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Pokémon Champions is a free to play online battle simulator available on Switch with a mobile release later. It features ranked, casual and private battles for both singles and doubles, and will be used for VGC tournaments in 2026.

SWITCH 2 UPDATE: Launch the game in handheld mode to get the performance boost (can still play docked after). Still 30FPS, however.

>News
Small bug fix patch: https://news.pokemon-home.com/ja/page/758.html
Warm Up Challenge online competition live, runs through the weekend and gives free Gardevoir
Free Machamp mystery gift code: CHAMP10N
Season 1 runs until May 13
Mobile release possibly leaked for June

>Links
https://champions.pokemon.com/en-us/
https://x.com/Pokemon_Champs (EN) https://x.com/Poke_Champ_jp (JP)
Pokémon data: https://serebii.net/pokedex-champions/
Available mons: https://www.serebii.net/pokemonchampions/pokemon.shtml
Mega abilities: https://serebii.net/pokemonchampions/megaabilities.shtml

Quick FAQ
>Do I need my own Pokémon to play?
No, the game features a recruitment system, but transferring from Home is recommended to save time and resources.
>What makes the game so much more accessible than before?
All aspects of a Pokémon are customizable with VP, a currency earned simply by playing the game. IVs are also removed.
>Is there single player content?
No.
>Do I need a Nintendo Online subscription?
No.
>What's the starter pack?
US$6.99 one time purchase for 50 training tickets (fully train for free), 30 quick coupons, 50 extra box space and the LGPE trainer music.
>Is anything locked behind a paywall?
So far everything gameplay relevant is also purchasable with VP. Mega Kalos starters and E-Floette require ZA transfer.

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I like this game and it's what finally got me into playing competitive
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any mega starmie users? what team are you using
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Charizard @ Charizardite Y
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>>59169455
Yes?
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My wife is really dedicated to her job
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>>59169453
sinistcha/starmie lead
sinistcha turn 1 trick room
starmie turn 1 mega huge power self-destruct
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Shit game
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>>59169458
her tattoo looks stupid. it does feel like something a bimbo would get so she gets points for flavor
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alright fine, I guess I'll play rain
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>>59169458
I wasted all my tickets on her. . .

I'm seriously thinking of getting Leaf Green to nab some specifics (I want to do meme shenanigans with Victreebel and the gacha annoys me) Really clever way to covertly monetize the game, I already continued my Sword playthrough that I never cared to finish back then.
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Every time someone posts their masterball rank I get to see my wife
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Does Knock Off flinch now? I just lost a battle to a flinch knock off lol
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>>59169484
There are very few items right now so stuff like king’s rock will actually see play
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>>59169484
No. Opponent was probably holding a King's Rock.
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>>59169490
Actually tight

Interesting to know. This game is fun af
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>>59169351
Sure but the West also hates gambling because it recognizes it can ruin lives and stigmatizes it.

There's basically no stigma in Asia.
A LOT of vices have less stigma in asia. Gambling. Smoking and Alcoholism. Adultery and Prostitution.

Officially they're all illegal or at least heavily frowned upon, but unofficially loopholes are being abused in multiple ways and nobody cares because everybody is using them freely.

>It's not a handjob, it's just a nude full body massage that happens to include the genitals, if the client orgasms from it that's on them. And if after getting to know each other during the health procedure, our masseuse gets turned on by the client's indiscrete ejaculatory outburst and has a "two consenting adults freely having sex" romantic fling in our massage room, and then the client freely tips her gratuitously because now they've been romantically involved, well I suppose technically that's fooling around on the clock but we've had no complaints from clients about losing massage time to canoodling and we're not strict about discipline here because good masseuses for this thorough and intimate a procedure are hard to find, it's not our fault they're all sluts. I mean, who but major sluts would agree to therapeutic penis massaging anyways?

>>59169462
It is, quite literally, a "BLACK BVLL" tattoo.
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>>59169453
I’m unsure if flip turn is worth it, but I did oneshot Zard Y in the sun. I need a calculator
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https://x.com/i/status/2043780090589524022
Even Super Mario's VA is playing this game
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>>59169506
>but the West also hates gambling
lmao. Pick a Western country. Google its profit per year from the gambling sector.
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>>59169506
>Sure but the West also hates gambling because it recognizes it can ruin lives and stigmatizes it.
>what is powerball
>what is draftkings
>what is fanduel
>what is polymarket
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>>59169509
>Master Ball 4
I wonder what team he's using
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>59169406
Which is why i got Powersaves, so i can make a backup of my ultra sun save file.
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Anybody got a shiny Dreepy lying around? I can swap you a Shiny Gabite or a Sh-Alpha Treecko
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>outplayed fag tiger with sand chip damage

Too based to fail
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>>59169533
>Shiny Gabite
Don't insult people now
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>>59169550
>I used an incredibly overused pokemon to counter another incredibly overused pokemon
impressive stuff, anon
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>>59169480
I was the same last year when Champions got announced. Also used it as an opportunity to breed a Rillaboom (he’ll be in again at some point), a shiny Grimmsnarl and a shiny Dracopult (got their shiny cards back in 2021 and I think their shinies are among the better looking ones).
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>>59169511
>>59169518
Sure, but the western social consensus is that you're life ruining idiot for participating.

It's still around. Still very profitable, arguably moreso. But there's a strong stigma. Friends and family members will tell you off, maybe stage an intervention or break off relations if it's bad enough.
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>>59169594
If that was the social consensus then the gambling sector wouldn't be making trillions a year because the society would've rejected it wholesale. Stop being stupid. Gambling has been prevalent in the west as far back in history as we have recorded and is getting worse year on year.
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>>59169569
I don't have any extra Gible, just Gabite
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It's wild how much stronger and more useful Hisuian Samurott is compared to the regular one. Ceasless Edge just shits out damage without requiring any setup and sets up spikes. Sucker Punch is strong priority stab. Sharpness is unquestionably one of the best offensive abilities, whilst the regular one gets shitty ass Shell Armor. Won multiple games only using him.

They really need to heavily buff the base one, because the powergap is insane.
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>>59169594
anon gambling is so normalized its become ingrained in sportsball to the point you get draft kings ads during the superb owl and basketball stars get nailed with charges for rigging games based on their own bets. Entire underground feuds fueled by CSGO skin betting casinos taking each others profits. Shit is literally both pervasive and widely accepted and those examples are just the tip of the iceberg.
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>>59169480
>I'm seriously thinking of getting Leaf Green to nab some specifics
What can you get in Leaf Green you can't get in other games?
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In your experience, what are the most common pairings for M-Frosslass?
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Question from a poor who didn't get HOME yet(I will soon)
In SV Bisharp can evolve into Kingambit. I noticed I have a lv100 Bisharp named Pierce. It's an ingame-trade one apparently. Want to make this a Kingambit for novelty sake, but can it even evolve now it's lv100? :<
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>>59169599
>If that was the social consensus then the gambling sector wouldn't be making trillions a year because the society would've rejected it wholesale.
No, because people still want to do it.

Are you not familiar with the concept of hypocrisy? Or even just a split opinion at the society level, where maybe certain demographics feel differently than most?
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>>59169430
Rate the team
https://pokepast.es/ea7b367ef67790a6
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>>59169616
can't go wrong with Sneasler and Kingambit
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>>59169616
Can't you find this data in the app?
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>>59169628
Feed it a candy, also Home is free if all you want to do is put a few pokemon there to use in Champions. You have a 30-slots box to move pokemon between games or keep them there.
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>>59169640
You are mentally retarded. I understand you want to try to do a white supremacy thing here, but you're legitimately too stupid to even pick the right things to do it with.
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>>59169628
Home is free, otherwise you can "level up" at 100 with a rare candy which should prompt the evolution.
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>>59169614
Yeah gen alpha specifically is a lot more lax on vices.

Higher tobacco use.
Higher gambling.
OnlyFans.
About the only traditional vice still downtrending is alcohol and that's because they're swapping it for THC.
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>>59169647
I'm not even doing white supremacy. I'm describing cultural differences not biological ones. A white man raised in Japan would still be more chill about traditional gambling.
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>>59169660
You are mentally retarded for thinking that gambling is a cultural taboo in the west then. Quit while you're behind.
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>>59169616
Why, it's gotta be Me x M-Froslass of course.
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This format sucks. I thought it would be more like Reg H but the lack of items means the counterplay to Pokemon like Incineroar doesn't exist and gimmicks feel far fewer.
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>>59169689
I like it because no Tera
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>>59169693
Tera > Mega Evolutions and it's not even close.
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>>59169698
Yeah sure bozo, unfortunately Tera fucking sucks and random type changes aren't fun while Mega is cool both in design, concept, and execution
Tera isn't even cool in concept and it's worse than even Z Moves in execution
Imagine this shit with no open team sheets
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>>59169689
Agreed. There's like 3 viable teams and everything not in those teams is effectively entirely useless. Every single format should have Incineroar banned by default.
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>>59169703
Changing types is insanely fun in lower powered formats since it allows you to have an answer to almost everything. Tera Normal to make almost anything be an answer to Ghost spam is a good example.

Champions fault for being a shit game for not putting open team sheets. Mega Evolutions are shit and mostly just homogenize the meta to weather + broken stuff like Mega Mence.
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>>59169698
Tera is the best mechanic. Not overly centralizing like the other three
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>>59169716
>Changing types is insanely fun in lower powered formats since it allows you to have an answer to almost everything
That's the dumbest part, that and every Pokemon being allowed to Tera
Megas only being available on some and taking an item is much more enjoyable because it's at least partly telegraphed, and it's not like some retarded Teras weren't metawarping anyway
Tera is the most shit gimmick by far to play against, along with Dynamax
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>>59169430
Anyone got a fun team that uses Mega Floette?
I do not want to use Incineroar. I'm hoping to either use Archaludon or Hisuian Typhlosion.
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>>59169698
based take
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>>59169729
>Everybody having access to an insane mechanic is worse than Gamefreak playing favoritism and suffocating the meta with it
You're a Timmy who likes Charizard and that's the most generous assumption I can make.
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>>59169732
sure, try this team:
mega floette
archaludon
hisuian typhlosion

hope this helps
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Mega Kanga seems really good in this meta. It checks whimsicott and incineroar (thanks to scrappy) really cleanly.
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>>59169739
I was thinking Arch or Typhlosion
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>>59169732
Incineroar is the best partner for MFloette in the game and it's not even close
https://www.pokemon-zone.com/champions/tournaments/the-champions-cup-1k-prize-pool/
6th team here doesn't use Incineroar
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>>59169594
Maybe at one point but nowadays everyone gambles. I just saw most of my normie uptight high road upstanding society christian white collar picket fence family a few weeks ago and they were all bragging about how much they win/lose betting on sports/esports/literally whatever. Huge recession indicator right there.
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>>59169737
In a perfect world every Pokemon would have a mega but that's not feasible
If Tera was just one type change species wide it would be fine but it's not and it's insufferable, it is extremely miserable
also I hate Charizard and most shillmons
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>>59169615
By specifics I mean catching a bellsprout and training it to a victreebell instead of gachaing it. Of the games on switch I only have Sword (which I largely hate) and the Victreebell line was cut from it.

Yeah sure there is GTS but I simply can't be arsed with it.
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>>59169740
i'm trying to use her but she just keeps getting fucking destroyed instantly. what teammates should i be running alongside her?
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>>59169737
>see team preview in mega format
>charizard and venusaur
wow a sun team, I know exactly how this match is going to go

>see team preview in tera format
>6 randoms
>kingambit might go flying tera to dodge an EQ
>oranguru might grass tera to prevent the spore
>torkoal might fire tera to deal big dam
>primarina might ghost tera to avoid the fake out
literally no idea how this match is going to go

which is more interesting to you?
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>>59169721
Oh boy I sure can't wait for the Dynamax Regulation to roll around...
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So, why are most of the hisui mons allowed but braviery and electrode randomly
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>>59169747
Creativity and being able to use types to compact space was good reverse powercreep. Your solution is terrible.

Also this game doesn't even have all the megas available so I can't use the fun ones anyways. Universal mechanics are better because you shouldn't trust Gamefreak or whoever is behind balancing to make functional formats.
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>>59169764
I never played SwSh but the idea of making 3 turn Z moves + Exclusive OP forms just sound retarded to me
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>>59169765
Please understand, we needed those limited mon slots for Dedenne and Simisear.
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>>59169753
Oh yeah, the Switch releases...
You're talking to a retard who kept all his old GBAs/DS's/games so I assumed you grabbing an overpriced GBA game, lol
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>>59169765
They aren't in yet duh
silly anon
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>>59169763
The latter and I'm hoping you're agreeing with me.
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>>59169771
Oh it was. It promoted Stall and it was just boring as fuck. I might sit out the Dyba regulation when it comes in. Kinda looking foeward to Z-moves regulation though. But only if my trainer does the gay little dance that goes with it
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>>59169758
Between fake out, sucker punch, maybe body slam or PUP or bite, she shouldn't just be getting fucked with no counterplay. You want at least a bulky pivot in the back because fake out gets reset every time you switch back into her, which is just a free turn and pretty big damage
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>>59169769
>Creativity and being able to use types to compact space was good reverse powercreep
It fucking wasn't. I don't care about how awesome you think it for your Scrimblo Bimblo mon to reverse sweep on ladder because they Tera'd into some inane shit like Bug or op shit like Fairy and swept the opponents team.
Tera is a fucking blight. If the meta is more restrained or whatever, sure, I don't care. It's better than having garbage like Tera. Unpredictable and teamwide gimmicks are the worst shit ever.
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>>59169765
They had to make room for fucking Sneasler the worst part of reg H by a country mile.
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>>59169794
go back to sm*gon
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>People talking about Regs and gimmicks
Think they'll ever put in a "All gimmicks" reg? Just so people can go nuts?
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>>59169794
Yeah mechanics that cause fun interactions are bad man everything should be boring matchup checks in-which 90% of the match is decided by your two leads. It's a video game and being able to do fun stuff is the most important part.
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>>59169814
Thats what the early trailers promised
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>>59169758
Kanga has bad matchups, you need an alternative mega to use alongside her like Zard Y. She's also slow, use Tailwind or Trick Room, even both.
Fake Out and Double Edge are your bread and butter.
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>>59169792
she doesn't get PuP anymore. also i was kind of hoping for some more specific advice. i have arcanine for bulky intimidate but i don't really think he's working as a pivot. do i just need to run incin instead?
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>>59169821
It's gonna be unbalanced as all fuck, but it might be fun I guess?
>Mega Ray fighting Dynamax mons
>Dyna mons getting walled by someting Tera into an immunity
>Firing a Z-move into Dyna mons
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>>59169773
>>59169779
>>59169797
But fucking Avalugg is in...
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>>59169794
the fact you get swept by scrimblos tells me all i need to know
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>>59169802
>retards who never banned Tera
>>59169820
>Yeah mechanics that cause fun interactions are bad man
>fun interactions
Citation needed.
>should be boring matchup checks in-which 90% of the match is decided by your two leads.
Tera doesn't even change this problem.
>It's a video game and being able to do fun stuff is the most important part.
Being on the receiving end of an unexpected Tera because you guessed wrong is the worst shit in the world, Sucker Punch is already everywhere.
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>>59169506
>see's tattoo
>thinks of black men
You need to go back >>>/pol/
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>>59169827
>i have arcanine for bulky intimidate but i don't really think he's working as a pivot. do i just need to run incin instead?
I fucking love Arcanine, and have like 5 different sets sitting in HOME. But there's no reason to use the best dog pokemon ever created when Baracat is around
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>>59169794
Hard stuck 1400s behaviour
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>>59169821
Did it ever actually promise this?
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>>59169846
I never got swept by Scrimblos myself because they suck lol, I was just saying that's what this fag probably likes about it the most. it's actually a moot point about it being available to everyone because 90% of the time it's the restricted or Kingambit Teraing.
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>>59169865
If it’s something like kingambit terastalizing why wouldn’t you figure out which move you use the least and replace it with one that can hit its most common tera types
you know, like they do on high ladder
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>>59169847
>Being on the receiving end of an unexpected Tera because you guessed wrong is the worst shit in the world, Sucker Punch is already everywhere.
oh no my pvp game wasn't entirely scripted and predictable
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>>59169847
>Tera doesn't even change this problem.
It literally did. Even in higher powered formats braindead Pokemon like Calyrex-S got answered by tera Normal Fluttermane, Dragonite, or really anything under the sun that was able to punish the spam shit Gamefreak promotes.
>Being on the receiving end of an unexpected Tera because you guessed wrong is the worst shit in the world, Sucker Punch is already everywhere.
VGCs was open team sheet. If you hate the inconvenience factor it caused blame Gamefreak for not just having it built in to SV/Champions.
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How the fuck do I make Ceruledge work?
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>>59169769
>terasharting was actually reverse powercreep
Are you actually retarded? No really. Were you dropped on your head as a baby? You can't honestly be this deluded. The only thing that makes tera even remotely balanced is open team sheets.
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>tfw spending more time jewing on the gts than playing the game
Got my eternal floette and I've figured out an easy way to stock up on ursalunas to trade for whatever else I might need
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>>59169922
If you only used Tera offensively the retard is you. Of course though the best mechanics are the one that make numbers go big.
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>>59169905
It doesn't work without Tera.
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>>59169926
how do I get ursalunas...
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>>59169886
>prepares for flying-
OOPS IT WAS FAIRY TERA
OOPS IT WAS DARK TERA
>prepares for all 3-
Lol no Kingambit on this team
Tera is the most match-up fishing gimmick in the series and it's not close, it's not fucking fun
>>59169900
>teehee I love losing a coin flip that's so fun
The game doesn't need any more guessing games, and the mindgames it already has are cancerous/fine enough.
>>59169903
>Even in higher powered formats braindead Pokemon like Calyrex-S got answered by tera Normal Fluttermane, Dragonite, or really anything under the sun that was able to punish the spam shit Gamefreak promotes.
Yeah that totally has everything to do with leads deciding 90% of matches because you added a counter onto your lead that decides the match
retard
you could even say Tera excaberates the problem even further
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There’s a badge called Bottoms Collector
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>>59169698
I despise Teras
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>>59169959
How do you know gayboy?
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>>59169945
but i want it to
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tera in open team sheet is fine

ladder is not ots
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>>59169953
I know the only formats that you can play are the ones where you can spam stuff like Heat Wave Charizard like a monkey but Tera being only available on one Pokemon meant you had to carefully decide when to Tera and only made a Calyrex-S player have to think twice about spamming Astral Barrage not make the game literally unwinnable for him. Baiting out the tera was an actual skill that doesn't exist with Megas.
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>mfw game bad
>;-;
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>>59169953
>>59169977
> Man who only likes eating oatmeal for breakfast fighting with man who likes to eat something new every morning
You two are never going to agree and neither of you are going to let the other "win". Just walk away
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new to this whole competitive thing, I’ve been having success with a sandstorm team but feel like some of my extras aren’t pulling their weight
my core is:
>Tyranitar (Mega)
>Corviknight (Tailwind setter)
>Excadrill (Sand Rush speedster)
>Clefairy (tanky mon to switch into)
what are some other mons I could add/what’s some other utility I might need?
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>>59169967
Because serebii added a list, but those bussys need to know I’m collecting
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>>59169974
Ladder is miserable regardless of format. It's even more miserable when the game says no to fun gimmicks.
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>go to make a team
>absolutely must have dedicated answers for both mega Charizard and mega Floette or you auto lose
Megas are a semen slurper mechanic soz not soz
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>>59169953
tl;dr: "I'm scared that the opponent will be better at mindgames than I am :("
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>>59169981
Garchomp to garchompuenly chomp it up with that unique Gar flair
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>>59169977
Your entire point hinges on the idea that somehow dumb shit like spammable strategies don't exist in Tera formats and are uncounterable in non-Tera formats when that's not even close to being the case
Champions is a free game, go play it and tell me how many issues you have with Charizard Y (not even close to being the biggest threat in the meta) Heat Wave spam
Also implying that Tera can't also lead to dogshit spam mons kek
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How is Sun developing right now? Feels like everyone is running counters to Zard specifically or the meta is simply catching up.
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>>59169980
Timmy's who pretend to be anything else is just annoying. Remove fun universal gimmicks to replace with stupid overpowered mechanics that only select Pokemon are able to use is so dumb and I can't understand why anyone past the age of 13 would find this shit entertaining.
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>>59169986
>hurr durr mindgames are so fun we should add another 10 moveslots to every Pokemon and make moves with 100 BP that go through protect, moves that grant immunity to types (that also deal damage), and moves that raise 3 stats at once
It's complex so it should be better
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>>59170009
Mindgames are the only thing remotely skillful about this game and most competitive players find skill expression more fun than playing go fish.
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>No Scovillain
>No Cha
>No Clefable
Guess I'll use Rage Powder Volcarona
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>>59169743
Damn, not a single one of those ones interests me. Still, I'd like to give them all a go.
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>>59170012
No one said remove Sucker Punch, Protect, or the ability to switch dumbfuck
Tera's an absurd gimmick
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>>59170012
Mind games stop being mind games as you add variables and it starts just being a clusterfuck.
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>>59170013
I ran into Mega Clef for the first time yesterday. I have no idea what it's meant to do, the partner TR'd and it got off a single dazzling gleam and died.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HYjl6XKbjrQ
last half the video has some fun teams
mega camerupt
crab
delphox/garde
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>>59170019
Adding more variables changes things from 50/50s into 66% chances and so forth which is where the actual skill comes in. Baiting your opponent into exhausting resources only matters if the resources are expensive which is why Tera is so valuable. That doesn't happen with Megas.
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>>59170038
Mega is way more expensive than Tera
>running 2 Megas means you have a dead item in case you need to bring both
>Mega dying on a switch-in due to a bad read means you didn't even get to use it
>Mega you use can't run an item in the first place so no Herb/Choice/Sash/Cloak
Tera can be pulled out of your ass at any occasion and lasts the whole game. In fact, it is objectively the least expensive gimmick in the series. Even Dynamax only lasts 3 turns.
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I'm thinking
Floette
Pelipper
Archaludon
Whimsicott
Sneasler
Hisuian Typhlosion
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>>59170051
>dead item in a meta with barely any items
kek
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>>59170063
I don't have Floette but I really liked using Hisui Typhlosion on this team
>Sneasler
>Kingambit
>Typhlosion
>Basculegion
>M Tyranitar
>Excadrill
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>>59170069
>White Herb
>Scarf
>Sash
>type boost item
>Sitrus Berry
>Lum Berry
All good items.
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>>59170051
All of those issues are solved in teambuilding. Mega Evolutions are not expensive at all and isn't something you can bait out. It's simply something you accept and acknowledge in team preview. Tera changes your type which, for many Pokemon, basically turns them into something completely different. Both opponent's functionally are given one extra Pokemon and using that properly is necessary to win against an actual skilled player.

Yes Tera can be used to run dumb stuff like Tera Steel Gholdengo + Perrserker but not only is that basically built in to all the competitive Megas that Tera Steel also comes with actual drawbacks like Gholdengo now being able to get hit with Fake Out or using Tera yourself to out it and completely reverse the momentum.
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>>59170051
NTA but no one is running two megas and if you do, its because you can't bring your whole team in the first place and build around that.

You choosing to switch in your mega in on a bad call is the equivalent of switching in your tera pokemon on a bad call. Nothing changes from getting out played there

You having built in stats increases just shy of the choice items + new abilty is that item. Just because that mon they have a mega doesn't mean other mons can't run heal bell / hold those same items.
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>>59170082
I'm being nice and assuming he's talking about XY or SM. Not in this current format in which the items are so ass there's no excuse. It's laughable to me how stuff like Covert Cloak aren't in the game and just allows the worst of Megas to be allowed in the same format as an Incineroar with the counterplay removed.
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is megazygarded in this yet
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>>59170093
No. I don't think any legendaries are in this game period.
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>>59169996
That's because Sun is the easiest weather to pilot, and therefore the most popular, so everyone has an answer fot it. Also, Sun has like 5 different ways to play it. I like the soft Trick Room Sun team myself.
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>>59170096
I think Eternal Floette is considered a mythical pokemon but no actual legends in the game yet.
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>>59170019
>protect
>”predicting a switch out” aka selecting the wrong move to see if you get lucky
>pokemons “best” Tera type is some random type to act as a defensive play, instead of a cool offensive play that makes a niche move in a mons movepool viable
>predicting the predictions ur opponent will predict to do and their play (read: make a bad play that might randomly be really good)
>predicting the predictions ur opponents predicting you will predict… ad infinitum

I guess at high level play when you can depend on ur opponent knowing what’s going on, you can maybe read their thought process, but with low level or new players who don’t know what’s up, you can’t really rely on them to make the “right choice” (the wrong choice but a prediction)

3 100 percent accurate attacks with type coverage and 1 utility move is my goto, then just click the one that says super or extremely effective.
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>>59170084
>Mega Evolutions are not expensive at all and isn't something you can bait out
You and me have very different definitions of expensive. Expensive means opportunity cost. Getting to choose on the fly at any time for which Pokemon you will Tera is very low opportunity cost. It's getting to send in your 5th Pokemon AFTER selecting your main 4.
Again, this also hinges on the idea that "baiting out a Tera" is a good thing and fun for either party. Aka hoping they guess wrong. Aka matchup fishing.
>you "bait out a tera" (send out your 25/25/25/25 Pokemon and make them guess, pray you yourself guessed right)
You won at sheets because they guessed wrong.
>you "don't bait out a tera" (you both guessed wrong or you guessed wrong)
You actually have to play the game further, and now you have to continue playing the Tera guessing game.
Tera is the most dogshit gimmick in the franchise, again, it's not close.
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>>59169864
It promised at minimum Megas and Teras simultaneously
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>>59170086
>NTA but no one is running two megas
Many Master Ball teams and teams that win tournaments are running two megas.
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>>59170075
Interesting. I'll check it out.
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In a year the people defending the honor of megas forcing Floette/Charizard/delphox+support teams will be crying that every game is Kyogre/Groudon/Rayquaza+support teams
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>>59170130
You keep crying about Charizard of all things lmao, it's not even that good
It's playable and good, but not meta warping
Floette's the only cancer meta atm, and Delphox too but only because it's ZA exclusive
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>>59170115
>Again, this also hinges on the idea that "baiting out a Tera" is a good thing and fun for either party. Aka hoping they guess wrong. Aka matchup fishing.
It's hard to explain since I'm 90% sure you've never competed in a VGC tournament during SV, but it's not matchup fishing if you actually establish ways to win even against inopportune Teras. A Tera Normal Fluttermane doesn't make Calyrex-S or whatever completely useless. It means you need to prioritize exhausting the Tera first, which, for good players who don't just click the super effective button, means you're able to prolong the game long enough to get a coherent strategy. The biggest issue with VGC is that games simply last too quickly for genuine skill expression to be had and the only mechanic that even slightly tried to implement a defensive counterplay is Tera. You're way more prone to losing to braindead when they can't get immediately punished for it and lose their wincon on the spot.
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How do you beat faggotbridge and pelican teams? The fact that they can just brainlessly click tailwind and electro shot while I have to fucking jump through hoops just to attempt to stay alive makes me not want to play this shit.
And no, I am not interested in making a weather team.
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>>59170141
Charizard Y is objectively one of the strongest and most common megas by any metric, you can for sure play around it but you can play around any meta and you can play around Kyogre and Groudon too
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>>59170130
Unrestricted formats suck. I don't think this is controversial. The pushed megas being restricted legendaries also makes games not a fun experience.
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>>59170145
Stopped playing for the same reason. Beating sun and sand is pretty easy without weather but rain feels almost impossible. Weather is one of the most braindead archetypes out there.
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>>59170145
if you change the weather, bridge is a sitting duck
peli is slow and is outpaced by everything. just blow him up.
he can't click tailwind and wide guard and hurricane your guy all at once. force his hand.
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man I regret choosing a male avatar
90% of the customization options are for females
>can't change the gender later
fucking WHY, it's the fucking woke age just let me rectify my mistake
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>>59170157
>Unrestricted formats suck. I don't think this is controversial
The point is they are the same as mega format.
>what mega/restricted am I using
>what support Pokemon do I need to enable mine to win the game
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>>59170164
Beating braindead dogshit by resorting to braindead dogshit and constantly partaking in weather wars isn't fun though. I should just stop playing.
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>>59170166
do you regret being a man in real life because women have more options?
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I can’t make Hydrapple work Q_Q
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>>59170164
>change the weather
I don't want to make a weather team. Every time I've tried to use something like Ninetales it just dies when I send it out and then they just bring back Pelipper and we're back to square one except now I have no weather.
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>>59170170
True. The power level of this format is way too high for how restricted everything is. There's almost nothing you can do to counterplay all the broken stuff.
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Shitting on people with AEROY the Aerodactyl I got from Crystal VC release is fucking funny to me.
It's just some ingame teade mon. As a matter of fact, the trainer wants a fucking Chansey for it.
It's been sitting in my game forever. And now, it's wrecking niggas online.
I love this game.
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>>59170166
Are you fucking gay? Why do you care about clothes? Only men can aura farm and have any sort of intimidation factor and that's the only psychological part that matters.
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>>59170051
Tera is a great mechanic but I do agree that tera type should be shown at team preview, I think that makes tera a lot more fun to play.

I know open team sheets is “unintended” and they only do it because tournament scouting is unfair otherwise but some good came from it, and tera preview is one of the most important. I hope tera preview is something Champions standardizes when they bring tera back.
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>>59170181
I don't like the gay starter hair and literally every other option is for zoomers and women
at least if I picked the cute girl I could've dressed up a cute girl
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>>59170181
>thinks his teenager avatar wearing a hoodie or tracksuit is going to aura farm
kek
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>>59170171
Cry me a river.
Oh no, you have to use the meta to beat the meta.
If something off meta beat it, it wouldnt be off meta.

I dont know about you, but i don't find fun in losing.
The fun in the game comes from using your knowledge to outplay your opponent starting from the team builder.
You can still use silly mons but respect the meta enough to be competent.

>>59170176
You don't need a hard weather setter.
You can surprise your opponent by setting it manually.
The good thing about manual weather is your team doesn't need to play in the weather to work.
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>About to clean up with Mega Meganium
>Aerodactyl Ice Fang freezes me on its way out
>keep my cool and only call him a nigger 3 times out loud
>thaw on the 2nd turn and mega sol synthesis past a team core that can't do more than 25-30% a turn to her, win out
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>>59170145
Sneasler or strong Ground STAB
Emergency Weather user
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>>59170196
I agree the options suck, but still why do you want to play as a female? They aren't even attractive unless you're a pdf who should hang themselves.
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>>59170197
Weather wars aren't fun. When the meta is weather wars I don't want to play it. It's a boring minigame that makes the game stupidly overcentralized on one Pokemon and boring overall.
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This thing and Volcarona being in Champions automatically makes Showdown infinitely better.
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>kills my pokewife instead of forfeiting in grace
so rude
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I wish we could pick different types of trainers like PBR
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>>59170204
>100% of the clothes, poses, accessories, etc look good on female avatars
>20% look good on the male avatar
gee I wonder why
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>>59170215
Arch was only ok for a few days and Volc would be NU if there were tiers in champions. Literally everyone is clocking rockslide.
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>>59170224
The female options look like shit. What are you talking about? Everyone in this game looks like the nerdiest 12 year old. Again, are you a faggot?
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>>59170215
Sneasler is everywhere and murders this thing, how do you guys have problems with it
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How would he fare in the current meta?
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>>59170234
they will tell you
>b-b-but i dont wanna run sneasler, how do i out arch??
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>>59170238
He'd be amazing on my mono normal team if nothing else.
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>>59170240
Arch fucking sucks. Even neutral special hits will end it
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>>59170230
anon, please, use your brain. if I were a faggot I'd be all over the male avatar.
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>>59170234
I hate that furbait faggot but how does Sneasler out Archaludon? I doubt it oneshots it.
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>>59170230
>Everyone in this game looks like the nerdiest 12 year old.
I fail to see the problem
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>>59170215
you cannot be this mad over the bridge lmao
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>>59170247
Sorry, I guess you're just a pdf then. Find the nearest noose is the only solution I have for you.
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>>59170249
>I doubt it oneshots it.
Oh it very much does.
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>>59170255
I forget that fucker has 130 base Attack I keep just hating it for Dire Claw.
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Literally nobody should be selecting the female trainer until there are hag options.
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>>59170145
Bait and switch into your own auto weather setter or Cloud Nine Drampa so you can set up while they’re locked into Electro Shot.
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>>59170254
you're telling on yourself anon
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>>59170262
based take, give me kitt body type
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>>59170264
I like moms. I can't get the appeal of the uwu girl shit unless you're gay especially since they all are and look like 12 year olds.
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>>59170173
A little bit. Dresses seem like they'd be very comfortable.
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>>59170270
What's your opinion on Tatora?
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>>59170274
>I'm a tranny
Yeah I knew that, I just wanted it known.
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>>59170270
>he literally can't imagine someone not gooning to pixels
kek
pathetic
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>>59170249
It's a oneshot if Archie doesn't have any Def/HP investment, otherwise it's a 50/50
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I've been stuck on the first slice of Great Ball 1 for the past five days now. I don't think tryhard Pokemon is for me.
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>>59170275
NTA
She's hot in a fuckable downie kinda way
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>>59170274
Just wear baggy shirts idiot. Being a man is infinitely better than being a woman go do any sort of athletic activity once and you'll understand.
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>>59170278
Why the fuck do you want the female option if you're a man if not to goon? Everyone in this game looks retarded male or female. You're a man so just pick the default man and move on.
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>>59170220
Yeah I hate how the game forces you to be a little girl instead of giving you some variety
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>>59170280
WHat team?
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>>59170280
Copy a good team with a mon you like on it and once you get good enough you can make your own edits
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The trainer body with big tits will be a premium battle pass item
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>>59170275
Too young. I don't like her soulless eyes either. Only thing I like about her is her hairstyle and baggy clothes.
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>>59170288
my guy, we've been over this: >>59170224
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>>59170220
true, this is supposed to be THE VGC game for years to come, let people express themselves better
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>>59170298
Interesting. Thank you for sharing anon
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>>59170280
Use Sneasler and Kingambit, I got to U4 within the first day and just clearing my dailies + a little more playing
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>>59170299
They don't look good on them either though wtf are you talking about? They are shit hyper-expressive styles and outfits because the company doesn't know how to produce genuine soul, and they are plastered into dorky 12 year olds on top of that.
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>>59170319
ok anon, you win. I'll leave you to goon to your male avatar in peace
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>>59170280
Doubles or Singles? Singles is a clown format.
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>>59170097
Is Farigiraf the only meta viable pokemon people don't complain about?
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>they look 12
out of ten
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>>59170330
Someone was complaining about tr torkoal with it yesterday lol
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>>59170330
I haven't seen anyone complain about Heat Rotom despite being really good.
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>Random Mudsdale faggot in Great Ball 1
These people cannot be real
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>>59170358
You're in great ball, what did you expect?
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>>59170358
>this guy doesn't know about the bots
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Is Avalugg any good right now
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>>59170362
>>59170367
The best part is that I lead wrong and his Sinistcha dodged 3 attacks with Bright Powder and he got the win and I think it should be legal to slit his throat
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>>59170330
It's pretty annoying but it loses to Incineroar which every team runs.
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>>59170343
Not even top 10 fire type pokemon in this game right now
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>>59170371
lmfao
wait seriously?
LMFAO
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>>59170375
You should have at least said Top 3 to make it arguable
Incineroar is undisputed best but you can put Rotom H above Zard Y or MDelphox
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>>59170377
A certain slut told me to use my favorites, a long time ago
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>>59170180
Based Aerobro. Mine is usually just there to set Tailwind and maybe Rock Slide, but getting Dual Wingbeat off against a Sneasler feels great.
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>>59169814
If they did this, would you be limited to one gimmick per side? Like you can use a Mega or Tera but not both at the same time, using one locks you out of the others.
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I don't understand how people can switch Pokemon every single turn and have the perfect match to eat all my attacks while my shitters that have been trained to max bulk can't even afford a turn of setup without dying to somebody having the perfect out.
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>>59170391
what about my tera fairy mega floette though
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>>59170282
why? because of boobs? otherwise I don't see why it matter at a personal level.
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>>59170396
are you talking about singles or doubles?
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I play with a female character and I imagine that every time I loses I get mating pressed by the other trainer. Gives me extra incentive to try harder to win because I'm not gay.
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>>59170406
Just do anything remotely resembling physical intense activity and ask a woman to do it. You'll understand immediately unless the Internet has destroyed your brain that badly.
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>>59170410
based and absolutely not gay
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>>59170391
That's probably how it will work. Maybe Z moves will be allowed since they were allowed alongside megas in gen VII, I think. Also because they would be outclassed by Dynamax in 90% of cases otherwise.
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>>59170410
Stuck in Great Ball Rank 1, might try this as well
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>>59170330
kek I just beat a Farigiraf, Klefki, Alcremie, Mega Dragonite team with Alolan Ninetales, Slowbro, Galarian Slowking, and Machamp. :)
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>>59170421
Are you just saying because women are physically weaker? Because that's not a huge deal in the current age unless you're forced to work manual labour.
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winstreaked up to Ultra Ball 3 from Great Ball 2 so far, I love playing in the rain. It's a shame Pelipper is so much better than Politoed, and that I haven't even rolled a 'toed yet.
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>>59170439
this post made me realise my favourite pokemon is poliwhirl
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>>59170409
Doubles, who plays singles?
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>>59170439
Politoed is pretty much only good in perish trap teams. Big sad.
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>>59170452
The majority of japanese players. More than half my games in Master Ball tier have been against nips.
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>>59170433
Massive cope, anyways you'll feel the superiority yourself. Being a woman would suck constantly doing everything worse than a man.
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>want to import my bros stuck on 3ds (physical cart)
>my NNID (the one on my nintendo account and needed to access Bank) is linked permanently to my original 3ds, which I lost years ago
would I be fine just making a new NNID and linking that one to my switch account? Do I lose out on anything?
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>>59170450
He's been my favorite for a long time. Incredibly pleasant mon, it's like the perfect design. I collect all his TCG cards and the semi-frequent plushies he gets, I think most people flip flop on their favorite mon(s) over the years but I've consistently had him #1 in my heart since at least Gen 5.

>>59170454
It's a real shame too, powercreep aside, this meta reminds me a lot of BW weather wars. If the 'toed can't shine right here and now, it's not looking good for future updates. To say nothing of Poliwrath who I enjoyed a lot in Gen 7 VGC (last time I tried to play any VGC format before now), poor fella has some stiff competition between the Basculegion(s) and Mega Starmie.
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>>59170421
Yes they're much weaker but you're missing a much more important thing. They're also mentally completely fucked. Overgrown children who will completely rewrite their own memory in real time to avoid responsibility and place the blame on anyone and anything but themselves. The ability to just remove their morals and empathy on a whim if those might inconvienience them in some way. An inhibility to control themselves through the use of logical analysis when emotion or instinct tell them otherwise. The constant need to compete with other woman every single day in every aspect of their lives. And above all the fact that they're unaware of all of this and simply do it unconciously. Being a woman mentally is a fate worse than death.

-Looking- like a woman however is basically a lifehack since you gain all of their strengths and none of their weaknesses. I think that's what the majority of people actually mean when they say they wish they were one. They don't really want to be one, they just wanna look cute like one.
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>>59170439
I had a lot of fun all those years ago in XY using Drizzle Politoed with Rotom-W on a team with Mega Scizor.
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Any fellow Rhyperior enjoyers? Homie got me to Master Ball doubles (well, one of the mons). He takes up the entire screen, it is kind of funny. I haven't run into another person using him. Fuck you wide gaurd Pelliper, big peepeepoopoo. I can at least fire punch stuff like gallade.
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>>59170452
>who plays singles?
People who hit master ball in doubles and want a break
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I wouldn't care about the limit team slots and box space, but having only 3 team slots to work with is so ass. Why is this company so fucking greedy.
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>>59170486
>inhibility
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>>59170501
Why not run HHP and Lightningrod if your goal is to shut down Arch-Pelipper faggots?
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>>59170501
I will never forgive game fre*k for taking away my eviolite rhydon
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>>59170486
Being cute is a farse and entirely performative once you hit adulthood regardless of your gender. Being transgender is even more of a farse and an inhibition of being a male, and that's assuming you can even pull of being performatively cute. Growing up is realizing that aging is healthy instead of constantly trying to be a perpetual child mentally. The only women that are genuinely worthwhile are the ones that embrace their age and act accordingly.
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>>59170525
Adult women can be cute until their 40s where then it just becomes meh
After that if they live long enough and are pleasant enough they can be uglycute old ladies, but that also applies to old men if they're vulnerable enough
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>>59170525
>farse
ESL
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>>59170528
Your definition of cuteness is fucked up, presumably because of the disgusting porn you consume.

I've seen some hot 60 year old women, and as a man you can have a healthy sex life until that age. Cuteness is something that results out of genuine innocence which stops for everyone once they hit adulthood except for the most extreme autists or other forms of mental disabilities.
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>>59170501
based rhyperiorGOD
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>>59170204
>pdf
youtube comment sections are more your speed, pedophile
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>>59170541
Imagine not being able to appreciate a cute smile or cute dimples. Your life must be hell.
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>>59170521
I ironically don't have problems with this duo. I don't think I have run into a wide guard pelliper paired with an archaludon yet. If I wanted to be evil I could run thunder punch. Don't think a pelliper would survive instruct + thunder punch. Fire punch is mainly for corv and the cup. Which I barely run into. Most of my troubles stem from Incineroar, FUCK YOU. That and wide gaurd and imprision firagarif.

>>59170522
Rip. I am just happy I get to use this Rhyperior I originally Masuda'd for in SwSh and never used, because I had a bad experience in doubles in that game. I hit Masterball like twice in singles, but fucked up my doubles team. Bright side, is my Rhyperior put in some work on champions :) My dumbass didn't breed it or my hattrene with no good speed. It wasn't at 0.

I am tempted to run Heat Crash over fire punch now. I just saw rhyperior gets that.
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>>59170541
I'm talking about 80 year olds and women can still be sexy in their 40-60s anon
I typically don't see 40+ ladies as cute since they're too mature and deserve more respect than being called cute but I know plenty of cute adult girls
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>take my turn
>camera shows my trainer thinking
cute
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so what happens if you close the game during team selection? can i just force quit the app and go do something else for like 10 minutes instead of playing against faggots with faggot teams? asking for a friend
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>>59170548
That type of cuteness, if you can call it that, exists in both men and women. The cope that looking like a woman will magically make you cute is still delusional because transgenderism is inherently deceitful and will remove all innocence from that smile.
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>>59170564
>if you can call it that
I'm so embarrassed for you. Trannies are disgusting freaks, but it doesnt change how the word "cute" works.
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Time for Kitt's daily nakadashi
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>>59170564
I don't call men cute because that's gay. As a straight man, everything about the adult woman's form when properly maintained and proportioned is adorable if they're small, and sexy if they're big.
Furthermore, happiness and kindness is cute in women and cool in men.
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>>59170288
>Everyone in this game looks retarded male or female.
Speak for yourself, they haven't let you make a male avatar that doesn't look like a faggot dweeb since X and Y.
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>>59170583
They look fucking retarded. The women also look like fucking idiots in every game after gen 6 and the only reason I can assume you don't think that is for gooning purposes.
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>>59170583
c-cute...
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>>59170569
I see cute as being someone who is genuinely innocent and playful which starts to cease once you're an adult and only can re-emerge once you have children. Looking like a woman doesn't help you with that at all. Sexy might be physical but cuteness is almost entirely based on the soul.
>>59170580
I don't call anybody outside of children cute. Even adorable feels like slander. Being kind as your natural state is necessary for being a person worth anyone's time.
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>>59170617
>old women cant be cute
ESLanon please stop. Just consider this a learning moment and move on.
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>>59170590
>dissing Chicken-chan
Opinion disregarded, Gen VIII and especially IX girls do look boring as hell though, SV in general just has godawful character designs scattered everywhere.
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>>59169430
I'm not a competitive player, will I still be able to have fun transferring my Home mons or is it going to look like Marathon when I try to play online?
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>>59170619
Is Mother Teresa considered cute? That's about the only situation I can imagine being possible.
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Let's have a private match so I can finish my starter missions
Room ID: 5443 3570
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>>59170625
I don't know who the fuck Chicken-chan is but if you mean the girl from SM she looks just as much of a dork as the male character in SM. Both of them look like generic 12 year olds which will always look like a dork.
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>>59170627
As I said, ESLanon, please just stop. You have learned how to use the word "cute" properly today. Accept that and move on.
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>NOOOO OTS GACHA SLOP
I have no home, only played champions and used the ressources available as a f2p.
Literally the most friendliest f2p game.
>NOOOOO I NEED MY CHARIZARDINOOOO
It's available as a starter mate
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>>59170634
You haven't given any criteria for being cute. That being said I don't really care as long as you understand that cutting your dick off and trying to wear girl clothes isn't how you're going to be cute.
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>>59170636
Post Team my nigger
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>>59170644
>you havent given any criteria
It's an actual word with an actual definition. You don't just say shit and make up your own definition later.

>you're going to be cute
I'm not the tranny. I've told you trannies are disgusting. That's all irrelevant to how fucking retarded you are. And you care deeply, otherwise you'd just shut the fuck up and go play Pokemon already. Retard.
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>>59170633
She's cute and has good options to pick from that aren't all locked behind completing the Alola Dex in USUM
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>>59170650
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>>59170651
>attractive or pretty especially in a childish, youthful, or delicate way
Definition. Once you reach beyond adulthood this is performative and not the natural state of a woman or anyone for that matter.
>otherwise you'd just shut the fuck up and go play Pokemon already. Retard.
This format is dogshit weather spam with no items why would I play it?
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>>59170665
Look up what "or" means, ESLanon.

>I come into Champions threads to rant about trannies in my second language that I barely understand how to use
Baffling use of your limited life.
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>>59170655
That doesn't look cute at all that just looks fucking stupid. Here, have something actually cute.
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>>59170636
>>59170663
>Charizard
Doesn't count
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>>59170677
froge
I think you just don't like cute girls bro
sorry to hear
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>>59170663
how the fuck do you npcs have fun playing like this?
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>>59170663
My retarded ass gave Venusaur energy ball. I completely forgot Leaf Storm exists as an option for Solarbeam.
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>>59170685
I have fun by winning.
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>>59170674
If you mean delicate as in frail than most women are to men. I doubt that's what they mean though because every woman in the world is cute and aspiring to be that as a man only makes you a target which was the case for the original poster wanting to transition.
>Baffling use of your limited life.
Playing this dogshit game was a bigger waste of my life. Even this conversation where you're half-engaging to act smart was more stimulating than dealing with a 50/50 sun spam vs rain spam.
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>>59170685
>plays game focused on competitive side of Pokemon
>whines when people use competitive Team
Get a load of little Timmy over here.
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>>59170697
Alright have a goodnight. Your people simply don't have the capacity for reason, it seems.
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>>59170697
>>59170674
>>59170665
>>59170651
Hey don't know if you retarded autists are aware but you've been arguing for an hour and this has nothing to do with Champions or Pokemon
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>>59170681
I don't think about it. I can't even understand the mind of someone who thinks about it all the time even if I found this stuff cute and not just really gay psuedo-fashion.
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>>59170703
NTA but the most fun part of comp is teambuilding and it kinda sucks in Champions, at least right now.
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>this guy is back again
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>>59170663
Is haban berry for opposing Garchomp or am I missing something?
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>>59170708
If the most fun part of a game is teambuilding that's because theorycrafting is more fun than actually playing the game. Notably, that's the sign of a bad game. Also worthy to note that Champions also feels shit to actually play so it's awful either way.
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anti timmy strategy: switch
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>>59170714
BING BING we have a winner
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>>59170731
Incin + Venusaur seems like more than enough to check it but also this game is atrocious and lacks any good items so good work king.
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>>59169533
Managed to hatch one in just 12 eggs
Gonna use this guy to rape Froslass and Delphox with Sucker Punches
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>>59170704
I'm grateful I'm not wh*te otherwise I'd be thinking about cutting my dick off all day and sucking Israel's dick.
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>>59170737
No way they actually die to Sucker Punches. Infiltrator with Psychic Fangs also feels weird but I'm assuming you're tweaking the moveset.
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>>59170685
I always hear how the big brained VGC world champs will show up and debut some secret team where they turn their pokemon inside out to win. Do people just keep their cards close to their chest or something
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>>59170746
Ladder is a disadvantage to good players. It's better to just understand you are simply better than your surroundings and to let the element of surprise grant you victory.
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>>59170746
Season1 of champions doesn't leave much room for creativity, right now weather wars dominate.
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>>59169628
It looks like the other two who replied to you didn't play SV or just forgot. Bisharp evolves not by level up but by having it kill 3 Wild Bisharps surrounded by Wild Pawniard. Because this is post SwSh when they started making more convoluted evolutions. So yes, your 100 Bisharp can still evolve
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>>59170629
>>59170629
>>59170629
Please join
I've been waiting for 30 minutes
I just need one match
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>>59170745
Infiltrator ignores Aurora Veil, so Phantom Force can rape Froslass if its stupid enough to setup or try to Protect the turn after, Psychic Fangs cleans up after, and helps remove Sneasler
Sucker Punch helps pick off either after chip
My Whimsicott and Torkoal both run Helping Hand to give all 3 attacks some extra oomph
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>>59170663
Blud just added the strongest sheist together and called it a day.
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Should I go HP or Speed investment on Scarf Basculegion?
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>>59170761
Cool stuff. I saw it as redundant at first but I understand it now. Good luck anon.
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>opposing kingambit is burned
>alternating and mixing up protects, he gets it wrong every time
>sitrus'd up to a point where sucker punch under wisp shouldn't even kill me
>he just. keeps. clicking it.
>about to die to the remaining mon who's been chipping away at me, i have to press an attack
>7th or 8th consecutive sucker punch under will'o
>crit
i got ranked down over this. done for the week. I love this mon, I hate its users.
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>>59169628
>>59170755
Any Pokemon who evolves by level up can use a Rare Candy to do it at level 100 since Gen 8, except Tandemaus who specifically needs to level up in battle.
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>>59170763
Shit works. Don't blame him for the fact that this game is terrible with an extreme power vacuum.
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>>59170767
skill issue desu
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>person mega evolves
>I mega evolve
>I go first
>their mon survives by like 1 HP somehow
>one shots me
>one shots my next mon
>my last mon goes first and somehow they dont go down despite being at 1 HP????
>lose
Welp, I shouldve figured hackers would be a thing given its a switch 1 game. Hope that doesnt become common.
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>>59170763
This is the no need to think list, just clicl buttons and win.
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>>59170774
Are you familiar with the Focus Band
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>>59170727
Teambuilding is the most fun part of pokemon in general.
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>>59170629
>>59170757
Room closed
Thanks Jonathon
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>>59170757
GG, Confusion absolutely punked my shit. Glaad to get that mission out of the way as well.
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>>59170782
Teambuilding is fun but actually playing in a not awful metagame is more fun because your team will be unable to win just by the matchup but rather the use of interesting synergies/outplays. Notably this isn't the case with Champions and honestly only was the case in gen 9 because of Tera.
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>>59170774
What was it, what attack did you use on it, and did this >>59170779 happen
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>>59170663
ditch basculegion for whimsinigger, theres also no point to having solar power on charizard if you don't have other sunny day setters, it just costs you hp when you want to hold your drought.
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>>59170767
If it had been Kowtow Cleave instead of Sucker Punch you’d have been dead 5 times over, you act like it’s a broke coin toss but it’s only a coin toss if the priority mattered because you could knock it out before it hit. 6 turns in against it statusing it to death is like setting up on a mon that parahax’s 6 turns in a row and then getting mad it can actually move on the 7th
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Hey girls, I made it! Ignore the 6-Win Streak!
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>>59170789
Pokemon SV is so fucking good.
Never had as much fun playiny comp than any other game. Only campaignshitters whine about SV.
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>>59170797
Well done anon
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>>59170798
SV had a better campaign than most modern Pokemon games. At least the DLC was half decent. It deserved to fail but I must admit it's the only Pokemon game I had a semblance of fun in since ORAS.
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>>59170797
Post your team my nigger
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>>59170789
terra is coming back in winds
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i don't know if you will ever read this, but huge shoutout to the belliboltbro, your team carried even me to master with my shitty skills
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look at this sociable boy
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>>59170764
Look up speed tiers and see what I want to outspeed.
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>>59170807
What are these titles good for?
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>>59170808
speed, if you come up against another scarf basc, then losing the speed race can cost you the game
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>>59170811
flexing
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>>59170811
Another cosmetic you can collect for bragging rights, alongside shininess, ball variety, and size. There’s no difference mechanically between a regular Garchomp and a XXL shiny Garchomp The Well-Trained in a Beast Ball, but the latter is how you show off to internet randos
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>>59170811
Nothing. SwSh introduced that mechanic where all Wild Pokemon have a small chance of having a title. Champions Recruiting kept it. It does nothing besides make shinyniggers want to hunt Shiny Pokemon with a Title
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>have a team
>wait I should put incineroar on there
>I need a tailwind setter
>better add that cotton fucker whimsicott
>wait I’ve got a problem, I need poison for fairies and something for steel walls
>sneaseler does both
>put all my shit together
>its just the top ranks
>I look like a metafag who just picks whatever team is popular when I went through 50+ battles ironing out the team’s weaknesses
fuck
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You know the recruit animation, with the silhouette behind the bushes? There was a sparkle sound and a glowing light behind it, what was that? Did I win something?
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>>59170828
Probably means one of the mons has a title or something.
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I’ve never felt like more of a cunt than I do using dire claw
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>>59170828
Idk, it happened to me yesterday but I didn't notice anything besides a Hippowdon with a title, and I've gotten plenty of titlemons without the sparkle.
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>>59170799
thanks anon-chan
>>59170804
o-okay sensei. I played a sun team before, but then I was hardstuck Ultra 1-2. So I just switched to Floette.
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>>59170826
Just use trick room and use whatever slow ass bulky shitter, but add Incenrior of course.
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My wife when I beat a Timmy's Charizard
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>>59170840
Kek, you guys just look up the most viable list of Pokemons and go with it.
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>>59170826
There are very few good Pokemon in the game and with megas it just becomes weather wars. The metagame is dogshit as a result and isn't your fault.
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>>59170845
Hey I tried to play honest with my nostalgia Charizard/Venusaur sun team! But then I had to play Floette... with Sneasler in the lead.

Basculegion is for rain teams, sinistcha and kingambit for trick fags and Garchomp as meta slave addition against chari.
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What's the point of the region setting? Is it only for online competitions?
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>>59170840
>mystic water over scarf
That thing gets one shotted by solat beam Charizard
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>>59170855
I don't use it against sun teams. I use my Garchomp instead.
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>>59170850
>Hey I tried to play honest with my nostalgia Charizard/Venusaur sun team!
So you switched from one meta team to another kek.
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>>59170853
You can't avoid the sleepless try hard japanese, lil Timmy.
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Lead mega Lopunny fake out / U Turn is so braindead but it allows for an easy climb
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>>59170860
You use a water attack boosting item on a mon that you only use against a team full of water resists?
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>>59170865
in doubles???
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>Swap White Herb for Sash on Sneed
>Suddenly everything only hits it for 70-80 damage

Most of the time the other guy isn't even attempting an anti-Sash strat.
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>>59170870
Singles. Haven't touched doubles yet
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>>59170869
Yep, when I see they have pelipper, I know whats up. 50% rain dmg + 20% mystic.
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I don't get switch moves like u-turn/parting shot/etc. All they do is shit damage/a minor stat drop only for the thing that gets switched in to get obliterated by your opponent unless you happen to have a random pokemon that randomly resists both of your opponent's attacks.
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>>59170878
Most good teams have something that resists whatever move is incoming in the back you brainlet
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>>59170878
Well duh, that's why Team synergy matters little Timmy. Also you need to know your best pairs and leads to favor yourself that's 50% of the outcome alone.
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>>59170826
>oh no, mons who are good in specific niches fit those exact niches on my team, how could this be happening to me
You're not a metafag, just a regular one
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I think I'm learning that competitive Pokemon is a meme.
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>>59170890
Depends on the game and what gimmick/items/mon are disposable to you.

Once Champions brings back Tera, it's gonna be sooooo much more fun.
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>>59170765
Thanks, anon o7
I also forgot to mention he's named after his Black Glasses + Infiltrator
Sneaky little fucker is peepin' in ALL your windows
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>>59170890
Gen 9 was the first time VGC was something remotely playable because of Tera and items that actually counter stuff like Incineroar and neither of them are in Champions.
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>>59170896
Champions made me realise how cancerous little shits Megas are.
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Sneasler + kingambit lead is cool.
>opponent with incin
>intimidate
>sneaslers herb thanks for the boost
>kingambits ability thanks for the boost
>I outspeed his fakeout and fakeout him
>My kingambit can do a boosted attack
GG
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>>59170898
Soul. All the Pokemon I like are either not in the game or not good so I stopped playing the game because I refuse to sell my soul and choose to actually have fun with the games I play.
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>>59170907
I loved doing battles in gen 6. I got tired of megas after 3 months. Hopefully we'll get more formats in the same timeframe
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>>59170917
Sneasler was a cancer in reg H and thankfully is here to be a cancer in Champions as well.
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>>59170806
Could you repost the team?
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>turn 2
ALL IS LOST
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>>59170922
This format is like gen 6 but with the cancerous shit from modern VGC still in the game. It's an especially curated hell.
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>>59170896
And as we leave Gen 9, with Champions, no gimmick will be gone forever.
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>>59170917
if someone is dumb enough to lead incin into an enemy team with both of those they deserve it lol
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>>59170877
You're outsped and one-shot by the Archaludon.
If you keep your Basc in the back, it will be outsped and one-shot by their Basc after one ally faint.
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There are quite a few videos on why Champions sucks from a casual perspective and they are all correct but are there any videos on why the Champions meta is terrible as well?
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>>59170948
Why are you seeking out people who are whining when you're already here?
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finally found the orange cat on recruitment...can I start winning now pls
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>>59170954
I need to watch videos that validate my opinion
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>>59170954
I want to cook and want to listen to a video about this like an audiobook.
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>>59170955
What orange cat? Is Garfield in Pokemon Champions???
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>>59170970
Why not listen on how to get better at VGC instead of whining like a sissy boi?
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Another day of stuck at Ultra ball 3...
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>>59170980
I'll get back into this game when tera is back or something akin to reg H for now I'm mad that I wasted 4 days of my life playing this shitty game and need something to validate my opinions before I listen to mommy asmr and go to bed.
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klefki has been my mvp on rain.
>occa berry
>dazzling gleam
>metal sound
>magnet rise
>rain dance
ttar can't do anything to it, chomps don't run fire, yzard can't beat its rain, sets up easy kills for meganium and arch.
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>>59170948
>too shit at the game to explain why he thinks the meta is bad himself
>wants to steal someone else's opinion instead
kill yourself
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>>59170992
Broken and pushed megas turn the game into stupid weather wars at best and spam STAB button at worst, no items means all the traditional counterplay to broken Pokemon like Sneasler and Incineroar no longer exist, and limited dex means I can't even use cool Pokemon I wanted to use like mega Scolipede. Now fuck off I want to listen to someone validate me while I make some pasta.
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>>59170989
>whims uses taunt
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>>59170939
Wait.. I need to keep this in mind. I could adjust my lead based on that fact. Mind games.

But I feel like those mind games and optimal play is only possible at high master / champion. (yes, I'm a noob) but still I feel like the game only gets fun when both players are at a certain level... just like in chess.
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>just want a Follow Me mon
>am stuck with Rage Powder Scovillain
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>>59171003
No one is at Champions. They didn't release that at day 1. Everyone is stuck at Master Rank
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>>59171013
Thank God for that. Makes uninstalling this shit game easier since I'm already at the highest rank.
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>>59171003
yea pretty much, if you're in grug bracket they're gonna see your team, see the defiant/competitive mons and the sneasler which really runs herb like 80% of the time at least

and then click incin as first slot anyways
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>>59171016
>t. 1600 Master Rank Rating
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>>59171012
Maushold is actually pretty decent, anon. It has both Friend Guard and Follow Me. You should give it a try.
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>>59171023
I got to 1900. Weather spam has made me lose my sanity. People are delusional by saying this game is strategic.
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>beat a retard on an 9 win streak with rng hax
BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA GET FUCKED
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>>59171029
>only 1900
Ranklet thinks he's good lmao
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>>59171049
whats top rank
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>>59171024
I WANT A MAUSHOLD
OR A CLEFABLE
BUT THE GACHA HASN'T GIVEN ME ANY
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Let me tell you why this free to play mobile game sucks ass and why you should kill yourself for having a fun time with it.
1. Introduction
Pokemon champions is a F2P competitive game that facilitates the aspect of competitive battling with its accessible features.
2. Argumentations
Megas are shit.
Meta is shit.
The roster is dogshit.
I am stuck in Ultra 2 because I like Typhlosion.

Examples: Charizard Y, Froslass, Dragonite and Blastoise in singles

3. Conclusion
Fuck Gamefreak, fuck TPC, fuck youuu.
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>>59170779
I'm not familiar with a focus band suddenly being on a mega pokemon in singles, no.

>>59170791
Mega Dragonite, I just clicked whatever since it was at 1 HP. It got hit and just did not go down.
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>>59171060
tldr: skill issue
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>>59171060
Little Timmy ass essay
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>>59171049
A monkey can be good at VGC. Play gen 9 6v6 if you want something that actually requires brain cells.
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>>59171060
You can get out of Ultra 2 by putting a Kingambit on your team. That being said you are 100% right. This format requires you to sell your soul.
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>>59171062
What precisely did you click, and with what?
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>>59171058
this is technically the worst gacha in existence when you think about it
>in order to guarantee the unit you want you have to BUY a COMPLETELY separate game and find the unit THERE
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>>59171060
>stuck in ultra 2 with the most unga bunga click the funny button mon in the game
>unironically complaining about non-tera Dragonite and fucking Blastoise
Post team and elo
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>>59171086
Technically, spending 70 whatever dollars for infinite copies of dozens of units is cheap for gacha space.
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>>59171086
More like
>guarantee the unit you want by simply trading it over from the game you already own
>no additional fees required
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>>59171097
this lol
70 won't even hit pity in a lot of gacha
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>>59171096
Mega blastoise in singles with shell smash is fucking broken who the fuck thought it was a good idea to let him keep shell smash with mega evo
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People are not mentioning enough how cancerous Tyrannitar is
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>>59171119
can you even make it out of great ball with that shitter?
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>>59171119
It's the shittiest (playable) weather starter and the only fair one.
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>>59171122
>>59171126
Are you deadass right now?
It tops every tournament right now and the top ranked Japanese players are all playing Sand.
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>>59171126
>only fair one.
Clicks rockslide like a brainlet retard
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one battle to master ball
wish me luck
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Team that won the 1000 dollar price tournament.
Absolute scheist
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>>59170806
post froggy team
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>>59171163
mega chadrizard wins again
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>>59171163
Tournaments have open spread format, cant compare with ladder
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>>59171184
in this meta it might as well be open spread
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>>59171184
Does it matter? Just add all the top ranked mons from the ladder and you can win a tournament as well.
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>>59171158
I wonners
all hail Rage Powder
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>think I won first turn
>I missclicked
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If i'm looking to pick up one of the newer pokemon games secondhand mostly for the storage space, which one should I get? Right now I only have access to BDSP so anything beyond gen 4 is basically wasting space in bank.
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>>59171211
skill issue
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>>59171221
Wouldn't it be scarlet/violet or legends Arceus?
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>>59171060
>I like Typhlosion
Massive red flag
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>>59171229
But what about ursaring?
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>>59171137
What's it doing that other weathers or even a generic goodmons team can't outspeed and clear it turn one?
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>>59171227
>legends Arceus
Meant ZA
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>>59171119
ttar hasn't been relevant in how long
let him have this
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I do not respect your team so I will not be forfeiting early.
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I just want my boy baxcalibur
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>>59171234
You use ttar to disrupt other weather teams. The sand also breaks sash and multiscale.
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This game is so fun.

Been running specially defensive incineroar with Snarl and Burning Jealousy and Coil Blizzard/Muddy water Milotic.
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>TIL the gender of basculegion actually matters stat-wise
Damn, guess I have to find myself a male one
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>>59171253
So if Charizard mega evolves and Ttar switches in, who's weather goes up with the priority changes? Did that ever get settled?
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>>59171272
Ttar
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>>59171253
I have been using M-Dragonite and this definitely discourages me from using more. Maybe it's time for me to try other megas
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>>59171271
I dunno man, sounds kinda gay
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>>59170826
that means you did it right i think
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>close the game
>new ideas pop up
>open the game
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>>59170878
My little nigger in christ, the idea is your switch move mon is slower (like vgc cat) so you get a free switch. Switching manually leaves you open to getting assblasted like you said.
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>>59170917
*leaves incin on the bench*
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>>59170878
Because you can u-turn with a bulky pokemon such as Corviknight. That way, Corviknight will take the hit and the switch out
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>>59170234
This + bulk investment.
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>>59170948
its too early to even know what the meta is and its likely to shift when actual pro players go to events
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>>59171060
>singles
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Speed nature on Mega Gengar to beat other MGengars or Modest for more damage
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>>59170917
>blocks your path
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>>59171377
love this nigga bird, physical attackers are bitches
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can i catch a clefable in pokemon red and transfer it over?
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>ran into a toxapex for the first time today
I understand what singles players are talking about now, holy fuck. This thing just wins turn 1 if you didn't bring something to deal with it.
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I can't wait to go to bed and play more matches from my phone
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>>59171374
tie other gengars always.
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I'm her to inform you Raichu randomly gets alluring voice. Do with that as you will.
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>>59171422
it's had that since s/v
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>>59171424
Damn, I now realize I never used my raichu in SV
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>Starter Pack
>Reaching Master
>Can fit 100 mons!!!
>100 mons is actually a joke
>Can't save 2 movesets for 1 mon
>Get a mon twice for 1s and 2s
>100 mons is actually a joke
>New season + 50 mons
>100 mons is actually a joke
I really want to like this game, I mean you can actually play this F2P, but JUST 30 mons is a joke... and why do Home mons take up space in home AND champions... like cmon nigga.

Also why the fuck is everything related to pokemon subscription based? Nigga fuck off I don't want to sub to home. And no I don't want to sub to champions, gimme an extra box for $4.99... fuck you.

And where the fuck are random RANKED battles? Is this a joke?

>be me
>play doubles
>ah I should try singles
>lemme readjust this mon
>that will be 1750 VP + tip, saar.
>nigga.jpg
>Okay I dont want to play singles anymore
>lets play doubles again.
>lemme readjust this mon
>2k + tip plz.

mfw.. kms
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>>59171433
The top ranked player doesn't even play singles.
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>>59170215
85 speed feels shockingly fast for a mon like that.
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>>59171272
>>59171289
switches happen before everything
ttar would get switched in proc sand stream then zard would mega and put up sun
its mega vs mega thats bugged, where normally the faster mon megas first but rn its random
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>>59171442
>where normally the faster mon megas first but rn its random
They fixed it, its back to being the fastest that megas first.
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>>59171447
It doesn't seem to work yet. I've been using mega beedrill but my opponent's greninja always mega evolves first despite me out speeding 100% of the time
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>>59171451
...anon, look at beedrill's pre-mega speed
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>>59171456
Oh, I thought it would use the mega's speed not the base mon's speed for some reason
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>>59171460
>I thought it would use the mega's speed
That was never the case
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>>59169430
Any guides on vgc? Been goofing around in the lower ranks but my rng has been bad
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I just tried using Incineroar..... heh. I don't think I'm going back.
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Holy shit hitting Master Ball in singles was sooooooo much easier than doubles
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>>59171506
i mean its just way easier in both formats after almost a week post release
anyone who knew shit capped their ranks long ago
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>>59171510
Not necessarily when everyone now has a ton of resources on what mons and team comps are actually good.
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>>59171163
Holy slop
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>>59170816
>>59170817
Best part is old ribbons now granting titles because of it.
>Dragonite the Triumphant
>Gyarados the Living Legend
Love this shit
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Hey girls, it's me again... I just want to play random battles. Current meta is just:
>Pick floette
>+ the 5 most used mons
>win
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>>59171536
That explains why I came cross players with a full team of shinies complete with title like Lucario the Great
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>>59171540
>only 1711 elo
You need at least 2000 elo if you want your opinion to carry weight
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>>59171573
Okay sorry, I'll work on it senpai
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>says Master Ball rank 4
>but there is an elo system instead of ranking
So does the current elo even fucking matter when they are just gonna add Champion tier and make us climb ranks again anyway?
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>>59171610
Pokeaim said they announced it coming tomorrow but I have yet to see any hard statement corroborating that so lol
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>>59171580
Don't listen to this retard. Do yourself a favor and stop playing this half-baked mobile game.
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why are the cosmetics so ass?
just take assets from old games since you do shitty work anyway
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>>59171550
Great means XXL, or a PLA alpha, but I think not a ZA one.
My personal favorite (I have yet to retrain it after using it in the battle facilities). Everybody gansta until the Starmie starts walkin.
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>>59171641
>no shades that cover the eyes completely
Well, there goes my style
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>>59171634
Thank you, anon-kun <3. I'm just playing this gayme, because it's the latest pokemon slop and I always wanted an official battle sim + my ""friend"" even started this shit game. But I'm starting to notice the dark patterns. I just want random battles :/

I just hate that they try their best to sell you this fucking subscription.
>>59171573
New streak, sensei.
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I hope they do balance changes in Pokemon Champions, mainly to give Mega Gengar literally anything but Shadow Tag so it isn't an immediate AG-ban.

Maybe give it Earth Eater to give it back its ground immunity
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>>59171653
Your alakazam/delphox, bro?
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>>59171647
Play with your friend if he's someone your close with. Otherwise forget his ass and move on. There are a million better things you can do with your life than consume the worst Pokemon slop imaginable. Play Pokeopia or even the TCG since the latter at least has an interesting gameplay loop.
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>>59171655
Pokopia is good until you get to the last ~25 percent, then its worse slop than most pokemon games and the end game is beyond trash
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>>59171655
Yea he's a really close fren. He even streamed his game via Bitch 2 and we had some fun. But anon-kun... I'm sick and tired of other turn based comp games like Yugi and Hearthstone, but I never really tried the TCG. Why do you hate this game so much? I mean I kinda get it... but I want to like it :/ it's the official VGC platform now... it even attracted many smogon showdown fags <3
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>>59171662
I hate it because they didn't bring my favorite Pokemon but decided to bring Incineroar and fucking Sneasler. I was so excited for an actual official simulator myself until I realized there's no 6v6 and everything is online so I can't even do shit like mess with the teambuilder on the airport. The game looks like shit and I'm upset that anyone is defending this game. Also, megas are shit for balance and the current format is terrible.
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I'm shorter than caraway....
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>>59171662
If you have actual fun with the game though that's cool just don't play this game out of pressure because it's not your fault the game is an unfun mess centralized around 10 uninteresting Pokemon.
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>>59171653
>i want them to make gengar worse so i can play it in a fanfic meta
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