
>>59108451Welcome to the guild, friend!
How can a mother fucker get some nanners when none of yall have manners?
Hello, I've been watching the thread for a while and decided to try writing a short intro story for some characters. I'll try writing a second part in the next day or two. Hope you like it.https://rentry.org/cg-deltadawn
>>59115816nice story and choices anon
>>59115816Nice work, anon, and glad to have you here. That was a good read. The ending of the story got a chuckle out of me. You have some cool story hooks with Thunderhead, and the two of them being on the opposite end of the continent, so I'm interested in seeing more about them in the future.N/A | ? | Turtwig | Watrtel (Stormy, M, Native) | Outsider | ???>>59108451Read this as well. The issue Lint brought up was interesting to read about. It's a good use of the species and a human's relation to it. As a Solosis, Amo forms an cool thematic parallel - how he could also be seen as constantly 'wearing' something.The second to last two paragraphs may have some errors with the italics formatting.I also do have to agree with one of the above anons. Amo's monologues are somewhat YIIK-like. That's not a bad thing.Thank you for including personality blurbs.Amo | M | Solosis | Mimikyu (Lint, F, Human) | Clover Guild Member | ???
>>59115816cute intro! I love the classic setup you have here, it's always a good one to see. and extremely based choices my friend - we're eating good lately with the new anons and their taste in pokemon. Hope to see more from you soon!
Hello I am skimming through the rec'd romhack titles list in the OP as I am in a phase of playing my DS a bit more. I've played half of EoS and SMD to the end but lost my file. Anything on DS/3DS with a decent-enough story without overtly difficult combat would be cool if anybody has any commentary.
>>59116201The Clover hacks aren't that hard and can stand on their own as stories. None are all that long, 2 hours tops for the later two.
>pmd fuckers are the horniest pokefags alive>0 horny romhacks
>>59116201I can recommend Seal of Ancients, Waves of Nostalgia, and Strung up by Sketches. The Clover hacks mentioned by >>59116328 are Team Misfits, The Weather up There, and Togetic's Very Special Episode. Though I would recommend skipping Team Misfits unless you really enjoy the writing of the other hacks, it's much shorter and less polished.
>>59116432John Cena and the Quest for the Undertale OrgyChatot Comes Out of the ClosetAnd also this https://sites.google.com/view/jojoretrogamersromhacks/home?authuser=0
>>59115816Really nice to see another huma enthusiast! (Or at least in this case a human world enthusiast)
>>59115816Short but sweet intro, something nice to read before bed. Always nice to see more uncommon pokes as a team, I always thought Turtwig was weirdly rare despite everything. Wonder how Stormy will react if he gets to the guild and finds out about Wooper.
>>59116432>does he know?
You guys do rescue codes? I ate shit when mew spawned in a monster house at level 40 something of relic rock or whatever in red rescue team. Never done this kind of thing before, but if anybody wants to rescue me I'll drop the code.
>>59117385What dungeon? I didn't unlock all the dungeons on my red rescue team save but I might be able to do it
>>59117398Buried Relic, the one with the Regi Trio.
>>59117398Send the rescue code and i'll give it a shot at some point today (either that or another anon does it first)
>>59117398>>59117446Alright. If you want a reward let me know. I might be able to drop a thing or two.
>>59117385If you don't get any anon to solve it for you, there are online solvers where you can put your rescue code and it gives you the rescue complete code
>>59117623Thanks for the tip. I'll wait to see if I get saved though.
>>59117866>>59117510Here you go anon. No reward necessary, but if you REALLY wanna send one, a spare Escape Orb would be nice
>>59118199Ayyyy what's your rescue team like?
>>59118575Main story team was Meowth and Squirtle, but in the postgame, i just started soloing with Poliwrath. I fed him a bunch of gummis and boosted his level a decentt amount, because i wanted to go for all recruits, but i got bored of it and so this save has been laying around for a year or so. Someday i might go back to it
>>59119186The tower looks pretty unintimidating, with how soft it's drawn.
Hey fellow human PMD enjoyers! I have returned following the completion of a 1-year recalibration cycle, which was necessitated after receiving unexpected input from a rogue post asking for instructions on confections.As you may recall from my previous creative output (https://arch.b4k.dev/vp/thread/57637217/#57657120), I have successfully produced the second chapter.The protagonist has been designated "Gropt" and the narrative now features amplified stakes, Clover Guild interactions, and a reconfigured tone that appeals to a wider audience.https://rentry.org/realpmdstory2I would greatly appreciate any feedback inputs to further refine my writing capabilities during the next recalibration cycle.
>>59119577Finally someone decides to add some stakes to their story.>"The Zangoose and Seviper stop making out"Kek
>>59115816Welcome to the guild! Very interested to see where you go with your characters.>Character who can't stop themselves from talking on and onI fear what would happen if Stormy and Toge interacted.
After extensive research, the shareholders have determined that the "Team Petal-Purr" needs an image shake up in order to survive in today's fast paced economy. Species and appearances have been shifted to accommodate the fresh new tastes of today.The following changes have been approved:>Shelby>Skitty is no longer the most marketable of the catmons and is in danger of growing stale. The Eevee is a more versatile pick that is sure to stay current for years to come.>Blossom>Though Bulbasaur's popularity remains consistent, it cannot match up against the broad appeal of a green cat. Sprigatito is the usurper of two thrones; grass starters and catmons alike.>Heidi>Houndour has extremely little cultural relevance and is no longer a species that gels with the image of our brand. Though Vulpix was considered, it was decided that Fennekin resonates more with our target audience.We expect a substantial rise in market value. Thank you for your attention to this notice.
>>59119984Can you get rid of the foxes? New Blossom already fullfils the Petal and Purr requirements on her own.
>>59119984>▶I know this is an april fools joke, but I'm still fucking killing you for this.
>>59119984PetalPurr stocks just went through the fucking roof
Today i will remind them
>>59119984even has a aprils fool those are peak design
PMD Desert Bus is out! I forgot to link it here before I went to bed last night. https://drive.google.com/file/d/12YVU2x5VH9AywUT6Fn2oyMonIzwDSxrm/view
>>59119984If you think I'm not going to lust over nu-Heidi you are a fool.
>>59115816Hello again. I want to thank everyone who replied to the first part. I really appreciate it. I know it’s weird to post a story update on April 1, but I’m ready to share the second part. Hope you like it.https://rentry.org/cg-deltadawn2
https://zzazzdzz.github.io/fools2026/Some of you might be up to the 100F challenge without hacking.
Does the human society and complexities of the human condition tend to make former humans difficult to connect with born Pokemon to fall in love with?
>>59089556Now I'm having second thoughts about this team. They don't really have a lot of coverage so how are they going to beat Primal Dialga?
>>59089556>>59123061A Rock+Ground Pokemon
>>59123082
https://rentry.org/DarkestMemoir
>>59122178Nice second part, very cute story.I've been bamboozled. Still, it was a nice story, and Wattrel's a fun character.>>59122589Cute art!
>>59122178Part 2 was posted as soon as I started reading part 1. Very good work, anon! I enjoyed it much!And I also got got hard. I should've known...>>59123226This fills me with dread and fear.
>>59122178Damn Booker-anon, how come they let you have 3 teams?>>59123226Some day, Cynda...Some day.
>>59122589>Would you rather fight one drudiggon-sized togedemaru or fifty togedemaru -sized drudiggon?Going off of game mecanics, fifty togedemaru -sized drudiggon would absolutely murder you trough rough skin. I'd take my chances with the drudiggon-sized togedemaru.
I wanna draw fag but I fucking suck so bad, how do i just do it and not care without thinking people will call me gay and cringe?
>>59123749best advice is, don't care about what you perceive other people thinking of youjust do your gay fag art and be free
>>59123753i did one time and no one called it gay... yeh you are so right
Do you guys play on a ds,3ds or an emulator?
>>59124163EoS Romhacks?I much preffer emulator, since it's eassier to take screen caps, and you already need to use a computer to patch the rom.Vanila games?I use 3ds for that.
>>59124183You still play the vanilla games on 3ds? Kinda based. I've been playing on emulator for all pokemon games for years but I dug out my 2dsxl and Im thinking I might try to play on it again, wonder if itll be as comfy
>>59124185The anwer is more so that I haven't played them in a while, and I'm not sure how well my laptop can emulate the 3ds entries.
>>59124189i bought a really expensive pc a few years agojust to play games on and I feel like I locked myself to it being my only gaming device, anytime i try to spend long hours on my 3ds or switch 2 I stop or end up napping cause I crawled into my bed
>>59124922Cute Qwilfish.
>>59122178When turtwig said TOTAL RIBOMBEE DEATH I truly felt that in my soul.
>>59126182when will this make it into a story?
