Mega Sex EditionPokémon Champions is a free to play online battle simulator available on Switch with a mobile release later. It features ranked, casual and private battles for both singles and doubles, and will be used for VGC tournaments in 2026.SWITCH 2 UPDATE: Launch the game in handheld mode to get the performance boost (can still play docked after). Still 30FPS, however.>NewsSmall bug fix patch: https://news.pokemon-home.com/ja/page/758.htmlWarm Up Challenge online competition live, runs through the weekend and gives free GardevoirFree Machamp mystery gift code: CHAMP10NSeason 1 runs until May 13Mobile release possibly leaked for June>Linkshttps://champions.pokemon.com/en-us/https://x.com/Pokemon_Champs (EN) https://x.com/Poke_Champ_jp (JP)Pokémon data: https://serebii.net/pokedex-champions/Available mons: https://www.serebii.net/pokemonchampions/pokemon.shtmlMega abilities: https://serebii.net/pokemonchampions/megaabilities.shtmlQuick FAQ>Do I need my own Pokémon to play?No, the game features a recruitment system, but transferring from Home is recommended to save time and resources.>What makes the game so much more accessible than before?All aspects of a Pokémon are customizable with VP, a currency earned simply by playing the game. IVs are also removed.>Is there single player content?No.>Do I need a Nintendo Online subscription?No.>What's the starter pack?US$6.99 one time purchase for 50 training tickets (fully train for free), 30 quick coupons, 50 extra box space and the LGPE trainer music.>Is anything locked behind a paywall?So far everything gameplay relevant is also purchasable with VP. Mega Kalos starters and E-Floette require ZA transfer.Previous: >>59169430
>>59171697I hate how hard this fucker is hitting. Water shouldn't be given more strong hitters
Going back to Sword and Shield after years of not playing just to check out if I have any transferable Pokemon was an experience I don’t even have the DLCs
>>59171710youre in the same boat as megood thing is nobody else owns sw/sh so the pkhex bots are always free
>>59171704It can OHKO Dragonite even through Multiscale. People forget just how busted Huge Power is.
They really ought to buff Tail Slap so it’s 90 accuracy.
>modest scarf espeon is slower than scarf timid hydreigon by 4 pointsVery unfortunate, but scarf espeon has been my surprise hero in singles
>>59171717I use Azumarill a lot because of thisEveryone always thinks “I can this neutral hit” and then they take 50%+
So what does early bird do with the new sleep mechanics? Is it just automatic next turn wake up?
>dumping all the shinies I caught in GO I don't give a shit about into the GTS for Eternal Floettes>then trading those Floette's for shinies I do wantI'm a genius.
>>59171833stonmks
>>59171704>>59171717I hate playing nu-pokemon, but mega starmie with skill swap was fun for a bit. I'll come back once Regigigas is in.
>need legends ZA if you want to compete>need legends>need either SwSh/SV or both if you want to compete>need home sub to transfer>need nintendo switch online to play>need battle pass Holy fuck thats like 300 dollars if you want to be competitive? And you goyslop consoomers actually pay for this trash??You pathetic autistic assholes are why this franchise is dead an buried.If it wasnt for Showdown! nobody would care about competitive Pokemon
>>59171889Floette being so hard to access sucks, but every single one of your points is wrong.
>>59171889You don’t need any of that shit retard
>>59171833How do you prevent getting normie floettes?
>>59171910NTA but you can specify the form
>>59171918they should let the others mega evolve too
I left the game running on the TV for a long time, in the Battle menu where Tatora is pretty close to life size. She started moving out of the corner of my eye and she scared me
>>59171918I already have my Floette from ZA so I don't have to worry about it. But are people seriously trading away eternal Floette on the GTS? I assume it's just people with PKHex being nice?
>>5917194080% of the search results are asking for other eternals in return. I didn't miss the GTS stupidity.
>>59171889You need none of that, except Nintendo online. You can trade for Floette and get every other pokemon and train them in Champions. A Home subscription isn't necessary and the battle pass is both underwhelming and unnecessary.
>>59171944You don't need Nintendo online either
>>59171923Only the Eternal Flower Floette is considered fully evolved. she can't evolve further like the others.
Shit game
>>59171981What did you lose to now?
>>59171986This regulation
>hit master ball in both formatsnew content when???
Rate my team.Mega Feraligatr Ability: Dragonize Item: Feraligite Nature: Jolly (or Adamant )EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 SpeMoves: Dragon Dance / Double-Edge (now Dragon STAB, hits like a truck) / Crunch / Waterfall (or Ice Punch for coverage)----Skeledirge Ability: UnawareItem: LeftoversNature: Calm (or Bold)EVs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 SpDMoves: Torch Song / Shadow Ball / Calm Mind / Will-O-Wisp (or Flamethrower)-----Krookodile Ability: Intimidate Item: Leftovers (or Shuca Berry)Nature: AdamantEVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 SpeMoves: Earthquake / Crunch / Stone Edge / Bulk Up (or Taunt)----Tyranitar Ability: Sand StreamItem: LeftoversNature: AdamantEVs: 252 Atk / 4 HP / 252 Def (or mixed)Moves: Stealth Rock / Earthquake / Crunch / Stone Edge------Weavile Ability: Pressure (or Pickpocket)Item: Focus Sash (or Leftovers)Nature: JollyEVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 SpeMoves: Triple Axel / Knock Off / Ice Shard (priority) / Swords Dance------Gardevoir Ability: Trace (or Pixilate on Mega)Item: GardevoiriteNature: TimidEVs: 252 SpA / 4 Def / 252 SpeMoves: Moonblast / Psychic / Calm Mind / Healing Wish
>>59172018Where is incineroar
>>59172018How good is Skeledirge and Krookodile? Based gator team tho.
>>59171928God I wish Tatora was real
>>59172018crocodilian theme team?
>>59172018Your primiarina check?
>>59172039Dirge is a special tanky fucker who can ramp up the damage.Krook...well he is a crocodilian and intimidate is always good.>>59172044correct.
>>59171950Wait, you don't need Nintendo Online? I just asumed they would require you to use their predatory and overpriced online subscription in order to play an online-only game.Doesn't matter to me either way, I just use my wife's account which has Online through a family plan.
can anyone gen me a shiny charizard pls
My Doubles Team I'm working on...I hate leveling in Shining Pearl so much. I don't think it will do very well but I like Castform.Castform Ability: ForecastItem: Focus Sash or LeftoversNature: Modest / TimidEVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe (or HP investment for bulk)Moves:Weather Ball Sunny Day / Rain Dance / Hail Thunderbolt / Ice Beam / FlamethrowerProtect -----Torkoal (Fire) – Sun setter + bulky supportAbility: DroughtItem: Leftovers or berryNature: Bold / CalmEVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpDMoves: Sunny Day / Lava Plume / Stealth Rock / Protect or Yawn-----Pelipper – Rain setter + pivotAbility: DrizzleItem: Leftovers or Damp Rock equivalent Nature: BoldEVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpDMoves: Rain Dance / Surf / Hurricane / U-turn or Protect-----Vanilluxe – Hail/Snow setter Ability: Snow WarningItem: Leftovers or Icy RockNature: CalmEVs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 SpDMoves: Hail / Blizzard (spread Ice, high accuracy in hail) / Ice Beam / Protect or Aurora Veil--------Tyranitar – Sand setter + Intimidate bulkAbility: Sand StreamItem: LeftoversNature: Adamant or CarefulEVs: 252 HP / 4 Atk / 252 Def (or SpD)Moves: Sandstorm / Crunch / Earthquake / Stone Edge or Protect------Gastrodon – Special wall + recoveryAbility: Storm Drain Item: LeftoversNature: CalmEVs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 SpDMoves: Scald / Recover / Ice Beam / Protect or Mirror Coat
>>59172062I think you will be cucking yourself once castform is off the field, which probably won’t take very long. it would probably be better to focus on one or two types of weather. You are also lacking real damage, castform isn’t going to cut it and the rest of your team is invested into bulk.
I keep expecting to get hard stuck because I'm a noob and f2p, but I just made it to Ultra Ball tier and I'm on a 6 win streak. I'm having so much fun bros
is tyranitar, excadrill sand team strong against sun teams?
>>59172099you won't outslow Torkoal so you have to plan in advance to swap in ttarExcadril dying to literally any fire attack is fun too
>>59172054Yeah, it surprises me too when I don't need NSO to play it. Though accessing Home might require NSO to work. At least until mobile is here
>>59172104Transferring from Home doesn't require NSO either
>>59172062Gastrodon isn’t in and Castform is “so bad you automatically lose” not something quirky you can make work with support
>>59172099This is my anti-sun mode but just because of what recruitment options I've gotten. You're not going to win every game but it's fine, I haven't been able to get down as much damage as I want with Excadril a lot of the time and Mega T-tar isn't as awesome as other megas. On the upside, clicking Rock Slide twice is very funny.
if one of my pokemon's stats gets lowered will it go back to normal if i switch them out and back in again?
>>59172116Yes, that’s why a lot of people don’t use stat lowering moves
>>59172116Yes
>>59172128Seeing as how you liked it, I guess you do the same
Who is the best rage powder/follow me user right now?
>>59172161You're not exactly overwhelmed by choice, Sinistcha for Rage Powder, Maushold for Follow Me.
>>59172166Thanks. I've been rekt by a Sinistcha one time. I've been wanting to try it.
>>59172161Cha>>59172062I was thinking of using Castform as a weather abuser who can use opponents weather against it, but then again there are plenty other mons who get weather ball.
>>59172145I play a girl actually
>>59172099Consider aerodactyl.Outspeeds char y with x4 rock stabKills whims through sash with dual wingbeat. Has access to tailwind, taunt, wide guard too Pairs well with your earthquake spammer tooSurprisingly decent spdef if you get sand up
>>59172166A recent tournament winner used Clefable actually
>>59172018Based 0 synergy team
>>59170501Don't know if you're still here Rhyperior-anon, but I made it to Ultra Ball last night with this teamhttps://pokepast.es/ac017bc837ce1cdc
>get perish trapped>win
I'm shocked how often in Ultra ball people try and fake out in front of my farigiraf.
>>59172262I-I forget....
>>59172262I've actually only fought two Farigs on my way up to Ultra.First one: I try to Taunt it. Learn what it does.Second one: I forgor, try to Taunt it again.Now I will remember.
>Make it to Doubles Master Ball with a team of M Froslass, Scarfchomp, Magnet Rotom W, Milotic, Whimsicott and Spiritomb (last one is for Farigiraf and Macha to either stop Trick Room going up and/or murder them with Dark Pulse)>For every game I play well and can feasibly win there are three where the opponent perfectly counters my leads.>Any other team I try gets immediately bodied 0-5 Any advice anons? I’m running some tech choices like Poison Jab on Scarfchomp to deal with Fairies and Disable on M Froslass but the rest of the team (minus Spiritomb) is pretty standard.
>>59172294>Now I will remember.Update us on this on your third time.
>>59172262I love ruining prankster mons’ days
>>59172262Have people been complaining about the Giraffe here much? Most obnoxious thing about is that there aren't any multistrike moves that can remove it right awayThere's Pin Missile, but Heracross would lose all utility as soon as the giraffe is removedI can Helping Hand Pounce on Scizor, but every fag that uses giraffe uses Focus Sash and I can't clean it with Bullet Punch afterwards
>>59172298>Taunts the other pokemon
>>59172166I'm still upset Toedscruel didn't make the initial cut.
>>59171889Just buy the 7 dollar starter pack and gacha your way to a competitive team, that’s what I did.
>>59172304Mega Kangaskhan Crunch
>"doubles is the real format">supportmon that sets weather, encores and tailwinds while still being able to OHKO things with a super effective hit>stat ball that outspeeds and OHKOs over half the roster while being able to take 2-3 hits>every team you face is either weather and/or incineroar/sneasler openingBros I just want to use my shitmons.How bad of an idea is it to have a format where your team's total BST can't exceed a certain number?It'll probably be cracked in a week anyways
>>59172425>a format where your team's total BST can't exceed a certain numberScarf Ditto on every team to cheese the cumulative BST
So Helping Hand + Sucker Punch definitely handles Delphox, but I'm concerned that its heavily dependent on Helping Hand Tera could fix that in the future, but that creates a whole other problem, as if Dragapult can Tera, that means everyone else canHopefully not Megas, which are my main targets, but stillhttps://files.catbox.moe/xbi2wm.mp4
>>59172485Megas getting tera sounds like a horrible idea by anyone's standardsUsing the Omni Ring will probably be a once per match deal, so you can Mega evolve something or Tera something
>>59172489Megas getting Tera would be fun for one formatLive a little
I despise Teras
>>59171943its mostly people trying to flip their chink floette into a jap or english one yeah
>>59171697Physical starmie feels wrong, they should have made a special version of huge power for it. With Starmie's special coverage it would have been very strong
Just ended someone's 10 win streak at Ultra Ball rank 2
is charizard y + venasaur the most popular team right now?
>>59171940Any legendaries on the GTS that are trading for something reasonable are like 99.5% genned or duped. There's an incredibly low chance they are real, especially when you see them from the same region when searching them standalone like CN.When I was messing around shiny hunting in SV a year or two back I had a bunch of legit shiny duplicates from the process that I was throwing up on the GTS to try and get stuff like Koraidon, Walking Wake, all the Donbrothers, Gouging Fire, Raging Bolt, a second Miraidon, all the Treasures of Ruin in Chinese (Just felt like it fit), and I'm sure there was more. Maybe like 85% of the initial ones I got were cheated in which I double-checked with trainer ID blacklists (https://tswann89.github.io/PokemonSV/blacklist/). In order to get anything legit I'd have to then start a daisy chain of trading these legendaries over and over for other legendaries until one of them finally didn't turn up onthe backlist.
I posted this in the other Champions thread, but here's the team I'm running.
>>59172599and these are their stats.
>>59172599>meteor beamdoes this ever actually work? mglim just feels too vulnerable to get away with a charge attack especially in doubles
Yeah nah, fuck mega. Give me Z-moves, give me Dynamax, give me Tera. Anything but crappy "fixes".
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lmlEXWOQlZsHoly fuck how did I not know this existed until now, they better make this available to players
>>59172628I've heard shit about megas for years and this is my first time playing competitively. I don't see why the big stink. The only thing I don't like about it is that there aren't more of them and more of them aren't viable so you would get more variety. Even that's not the end of the world, Zard tards are dominating right now and even though my default team mode doesn't play well into it I'm still having fun playing around it.
They can't even get shirt textures correct.
>>59172628>give me TeraGo back to SHARTdown.
>>59172637Small company please understand
>>59172637why are you looking at her shirt when her armpit is right there?
>battle that got me into Master Ball tier was won by the opponent rage quitting after I got a double Rock Slide flinchI mean I'll take it. The flinch helped but the game was nowhere near done. His Orthworm could have walled my entire team.
>>59172659just won a game because aggron's rock slide flinched their snorlax for 3 turns straightI would've been seething
>>59172624Eh, from time to time. But you're ultimately right, the risk is far too grave for the reward. But I don't know what to switch it with.>>59172628>Z-movesWorst gimmick.
>>59172499>Dynamax Mega-Ray>Tera Steel Mega-Ray
>>59172425The greatest joke people ever played was that Pachirisu winning worlds meant your favorite shitmon was more viable in doubles than singles.
>>59172425A lot of my favorites are NFEs or shitmons. At this point I am just hoping for a good spin off game
>>59172425>>How bad of an idea is it to have a format where your team's total BST can't exceed a certain number?Those metas have been tried countless times.Turns out BST is a terrible measure for what's good or not. Look at how many Pokemon with high BST are shit and how many with low BST are very good. And then there's things like Smeargle and Ditto that are basically free slots.It simply becomes a massive min-max game, and you can always pack two or three extremely low BST shitmons and fill the other three slots with super high BST goodmons.
>>59172706NTA But maybe they should include moves and abilities into the calculus. Have an established currency that you can buy Pokemon, Abilities, and moves with, all weighted by their usage (rather than arbitrary judgement of their value). Like if Incineroar's Intimidate has 100% usage, it cost 100 more currency to use. Meanwhile Blaze at 0% usage would be free. Then you have to spend points on moves. Ember is free, Fakeout is another 100 points. And you can price these things on a scale so that Ember might remain free until it hits a certain usage.
>>59172724>have to spend more to use non shit movesEasily one of the worst ideas I have ever heard. Amazing job, moron.
>>59172724That's not going to make more people use less used abilities, moves or Pokémon. It'll just make using what people actually want to use way more annoying. This isn't a grocery store where you're choosing between brands. Things are objectively stronger and weaker.
I wish they brought back the regional statistics the Global Link website had. I am saying this mainly because I live in a small country and I miss being ranked 3rd place in the nation from doing the bare minimum because only a dozen people here played online.I want to be a big fish in a small pond again damn it.
>>59172577I tried to use a meme TR+AV team with Slowbro, G-Slowking, A-Ninetales, free cherish ball Marchamp, etc. but kept losing in Ultra Ball to common combos like Zard Y+Venusaur, Arch+Pelipper, and Garchomp+Orthworm.>replaced TR setter Slowbro with Tailwind+Wideguard Aerodactyl>replaced Slowking with Quiver Dance+Heat Wave Volcarona>replaced Scope Lens Machamp with Black Belt Lucario>made A-Ninetales max speed instead of minimum speed>Volcarona at +1 with free cherish ball Mega Garloid (male) in the back just destroy everything because no one runs WG>Aerodactyl’s Dual Wingbeat eats Sneedlers for lunch>go on a winstreak by forsaking TR for TWSlowbrosisters I failed you…
>>59172727Yup! Weaker mons with strong moves will be roughly equal in cost to stronger mons with weaker moves.>>59172734It will if they can't afford them on their team.
>>59172639why do people hate the best gimmick again?
>>59172637Lmfao that looks so fucking bad
>>59172629Sounds like Sonic Forces music
>>59172762Probably because their favorite pokemon didn't get a mega.
I think I have perfected my team. I just won 6 in a row in masterball.T-tar, Aerodactyl, Farigiraf, Clefable, Aggron, Meganium.Whats my weakness? I don't even know.
It's nice to see Aggron do so well.
>>59172825I keep facing teams that just bring physical mons. All I need is 1 iron defense setup with trick room or follow me support and Aggron auto wins into that. Feels so good eating a stab earthquake and not even losing 20% hp only to fire back with a body press with 300+ defense
>>59171697Unburden is glitched out. Doesn't proc when my White Herb or Focus Sash is used up. I used those items on Sneasler all the time on Showdown and SV and it worked just fine, so why is it broken here? Is ILCA really that incompetent?
>>59172871>Is ILCA really that incompetent?doesn't the "I" in "ILCA" stand for "incompetent"?
>>59171833I too have been day-trading Eternal Floettes, but not to get shinies. You can get an E Floette for a shiny in like 5 minutes (provided you don't language specify and are prepared to take one of the million Simplified Chinese ones that are all pretty obviously dupes), and basically every other legendary can be had for any E Floette trivially. I turned community day shiny Tinkatinks into Walking Wake and Raging Bolt today.Worth mentioning that all pokemon can be renamed as often as you want in Champions, regardless of OT or country of origin
>>59172875What about the LCA?
>>59172877Losers Can't Acreategoodgames
>>59172876Word of warning, don’t take that floette to any vgc in person tournament, though I doubt you would. They dq for dupes. Do names stay with the pokemon in home/other games or are they champs only?
>>59172871Does Cloud Nine even work?
My scarfchomp: Uses spread moves for consistent damage, honest pokemon.Their scarfchomp: rockslide only to hope for flinches and cheese with it, evil creature.Is the captcha super slow for you guys too or just me right now?
>>59171833I too have been day-trading Eternal Floettes, but not to get shinies. You can get an E Floette for a shiny in like 5 minutes (provided you don't language specify and are prepared to take one of the million Simplified Chinese ones that are all pretty obviously dupes), and basically every other legendary can be had for any E Floette trivially. I turned a pair of spare community day shiny Tinkatinks into Walking Wake and Raging Bolt today.Worth mentioning that all pokemon can be renamed as often as you want in Champions, regardless of OT or country of origin
>>59172900Yes it works. It doesn't make the weather go away. It just removes weathers effects while a cloud nine mon is out.
>>59172901Glad it's not just me, I have to wait a good 20 seconds before I'm served the verification or the message telling me it's not required, and then the post takes about the same time to actually go up.
>>59172901yeah it's been pretty fucked since they did that maintenance last night
>>59170806You’re welcome, dude is so disrespected and underrated
>>59172901My scarfchomp: missalot>Is the captcha super slow for you guys too or just me right now?My posts have been slow as a pass user
>>59172889How is the legality checker in HOME/Champions?I haven't got around to getting this game yet. However, I did find this Ultra Sun game file with a fuckload of very obviously hacked battle ready mons. Might just slap it on my Ultra Sun cartridge and send everything to HOME. I don't go to IRL tournies anyway. I just wanna battle online.
>>59172928My understanding of home is you’re more or less fine as long as it it is able to exist. So Hall of Origin Arceus is out, any illegal moves on a pokemon or stuff like that is out, but things like shiny partner cap Pikachu (only possible through a coding error) is fine. As far as I can tell, Champions has no checker and just relies on Home, but my stuff is all legit/rng’d. The in person stuff is a lot more stringent. Like I said, if you have a dupe of another player’s pokemon, that’s a dq or removal of that pokemon, stuff that passes home can get you dq’d if it’s hacked, etc. there’s a separate checker they use.
>>59172062Assuming you're refering to champions, you don't need to level anything, they're auto-set to level 50 once they're in champions. Gastrodon is also tragically not in the game yet. I'll be honest, your movesets and team are garbage. The ability weather pokemon don't need to run the weather move, stealth rocks is near useless in doubles since you barely switch out, Castform which seems to be the centerpiece behind this meme team doesn't even have the proper moveset to utilize the weather. Weather ball copies the weather type, so his remaining moves should be things like blizzard or thunder which can provide spread damage or coverage weather ball can't get him.If we're gonna do this, we do this right. Castform is a horrible pokemon statwise and has virtually nothing of value to offer on a single weather team. His only unique trait is that he changes type based on weather, so we'll utilize that fact as much as we can to justify it's existance. Give Castform max speed and spAtk and a modest nature so he can hit as hard and fast as possible because he's going to need it. Give him a choice scarf so he can actually outspeed some things. Normally choice scarf locks you into a single move until you switch out, but castform lets us cheat, since we can change weather ball's type just by changing the weather. For his moveset, of course weather ball, then hurricane, thunder, and solarbeam.Next we're consolidating your weather. swapping back and forth to change the weather can fuck you over by wearing down the rest of your team and makes castform your only threat half the time. Instead, we're going to use Klefki. Klefki has the prankster ability, which makes status moves go first no matter how fast klefki is, and he can learn sunny day, rain dance and sandstorm. Castform doesn't have a sand form, but weather ball does change to rock type in sand so we'll make note of it. [comment's too long so I'll continue in another post]
>>59171833I tried doing the same with my shiny Garbodor but no one wants it lol
>>59172062>>59172946[continued]For his remaining moves klefki has some options. Metal sound to nab surprise KOs on things Castform shouldn't be able to kill, or reflect/lightscreen to keep the little guy alive one extra turn, or just thunder wave to heavily lower the speed of whatever you want. Let's go with metal sound for now since the goal of the team is sneaky castform KOs and it facilitates that. Give it a mental herb as the item and build it for full physical bulk.Now we can't have Klefki as our only option for weather control so we'll also add Sableye. He has the same prankster ability and rain dance/sunny day. For the last 2 give him fake out so he can flinch a pokemon on the first turn and let castform attack, and encore which can cripple a pokemon by forcing it to repeat a useless move like protect over and over. Sableye is also crucially immune to fake out as he's a ghost type. Build him for special bulk and give him a focus sash.Now you'll notice none of our pranksters get snow, and ice is a very good attacking type, so we'll add in Alolan ninetails(or whatever snow warning pokemon you happen to have). This one we'll give blizzard, Aurora veil, moonblast, and protect. Timid nature, max speed and special attack and give it nevermeltice. It'll be very good at keeping castform alive when he should definitely not be and supplement it's low damage with powerful blizzards.With that we have more than enough weather to play with. What you need now is backups for when castform inevitably goes down. Basculegion is a great attacker who has swift swim, and will double his speed in rain. With prankster you can set rain and have him surprise and outspeed an opponent who was faster before, playing well into the weather shuffle minigame this team is designed for. Go ahead and give it mystic water with adamant max atk max speed. Flip turn, wave crash, last respects, and psychic fangs to deal with sneasler.[too long, one more comment]
>>59172678>pachirisu winning worldsAnyone who says this in competitive discussion should be ignored because they don't play and are ass at mons. It wasn't even his favorite (at that time) mon. It was just the mon that best suited the role needed for that team (which he said btw)
>>59172062>>59172955[continued]Your final slot is a freebie. Choose whichever mega or another pokemon you personally like that can deal damage and put it here, then build it to work alongside what the team offers. It doesn't need to be weather focused, you have enough of that.The gameplan as should be obvious is to throw castform in and start spamming weather ball, and using your prankster mons to priority change the weather to shift it and castform to the type you need while also neutering opponent's weather teams. MegaCharizard for example is outspeed by scarfed castform and dies to weather ball after you set up rain on him, and you can follow up by going back to sun to hit whimsicott without needing to swap out castform and reset his scarf. You can also use it defensively, throwing out a sunny day to gain fire type and resist fairy moves for example. You'll need to play well to use it, but the sheer surprise factor shouldn't be understanted. People likely have no idea how they should react to castform and may even ignore it thinking(correctly) that it's a horrible pokemon and not expecting how hard weather ball hits even from the boobie cloud.
>>59172981tfw run weather ball on dragonite and for whatever reason people keep swapping or even leading kingambit next their zards (I onetap it with weather ball after they mega evolve)
single 6s when?
what team did you guys hit master rank with? you DID already hit master rank, right?
>>59172938>if you have a dupe of another player’s pokemon, that’s a dq or removal of that pokemonIt's honestly crazy to me that that's a rule in a tournament structure that allows rental teams to be used. Anyway it won't matter anymore, VGC is all on Champions now, and Champions is a separate mon data structure, we have no idea what kind of legitimacy checks (if any) the game uses or makes available. It no longer even has the rental code logic in it, the new system only encodes mon attribute values and forces you to retrain your OWN mons to match them, so the process of submitting your team rental code for their use and review will no longer even expose your mons to their checks.>>59172928One particularly odd thing is that the game evidently refuses to allow mons to visit if they do not have any "recent game". If they came over from Bank and have just sat there and never visited any modern game, evidently Champions refuses them. IDK if that's true, it's what I've read.
>>59172994I'll show when when I hit master....
>>59171889You "need" at most SV and Legends Arceus. The exclusive megas you need ZA for are mid. SV and LA have the most meta mons. A Home subscription is only useful for connecting to Bank.
>>59172724There is a format that does this, it's called draft league, players bid for pokemon from a fixed reserve of team points and then are stuck with that roster for the entire tournament, which they can use to build their various teams (usually you draft 10-12 mons and get a couple of weeks to repurpose them based on the opponent you are facing). Because of the bidding process, a mon's "power level" is discovered by the bidding mechanism, assuming most players have a good understanding of a mon's overall meta value. You don't need an objective metric for determining a mon's cost, you just rely on player knowledge to set it for you.I actually think you could do something moderately similar in a ladder format, where you use overall usage rates from the prior season of the ladder to set cost and then make people bid on a budget for the current season. You can just use a rolling window to update costs so it's not total disarray every few months.
>>59173004>One particularly odd thing is that the game evidently refuses to allow mons to visit if they do not have any "recent game".But I grabbed my Aegislash and Hawlucha from Y and put them into Champions immediately with no problem.
>>59172994Ttar, Raichu, Clefable, Meowstic, Ceruledge, Mega Steelix
>>59173012You don't need PLA for anything. All the Hisui forms are in SV.
I want legendaries...
>>59172994No, I'm still in Great Ball
>>59173018Not all of them. I think you get a freebie Growlith and that's it
>>59171944What are you gonna trade for Floette? You can't trade Champions pulls.I've actually made it a personal mission to try to play Champions without spending any money to unlock stuff, exclusively as a phone player without a Switch. At minimum you need a Home subscription, and to invest time in Pokemon Go to gather Pokemon as a starting resource to aggressively trade on the GTS. If you try to play Champions using ONLY Champions itself, you are gonna have a bad time. Nobody playing seriously is NOT using Home to supplement their roster, past the free bot wins stage you're suffering unless you HAPPENED to pull a meta team out of your ass in your first couple of ranch visits.
>>59173032You can get all of them through trades in SV. No point buying and playing through an entire separate game to get them.
>>59172994Floette, Delphox, Aerodactyl, Garchomp, Maushold and Kingambit. Probably need to hammer out the EVs a bit more, pretty sure Delphox has way more speed than it needs.
>>59172994Crabominable Slowking Incineroar Farigaraf Kinggambit HydrappleIt sucks I have to work hard to win at 1700 lmao
>>59172994I keep trying to make my shitmon teams work because if I copy/paste then I won't feel like I did it myself.
>>59173040By that logic you don't need SV either because you can get the SV mons in trades too via GTS. Agreed you shouldn't get the game just for the 3/4 relevant mons but saying SV is the answer while still having to rely on trades defeats the purpose
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HxHTeE0UrnAI didn't know Wolfey was a Chikoritafag.
>>59172994Quaquval, M-Aero, Starmie, H-Arc, Corviknight, M-Luc.
>>59173067Wolfey says whatever will put the most food on the table and this is what people want to believe
haven't played competitive pokimans in years. any video/content/guide to get me started?
Is there a way to make him work with Whimsinigger as his partner? Jolly Machamp outspeeds and OHKOs Scarf Basculegion after Tailwind and Helping Hand.>252 Atk Machamp Helping Hand Knock Off (97.5 BP) vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Basculegion: 236-278 (120.4 - 141.8%) -- guaranteed OHKO
>>59172994I'm still in great ball 1 but also i don't know much about compmon and not netdecking.
>>59173067>>59173071
metafag holocaust now
>>59173079Use to Protect to buy a turn, or use Trick Room insteadHeavy Slam, Knock Off, Dynamic Punch, Protect with No Guard sounds alright
>>59173087nigga heil koffing
>>59173079Just use an actual dark type if you are that desperate to kill Basculegion
>>59173094I like No Guard Cross Chop+Stone Edge+Scope Lens better than Dynamicpunch because it helped net me some kills on Archie and Mega Dragonite after breaking Multiscale.
>kill sneasler turn 1>immediate forfeit>next match>kill venusaur turn 1>immediate forfeit
>>59173079He does better in trick room but jolly tailwind works if you can stop your opponent from setting tailwind aswell. Close combat also kills incin if he has a white herb to stop the intimidate. Dont do noguard dynamicpunch memes just stick to CC, knock off and wide guard to cuck blizzard and eruption spam. Just stick protect, Ice punch or rock slide in the last slot.You can grab him from the mystery gift if you need it too.
>>59173116I usually forfeit if one of my pokemon gets insta-killed by some retarded bullshit when I'm trying to set up
>>59173107I’ve killed multiple Basculegion by leading with Kingambit Sucker Punch, but I feel like eventually the Timmys will catch onto that and just start switching to Sneedler when they see Kingambit. Killing big hitters with Helping Hand and Machamp seems like it’ll be really lulzy.
>lose so much I get fed bots.FUCK YOU I DON'T WANT PITY WINS
>>59173138ganbatte great ball anon
Jesus. I wished they retained this size variance
>>59173033Yeah, GO is where I farm pokemon to trade in the GTS. At a minimum you need GO and HOME to trade on the GTS for comp mons. As far as starting goes, the first pokemon you recruit in the tutorial determines the rest of the team you get to start with. One of those mons gives ttrar and Garchomp, can't remember which, which is a solid starting team for both doubles and singles.
>>59173145They do. Alpha mons aren't alpha sized but they still have the max regular size scale in Champions.
>>59173138They should really make the bots better. Giving shitty players a win now and again to keep them from being demoralized is good on paper, but the bots are so bad it's just insulting. It probably makes them feel even worse than just losing again. Give them like a normal AI at least on part with an average E4 trainer from the games and just have them run weak pokemon instead of good pokemon with abyssmal movesets.
>>59173154Yeah but I miss the exaggeration. I've been seeing fucking tiny serperiors though
>>59173154They need to implement alpha pokemon in the gacha. I can imagine people draining their VP to get alpha pokemon. No one gives a fuck about random titles but everyone would want an alpha on their team
>>59173145>>59173154Yeah, the size difference isn't too bad in champions. Here's an Alpha vs XS as according to ZA (the XS doesn't have "the Teensy" title so it's not the smallest possible size)
>>59173173I think the stadium really fucks with some sizes
>>59172871Unburden 100% works gaslighter-kun.You’d have to be stupid to assume it doesn’t or maybe you just don’t know anything about pokemon.
>>59173176Nah, Mamoswine is just massive>meanwhile, Azumarill
You can view the size of mons from their summary in ZA. XL and XS are very noticeably different in size in Champions. Alphas are always XL
>>59173176Bro is playing with ancient creatures
Is the extra box space a one time purchase kinda thing?
>>59173223You get 50 from the starter pack and a 20 from grinding up to master ball rank. So 100 box space total right now if you don't buy the dumb subscription thing.
>underspeed my froslass so it's one point slower than timid zard so I can mega evolve after>everyone is using modest or somethingsixty niggers
>>59173133I'm consistently shocked how this keeps working.>>59173223For the starter pack yeah. I assume the 1000 extra spaces you get for the premium membership only works as long as you keep up your sub.
>>59173236Everyone is switching to slow bulky zard so they don't auto-lose to every random rock move. The guy who got 1st in the warm up competition thing ran it so everyone is copying his EV spread.
>>59173004I have a shitload of hacked mons from my 3DS games that have immediately gone to champions without any issues.>>59173056At least you’re able to get wins anon. I’m stuck at low 1600s after starting at low 1800s because of this BS >>59172297
>Playing against a hard trick room team>Taunt their giraffe with Gyarados turn 1 while Froslass sets up with nasty plot>They forefit
>>59172994Farigiraf, Machamp, Snorlax, Ampharos
I don't get how this is supposed to work. I try to bring strategies like trick room or weather but in the end I get destroyed by literal children who bring two offensive mons and just click attacks for four turns in a row. Is shit that takes setup time a meme?
Recruited a shiny Pigeot from my second wife
I just looked at how weather effects look like in PBR and now I'm fucking mad.
>>59173262Weather should be set passively (with active weather setters being your plan B) and if you're allowed to set Trick Room that should set you up to win even if the Pokemon that set it gets killed. And getting hit during your set up is expected, that's why you try to force switches or debuff.
>>59171697https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4NDZxe7sVd8
>>59173258>Tauntradosmy fucking nigger
>>59173262I don't understand the appeal of setup shit at all. It's all designed around being as linear and uninteractive as possible. You play your sacrifice lead who sets up for you and then you sweep with something else. It's so fucking boring. "Pressing random attack buttons" unironically takes more skill and can affect the game in way more interesting ways. Even DDance type shit is more dynamic since there's more ways to interact with it.
>>59173309>what the fuck? why would anyone ever bother using a move that does NO DAMAGE??i am starting to understand why you retards have earned the name "campaignshitter"
>>59173305They never expect the max bulk support gyarados/volcarona
Just went on a 12 game win streak to hit Master Ball rank. Wide Guard is such skill check it just destroys so many teams.
>>59171928Tatora is ugly but I have an extreme urge to make her pregnant
Champions rank is in the game now
>>59172994M-Tyranitar, Excadrill, Corviknight, Sinistcha, Milotic and Garchomp/Incineroar.
>>59173377Post team
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>>59172994>>59173399
Wolfey just hit champion tier on stream. You only get a title for hitting it, no more extra box slots.
>>59173400Do you need to be Champions Rank for your opinion to matter
>>59173406How well did this work? is it me or is the board shitting itself today
Is Meowsic a good support? I was eyeing supports for Mega Starmie and it seems like female Meowstic has Competitive as its ability, fake out and all that but it doesnt seem like it could take a hit from Sucker Punch if it comes down to it
So how do I look at new pokemon in the ranch? I see the "You can meet a new lineup at no cost!" message, but the only option I can press is "View Current Lineup."Do I have to return the pokemon I got from the initial tutorial or something?
>>59173409I care about your opinion anon
>>59173414Every 22 hours you can add a new rental pokemon to your roster out of 10 possible choices. You then either spend 2500 VP or tix if you want them to be permanent
>>59173414You have to recruit 1 Pokemon to reroll the ranch. Do temporary recruit so it costs nothing then immediately release it. This is a well designed game.
>>59173414You have to pick one from your current lineup to do another roll. Just rent one temporarily if you don't like any of the picks.
My dumbass just found out you don’t need NSO to play this game
>>59173408So it's not worth getting then?>>59173411Extremely well started using it around Great Ball Rank 2 or 3 and did not lose a game all the way to Master Ball. >is it me or is the board shitting itself todayNo it's happening to everybody.
>>59173409Champion Tier is just Top 300 by ELO, so I guess so but not many people are going to have that rank>>59173411The site is broken today
>>59173429Yeah, I got worried when I booted up the game but turned out Ninty is at least courteous enough not to force NSO on Champions
