Nobody Likes Me EditionPokémon Champions is a free to play online battle simulator available on Switch and mobile. It features ranked, casual and private battles for both singles and doubles, and will be used for VGC tournaments in 2026.>NewsEnter HAJ1MAR1G1FT for a free 100 Quick Coupons and CHAMP10N for a free Machamp.Registration for the Monthly Challenge Series are open, with battles taking place between July 24th and July 27th. Enter for a free 100 Quick Coupons and Mawile.>Resources and useful linksCommunity Tournaments usage data: https://pikalytics.com/Ladder usage data: https://pokechamdb.com/enNew Player Guide(NEW PEOPLE READ THIS):https://rentry.org/pcg-guide (now taking suggestions and feedback)Anon made guide for brand new players to make a viable team with the starting pokemon: https://teamsheet.gg/t/sample-beginner-reg-b-vl3698Quick FAQ>Do I need my own Pokémon to play?No, the game features a recruitment system, but transferring from Home is recommended to save time and resources.>What makes the game so much more accessible than before?All aspects of a Pokémon are customizable with VP, a currency earned simply by playing the game. IVs are also removed.Ask in the thread if you want any specific Pokémon, and someone will respond.>Is there single player content?No.>Do I need a Nintendo Online subscription?No.>What's the starter pack?US$6.99 one time purchase for 50 training tickets (fully train for free), 30 Teammate Tickets (recruit Pokemon without using VP), 50 extra box space and the LGPE trainer music. Only available on Switch for now.>Is anything locked behind a paywall?So far everything gameplay relevant is also purchasable with VP. Only E-Floette require ZA transfer.>/pcg/ OP pastebin (use this if making new thread):https://pastebin.com/d2FJZdPhPrevious: >>59443837
first for free mythicals
Why do pros make this game look so easy
>>59450147Internalized transphobia
Shit Game
fun game
>>59450060>nigga has 3 eveeloutions Why? >mousholdfag drops out as soon as I lead with scarfed chandelureWhy?
>>59450060I like you LyckarocI wish you were real
Naming my Arch @Grok
mega raper is way too easier to setup. the setup for stored power on megamar is more difficult, but rewarding.>>59449200for me it'sAtk 32Def 11Spdef 22
eeveelution team to MB, wish me luck bros
Why is Archaludon so fucking light? It only weighs 60 kg. Low kick only has 80 BP against it, when it should be one of the big fat mons that get hit for 120.
>>59450060>Spirit Shackle buffed to 90bpTh-thanks for NOTHING
>>59450400good luck bwo
>>59450413DLC privilege. Whatever Jap faggot on the team liked it should be eviscerated
>>59450413iron ball + fling should make pokemon heavier. go KER-CHUNK!
>>59450147Because they're highly autistic and run calcs on everything.
>>59450153Where
>>59450460i do this
When do I get into champion rank? I have been climbing master ball for ours and this shit never ends, what the fuck do you want from me?
>>59450527Top 300.
>>59450527100 win streak with garchomp sneasler and kingambit
Is there any reason to save quick coupons and not just spam recruits
>>59450537Barring a potential massive dex shift, no, not really.
>>59450537>>59450541If you are a free to poor peasant, you need a lot of coupons to get an specific mon
Maybe I should swap Grimmsnarl for something else. Liepard almost always gets the job done better by just spamming special defense or normal defense.Malamar is actually really good now that almost nobody uses bug types or U-Turn
>>59450745>mfw I found a u-turn Sneasler.
>>59450745Wide Lens is worthless on Orthworm, what the fuck are you doing?
>>59450761That's the surefire sign of someone who's lost enough games missing on a 95%.
>>59450761I don't know what else to put there
>>59450807When it doubt, just add bright powder.
>>59450807Occa or Shuca berry would be fine.
>>59450807choice scarf
>miss hydro pump twice >get double crit'd for my effort i got owned
>>59450825Shuca Berry on a Pokemon with Earth Eater?
>>59450886>Wide lens is worthless on orthworm! Here's an even MORE worthless item!Just another case of an anon acting like they know how to play the game when they actually don't.
To the anon who was here yesterday about Round teams, I did some workshopping and ended up seeing success with Liepard. It's the only Prankster in Champions with Copycat in addition to a litany of other moves like Yawn and Encore in addition to Fake Out being a good setup move. Just make sure your partner uses Round last on turn 1, then Copycat it for turn 2, making your slow partner strike hard and fast.
>>59450745Can you actually use your support mons to self target Malamar? Dark types are immune to prankster. Why not just use Grimmsnarl for screens? Also why is Orthworm there without a single earthquake user? Is the substitute that crucial for the team working?
well thats it for this season belly drum azumarill is more fun to play than i expected
>>59450147its easier to make reads against people with braincells unironically
>>59450916run taunt or foul play instead of fake out to have a chance against mega staraptor. i run mental herb on my grimmsnarl, but not everyone does.
Kingambit sit on your turd stoop while you do nothing all game and the superior steel type scizor who doesn't need specific conditions to use priority rapes your team
>>59450916I fought someone in casuals who used fake tears with maushold on mega malamar who also had Rest, if Game Freak didn't remove lucky chant i'd be comfortable using that strat, I don't think prankster mons would be able to do that however
Armor Tail should only activate once per battle. Fuck that Giraffe.
Still learning team different strategies Had an opponent that lead with Snorlax and Hawlucha. He mega evolved the Hawlucha and did entrainment which gave Snorlax no guard. However I was able to OHKO the Snorlax. Next turn he forfeited, clearly I busted his setup. Question is what was he aiming for?
>>59450060Since its almost in the op image Is there any way to include midday lycanroc in a team? I can't think of any use other than using taunt stealth rocks and maybe endeavor hoping my focus sash isn't cucked. Its only niche as an attacker is done better by excadrill but I love that rock doggo.
>>59451032Snorlax learns fissure to OHKO everything. Snorlax specifically is really fat, with recovery which is why he is the target.
>>59451032He wanted to use Fissure with Snorlax, unfortunately the strategy leaves the slow Snorlax with no protection and can be easily doubled up against.
>>59450060Nobody likes verlisify
>>59451043Noone likes lolcows in general, he just is the biggest one in this space
>>59451035Your best bet is probably a cleaner in Sand teams with LO. It's the only line that gets Accelrock which can come in handy occasionally, but it really is outclassed by Exca or Dusk form in almost all cases.
>>59451035life orb accelrock to nuke zard y.
>>59451025It doesn't "activate" at all.
>>59451075Are you stupid or do you just not capable of reading comprehension?
>>59451025The giraffe isnt even that annoying once you get out of the habit of trying to use priority on it, it just hogs up the field with its passivity when TR players would rather be able to get their torkoal safely in at full HP, I high key hate tsareena more and kill that bitch on sight so my azumaril can get going
>>59451043He unironically thinks BSS is legit and wont play doubles cause "waaa the integrity of the game is ruined by wolfey and his heckin dream ball raichu from a decade ago"
>>59451025It just needs to work for all Pokémon on the field. Nobody can priority move.
>>59451209> He unironically thinks BSS is legit Well… he’s right about that. But he is wrong about genned mons being cheated. At this point, it’s expected that you gen some mons.
>>59451025no. fuck Incineroar actually. remember to click a different move next time. now eat that cc
One Slow brother please
>timerstalling with a rain team in casualsSome people have no shame
Why is it always a Rock type Pokemon when it comes to the worst of something?
How did the same DLC that gave us Archaludon & Sinistcha also give us this piece of shit
>>59451035It learns endeavor. If down to 1 HP from a sash endeavor could let sandstorm chip the enemy to death or quickly finish off with accelerock next turn. Also learns quick guard if enemy has priority too. That's the best I can think of. The problem is best case scenario is something out speeds and leaves HP to 1 for endeavor to work immediately after but who would out speed it? Especially in sand.
>>59451355I mean Hydrapple is honestly pretty damn good for what it is, all things considered. It'll be better once AV is in the game.
Taunt is kinda underwhelming
>>59451396Ever since they decided dark types are immune to prankster, taunt is shit
>>59450060What are the bottom 10?
>>59450914Idk man, I felt the same way at first but she just doesn’t hold up against the meta. Prankster Yawn + Encore + Taunt is super sexy on paper, but you get to the big leagues and every single team has Incineroar or seven other Dark types to lead and suddenly you’ve got a cat that can Fake Out and then do exactly nothing. Add on top of that the fact that she takes your Sash or dies to neutral Heat Waves/EQs, and in my experience you’ve got a mon that is a bit more trouble than she’s worth. Love to have my mind changed though.
>bottom five isn't cartoon animalsKojo is NOT going to like this.
Finally out of bullshit singles UB2 hell... also in my first MB match i just beat a guy with my experimental heatproof sinistcha lmfao
>>59451025A dude oneshot my giraffe with an adamant tyranitar knock off. It's not invincible.
>>59450436Normal D-eye will be good when he gets a mega in 20 years... trust...
Hypothetically, if you're against an opponent with a Farigiraf and a Fake Out mon, if you used Upper Hand would that block the Fake Out either competely or partially, or does Armor Tail make Upper Hand fail and allow the Fake Out to happen?
>>59451497upper hand fails due to armor tail, fake out still comes out
How do you guys deal with Minimize Overqwill?
>>59451509you could always run a pokemon with haze or roar
Pokemon that have consistently let me down in every way possible and can turn winning games into losses GliscorExcadrillMalamarAbsol
>>59451509Minimize and evasiveness in general doesn't even work right in the game. I ran a full sanaconda set with minimize. Sand always up. And bright powder. And I still got hit every single time, even with full stacks up. It's basically a coin flip. Shit is 50/50, the outcome doesn't change at all no matter how much evasiveness you have. I've dodged my rock slides regularly than running that set. Total rip off
>>59451547What move did they hit you with?
why did they make double protect a 33% chance instead of just failing if you use it twice in a rowsome sicko game designer looked at pokemon and thought "you know, this game doesn't have enough situations where RNG cheese can turn a game"
>>59451548Fucking wood hammer slammed my snake into the dirtI hate this dumb piece of shit. I can't believe I invested an entire team into it
>>59451537Why are you using Gliscor when poison heal is unusable right now?
>>59451537Toxic orb aint here yet bro
>>59451537You're an absolute scrub if people can win games with Aurorus.
Ive discovered that pokemon creates evil autists by rewarding malignant autism
September is Rocky helmet Amoonguss time. Safety goggles are also gonna be a thing
How much defensive investment does a Raichu Y need to survive Mega Lopunny HJK at 32 EVs?I have been eating every Raichu Y I fight, then one last night tanked it with almost quarter health??? It also couldn't OHKO me back with Focus Blast, so it wasn't a good build amyway.
>>59451649>32 Atk Lopunny-Mega High Jump Kick vs. 32 HP / 32 Def Raichu-Mega-Y: 129-153 (77.2 - 91.6%) -- guaranteed 2HKOSome people just lose the fucking sauce trying to outlive shit. I've seen Charizard Y's get outsped by H-Arcanine's because they've invested so many point into def just to survive the potential RS from some other completely different mon.
>>59451649Some people run a fat defense and hp set. It sucks so its not something to think about. Mine had enough spa to kill shit under light screen and I threw the rest in hp to mitigate fake out chips
>>59451681That's a relatively slow chu. What do you use for speed control?
>>59451695Its 32 speed
KEKAROOO
>>59451035it's literally worse then midday in every way.
>>59451711I used Samurott a lot during my climb with the starter squad. It's not the worst starter in the game(that'd be Decidueye), but fucking man is it an uphill battle using one. Most consistent set I found was just a 4-special attacker alternating with LO/Expert Belt or Focus Sash for high power Torrent Hydro Pumps.
>>59451720It's a victim of Game Freak's irresistible and obligated retardation with Rock type Pokemon.>>59451711>avalugg has less usage than its hisuian counterpartIDK what question I should ask first.
>>59451711I don't feel like Oranguru belongs in this image.
>my 4x bulked corviknight gets rock slide flinched 3 turns in a row>the very next match my char y heat wave misses on both the enemy Sylveon and the enemy Abomasnow, while their blizzard lands in sunlight and freezes one of my pokemon>the match after that i correctly predict a swap with stone edge on my tyranitar into a pelipper with 40% hp and the stone edge misses>I fight a rotom that double paralyzes on its very first turn I'm raped, call me The Raped
>You get mega corviknight >You can't use leftovers
i netdecked metaslop. how do I play it though? what is the best starter pair?
why can't i find any matches???
>opponent runs whimsicott>stall out the tailwind thanks to my bulky pokemon>win>opponent runs farigiraf>he realizes my pokemon are slow as fuck so he reverts the trick room himself>still win
>>59451759Singles
>>59451711I am the one who shall bring my boy Qwilfish from the depths.
>mega charizard X has both 130 in attack and special attack>it has tough claws thoughwhy waste those stat points on a non special attacker...
I heard rotom heat is used as an anti-meta pick. Which meta does it counter?
>>59451843FUCK YEAH WOOHOOO this is my first time in masterball rank :D
>>59451869congrats, you ARE planning on getting masters on singles too right?
>>59451843>>59451869Sorry for responding
>>59451843good against charizard, pelipper, metagross, archaludon somewhat and is immune to earthquakealso it's used with mega sceptile which deals with swampert (when it does not die to ice punch)>>59451869congrats, now it's comfy time
>>59451509don't miss.
>>59451615when you see the same mons doing the same techniques over and over something snaps in you. suddenly you're running upper hand Greninja with no water moves.
>>59451509heavy slam with my wife
imagine using the fucking cup. dickless fucking nigger
>>59451969>everything's bulky and requires being doubled up to go down>is mad that the shitmon that restores 1/3rd HP on switch is popularif there was a pokemon that would set up screens on switch everyone would use that as well
I've managed to tank my rating in master singles so low, I'm repeatedly facing the same guy every other match.
>>59451870Waste of time.
>>59451969They call him the cup
>>59451969just use your knock off 'mon on it. waste their slot.
>>59451834I feel like they definitely tried to "balance" early Megas more with some obvious exceptions. They wasted 40 of Absol's stat points in fucking special attack. Look at what happened to Mega Garchomp too who also got le special attack of balance. Of course these are the most egregious examples and ignoring the many +10 cases there's still a huge amount of +20 cases for not even broken Pokémon. Z-A Megas I feel course corrected in the opposite direction by giving dogshit abilities while holding back more on le balance points.
>>59451657Most Zards are slower than H Arcanine.Adamant +32 speed should be faster than the majority of Zards.It's not getting "lost in the sauce" when you're building to survive attacks from mons that are on 30-60% of teams as opposed to <5% like Arcanine.
>>59451777Lead with aeeodactyl to setup tail wind select the other pokemon as attackers based on what you think your opponent will pick out of their 6. The only other thing to note is if you are against pokemon where setting up tailwind might not work either because they will run trick room or lead with a pokemon who has prankster and taunt you will need to reconsiser strategy.
>>59450886I got the names mixed up, I meant the fire or fighting berries.
Finally pushed my way into M3. I need a replacement for Altaria. I had it there as a check for Scarf Chomps, but I haven't been running into any; just a lot of Metagross and Primarinas. Any suggestions? Been struggling alot with Hippodon's too, so maybe Lum Berry Serperior?
Gardevoir build for this feel?https://x.com/Nisetanaka_tkyo/status/2080273206490152970
>>5945258432 Sp Att/32 SpeedTrickPsychicMoonblastDestiny Bond
>Goodra learns Life DewIt's no Recover but it's something I guess
>>59452584expanding force (¬‿¬)
>>59451396It is when most of the mons you want to taunt have prankster so unless you're also prankster they're gonna pull off whatever bullshit they want and only THEN get taunted.So the tailwind is up, one of the screens is upAnd then if they had a mental herb you're just getting encored into taunt
>>59451711Poor monkeysJust give them some real abilities gamefreak, come on.
>>59452641simisear gets droughtsimipour gets drizzlesimisage gets dry skin
>>59451711Wait what is oranguru doing there?
>>59452687Singles
>>59452686so everyone is going to run scarfed monkeys then?
>>59452812The monkeys have fake out, decent enough supportive moves and an acceptable 101 speed. I dunno if you run scarf.A weather setter with fake out might see play.
>>59452880>>59452812>>59452686Fuck it, give'em Eruption and Water Spout too. They'll hit harder than Torkoal and base Blastoise do.
>>59452888>eruption Simisear and Mega Pyroaroh god no.
How do we make Machamp work fellas?
Would it have been too much of a stretch to give Scolipede coil? Centiskorch gets it.
>>59453094she doesn't get aqua tail or first impression either. wtf?
>Try to run a M-RaichuX + Rising Voltage Jolteon team>Everyone and their mother suddenly has Lightning Rod Raichu on their teamCan y'all please fucking stop that?
Lum berry Scizor is surprisingly anti rain when paired with ychu and quash sableye for the boosted bug bite into m swampert, freely swords dancing in the rain cause rain players are concerned about playing around Ychu while scizor kills off everything else besides archaludon which Ychu takes care off who always protects first turn in front of it giving you a free SD by fake outing the opposing mon on entry
>>59453182In singles or doubles? I faced someone that that tried that in doubles. His alt mega was Sceptile. I don't remember the rest of his team composition but pretty much Garchomp is enough to destroy him. Jolteon doesn't hit hard enough or have good coverage moves.
>>59453205In Doubles. Garchomp is actually the least of my worries as I run Weather Ball on my Jolteon and have A-Ninetales in the back, so the same turn switch in/Weather Ball works wonders.But yeah, the coverage is usually my issue.
pve soon confirmed
>>59453248retard
>>59453248soon brother inshallah
>>59453229I think that's the main problem with terrains and snow/hail. You need to run a bunch of the same type to benefit from it. Sun helps protect anything weak to water while rain helps protect anything weak to fire. Sand while it only protects rock types there's a bunch of non rock types with abilities that benefit from it. Snow only benefits ice type.
Any tips on how to counter Trick Room when using Big Six? I'm new to online battling, so I'm using Big Six to learn since it's easy to use. Trick Room has been my biggest counter so far because they always lead with a flincher along with the giraffe, so even if I lead Kingambit they just flinch him. Charizard Y and a weather ball can't knock the giraffe out, so I have no choice but to go along with his gay games for 5 turns.
>>59453455i personally run taunt talonflame all of the giraf i encountered during my climb to master ball this season were not running mental herb
I need to stop being such a faggot about being off-meta and just use good Pokemon
>>59453469Use mons you like.
>>59453470Yeah I will but I want to get a feel for what’s popular
>trying to complete Home dexes>put up Pokemon GO Jolteon>obviously can't restrict the pokemon I get, but at least indicate the game I want to transfer it to and say I'm trying to fill my pokedex>someone trades me an identical Pokemon GO Jolteon>this happens multiple timesAre they retarded? Like sure, my offer isn't very enticing, but Jolteon isn't exactly rare or valuable to begin with, so I'm just hoping someone will be nice enough to toss one from SV my way.If someone trades me one from GO, it accomplishes literally nothing and then I have to make the listing again, so I don't understand why they bother. They're getting the same pokemon, same origin, same ability, same fucking everything.
>>59453455You could swap in an Inner Focus/Roar mon like Dragonite or Lucario.
How the fuck does scarf-less Gardevoir outspeed jolly Lycanroc?
>>59453491What move?
>>59453503rock slide. gard had no speed boosts. i know it wasn't scarfed because it loss health from life orb damage.
ah, nvm. forgot tailwind. fuck
last respect basculegion is fucking retarded
>>59451509kowtow cleaveaura sphere hazetaunt doubling into it before it can start the minimize shenanigans OHKO moves
>>59453521A get out of jail free card for bad players
Last respects should only increase by 10 power if its making up for gay teammates like charY, archaludon, sylveon and garchomp fainting
>3 scald burns in a rowFuck off, hope my opponent gets aids
>>59453591shhould require the other pokemon to be deceased
>>59453521gets mogged by trick room and any super effective attack
>>59453660anything with sucker punch too
>finally got all the legendaries and shinies I want after about 2 months of GTS tradingNow I can come back to Champions
>>59452632Game Freak is a retard when it comes to this.
>>59453248Yea, paid dlc.
These fucking time stalling nips have no honor. I hate them so much.
>>59453455>so I have no choice but to go along with his gay games for 5 turnsLead KG and Zard and take advantage of TR yourself.
>>59452269>expert belt goodraplease show me the set. I've been wanting to use one in my team but the hisuian variant is just better
still hardstuck ultra shit tier trying to do trick room mono ghostgambit sucker punch and incin being impossible to kill quickly before it lariats carry so much trouble
>>59453205I played MSeptile/Jolteon a while ago. doing a bit of reassessing this combo can shut down Fake Out mon + Farigiraf set up.
>>59454002Anniliape?
LET ME IN
Since when was Salazzle so... smol?
>>59454025Coomer team spotted in the wild.
>>59454025Salazzle was never big.
>>59454044We have inflation and weight gain to correct that.
>>59454013good idea, but would probably replace golurk necessitating a new charizard check
>>594538482HP/2Def/30Sp Att/32 Speed ModestT-BoltFlamethrowerDraco MeteorGiga DrainI basically just have it as a soft check to weather, namely Swampert as it'll always live the Ice Punch barring a crit and OHKO with Giga Drain. Threatens Peli and Zard-Y with T-Bolt/Draco, chunks Arch, etc. I don't tend to bring it often but Timid is probably better overall.
>>59454086sweet thanks
>picked a perfect team to counter opponent>"oops we're not received your input teehee sowwwyyyy" IN THE LITERAL LAST SECOND OF CHOOSE TEAM SCREEN>the new team comp chosen is fucking dogshit and literally the worst thing ever>with TWO megas getting chosenim honest to god seeing red right now
>>59454044For you
is there a single fucking poke that is more dishonest and yells "meta slave" more than the stupid fucking cup?
>>59454138whimsicottvivillonfarigirafnotice how they are all support
>>594537812 nukes weren't enough
Remember to make fun of Archaludonfags and ask them how Ass Vest is doing for their shitmon.
It's actually shocking how few rock moves make contact. You would think it would be extremely easy to make something like rock fang or rock punch or rock cut. They could bring back rock climb and reskin it as a rock move and it would fit right in with the rest of the imperfect accuracy rock moves.
>>59454138Basculegion, CharYzard, arguably Staraptor, and you can make a case for Mega Steelix for a while, when everyone picked it up after Ducklips nearly won a tournament with it.
>>59454267yeah i wish aerodactyl and tyrantrum had access to a rock-type bite move too
>get a golem from the wonder trade>look if anyone wants it>dude is trading a graveler>what the heck, might as well trade it to him so we both get a golem in the end>trade evolutions do not work on GTS trades
>>59454306because they'd have to make it possible for hold items to exist in home to make it fair for every trade evo
>>59454267How many of you would bet that Charizard is the only reason why Rock moves usually have ass accuracy or weird """"""oversight""""""/"""""""gimmick"""""""
Is this thread trying to disparage the Fisk???List of my complaints about the game so far:1. Not enough Pokémon. How do they not include mons like Gastrodon or Quagsire? 2. Why did Krookodile lose Sucker Punch? Is it "too good" with Moxie? Fuck off Game Freak, it's a desert crocodile that ambushes its prey from underneath the sand. How does Mega Kang get this shit.3. Incredible lack of trainer customization options. I've been playing just over a month now and everyone is starting to look very samey. Why is the shop cluttered with variants of one clothing item in different colors?4. Why aren't there better rewards for the achievements? Give me Stunfisk slippers when I reach 100 victories with my flat fuck, goddamn.5. No single-player battle tower. I'd LOVE to waste time at work playing this game but nooo.
>>59454407>1Mobile game content dripfeed, please understand. Although I have less of a problem with this because at least it makes for a mildly more interesting meta without Amoongus and Salamence farting around, I do agree now would be the time for Quagsire to shine and some people’s nichemons are getting cucked.>2Agreed, total horse shit>3Oh who gives a fuck>4Hell yeah now this I like. Unlocking a silly Houndstone hat when I win with him 100 times would be peak kino. >5Anon I wasted HOURS at work yesterday just dicking around in singles with a silly Sableye set, once you hit UB2 or MB4 the game is basically an infinite battle tower already wtf are you whining about
>>59454393I'm fully convinced Fire has that Fairy resistance only because Mega Char X debuted the same generation and they couldn't let the Kantofags see their beloved finally Dragon-type Charizard fall to Jigglypuff
Somewhat new player here, what's with the stat autism for the giraffe?
>>59454494Calcing to survive something specific. Farigs only goal in life is to click TR most of the time.
>>59454470What is fairy dust supposed to do to fire?
>>59454510Yeah Flying Normal Fighting type and so on should be resisted by Fire too since what's pecking/punching/tackling fire going to do
I can understand mega-stallasaur. I can understand a lot of bullshit. This ruined my day.
>>59454565Its one of those malignant autist pokemon
>>59454565Just Solar Beam it retard
>>59454578My Victreebel was busy getting date raped : (
>>59454588Then use a Pokemon that isn't bad, at least if you're playing ranked
>>59454593Honestly true, my current team is dog water but I haven't had a chance to grind too much since I'm 3 days in.Mega rai, hawklucha, and hydragon are a really good fuck the meta trinity so I can't complain to much : DI hope they put in a draft mode soon so I can fully drop clash royal for a GOOD game.
>>59454267>>59454393>>59454470Knowing the Pokemon franchise and how compromised it is with marketing bias this may as well be true.yet Mega Charizard Y gets fucked by Aurorus using Ancient Power lmfao
>>59454529You'll cope. You'd probably have to think about japanese folklore and what fire does to their fairies.How about European folklore? Do the fairies in the forest like fire? Can they stop it?
>>59450060Deshitueye lol
>>59454507Now I'm curious what those four specific stats are suppose to defend against now.
>>59454565You hate her until you start using it yourself, then it's the greatest pokemon ever.
Hoping and coping that the pros figured out an zard tech that will prevent shillzard from winning the world championship
>>59454732I just played Zard Y in to a Pelliper that stayed in and manually reset with Rain Dance and Weather Ball'd me right after. Even losing Zard Y like that I still ended up ripping the rest of his rain team up. As long as the giraffe walks the Earth, there will be no peace.
>>59454603>can't spell any of those names correctlyare you esl or underage?
>>59454743He's one of my gangstalkers trying to bait me, pay him no mind.
>The Scovillain experience
>>59454761>mega scov
I have been trying to make Malamar work for a week straight and failed. Where is the best place to look for teams that don't force me to watch bait youtube videos for engagement?
>>59454796Marketing demands you succumb to the Charizardslop.
>>59454804I also has no idea how I'm supposed to defend my Malamar with a life orf garchomp and heat wave charizard nucking me with both type of attacks since turn one. Seems like an unwinnable match....on top of the ocasional perish trap gengar and haze milotic
sucker punch BP is too high for what it does the "weakness" of the opponent needing to attack for it to work isn't really a weakness in doubles since passive status/boosting moves are much rarer, and you're still psychologically forcing a 50/50 where you can also just normally attack if you think they'll try to dodge it
>>59454796I just used thishttps://pokebase.app/pokemon-champions/team-builder
Is this anything?Rotom-Wash @ Sitrus Berry Ability: Levitate Level: 50 EVs: 32 HP / 18 Def / 16 SpD Bold Nature - Thunderbolt - Thunder Wave - Hydro Pump - Protect Glimmora @ Glimmoranite Ability: Toxic Debris Level: 50 Shiny: Yes EVs: 1 HP / 32 SpA / 1 SpD / 32 Spe Timid Nature - Sludge Bomb - Power Gem - Earth Power - Protect Sylveon @ Fairy Feather Ability: Pixilate Level: 50 Shiny: Yes EVs: 18 HP / 10 Def / 21 SpA / 17 Spe Modest Nature - Hyper Voice - Hyper Beam - Quick Attack - Detect Whimsicott @ Focus Sash Ability: Prankster Level: 50 EVs: 32 HP / 32 SpA / 2 Spe Modest Nature - Tailwind - Encore - Moonblast - Charm Charizard @ Charizardite Y Ability: Blaze Level: 50 Shiny: Yes EVs: 24 HP / 16 Def / 9 SpA / 17 Spe Modest Nature - Protect - Heat Wave - Weather Ball - Solar Beam Gholdengo @ Life Orb Ability: Good as Gold Level: 50 EVs: 27 HP / 13 Def / 16 SpD / 10 Spe Modest Nature - Make It Rain - Shadow Ball - Nasty Plot - Protect
>>59454826It used to be even higherI avoid using Pokemon known for having it like H-Samurott and Kingambit since it becomes too much of a guessing game
>>59454826Sucker Punch is really easy to punish. If it was notably weaker than Kowtow Cleave it probably wouldn’t even be worth using
I hate fake out
>>59454935join upper hand chadsshits on sucker punch too
>>59454952too bad upper hand has the same priority as fakeout so you still have to be faster than the fakeout mon
>>59454965No shit retard
>>59454967good luck upper handing raichu and sneedler than nigger
>>59454935This is why the giraffe is goated
Just tried to encore a Spiritomb because I thought it was a dark type
>>59454988Both of those Pokemon GET Upper Hand you fucking idiot
>>59454992????
oh boy its a >charizard>garchomp>venusaur >aerodactly rerun!!riveting meta!!!!!!!!!!!!
ran into an opponent just running char-y and arch as their lead without forcing the rain electro shot meme and it was actually kind of tough to deal with, they might be onto somethingrocks that counter charizard barely dink arch and get blown up by flash cannon, but anything that hits arch hard (ground, fighting) don't do shit to charizard
>>59454995yeah and there is 0 point to running it on either of them because the move fucking sucks
>>59455058>zero prediction skill >telling on yourself this hard
>i have no argument so im just going to resort to "your bad"kekaroo another retard owned
>>59455082This, but 'I'm bad'.
>>59455082Suddenly pretending to be retarded doesn’t invalidate all the retarded posts you’ve already made
How do I trick room?
>>59455093press the trick room move when its your turn
>>59455094
>>59455093Lead farig and a sweeper, protect farig ko a mon while they double and set up trick room next turn
>>59455095because i do it
>>59454841Switch Thunder Wave to Wil-o-Miss on Rotom and drop 5 Def EVs and put them into SpD. Change Whimsicott to 2HP 32SpA 32 Spe timid; that extra HP and damage isn't going to help you, but losing a speed tie to an opposing Whimsicott will.
>>59455106But do you think it's a well-balanced team? And what does the Rotom SpD is for? I had Thunder Wave as another form of speed control. I was testing Electroweb in anothe team, but Icy Wind it is not. Sylveon also feels a little lackluster with the lack of coverage.
ironball t tar is the funniest shit>sends out torkoal at the same time as ttar>overwrite it because of gimped speed>they forfeitI just wanted to delete giraffes but this is even better
>>59455102Now I know.
>>59455112The SpD is there because you won't need as much Def when your opponents are burned. It also makes more efficient use of your stats by putting points into Def up until a jump point instead of going five past. In terms of balance, your team is really special heavy; you could probably drop Gholdengo for LO Chomp.
>>59455138Yes, that makes sense. I was thinking of dropping either Sylveon or the Gholdengo, but it's such a nice spread. I use it in another team and it never lets me down.
16 years of decision paralysis. IDK how many of these are still out there unevolved, but at least I can still use it whenever Z-moves are added.
>Mr Rime vs Scovillain in free pullWhich one is more fun to play?
>altaria used helping hand>gholdengos Good As Gold activatesKek
>>59455278Scovillain has a mega that sees niche play. Give it a try.
>>59455278i guess scovillain.Rime is a really niche support mon.
>>59454841Take 2 points out of Zard's SpAtk and put them in Def. Readjust its HP/Def to 20 and 21 respectively. I also like Sylveon to be more defensively bulky than fast. So 16HP, 29Def, 16SpAtk, and 5Spe. The 5 Speed allows you to outspeed Chomp under Tailwind. The extra Def will survive things like Adamant 32 Dire Claw almost all the time.
>timerstalling cause sableye quashed your boosted blastoiseI'm not playing minimize Overqwil bs cmon
>>59455211I miss my Z-Celebrate Umbreon…
>>59455093Iron Defense Calm Mind Body Press Stored Power mega slowbro with instruct oranguru, sinistcha for redirection + healing and psych up heal pulse aromatisse whos ability protects your side from encore and can copy slowbros boosts + underspeeds slowbro in TR, have a torkoal cause this gets destroyed by gholdengo and torkoal has cool synergy with oranguru, last member either a kingambit or farigaraf
DoneSaw some weird teams prior to master (solar beam lead whimsicott)
>>59455375How was Rampardos?
>>59455294>>59455295Thanks bros
Fun but honestly just OK. STAB rockslide ruins a lot of fire leads but he's locked to choice scarf and he's too frail to survive in trick rooms. Aerodactyl does everything he does but better IMO.
>>59455394oops meant for >>59455377
You ever have a match that actually feels like a really great back and forth, predictions on both sides, everyone playing well, then you just click the obvious move once and win leaving you going "Oh, it was all a sham. I should have just done that in the first place."
>>59455412as you get to higher levels it becomes predicting predicted predictions. sometimes just doing the unga bunga most obvious thing is the right choice.
>>59455418The specific game I was thinking of was me vs. an Audino TR + M-Chimecho game, turns out I shouldn't have been trying to keep it manageable with parting shot and stuff because Flare Blitz just one shot it.
Need another hatterene as all trick room setters seem to have 4mss along with a multitude of optimal stat builds thanks
>>59455418I know that feel, lost a game cause I thought mega blaziken just uses detect then attack, detect then attack, rarely ever just hits on the first turn of entry
Why don’t you guys ever post any memes about this game? 4chan used to have all the dankest memes, man
You know, taunt is only really good once in every 10 games but man that 1 game its good is usually marvelous.
>>59455467Is that 1 in 10 game vs that minimize overqwil bs?
Feeling the urge to blow stuff up (in pokemon champions)
>>59455449Stunfisk is unironically the only good place to find good comp memes.
>>59453442Actually, I think that's one of the reasons snow is the best anti-weather weather. Most sun/rain teams know their going against sun/rain, so they account for it in their team building and with Sand you need to build around it to have it not be detrimental to you. But with Snow there is no huge advantage for you, but there is also no advantage for you opponent. All it does is disrupt your opponent's weather, which is enough of an upside to have it on your team.
>>59454811Pair it with M-Scrafty, Scrafty Intimidates the opponents attack into the dirt so you can invest fully into SDef.
Needed a Ground type to rebalance my team and saw that the only one that with the bill was Garchomp, I feel so dirty.In other news, I know how to defeat that fucking Giraffe and TR teams in general.
>>59455348Not like that'll do us any good. There's no way in hell they will ever let Z-Celebrate, Z-Hold Hands, or Z-Happy Hour in. At least I can count on Z-Conversion, or Z-Forest's Curse if I'm in casual battles.
What does Klefki do besides set screens and maybe Rain Dance?
>>59455633there's a klefki strat involving m sableye, minimize overqwil and meowstic. klefki is the sweeper
>>59455642With what? Psych Up to just steal all the faggot shit Overqwil does? Can it do anything cooler?
does kingambit have a million defense or something
>>59455682100hp/120def so kinda yeah
>>59455661It uses Dazzling Gleam and Stored Power with Psych Up, yeah
Has singles always been gay? I tried it out because of the tournament and all the matches are just who can boost the most, or get away with boosting. There's no interaction until your opponent can OHKO.
why are people usign steelix
>>59455714i see wolfe use it must mean it's "the meta™"
>>59455714Watch Indianapolis Regionals from earlier this year.I'm not saying it's good, because you have to outplay your opponent substantially, but it has a niche in the meta.
>>59455714Its better le wall xdddd
>>59455736That ground STAB definitely makes it better.
>>59451711if your favorite is here then you should kys
You ready for scarf Chi-Yu's return?
>>59455752They’re probably gonna add the rest of the remaining normal Pokemon before Legendaries / Paradoxes desu
>>59455759I speculate after Worlds, we'll move in to a LC meta for a couple months, then get a batch that looks pretty much identical to Paldea. That'll be the year.
>>59455769I don't know what you're talking about. Next year if they don't immediately put in Winds and Waves Pokémon and the gimmick I would imagine would be a restricted legendaries ruleset or a mega tera ruleset. They have to put in tera at some point. That's what they teased the game with. 2028 they'll 100% have Gen 10 Pokémon and Home support.
>>59455786We'll have a sub legendary format before even a single restricted one.
>>59455786>Wind and Waves>next year
>>59455786I presumed they would have a WiWa format on release
>>59454761>enemy is all physical attackers, all of my moves are Sp. Atk>Moody keeps giving me nothing but Sp. Def and physical AtkLive by the RNG, die by the RNG.
How's the game run on iphone?
>>59455821runs fine but absolutely trashes battery life
>>59455822I see, seems ok on a road trip with the phone plugged in maybe?
>>59455709yeah. singles NEEDS 6 mons
>>59455692>machop uses Mach Punch!
>>59450486>>59450151
>>59455919Sir, we only use that joke against shitmons.
I don't understand how the people in ultra ball tier are in the same tierhalf the teams are running pure meta slop that will just curbstomp my meme teams, but the other half are running bizarre sets and making choices as if they don't know how anything in the game works
If I win, I'm great.But if I lose, they're brown.Simple as.
>scarfed eruption h-typhlosion and charizard-Y leadwait wtf are you supposed to do here can't fake out typh, follow me/rage does nothingjust kill myself for not bringing wide guard i guess?
>Knock Off does not get a 50% damage boost and cannot remove a Mega Stone if it is held by the correct Pokémon that can use it.what is this fucking horseshit
>On the back-foot all match>Turn it around>Suddenly all the opponent's moves take a minuteFucken sore losers
>>59455477No it was versus some shell smash protect the castle blastoise team with 4 support mons, blastoise and kingambit
I keep seeing so much charizard it makes me just want to make some kind of team with a lot of flash fire users but I know the moment I make it I'll run into nothing but pelipper and basculegion.
>>59456089I murder it with Scarfdreigon every time>>59456213When I’m losing I take every possible second to think about my moves just because I want to win, not out of spite
Heat wave incineroar is actually pretty funny in torkoal room teams. Even without torkoal he just catches everyone off guard. Nobody expects it. I've been running heat wave, sunny day (to counter pelipper switch ins/u-turns/rain dance), protect and fake out and the ground berry. Works well with fari
Which one of you CHUDS was this
>>59456335sharty meme, sadly.
>>59456335that's just a twitter kid
>>59456347Nate Higgers has been a thing way before that even existed kid. You should go tell your parents or guardians to activate the parental locks on your tablet because little kids shouldn't even know about this site.
>>59455095you tell me
I fucking hate Sneasler and Archaludon
>>59456656Sneasler single handedly created the giraffe
>>59456656sneedler is a necessary evil
New bread ya lazy bastards. >>59456970>>59456970>>59456970
I love tyranitar but he just feels so awful to play. His only use is killing fari.. a role which is better filled by gambit. otherwise he is easy to kill.
