Why doesnt it have drizzle? It literally says it in its dex entry:>Drampa's cells have been invigorated, allowing it to regain its youth. It manipulates the atmosphere to summon storms.
>>59241493How does this even make sense? If I hatch a Drampa egg it's already old? And it needs a mega stone to look young again?
>>59241528This too. Retarded they haven’t given it a prevo yet.
>>59241493Or the rain version of Mega Sol. Or setting up Rain if hit by a move aka Sand Spit rain version. Fuck whoever accepted Berserk remaining.
>>59241493Eh, keeping berserk isn't too bad either desu
>>59241619>Or the rain version of Mega Sol.Wonder which would've been better.
It doesn't suit it gameplay-wise>nerfs its important Fire moves>doesn't want Hurricane, Thunder or Hydro Pump for coverage
>>59241660Why not? It has Blizzard as well.
>>59241493It learns rain dance already stupid
>>59241676That's shit. Weather setters need it as the ability to be really good... E.g. opponent expects to outspeed Kingdra, and you swap in Drizzle and now it moves first.
>>59241703>>59241493>It manipulates the atmosphere to summon stormsby using rain danceif you wanted to make a thread about compshittery just say so. You asked why it didn't get drizzle. That's different.
personally I think it's cause berserk is a very undistributed ability only belonging to drampa and a regional variant of a fucking legendaryso they didn't want to "get rid of it" and thus just kept it for the mega, that's a very gamefreak thing to do
>>59241676>>59241714You'll never guess what move Kyogre, Politoed and Pelipper can use
>>59241493Because ZA Megas are a fucking disappointment
Sounds like it needs regenerator + berserk
>>59241766>Because ZA Megas are a fucking disappointment
>>59241762And they have Drizzle too, cool. Those are different pokemon. Drampa wasn't given drizzle. That's it. He doesn't "deserve" to have it just because his dex entry says he can make rain appear. He can just use rain dance... if it said something like "rain follows it wherever it goes unerringly" I could see it, but your argument is so stupid. "hurr durr pokemon that do have drizzle also learn rain dance!!!" are you advocating for everything that can learn rain dance to get drizzle wtf lmao
>>59241776Anon you're making up things in your head for the sake of arguing. Please calm down and take a break from the internet instead of crashing out.
>>59241776>why does this not have drizzle>because it has rain dance>so do the other mons with drizzle>OH SO YOU'RE SAYING EVERY RAIN DANCE MON SHOULD HAVE DRIZZLE?
>>59241652Drampa doesn't have STAB Hurricane, Thunder or Hydro Pump, it doesn't even learn Weather Ball
>>59241493Dex entry writers just write whatever, they don't pay attention to movesets or abilities
>>59241785>>59241795thread opens:>hurr?? drampa can make rain.... so why don't it have drizzle???? you need drizzle a make rain!!!!me:>it can just use rain dance, duhyou:>YEAH WELL UH OTHER MONS WITH DRIZZLE CAN LEARN RAIN DANCE!!! AS IF THAT MEANS LITERALLY ANYTHING TO THIS CONVERSATION
>>59241799A lot of Pokemon development is sadly disconnected like that. It's all just a bunch of different segmented teams doing their own thing and mashing together an end result, I remember the Frillish/Jellicent designer being upset that it was taken in a "scary" direction with the Ghost typing because of the need for type variety
>>59241809Drampa having Rain Dance is not a reason for it not having Drizzle. This is proven by other examples. You have cognitive dissonance.
>>59241827Rain dance doesn't preclude drizzle, no. But that was NEVER the argument, brainlet.>it can cause rainThat's all it was EVER claimed to do. It can do that with rain dance. Any attempt to extend that into>THEREFORE, IT SHOULD HAVE DRIZZLEis an extra step that has absolutely no basis in reality. There's no reason to assume it would.
Gay Freak
>>59241762Why would mons with drizzle having rain dance mean drampa should have drizzle?
>>59241493Can it even use drizzle effectively? Though keeping berserk was the most boring fucking thing they could’ve done
>>59242102nobody said that
>>59242120He just did. One guy said drampa had rain dance and that was how it made sense in the dex entry. Other guy said that the drizzle mons can use rain dance too. How does that mean drampa should have drizzle? how does that contradict what he said at all?
>>59242133saying that drizzle mons have rain dance doesn't mean saying that having rain dance means getting drizzle, it means that a pokemon knowing rain dance does not exclude it from getting drizzle as an ability and therefore has no reason to be brought upit's a complete non-sequitor as saying "it has rain dance" is not an answer to the question stated in the OP
>>59242154OP said it should get drizzle because it can make rain... it can make rain without drizzle. There's no reason it SHOULD have drizzle. Other mons also being able to make rain has absolutely no bearing on it. You would have to read "it can make rain" as "OH IT HAS TO HAVE DRIZZLE THEN" for OP's stance to make any sense at all, which is entirely retarded because it can just use rain dance... to make rain. Other mons having rain dance has nothing to do with that. Other mons having drizzle has nothing to do with that. It's a completely retarded stance.
>>59242217>a pokemon whose lore is summong storms having a weather ability to summon stormsIs a perfectly reasonable and logical stance to take, especially when the base mon already has Cloud Nine as its HA showcasing its ability to manipulate the weather (and also granting it a niche at that). Yes, it can make rain without Drizzle. So can the other Drizzle mons. Therefore that fact has absolutely zero bearing on whether or not a Pokemon can/should have Drizzle and has zero reason to even be an argument in the first place regardless of what GameFreak's decision was. What is confusing about this to you?
>>59241493Only shillmons get good megs.
>>59242217>dex describes the ability as if it’s a noteworthy attribute of the mon >it isn’t reflected as a noteworthy attribute of the mon in game, as “learning rain dance” has been a mundane movepool addition, given to tons of random mons since its inception>meanwhile, drizzle is not mundanePretty straightforward
man pokemon fans are so ungrateful, imagine hoping a pokemon designed after a storm cloud gets a storm ability instead of the ability it already has, you should be happy that the toilet bird drooling over you is your weather mon
>>59242297So true! #ThankYouGameFreak
You'll get question'd on why a storm cloud dragon should have a rain based ability while a 600 BST regular ass steel/dragon bridge Pokemon benefits from rain with an electric version of solar beam that self boosts + an ability that increases defense when struck. Or how Drizzle is the only weather not attached to a mega evolution yet, and snow gets two.Fucking contrarian ass board.
>>59241652Mega Sol would be slightly better.Unmissable Thunders and Hurricanes are things that you can’t tell if they mattered or not until someone uses shit like Fly or something.1 Turn Solar Beams are always visible and clearly show the impact with much stronger Grass STAB than Energy Ball.Additionally for Drampa, weakening your Fire moves would harm you vs Steel types due to weakening Fire moves, while Meganium doesn’t have much use for Water moves it can’t use.
>>59242297pelipper would mog drampa and still be the premier rain setter though, you should be thankful game freak spared you this humiliation
>>59242318Oh I meant which would be better between Drizzle and a rain version of Mega Sol for Drampa
>>59242240I bet you think Raichu should have an ability that lets it KO copperajah just because of its dex entry too when it's clearly just a simple description. Dex entries are a paragraph long man, they can't fit more than a bit at a time. So WHY would a random tiny snippet clearly describing a very basic take: "It can cause storms" automatically make you or OP assume it's an ability? It's such a huge leap in logic. It's retarded.>>59242279Aron or Larvitar clearly need a special ability that lets them eat Stealth Rock then, duh. Why would they mention it in the dex if it wasn't uh *checks notes* SPECIFICALLY an Ability the Pokemon has?
>>59241493Give me a pre-evolution, and to maintain the chinese dragon lore, have it evolve at a very high level or in a special event with Dialga or Celebi.According to Chinese mythology, a snake transforms into a true dragon in 1000 years. Some stories also say that typhoons are actually newly transformed dragons ascending to the sky, so having a Thundurus or Tornadus on your team could also work to evolve the baby Drampa.
>>59242338>talks about retarded leaps in logic>makes retarded leaps in logic with le epic random gotcha scenarioslollmao even
>>59242320You could actually just double-up on the setters since in the current meta it’s very useful to have a mid-turn weather change
>>59242353>needing a legendary to evolve a baby
>>59242353This is a very cool ideaYouve outdone yourself nona
>>59242325OhRain Mega Sol in that case. Supporting your team is nice, but you can just do that with Pelipper who already has better support options. With Rain Mega Sol, it doesn’t matter if your opponent has Charizard, Torkoal, Ninetales, Tyranitar, Hippowdon, Froslass, Ninetales-A, Abomasnow, Sunny Day, etc. as Drampa would get every benefit of Rain Mega Sol offensively. A Hydro Pump from Modest/Quiet Mega Drampa would deal minimum of 84 to Max bulk Tyranitar32+ SpA Drampa-Mega Hydro Pump vs. 32 HP / 32+ SpD Tyranitar in Rain: 174-206 (84 - 99.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKOWith Drizzle, Tyranitar would replace Rain with Sand and you wouldn’t even 2HKO.32+ SpA Drampa-Mega Hydro Pump vs. 32 HP / 32+ SpD Tyranitar in Sand: 78-94 (37.6 - 45.4%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
>>59241770Yes, a disappointment
>>59242338>It's such a huge leap in logic. It's retarded.meanwhile mega meganium dex entry>This Pokémon can fire a tremendously powerful Solar Beam from its four flowers. Another name for this is Mega Sol Cannon.
>>59242338you have autism
>>59242416You're all alone on that boat cuckgatr
>>59242432ANON WATCH OUT YOUR MEGA STARAPTOR'S ABILITY IS GOING TO BE DEFEATIST
>>59242434I seriously doubt it
>>59242428tbf to the other anon, truthful advertisement is a luxury saved for special Pokemon.Mega Hawlucha was advertised as getting tougher the longer a fight goes on. That would imply Stamina or Moxie or something. An ability that it’d find useful with like Stamina + STAB Body Press.Instead it got No Guard. An ability it doesn’t actually use itself, but instead has other Pokemon use that ability in a gimmicky strategy.
>>59242428Meganium is a shillmon, so its allowed to get a good ability and correct advertisement
>>59241770>retarded shills here say this design was created because Totodile is super popular in Japan>japanese-only polls greatly prefer Chikorita >Meganium didn’t even get a meme mega, so Toiletgatr literally exists because someone on the team hated Feraligatr that muchlollmao, even
>>59241528>If I hatch a Drampa egg it's already old?Why not? If you hatch a Dreepy it's already dead.
>>59242506You should’ve said Cubone
>>59242338why are you so dead-set on trying to argue drizzle somehow doesn’t make sense? are you autistic or just some idiot shill?
>>59242517He's getting btfo across the board and lashing out. So, autism.
>>59242531it’s such a baffling reaction, we have precedent for dex entries influencing abilities already, even for megas. why act so dedicated when that exists? just take the L and move on
>>59242544It's just regular autism. I thought he's so upset because of people saying "should" and "deserve", but after relooking it's him saying that stuff. Just making things up to seethe at and feel superior over.
>>59241493>let's add thunder storms and still not electric typeMegas were a mistake
>>59242506Dreepy is alive forever in all of our hearts.
>>59241766I vastly prefer the Z-A and ESPECIALLY Mega Dimension Megas to a massive chunk of the OG set honestly, even with some stinkers like Feraligatr and Pyroar
>>59242354>Oh, it must just use rain dance to call rain.>a retarded leap in logic>not assuming that because the dex says it brings rain it MUST have an ABILITY that does so, and can't through other means.>>59242428Meganium's dex entry:>It fires a strong solar beam. We call it a special name.>it has an ability that facilitates this.Drampa's dex entry:>It can make storms.>It has a move that facilitates this.Meanwhile, what you think:>It can make storms.>Therefore, it HAS to have an Ability SPECIFICALLY, it's IMPOSSIBLE for it to have ANY OTHER MECHANIC for doing so.>>59242431Autism is, apparently, when you simply tell someone else that he's wrong. Only autistic people ever do that. Clearly.>>59242517Drizzle would have also made sense... but it isn't the ONLY way it could have done so. X precludes y, y does not preclude x. The fact that it has Rain Dance is enough to explain the dex entry, there were dozens of threads saying as much here on /vp/ before we knew its ability. The problem is when someone is saying "NO IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE! IT HAD TO HAVE THE ABILITY!" when nothing about it needs an ability. Consider what I said here: >>59241776>if it said something like "rain follows it wherever it goes unerringly" I could see it,>>59242531>being btfo is when people keep telling you that you're dumb for not assuming it had to be specifically an ability>>59242544There's no L to take man, if you can't see why "it can call storms" doesn't require the ability Drizzle then you're just not thinking about it.>>59242555If you look back at the conversation it stems from the very, very basic premise: Why would anyone assume drizzle beyond a reasonanle guess at the ability? It's not incoherent with the lore, it's just fags saying "I wish it got drizzle" but being so retarded that they can't understand that that's different from "it only made sense for it to get drizzle".
yeah bro mass reply to everyone that'll prove you're not autistic
>>59243003>NOOOOOO TALKING TO MORE THAN ONE PERSON IS SOMETHING ONLY AUTISTIC PEOPLE DO>STOP DISAGREEING WITH ME! STOP TELLING ME I'M STUPID! AAAIIIIIEEEEEEEEE
yeah bro do an all caps ree greentext that'll prove you're not autistic
I don’t quite get the spergout. If the argument is that it doesn’t need drizzle but its lore can still facilitate it, then you’ve conceded to people saying drizzle makes sense on it.
It's a rude reminder that Game Freak has always been, and always will be, a retard when it comes to stats, abilities, and/or movepools.Were the mega evolutions for Pyroar and Malamar NOT a warning reminder?
>>59243045Scovillain got terrible stats, but a busted ability.
>>59243045We don’t know if they’ll be blessed with broken-ass shit yet
>>59242980>it's just fags saying "I wish it got drizzle"So you acknowledge that people just wish it had Drizzle but you're still so autistically obsessed with being "right" that you have to argue it for some reason shouldn't have the ability because it has a move with the same effect?You got some really weird priorities man
>>59242980>Drizzle would have also made sense...then why are you so mad? no wonder people are calling you a sperg for getting so angry over something you literally agree with
"It learns rain dance/sunny day" is a poor argument for anything which in lore summons weather since almost everything can learn one or more of those moves. The ability to use those moves isn't notable enough to point out. It would be like saying "It has the power to deflect any attack" because they can learn protect. Hence the power to summon weather should be refering to something other than those common moves.
>>59243170good example of that point is Chesnaught getting Bulletproof to fit in with its lore of defending from strong blasts when you could argue "it already does that with Spiky Shield!!"
>>59242980What is your actual issue here?
>>59243041>drizzle makes sense on it.duh. What doesn't make sense is people saying it had to have drizzle because of the dex entry. There are plenty of posts itt of people saying>No but it SHOULD have had it, NOT because I personally prefer it, but because IT'S THE ONLY WAY IT WOULD MAKE SENSE!and that's the issue.>>59243060>NOOOOO YOU'RE NOT ALLOWED TO TELL ME I'M SAYING SOMETHING RETARDED>YOU HAVE TO LET ME BE RETARDED CRITICISM MAKES ME CRYMy second post in the thread is literally all there is to this:>>59241714This entire time, it's been very basic and straightforward.>Why doesn't it get drizzle?>uh... it doesn't need it for that dex entry to be true.>NO NO NO KYOGRE LEARNS RAIN DANCE TOO STOP BEING AUTISTIC BY REPLYING TO ME WHEN I'M WRONG REEEEEEEEveryone who has been replying to this very basic statement with an argument is beyond mentally retarded, entirely moronic, absolutely brainless.If you PREFER it were to get Drizzle, I get it. But arguing that it should have on the basis that it "made sense" is idiotic. Again, see >>59241714.>>59243071please see my rebuttals above. I never even said I disliked the idea, it's everyone arguing WITH me that are beyond retarded. It's like you morons can't grasp that "I want x" and "only x is possible" are 2 different things.>>59243170>poor argumentbecause...?>notable>should beSounds to me like you WANT it to be the case and are justifying it by making up extra special rules that make it that way. No, dude, it can summon storms. That's what the dex says. How does it summon storms? It uses rain dance. It doesn't need to be "notable" and it "should be" only insofar as you prefer it to be.>poor argumentvery basic parsing of the English language is not a poor argument.>>59243187Cherrypicking specific dex entries that conform to your stance has already been addressed here:>>59242338>>59243199above answers should suffice as an explanation. See: >>59241714
>they don't know chinese dragons are very strongly associated with rain and waterit sucks that it doesn't have drizzle for core thematic reasons, nevermind the design and dex entry
>>59243340i'll rain dance on your face with my penos lol
>>59243340>There are plenty of posts itt of people saying>>No but it SHOULD have had it, NOT because I personally prefer it, but because IT'S THE ONLY WAY IT WOULD MAKE SENSE!nah man that's just some bullshit narrative you made up in your head to get mad at so you could pretend like you weren't a dumbass for bringing up rain dance to no effectit should have had it because it's a cool thematic ability that ties into the lore, themes and design of the mega not because of your imaginary argument about drizzle being the only way something can summon rainstorms
>>59242980>>59243340>"NO IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE! IT HAD TO HAVE THE ABILITY!">people saying it had to have drizzle because of the dex entry>No but it SHOULD have had it, NOT because I personally prefer it, but because IT'S THE ONLY WAY IT WOULD MAKE SENSE!No one besides you is saying any of that. You're seething at yourself.
>>59242338>indian elephantcrazy how they were still mentioning real life animals all the way into gen 3
dude why didn't you put a roof over your house you really should have done thatnah man it's ok i have a tent insidethat's dumbno you're dumb for saying i SHOULD have a roof when it's OPTIONAL and i can get shelter in my tent just fine
Berserk is a fun and unique ability to play around, why would you even want drizzle?
>>59243352>>59243353literally every single person who replied to>It doesn't need drizzle, it has rain dance to summon stormswith any argument at all is saying that. You simply cannot argue that it doesn't make sense for rain dance to explain the dex entry without also, by basic, straightforward logic, implying that it has to have drizzle to make sense.>Why doesn't it have drizzle? It summons storms.>It has rain dance to summon storms. There's your explanation.ANY RESPONSE THAT DISAGREES WITH THIS IS SAYING THAT IT NEEDS DRIZZLE TO MAKE SENSE. That's genuinely the only possible way to disagree: "No, it having Rain Dance does not explain it summoning storms, it needs Drizzle for it to make sense with that dex entry". Complete lunacy.>>59243366The argument is actually this:>I started renting from my landlord and he said there was a leak.>I bet it's in the bathroom.>Actually it's in the kitchen instead.>HUH? It has to be in the bathroom! There's more pipes and faucets in there!
>>59243373it would be on another mon but Drampa isn't really the best user of it, and having it be on a Mega is really dumb since you can't utilize items that take advantage of the gimmick such as a simple sitrus berry healing you back up after getting the stat boost
>>59243387They actually aren't saying that. Maybe just read the words as they are.
>>59243387>>59241827
>>59243396>>59241839
>>59243402>>59241827
>>59243396>>59243402>>59243404Not really seeing any of those things you have in quotation marks all over the thread, but okay.
>>59243391You give the old man his tea and life dew him
>>59243340>well yes I do agree with everyone and I think it makes sense but the way I think they said it makes me have an autistic meltdownthis fucking board is beyond me
>>59243404>Drampa having Rain Dance is not a reason for it not having Drizzle.what part of>that was NEVER the argument,>>it can cause rain>That's all it was EVER claimed to do. It can do that with rain dance. Any attempt to extend that is an extra step that has absolutely no basis in reality. There's no reason to assume it would.what do you not understand?
>>59243414>well yes I agree with you buthas basically become the motto of the modern internet, you can type just about damn anything and it won't matter because the other person has convinced themselves in their mind that you think something random which never even crossed your mind
>>59243414>>59241714>if you wanted to make a thread about compshittery just say so. You asked why it didn't get drizzle. That's different.lol>Autism is, apparently, when you simply tell someone else that he's wrong. Only autistic people ever do that. Clearly.>>NOOOOOO TALKING TO MORE THAN ONE PERSON IS SOMETHING ONLY AUTISTIC PEOPLE DO>>STOP DISAGREEING WITH ME! STOP TELLING ME I'M STUPID! AAAIIIIIEEEEEEEEE
>>59243420>Why doesn't it have drizzle?>because it has rain dance>So do the other Drizzle mons, that doesn't matterIt could not be any more simple but you still don't learn
>>59243423>you think something random>>59243387>That's genuinely the only possible way to disagree: "No, it having Rain Dance does not explain it summoning storms, it needs Drizzle for it to make sense with that dex entry". Complete lunacy.
>>59243431Let me make one teensy tiny edit to your post here to clarify something that shouldn't need clarification.>>Why doesn't it have drizzle?>>because it has rain dance[THIS IS THE EDIT: AT THIS POINT, THE SENTENCE OMITS "BECAUSE RAIN DANCE IS HOW IT SUMMONS STORMS. THIS EXPLAINS THE DEX ENTRY." THIS PART SHOULD HAVE BEEN OBVIOUS BECAUSE THERE'S NO OTHER POSSIBLE REASON TO BRING UP THE ONLY OTHER EXTANT GAME MECHANIC THAT SUMMONS RAIN.]>>So do the other Drizzle mons, that doesn't matter
>>59243431Nta you are being obtuse he is saying>just because its dex entry says it summons storms doesn’t mean it has to have drizzle
>>59243440and? nobody is arguing otherwiseyou're doing the same thing as him by coming up with imaginary points, people arguing it should have had drizzle is not saying that is must absolutely mandatorily get it and bringing up rain dance has nothing to do with the conversation at hand
>>59243451Ok whatever I’m not reading all this tard autism. Drizzle does not benefit Drampa why the fuck do you want it to have drizzle? Berserk gives it a niche of being a trick room mon that wants its allies to keep it healthy, drizzle is just pointless
>>59243460I want it cause it's a cool stormcloud dragon. I don't care about comp.
>>59243451>>59242279>>59242240
>>59243414He's got long autistic rants all over the board right now >>59239661 he's all over that thread
>>59243427>Autism is, apparently, when you simply tell someone else that he's wrong. Only autistic people ever do that. Clearly.When you know exactly what they mean and start making up quotes to seethe at? Yes, very much so.
>>59243468>i want it to have a boring useless ability for themingYou do you I guess
>>59243471ok real talk I haven't even read that thread, I'm not whoever you think I am over there. Making that clear right now.
>>59243470you're literally linking to posts that prove the post you're replying to correctthe bottom post explicitly goes out of its way to mention that gamefreak deciding not to give it drizzle has no bearing on the argument
>>59241493>pokedex mentions a pokemon can summon weather>pokemon in question doesn't get that weather abilityMany such cases
>>59243481Real talk right back at you, it's incredibly obvious which posts are yours and you're also sperging out in there over how people are wording things.
>>59243478>When you know exactly what they mean and start making up quotes to seethe at?if someone says something absolutely retarded and you tell them, specifically, why they're retarded, and what their retarded response implies? come on man follow this really basic logic ok. Let's use a different ability and a fake mega to make this just a little more fair.>Why doesnt Mega Sunflora have Drought? >It literally says it in its dex entry:>>Sunflora has grown larger or whatever, and it not only faces the sun, but can manipulate the atmosphere to make it sunny.>[the reason it doesn't need drought to explain that dex entry is] because it can learn sunny day, duh.>Oh yeah? Well torkoal and ninetales can use sunny day too>and they have drought too. cool. those are different mons. Sunflora didn't get it. That's it. It doesn't "deserve" it just because its dex says it can make strong sunlight. It can just use Sunny Day... if it said something like "Sunlight seems to follow it wherever it goes" I could see it. blah blah blahSee? Do you not see how it works? The part in brackets was implied, just like how arguing>hurr durr pokemon with drought can also learn sunny daywouldn't have any effect on whether or not a mon whose dex entry claimed it could make strong sunlight should get drought or not, it's entirely irrelevant.I honestly have no idea why so many people genuinely were arguing about this. It's such a BASIC premise. It's such a BASIC idea.>You asked why it didn't get drizzle. Because it doesn't need it to summon rain! duh!>You asked why it didn't get drought.Because it doesn't need it to make harsh sun! duh!
>>59243522>>>Sunflora has grown larger or whatever, and it not only faces the sun, but can manipulate the atmosphere to make it sunny.damn I sure hope the mega gets Drought when Champions comes out, would be stupid if it didn't
>>59243486nah I'm 100% serious, I'm not in that thread. I mean, I know it's inconsequential, but I'd be really surprised that someone has the exact same response style that I do. It's honestly really funny. Which posts of his sound like my autistic screeching?
>>59243527Yeah and plus ninetales can learn sunny day, and so can sunflora, so of course mega sunflora would get drought.
>>59243054Pyroar isn't getting shit.Why you may ask?This is the same Game Freak that gave it Moxie because they STILL haven't learned that mixed attackers rarely succeed in anything.>>59243348Game Freak's retarded.
>>59243522>t's entirely irrelevant.I agree, a Pokemon having a weather summoning move is completely irrelevant to whether or not it gets a weather summong ability therefore there is no need to bring up Rain Dance in regards to Drampa :)
>>59243542you know I honestly wonder if anyone is sitting there smugly thinking "he got btfo :^)))" without understanding what I was arguing stillI know I'm being autistic with this one but forgive me: I get the impression that you genuinely do understand what I was trying to say, thought it was reasonable enough and that I was just being annoying with how I said it (I was duh lmao) and are just posting this because it's funny. But those poor saps who genuinely don't get the discussion and are still fuming, thinking>buh wha hee mene raydan... kai-oh-guh lern raydan 2.... wha a dum-e tinking dat rampa cannae git dizzo cuh muh raydan...
>>59243537You say that but Mega Scovillain is pretty good we’ll just have to see
>>59243522You make up fake quotes to argue against instead of using their words. This isn't up for debate, everyone can see you doing it.
>>59243574that post is making fun of you sperg
>>59243577scovillian is a shillmon, its allowed to be good
>>59243579>fake quotesdude this whole thread has been>Oh x OR y would explain problem z? And you're asking why it doesn't have x? it doesn't need x, it can use y. There's your answer.>What? Just because it has y it doesn't mean it can't have x! Look at these other fellas that have both x and y! see? Why else would z be solved by x? x makes way more sense because x is rarer than y and because z is sometimes special!>it doesn't need x, it can use y, like I keep saying, something having x or not OR y or not doesn't matter, and you arguing that it wouldn't make sense with just y implies it needs x to solve z, which isn't true.over and over and over and over
I like how he's now trying to spin it as him saying it doesn't matter when that is what everyone else was saying from the start
>>59243588did you even read the post? I admitted it readily. Or do you fags genuinely need every single thing explained out to you and genuinely not understand when you're implying a certain end result if you say certain things? because that's really how it seems here
>>59243603>dude this whole thread has been>things I'm making up to seethe atYeah, I know.
>>59243608>now>>59241776my third post in the thread btw, this has been my entire point the entire time.>why doesn't it have x?>y explains it>YEAH BUT IT DOESN'T MATTER CUS X WOULD BE BETTER>it doesn't matter if you like it better, y explains it. x COULD have explained it, but it ended up being y.
>>59243617>YEAH BUT IT DOESN'T MATTER CUS X WOULD BE BETTERWhy did you make up another thing instead of just actually quoting someone?
>>59243612restating things and replacing words with variables to make a point easier to understand isn't "making things up", you're supposed to be able to mentally swap the variables for what they're substituting. You know, like you learned how to do in elementary school.
>>59243617genuinely go to therapy and get checked for schizophrenia my man, you can't go one post without the voices in your head telling you about things that aren't there
>>59243626>>59241703literally the very first reply to my very first post
>>59243631please see >>59243627
>>59243617>y explains it. x COULD have explained it, but it ended up being y.>reeee it's because of my headcanon not yours
>>59243639>headcanondex entry says it can summon storms2 mechanics can make it rain: rain dance, and drizzleif it got drizzle the dex entry would make senseif it still only had rain dance it would still make senseit only got rain dance>this is headcanon
>>59243617>it has rain dance>that doesn't matter other drizzle mons get rain dance>YES IT DOES YES IT DOES YES IT DOES YES IT DOES>wtf is your problem man we're just asking why it didn't get drizzle>i agree it could get drizzle but it doesn't matter>???see we can do it too
>>59243627>restating things and replacing words with variables to make a point easier to understand isn't "making things up"Based on the reaction you've got from multiple people, do you think you achieved this goal?>>59243634>accepts reasoning>calls it shit>says what gamefreak should have doneWhat do you not understand?
>>59243644you forgot the very important question that causes that exchange>This pokemon can summon rain. Why doesn't it get drizzle?>>it has rain dance>>that doesn't matter other drizzle mons get rain dance>>YES IT DOES YES IT DOES YES IT DOES YES IT DOES [translation: It does matter because it explains why it can summon rain which was the goddamn question you retard]>>wtf is your problem man we're just asking why it didn't get drizzle>>i agree it could [have gotten] drizzle but it doesn't matter>>???yeah, ??? indeed.>>59243647>Based on the reaction you've got from multiple people, do you think you achieved this goal?I think that most people in this thread are exceedingly unintelligent and that, yes, everyone else is the problem. I suspect most don't even understand what the phrase "common denominator" actually means judging by their inability to grasp basic variables!>What do you not understand?What do YOU not understand? You asked for receipts for someone SPECIFICALLY telling me that it didn't matter and that they preferred a different option, and that's what I fucking gave you, L-M-F-A-O!
>>59243671>This pokemon can summon rain. Why doesn't it get drizzle?>>it has rain dancethat doesn't answer the question and has zero bearing on whether or not a pokemon gets drizzle as has been proven and explained to you many times
>>59243685>that doesn't answer the questionthere is no excuse for this stupidity.Argument for getting drizzle is that it can summon rain. It can summon rain via rain dance. That's it. I've said this dozens of times in this thread. The question the OP raised was, to restate:>>59241493>Why doesnt it have drizzle?>It literally says it in its dex entry:>>Drampa's cells have been invigorated, allowing it to regain its youth. It manipulates the atmosphere to summon storms.and the answer is>>59241676>It learns rain dance already stupidIt summons rain. It learns rain dance, which is how it summons rain. It doesn't need drizzle to summon rain. It getting drizzle or not has nothing to do with it getting the move rain dance, but EITHER ONE explains why it summons rain. Which is why it answers the OP question: If it summons rain, why doesn't it have drizzle? The answer is that it uses rain dance. This is basic english.
>>59243697It getting Rain Dance is not an explanation for it not getting Drizzle as other Drizzle mons also have Rain Dance. It's just a fact of it having Rain Dance as a move which, great, many mons do. Not once has anybody asked the question>HOW does Drampa summon stormswhich is what you seems to be eluding you so much
>>59243710the op post says:>>59241493>Why doesnt it have drizzle?>It literally says it in its dex entry:>>Drampa's cells have been invigorated, allowing it to regain its youth. It manipulates the atmosphere to summon stormsHis questions is that if drampa can summon storms, why doesn't it have drizzle? The obvious answer: it doesn't need drizzle to summon storms, it can use rain dance.There is absolutely no other way to interpret the OP post.
>>59243730>im retarded and misinterpreted the op because of my autism so im gonna make it everyones problemand there is the root of the issue we can all move on now
>>59241770Who is this schizo that thinks everything negative said about ZA is coming from a Feraligatr fan? You're annoying as fuck retard.
>>59242369Okay, it evolves normally at level 80, yeah, a big fuck you for the average trainer, but if you have a Castform on your team, it will evolve immediately.But as a reward for those with the patience to evolve this bag of bones the slow way, it will get a ridiculously broken signature move.
>>59243745Go ahead and put forward literally any other interpretation of the OP post and try to make it not sound retarded.
at least one of you two is responding to bait. maybe both.
>>59243781what if it's neitherwhat if both of us are just fucking retardedever think about that, tough guy?
>>59243781nice try anon but i wont reply to your bait
just me then...
>>59242217this, holy shit
>>59242353have it evolve at japanese retirement age which I'm assuming is 65+
>>59243898nice
>>59243842samefag
>>59243925Need this with typhlosion but instead of menopause it's dies and becomes hisuian
>>59244071sounds gemmy, especially cus you can make it cyndaquil/quilava/typhlosion for the first 3 instead and then for the 120yo you can make it h-typhlosion ACKing
>>59243754Hi gatrcuck
>>59244190You are mentally ill.
>>59244194At least i'm not a gatrcuck LOOOOL
ZA Megas are a mistake
>>59244210>T. >>59241770
>>59241528Pokemon have two evolutions individual evolution and species evolution.Individual evolution is like metamorphosis.Species evolution is regional variants diversification.The young again portion is probably talking about actual evolution similarly to how Magikarp used to be stronger but became weaker.
>>59242517Berserk makes more sense with how Drampa acts .
>>59241493It should have the same ability as Mega Sol but for Rain, call it Soaked
>>59244210True
>>59244210it’s not even a bad design, the ability choice was just boring.
>>59244289Ah but you see my ugly and fat barabait johto shitmon got an ugly mega therefore i have to shit on everything else
>>59244298i do not care for this little feraligatr thing you keep whining about. it got old very quickly
>>59244308>i do not care for this You cared enough to reply
>>59244309true
>schizobro thinks a Feraligatr is talking to him every time he reads something he disagrees withFUNNY!
>>59244317Watcha gonna do about it? cry to janny daddy?
>>59244319>Watcha gonna do about it?Play with my new pet schizo.Tell me more about the things Feraligatr says to you.
>>59244323Uh oh! feraligatr melty!
>>59244324>he thinks I am a Feraligatr
>>59244332>Doesn't even deny it
>>59244317>yet another schizoWhen is this board going to be wiped out?
>>59241493It knows Rain Dance, the dex entry makes sense :)
>>59241493Unironically because it would hard counter Charizard and we can't have that
>>59241493It legit needs red eyebrows
>>59244429I wish we were still arguing about that it was really funny
>>59241528I still think it was initially supposed to be a Dunsparce evo.
>>59245568it was funny for a bit but became sad when realising that anon was genuinely that fucking dumb
>>59243671>more things that were never saidDidn't even read.
>>59245638>that anonmultiple anons actually.>>59245713>I hit ctrl+f and it turns out you said the sentence slightly differently so nobody said that heh>and I did eat breakfast today by the way, I don't understand the question
>>59246107>slightly differentlyYou're making up entire greentext essays to seethe at.
and it's sad again
>>59241652Mega Sol on a Grass type has the notable detail, of smoothing over the awkward issue of Grass types getting assraped by the fire damage increase. A Rain equivalent doesn't have the same niche. There's also the issue that less stuff interacts with Rain that isn't abilities. Thunder and Hurricane are about it.
>>59246149>noooooo you totally took everything out of context and didn't keep linking back to posts saying precisely what you said>nooooo you're just a schizo making things up, totally, absolutely nobody is saying what you're saying they said haha see because um you rephrased both sides for clarity which is normal in a discussion or argument so yeah that defeats your point or something
>>59246290>noooooo you totally took everything out of context and didn't keep linking back to posts saying precisely what you saidClose, but no one wants you to link back to them. You're mostly just being called a retard for how you're acting. The fake quotes just being one part of that.>rephrased both sides for clarityLook at what you just posted. You aren't rephrasing things for clarity. You're rephrasing them because you're looking for any way possible to not look like you do.
>>59246324you're not arguing honestly and you know it.
>>59241714Retard
>>59244429Retard
>>59246479Retard
>>59246479woah
>>59246421There's nothing to argue.>you knew exactly what everyone meant in the first place>they worded it in a way that triggered your autism>people point this out>you seethe over itThese are all facts.
>>59243352No, he was pretty clear from the start. You're all just illiterate underagers.
>>59246500>>you knew exactly what everyone meant in the first placethat they fundamentally misunderstood a very basic statement, and that I then proceeded to explain the situation to the deaf fools repeatedly.
>>59246505You're not convincing anyone, just give it up already.
cortisol: spikedposters: illiteratethread: ruinedoh yeah, it's /vp/ time
>>59246533>everyone is the same personschizo
Why doesn't Mega Gallade have Sharpness?Because it can Swords Dance!
>>59247009that's not the same. if you had a dex entry that said "this pokemon is known for dancing with its weapons" and there was also an ability from several gens back called "dancing blades" alongside swords dance, nobody should find it odd that that mon doesn't have that ability if it still at least had swords dance; it explains the dex entry perfectly.
>>59241493Because then it would threaten CHARIZARD as a dominant superpower of the Pokemon Champions metagame, and we can't have that.
>>59242338>Aron or Larvitar clearly need a special ability that lets them eat Stealth Rock thenThats a good idea
>>59241493There are more kinds of storms than just the ones that cause rain.
