Pokémon Champions is a free to play online battle simulator available on Switch with a mobile release later. It features ranked, casual and private battles for both singles and doubles, and will be used for VGC tournaments in 2026.Switch 2 users: Launch the game in handheld mode or undock/redock to get the performance boost>NewsMaintenance on April 23 from 3:00 to 6:00 UTC (probably new patch)Champion Tier & Master ranks 1-3 unlocked for current seasonWarm Up Challenge competition over, Gardevoir reward availableFree Machamp mystery gift code: CHAMP10NMobile release possibly leaked for June>Linkshttps://champions.pokemon.com/en-us/https://x.com/Pokemon_Champs (EN) https://x.com/Poke_Champ_jp (JP)Pokémon data: https://serebii.net/pokedex-champions/Available mons: https://www.serebii.net/pokemonchampions/pokemon.shtmlMega abilities: https://serebii.net/pokemonchampions/megaabilities.shtmlResources: https://pikalytics.com/Quick FAQ>Do I need my own Pokémon to play?No, the game features a recruitment system, but transferring from Home is recommended to save time and resources.>What makes the game so much more accessible than before?All aspects of a Pokémon are customizable with VP, a currency earned simply by playing the game. IVs are also removed.>Is there single player content?No.>Do I need a Nintendo Online subscription?No.>What's the starter pack?US$6.99 one time purchase for 50 training tickets (fully train for free), 30 quick coupons, 50 extra box space and the LGPE trainer music.>Is anything locked behind a paywall?So far everything gameplay relevant is also purchasable with VP. Mega Kalos starters and E-Floette require ZA transfer.Previous:>>59193870
i played on the launch to great ball and stopped to shiny hunt in firered, do you guys think it will be harder or easier to climb to masterball now compared to launch?
>>59197532Probably easier since only scrubs are hardstuck below master ball.
>>59197536You're talking to a shiny hunter, he's the scrub
Shit game
thought rock head would make the scarf on h-arc too obvious, but I keep ohkoing lead sneaslers.
>>59197542True last time i played VGC it was Gen 6
>>59197532Easier as times goes on.
Best fire type with some ground moves worth using?
Which fire/ghost pokemon is best? Ceruledge, Hisuian Typhlosion, Chandelure, or Skeledirge?
>6 game win streak>finally Ultra Ball 1>barely scrapped by v. A OHKO cheese stratI'm shaking, why has it been so dog shit to climb lately.
>>59197549I saw someone on twitter say that the game can give titles but not ribbons as far as we know currently. Basically the game can track when a Pokemon should be given the rank master tag if it didn't have it but can't give the actual ribbon
Aren't we supposed to get news soon? On the 22nd?Anyway, I'm working on mono-Ground doubles leads. Thinking about a Steelix-Camerupt pairing as a good match-up against Sun and Snow teams.
>>59197571We are supposed to get some sort of news about "the future of champions" today.
>>59197564Typhlosion. It's the only one you'll ever actually see sometimes on ladder.
>>59197532Great Ball and lower Ultra Ball will be easier, but high Ultra Ball will be full of very angry people who are trapped in the tier and can't get out.
>>59197515>Spamming fighting moves in casual battles for fighting type affinity tickets and muh Sneasler (don't judge me, they designed the game this way)>Their Whimsicott sets up tailwind>Their Mega Ttar hits Earthquake into my Gengar and Mega Aggron (Mr. Pancakes)>Gengar goes down before he can Focus Blast>Mr. Pancakes body presses into Ttar and takes it down>My Corviknight (Hulk Crowgan) comes out>Their Excadrill comes out>Whimsicott gets switched out for Arcanine>Its intimidate gets bounced back by Hulk Crowgan's mirror armor>I double Body Press into the Excadrill>It goes down>Whimsicott comes back out>Keep body pressing into Arcanine, Mr. Pancakes goes down to fire and moonblast>Sandstorm has been up this whole time chipping their team>Corviknight is still at full health>My Gallade comes out>I could use any one of my coverage moves to do super effective damage, but I'm going to click a fighting move. They don't know that>Hoping quick claw comes out, but unfortunately they double into Gallade and it goes down>Body Press into Arcanine, it's getting low>They get another tailwind up>Hulk Crowgan tanks hits from both of them, Moonblast doesn't do much, I invested into special defense too>Take Arcanine down with a final body press>At this point I am laughing my ass off>Fuck the tickets, press roost instead>They forfeit
Man, having never played against Megas previously, it's so fucking hard to remember the ones who has their ability change. I sent in my Basculegion on a Lopunny CC, only to then be reminded that Mega Lopunny has Scrappy.
>>59197588it wasn't that funny the first time, and absolutely not the second time either
>>59197573EoS already...
>>59197573Good. Hopefully we get a roadmap of some sort. A confirmation to the mobile release, maybe a future roster expansion.
I just noticed you can get the master rank ribbon on this game, thats cool
>>59197590most of them change anon
>>59197585Thanks, I'll give it a try. I'm trying to make a mono ghost team, so I hope Typhlosion fits well in it.
>>59197605Typhlosion without sun is big doo doo tho
I want to use Water Bubble Mega Blastoise for the lols but I suck at teambuilding, what else can I use, ArCHUDludon and Legion?
What's the best counter to Archaludon? I need to be able to one shot this faggot bridge.
>>59197610Oh, dang. I'll try him in some casual matches first to see how he fares, hopefully better than Ceruledge who I wasn't too impressed with.
i'm still so confused as to why the fuck mega-floette is available now at launch. the power level is so low, and then there's that fucking monster
>>59197618Another Archaludon, win the speed tie and oneshot with draco meteor
>>59197626She's the obligatory pay to win mon, I think.
>>59197626So you buy the fucking spinoff, seems very transparent to me.>>59197625The only way I've seen H-Typlosion being played is scarf eruption on sun teams
>>59197626It's very important that there always be one good pokemon that you can only get by buying the console and the title and the latest DLC to unlock it, otherwise you might spend less money on the game. It's literally been this way since Red and Blue and their version exclusives, do you not yet understand how this franchise is built from the ground up to make autists buy full-priced video games they don't really want in order to access 16kb of data?
>>59197618Something that gets earthpower or aura sphere
>>59197612Realiatically you can double Mega here.
>Aerodactyl has Rock Head as an ability, which protects against recoil>gen 9 moveset has fucking TAKE DOWN as its only recoil move>take down is gone in champions so now it just has a non-functional ability
>>59197626SNEEDsler is significantly stronger than the vegetable.
>>59197618Earth Power is your best answer. It has terrible special bulk. Camerupt with 105 SpA and STAB can one-shot it with only half investment.
>>59197646it's more well-rounded with wider application, yes. but on a hit by hit basis, mega-floette blows it out of the water and it's not even close.
>>59197626I'm in master rank and I still haven't lost to a single Floette team. Literally free wins. Also the biggest tournament yet didn't have a single Floette in top 8, it's ALL Mega Zard Y
>>59197594I fucked it up the first time
>>59197657Based Camerupt exposing Archaludon for the fraud that it is.Fucking poser.
>>59197659That just means your team has a positive match-up towards Mega-Floette teams? I too, am in Master and I run a rain team. I haven't been beaten by a Zard Y team in multiple days, that doesn't diminish how strong Zard Y is. That just means I have a good match-up into it.
>>59197594What's wrong? Did you bring your sand team to a body press match?
does houndoom see any play at all?
>>59197645Game Freak is retarded
>>59197645This is the same mon that didn't get Rock Slide until gen 3. Someone at GF legit hates Aerodactyl
>>59197645>>59197687One day fossil Pokemon will not be treated like shit.Mega Meganium is irrefutable proof that a Pokemon CAN be redeemed.
>>59197697anon aerodactyl is one of the best pokemon of the entire format
>>59197702always liked kabutops more
>>59197697How would you fix Kabutops?
>>59197706by giving it an evolution so that it doesn't suck poop from a butt
>by the time a lot of the lower power level mons are returning to Champions, we'll be in later regulations with way too strong Pokemon to get to use themeven now you can barely use some of the lower power stuff because of the the war criminals in the game currently
>>59197720Game Freak will balance itTrust the plan
>double crit for the rankup to MastersIts not glorious, but it will do. Tough luck buddy, lady luck is on my side today
Is Pikalytics a good resource if you're trying to build a team for singles? If not, what are some good resources for that?
Just lost to a Coil+Hypnosis Milotic. How do you even defend against that other than sticking Lum and Cheeto berries on your leads?
Anybody found any hidden gem pokemon from your time playing champions?For me its Runerigas. Very reliable bulky trick room setter. Willowisps threats easily under trick room. Ally switch is ghetto redirect but funnier. I just really wish it got helping hand or light screen I'd have even better uses for it
I do not care for the mega aggron memes. They feel unfunny and forced. >>59197720I'm assuming (hoping) that they rotate the list of usable mons and items.
>>59197747>Cheeto berriesI smell the thin layer of dust that covers your phone screen
>>59197747Weed cat.
>>59197645Not even getting Brave Bird is kinda nuts
>>59197748Cofagrigus has always been a sleeper pick. Surprisingly bulky with a very annoying ability to deal with for physical attackers and decent supportmovepool. Runerigas has to be similar, but more physically orientated.
>>59197756Does it? Doubtful
>>59197758Mega-dactyl would be scary as fuck if it got brave bird head smash and rock head.
>>59197761Flower trick always crits. Ignores the defense boosts
>>59197748I was pleasantly surprised by Mega Ampharos.
Any use for the Fat Rat? Just caught a shiny in ZA, he's one of my faves.
>>59197745Pikalytics is VGC focused, you really need to follow the Japanese scene to keep up with singles. But the Japanese site that I know from SV that had usage stats and links to player blogs hasn't updated for Champions yet. I'd just look at the in-game battle data and see what's being used along with popular teammates.
>>59197770Doubles support? It has access to Fake Out and Lightningrod.
>>59197761Flower Trick Crit ignores def boosts, immune to hypnosis(if you're not Protean), and can generally KO before threatened with scarf.
>your pokemon gets frozen!>fuck>your pokemon thaws out on the same turn!>AHAHAHA FUCK YOU!What a roller coaster of emotion there
>>59197645It doesn’t learn Double-Edge anymore?
>>59197770I had 2 ready from gen 6 and 7, but Raichu's main utility is lightning rod and there aren't any electric types common or threatening enough to warrant using Raichu as fake out support over sneasler, or Incin, or even Blastoise or base Kang.
how do i make emolga work
So I want to ask /pcg/ what would they do in this singles scenario>your pokemon is azumarill at 50% and their pokemon is M-Greninja (Protean-Poison) at 1 HP>you know their Greninja has Sludge Wave and they know your Azumarill has Aqua Jet>you don't have any other pokemon that can outspeed GreninjaIn this scenario, would you Aqua Jet to an obvious switch or you use Play Rough to hit the switched in pokemon harder? I know the latter option opens me to them reading me using PR and them using Sludge Wave to knock out pikablu
>>59197789Some kind of doubles supporter with Nuzzle and Speed Swap
>>59197770Wait for its mega forms, I guess? It's currently serviceable as a nuzzle + lightning rod support with Gyarados, but no one uses that pairing
>>59197789It's terrible. Best I can offer is you put it next to a ground pokemon and spam earthquake + discharge
>>59197789Wish I knew how to make her work too, bro...
>>59197794What's the downside to Aquajet here? Slightly less damage? And the downside to Play Rough is death?
>>59197740you were someone's forced 50, congrats
>>59197794Need way more context, depends what Pokemon each player has in the back and how high ranked your opponent is
>>59197748Could you post your setup? Runerigus is a favorite of mine, but I'm horrifically retarded, and haven't found a good niche for it yet other than Body Press setup memeing in Singles. Great for Ranked ladder, horrific for any other game I play with friends packing a Sableye or Gengar.
>>59197702In an ideal world this should apply to Tyrantrum and Aurorus too.Unfortunately bullshit reigns and everything is unfair.
>>59197805>>59197808All right. Here's the rest>60% Zard X + 30% Corviknight on my side>100% Meowscarada on their sideI guess I got greedy thinking that I could nab the cat with a Play Rough. Maybe Aqua Jet is the right choice that won't cost me the game
>>59197770It gets fake out, has the fastest nuzzle, lightning rod and generally has good support options like electroweb and knock off. You can probably make it work but like the other anon said there aren't a ton of electric types/moves you're trying to redirect in the meta rn. I guess it forces an archaludon with a partner that doesn't want to attack raichu to either Draco it or spend two turns killing it with flash canon
>>59197818They are both viable if you are good enough, at least. Can't say the same about the likes of Kabutops.
>>59197815Mines for a trick room team, and its usually sitting next to T-tar or Aggron.Max hp and the rest split into defenses.Trick Room, Willowisp, Ally Switch are the three main moves.The last move I've been swapping between curse/memento/disable. Curse and memento to suicide once it has no more job to do and disable to fuck with predictable attackers. I havent tried a body press set because Aggron is already doing it on my team, but I could give it poltergeist if I wanted it to attack too.T-tar and Aggro are fighting move magnets so ally switch is great on a ghost mon. Nobody ever expects the first ally switch in a match.It survives a darkest lariet from incins on turn 1 too and steals intimidate which is pretty funny too.
>>59197819Aqua Jet was way safer, cats are almost always scarf, if he wanted to kill your azu it meant locking into a move that then probably couldn't deal with the rest of your team.
>Getting to click a Sun Boosted Eruption on Torkoal under Trick RoomYou better resist, boy.Currently using Farigiraf, might consider Oranguru, for instruct sillyness.
>>59197676I'm running a team that is going well.KlefkiMiloticTorkoalgreninja-physicalVenusaurM-HoundoomBasically i setup screens with klefki, change to torkoal, use laval plume, change to houndoom he gains flash fire, mega evolve, use heat wave boosted with helping hand by the torkoal and kill stuff.I think he can otk even archaludon, but sometimes i just use klefki+milotic to kill pelipper and sleep the entire enemy team and use houndoom to kill the rest, i use destiny bound too to secure kill against stuff like tyranitar.
>>59197765If Archaludon can exist then Aerodactyl can hand Head Smash and Brave Bird.
>>59197748Ive really liked mega clef for support. I think it's going to get seen as the alternative redirecting mega to in the future. It's got two great immunities and I think the only downside to running it is the same as mega sco is that you're taking the mega slot for a support Pokemon but I think there's setups where it's more than worth it
Mega Aggron fully Sp.Def investment, Sp.Def boosting nature, supported by Aurora Veil Ninetales. I really wanna try this out. With Veil up Aggron becomes silly tough.
>timing the first turn so the mega reveal lines up with the spooky synth part of the champions song at 0:50absolute kino, I'm the bad guy now
>>59197748It gets Wonder Room which although pretty circumstantial can be an extremely funny move in some circumstances.
>>59197819If you auto lose on missing a hard read like that then you have to analyze future turns to judge if it's necessary. I dunno the Meow set but I can imagine several ways to win even if it switches in on an Aqua Jet.
>>59197840Good shit, I'll give it a spin. I'm worried about its overall survivability long-term, but I can rock with this under Leftovers, likely. I was intending to build a TR team at some point with Crabomidable anyways. Thanks, Runebro.
>on a 7 win streakI'm afraid to continue battling
>>59197778>>59197784>>59197798Interesting, I've been going off meta with my teams and made it to Ultra 2. I might be able to make him work on my rain team. I noticed hes got a decent movepool of physical attacks but he does better as a speed natured sp atk user right?
>>59197876>I'm worried about its overall survivability long-termThats the best thing about it. You don't want it to live too long (at least for my support set) but enemies also don't want to attack it because of the ability and its perceived threat level.I lead it with the t-tar a lot who in comparison looks way more threatening, and with some glaring weaknesses and it wont steal your ability on contact. Enemies really want to hit the t-tar. Many games i just protect t-tar and trick room turn 1 and the t-tar eats 2 abilities for free and now has trick room advantage and he can just rock slide away. If t-tar has a bad matchup I can also cover the switch in with ally swap. If he's run out of things to willowisp and ally swap isn't useful anymore, I suicide him with curse/memento to get usually my mega pokemon in safely. More than half my games runerigas seems to live long enough to kill itself. Sometimes I seem to fight somebody who know about runerigas and they blow him up though with spec attacks.I do give mine a mental herb even though taunt seems pretty rare too.
That feel when you forget to mega evolve
>try to set up trickroom>trickroom mon gets doubled and dieswow I sure love staged youtube bait strategies
>>59197923Give it fake out support or redirect support on turn 1 then
>>59197907My Raichu was always AV, timid, and that item isn't in Champions right now.Raichu is going to be extremely difficult to make work and realistically you're only stopping a scarfed Rotom in the meta right now, which is very dependent on what they lock into.I like Raichu a lot, but there is no Tapu Koko, Zapdos, Manectric, etc.
>>59197926which means I waste at least two turns of trick room because I'll have to switch out that support seems ineffective
>>59197923>try strategy>do it wrong>"it's the strategy that's bad not me">"players who are better than me using this strat are faking it"if you're over the age of 18 and feel this way it's over, I'm sorry
>>59197930More effective than losing turn 1.
>>59197923Be a joker and use two trick room setters at once
>>59197930Well duh, there needs to be a price to pay.
>>59197930Not if the fakeout is from an incin with parting shot.
>>59197923>if I watch something on youtube I should be able to do the exact same thing regardless of my skill levelBrainrot
>>59197923What if I told you that it's almost always staged?
>>59197923Run Mimikyu if you really really really want to brute force turn 1 Trick Room every game.
>>59197910In your opinion, while Curse/Memento seems like a cooler catch-all, would there be some Self-Destruct merit to consider too? I was debating popping it on mine over Rest, because my Singles Rune is up creek without a paddle if its Chesto Berry gets Knock Off'd, but if I can't hit anything Ghost with Body Press and get walled by bulky Fairies like Meganium, I dunno how useful SD would be, even in a Doubles setting.
>-1 speed Chomp still outspeeds and OHKOs Mega GatrMaybe it was a bulky build
>>59198006It would definitely have the element of suprise on its side. My gut says thats probably not worth it generally without stab normal boost, or having the normal gem in the game at least.
>>59198023Min neutral is slower than -1 max Garchomp, so yeah.
>enjoy building themed teams>have a sandswept ttar and a sandstorm pattern vivillon>combining the vivillon with talonflame and exa is somehow doing wellyippieeeethat sandstorm pattern was so hard to find back in the day too, I specifically got it for a singles sand team where it ran safety goggles to not take sand damage. I'd like to get a sandswept exa too but sword and shield mark grinding is really annoying.
mega aggron players are fucking insufferable
I'm becoming reliant on the Coil Milotic. I need a new Pokemon to centre a team around that forces me to learn better switching and such.
>>59198117thanks to all THE WALL memes running around the past week or so, but maybe the counter memes will start showing him the way out soon
>>59198143I'm too set in my ways with Scald and Ice move to switch to Coil...
>>59198143You are the reason I now run a scarfed elec mon.
>>59198023>jolly mega chomp outspeeds adamant mega pedolesson learned
>>59198117Just bring a special attacker bro. It's not that hard
>>59198193i don't care about mega aggron itself, i can deal with it. the players are the insufferable ones.
>>59198198What so you saw maybe 4 or 5 WALL posts in the last week?Yeah sorry that happened to you man
>>59198204>4 or 5motherfucker i've probably seen like 45 today alone, not including any youtube stuff or twitch chats
>>59198209Pokemon memes? On pokemon internet?Maybe some kind of blindfold is needed
>>59198117it wouldn't be that bad if they also weren't complaining about losing all the time. gee i wonder why that is, could it be that your LE WALL isn't quite as strong as you want it to be but you have no personality of your own so you have to assume the position of resident meme follower
>>59197612Araquanid, come back!Go! Raichu!The opposing Pelipper used Hurricane!It's not very effective...(Raichu lost 41.5% of its health!)The opposing Archaludon used Electro Shot![Raichu's Lightning Rod]Raichu took the attack!The opposing Archaludon absorbed electricity!The opposing Archaludon's Sp. Atk rose![Raichu's Lightning Rod]Raichu's Sp. Atk rose!Blastoise used Water Spout!It's not very effective on the opposing Pelipper.It's not very effective on the opposing Archaludon.(The opposing Pelipper lost 100% of its health!)(The opposing Archaludon lost 97% of its health!)The opposing Pelipper fainted!The opposing Archaludon fainted!I'm ass in this game but that was so satisfying
>>59198023Was it using DD or was it under tailwind? If so I am not sure why you expected anything otherwise.Bulk mega gatr is more common because hes better on trickwind teams than trying to setup dragon dance. Dragon dance is better for singles mega gatr.Anyway I commend you for not using dragon claw. I’ve seen a lot of people that think they can make that trade
>>59197870>Zard megas>aurora Veil, but it failed!>heat wave spam to victory
It feels like potential variety is dying off already and teams are looking more and more standard. Is there something missing from the meta that im not thinking of? I got to mb4 with mega lucario and it feels like im gonna have to retire the stupid furry already.
>>59197515Bros, I just lost a battle on Pokémon Showdown. Does that make me a campaignshitter now?I don't wann be a campaignshitter.
how autistic would be making a gym leader/monotype teamis the current pool even big enough for it
I wanna rape whomever decided sound based attacks go around substitute
>>59198254nigga we hold monotype tournaments for every pokemon game. Join in the fun and make a monotype team
>>59198242Did you forget about rocks or something?17 Atk Aggron-Mega Rock Slide vs. 0 HP / 1 Def Charizard-Mega-Y: 156-184 (101.9 - 120.2%) -- guaranteed OHKO32 SpA Charizard-Mega-Y Heat Wave vs. 24 HP / 23+ SpD Filter Aggron-Mega in Sun: 141-168 (83.4 - 99.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO32 SpA Charizard-Mega-Y Heat Wave vs. 32 HP / 32+ SpD Ninetales-Alola in Sun: 152-180 (84.4 - 100%) -- 6.3% chance to OHKOTheres no way you are keeping charizard in that scenario if you actually expect an ohkoThey will just switch to matcha afterwards too.Honestly maybe I shouldnt be telling you this but I’m sure you will underestimate it anyway
>>59198254I ran into a guy with a mono ghost team and the ghost gym trainer title.I whomped him with tyrannitar but I hope hes doin well
>>59198268IF you are running rock slide it means you are likely giving up stab heavy slam/iron head.It's a good coverage move to cover zard but its hard to fit in his move set if you are doing iron defense body press too.
>>59198258Quit hiding behind substitute and come out to fight hahaha
>>59198279Why would you do iron defense body press? Only a retard would do that? Its completely unecessary when the point is to win by attrition. Avoid running setup moves in doubles, it can bite you in the ass if you predict wrong on team preview.
>>59198258>m-my strat shouldn't have countersThere are reasons why Grass is immune to seeds and Dark is immune to Prankster
>>59198279I don’t think a spdef careful set will ever run iron defense. Its also not good in doubles.
>>59198258Nice plushie>encoreNow make 3 more!
>>59198303Mega Aggron is just a bad version of Corviknight and they run body press iron defense
Think I'll finally crack Master Tier with this?
>>59198334Yeah. If you’re bad and apparently you are. Not my problem that you make bad trades.
Can you not use your mons from Home on a different Switch profile? I made a second account to fuck around with meme teams
>>59198336You have the OP mega. It's embarrassing that you aren't in Master Ball already
>>59198334So this is the inside of the mind of a charizard Y user.
>>59198336you can literally get master with the worst 6 random shitmons, it doesnt matter, its all skill issue
>>59198345I just made this. Got tired of Water Spout Blastoise getting clapped by everything.
>>59198343nope, home is connected to your nintendo accountyou'll have to play through gen 8 and 9 again to get everyone, if you have a hacked 3ds you can at least pksm anything from gen <7
>>59198307Every aggron should run spec def you muppet.The extra evs in defense are a tiny upgrade compared to the improvement evs make to spd.1 Iron defense lets aggron punch through resistances with body press easily. Also it is good in doubles. If you get 1 iron def up and the enemy only has phys attackers left you already won regardless of type matchup
>>59198336Don't use Play Rough, you kill the dragons, and more, with Triple Axel, and don't use Knock-off, use Throat Chop.
>>59198362Its completely pointless to do that though. What other than a special fire type or earth power is going to kill aggron?No seriously tell me. Why would I run iron defense on a base 250 defense mon with filter when literally nothing physical threatens me unless I play like a fucking moron?32 Atk Garchomp Earthquake vs. 31 HP / 0 Def Filter Aggron-Mega: 46-55 (26.1 - 31.2%) -- guaranteed 4HKO
>>59198382Neutral special attacks hit aggron pretty hard actually. Shit like electro shot.
Is it even possible to make a team that works around hazards? feels like VGC is simply too fast for it.
>>59198359No giraffe I take it? Makes sense.
>>59198382So you can actually pick up KO's with body press.You don't want your bulky mon to just sit there and do nothing.
>>59198360>home is connected to your nintendo accountIt is, but you can still pick any save file on your Switch to move Pokemon around in. With Champions though it's not giving me the option to link to any other save file.I guess the work around is to transfer to other saves, then transfer them to the 2nd Home, but that's messy and has some limitations.
>>59198398In SV Stealth Rock saw use on some Ting-Lu + Dondozo teams, it's niche but can work with the right circumstances. I used Kleavor a bit in Champions too and denting things like Charizard and Incineroar is neat.
>>59198268Sometimes dipshit, the value of just completely crippling your most major threats is enough win a game.If you have to trade 80-99% of 2 mons health to maybe KO 1(keep in mind that there's a partner next to Zard), then you're in a horribly losing position. Outvalued.
>>59198398Very difficult. Not enough switches happen in doubles to make it reliable, which means you need to be forcing people out with roar or dragon tail or something, which has negative priority. You need to really out play people and also hope they don't have mons that can ignore hazards
>>59198402Why do I need to “pick up” ohkos with body press when instead I can have flinches and counter play to the main weakness of the set, which is also very common and also if they can’t fucking kill me and I have sinischta?Do you even play doubles?>>59198390Nobody is talking about aggron surviving special attacks. Theres a reason why the calcs show specially defensive aggron as well. Retardo anon thinks he needs to run setup moves on corviknight or mega aggron in a doubles meta.
mega scovillain feels so awkward to try and counter
>>59198427>Nobody is talking about aggron surviving special attacks>What other than a special fire type or earth power is going to kill aggron?Good one pal. You clearly havent even tried it based on how aggressively mad you are about aggron
>>59198421You do realize a mega aggron is 100% gonna have a sinischta running in the back right with trick room too? I also gave you the scenario of a retard making a bad play which is staying in on charizard y and trying to click aurora veil which nobody is ever going in front of a charizard to do unless they are in poke ball tier.The ideal scenario is much worse for charizard y. They can open with aggron and a trick room user with mental herb then you’re just fucking cooked. Do you also think its not gonna have protect for some reason? What are you doing? Running a rest talk set?
>>59198437I’m not gonna entertain your posts any longer if you refuse to follow the conversation. Stop wasting time with your drivel
>>59198447>anon thinks Sinistcha is surviving T1LOL LMAO
>>59198427Because non body press aggron gets cucked hard by burns and intimidate/parting shot and body press also fucks incineror sideways.Aint nobody is running screech or whatever to cuck him that way.
Will Kitt take these useless things for her "services" instead? Asking for a friend of course
>>59198449>Has his exact words quoted back to him>Hur you no pay attentionDesperate
>>59198459>doesnt follow the reply chainYou are insanely retarded
>>59198462>I’m not gonna entertain your posts any longer>Entertains my posts longerYup I'm the retard. I'm I still following you?
>>59198454Nta but burn still reduces body press damage iirc
>>59198454Burns? Initimidate? You switch out. And you trick room.What intimidates aggron is special attackers and trading with a mon that he’ll lose to, which includes things as weak as sinischta if its running shadow ball.So yes it definitely has counterplay, but you’re not winning just yoloing charizard into an aggron lead that favors it, you’re only gonna win that if the aggron user doesnt understand how to use it.
>>59198398I use SR in Singles because I got sick of getting cucked by surprise Sash on Battle Spot and it's stuck with me since. Not even the best reason to be playing SR in in 3v3 format since the Sasher is more often than not the suicide lead
>>59197515Is this team here https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2K1E9OkwvG4 good? Or should I go with a more training wheels team to grind to master?
>>59198481Nigga youve been arguing with like 4 different people and treating them as one. Go have a breather before you argue yourself into a grave
>>59198472NTA but follow the reply chain anon. It starts with someone replying that a charizard y even with drought can still lose to a prepared aggron then the charizard anon argues back by saying aggron doesn’t run rocks because of iron defense. Nobody was talking about aggron surviving strong special attacks as you said here>>59198390And here>>59198437You also completely misread anons post in that one.
>>59198491mega gatr is really not good and requires good understanding of how you can capitalize. i'd say there's way easier teams out there.
>>59198495>NTA but follow the reply chain anon. It starts with someone replying that a charizard y even with drought can still lose to a prepared aggron then the charizard anon argues back by saying aggron doesn’t run rocks because of iron defenseThey were not the same poster to begin with.
>>59198499Point still applies since its kinda cringe to continue reading the exchange. Please read before making comments.
>no scovillan to be foundKojo found dead in a septic tank.
>>59198481Which mega Aggron teams are winning tournies right now?That matchup into Zard Y where you have 3 mons cripplingly weak to fire is a losing position. Doesn't matter if it's Aggron+Ninetales, or Aggron+Sinistcha, or you try to switch it in afterwards.Mega Aggron is so bad that Rock Slide doesn't even 100% guarantee a KO on my Zard Set at 252 Atk and Adamant.I'm tired of playing this pretend game where we make believe that Aggron is good.This is not even considering support mons which you've told me 2 of them and they don't live either.
>>59198511Actually charizard fag hijacked my earlier discussion thankyou very much.This other guy was so rabid he just assumed everybody who replied to him was the same person and then disregarded everything prior.Enjoy smelling your farts though
>>59198491Change gardevoir for the giraffe running mental herb and trick room. You have to understand speed tiers and know when to capitalize on trick room and when to capitalize on tailwind (or both) but if you do theres almost nothing that walls gatr. Idk what set wolfey is running but do liquidation, aqua jet, double edge, protect, the priority is important to pickup sash kos. Focus on giving him helping hand and use kingambit as your backup crutch and intimidate deterrent.Feraligatr + sneaslerFeraligatr/Kingambit + giraffeFeraligatr + Talonflame would be the likeliest leads.It might be worth it to run quick guard over flare blitz but im not really sure, flare blitz really helps against steel types.Low kick might be worth it over iron head on kingambit for mega aggron and other kingambits.Use matcha to heal a gatr that has to double edge alot like a burned one, helping hand will also help you pick on some ohkos like going right thru multiscale dragonite. You also have to be careful of mega aggron, you can’t let them heal with sinischta.Its a hard mon to pilot a team around but if you’re determined it works fine.
I just finished usum for the 3rd time. So I don't need any of the legendaries. I've seen people asks for mons here before. Does anyone need anything?
>>59197780Hypnosis isn't a powder move so grass types still get hit by it.
can they just fucking deal with crits somehow? how fucking often are we gonna have wins and losses that are entirely swinged by the fact that some fucker crit? like, i get that crits are kind of necessary, but make some moves always crit and lower their damage and remove random ones.
>>59198518It does though. You’re not even using the right calculator or evs. I also noticed you’re conveniently clicking overheat now. If you do that rather than click heat wave then sure but you’re also gonna have to accept the possibility of getting countered by trick room.Also I never said ninetailes was a good partner for aggron, only pointed out the possibility of still dying to rockslides.If anything a good partner to have in the back is a different weather setter and sinischta
>>59198520Doesn’t matter. Its embarassing to read ad hominems driven by misunderstandings or lack of reading comprehension.If you didn’t have an argument or decided to stop replying then thats fine, just consider my statement aimed at the other anon.
good news, ive made it to 19s with mega lucario. Bad news I don’t think he’s come out even once in a single match, this feels bad.
>>59198498>>59198541shit, I guess I should aim for something easier then. thanks for the input guys
>>59198564You do know that the only thing that changes with EVs is there's one extra point right?Where do you want that extra point to go and do you think it makes a difference?I'm not clicking Overheat either, it's heatwave every time if I see you lead with any of those combinations mentioned before.
>>59198234Again
>>59198579>1 extra pointYou are literally running a charizard that has a few points invested into defense and hp just to make sure it doesn’t get ohkod by some things and it gets clapped if you need to click heat wave instead. What makes (you) think aggron can run a specific spread to survive sun boosted heat waves?
The fact mega Aggron is seen as based should clue you in that it’s bad bro
>>59198513Scovillain has good qualities but surviving Charizard isn’t one of them
>>59198567>EmbarrassingWhere do you think we are? Isn't there some doorbells you should be ringing?
i am so tired of crits. getting crit through a anti-type berry, by a 70% accurate move and getting OHKO'd by something that has a 6.25% to OHKO which wouldn't even have been remotely close if it didn't crit is tiresome.it's the kind of tired that sleep won't fix.
>>59198579Maybe most aggron users are auto-wins for you I suppose, but theres always a gotcha.Ignoring the fact that you yourself are spreading EVs out, I’m sure I don’t need to show you the rock slide calc with 0 attack evs for this one right?32 SpA Charizard-Mega-Y Heat Wave vs. 31 HP / 25+ SpD Aggron in Sun: 109-130 (61.9 - 73.8%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
When they confirmed that they were gonna do balance patches depending on pokemon usage I was very happy, but I didn't consider the possibility that the most broken pokemon mega in the format was gonna be charizard, there's 0% chance they'll nerf charizard
>>59198595Careful MAggron survives Heatwave with 100SpDef, 252HP which leaves 156 points for Atk, which gets you 99.3% damage on a high roll with rock slide.Just for you I put 1 extra point into Atk.Calcing specifically to survive heat wave all the time and have even a chance (18.8%) to KO Zard puts with this Adamant or Brave set in pic rel.I will not translate those into Champion's EZ digits for you.If you're running Mega Aggron into a Zard lead, then I always have weather supremacy turn 1 unless you are going to have some fast mon that you lead with set rain like Sableye.
>>59198634>still complaining about crits even after gen 6 nerfed them into the ground
>>59198637There is literally a champions tab on the calculator you’re using arrogant-kun.You’re also forgetting something important, aggron can still score the ohko on you even with that weird ev spread
>>59198636Real balance patches are a pipe dream as long as they refuse to overhaul stats. At best they will make mechanics changes to abilities and nerf a move by 5 BP.
>>59198647The EV spread was made pre-champions for mons that aren't in the game. Not worth changing right now.I am confident because Aggron needs very particular support. You have to lead Aerodactyl+Aggron, Sableye+Aggron, Basc+Aggron to get me to switch, but I'd see that in the team preview too.Basically Aggron as offensive presence doesn't even register to me. I'd take that trade 9 times out of 10 depending on what's in the back.
>>59198637You’re forgetting that aggron doesn’t have to mega evolve in a lead scenario like that. If the mega aggron user is actually good they can actually lead with something like a farigiraf, set up trick room, then end you on the next turn or force you to switch out. Alternatively, they can protect the aggron with redirection, reading your potential switch, eat the heat wave, then ko you with stab rock slide. The hp loss wont be an actual problem for them because they can still switch to sinischta on the back. Your scenario is that of someone literally eating an attack they don’t have to take just because.
>>59198660Read this:>>59198662
>>59198662What do you think Overheat is for if not Farigiraf? People who really, really want TR up will lead Maushold+Farig or some kind of redirection. Leading Farig with Aggron would be suicide.
>>59198636>balance patches depending on pokemon usageI mean, what can we even expect from thisI don't see them directly modifying base stats or even the attack power/accuracy/rates of attacks since that kind of thing feels like it needs "permission" from the mainline gamesChampions already uses modified movepools but taking away and adding back moves via balancing patches doesn't seem right
>>59198643>into the groundthey're still the absolute biggest swings you can possibly get outside of getting free boosts, the fuck are you on about. yeah, they got nerfed damage-wise, but they also got buffed by the odds of getting a crit massively. going from x2 to x1.5 also didn't take into account the sheer amount of power creep that would take place in just 3 generations
>>59198562turn them into mini z-moves>moves cannot crit normally>starting from turn 3 each mon can turn the next attack into a crit, with a 4 turn cooldown>anything that boosted crit chance now lowers the cooldown by 1 turn for that pokemon only>Superluck Slash/Night Slash/Shadow Claw/etc. with Scope Lens means you can crit every other turn, which is about the same as the current ratio
>>59198678>they also got buffed by the odds of getting a crit massivelyNo, that got nerfed too. It's 1 in 24 now.
I want to use Mega Crab, Trick Room is the only way, right?
>>59198636>When they confirmed that they were gonna do balance patches depending on pokemon usageWhen did that happen?
>>59198675Then you die to rockslide anyway. They won’t get trick room up but they still have backup trick room in the back for sinichta which no longer fears sun boosted heat wave.The giraffe doesn’t die to heat wave either
I really hope they can use Champions as a way to fix up weaker mons. Also to change some of these abilities, because shit like Mold Breaker on fucking Mega Emboar is absolutely meaningless.
>>59198697I still think it’s cope.
Is it a pipe dream to hope they balance Mega Drampa and give him Drizzle
>>59198685the fuck? did not know that.>1/24 (≈4.17%)yeah then i call absolute bullshit on the coding in the game because 4.17% is happening absolutely way too often to be correct. i have spent entire games where either me, or the opponent get a crit with at least one mon every turn. that should absolutely not be happening.fuck it, tomorrow i'm just gonna tally how many games and how many moves the opponent do and how many crits happen in total. lets get scientific in this fucking cunt game.
>>59198513Scovillain is good imo but I think as the meta develops we'll see a little less of it because of the prevalence of flying and poison types in the meta
>>59198687Not the only way but probably the best way. It's not gonna work in tailwind even with max speed.It's typing makes it hard to be a bulky setup mon either no matter how many sinistchas youre running
>>59198677balancing individual moves would be a nightmare, it would turn into the exact same problem League of Legends has with item balancing>nerf item (or a move in this case) because of the top user>a dozen other guys get nerfed indirectly because of it, they just sink further out of viability while the top guy has enough value elsewhere to stay on topThe only thing I can see getting changed without causing a giant domino effect would be base speed
>>59198694>you die to rockslideWe just spent a bunch of time establishing that you have to engage in serious suboptimal sets to get Aggron to actually KO with rockslide.Only 15% of Aggrons are carrying rockslide and then they'd need a very particular EV spread to MAYBE 1HKO.We haven't been talking about my partners on the field and what they do either, as if I'd let aggron rockslide at neutral attack anyway. How does Aggron do at -1, what about after the T1 parting shot?
>>59198699Most likely and it's unfortunate. There's plenty of Pokemon I'd love to use, but they clearly lack the tools to be somewhat usable, like Emolga.
>>59198675I’ll mention 3 scenarios for you, all involve not mega evolving aggro which is to his favor in a charizard lead unless the other lead is something that threatens his base form like sneasler, and even then you can still run sturdy for that.>you click overheat on aggronIf its sturdy aggron, it survives and you die unless you double clicked into aggron. If its isn’t you kill aggron. Alternatively aggron protects and giraffe gets trick room up>you click overheat on giraffeGiraffe dies but charizard dies to to rock slide>you click heat waveYou die to rockslide, aggron mega evolves next turn and opponent switches its partner into sinischta
I bought a crystal ball
I love that Mega Delphox can audibly laugh at my opponent once I have them cornered by clicking Nasty Plot, it's been a real highlight of the game
>>59198721>Emolga.unironically, emolga fucking slapped in early z-a ranked. small-ass target, can use Charge and delete something.
>>59198720They don’t need any particular ev spread to ko if you’re not mega evolving turn 1 because of stab and heat wave no longer kos either.Iron defense is suboptimal, especially in this meta.
>>59198721A lot of things would be much more viable if you simply gave them a move or two, but there’s also the issue of speed
>>59198703Berserk is a good ability why tf you want drizzle?
>>59198703mega gallade not being updated with its regular form's new ability sharpness almost feels like an oversight, but then again with all the flinch bullshit going on in doubles maybe they feel there's no need to change inner focus
>>59198720>what if parting shotOh brother. You’re just grasping at straws here. If you managed to go with the perfect counterplay lead then you win obviously.
>>59198743I mean it should be inner focus then sharpnesses
>>59198722Base Aggron doesn't KO at -1. In fact it struggled with the 252HP 252 SpDef careful set to KO without a high roll.You're arguing a losing position and hopefully proving to a bunch of anons that you don't lead Aggron, if you even use it.
>the aggron argumentation is still going onwell i guess that guy got his point proven by saying that mega aggron players are insufferable
CHECK OUT MY COOL OFF META TEAM and its a random shitter paired with 5 other monsters and gets brought to maybe 20% of games. VGC has good moveset variety but im not impressed with these usage stats. So many teams share the same shit
>>59198763Here's how Aggron could still win the election!
Are you a Pokemon Champions™ yet anon
>>59198765Vgc is guilty of having lots of “im the best at everything” pokemon. Like incineroar himself is not broken, but fills so many niches and nothing really can replicate it. Off the top my head the only similar mons are hitmontop, scrafty and arcanine and they’re all way worse.
>>59198775Kitt sure makes me feel like one
>Arceus drops in the game>every Plate has to be purchased for 700VP since they'd be free versions of the existing type-boosting items otherwiseHopefully the Memory items for Arceus at home will be free at least
>>59198763It takes 2.I could probably start a retarded shitfight with gengar admirers too.
>>59198756>at -1So you always lead with vgc cat and charizard when you see aggron is what you’re saying?>arguing a losing positionYou are grasping at straws. Theres literally more scenarios where you lose than when you win. You’re even running with a suboptimal ev spread.Like I can literally just say “well maybe aggron is running stone edge” if you bring up “well what if intimidate”.
>>59198781Idk how this pokemon never got significantly fixed aside from the bp boost on its signature move. It needs help and i think they intended for it to be good
>>59198763>aggron players are insufferable because his argument doesn’t fit MY narrativeThis is usually how someone reacts when they don’t have an argument to someone. Nevermind the fact the current debate is entirely peaceful with no ad hominems thrown in any of the latest posts. You are fucking childish.
>>59198427>Why do I need to “pick up” ohkos with body press when instead I can have flinchesI couldn't possibly imagine why KOing something is better than making it flinch.
I finally got to master ball tier with a rating of 1727. Using this team, I also came across a weird interaction with pickpocket sash into sneasler where it's white herb got stolen but unburden still seemed to activate.
Has anyone made Mega Skarm work yet?
>>59198677Didn't Morimoto work with the Champions team initially? He was the main guy doing the balance for Gens 5-9. They're probably still consulting him.
>>59198786Unfortunately tried too hard to be Arceus liteHowever base 100 on every stat is the domain of Mew/Jirachi/etc and they maybe thought too high for a "regular" Pokemon, so he ended up with 95
>>59198799Just wait until amoongus comes back. That will be its time to shine
https://files.catbox.moe/3m9gvv.mp4https://files.catbox.moe/ru4ib2.mp4
I hope they don't immediately add the missing items. This weird limbo of testing phase is actually the most fun I've had in years.
>>59198792It is when it gives you more coverage and a guaranteed ko on the currrently most overused mega in the metaAggron isn’t afraid of physical attackers at all anon, you don’t need to make him physically bulkier
>>59198806Honestly I'm happy for now not having to play mindsweeper blind into shit like weakness policy
>>59198804What the fuck is going on with 4chan and catbox today It wasnt letting me post due to spam filter and now the links are dead
>>59198796Based manectric
>>59198796Because Unburden activates when a Pokemon that had an item no longer has it. So using the item, the moves Thief, Fling, Pluck, and Bug Bite, and the abilities Pickpocket and Magician all activate it.
>>59198800https://games.gg/news/pokemon-champions-ivs-removed-heated-debate/Not sure if he's still directly involved, but the producer did clash with him over the removal of IVs for this game>>59198799Switching in to eat a physical attack with Weak Armor Skarmory for the speed boost then Mega Evolving seems to be the intended playstyle, but Skarmory's coverage seems a little lacking
>>59198542Got a Shiny Incineroar in a Luxury Ball?
>>59198806They need to add back the defensive ones at least. Without Safety Goggles the only answer to Zard + Venusar is Overcoat Kommo-o. And Covert Cloak would make Fake Out spam less prevalent.
>>59197747Taunt it
>>59197747good ol magic bounce
>>59198817IVs do add depth to the game. You can do gimmicky stuff like reducing LO chip, or having Amoongus underspeed base 50s while still being faster than min speed 30s. Even more niche stuff like Lonely Stakataka to get +attack Beast Boosts. It's understandable a guy who both made and plays a complex system wants to keep it complex. I still think removing them is for the best. People used to run level 48s for hard Trick Room teams and they put a stop to that by forcing level 50. It makes the game easier to play when you don't need to account for a super niche of super niche situation.
>>59198801If archaludon can get 600 bst then surely a man made god can as well.It's not like it is unprecedented for man made mons to have 600+ bst.
>>59198852I think it's gonna need a new evolution to push it above that at this point, maybe with a 105 or even 110 spread
>>59198873What about mega silvally.115 in every stat, except hp and a new abilty that is just unnerfed protean.
So the only cool thing that has happened with Raichu on my Rain Team is that i was able to stop an Archaludon and a frw different Rotoms from getting off their attacks on my Pelipper. Electroweb, Knock Off and Fake Out all came in handy. I still don't think he's super viable but man taking out an opponent with a +1 or in one case +2 Electroweb is pretty funny. Also Swift Swim Bearctic is a pretty cool option to take some opponents by surprise. Still trapped in Ultra 2.
I feel like ZA could use more post launch content. Feels fucking bad.
Gentleman.I have decided to tank my own elo so I can play without worrying about my honestly paltry place on the ladder.
>>59198975As someone who tanked their elo creating a fun team, get ready for a lot of people using gravity and hypnosis/sleep powder.
Can I only have 20 Pokemon visiting champions? It won’t let me transfer even though I have box space
>>59198796How auspicious.
>>59198953ZA's post game was abysmally boring and don't get me started on that god awful dlc lol
Anyone got any suggestions for this team? Whimsiscott has been kinda mediocre outside of fucking over fake out users (not named incineroar) and I wouldnt mind replace dnite and kang. Prima, Scizor and Aero have been amazing
>>59198823kek I forgot the flinch is a secondary effect. Seems like the main reason anyone uses the fucking thing
>Venasaur used sleep powder!>Garchomp avoided the attack>Garchomp used rock slideI want to hang Venasaur players absolutely the lamest shit
>>59197885I had pic when I was climbing to MB and I don’t think it will get better than that. Best one in MB was 7
When do you put your stats into HP over a defensive stat?
>>59199073Depends if you are playing into the pokemons strengths or trying to cover its weaknesses
>>59199073Always because I’m too fucking lazy to do specific calcs
>>59199033>Playing Mega Golurk>Opp uses protect on his 21% Aerodactyl>Farigiraf used Helping Hand!>Golurk used ice Punch!>Unseen Fist>Aerodactyl couldn't fully proect itself!>KOGame winning KO for me. I wonder if my opp just didn't know about Useen Fist?
>>59198543Meowscarada is a Dark type.
>>59199073High defense low HP? Put EVs into HPHigh HP low defense? Put EVs into defenseProbably
>>59199107That doesn't matter for Hypnosis.
>>59199107I don't think that matters for a status move
>>59199070>see charizard/venusaur lead>lead with Feraligatr and Talonflame>immediately know they are gonna click heat wave like a gorilla or mega evolve charizard and protect while using sleep powder with venusaur>mega evolve gatr and click double edge into charizard>click flare blitz into venusaur with talonflame>either they switch out zard and lose their mon in the back or zard heat waves for no damage into mega gator and dies>venusaur dies to sun boosted flare blitz>they rage quitI am starting to really hate those leads myself. Before i would protect expecting the double target into gatr but im done with that, idc if they get a lucky burn when charizard can’t do anything to gatr
>>59199025A lot of it relies on hype moments and aura. Which I enjoyed, but it definitely is a bare bones experience.
>>59199073I max out my Mega Gardes HP and Defense so she can at least survive a Gunk Shot, Iron Head, or Dire Claw.
>>59199122you're lucky because 99% venu has sash.
>>59198513>fanfic tournies
>>59199136Not him but what's a good counter for sash Venusaur? It's really gay and annoying.
>clear body blocks parting shot completelyDunno why I didn't know that, but that's cool
>>59199165aero dual wingbeat kills it before it can movegarchomp can rock slide the zard setting sun
>>59199073>Dang I need more Physical Defense>I'll Put my stats on DEF>Dang I need more Magical Defense>I'll put my stats on SDF>Dang, I don't necessarily need either but I could use more bulkyness either way>HP
>>59199170Thanks.
>>59198820that's not a legendary...
>>59199136I didn’t even know thats what they were doing gross I haven’t encountered one like that yet.
>>59199170Doesn't Venusaur outspeed Aero in the sun?
>>59199136>>59199170What evs are the venusaur running. I might consider switching talonflame into aero
>>59199181Got a Battle Bond Frog?
>>59199191It does.
>>59199191maybe I've been lucky, but not in my experience
>>59199193talonflame also gets dual wingbeat but with priority and less attack
>>59199191It does, the typical flow when you open Venu Zard is for the opponent to keep Venu down with a fake out while Aero sets Tailwind,.
>>59199201I need to find the champions damage calculator and run a bunch of shit. Guessing talonflame dual wingbeat doesn't KO it or sneasler.
>>59199216A lot of Talonflame run sharp beak to make it one shot Sneasler but I don’t know if it can Vena
>>59199227I'm very much a trial by fire player which is why my team testing has resulted in me dropping from top 2k to top 30k but just KOing the sneasler is fine, but I noticed some sneaslers are running bulk now
Sneasler needs fully removed from the game.
>>59199231>lead with Sinistcha and M-Garde>fucker leads with the cotton picker and SNEED like fucking clockwork>Trick Room set up after he mindlessly clicks Tailwind>go Matcha Gatcha and Hyper Voice in case he protects>barely survives the both somehow>clicks Close Combat on SinistchaIdk why he fucking did that, but it was one of my wins in my 6 game win-streak.100% if he clicked Dire Claw instead I would've lost.
>>59199165Priority Taunt. Every vena just sleep powders
>>59199232But who will carry me to the top of the ladder if sneedler isn't there?
>decided to use a weird ZardX build suggested by gamewith in singles>first battle versus a M-Gengar lead>M-Gengar used Substitute>ZardX used Flame Charge and gain +1 Speed>+1 Speed allows it to outspeed M-Gengar>Dragon Claw to lethal. opponent forfeitedOkay, I definitely underestimated Flame Charge
>>59199389Sneasler is the opium of the people, you have nothing to lose but your chains.
>Shiny AerodactylIt's time
>>59199232I don't understand why you guys are having so much trouble with sneasler
>>59199395I'm still befuddled but not complaining at Zard's speed being untouched after going Mega because it retroactively gave me a justification for slapping scarf on H-Arcanine.
>>59199232Kneel
this fucking guy.
>>59199395Zardx would be so much better if it wasn't floating in the sky like a fucking kite
>>59199432That's been a thing since XY. It's unchanged speed still makes it a target for Garchomp to feed it with rocks, for example>>59199447Side effect from XY sky battle. Then again, I could say the same about pokemon such as Glimmora
>>59199442I just one shot his ass with draco meteor. One trick pony ahh pokemon
>>59199194yes
>>59199454No you can't, because glimmora is this weird fucking unknown creature formed from the dreams of a sleeping crystal entity, it flying makes sense. Char X just looks fucking stupid.
>>59199395Are you running any bulk on zardx? I was thinking about trying a defensive invested adamant zardx with flame chargensince you can't out speed these jolly scarf chomps anyways after a single d dance
>>59199463>Rock - Poison and no Levitate>somehow seems floatyIt just looks weird>>59199464Yeah, the spread is 32-1-27-0-0-6. It also runs Will-o-wisp so you can burn any non-fire pokemon
Thinking about using Aqua Tauros to resist rock slides and wild charge rain teams.
>posted by pokemon championsDoes this mean they are going to be making changes every month?
>>59199486>posted by pokemon championsit's clearly not the official account but i think monthly changes are expected yea
>>59199497Nah, it clearly is. No idea why it's not verified though. Also, maintenance in the next 28-ish hours
>>59199486Just to be sure there's no misunderstanding: these are all changes that are already in Champions, not an announcement of things to come.
>>59199511I know, but considering the timing of the post (near end of the month), are we going to expect more of these in the future? That's what I am thinking
>>59197626its not even that good
>>59197658any non bulky floette gets outsped and one shot by sneedler so thats not true
>>59197626That fucking monster gets checked by a lot that it's literally bullied off the recent tournament. It's no Xerneas
>>59197923wow if only there was a way to exploit the enemy double attacking one slot, if only there was a move that prevented that mon from taking any damage that turn while the partner got a free move
>queue singles to get daily done>lead sneasler>dire claw procs sleep first turn, knock out second turn>dire claw procs sleep again on second pokemons first turn>game ended due to forfeitI fucking love this lil nigga
>>59198771Lmao it's true aggrons cool af but sadly a lot of the people that use him are all insufferable faggots
>>59199537>lil nigga>has the same physique as a grown ass man
Which weather is the most fun to use?
>>59199597I like using Sand. Don't like the mons used on Rain. In the middle of building Sun. Haven't tried Hail.
>try rando unoptimized TR team to tank own elo while having fun, because playing under elo pressure doesn't work for me>still winI am a victim of my own succes...
>>59199597Rain, because stomping on niggers with electro shot archaludon and rain and adaptability boosted scarf basculegion is fun.
>>59198259Cant wait. I have mine ready>>59198254Im currently testing mono bug on singles. Will probably update it for doubles once i noted down what the team is lacking
>was about to beg for archaludon >just pulled it in gachafeels good man
>miss a 95% accuracy move>get flinched >still win
>>59199460Would you trade for a Japanese Floette?
>break my six game winstreak because Hyper Voice misses TWICE>win a game after where Hyper Voice crits FOUR TIMESToday was my last day off, now I'm fucked waiting till next Monday and Tuesday.
>>59199597Sand unironically.
I love ignorantly clicking the same move over and over again and winning
>>59199666>digits>pokedex #666 is vivillonyou know what you must do
>>59198254i have a mono poison team i use for doubles in casuali bring ariados to every game and he always puts in work every time
>>59199703share ariados set.Is he just the sticky webs + rage powder mon, or can he do other stuff as well?
>>59198799theoretically it functions well as a sneasler check since it's immune to dire claw, takes neutral damage from cc, can oneshot it with brave bird and can't have that move redirected because of stalwart, but to my knowledge it hasn't done anything noteworthy yet
>>59199704personally i don't like using speed control moves on ariados (even though it has like 5 different options and they're all good) just because he's so unbelievably slow that the only place you'll ever get them off is under trick room where you don't want them, so i instead chose to make it focus on using struggle bug and knock off to neuter opposing pokemon until they're too weak to actually threaten any of my bulky monsrage powder is a given and i put toxic spikes in the last move slot, which is admittedly a little superfluous with glimmora being there but i find it handy in cases where glim goes down to a special attacker and didn't get to proc debrisariados' typing is actually fine for a mono poison team because it's neutral to ground and you can afford to give it some physical investment because of struggle bug
>>59199732ariados has some surprising stuff in its movepool honestlythere's the aforementioned speed control options (sticky web, string shot, electroweb, toxic thread, pounce), acid spray, skitter smack if you want to weaken physical attackers instead (and don't mind the 10% miss chance), infestation for chip damage/trapping, foul play, baton pass for pivoting and even disable if you want to be annoyingi wouldn't expect it to perform in actual ranked battles but theoretically it can soak up a hit from a sneasler that isn't using acrobatics or something since it resists dire claw and quad resists cc
Leopard gets prankster double team and baton pass... What's the most cancerous partner to use this with just for shits and giggles?
>>59199744*LiepardFuck
Can someone explain to me how the fuck mega floette outsped my max speed scarfed ceruledge and killed with chilling water before it could use destiny bond? It was a stupid situation to begin with but what the hell?
>>59199750mega floette has 102 base spdceruledge has 85 base spdsolve for x
>>59199758Well i guess I'm retarded thank you
>>59199761it's okwe're posting on /vp/ we're all retarded
>>59199710I mean sneedler often runs sash so you won't be able to ko unless you're runnung dual wing beat.Also it outspeeds skarmory and eventhough it isn't super effective I don't think skarm wants to tank cc from sneed.
>>59199766Wait no I'm not the scarf should put me over.
>>59199744coil milotic
>>59199744SubPunch Pikachu.
>>59199793Ceruledge is such a sleeper pick
Dude I swear to go casual matches are just the most cancerous shit ever. Fucking perish song in casuals fucking kill yourself
Like HOLY FUCK man I'm SEETHING
>Have kingambit and mega crab on the field.>my king uses kowtow cleave>his kinggambit uses low kick>it failsWhat happened here?
>>59199872Maybe a genuine bug?Low Kick only "fails" against Dynamax fags, usually
>>59199872as per usual, we dont have any more information that you do. Unless its super obvious, hard to say.This is why we need a replay function
>>59199886I did mega evolve crab that exact turn so maybe that's why.I do feel bad though since that genuinely won me the game.Low kick would probably oneshot my mega crab and my king had no low kick of it's own to counter it.Oh well.
>>59199889Let's work backwards.What can make low kick fail?
>>59199895Mega Crab is definitely in the heavy bastard range
>>59199897If it was ghost type? Champions is made out of the most godawful spaghetti code, so god only knows what the actual problem is. They might have some bizarre if else in there somewhere
>>59199897>attacking ghost moves>attacking mons which is intangible (fly, dig)>mons already dead by the time you attack them>you are actually attacking H-ZoroarkUhh, i think thats it.
>>59199872Was your crab paralyzed?
>>59199907Only crab that turned into a mega crab and my own kingambit were on my side of the field.Not a single ghost type to be found also it didn't say x was unaffected, but it literally stated low kick failed.>>59199909No flying or digging monsBoth my mons were still aliveNone of us had a zoroark.>>59199910NoAll I can think of is that he misclicked like a retard and attacked into the empty spot next to his kinggambit.Kinggambit was his last mon.
>>59199866bro calm down it's a game for 6 year olds
>>59199929New bread.
>opp has milotic in pre teams>i have incin>lead incin anyway>he leaves milotic behind expecting me to leave incin behindwhen do the mind games end
