>>59342802
The guy on the right looks so mad

Shit game

healing is gay

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I want Smeargle on Champions ASAP

>>59342820
Not until Safety Goggles and Covert Cloak return.

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Daily reminder to FOMO in for the upcoming /vg/ regulation M-B draft league. We currently have 4/8 players and need 4 more!

>>59342994
sorry /pcg/ not /vg/

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>>59342994
I was registered then, but sign me up chief.
When it opens ill put my name on.

>>59343009
if you are Friday, Clamsy or Haffi you are already signed up.

Pokemon Champions renewed my love for the franchise.
I didn't think that was possible by anything that wasn't a fan project.

>>59342994
Where can I sign up and when is it?

I managed to get all 3 starters from Z-A from just Home trading. It's pretty cancerous mainly Greninja but the stakes are lower since you can offer anything and hope someone bites. I don't think it's possible to get Floette from just Home. Every Pokémon you can search up has a dozen or 3 dozen requests for it. If you had a bunch of Floette you could get virtually any shiny.

>>59343058
just give me your sn and i will put you down. I plan to start the draft hopefully soon after the mobile and M-B release, as soon as i know what pokemon get added so I can update their point values. For more info you can see this archived thread >>59331220. I will make another thread closer to release time (17th june i think) so it doesn't 404.

>>59343115
Oh a draft league huh.
I'm completely ass at teambuilding a d can only netdeck teams from youtubers, but I'll give it a try.
Sign me up as Jam

>>59343128
nice we now have 5/8. only 3 spots remaining!

Wolfey also just started his draft league https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DgAhrl8xHYk so you can steal some drafting ideas, although I'm not going to separate megas from base mons in draft because it can lead to cheesey shit like drafting mega garchomp just to have a cheaper version of regular garchomp and goes against the spirit or pokemon being unique to only 1 team in draft.

God I'm sooooooo Bored with this game

shit game kek

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Decided to nut up and finally tryhard my way back to MB. Made what I thought was a game-losing blunder by letting my Blastoise eat Leaf Blade from Gallade and allowing my opponent to set up TR with Farig freely, but they severely disrespected how useful Tsareena is. Dude was so nonplussed at the end he bet the match on Aqua Jetting H-Arc forgetting about Queely Majesty entirely and ate a Head Smash/Trop Kick combo onto his Azumarill.

Just land a freeze on my sash cott and then a crit freeze on my snease thanks very cool

There HAS to be a move that clears trick room after its been set up its so fucking gay

>>59343309
Trick Room

>>59343309
This but weather without needing cloud nine

>>59343309
its called spamming protect

>>59343309
Copycat (it goes horribly wrong when they use a priority move straight after).

>>59343356
I get negative dopamine from not playing the game while playing the game

>>59343368
I get double dopamine when my opponent doubles up into a pokemon I protect

>>59343378
I get triple the dopamine when my lone pokemon solos three in singles

Stupid Toucannon's Beak Blast works even when it's asleep... Thanks for the random mechanics there are literally no way to know about which have zero intuitiveness whatsoever.

(The actual move doesn't go off, but its beak heats up and you get burned).

Didn't matter because it was Casuals and also I won anyway, but yeah it's dumb.

>>59343467
you had ten years

>>59343527
I just hate random shit that isn't explained. I think there was something with Dynamax where if they max, Encore didn't work (something like this). Also moves based on the target's weight just FAILED, which is moronic because they have a minimum damage amount (40 BP?) and it should therefore work and do that amount of damage.

It'd be like if Rage Powder for some reason just worked even if you're asleep and it isn't listed anywhere that this is the case and doesn't make sense with any of the rest of how the game functions.

>>59343456
Did that with H.Samurott yesterday, feels good man.

>>59343546
Like a dead Aerodactyl's Wide Guard blocking rocks for Charizard?

>>59342808
He was genuinely surprised and mind blown

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This code isn't on the OP

>>59343569
I feel like that is a bit less offensive because you literally see the move happen first. Like I assumed naturally that Helping Hand is still in play if I kill the thing that just used it since I saw the clapping happen. It could be argued though because I wasn't sure.

>>59343661
Is that the Mystery Gift code for Charizard the Festive in the Cherish Ball?

>>59343778
Yes. There should still be another for Blastoise before we go to M-B

Jfc M-B can’t come fast enough. New shiny toys please!

>charizard the festive
>CHARIZARD THE CHAMPION
mysterygiftcels could never

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give me hopium bros
its either this or dragonite as my s.attacker

what ability will the chink give it?

>>59343869
Absol Z - Dark Aura
Lucario Z - Aura Break
Garchomp Z - Air Lock

Anyone knows any tips to 100% Arceus as soon a possible so I can Shiny Hunt Alphas?
After playing ZA, this game feels tedious.

>>59343869
levitate

>>59343873
>After playing ZA, this game feels tedious.
PLA is ever harder to get shiny alphas from (more system restart etc etc)

>>59343869
>levitate
enjoy

>>59343879
>>59343883
>Gamefreak made Mega Garchomp worse than it’s base form twice

>>59343889
he do be fast tho

>>59343890
Slower than Scarfchomp still

>>59343871
>Garchomp Z - Air Lock
this does not spark joy

>>59342994
>Shadow Deoxys

>>59343871
What if Lucario Z gets the fighting version of Pixelate/Aerilate?
>Fighting stab Extremespeed

If they added Frostbite back into the game, more things would start being built as mixed attackers with Naive natures n shit, or hard TR, which is pretty based...

>>59344076
i was really dissapointed they didnt actually.
Finally, i thought, we would have some major shakeup in the meta, only to see its just terrain wars

>>59343869
Wind Rider

Does anyone have a Wyrdeer they can trade me? I have beast ball Beldums if you are interested.

>>59343546
unrelated but powders shouldn't work in rain or sand

>>59344262
Yeah give me some time

>>59344312
no problem, I'm not picky about anything, but if it's easy it would be nice to have a mark. I want try the Wyrdeer skill swap teams I see floating aorund.

Should I throw something up on home?

>>59344324
What kinda mark we talking about? Personality? Max EV/friendship?

>>59344335
any, I just like seeing an epithet. I like the Hisui Ribbon that gives "from the distant past". But again, it's not a big deal. I can figure something out.

>>59344359
I can do that no problem.

>>59344365
Thank you, I put a Beldum on home asking for a Wrydeer. It's my first breeding project in the switch games, sorry I don't have anything nicer ATM.

>>59344377
Its fine i don't need anything. Did you get it?

>>59344389
Yes I did, thanks oomfie.

>>59343869
Sharpness

>>59343092
>I don't think it's possible to get Floette from just Home
I did
>If you had a bunch of Floette you could get virtually any shiny.
That’s how. Get a shiny, trade for a Floette

By the way, Floette isn’t unique in having a billion trade offers for it. The same is true for all legendaries. The issue with Floette (and Ursaluna, but it’s less evident now) is that they’re non-legendary pokemon with legendary FORMS, so the “include people searching for legendary pokemon” filter doesn’t consider them due to GTS’s lazy ass spaghetti coding.

>>59343092
Pokemon Bank (maybe Home too, but I did this in Gen 7 with Bank) had REALLY bad hack checks. You could take an in-game Vivillon, change its form to Pokeball pattern, and then upload it. The "can't trade special Pokemon" check in the GTS is usually just a check on "is this Pokemon in a Cherish Ball?" This means Pokeball pattern Vivillon in a regular Pokeball were and still are tradeable on the GTS. The times I've needed a Pokemon from a game I didn't have, I just offer up one of my hundreds of hacked Vivillons and get what I want almost immediately. People care a lot about completing their Vivillon dex. If it's still possible, find a way to inject Pokeball pattern Vivillons and you can get everything you want. For reference, I was able to get all three of the Kalos starters and Floette right when Champions launched using this strat.

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>drops your elo
nothing personal, kid :)

>>59343456
I get quadruple the dopamine when my pokémon wins the 3v1 in doubles

>>59344494
Hack checks are just for shit like illegal types/moves/abilities. Like a Dark/Ghost Incineroar with Wonder Guard and Spore. Shiny and forms are usually ignored.

>>59344548
yeah, it dropped my elo into the trash playing him because everyone and their mom has counters for it now unless your pivot spamming stealth rock faggot

>>59343869
Unless Gamefreak are retarded (they might be retarded), all the Z Megas should be receiving inferior abilities to their counterparts. Not just to prevent invalidating the old Megas, but that 151 speed stat in general may prove problematic.

>>59344494
It doesn't check for Cherish Ball, you could trade Cherish Ball mons originating from LGPE because they didn't have event ribbons. You can probably still find Cherish Ball Shiny Krabby on GTS occassionally.

I dont know what to do, I think this game has crushed my spirit and I am no longer interested in playing pokemon, I got to master ball okay but as soon as that happened everyone suddenly has an answer for every one of my pokemon, even the ones im suposed to be good against. I havent won more than a couple games, my elo is absolute trash, I cant figure out any combination of mons to get through. Im supposedly using a meta team I guess, but this game has overwhelmed me that I think I might just quit videogames altogether. I hate this fucking meta bullshit.

>>59344624
KWAB

I really need to lock in and just get masterball this week. Played max 4 games this season.

>>59344624
chill.
games needs more mons and items.

i hate the current state of tyranitar set, dragon dance + slide spam, fuck that.
my Ttar runs assault vest, or will, once its in game.

>>59344638
I just know your a faggot meowscarada user

>>59344689
no but I might start in hopes that I run into yoou on ladder you're probably in great ball so I doubt it
>your
KWAB

What's the most annoying consequence of Champions not having unlimited resources / instant set changes like Showdown has?

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stealth rock, dragon tail/roar/whirlwind and yawn needs to be removed from this fucking game already jesus fucking christ im so fucking tired of these faggot ass moves and these faggot ass "players" who use them thinking they are good

>oh look at me I clicked the sleep button hahah
>oh did you need to switch? looks like you just got double yawn buddy
>trying to setup to stop me because you cant OHKO? nope get roared buddy
>take stealth rock damage too ;^)

seriously just take your (((win))) you absolute obnoxious faggot I hope every single one of you and your families gets terminal cancer

>>59344715
I hope you die a slow painful death

>>59344748
play doubles, anon

I want G-Max Butterfree in the game.

>>59344754
much like yourself every time you hop onto ranked?

>>59344725
Players are even less inclined to experiment on their own with so little box space and needing to spend VP to make any change even if you're swimming in it
There'll always be meta chasers who just netdeck everything they see online of course, but this system simply exacerbates it

>>59344764
fuck you you stupid piece of shit and fuck your stupid faggot ass game

>>59344768
no u

>>59344772
fuck you and that stupid fucking meowscarada
fuck you and your fucking choice scarf
fuck you and your fucking aurora veil
fuck you and fuck stealth rock
fuck you and fuck shed tail
fuck you and fuck baton pass
fuck you and fuck the entire eevee line
fuck you and fuck focus sash
fuck you and fuck cosmic power
fuck you and fuck compoundeyes
fuck you and fuck last respects

so much bullshit in this game jesus fucking christ no wonder nobody plays this piece of shit

oh yeah, and Primarina needs to be wiped off the face of the earth, Fairy types are scum and are so fucking overtuned it ruins every game

> First game of the day
> Get raped & gaped
> Dont wanna play anymore

>>59344725
There really should be something like you can either pay a one time large VP cost to make a Pokemon freely changeable in perpetuity or some sort of unlock thing like once you're a Professor of a Pokemon you can change any of them freely. Most have Pokemon have at most one or two common sets so you're really only building them once and then tweaking stats, but some especially meta Pokemon, like Incin, Urshifu, Sneasler, etc. have so many intricate builds that you will end up spending 10k+ VP on them over the course of a generation.

>>59344767
Is it bad in higher ranks as well? In ultra ball everyone just plays Basculegion and the bridge

>>59344807
and this ladies and gentlemen, is why you pull out

>>59344836
> First game of the day
> Rape & gape some poor guy
> Quit while I'm ahead and stay happy until tomorrow

>>59344847
That's a great idea.
I came upon that question while thinking how annoying switching sets seems to be, that would mostly solve it.

>>59344849
just like I pulled out of your ass after gaping you wide

Is there a guide that thoroughly explains Champions, the game itself?
Every guide just starts yapping about how pokemon battling works, I know that.
Champions is the new thing, not VGC.

so are they adding/removing pokemon or what?
has there been any communication?

>>59344807
>no mention of rock slide
>no mention of protect
>no mention of trick room
man I wonder what format you're playing

>>59344876
singles is harder than doubles to be fair

>>59344882
Harder to stay awake sure.

>>59344874
Do you need instructions on how to read a book too?

>>59344887
your right, Yawnspam is too OP

>>59344759
This thing is ass but just good enough to fuck up any dynamax run with one move

>>59344874
Explain what exactly? The game is very straight forward, and the in-game introduction tells you about things like recruitment and VP in 5 minutes

>>59344874
The game literally teaches you everything you need to know. What is there to learn?

>>59344748
Run taunt on your lead.

>>59342802
I had a question and figured I might as well ask here: why was non-mega Charizard occasionally used in SV teams in VGC tourneys?

>>59345013
Solar Power heat wave is still pretty strong

>>59345020
Oh, paradoxes and sun. I should’ve made the connection. Thanks.

>>59345013
It was only used in Reg H (no legends/paradoxes), sun was good and Specs+Solar Power+tera fire nuked things in a pretty bulky meta

>>59345024
Excepting Marco Silva though, your better nuke was usually H-Typhlosion since you were immune to fake out, could run scarf, and still outdamaged Zard.
Really speaks to how good Zard Y is.

so this game proved, once and for all that pokemon battling is cancer. what now?

I feel like there's another Zard Y archetype on the horizon. The current one with Basc/Gambit/Whims/Floette/Chomp with a one of those mons as a flex spot is kind if tired now. The Japs didn't solve it since it won, but the Europeans brought a lot of hate for that team ensuring it couldn't win.
The Delphox/MFloette "protect the queen" team is particular good at playing one step ahead of the Zard team every single turn.
What do you think the adjustment is?
What's the mon that fixes the Delphox problem?

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>cant play charizard anymore in singles
>lose all interest
cool game

>>59345061
I think at this point you just run out the clock with what you're comfortable with and wait for M-B.

>>59345060
just slowly let it rot, the patients enjoy their dialysis sessions

I will be running Mega Sceptile to counter Mega Raichu Y, simple as.

>>59344897
>>59344917
>>59345004
Like how exactly the rank ups work, win-streaks, etc.
There's a lot of small stuff. Of course I get the main point
I guess a guide isn't a good word, I meant more like a wiki or something

>>59345061
>delphox
another literally who gives a shit anthromon. Doubles sounds lame and gay.

>>59345060
its not like its going to get better, the fanbase unilaterally enjoys the rock paper scissors gameplay and the plenty of one trick pony gimmicks to cheese out "wins"

>>59345061
>faggot furry anthro beats ultra cool dragon
this game certainly knows its audience I guess

NERF STEALTH ROCK

the Fairy type was a mistake

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My little SwagPlay gimmick with Sableye/Sneasler works well enough to get into MB2, but I feel like there's parts of this team that should be rearranged. It works as a sun team but has some weaknesses to Ground/Rock that I'm working on getting around. Any suggestions anons?

>>59345245
Bro is complaining about SR in 3v3.

>>59345285
get a life

>>59345287
fuck you faggot there is no reason my mon should lose half its fucking health just because you clicked a button first turn.

>>59345317
Stop playing Vivillion. Bringing a Rapid Spinner, bringing a Defogger, use Taunt.

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>>59345319
>in order to win I have to bring shitty niche pokemon that I dont want to play with

>>59345323
Where did I say that? You know Rapid Spin isn't a unique move, right?

>>59345326
Bro your asking me to put Rapid Spin....on who? as a LEAD? how many leads can do that comparatively without getting killed next turn? are you dense?

>>59345330
>Most mons using SR right now are Ground types like Hippo or Garchomp
>Rapid Spin is a good move in general ever since the speed and damage buff
>Tsareena is a Grass type which learns RS and Triple Axel, great against both
Bam, took me fucking five seconds to give you an example. You gotta learn to think for yourself and out of the box, anon.

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Volcarona is so fucking goated. Quiver Dance Against a Spell Attacker-heavy team is an easy gg ez no re. It's only real counter is Rock moves.
>>59343309
>Encore
>Suddenly your opponent wastes an entire turn and you get 2 turns (or 1-3 hits) to nuke the Trick Room setter before he does it again.

>>59345334
>tsareena
what part of niche shitty pokemon dont you understand, unless you have sash on her she dies to anything.
>gets whirlwinded
>sets up rocks next turn
next part of your master plan dumbass?

>>59345341
>Tsareena
>Niche and shitty
Whatever you say, brainlet. How about fucking Starmie then? You gonna tell me that's a bad mon too?
>gets whirlwinded
Have you considered playing the fucking game instead of letting your opponent do whatever the fuck they want?

>>59345347
>Whatever you say, brainlet
I dont use faggot pokemon sorry not sorry, I guess I have to turn into a faggot if I want to win in this game and use faggot looking pokemon

>starmie
legit dies to anything too literal glass cannon even with a mega. Rapid spins the rocks away and still gets roared out since its too fast, its comparatively better to kill the Hippowdon outright instead of wasting time like that. can you shill me something that doesnt need a sash or isnt inherently frail as fuck?

>opponent sets up rocks
>rapid spins
>gets roared out
>opponent sets up rocks again
>either getting roared out/yawnspam
you still havent answered this question without OHKO, which most mons cant do to hippo or garchomp without outspeeding.

i genuinely wish the worst form of cancer to the nipponese nigger who greenlit archaludon

>>59345347
>Tsareena
>Niche and shitty
it needs a sash to survive a U turn. its shit.

>>59345384
this but meowscarada and primarina

>>59345366
>Rapid spins the rocks away and still gets roared out since its too fast,
ROAR IS NEGATIVE PRIORITY YOU FUCKING CRETIN
What fucking answer are you even looking for? I gave you multiple answers to SR and you didn't like any of them. Do you just want Hippo to literally be unable to do anything to you, like you have some sort of magical fucking shield that prevents your opponent from playing the game or did you want rocks to be removed from the field? Use fucking Vaniluxe with Taunt if Hippo rapes you so fucking hard.

>>59345392
From what?

>>59345384
>he doesnt carry a fighting type
ground moves are a dime a dozen anon genuinely what are you doing

>>59345399

>ROAR IS NEGATIVE PRIORITY YOU FUCKING CRETIN
so? doesnt change what I said, your getting roared out and next turn they set up rocks again. whats hard to understand
>vanilluxe
>tsareena
again why do i have to play with shitty looking niche pokemon that get killed with anything that has a choice scarf

>Do you just want Hippo to literally be unable to do anything to you, like you have some sort of magical fucking shield that prevents your opponent from playing the game

I mean thats legit what Roar SR Hippo does to its opponents but cool. Im looking for a one turn OHKO before ti even gets a cahnce to act idiot, maybe an immediate switch out to possibly make the other faggot THINK before brainlessly setting rocks down like a flaming faggot so I dont have to deal with any of it, but you cant OHKO a hippo or any of the stallmons easily.

>>59343147
Sign me up as Pecorine.

>>59345384
It’s gonna get much worse when Assault Vest is added

>>59345440
Primarina, Abomasnow, Mega-Froslass, Greninja, Mega-Blastoise, Mega-Magnium, Starmie, Basculegion, Mamoswine. All of these threaten Hippo and Chomp and dissuade someone from bringing a Hippo just by having them on your team. You genuinely have no fucking shortage of options for dealing with Stealth Rockers and it's your fault for getting bent over by the Hippo every time.

>>59345384
>Sneed uses Close Combat
>Wins
It can't possibly be that difficult.

>>59345497
>ice types
>trannyrina
>last respectsmon
Greninja or Blastoise are the only real options, the rest of those pokemon are pretty lame and gay.

>>59345529
>He's a frogfag
Gross

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>>59345536
frog website

>>59345384
this but triple axel

>>59345392
Bro how are you building it?
It can survive a max adamant dire claw, while outspeeding Aero under TW, and KOing univested Basc, maybe don't use shit builds.

>>59345479
6/8 only 2 spots remaining!

>>59345612
With Power Whip, right?

>>59345319
>the same nigger
>complaining about the same shit
>every
>fucking
>thread
holy shit, please kill yourself you underage retard

>>59345319
>>59345650
didn't mean to reply to you, you already know who I'm referring to

>>59345655
your a meowscarada user
your a troon, nobody cares about you

>>59345612
>max adamant dire claw from another glass cannon shitmon that gets raped by chomp
>outspeeding a niche shitmon only brought cause you piss your pants at the sight of charizard under certain conditions
>KO'ing a mon that its always going to lose to cause choice scarf will let it outspeed
maybe I just wont use this shitmon that looks like a faggots self insert

>>59344446
I don't know when you did it before but it seems to be much worse now. I put up a shiny Jolteon but no one was biting. Maybe no one wants alien green. I'm not even sure I'd be able to get a legendary with a shiny or a Floette with a legendary. I noticed some people would rather have Pokémon from Let's Go than exotic Pokémon. I basically managed to trade up to a Regidrago from Go and a shiny Jolteon and shiny Go Greninja. I traded a shiny Cetoddle for a Baxcalibur from Z-A because I thought maybe they'd force that for the stone. I'm not sure what people would actually want for Floette.

>>59344494
I was going for just Home on mobile. I have a hacked 3DS so I could do that but that means I'd also have to pay the Home subscription to transfer from Bank. I got the 3 starters already and a Floette from here but I was just curious to see if I could get one "legitimately" for a self imposed challenge. I don't think it's possible. People are way more stingy now and there's way more people asking for the same thing while offering the same thing without getting bites.

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Screencapping an old post I made, but assuming the unreleased Megas(barring legendaries) drop alongside the Terrain setters since Raichu Y has ET, what do you all think are gonna be the biggest meta warping threats next season?

>>59345663
you're not old enough to use this site

Sneaky peebles are a necessity to show the charizard and dragonite that they are not in charge

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>they gave doubles fags a free way to set two layers of spikes
>and an actual good pebbles setter
>people still are still kind of meh on it
Max hazards teams with kleavor, glim and mega scov

>>59345626
Trop Kick.
It's for the glass cannon Bascs. You still have a chance to KO the bulky ones. If you don't, well then they're -1

>>59346091
>252 Atk Tsareena Trop Kick vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Basculegion: 194-230 (99.4 - 117.9%) -- 93.8% chance to OHKO
Huh, well I'll be.

>>59346105
Run adamant nature.
You need 173 Atk, which is one above what Jolly can do.

>>59346070
Doubles is unfortunately too fast for hazards to do much. It's only good if it's a side effect such as Poison Spikes from Glimmora

You think they're gonna let female Indeedee keep Trick Room again?

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Finished my climb to MB in singles. Got lucky and my ELO auto placed me in M3, which is funny.

>>59346172
100%.

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>>59346223
I got placed in a similar rating when I hit MB this season (in doubles), but since then I've just been dropping each time I play

>>59346231
Yeah, doubles is a lot harder and more try-hard compared to singles, so getting higher in rank, much less maintaining it, is gonna be a fucking trail and a half.

>>59346135
rocks isn't NEARLY as oppressive in doubles as it is in singlea, but I'd be lying if I said that I didn't get a good amount of utility out of it. It'd be a different story if stione axe didn't exist, though.

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>>59346241
>Yeah, doubles is a lot harder and more try-hard compared to singles
you set weather, you stop trick room, you protect from rocks. what is complex about doubles?

Sableye fags aren’t human

>>59346302
It has double more actions so its double more complex

Is Mega Meganium just kinda outclassed in the current format? All the sneaslers and glimmoras running around in MB3 makes it really hard to position in such a way that it doesn't go poof. I feel like it has a few notable matchups that are good, particularly into sand, but I often find myself asking "should I even bring this mega?"

>>59346398
Meganium suffers because Floette exists.

>>59346398
Outclassed isn't the word I would use since little else does what it does atm, it's just not a favorable meta for it since three of the most used mons are shit on it typing wise.

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>>59346309
ok, I priority Disable you from saying this again

I need to stop using Rotom-W, hydro pump sucks balls
>>59346464
What if he's a dark type

We are actually 8 more days before M-B. Surely they will tease something more to get us hyped?

>>59346492
more mega news hopefully, we can only extrapolate so much from raichu

Bring back the Terrain Setters, fuck it, this meta is so fucking stale

>>59346418
True. The funny part is I rarely see M-Floette at all.
>>59346422
Yeah, a bad matchup into zard, sneasler, and any flying type that exists is unfortunate. Ice is probably better than those, since at least Meganium is specially bulky enough to survive a blizzard, but it's still not great. Maybe earth power is better than weather ball, but losing the mega sol weather ball just kinda feels bad. Maybe tailroom instead of tailwind could help too, the option for trick room might be good against some of the sun teams? Really though, I should probably just rework my team if I actually want to see my ELO go up. Or play more games to get better, either or.

>>59346556
best we have right now is just priority psychic terrain which is kinda cheeks

>>59344807
Kek singles baby, just play your own unbalanced cat then.

>>59345529
So the problem is little Timmy complaining about Spike while refusing to use meta mons. Meta mons are meta for a reason you faggot.
>why can't i win with these mons nobody ever use?

>>59346556
don't worry it's most likely coming for better or for worse

ditto really shouldnt be able to keep your powerups, thats complete bullshit I just lost to some fucking ditto gimmick fag because he ran a cancer fucking team with Attract Whirlpool Milotic and that faggot Mega Loppuny.

>>59346643
>Meta mons are meta for a reason you faggot.
only because cancerous no life faggot people like you spam them endlessly to cheese gimmick wins like fucking choice scarf last respects basc

>>59346630
doubles is e-whore babby mode lol

>>59346649
Lmao. Were you fighting King Coomer or something? What were his other mons?

>>59345262
i agree

fuck singles and doubles
bring back rotation battles

>>59346658
>ditto
>milotic
>lopunny
>vaporean
>milotic

>>59346673
You almost have to respect it, really.

>>59346652
Sounds like you know what your issues are then, now you just have to build around them!

>>59346673
If he had a Primarina it would be metamorph + playboy bunny + mermaids team

>>59346172
Yes and I think they'll go one step further and give Follow Me to Male.

>>59346302
In 6v6 Singles you have at most 9 actions; use one of your four moves, or switch to one of five Pokemon. In 4v4 Doubles you have as many as 28 actions; use one of your four moves on any or all of the three targets (your partner can be targeted) or switch to one of two Pokemon, and you have these actions for both your Pokemon. Also because doubles has a team preview and bench system, there's the added complexity of "what do I bring and what do I leave behind."

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>item mode battle
>you can choose to bring 3 from a selection of hyper potion, full heal, revive, ether and x items
would it work?

>>59346802
Oh wait, we had something like this with Wonder Launcher didn't we

How do I get the event Raichu?

>>59344548
Its special defense is so low even non effective attacks chunk it

>>59346838
Not yet.

>>59346838
It will be available at the start of M-B along with both stones

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Soon.

>>59346912
He looks like he eats earth

>>59346914
he has a bad tummy ache and is gonna frow up to feel better

>>59344624
What ELO and team?

>>59344852
This is what I do. It's a great method to never improve and just spike dopamine.

>>59344887
THIS.

Could I beat the Toxapex? Probably. Do I want to watch 15 minutes of Baneful Bunker animations? Definitely not. Singles is the mode you use to just grind VP.

You can climb the ladder super fast by spamming sleep and getting quick points from people surrendering 2 turns in :DDD

>>59347029
thought i was in the tcg pocket general for a second there

>>59346912
I hope not yet.

Are they going to reveal anything for today's direct?

>>59347068
A new Xenoblade hopefully

>rock slide
>sleep
>archaludon
>sinistcha
>perish trap
>prankster
>protect
>fake out
>moody
>limited items
>magic bounce
>armor tail
>queenly majesty
>alcremie
>bellibolt
why do i even play this game? i would be much happier playing gen 3 ou, yet here i am.

>>59347110
>Complaining about fake out and armor tail/queenly majesty

>>59347130
>complaining about cancer and chemotherapy

Hey if that one leak had Darkrai, Magearna & Zeraora in it doesn’t that mean that mythicals are gonna be legal

>>59346767
>Male Follow Me
gay

we need more battle modes

>>59347137
Exactly, you either hate the cancer or you are a cancer user who hates its counter. Who the hell hates both?

>>59347174
you are not supposed to enjoy chemotherapy

>>59347170
Yeah, partner battles. 4 trainers, 2 Pokémon each.

>opponent is playing some boring Yawn / heal setup
>afk and get something to eat
Least I can do is make him waste 10 minutes on the one match.

>>59347239
>jokesonyouimintothatshit.jpg

>>59347239
He'll get awarded the win way before 10 minutes if you don't input anything.

well pokopia gets an update i suppose.
Anyone played it before? Im tempted since everyone is jerking it off, and isnt made by GF or ILCA

I dont even know why i keep playing this. I already hit MB in doubles & singles, i will never go to a vgc event, i dont even bother to play properly. I just que & get annoyed after couple games.

>>59347499
Maybe i just need to take a break or something.

I demoted to Ultra 4 again. I think I might just call it for this season.

>>59346912
>Flame Body

Champions is just a prove the move tables of many pokemon are so fucked up.

Some are simply op while other just suck.
Why cant Garbodor learn Poison Gas?
That was important part of my strategy.

Giving all fire mons solaelr beam was a fucking mistake.
Same with ice beam for water type

>>59347767
this nigga ran pech in rank j

>STILL complaining about the same shit
just stop playing the game

>running sableye/arch/sinistcha core
>went up against sleep powder venusaur, incin, and umbreon toxic stall (not sure what the 4th was, never came out)
>entire game was a complete stall-fest
>they couldnt toxic stall my arch so they had to try and leech seed
>had my m-dragonite to threaten so it became a swapping war to stop toxic speeding up and not get drained by leech seed
>sinistcha to keep healing up toxic damage combined with swapping
>only sableye died, game ended in a draw since we couldnt do anything to each other properly
unstoppable force meets unmovable object ass game

>>59347840
Singles is genuinely unplayable. Genuinely. Thank god they invented doubles.

>>59347840
Every Stall team needs a Stall breaker, never forget that.

>>59347846
i'm sorry to tell you anon but this was doubles
>>59347850
technically dragonite was that but they kept getting off every single sleep powder with 2-3 turn sleep so i didnt wanna keep risking my potential win condition when the odds were clearly against me

So I don't have any idea of how to build a team. The tutorials are complete and utter dogshit too. You'd think it's obvious like Garchomp and Aegislash because Aegislash can kill the fairies that threaten it and Garchomp can kill the Charizards...

But actually it doesn't work that way because of common coverage moves and speed tiers, so it's just completely opaque and nonsensical outside of "put Tyranitar on a team with Excadrill or Mega Steelix because they use sand", or "put Pelipper with Archaludon"... Or put Farigiraf with some slow mega like Camerupt.

Nothing else makes sense but the "else" are the actual good and interesting teams people would actually want to learn how to build.

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>>59347864
Did you read the new player guide in the OP? The guidelines it puts out for making a new team are really solid rules to follow as a baseline.
Garchomp and Aegislash on the surface seem decent enough, but they don't share any real synergy beyond having types strong against what the other is weak to.

>Aegislash is predominantly an end-game cleaner with Shadow Sneak and high first-turn survivability or soft check to physical threats and walls with King Shield and hard hitting Flash Cannons and Shadow Balls
>Garchomp is an amazing all-rounder that can fill a lot of holes just by existing. Sweeper,, cleaner with Scarf, mindless E-Quake spammer, soft weather control for anything besides Snow, potential set-up check with D-Tail, etc.

The biggest thing of making a team is figuring how the mons you want to make a team around interact with the current meta, and then using the rest of your slots to fill in the holes you need to deal with everything the first two don't.

>>59347879
I had not seen that! I thought it would be like "Super Effective moves are moves which hit your opponent for extra damage" based on the title.

I'll read it now. The reason I want to build my own is that using the meta teams puts me in a skill bracket that doesn't actually reflect my abilities, and it just leads to extreme struggles trying to maintain my ELO etc, when I'm like 400 points above where I probably should be.

>figuring how the mons you want to make a team around interact with the current meta

This is where it starts to feel extremely opaque. E.g. I know Garchomp takes out Charizard, and I know Aegislash can take out Floette etc. I don't understand synergy outside of trick room setter beside slow mega, Pelipper beside rain abuser, and so on.

>>59347894
Well, the best thing you could do if you're ever confused about specific mons is to ask here or look up a comp video on it or teams that have used it. CybertronVGC in particular has been doing a lot of in-depth breakdown videos on top teams used in recent tournaments and high ladder which is great for learning the ins and outs of how they function.

I made this team >>59346223 for my singles climb and while I assume you're playing doubles, a lot of the same general ideas apply to both.
>I really wanted to use Sharpedo. which doesn't deal with Steel types like Arch or Scizor very well
>I'll add Infernape to counter both of them
>Infernape doesn't like Dragon mons, nor do Ape and Shark deal with bulky fighting types well. so I'll add Scarf Gardevoir to check those, as well as Ice Fang to Sharpedo, just so my sweeps aren't stopped midway by a D-Nite or bulky Chomp.
>Hmm, nothing on my team can really take a hit without getting chunked severely, and there's no priority besides Ape's weak Mach Punch. Lemme throw in Conkeldurr to help soften physical checks for Sharpedo and break Multiscale on D-Nite
>Man, Sun and Rain teams still threaten me super hard, I know! I'll add Manetric, which works strongly against both. It OHKO's both weather setters, helps keep Basc at bay with Intimidate, etc
>Oh, hey! Sun teams aren't as threatening anymore, but fairies are still a bit annoying. I'll add Scizor since I don't need to worry about Sun as much and use him as my main set-up sweeper with SD and Knock Off for Ghosts and Psychics anytime I don't bring Sharpedo.

It's all just little trains of thought that build onto one another. Not every team you make is going to be as functional as you imagined it being in concept, but that's just what the learning process is like. Even top players or big name Poketubers like Aim create some outright dogshit teams sometimes.

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>the sushi thing grows this big after mega evolving
No way this shit is going to fit in Dondozo so there goes Commander

>>59348364
I always figured the reason they gave Tatsugiri a mega was to give it a reason to be ran without Dozo.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DkXmHnRj2VU

>>59347894
>I'll read it now. The reason I want to build my own is that using the meta teams puts me in a skill bracket that doesn't actually reflect my abilities, and it just leads to extreme struggles trying to maintain my ELO etc, when I'm like 400 points above where I probably should be.
This mentality is good in theory, but flawed in practice. By making your own teams you risk learning bad habbits and falling into new player traps; hard trick room for example. Hard trick room does really well against low ELO players who don't know how to counter it, and it's a flowchart playstyle so you can learn it fast. So you start playing hard TR, you do well, your rank goes up, then you're hit by the wall of high skilled enough players they can stop it, and you go no further.

Teambuilding is exponentially harder than battling. You can give someone who has never played competitive Pokemon before a good meta team and within 100 games he'll be at the point he's winning and losing half his current games, especially if he has good base skills for reading and downloading opponents. Meanwhile it can take thousands, sometimes even tens of thousands of games, until you get to the point you understand all Pokemon at such a deep level you can say "yes these six have perfect synergy, and their stat spreads should be this to handle these scenarios, because those scenarios are the ones I expect to encounter in the meta because..." Like it's a completely different beast. Go copy a highly rated team from a recent tournament, play, learn the fundamentals of battling. Eventually you'll start to intuit what makes a good team. You won't notice it, but your brain will. You'll start to see "oh wait my opponent has no answer for a lead of X and Y" or "my opponent's only win condition is his Z so as long as I take that out, I win." And once you're at that point it's easy to make a team because you just make it, then look at the team builder and critique yourself.

>>59348364
Tatsugiri will still be in battle after Dondozo is KO'd, meaning Dondozo + Tatsugiri is now even stronger. Hopefully he's going to see some nerfs.

>>59348407
the ability better be nuts, cuze the stats aint gucci senpai frfr no cap

>>59348580
just run haze

>>59348580
Commander won't work if Tatsu is holding an item now.

>>59348543
1700 to 1800 is just so nightmarishly stressful for me though so I feel I don't learn much. I've only been playing for a month. I know basics from childhood and occasionally watching Pimpnite but I'm basically a complete noob, so I have to try extremely hard to stay in this tier.

I got knocked out of MB3 after a tilted session.

I think the team alone basically got me to this rank and it's winning in spite of me.

>>59348605
That'd be the perfect fix actually. You wouldn't even need to nerf Dondozo.

>>59348627
>watching Pimpnite
oh no no no

Theres a non zero chance Mega Golisopod has water bubble

>>59348777
It will get emergency exit because ZA megas not named floette aren't allowed to be good

>>59348784
I dont think they'd do that with their new megas they want there to be some use case for them

>>59348796
I agree, but then there's Meowstic which is genuinely just worse Mega-Ala.

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>>59347894
>figuring how the mons you want to make a team around interact with the current meta
>This is where it starts to feel extremely opaque
yeah i really dont know how else better to explain it. If I go too deeply with
>X beats Y, so you should add Z in your team
then it might too current meta centric and not explanatory enough. Maybe something like this video might be good
>https://youtu.be/SjOQ2U4tXVM?si=XE0kDsayWFbpUWl9
but then this would require the guide to be updated for every regulation. There isnt a good way i can think of to explain what Mons beat what Mons in text other than to say 'just play more until you get it'

>>59347840
>sableye
>archaludon
>sinistcha
why are you like this

>4 lose streaks since getting to MB
I guess you need to be a sweaty to get to MB in the first place. Still, fun is fun

>>59348784
Mega Raichu Y got No Guard Zap Cannon

>>59349307
my time in mball has been a never-ending ping-pong from 1.3 to 1.5 via 7-win streaks

>>59347517
Never give up anon. Last season I made it into MB the night before the cutoff

Thanks to the anon who traded me his Wyrdeer the other day. I am having so much fun with skill swap. I'm just in UB tier, but it's pretty normal to get a +4 Milotic with hardly any setup. The only thing that would make Wyrdeer better would be to give it snarl.

>>59350013
unreal how people play this game without at least 2mons running taunt.
you can see this type of setup from miles yet they let it be abused.
same shit with TR teams, they dont even run mental herb, thats how rare taunt is.

and once mobile hits and we get flooded with normies, TR/wyrdeer/soak shit will be all over the place and tauntCHADs will farm their ass easy.

>>59350057
My favorite mon has been Taunt Sableye, which I have been running in some variation since 2013 when I first started playing VGC, champions brought me back, and as long as it's not Farigiraf he always gets the job done. Sadly, since cybernigger as popularized the rain dance set, people take him out ASAP now. He used to get away with a lot. Wyrdeer is filling in my stupid mememon pick until hopefully Sableye usage drops a bit.

Who is the best roar user? I like Umbreon.

>le "30%" flinch chance has arrived

>>59350099
Incineroar

>>59350150
Umbreon has inner focus :)

>finally got to master ball singles this month

Phew! Became much more doable after I reworked my Forretress.

>>59348784
niggas will come on here and call mega meganium and mega froslass unusable just to shit on gamefreak

>>59350137
No move besides Fake Out and Upper Hand should be able to flinch.

>>59350295
Sorry, I couldn't hear you over you flinching and being unable to move.

dude vivillon lmao

i understand what's VP for, but what of the other currencies i keep getting?
the coupons or w/e, what are they for and where do i see how many i have

>>59350367
There are tickets to reroll the ranch faster, tickets that let you roll the ranch with increased chance of getting a particular type and you have training and teammate coupons that you can use for training or permanent recruitment instead of VPs.

>>59350367
coupons for training a pokemon without using VP

coupons for permanent recruitment from ranch

coupons to reduce time between ranch uses

coupons to influence types that will appear in ranch lineup

>>59350367
Dw about it princess <3

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>>59350284
>Forretress
Based, I will now play your format. What’s the set? I assumed he was just a Toxic Spikes Spinbot, but if he’s fun to use otherwise, I’m all over it.

>>59350595
Body Press, Pounce, Volt Switch, Stealth Rock. 32 HP, 32 Def, 2 Sp Def, Impish, Leftovers.

One shots Mega Lopunny (who usually leads) and can overpower Archaludon. Pounce lets you hit Ceruledge while negating the Weak Armor speed boost. A couple of other common picks really don't like dealing with it either.

worst team idea ever: take top 6 pokemon that can use imprison, replace protect with said move, copy top 3 attacking moves
:^)

>>59350956
Wow, you're right. That is terrible.

>>59350383
>>59350386
thank you
>>59350391
kys nigger

>>59350688
>32 HP, 32 Def, 2 Sp Def
Do you get 66 bonus points from EVs in Champions? Wasn't it always 63?
252/4 = 63

>>59351001
And yet Superjail will slop out a win

>>59351098
It's 66 now, yeah.

>>59351098
8EVs = +1 stat at 50
2IVs = +1 stat at 50
252 / 8 = 31.5
This mean a Pokemon with 31 in an IV got 15.5 rounded down to +15 in a stat from its IVs, but the first 4 from the 252 EVs would make the 15.5 round up to 16. Because of this a 5 stat EV spread in the past could yield +66 stats, versus a 3 stat spread that only yielded +65.
252/252/4 -> +32/+32/+1
244/252/4/4/4 -> +31/+32/+1/+1/+1
To preserve this jank they just give you 66 stat points in Champions and simplified the stat formula down to:
(base stat + 15 + stat points) * nature

>>59351233
>8EVs = +1 stat at 50
>2IVs = +1 stat at 50
I like to think of it as 8 EVs is +1 base stat and 2 IVs is also +1 base stat.
That way it works for any level, not just 50.
But thanks for the explanation.
Though I don't really agree with their decision to remove IVs, I guess the original system is kinda jank.
I also wonder why the maximum EVs was 510. I would understand 511, since that's one less than a power of 2, but 510 seems kinda odd.
Unless it's just because 510 "looks better" than 511, and you can't get 512 with the same amount of bits.

i really love fighting the same 3 fucking teams over and over
really fun experience

If it really takes this long for Champions to get any sort of updates, this game is not going to last

>>59351309
Even just adding one mon to the meta every week would be enough shake up depending on what it was.

Has anyone ever tried making a minmax algorithm for singles?
I just realized there's only 6 possible options per turn, so you could pretty realistically predict the game for at least a couple of turns forward

>>59351318
Hell even a few items would help, but nope

>>59351280
I picked up this game today after avoiding it and I immediately want to put it back down. Not enough pokémon variety. Meta slop is not balanced enough to be enjoyable. Very weird and predatory gacha-like mechanics even though the game isn't a full gacha.

It's not even fun to look at because it's just reusing the same generation 7 and 8 shit. At least PBR and the Stadium games had nice attack animations to watch.

>>59351394
>Meta slop is not balanced enough to be enjoyable.
What seems imbalanced to you?

>>59351394
Yeah all the New players have pretty much dropped it, its just Metafags now, the mobile release will bring back a lot of people but they'll probably drop it too if the game doesn't make a lot of changes