Whetstone Edition>I want to learn the game, where do I begin?Download PTCGL at https://tcg.pokemon.com/en-us/tcglThe game has a quick tutorial and a bunch of decent decks to get you started against other beginners or against the AI. Some of those decks are very close to meta too. You can also go to your local game store and see if people are playing Pokémon.>I know how to play, how do I make my own deck?You have a decent beginner's guide at https://www.justinbasil.com/guideThere's also the old /tcg/ guide at https://imgur.com/a/W4NkOu6After that, look up meta decks and try to reverse engineer them to see how things work.>Where to find meta decks?For big irl events, go to https://limitlesstcg.com/decksFor online events, go to https://play.limitlesstcg.com/decks?game=PTCGFor japanese events, go to https://pokecabook.com/archives/1417Previous thread: >>59057525Old /tcg/ pastebin: https://pastebin.com/Ge95YuMARotation:March 26th for online and April 10th for physical.https://www.pokemon.com/us/pokemon-news/2026-pokemon-tcg-standard-format-rotation-announcement
spiky
>>59091700And cute!
Imma add this bad boy to my Sharpedo deck once Arven rotates out.Going second, evolve and start drawing while killing stuff
The new starter deckshttps://www.pokemon.com/us/strategy/pokemon-trading-card-game-live-starter-deck-strategies-march-2026>>>>>Giving everyone dragapult ghosts for free
>>59092083>LiveAll meta decks are free there by default, lil bro.
>>59092123Most need fixes but this is just the straight up cancer list that's ruling jp right nowPeople use the free decks more than others so you'll be seeing more dragapult there than irl or jp is.
>>59092083Not that big of a deal. Dragapult was already most of the ladder decks to begin with, and it's not exactly an expensive deck (lol) to make. I imagine it'll have a small uptick of usage since the format is rotating which will have some tourists stop by for a week or two, but you'll either never run into them or stomp them because they'll be bad.
Only 2 more days to play them before they're gone. Make the most of it.>I'll just play it in expanded-Expanded is a whole different game, these wont play the same, most wont even be good enough to compete vs expanded decks.If you want to experience these decks one last time you should really play them now before they leave standard
>>59091786would you a cactus?
>>59093201The only cards I'll miss from this are both Toedscruel, Klefki, Bonnet, Super Rod, and PLHQ. The rest of these can rest in hell
>>59093275Chien pao was a cool honest dude
>>59093201The only cards I actually enjoyed on this list were ChienBax and Roaring Moon. Ditto, Iron Bundle and Squawk were cool too.
>>59093318No
>>59093201Rest in piss evo/devo. You will not be missed.
>>59093262What do you think? https://www.pixiv.net/artworks/106762932
I'm starting to get normies on my twitter account complaining that Dragapult BDIF format is way worse than Gardevoir instead of porn
>>59093548>I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO. IT'S FUCKING UNBEATABLE. THEY SHOULDN'T MAKE A DECK LIKE THIS IF IT DOESN'T HAVE ANY COUNTER PLAY. FUCK DRAGAPULT.
>>59093396Evo was fun allowing for stage2s to function without being rare candy bitches We really need more ways to help stage2s. The only ones that work have built in engines like kirlia, drakloak.
>add CornerPon to Lucario thinking it just checkmates Clefairy because they only have abilitymon>they play a 1-1 Lopunny nowstop adapting just let me punch you dn't ave to do this it's just a game chill out acurally thinaks for t hree ptizes needed that lol
>>59093690I put a damn Rocket Kangaskhan because of the Cornerstone.Cornerstone is not that scary without Munkis supporting it anyways.
Pre rotation Dragapult always have 4 Iono. Saying the post meta Dragapult is more cancer that Gardevoir is ridiculous.
I just won yet another league challenge playing froslass/munkidori. Made some absolute DEVIOUS devolution plays, I'm gonna miss this mf. AMA
>>59093785No, you don't understand. Having 0 Iono and 0 Counter Catcher to manipulate with Dusknoir is worse. Losing powerful tools makes the deck better than it was, actually.
>>59093690A Raging Bolt deck hit me with Lopunny when I was playing Crustle. I was so sad
>>59093796Who is your favorite wrestler
>>59093785>Pre-rotation Gradevoir had refinement kirlia, no way in hell it's cancer in a post rotation metaBro, this isn't even a discussion, the japanese meta tournaments already show pult dominating every single top cut.
>>59093806Danhausen
>>59093809Last month champion league in Fukuoka (2/26).While Dragapult in the top 16 is high, it's not as dominant.The thing that actually surprised me is the lack of Lucario deck here.
>>59093813Really
>>59093817>It's not important, it just takes 25% of top cuts>This is also before red card printingOf course it's not tier 0 but you just can't deny it os the undisputed bdif post rotation.
>>59093830And is still less cancer than Gardevoir with the munkis. Infinite energy engine while also destroying your bench at the same time with the damage counter moving and attacking with Screaming Tail which is a basic 1 prizer.
>>59093830Not him, but a lot of Dragapult's dominance is that everyone has psyopped themselves into thinking it's an insurmountable deck. As for Red Card, personally I would much rather get red carded in a Meowth format than Iono'd to 3 without one but I don't think it's that bad that you're ignoring the strengths of each deck and that Gardevoir is just legitimately a better deck than Post Rotation Dragapult is.
>>59093201>jet energy, my beloved...
>>59093864I once had an embarrassing incident with this one thinking that it was weak to fire.
>>59095043Cancer
are tardevoir players really supposed to be impressing me as they fiddle around with their monkeys for ten minutes at a time, knowing they've already used their supporter this turn and i have boss' orders for game?
>game starts>take my first turn just fine>opponent plays pokepad, brock's scouting and takes ages to choose anything>shows a countdown timer for some reason>i draw for turn and it immediately ends my turn>opponent then begins his second turn, plays buddybuddy and then just never chooses anything while the game waits for him foreveri'm guessing he's exploiting and waiting for me to concede
How badly would it break the current game?
>>59095391catastrophically like every time DCE was allowed
>>59095400How badly would you cum if picrel was made legal again?
average niggerpult playeritchy pollenbudew diesnight stretcheritchy pollen againthey don't know how to do anything elseand that was the only damage they dealt that game
>>59095281I miss this.
>>59095360You are not supposed to rate a deck based on their worst player.
I hate Live bugs.The last one I had was one that made me unable to use the attack I wanted to use which led to giving my opponent a free 2 prize.
I have the feeling some of you guys only play live instead of engaging in the actual irl game which is very sad and your opinion shouldn't count at all.
>>59095645truth nuke
>>59095645I remember a guy from this thread a few years ago saying he couldn't play irl because he couldn't stand all the shuffling you have to do.
>>59095722I hope some critter vores you.That's not a compliment.
>>59095645>play live instead of engaging in the actual irl game which is very sadPlaying my favorite deck at home while sitting in my comfy office chair makes me feel less sadness akshually
>>59095751The feeling of utter agony from shitters when I steamroll over their jank piles, that look in their faces and the deafening silence is something that will never be topped playing tcglive.
Live player opinions count more because you get to play the game more. Irl players being better is a joke and if anything Live is more fair because you have the client enforcing fair play so people can't try to cheat or shark you.
>>59096280I look like thisI attack for one energy like this
>liveLMAO!
>>59096325Live player opinions shouldn't count because the game is full of people playing jank chungus whereas irl play has a higher % of sweats metaslaves. I could rip n' tear through the ladder with an off meta deck just to get my deck's cheeks clapped when I show up to my local lgs store.
ace trainer should be a minimum requirement to post here
>>59096466Over 75% of my ladder games are vs good decks and most of that 75% are Dragapult. I agree with the idea that jank isn't a real consideration and that rank on Live is also not real, but it's dishonest to say that there aren't a billion people spamming the top decks on Live. I would say that in my personal experience, there's probably an equal amount of competent Live players and dogshit locals players regardless of the deck they're on as well. This game's not complicated in the slightest so I don't understand it and the numbers for both aren't particularly striking, but they exist nevertheless. My only argument is that you have access to games on a far greater scale playing Live than you do hitting locals every week which matters a lot because your sample size is a lot greater which is important when the game, as mentioned, isn't particularly hard.
Oh, bigbrain swellhead genius Pokemon Master is here. Everything's so easy for him, nothing ever gets in his way. He's so good, so smart. It's so effortless for him. He has girls handfeeding him grapes during his matches, he doesn't even have to pay attention to win. So easy. A real ggnore type of guy.
mmm... grapes...
what the fuck do the numbers mean on the friends list?prior to today they were all like 1 or 2, which didn't make sensenow one of my friends is 85, another 64, and one 136, which also makes no sense
>>59096627Trainer level? It's pretty pointless I dunno why they brought it back from the old client
>You must set your address to participate in Play! Pokémon programs.Yeah nah
>>59097014bro doesn't want anyone to know he's homeless lmao
Is Lopunny Dusknoir dead after rotation? It's a fun, explosive deck but losing Jet Energy will probably kill it. Same with anything Yanmega
>>59097115brother it's dead right now
>>59097128I always seem to do alright with it. Maybe my opponents are dog.
>>59097128It's extremely effective in a Bo1 format, most shitters don't know what's coming to them. I have won a a couple tournaments with it lately. Guess it depends on your local meta.
>>59095645i don't think i could stomach playing paper in this metaat least on live i can alt-tab and do something else while my opponent consults his flowchart for how to click on munkidori over and over until the game endsthere really is just no way to carry on a conversation with the opponent to keep things at least somewhat interesting when they're just playing meat puppet for minutes at a time>>59096466bro every second ranked match in live is dragapult what are you talking about
>playing unranked>opponent is playing what seems to be arboliva ex meganium something else>visibly bricks from turn 1>instead of just conceding and trying again he starts spamming boss' orders and budew over and over>when he finally gets an arboliva ex he uses the first attack into ogerponwhy are they like this?
>>59098381Based retard... if he instantly conceded then he wouldn't have learned that valuable lesson. Always play your games to the end...
Would McNuggies Mew be any good if it were a real card in the physical tcg?
>Terrorist attack at a pokemon center in japanWe're never going to get cards again.The one time where gardevoir and shitapult is getting sent into the retirement and things were looking better, now its getting worse.
>>59098919Is that a real card? Seems way too erotic, how the fuck did they got away with that?
>>59099145I don't see why that incident would affect the tcg in any way.
>>59098310Lower your elo to 1550, you won't see pults that much.
>finish G block by emote spamming when winning against a pult player in the 1500s with yanmega + ogerpon + wo chien exCouldn't feel better
>Perfect order and rotation out>Nobody is talking about itrip..
>>59099825we can talk about crustle
YES FUCK YOU G-BLOCK WOOOOOOO
>wake up>G block gonePraise Jesus
I already miss her
I will keep farming prizes with gardy at my local store until the last fucking day. Faggots be seething.
Does that new Meowth just straight up not work in TCG Live or am I doing something wrong?
>>59100030Is rockets watch tower in play?
Ooh, I need to play Live again now.
>>59100036...Maybe?
Hoping that means Iono is goneThere's going to be so many players who are just utterly lost as to how to play the game now that their crutch isn't available anymore
>see new batch of CL lists>it's thisOh.
>>59100244
>>59100244yeah that's kind of what happens when it's got a 51%+ winrate against every other deck in the formatthere's just nothing at all that consistently beats it
>>59100244>>59100255Whys blaziken there anyway? Isn't crispin enough
>>59100302japanese players are retarded enough to play fire weak mega evolutions like venusaur and meganium and blaziken just means you have a 0% chance of ever losing to them
>>59100235Speaking of clueless people, is that schmuck Aesop ruining his next game after Eternal Return and Omega Strikers yet?
>>59100302>Isn't crispin enoughPowers up Dragapult and Clefairy without having to use Crispin, or powers up both Dragapult and Munkidori in the same turn with Crispin. Makes building another Dragapult or Clefairy in the late game easier, and lets you "free" retreat stuff without having to have Latias in play.
>>59100244What did you expect? Rotation has been a lot more difficult than I was expecting. Besides fagapult, it's made a lot of other decks more even and viable. The problem is pult is so OP now it doesn't seem to matter.
>>59100244red gardevoir...
>No LDF>No FTWOur CCs... who am I meant to watch for rotation info..
Does anyone else just instantly concede whenever they go against the Alakazam dunsparce deck? I just hate waiting forever for their turns. I want to play the game not watch them play solitaire.
>>59100872You're playing the wrong game.
>>59100880What game should I play instead? I can't stand ygo or mtg since every deck runs cards that basically say "your opponent isn't allowed to play the game". I just want to play some cards man.
>>59100890>Game allows disruption on your enemy turn>"JUST LET ME PLAY MY CARDS MAAAN">Game lets you play your turn uninterrumpted>"I DON'T WANT TO SIT DOWN WATCHING PLAY SOLITAIRE MAAAAN"Have you tried chess? Nevermind I got a game just for you.
>>59100905You do realize there's a difference between a turn that lasts a minute or two and the dunsparce draw through most of your deck every single turn and take 5 minutes right?
>>59100917Just call them out for slow play to the judge/store owner? Honestly drawing cards shouldn't take long and the shuffling should be done in a couple seconds.
Fuck Live.I could have won this one, but I couldn't use the Ultra Ball for some reason.
>>59100890Play Wixoss.
>>59100958Lmao rocket shitters still exist?
>>59100917Take some adderall or play a different game.
>>59101048Rocket is in a little better position now that Iono and Gardevoir are gone.They are going to fall to the bottom again once red card comes.
>>59101745This is a dangerous card. I would put 4 of them in my deck just for the rush to get 2 matches.
Famous Country dude bros are shilling pokemon now. You will never be able to buy packs at MSRP again in your lifetime
>>59102122>backwards hat, neck tattoo, goateeThat's trailer trash alright
>>59101999Based gambling addict.
Tyrantrum deck help?Fossil decks really need somethings to help them because of the fossils being itmes so you can't start with them.
>>59101048yeah people are still playing decks that aren't dragapulti don't know why when it's a solved meta rn but i guess they just want to be different
>>59102508>Tyrantrum deck help?stack your opening hand with all your fossils. The tyrantrum prerelease deck played 4 petrel and 4 rocket's factory which felt fine when I played it so you can maybe use that deck as a starting point.
>>59102508>>59102644Why does TPC hate fossils?>can't start with one>have to be searched as items>60hp so Dragapult fodder>no reliable way to recover >give up prizesI love fossil Pokémon but they're always such a cunt to use.
So basically post rotation the meta is extremely varied and there's a ton of valid decks now. HOWEVER Pult is so OP no one will play interesting decks because there's one unbeatable deck. Do that I have that correctly?
>>59103386Pult is perfectly beatable.In the JP tournaments, there are many Pults in the top ranks, but they are not getting 1st place all the time.Basically, Pult is the most consistent deck with the least chance of bricking.
>>59103386Pult is a bitch but not as big as you are. Very beatable deck, it's just overall solid.
>>59103386Pult is the most consistent deck and pretty easy to pilot so it's what most people gravitate towards but it's not a tier 0 deck or insanely OP. It's overrepresented but it's not unbeatable. Especially if you can afford to tech against it, which is a safe thing to do when it's so prevalent but not all decks can.>>59100336I'd add that Dragapult on its own kind of struggles with those because of the high hp pools and heals so it complements the deck's weaknesses well.
>>59103386It's not mechanically unbeatable but it doesn't have a single losing matchup in the entire metaThe only things that it's unfavourable against are decks that have absolutely no viability apart from a 51%+ against pult and even then they aren't guarenteed to winAlthough now they don't have the dusknoir exploit anymore so there's that
>counter catcher rotated>so did ionoSo how are the meat puppets meant to play the game now?
>>59103787Boss orders and red card. It is still a supporter and an item card so they play pretty much the same lol
>>59104078Boss' Orders is just one of those "permanent" trainers like Ultra Ball and Switch so I'm just going to have to accept that, unlike how we all knew how broken Guzma was.Red card coming back is kinda cringe thoUltimately I just don't like how "comeback mechanics" in this game serve as their own win conditions.
>>59104117That's what you get for playing a tarded game with prize cards instead of shield cards.
The Zygarde deck that Live is trying to sell is fucking shit. Bricks way too much.
>>5910413130 years later it's still one of the worst concepts of any TCG
>>59104138Shortly followed by evolution when you're tied to an IP that demands its strongest creatures be without it. Impressive how Holoka fixed both of those and improved on the type system too.
>>59104208the evolution mechanic struggles so much because the vast, vast majority of NFEs don't do anything and are basically dead cards that serve only as stepping stones to ones that may or may not do somethingit's why there's so many times where people just say fuck it and play big basicsblack and white was EXTREMELY egregious for thisbecause not only did NFEs do nothing but evolutions scaled VERY poorly and could not compete
This set is so trash I don't have anything new and interesting to play... the only positive is that I haven't seen an Absol dickrider yet because they lost the ability to pick up and energize their shit ass cards for free and they're all too stupid to look up a new build.
>>59104214i'd imagine most of them just migrated to pedostrat since that too is also just munkidori and 57 other cards at the end of the day
>>59104132okay yeah you're right I queued up with it once for the noveltyit's not goodit's REALLY not good
i'm trying to test some fucking absurd cook and i keep being matched against the things i have a 99-1 matchup against purely because of the colour of the cardsi'd top-right but it's ranked and i'd want the rewards at some point anyway
>>59104427>I would win if only I didn't instalose to things that I keep running intoAnon maybe don't go jogging in slippers.
>>59104496no I meanmatches I'm instantly winning from card colour aloneotherwise i'd have said it was 1-99
>>59104497ooo gettem
>>59104132Literally the only game I've managed to win while playing the doublade deck is against the zygarde deck
DIE DIE DIE
>making a comeback after a losing streak>facing Bouffalant, Hero's Cape M Kanga, Munki cancer deck>WiFi flickers for a second, switch to mobile data>game decides I get to eat shit and not playFuck this shit game I'm going to bed
>store has Perfect Order still>grab some packs for the novelty>pull mega StarmieIsn’t that first move a little strong? I was thinking of making a deck with him regardless but that feels crazy.
>>59105335It's nothing to write home about. If you want to hit the bench, Arboliva is better (20x6 to any target). If you want to hit both, Grimmsnarl does more overall (180+30 to bench) and energizes himself but is a stage 2. Grimmsnarl is a better deck overall evidenced by JP results and I sincerely doubt that will change now that we have access to it especially when water doesn't have a lot else going for it at the moment. I saw a list going around with Mega Froslass too but I don't know if it's worth trying.
>>59105295does Steven's metagross make doublade usable? I've been trying the ignition energy build but I just can't seem to make it consistent
After playing all day today, I am not playing Dragapult mirrors anymore. I'll just play a fucking Clefairy deck or something, this is insane.
>Zygarde.>Got 5 flips.>Opponent conceded.The deck is shit, but when it works, is beyond hilarious. It really excites my gambler heart.
>Zygarde>Get 1 flips>I concededThese flips are rigged, and it is depressing. It really saddens my fledgling gambling spirit.
>>59105335It is good paired with froslass but still not high tier due to water having no support. Don't listen to the arboliva shitter, Mstarmie is leagues above that shit.
>>59105802Arboliva isn't strictly strong, it's just a very good rounding tool for Ogerpon.
>>59105802History is already in the process of proving me right, sometimes you're just ahead of the curve
>>59105843SEX
Tempted to go for a Marnie deck on Live so I can jerk off while playing.
What is the reason behind adding a Cornerstone in a Mega Lucario deck?I can only see this working if one only had Mega Lucario and a Cornerstone in play, but it will heavily disrupt their draw machine and energy chargning from the discard.If one is extremely lucky and managed to build everything with only using 1 Solrock and 1 Lunatone without losing them, then it will only be 5 prizes taken before having only Cornerstone alone, but then you also have to pray that your opponent doesn't have something like a non ability pokémon or the rabbit.It's not even an anti Pult move since Dragapult doesn't have ability in the first place.I just don't understand the reason behind adding a Cornerstone in Mega Lucario decks.
This is why this deck is not popular.You will lose before getting your second turn quite frequently.
>>59105962Forgot picrel.
>>59105853That's what I wanted to do, but then Grimmsnarl ended up being pretty fun.
>>59105966Premium Power Pro?
>>59105843>rubberraw only
I'm coming out ahead bros... I apologize to Beedrill. Your deck actually looks very fun with the addition of Arboliva...
>>59105885Instawin vs some decks like grass(if they dont have mega meganium) or grimsnarll decks. Even if they have a way to get around it, it often buys you a lot of time stalling till they get that built or bossing around it
>>59105443It means you don't autolose to single prize decks, but the draw is a lot less consistent.
>>59105853it's not entirely because every pedostrat player is there jacking off to ai marnie porn on their second monitor but i figured it's often the reason why they make 500 misplays every turn and loseit's also why you barely see anyone play it in paper
>>59106616It would be hard to play in person while hiding your erection, yeah.
ironically the only people who give a shit about buying perfect order are collectors because the only usable card above uncommon rarity is meowth
I don't even really play Pokemon anymore and it's not as enjoyable as it used to be for me, I don't know why I'm spending money on new cards.
myself trying to work out why my opponents are taking 4 minutes a turn and then realising>oh yeah>they're child molestersand just alt-tab as they work out the incredibly difficult decision of which attack to use out of the only one there is on the card
>guy bricks with rocketslop and scoops when i candy grimmsnarl>queue into him again immediately >he's on dragapultlol...
>>59107956>fuck this, back to my tier 0 wheelchair deck
I might be becoming a garchomp believer I have no idea what a list looks like when there is fighting gong, buddy poffins, pokepad, and even ultra ball sounds good so you can draw more with corkscrew dive. It's got too many search options.
>>59107964In his defense he was playing some Noctowl Togekiss bullshit but he scooped again so lmao
>>59107995yeah i guess he doesn't realise that just because he has dragapult in the list doesn't mean he can just full random the rest of the deck lol
okay that's enough pokemon cards for one day
>>59091682Shall we have one last dance, my dear?
I miss control...
>>59108717>takes 5 minutes to consider each step
Reprint Cancelling Cologne. Reprint Hex Maniac.
>>59109174I wanna see cancelling cologne+pokemon ranger on a supporter card.
is picrel worth playing in the doublade deck?
>Watching through sevilla>That froslass/munkidori vs dengo match>The froslass player conceding when he had game on hand simply because he thought legacy energy would net him no prizes from a buneary dying after devolution>He then won the second game but time left wasn't enough for a third game so they tiedFuck man that was painful to watch, seriously what a fucking retard.
>>59109272Some anons earlier were saying stevens metagross is better for doublade
>>59109272I don't think a doublade deck is worth playing at all.
I can't believe we have another 3 or 4 months of this trash ass set to go
>>59109373Chaos Rising comes in May, however.
I know that it doesn't deserve it, but god I wish Munkidori would get banned. I hate this annoying fucking card
>>59109341Every deck is worth to play as long as it's fun.
Zygarde isn't fun
This set isn't fun
>>59109476It wouldn't be so bad if we still had ability denial. Gardevoir manipulating its damage counters was one thing, but Dragapult can potentially do>200 + 60 with Phantom Dive, + 60 more with 2 Munki + 130 with Dusknoir450 damage in one turn.
>Full Grip had a post-rotation $3k tournament today>Dragapult mirror in finals>BlazikenPult won
As somebody that understand how the game is played, but have not really played it that much.How much would the game break if Prize cards worked like other modern games. when hitting the loser player get the card instead of the one winning.because obviously the game was not designed for that... but what if it worked that way?
>>59109710I don't think I've played a shield mechanic card game besides a tiny bit of Digimon, but that game is entirely different than this one so I don't think the experience was comparable. That being said, I think it would alleviate some of the annoyance but I think a better solution would be something like Draw 12 choose 6 to prize since the main issue is being locked out of part of your deck like shields also do?
>>59109710The game could get rid of prize cards and not much would change. It might even be more balanced and less snowbally if you're winning because there's no card advantageLike you're not punished for iono-ing yourself low if you're taking 2 prize cards the same turn.
>>59109758>ionook grandpa
>>59109764Back in my day..
>>59109767I think having this again would be healthy but if we got any back I miss Guzma & Hala the most. That card was awesome.
why do people run genesect in doublade? I keep losing because genesect gives up too many prizes
>>59109939post your list please
>>59109939free damage
>>59109962Pokémon: 73 Genesect ex BLK 674 Aegislash POR 581 Fezandipiti ex SFA 383 Beldum TEF 1134 Honedge POR 563 Metang TEF 1144 Doublade POR 57Trainer: 111 Precious Trolley SSP 1852 Dawn PFL 872 Team Rocket's Petrel DRI 1762 Battle Cage PFL 853 Poké Pad ASC 1982 Night Stretcher ASC 1962 Lana's Aid TWM 1553 Hilda WHT 842 Team Rocket's Factory ASC 2032 Brave Bangle WHT 803 Boss's Orders ASC 183Energy: 24 Ignition Energy WHT 8610 Basic {M} Energy SVE 16Total Cards: 60
>>59109310bad balance creates bad playerspokemon isn't exactly a mechanically intensive game but if all you're doing is spamming munkidori like a retard all of the time you're not exactly improving your gamesense because you've been taught you don't even have to read cards in order to win
>>59109694yeah people clocked on that pult has zero losing matchups in the current meta and nothing else is really worth playing on a competitive levelwe're heading into the XY meta where 8 out of 10 players were running yveltal garbodor at any one time
>crustle vs festival lead in top 4>crustle wins game 1if festival lead can’t win this shit I don’t want to hear about the deck ever again
>>59109341Meta fags deserve to be gassed
>>59110665i mean that's just the skill level of the average pokemon player in 2026 when they find a way to lose a literal 95-5 matchup
>>59110737Let's give the benefit of doubt and and believe that Apple deck was completely bricked, like having all their stadiums prized.
>>59110755yeah that's where the 5 comes frombecause the festival lead player didn't include 7 copies of the stadium in their deck so they instantly lose on setup
>>59110665In my humble opinion festival lead is the single most OP deck in format IF, and that's a big if, you get lucky on the first draw. If you don't get a festival grounds and an eco you're cooked most of the time. It's a super fun deck though and definitely one of my favorites.
Dragapult didn't land a top 8 in the Osaka championship.
>>59110935dragapult isn't really a deck that suits the playstyle of the japanese playerbasetheir hyperactive media feeds have given them all extreme ADHD and they can't even sit through using drakloak's ability before their brain checks out from lack of immediate stimulationas a result winners are in fact entirely random because they make 500 misplays every turn
>>59110964>their hyperactive media feeds have given them all extreme ADHD
When the hell is Ansha getting a card? I'm getting tired of waiting.
>>59111002okay so what other cope do you prefer for how if you've ever seen them play they literally cannot sit still for two secondsi understand you really wish you were japanese but it's not just western zoomers who have had their attention spans obliterated
>another instance of the game locking up on the first instance of your opponent searching their deck so you're just unable to do anything or even concede the match so you have to close the client and restart itwhy do i even bother playing this shit
yepclassic zygarde
>>59111126Get a better connection.
>>59111255assuming it is my connection and not the client being a sack of shit>if you DC for even one second you get hardlocked and it's an instant game loss because...the client is a sack of shitdidn't think that one through there did you champ
>>59111272I've literally never had a single issue with it ever
god fucking dammit everytime I'm winning with doublade I fuck up the ordering on cards and end up throwing the game fuck this deck fuck this game
>>59110761How do you deal with Munki without Vitality Band?
Mahone said Alakazam was bad.
>>59109982I cut both of the rockets factory and added an extra pad and an extra dawn. I've literally never played rockets factory but always feel like I could use more searchers.
>>59111272You were saying this about CR ten years agoYou were saying this about HS five years agoYou play on your phone on a shitty connectionYou get what you fucking deserve
>Olives in the finals of this big rotation limitless tournamenthttps://play.limitlesstcg.com/tournament/championship-viii/player/cloudytb/decklist
>>59111715Based...
I hate this fucking game. I just want to play with my doublades but my opponent keeps fucking playing judge and I don't have genesect online to recover my cards.
>>59111715Believe in the Olives
>>59112339If I play against a Doublades or Honcho, I am definitely going to spam hand disruptors.I wonder if the Dunsparces would help in that deck to survive against hand disruption, that extra 3 or 6 card may help you get the Genesect to find the Doublade line more easily.
Alright, this is kind of funny.
>>59112421I just did this to a guy
>Decide to load up old reliable daily mission deck>opening hand is Durant and 6 fighting energy, perfect>opp goes first, flips Rocket's Mimikyu and plays a card I wasn't paying attention to, adds nothing to his hand and then scoopsYou bastard
>>59112437>next guy opens Sudowoodo, plays dunsparce and pads rotom and I'm assuming he's just searching for gas to try and end turn 3 to put me out of my misery>grabs 2 fetchling and I realize he's just playing the new Azul video slop and wants to unironically play it out>plays accompanying flute and grabs another durantHe's still playing shit as I type this by the way this has to be a bot or something
ban fucking boss's orders holy fucking shit i keep games stolen from me because of this bullshit
>>59112476The purpose of Boss is to end games, newfag. Nothing is being stolen from you. If you were meant to win, you would have.
https://poal.me/nhq5zdWhich flavor of Dragapult are you liking so far?
None of the above but at least they're going into side project territory which livens my games up a little
I think Phantasmal Meowth is going to rise in price. I noticed a bunch of speculators talking about it as well as nostalgia genwun people noticing the card. Just feels like a lucky card
>>59112969who the fuck cares? retard
bros expanded is so fun, what the heck?
its unfair that he gets to call that guy a retard but i was getting posting errors
>decide to see what the olive hype is about>Ogerpon drawing 3 cards every turn>Meganium letting Ogerpon oneshot Megas>Arboliva picking apart benches and setting up kills for Ogerpon
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>>59113002It's a surprisingly well rounded pile. I really like the Beedrill version too, I think Arboliva itself will last as long as they keep making playable grass attackers but it might fall off if they don't print a shaymin solution sadly.
>>59112971Angry speculator that genuine true and honest Meowth lover notices the truth
tpci please run expanded tourneys again, my expanded meme decks are the only ways I can enjoy the game anymore
I found a bug in PTCGL. Toedscruel Ex from PAF prevents Galarian Cursola V from using it's attack even though damage is not an effect.
>>59097934I played that card as a wee lad 1x years ago
I feel like Garchomp would be better with Crispin and MunkidoriI feel like Absol still needs Precious Trolley
just admit that you don't know how to play the game without being carried by munkidori
It's faster for its energies
I hate when people take forever to ship a card. All you have to do is drop the envelope in the mailbox.
>>59113979Most don't do it as a business they just send them off when they're going out. Some that do it as a business wait to bulk send various others at the same time
I haven't played in a few months - I saw mega starmie got a print, but it seems super fucking mid compared to other megas.Is this the case?Before I quit I was playing Ceruledge EX gimmick shit, and Dragapult was basically fucking everywhere.
>>59114125>fucking mid>thinks 120+50 for 1 water is midlol
>>59114174>dragapult shits out 200 plus 60 to the bench for two energy and only yields two prizes instead of 3>most megas are 300+ hp which means it takes 3 turns for a KO, for starmie, and 2 for dragapult>also bypasses bench damage immunity because it's damage counter placement and not damageYeah, it's mid compared to that. Dragapult and other gimmick shit that has to reach that power level to try to do 300+ damage in a single attack set a pretty high bar. I just thought I'd ask to see if there was water support that makes the damage not shit.
>>59114210>I just thought I'd ask to see if there was water support that makes the damage not shit.Froslass+munkidori to ensure that you are always sniping a 1-prizer or 2hkoing a meowth. Can also include mega froslass to do 300+ if the opponent is careless.Starmie also starts attacking 1 turn sooner than dragapult.
>>59113624I think if the pult builds with 4 rusky ruins becomes popular it might be good to play them instead of the roserades. during that glc guy's tournament there was a garchomp that lost to a pult even after they whiffed dreepy the first 2 turns because they had double munkidori set up.
>>59114252Munkidori is just a braindead card that will be abused by anything that can for the next year. For perspective, in that Lucario build with Crispin and Munki, every time they don't oneshot your Lucario, you get 1-2 free Premium Powers every turn in addition to what you already have.
Sleeving and unsleeving cards from my binder to build decks is getting old. Thinking about just getting a bunch of color coded deck boxes and doing that instead. Need supporters? Pull out the red deck box. Simple and quick.
>>59114362literally all they had to do was make munkidori an ex so that it was actually punishableinstead it's a single prize, single retreat basic that for some absurd reason can not only use the ability from the bench but isn't a hard one-per-turn usage
>>59114222Not if the Dragapult has an ideal hand. The only thing stopping it is a rare candy which ideally you're pulling every game.You're waiting two turns until they can swing anyways, which you can fuel two energies. That's why I put the bar insanely high because 80% of the time, I'm gonna be facing a dragapult deck that doesn't brick which means turn 2 they got a dragapult ready to rip my ass.Same with raging bolt or garchomp.Is there any damage counter manipulation or like movement outside munkidori? I thought about froslass but the problem being that you need like insane bench presence to start really moving damage counters around/building them up to move around.It's those standard like bullshit power houses that I either just admit I lose and hope they brick, or play on their same level of bullshit.I also thought about playing alakazam, but then I saw fighting has a new special energy that negates literally damage counters which is basically hope I have enough enhanced hammers that aren't prized or I lose also.Sounds like I'm bitching but idk. I got tired of being steamrolled by shit you can't outplay and just have to overpower.
>>59114712If you have a pult list that hits candy+energy turn 2 80% of the time, you should be playing that over anything else.
Guys does Arboliva want to go first or second?
I go first so I can evolve ASAP with tree and start hitting bench
>>59114738I mean it was before rotation. I don't know about post, but there was a lot of search aid for them to find what they needed.It was pretty consistent. But also not fun if that makes sense?It didn't feel like you had to think about much to make things work. Like it's a simple aggro deck. Winning is fun sure, but idk. I like playing something unique or different that you don't see 80x.
>>59114789I go first just to get around Forest's restriction. Do as much as you can, then on turn 2, you can go nuts.
I want to start getting into in person events. I have a 40 card fighting type Tyrantrum deck from the Perfect Order prerelease. How would I turn it into an official deck? How many cards does it need to be? How many energies do I need? How many evolution lines do I run? I play Pocket passionately, so I kinda know how card games go. thanks in advance for any guidance
>>59115125>How many cards does it need to be?60
>>5911512560 cards, I would probably look to youtube for some jank, since I don't think anyone here has talked about it as a whole deck. Until they address the fossil issue I don't think anyone's going to be talking about Tyrantrum as a real deck unfortunately.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MTJMCTJqCXoThis is the future.
>>59115143Im not looking to be super competitive, just to go and have fun. I have tons of bulk from recent sets, I was just looking for something I could easily put together
>>59115150There are several decks like Alakazam and TR Honchkrow which cost literal dollars to make.
Still haven't found a deck that feels as good to play as pure Zoroark.
>>59115168are these Pokemon mostly in Destined Rivals?
>all these new Dudunsparce decks>after Artazon rotated
>>59115149Kinda depressing, I wonder why Greninja always gets the Charizard treatment.
>>59115340No.
>>59115149yea the future 0-5 mirror match at table 1400 lmao
Just hit Master with this. First time doing it with a deck I made from scratch. Any ideas for improvement? Feel like Salvatore could get cut for something like even just a single Judge, since I have 0 hand disruption.
>>59115773I mean... I get the idea, but this just looks kind of bad in actuality. I don't think any of these are worth actually using the Kingdra line for even if you can cheat them out. At least when dark did it you could cheat out shit like Tera Hydreigon and obsidian someone or OHKO anything with Scolipede. Is this really the best water options you can cheat out? If you really want to use these attackers in particular, I would run less energy and then just run some way to find energy, whether it's Energy Search itself, or Hilda or Colress to grab an energy in addition to something else so it's more efficient. You don't even have a way to find your ace spec, and is Blender even worth running when you're already running 4 balls? If already have Naveen to help discard pieces, you could run a better ace spec like Secret Box for consistency if you're having trouble getting the ball running or a general goodstuffs ace spec like Stamp, Prime Catcher, or Legacy Energy for your megas. The latter would also synergize with the aforementioned Hilda to find said evos to throw in the discard along with energy.
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>>59115832>Is this really the best water options you can cheat out?yes lmao. the deck is really hampered by just how bad Water types are at the moment. Probably could afford to trim a few Energies in favor of those supporters you mentioned, Hilda especially seems solid. >is Blender even worth running when you're already running 4 balls?Blender seems like a meme but it really does help get mons in the discard early for those games where I can't seem to dig them up and discard with Pad and then Ultra respectively. I'm partial to Stamp since I mentioned having so little hand disrupt, but Secret Box could be real good now that you mention it. Appreciate the write up anon.
There are no exciting expansions planned for this year. 30th anniversary is going to be scalped to hell so not even counting that.
>try to attach an energy from metal maker immediately after the UI disappears instead of waiting for it to highlight meowth as an option>this breaks the entire game and locks/error 15s my ptcgl account until i reinstall the game my bad
Yep, it's timeSurely they won't have judge if I attack with serp ex
>opponent doesn't take an action in time on their second turn and has a mega kang in the active>oh well I guess it's a free win, let me get my garchomp out and one shot it>I promote, go to attack, and my turn ends >after a few seconds my opponent concedes love this game
>>59115773There's actually some fun Water Pokemon to cheat out... Ludicolo so your Pokemomn get +40hp, Aurorus so your Pokemon with water energy take 50 less damage. Your 310HP Kingdra suddenly has 400HP, 490 if they have to two-shot it.Unfortunately I have no idea how to power up the Kingdra. Dewgong/Spidops comes to mind but that's a ton of shit to set up.
Is picrel a good product?
>>59116286Kingdra is there solely to setup the bench lol. It'd be cool but like you said I'd have to slot in Gong just to make him try to work. Rather just rely on the two Megas to be the primary attackers.
>>59116342Go ask >>59109913 what you should blow your money on, investie.
>>59116388>investieDo you "people" seriously have a separate thread for that? LOL
God I love Arboliva, game's just over by turn two
>>59116397Yeah. Fuck off to it.
How is this deck list for Tyrantrum? It feels inconsistent but that might just be a fossil issue.
>>59116426There's only a handful of new format results to go off of, but its matchups are insane so far.
>>59116478No
>>59116426>>59116543Can you post a list? What makes Arboliva so good?
>>59116543>33% against mega lucarioyeah I'm not playing this. but this also explains why chicken pult is farming city leagues
>>59116426>>59116543Life will only get better with Beedrill I think. I'm not a huge fan of Dunsparce but it's the best we've got that isn't Ogerpon.
>>59105885This >>59106387 and also other gimmick decks. Say, Alakazam, Festival Lead or Crustle decks cant damage it and its attack ignores Crustle protection. They sometimes have something to deal with it (Ive seen Reuniclus on Alakazam and it might have a Fan Rotom, or a Rilaboom in Festival Lead), but until they pull out their anti-Cornerstone setup (if they didnt scoop) you will be waaaay ahead in the prize race.
>>59109795>I miss GuzmaIt was so good they made it a one off card
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