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You clicked Fake Out against Tsareena Edition

Pokémon Champions is a free-to-play online battle simulator available on Switch with a mobile release later. It features ranked, casual and private battles for both singles and doubles, and will be used for VGC tournaments in 2026.

>News
Newest Patch Notes: https://en-americas-support.nintendo.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/71525/
Global Challenge 2026 Special Roster Released: https://serebii.net/pokemonchampions/recruit/globalchallenge2026specialroster.shtml
Champion Tier & Master ranks 1-3 unlocked for current season
Free Machamp mystery gift code: CHAMP10N
Mobile release possibly leaked for June: https://xcancel.com/CentroLeaks/status/2041378934739108104

>Resources and useful links
https://champions.pokemon.com/en-us/
Community Tournaments usage data: https://pikalytics.com/
Ladder usage data: https://pokechamdb.com/en
New Player Guide(NEW PEOPLE READ THIS):
https://rentry.org/pcg-guide (now taking suggestions and feedback)

Quick FAQ
>Do I need my own Pokémon to play?
No, the game features a recruitment system, but transferring from Home is recommended to save time and resources.
>What makes the game so much more accessible than before?
All aspects of a Pokémon are customizable with VP, a currency earned simply by playing the game. IVs are also removed.
>Is there single player content?
No.
>Do I need a Nintendo Online subscription?
No.
>What's the starter pack?
US$6.99 one time purchase for 50 training tickets (fully train for free), 30 Teamate Tickets, 50 extra box space and the LGPE trainer music.
>Is anything locked behind a paywall?
So far everything gameplay relevant is also purchasable with VP. Mega Kalos starters and E-Floette require ZA transfer.

>/pcg/ OP pastebin (use this if making new thread):
https://pastebin.com/d2FJZdPh (embed)

Previous Thread: >>59235888
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>tfw got to Master Ball 3 by playing ONE ranked game a day
I'm not gonna make it bros.
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>>59240262
I'm getting on home now. Let me see how to trade that way again, it's been quite a bit.
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>>59240254
look at it this way
your pikachu has 91 spatk, doubled with light ball is 182
the rest of your attackers have that kind of power WITHOUT sacrificing their item slot or being a paper-thin shitmon
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>>59240296
Figured it out, it's 8157 3303 3975 for the room trade code.
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>tfw you can't get out of Pokeball in doubles
I don't know what the fuck to use anymore. I'll just stick with the Tyranitar starter team.
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>>59240301
expired, 3924 8989 4782
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>>59240302
ive been rocking the ttar starter team on the event, and so far im like 6wins 1 loss.
It really isnt that bad, though i cant be arsed to further improve further just for testings sake
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>>59240302
sticking with the trash starter team is exactly why you are losing.
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>>59240302
Jolly Mega Tyranitar with Low Kick.
Adamant Excadrill.
Garchomp cheese with Bright Powder.
Then anything else.
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>>59240304
annnd just realized you posted like 30 minutes ago so I'll try to keep an eye on the thread as I do other things.
>>59240302
I'm in master using a team I just dick around with but I never change my four that I bring, which is talonflame vivillon ttar exa
sometimes you lose, sometimes you win, just tailwind sleep powder turn one, max speed and spa/attack on everything, vivillon behind tailwind outspeeds most shit, have ice punch on ttar for chomp, etc, just put everything to sleep
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>>59240302
just make a basic bitch rain team
>pelipper
>archaludon
>mega dragonite
>male basculegion
>sableye with rain dance
>defiant kingambit for the cat
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>>59240312
>compoundeyes sleep powder
jesus christ how horrifying
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>>59240302
copy cybertron teams on yt
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>opponent wants TR up
>lead mon that I know 1hkos most things that want to set up TR
>my support mon stops priority
>my mon relies on a 90 acc move
>I miss 50% of the time in these T1 situations
>all downhill from there unless I massively outplay them
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>>59240319
play rough moment
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>watch japanese streamer
>singles
>full stall on both player's teams
>game goes to time with both of them having all 3 pokemon
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>>59240327
This is what Smogon wants every singles game to be
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>>59240327
Japs play every online game in the most aggravating way possible. They're cancer in Master Duel and they're cancer here.
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>>59240327
Jap streamers are the only ones I've seen tryhard in singles. The rest of the world does not give a shit about that format.
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Why do japs not like doubles?
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>>59240369
eyes too small. can't focus on 4 pokemon at once.
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>>59240369
they like triples
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>>59240261
>>59240280
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GJZIX6BbB3s [Embed]
Pretty cool. I definitely want to try it. I didn't think utility leads would be so good but Infernape has something Sneasler doesn't in singles and that's Stealth Rocks.
>>59240369
VGC sucks. BSS isn't much better but at least it's more fun.
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>>59240369
They do? They have the most world champions out of any country.
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>>59240327
I’m surprised they don’t all play smogon singles.
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>>59240389
>it's more fun
It allows too many degenerate shit like stall to be fun though
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>>59240327
I swear Japan are masochists with this game, Champions is the worst BSS format I've played in any of the games
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>>59240401
It's infinitesimally less monotonous. Both suck though.
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>>59240327
Kek imagine playing a full 20 minutes game only to draw and get 0 VP for both players. A literal sucker's game
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Are sacrificial megas here to stay or will they be forgotten about once more megas get added?
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>>59240410
>>59240389
>I'm bad at the official format the post
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>>59240417
Victreebel will likely stay relevant in singles
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>>59240425
Then again, you're using the mega slot for a sacrifice. Seems pretty wasteful unless it manages to go 2-for-1
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>>59240304
Sorry senpai you took a while so I figured you noped out. Lemme get my Charizard into home then we can trade if you're still here
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>>59240291
When is Tsareena useful compared to the giraffe?
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>>59240435
its more offensive, can lower attack, and immune to sleep powder/rage power. that's about it, besides a few move set stuff i guess
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>>59240435
Zen headbutt ko sneasler
Triple Axel KO chomp or aero
Trop kick does loads to Basc if not outright KO
Too threatening to ignore
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>>59240443
>Zen headbutt ko sneasler
Farig gets twin beam to rape sneasler through focus sash
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Is there a limit on how many quick coupons we can hold? I got around 800 so far and I'm trying to get an Arcanine.
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>>59240431
Im back myself, again, if you're still here
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>>59240457
Yeah I'm here, putting my Charizard into home.
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>>59240463
I'm hanging around, let me know when you get a room up.
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>>59240455
I doubt it. I only have around 200 myself. Keep hoarding them. You'll be in a great spot if they release a bunch of new pokemon. You'll be able to rapid-fire lineups and get all the best pokemon immediately.
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>>59240449
Cool, the other coverage it has is dogshit.
Farig is for TR, too passive otherwise.
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>>59240455
I can confirm it goes over 1000
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>>59240457
>>59240465
Okay I have an unforseen issue. I was using my Charizard for vgc and It says I can't send a pokemon back from champions that's in a competition but the competition has ended. I don't think I will be able to get it back until the results are tallied. I can add you to my friends list on home in the meantime though if you want
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>>59240478
Hey, no worries. I'm cool with that. Kind of forgot how to add to friends via home, though
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Oh wait, found it, CFJHDNFBLMFD
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>>59240487
Sent, name is swax
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>>59240421
The official format sucks dick. It was fun in gen 9 because of tera and open team sheets but the game is too fast for any real decision making. 6v6 singles is the only remotely playable way.
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>>59240443
Does Sneasler not one-shot with dire claw?
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>>59240407
Really? Why? I never played bss on other formats
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>>59240495
Yeah but you can run keiba berry
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>>59240490
added, thank you
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>>59240498
NTA, but Champions forces a 20-minutes duration for every match which will results in a draw where neither party wins anything.
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>>59240327
Japs are also the ones that will time stall you every fucking time they are gonna fucking lose.
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>>59240531
me when I just play this in undocked mode because it increases the fps and I can just watch shit on my laptop if people decide to timer stall
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I hope in the future they differentiate the GC from normal play in some way, like showing items or something just to make it a little bit of a competitive experience closer to a tournament or at least feel different than ranked ladder 2.0: limited time edition.
I barely played but had fun in the few games I did. My favorite game was dogwalking a perish gengar player by just going hyper aggressive. If both pokemon can kill gengar in one hit, they don't know what to do and most of the time just scramble to respond. Also Sableye is very overrated imo. It's great when people don't know how to work against it but I feel like most of the time you can look at a team and guess 3/4 of its moves and then it's easy to handle.
I think I have more fun playing this game sporadically rather than every or every other day.
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Today I went from 1779 to 1590. My last game a Greninja froze every single one of my pokemon with ice beam. I don't even fucking know anymore man
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>>59240575
variance is part of the game
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Jeeze man I suck
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>>59240575
Stop playing while tilted.
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>>59240575
Outskilled
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>>59240554
I only played 33 games in the end and ended on the crux of getting into 1,700 points but it was alright in the end. What really struck me was the moonruners
>9 out of 10 played some gimmick shit that was easy to deal with
>Would stall games out for as long as they could even though they knew they couldn’t win
>These are the people Nintendo said could earn Championships points while other players couldn’t
>The 1 in 10 who played a normal team either got perfectly read by me or I got perfectly read by them. No in-between
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>>59240657
Fighting jap meme squads at night has unironically made me a worse player
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>>59240291
Is Mega Blastoise just noob tier dogshit?

Will Delphoxite come to the game organically or is it gonna be Z-A pay2win?
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I want singles players to leave. I don't want to hear what mons do or don't work in singles I don't care what the meta is I don't care about your low iq format for children with a decision space that is only 1/6th of the real format. It is not stimulating or interesting strategically in any way.
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What's the Blue-Eyes White Dragon of Champions?
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>>59240673
charizard
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>>59240671
Mega blastoise is 'fine' as a buildaround, stop hating on the guy. There are far more useless megas out there
You could trade for the delphox, since it isnt valuable in ZA itself, unlike Floette. Yes it is retarded it isnt given for free, but insofar Floete is the only real pay2win mon
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https://x.com/freezaiYT/status/2051002169499734024
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>>59240688
Impressive. Very nice.
Lets see randbats and randbats doubles
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>>59240672
Stealth rocks
Roar
Roar
Switch
Toxic
Rocks
Roar
Switch
Switch
Switch
Roar
Rocks
Toxic
Baneful Bunker
Whirlwind
Toxic spikes
Roar
Toxic spikes
Switch
Rapid spin
Rocks
Switch
Toxic
Switch
Toxic
Rocks
Baneful Bunker
Whirlwind
Roar
Roar
Rocks

And GAME!!!
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>>59240672
Protect
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>>59240673
Personally I would say Garchomp because it's freaking everywhere with multiple sets
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>>59240698
erm akshually, the current cancer on ladder (that ive seen at least) is rocks, yawn, slack off, yawn, yawn, slack off, earthquake, etc
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>>59240698
Kek that's pretty much it but instead it's a draw since neither sides forfeits
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>>59240694
randbats doubles is rancid. normal randbats is great and probably the bigger than everything else put together
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>>59240698
*taunts u*
ok now what
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>>59240327
And people cried because it doesn't have 6v6. As if those games wouldn't take forever. Imagine trying to do 45 matches on a weekend where each match can take an hour without time.
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>>59240673
zardY. Fail to respect him and you get burned.
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>>59240531
You do know why that is, right? A lot of Japanese people will play in internet cafés since decent internet at home is somehow more expensive than in the US in a lot of cities. If they stall you long enough, odds are that you will not have enough time to play again, lowering their odds of facing you again. They do the same shit in fighting games, or in mobas. It's more prevalent on PC games, since internet cafés focus more on that, but a lot of them has opened up sections to bring a Switch 2 and it's been particularly popular since Champions' release, so a lot of them will literally stall for the petty reason of wasting your money for the internet café time you've paid for.
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>>59240698
>Stealth rocks
I set up Belly Drum
>Roar
Negative priority. I outspeed and OHKO with Liquidation.
>The battle has ended due to a forfeit
And GAME!
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Oh my fucking God I just outplayed this dude so fucking hard I'm crying. He got a dragon dance and coaching boost on his very first turn and I called out every single one of his moves and out boosted and swept his entire fucking team ahhhhhh I needed that win
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>>59240727
That's really pathetic desu. I've done a salty protect here and there at the end of a match but damn
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PSA!
INSTRUCT DOES NOT WORK WITH MEGA SOL SOLAR BEAM
THANK YOU

FUCK
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Gastro my beloved, please come back
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>>59240825
Love my snail wives
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>>59240769
Reminds me of the arcade thing where if they manage to beat you, they wait until you put a coin in for the rematch, but dont give you the rematch because they already walked out the building.
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>>59240673
Garchomp. Has been relevant in both singles and doubles since its inception and will probably always remain that way.
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>>59240297
The reason you’d use Pikachu is the same reason you’d use Raichu (Fake Out/Nuzzle/Lightningrod), except you trade speed for power. It’s not unreasonable, and I’ve seen it enough to consider it worth using.
Also, it’s 204, not 182.
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>>59240495
No, you can calc Tsareena to survive an adamant Dire claw.
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>>59240967
But unlike the giraffe she can't KO Sneedler through a sash
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>>59240971
Tsareena is not a single focus mon.
The pressure it puts out on mons that farig can't deal with is tremendous. An uninvested Basc can't survive trop kick.
Look at the meta mons that farig threatens vs what Tsareena can. Decide if you need TR on your team, because if you don't then Tsareena may be the better option.
Dual wingbeat from Aerodactyl also kos through sash and outspeeds unless they have large amount of bulk(on a sash build, yeah right). Sneasler is prominent, but many teams can just deal with it.
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>>59240673
>overused Timmy mon that looks strong on paper but is shit until it gets really strong legacy support because it's the most popular thing in the game
It's Charizard, undoubtedly.
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>>59240989
>An uninvested Basc can't survive trop kick.
Basc out speeds and OHKOs with Last Respects.
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>>59240673
Design wise of course.
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>>59240731
Funny how the free Whimsicott rekts all Azumarill with just a giga drain from turn 1.
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>>59241200
i know that feel
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>>59241200
I had that happen to me 3 times in a row. Then I realized it was a bright powder sand veil garchomp.
I deserved that loss
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>>59241200
WoW deserves to go back to pre-buff accuracy, god i fucking hate rotom with WoW, or WoW in general
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>>59241192
>Whimsicott used Giga Drain!
>[Azumarill's Sap Sipper]
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>>59241224
Lmao sap sipper
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>my last mon Mega Scizor
>opponent last mon Rotom-W that somehow didn't use or have Will o' Wisp
Singles Ultra Ball 3 getto
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Now that we've had 2 VGC competitions, hopefully the next one is a gimmick ruleset
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>>59241224
sap sipper means you don't have huge power, which means at even +6, azumarill really isn't even a big threat. it can't even ohko most things at +6 adamant without huge power.
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>>59241305
mega is a gimmick ruleset, and we're only going to be cycling to the next batch of megas and then have one more with all megas and both cycles of mons available.
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>>59241310
I'm talking about alternate rulesets for online competitions, not season changes
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>>59239099
How does talonflame baits stealth rocks?
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>>59241320
It's 4x weak to it obviously.
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>>59241317
you can always find alternate rulesets for online competitions on limitless. most online competitions are just going to follow the same ones as the regular ruleset though.
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>>59241332
>most online competitions are just going to follow the same ones as the regular ruleset though.
There was a time when gimmick rulesets were the majority, and VGC comps were only done a few times during the pre-worlds season. SV was lazy with them and it's a no brainer to do them more often for Champions to keep the game fresh.
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>>59241356
little cup my beloved
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>>59241356
but that was also before VGC became as big as it is nowadays, where people use these tournaments as legitimate training and checking their teams if they are good enough
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>>59241173
Assuming it has teammates that are dead.
Tsareena that is calcd to survive adamant dire claw also survives 150BP Last Respects 60% of the time.
It's like saying "yeah well Zard can outspeed and KO it!" No shit, given the right board state, but there's more going on in Pokemon than one turn and you can also run protect while you reposition a pin. That's how the game works, Tsareena is so much better into the meta than Farig and pretending otherwise is rather insane. In fact, it being good into meta mons is the only reason it's worth discussing.
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>>59241261
I too would never use will o miss
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>>59241379
Actually, I got my calc wrong because Basc is generally scarfed jolly, and I had adamant set.
Tsareena actually survives 150BP Last Respects off a Jolly Basc guaranteed if you calcd to survive Sneasler.
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>>59241356
Jeeze they really do steal shit straight from showdown
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I just started yesterday and picked Ttar. So other than the free mystery gift Dragonite and Machamp, the rest of the team are Sylveon, Whimsicott, Drampa, Arcanine Aggron, Garchomp from yesterday's recruitment and a Palafin from today's recruitment. I've done all the missions and got to Great Ball but I have no idea how to move forward, obviously my free team isn't optimal but I'm bad at team building and don't really know how to optimise my shit. How do i git gud?
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>>59241389
How is any of that stolen?
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>>59241392
for the most part you just pick whatever team looks cool and just follow it.
Alternatively, you can just polish the tyranitar team. pick up excadrill plus sinistcha and you are halfway there.
Whatever your case is, the fastest way to get pokemon is NOT through the ranch, but trading via home, so dont worry too much about pulling the right mons, since for the most part everyone in this general is happy to just give you whatever you want.
For now I suppose figuring out what looks cool to you. In my opinion, just stick with the popular charizard team is probably fine. Its easy to learn, its very popular so there are a million videos about it, etc.
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>>59241392
Get a trick room mon and run t-tar and aggron under it with sand.
That team is one of the better starter teams, it doesn't need much extra to make work. Drampa loves the trick room too
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>>59241392
Get garchomtite and make a special attacking sand force mega chomp and fuck up every duraladon rain team you run into with earthpower
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i'm on a seven win streak in master ball I'M GONNA BLOW IT
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>>59241426
Post team so we know exactly how impressive that is
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>>59241433
Infernape/Tyranitar/Lycanroc/Aerodactyl/Tsareena/Camerupt
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>>59241445
7/10
Expected a lot worse (better)



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