Whimsicott editionPokémon Champions is a free to play online battle simulator available on Switch and mobile. It features ranked, casual and private battles for both singles and doubles, and will be used for VGC tournaments in 2026.>NewsReg MC is now live. Baltimore Regionals September 18-20th>Resources and useful linksCommunity Tournaments usage data: https://pikalytics.com/Ladder usage data: https://pokechamdb.com/enDamage Calculator https://nerd-of-now.github.io/NCP-VGC-Damage-Calculator/New Player Guide(NEW PEOPLE READ THIS):https://rentry.org/pcg-guide (now taking suggestions and feedback)Quick FAQ>Do I need my own Pokémon to play?No, the game features a recruitment system, but transferring from Home is recommended to save time and resources.>What makes the game so much more accessible than before?All aspects of a Pokémon are customizable with VP, a currency earned simply by playing the game. IVs are also removed.Ask in the thread if you want any specific Pokémon, and someone will respond.>Is there single player content?No.>Do I need a Nintendo Online subscription?No.>What's the starter pack?US$6.99 one time purchase for 50 training tickets (fully train for free), 30 Teammate Tickets (recruit Pokemon without using VP), 50 extra box space and the LGPE trainer music. Only available on Switch for now.>Is anything locked behind a paywall?So far everything gameplay relevant is also purchasable with VP. Only E-Floette require ZA transfer.>/pcg/ OP pastebin (use this if making new thread): https://pastebin.com/d2FJZdPhOld >>59590755
first for our fuarking champion
free mythicals
Mega Salamence did not lose its touch, unlike mega metagross. Its dominanting online tournaments and offline tournaments on different archtypes.
>>59593171Insane they let it keep Double edge, tailwind and hyper voice but they took double edge away from pinsir, and took heavy slam from metagross lol
>scar atalesWtf???
>>59593179Mence check?
i'm so sick of being forced to play like a retard because gardevoir might have mystical fire
>psychic terrain team with basculegion>can't sucker punch itoh I loathe this guess it's use the monkey or fuck you and die if you don't want to
what are you guys running on volcaroni
Hmm... belly drum zardx in trick room psyterrain sounds... plausible
After 3 consecutive losses from failed experiments, i just beat the luckiest bastard without running a single mega on the field>m froslass freezing my indeedee twice in end game>same lass surviving an iron head at 1 hp>his gambit tanking a crit lowkick with his chople berry>still clinch a win against this luckmaxxed bastard with my gambit 1v2 his mlass at 1 hp and gambit at 30% hp bec his gambit wasnt running low kickHeh.
>>59593191Pretty much. Caught me off guard. I was running regular physmence on the field and thought the dragon dance was enough. Im going back to trick room.
>>59593324they all seem to run quiver, heat wave or fiery dance, giga drain, and protect
>>59593373Rage powder over protect
>>59593324your 2 options are bulky rage powder flame body support or quiver dance with setup support teammatesbulky rage powder flame body is specifically "the thing volcarona can do that no other mon can" but quiverslop is still devastating if you can get it set up
>>59593239I've got rillaboom on my team and I don't even bring it to most games.
>>59593380>bulky rage powder flame body is specifically "the thing volcarona can do that no other mon can"villainbros....
>>59593387Kek. Jokes aside, mega scovillain could still work. Just with the new meta, role compression is better than fielding the wrong mega.
>>59593387Volc doesn't waste your mega slot
probably a retarded question but is there an easy way to evolve via Home without a mainline gamefound a shiny gible in Go but I'm assuming champions won't just let me import and automatically evolve it or whatever and don't want to use all my candy evolving it in Goyes i should have just farmed more gible candy on gible day
>>59593400Set it as a buddy and walk
https://x.com/TraeBball/status/2099280421401903557Zompzomp...
>>59593400No but if you want to i can evolve it for you.
What's with the sudden rise of Y-chu?
>>59593414won a tournament thing yesterdayalso matches pretty well into rain which is getting more popular again
>>59593411>>59593411Humiliation ritual. Still cant beat the Ch'ding fight in terms of sheer hilarity though
>>59593414Earthquake has been "nerfed" due to grassy terrain so fewer garchomps and ychu is safer to run again
assault vest when?
>>59593423When dondozo drops
MORE ZOMPS TODAY THAN EVER PEOPLE ARE STARTING TO BELIEVE
>>59593423Just use psyseed bro
>>59593429Actually why is no one running Arch with psyseed or am I behind
>>59593433you will still get sneedled and feedled
>>59593433Arch really wants its lefties I guess.Or whatever else it usually runs.
>>59593171It doesn’t make sense that game freak goes out of their way to make sure all garchomp forms aren’t broken, but goes OUT of there way to make sure Salamence forms are broken
>>59593461Garchomp has always been a very good Pokémon. Salamence base form is niche at best. Garchomp doesn’t need to be broken.
>opponent zucario underspeeds my adamant sneasler with unburden not active yethuh, how ...why?
>>59593468>ability basically doubles the effectiveness of HP vs many attacks>already fast as fuckThere’s no reason to go full speed
>>59593468bulkario
Make it rain did not need to get nerfed
>>59593470>>59593471I checked and apparently neutral nature zucario underspeeds +32 adamant sneasler by literally one point I thought he had to have been running a minus speed nature which was the part that confused me, but apparently not
>>59593473coin hands typed this post
>>595934735 accuracy is such a retarded nerf>this is still the best move but sometimes you get randomly fucked when you use it :D
Draft league's in october right?
icicle crash has focus miss accuracy do not believe their lies
>>59593503if it's not 100 it's 50, you should already know this
>just went up against fake raichu x + dragon dance breaking swipe dragonitethat's pretty damn smart desu
what ev spread is megavoir running?
i hate the sheer number of matchup problems that were solved all at once when I added sneasler to my team
Zomp sounds fucking retarded
>>59593146what was her name again?
Stone axe deserves 100% accuracy. Kleavor deserves more love. Unlike, heh, Scizor.
I get why mega garchomp z lost its ground typing in lore, but man did that fuck it over VGC wise
>>59593585saved it from getting RILLAD.com
>>59593528I'd run Modest 21HP, 31Def, 11Spe, and whatever you want in SpAtk.You outspeed Adamant Basc, survive a pretty strong Double Edge from Mence, etc Pair with Indeedee
terrain pulse toise is some dirty shit
>>59593575AbZol, Zomp, ZucarioEhh
>>59593496most likely, we are taking a break in the first half of C after all
>>59593629Was it hanging in the back? Doesnt that get rilla'd bad? What was the overall set?
>>59593575Zomp zomp
>>59593648dual terrain feat. arma
>>59593495This, I don't care about the -2 instead of -1 but the stupid accuracy nerf is so frustrating
stadium 1-2 tracks fucking when
It's been funny seeing people bitch on twitter about wasted slots for the newly released Pokemon and I then having people actually find niches for them.
Is an Iron Ball on Rillaboom to guarantee getting terrain up against Indeedee, then Flinging it onto it or its partner (Gardevoir and Hatterene come to mind) on a TR team a good or bad idea?
>>59593696sure why not, you probably don't need to fling it though that's a precious moveslot and you're expected to go last anyway
>>59593449>Arch really wants its leftiesfat fuck
>>59593696Sure if you're struggling into Indeedee comps
sneed arch is legitand zompers stay winning
>covert cloakarch upscale to attack it with your own fake out and start stacking stamina turn 1>assault vestarchaludon upscale>safety gogglesarchaludon upscale>choice itemsgood for archaludon's partnersnow you know why they only added the sneeds, hope this helps
Raichu Y is definitely the pokemon to deal with salamence sand teams. It sounds counter productive to bring raichu into sand but its ability to resist the hyper voice and one shot ttar is too good.
Cornered a guy early with boosts and he started spamming sneas rock slide and stalled the game with consecutive flinches
>>59593846Lol, I did this yesterday with dark pulse Blastoise and got 3 flinches in a row.
>>59593696Why not just fake out Indeedee and kill it before it can get trick room up?
>>59593853he is running tr nigga
>>59593648Grassy glide only does about 70% damage to Blastoise. He'll always get at least one attack off.
>>59593858Oh fuck, I misread it as "against a TR team"
>Vivillon used Sleep Powder
what are your finest wiggly techs
sinistcha might still be pretty good desu, trying out the houndoom anon suggested for psyspam on my lopunny team and it helps it against sneedlers
>>59593872also helps against the ychu epidemic
>run double mega mence and frosslass>think its brilliant>still being mence in 99% of gamesgod dammit
I found an awesome Tox in my boxes that satisfies my ball and title tism
>>59593885Dual mega with mence is a waste, just always bring it and prepare a counter against whatever the opponent brings.
who the hell posted about mence-rilla-incin-sneas-floette-gambit it's 90% of my games today they all lead the same too
>>59593872You can run trick room on it to reverse their trick room too. Or if your opponent gets tailwind and you don't trickroom or if their sweeper is faster than your sweeper. Lot of uses besides hard trick room for the move.
>>59593869>this nigga still complaining about Great Ball techs
>>59593911cybertron posted a similar metaslop team but it's no wonder everyone is using [6 strongest mons put together]really liking this easy to check meta
>>59593939yeah but there was more menceslop variety yesterday at least with 1-3 different techmons so something must've happened
I've had a lot of fun with Absol-Z. Thankfully most Rilla spammers in low masterball don't seem to be aware of Absol-Z's ghost typing or the fact grassy glide is a OHKO. A lot of fake outs into Absol turn 1
>>59593911It's mence balance.I think the meta will warp in a way to be extremely unfavorable to it in short order.
>>59593983when I ran abzol i had enemy abzols close combat into mine
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OPZs0MmDfqo
what's a good psyspam team comp?
>>59593983The funniest part about this is, it’s shows you the type on team preview, and you can just check at any moment during the match
>>59594101zomphaters will learn today
>try out mega houndoom to hard counter psyspam>face 0 (zero) psyspam for the following 10 gamescool
This guy pulls up turn 1 and you have to make a choiceIs he clicking protect or nasty plot?
>>59594204I mega my Zard and click Heat Wave regardless
How do you guys deal with that fucker Golisopod? it always takes me one Luxray and half Swampert to get rid of him but I can't deal it with only one pokemon.Also not getting past UB level it's driving me nuts. I want more space in my box AAAAAAAAAAAA.
>>59594225Fwamethwo with my zomp zomp
Zomper stomper
>>59594225like arch you gotta go special or one shot nukeand shout out to steel boys like ghold and corv
>lost to a non-coil milotic that hit 4/4 hypnosis
>>59594225Any STAB fire move one-shots it. Too bad he also has:>first impression>fake out>sucker punch
>>59594225chip damage. unless its in TR, its moving last all the time
zomp lost to meganium...
reached top 100 on bo3 showdown ladder
at what level do your box expand past 30?
>>59594279fun fact, meganium has not day 2ed in ANY of the champions majors.
>>59593146LE FUNNY SHEPE
>>59594301if your a serious player, you need more then 30 spots in the box.
>they add rillaboom and salamence>meta turns into intimidate musical chairsm-d can't come soon enough
>>59594311>meta turns into intimidate musical chairsso theres a pokemon who had an 80% usage rate at worlds, and was used in 90% of the top cut teams that would help you vs that
>their dire claw puts my pokemon to sleep>my dire claw does nothing
m-d will have the genies
>opponent starts with deedee + garde/hat/rouge>it's trick room guessing game time
closed team sheet is making me want to peel off my skin
>>59594307that doesn't answer my question
>>59594311>m-d can't come soon enoughYou think that won't be it too?We're unironically years away from included Pokemon getting disallowed at all.And those two in particular? Rillaboom is a starter and GF has a fetish allowing starters as much as possible. It won't ever be put on a list. And Mence? Well, you'll just have to wait until Mega format is over.Learn to like them because they're here to stay. Those two are mainstays even on restricted formats.
>>59594311>>they add rillaboom and salamence>implying these two dont get used in restricted formatsmence won worlds in a dual restricted format with xern and the primals btw. rilla is a staple on CSR Balance and won worlds on a comp like that as well like the other anon said, get used to them now.
Normgroids have discovered explosion glailie and revival blessing and think its the funniest shit ever
>>59594409It’s fucked that mega galies only niche is to blow itself up ASAP
>>59593465Garchomp is fucking washed as shit.The second Landorus-T comes to play Garchomp becomes utterly irrelevant 99.9% of the time.It's only ever good on low-power metagames where 3/4 of the dex is gone. Why in God's name do you think it took it over a decade to win Worlds again? The last time Garchomp was fucking relevant was fucking 2017 and that's a prime example of a regional low powerdex meta where the options where so lacking fucking Golduck was the premier Rain sweeper.It's been struggling for relevance for generations now even on Singles to the point it finally fucking dropped out of OU and the only reason it stayed on OU was because people racked their their The Pokemon most known for being an offensive monster thanks to its trolly 102 base sweep reduced to being a living Rocky Helmet.Garchomp is so fucking washed even it finally getting Dragon Dance would be just like "eh, it's okay, SD is still better most of the time". And that fucking happened on the NatDex metas.>Hurr doesn't need to be a broken durrYou know what else doesn't need to be broken?All the gorillion quintillion min-maxed pieces of shit with romhack fanfic. We didn't need Sneasler or Kingambit or Flutter Mane or Zacian or Chien Pao or meme horses or Urshifu or Ursaluna or Archadulon.So fucking what if Garchomp would have gotten an actually broken Mega. This worthless piece of shit kusoge is already a broken piece of shit metagame.But SOMEHOW Garchomp is the line that must NEVER be crossed. And why the fuck are we acting like if Mence wasn't a super good mon in Gen 3, 4 and 5 to begin with? Why are we pretending he was a little shitmon desperate for any relevancy? Fuck you, dishonest faggot.
i hate triple axel so much it's unreal
>>59594412Hmm it can check rain teams pretty hard with freeze dry. Speed control can dunk salamence and garchomp. Just a shame incineroar and the sneedler exist cause they turbofuck it
golisobros what happened to the hype
>>59594345my prediction for m-d is that there will be one set of 3 legendaries eg. the three legendary birds, and every season after that will include 3 legendaries for the banner image, instead of 3 starters as with the previous two seasonsheatran & the latis will also be added but thats because they have megas
>>59593387Regular scov couldve worked as a rage powder user if Moody still had a chance to boost evasion
>>59593414It's because of CHADcurchin dont let the others fool you
>found some pokemon in M-A and M-B annoying but generally enjoyed playing it>M-C comes around and I barely have any fun and have not yet found an effective team I enjoy usingI hit 1900 last season, but this season I'm struggling to get above 1600. I was looking forward to them adding Salamence because it's been one of my favorites for over 20 years but I might stop playing for a while.
>>59593575Zomp is retarded so it fits
>>59593585Imagine it became Dragon/Rock instead haha
>>59593825I actually think the damage boosting choice items are super unhealthy and hope they dont add them til the restricteds are added in
>>59593585being pure dragon helps in a FWG format. also its faster then mence and can KO. its got the tools to be good
>>59593983phantom force is the only move i ever click when i use it.
>>59594422Golisopod's mega typing unironically nerfs it in this meta. Water Bug is WAY better than Steel Bug when you're fighting Incineroar every game
>>59594419Trvke Garchomp is a midladder crutchmon. Great Musth or Lando-highT will put her out of work EASILY
What's the zomp set? Meteor+Flamethrower+Power Gem+Protect?
>>59594478Sejun was running that withdpulse instead of meteor alongside the fake out brothers and coil milotic so chomp would be sticking around for a while
>>59594422I dunno, I'm still running him in every game
>put a bunch of strong consistent slop on the team>immediately get matched up against a bunch of shitmons specifically built to counter the pokemon I just added to the teamit is impossible to win in this kusoge
>>59594498Just dont use Garchomp-Z into ch'ding anon
>>59594498That's part of why shit like Incineroar will climb well, because EOMM literally doesnt know how to counter him. Even if you line up water types, rock types, bug types etc in front of him he still will just intimidate them, flinch them, slow pivot on them. So I theorize an un-eomm-able team consists of things like that who can beat their "counters" too
Can someone explain how this ugly piece of shit isnt broken? Everything is lined up for it but it jobs anyway.>no good ground special attackers>barely any special fighting type optionsLike hes fucking insane, grassy terrain coverage further helps him and he cant even get oneshot by most close combat users. So even then why is he just not dominating.
>>59594545lack of AV and being stuck on rain teams only holds it back, its still a great mon
>>59594545Adamant sneedler ohkos
>>59594545He gets 2 shot from any neutral special attack. You don't even need to switch in a counter. Just hit blizzard twice and he's out.
>>59594558>Adamant 32 ATK Sneedler has a 56% chance to OHKO neutral-nature 0 DEF Archftfy
>>59594545He's right on the cusp of being the most op piece of shit youve ever seen in your life. Right now I'd put him in high A low S tier
>>59594469Ironically, or funnily enough, Landorus-T + Garchomp Z might actually be a good pair/combo.Just gotta be careful of those pesky Blizzards.
holy fuck I love inteleon this thing does so much damage, you just pair it with fake out users and call their protects right and they just go down like flies, nobody knows what this guy doesone step closer to a good lopunny team
>3v2 endgame against zard and chomp with one low HP mon>can't attack zard because it will delay mega and protect >can't attack chomp because it will rough skin my attacker and force me to bring in my rain setter before zard megasfuck you
>>59594638>/pcg/ shits on zard+chomp>/pcg/ loses to zard+chompit's like poetry, it rhymes
when does champ tier unlock
>played against rockslide sneasler with fakeout, fakeout Ychu, and incineror and rilla with fakeout.Bro, how bad do you crave wins to run something like this. I guess farig tsareena or psychic terrain will be a must in this meta.
Mega Froslass, Pawmot, and uh, what else?
>>59594676Don't forget ghost types are also immune to fake-out. That's why I like mega Froslass so much.
>>59594545>archaludon is meta relevant while my favorites are made to eat shit>even meganium with its mega evolution is fucked over because of how the meta isI'm tired of this.
>>59594545I still can't believe this piece of shit is a real Pokemon and not an ultra beast.
>>59594687At least meganium is still better than sceptile
>>59594676Run the giraffe till you can predict fake outs, and when you can predict them hard switch something important straight into them (or use upper hand)
Salamence get bird type feint
>guy just running snipe shot inteleon with a bunch of anti-priority / redirection partnersson... gambling is a vice
>>59593496Regulation D is December right?
>>59594687Deserved for ever liking troonganium
>>59594705I can read fakeouts fine but Id rather not even play that fame besides when every mon on their team has fakeout you are going to be taking hits no matter how good your calls cause you cant just protect and switch every turn.
6-streak with Grapploct + mega lucario
>>59594545he's a pseudo-legendary so it's okay
>>59594751Pokeaim... I kneel. I will never slander your shitmon hodgepodge teams again...
crafted a potentially evil perish team in my head>m-gengar>politoed>incin>pawmot>rilla>m-golisopodgeneral idea is pawmot can revival blessing once or twice depending on the item to ensure perish can continue if gengar goes down. m-golisopod works well with rilla and politoed in general so its for teams that can counter perish effectively. deciding if this concept is worth it or not before properly crafting/investing
>>59594204>Good As Gold grants an immunity on Status moves>Can still use ProtectReally makes your pinker stinker, huh?
REMOVE ARCHALUDON FROM THE FUCKING GAME HOLY SHIT
>>59594545lack of assault vest and body press hinders it hard, on top of sneasler being incredibly dominant stopping its steamroll>>59594762bait or larp
>thunder punch ttarlmao this guy has a had enough with pelipper
>life orb basc outsped my modest toxtricity in TRyou never know with this piece of fish
>>59594785>good as gold somehow preventing protectimagine the seethe
>opponent has the demon bridge>he does not start with it>cannot hit his pokemon with anything other than sneedler close combat in case he switches in and i give him a free stamina boost
what do i climb to champions with this season hmmmm
>>59594781Its not pokeaims team, I made it before the video7-streak now
>>59594751based ive been meaning to try grapp
So I should definitely cough up the $7 if I want to get into this, right? The box space alone makes it seem worth it.
>>59594826Yeah get the starter but don't worry about the monthly cosplay pass
>>59594816He started the storm throw meme streaming day 1. We all him to thank
>>59594785>Can still use ProtectThis is why.
>>59594830I picked the guy so playing dress up is impossible anyway, thanks.
>>59594832what else are you gonna do with technician bwi
>>59594837no one knows what technician bwi means
How do I buy old dress up options from the passes? Is it possible?
omw down to 1400 rn
rillaboom players please stop trying to fake out my dragonite, it will not work and you will die in a hurricane
>>59594852>pov turn one of this game
All Pelipper players deserve to be skinned alive tbdesu
>>59594832I started using it independently
>>59594855kek
WOW I LOVE THE PSYCHIC TERRAIN / TRICK ROOM / PSYSPAM / RAIN MEGA GOLISOPOD METAIT'S SO FUN WOW I LOVE THIS GAME :DDDD>prepare for that shit>next game is salemence
why on arceus's green earth do i keep running into people running speed invested incineroar
>this new team is INSANE>rilla-incin-sneed
>switch out glimmora from salamence because it got parting shotted earlier>salamence used earthquake!kek dodged a fucking bullet
okay but seriously how do i deal with rain golisopod? do i actually have to bring my own weather just for this thing?
>>59594870Just hit it with fire move anyways lol
>>59594871>select "flare blitz" on incineroar>pelipper used weather ball>incineroar fainted
>>59594870fire coverage on any fast special attacker, it does big numbers even in the rain - ideally pair it with a fake out user so pod can't revenge kill the attackerfunnily enough running your own rain team can also work since pod gets walled by arch, basc (unless it has sucker punch) and itself, and you win the pod mirror with liquidation
>>59594882I tried Flamethrower on my timid Salamence and it didn't do much.
>>59594875incin's not a great counter since he's a physical attacker and slow
>>59594545>32- SpA Life Orb Kommo-o Focus Blast vs. 32 HP / 32 SpD Archaludon: 205-244 (104 - 123.8%) -- guaranteed OHKOnot my problemon a serious note, archaludon should be a much slower pokemon
Any suggestions for the last slot? >M Tyranitar (DD)>Excadrill>Corviknight (Bulk Up TW)>Sinistcha (TR)>Inceliroar
>>59594891milotic
Can someone give me a good team to use? I really hate dealing with rain teams and trick room in particular.I am currently running>Salamence>Kingambit>Basculegion>Incineroar>Rillaboom>Sneaslerand I kind of hate it.
>>59594891Corphish
>>59594900if you hate it, run a rain/tr team yourself
>>59594896I thought about that, I'm not sure who would get lefties between it and Corvi
>>59594890no man we dont need hard TR arch
>>59594910I don't want to run rain or trick room
>>59594891pawmot
>>59594889Mega Meganium has a chance?
>>59594875Mega Houndoom Toxtricity combo for one shotting the isopod and pelipper
>>59594890Kommo-o deserves a mega
>>59594920yeah actually but you'd need to run psy terrain or farig to avoid getting turbo mogged
>>59594891Chomp Z
Hot Dog, Taco, Hamburger
>>59594875Sash Harc
>>59594915If you do it for 10 games you'll see how people beat itI guess go find games to watch on showdown
>>59594870You don't even need any SpA investment to guarantee OHKO 32 HP/ 32+ SpD Pod.
>decide to run a salamence team>lose 200 rating points
This >>59594938 was for >>59594920
>>59594870focus energy snipe shot
>>59594948>>59594900Hmm interesting
I really hate whoever is the baranigger at GF who keeps nepobabying baracat and baragorilla.The worst part is that since they're starters we will never be free of them no matter what no matter how low the powerlevel of the meta is.
>>59594912arch already going first because of pelliper tailwind. at least with trick room he will need 2 turns to set up both rain dance and trick room
>>59594948tfw kingambit #4 and I haven't seen one all day
>>59593861Rilla outspeeds Timid Blast though
I've been using Noivern as a Megamence at home and its been doing wonders with sash and max speed/spatk. Outspeeding sneed and OHKOing non bulky ones with psychic, getting tailwinds off before mences, chip damage with heat wave. My only problem so far is that dragon pulse doesn't get the kos on garchomp or mence and draco is unreliable.
I'm doing real bad this regulation. I started out in 16.5 and I'm way down to 14.
How should I pick the pokemon I lead with?>>59595002Same >_<
>>59594870Armarouge. Has moves for other common mons and access to Wide Guard. Aura Sphere also 2HKOs Incin and Arch. Full meme option, Burn Up Typhlosion
>expect opponent to lead with certain pokemon>choose to lead with pokemon that counter those pokemon>opponent leads with pokemon that counter my leadsMy rating is going down the toilet this season holy shit
>>59595005check the opponents team for trick room users, fake out users, intimidators, or tailwind setters - these are almost always their leadsthen pick whatever mons on your team counter those the best
I really tried to make megabunny work in balance like last regulation but she's just too squishy for such the amount of pivoting you need to do in those teams, at least she can be run with a few bulk EVs now that she's forced to be Jolly (last regulation could easily run Adamant) and be exactly at 190. So the next best step is as a trick room finisher like some giganiche teams did last reg, except that now there's also the option of going for a psyspam finisher, those are the only two I could come up with>tr with rilla+farig grassy sneed lead (this shit is super funny nothing can kill it) to U-turn out to mega camel or hatterene, then finish off with either gambit or bunny>megarde psyspam with eject button follow me deedee to pivot into arma, punny, basc or sinistcha for redirectmaxxing and optional/anti trick roomnow I gotta get to work and make Palafin and Delphox playable again, these 2 have it harder than lopunny lol
>>59595000I use Wide Lens on mine since Sash is usually taken by something else on them. Never have to worry about missing Dracos or Air Slashes with it,
>>59595028>do this>their picks are totally different and counter my picks:D
>>59595070it happens to everyonethis is part of the reason pivot mons are so good, since you can escape bad lead matchups without hard switching
>>59595038I hate having to run jolly
Since Chomp Z is somewhat beating the fraud allegations, is there any hope for Lucario Z and Absol Z? I've heard Lucario Z is doing better since people started using the Nasty Plot set but not a peep of salvation for Absol Z.
>>59595075>this is part of the reason pivot mons are so good, since you can escape bad lead matchups without hard switchingI do not currently have any pivot moves on my team, and if I were to add one my team would be missing other important moves.I'm doing terribly this season and it's making me question every single choice I make.
>>59595081Absol z needs protection and dies to spread moves its cooked
>>59595076me too, missing the guaranteed OHKO on 32/32 chople gambit and having arch's drop from 75% to 25%, what hurts the most is that adamant is just 2 fucking points under jolly/timid 120
>these retards think that the best way to open is to "counter-pick" so they're playing in favor of their enemy before the fight even starts>Not having a safe opener in your team to set up early and then switch into an offensive tempo by reading your opponent>Yfw you pulled out the cuck chair without even realizing it
Remember to chip damage appropriately. When you protect you could be chipping. I win a bunch of games just cause I appropriately wore down pokemon into ko range
>>59595081zomp is saved by being reasonably bulky and splashable the others kinda require too much work
why are niggas still using sylveonmove on bro
mega bax lives through cc from jolly sneedler and tanks adamant with any sort of mitigation just thought i'd let you know
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>opponent has farigiraf on their team>can't ever use priority moves in case they decide to switch in farigiraf
>>59595104This anon HAS NOT read the Art of War.
>>59595104anon what is your "safe opener" that doesn't lose to any counterpicks, we'd like to know
I want a draft mode >start your game>get a roster ranch of 10 pokemon>pick 4>you get 2 minutes to do this>move time for both players reduced to 10 seconds
primarina seems really popular right nowat least, more than usual
>opponent leads with farigiraf + fake out>uses trick room>i lose
m-d will have sawk and throh
>>59594805It happened again :)))
>>59595081Mega absol can do something pribably, fuck garchomp z you cant pay me to gas up that dog shit.
>>59593146Fuck play rough. THAT SHIT ALWAYS MISSES. I have stopped using Azu cuz Play Rough was just so reliable. Decided to use it again, first time I clicked play rough in like 3 months.Miss.Lose.I feel like I'm being punked. 90% accurate? This shit lands like 60% of the time. FUCK.
>my dire claw proc chance: 1%>their dire claw proc chance: 75%should i start running poison jab instead so i don't have any false hope of getting a sleep or paralysis
losing quad ice weakness is kind of a nothing burger for chomp z, but gaining a resistance to water is actually kinda huge and underrated
>>59595219My volcarona makes me cry with how many critical heatwaves it just misses
>>59595219That's be happening to me with Sylveon and hyper beam it's rage inducing.
>whims tried to encore under psychic terrain>zard y clicks rock slideill take the w but man wtf is happening in ultra ball
when are they removing trick room
Kek this is gold
>>59595243big things happening in great ball
>stuck at 1400i am a failure
>>59595248You're just tilted and probably using suboptimal sets for your mons, anon. It happens.
>>59595249ok buddy tell me what to use :D
>>59595251What are you using in the first place?
>>59595255generic baby meta team like this anon>>59594900
>timerstalling cause you chose the worst possible team against mineI'm not playing perish trap or overqwil bs, just tanky SD golisopod behind a sub
mencekeks really think mixed double edge ohko's floette lolget dazzled retard
>>59595264>le infinite health bug has arrivedyou deserve it
>>59595259If you're going to use a team of the most common meta mons, you have to account for the fact that people will be aiming to counter, check, and know how to play around them every game. You probably need to focus more on the positioning of your mons to force the opponent into Catch-22 situations.Consider running an odd move choice or two as well, to catch common checks off-guard.
>>59595266I do use bulky follow me indeedee to help orthworm pass subs with trick room to reverse the turn order which sometimes feels broken when i don't play like a paint huffing retard so maybe yeah I do deserve it
ogerpon would save this meta
>>59595270i'm losing to every type of team in the super potato tier of master ball. i don't think it's that deep.honestly i want to run something completely different but nothing is working for me so i've defaulted to this.
>pod, glimmora, dragoniteman my team is outrageously weak to zarchomp but i think i'm just going to accept it and hope it lets politoed ice beam it
>>59595275Run something different. Enjoyment I've found does have an noticeable effect on performance.
>>59595277yeah i've tried a few different teams over the last week and, no matter what i use, this is by far my weakest season since the game launched
>>59595251him
>>59595172Incineroar + X:)
nothing has reduced my confidence in the AI singularity than watching it try to play pokemon
>laddering with my ychu mega houndoom team>Match against a rising voltage team>Send my Ychu but don't mega it so lightning rod walls their stratThat felt kino.
>>59595298Just wait until he cleans up his context
>>59595298If you even ask it a strategy question about pokemon it will just make up a bunch of bs because its too complicated for it.
computers can play chess but not pokemonpokemon players confirmed smarter than chess masters
Rillaboom can't do shit to an orthworm except heal it unless they run superpower over HH, also screws fairies with Heavy Slam, Gambit with Body Press and completely trolls Exca + Ttar
>>59595313how do we introduce powercreep to chess
>>59595322it gets a new rule every thousand years or so, just gotta be patient
>>59595322Bobby Fischer asked the same question and the jews killed him for it
add trick room to chess
>>59595320ohhhh so that's why that guy was running it in VR
>>59595327That's when the pawn turns into a second queen
>>59595328The zard dropoff helps a lot too, you can run it as a wincon against physical teams or as a supportive slow shed tail passer with coverage to beat stuff like sylveon, floette and gambit
>>59595320Orthworm has tiny little hands inside. Did you know that?
WHY DOES TRIPLE AXEL FAIL SO FUCKING MUCHHHHHHHHHHH
>>59595170Think about it anon, if both of you are trying to outpredict the other, then both of you will try to make the optimal choice given the information you have.But what if one of you makes a less-than-optimal choice (AKA retardmode)?
>>59595371>tfw lose to retard mode
How do I make Qwilfish work
>>59595322Pawns can move an additional 2 spaces once per life cycle. The knight can call the rook in front of it. King has a one time move anywhere ability
>>59595374Rocky Helmet, Intimidate, and Flip Turn for status control.
>>59595371Yeah but if they are running a meta team and you are running an antimeta team, you already know what they are gonna do and they dont know what you are going to do.
>>59595377You guys are looking at it all wrong. Power creep means introducing new units. We need to expand the board by two column on each side. On those spots will be the lord piece and the archer piece. The lord can move to any space adjacent to a friendly pawn and the archer can claim any piece within three tiles of it
It appears the way to use absol is focus energy
>>59595380It really doesn't matter because you will end up doing a coinflip every time. Your real choice is between doing the coinflip on your terms or their terms.
I just started and I've made it all the way to the lofty heights of poke ball 1. Why is the receptionist girl so ugly? She looks like she's spent the past 30 years doing meth.
rilla ychu is such an obnoxious lead to deal with
>>59594690Sceptile got fucked by the physical/special split back in Gen 4. They should have swapped those stats back then but they didn’t while still insisting on giving it physical moves. Then its Mega just felt like them pulling ideas out of a hat and going with what they pulled first.
>>59595416How dare you. Tatora is our communal wife who comforts us behind the bleachers after every loss.
>>59595407I'm doing it my terms. They are doing it on like cybertronvgc or whoevers team they copied terms.
>>59595416I have won games purely because she told me dont let my nerves get the better of me before the match.
>>59595248Could be worse. I fell to mid900s before slowly making my way back up. At high 1300s now.
>>59595438I wonder how low it goesPerhaps there's someone out there who's stuck at 500
>>59595359Something something "Non-100% is just 50%" somethingt. Dude who missed HJK back-to-back
>>59595443why are you using hi jump kick
It scares me to know it's possible to have that low of elo. How did you do it so I can avoid it?
I'm having trouble knowing what my own Pokémon kills and what they can survive. Especially for things I've never used before. More often than not I'm just barely missing KOs. Speed tiers seem to be all over the place too.
>STILL playing BSS
>>59595452type pokecalculator on your browser and use it>speed tiersscarf 120+ > Z megas > scarf 100 > 120 (mence, lass, zard, etc) > attack boosting nature 120 (nobody uses this anymore) > everything else
A lot of the time Toxtricity Noivern is enough to pretty much sweep a whole team without even bringing out the mega. They might be a good core for something like Mega Scovillain or Mega Victorybell where the mega doesnt havent to carry that much.
>>59595450Finished all my seasons at mid 1600s as a minimum so far. This time was a combination of trying new things, revisiting some old teams to see how they are in the new meta, having never played in terrain before (last time before Champions was 2016) and dashed with a sprinkle of very, very bad luck. >Combination of Flamethrower and Heat Waves across 4 games scored 6 back-to-back burns on my physical attackers while Scald from my Milotic only got 2 >Seven fucking Rock Slide flinches in a row (4 first game, 3 the next) There are other minor ones like a -2 Draco Meteor from a Megamence criting and killing my mixed Dragapult while it had just beforehand missed an Overheat into their Rilla, but the two green ones were genuinely infuriating.
>>59595452Did you read the guide on the OP?
>>59595458stop running gambling moves if you're gonna complain about losing to gambles, run more accuracy and bulk if that's your issue
>hovering around the same ELO as actual VGC players seem to be at (occasionally checking streams)i can't tell if i'm just extremely lucky or underrating myself
>>59595464Whats your elo? I kinda think i played someone who has been in worlds. They felt very vgc so I searched their name and someone with the same name was in worlds twice. Could be coincidence though it wasnt like a super rare name or anything.
>>59595472hovering around 1800stopped for now until the tiers unlock just to see where it ends up being
i feel like Lucario Z is very underrated people thinking CC from Sneasler actually kills him
>>59595475That's about where I'm at. The game I played I randomly matched against a good bit higher person. Got almost 20 points for that win.
>rock slide flinch costs me the gametale as old as time
>>59594419>Garchomp is fucking washed as shit.just won worlds btw
>>59595479should have used wide guard
>>59595477people fret way too much over getting around the ability when any strong special attack blows it clean up
>>59594419>The last time Garchomp was fucking relevant was fucking 2017it was good all of SV until reg d.
>>59594466Water bug is probably one of the best type combos in the game thats why araquanid actually sees use. Golisopds ability in base form ruins it though.
>>59595464It goes<1600: fucking neck yourself you waste of oxygen1700: Don't brag about it but you have human rights>1800: you aight white boi
unironically i would like rillaboom way more if it's idle animation wasn't so stilted and boringno real drummer in history acts like that, let him get into the groove you cowards
>>59595464vgc players are at champions rank elo. If you get that high its impressive but if its below that then you might have just caught them while they just started climbing this season.
Whats that move that doubles the damage of the opponent boosted their stats? I wonder if you could use that on arch by activating stamina with a faster pokemon.
>>59595298i wonder how well the frontier inhouse models that have supposedly been creating a big stir in the AI community would fare with competitive strategy games. the commercial models are all terrible at every game from chess to pokemon or anything really. Of course dedicated NN AI would destroy any human in any of these games but i wonder if LLM's can get to that level.
>>59595506Not always. Anon may very well be ranked higher than youtubers like pokemd and moxie
>>59595464Sejeun park and James baek are ones you want to look at for a elo read
>>59595523>>59595516top 300 is 1920 and top 1k is 1850. if you are below that you're nothing.
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>>59595527Champion rank a week after launch is always ~2k
Been thinking of how best to use RaichuX since it can overwrite any other terrain the best and I'm thinking Manetric might be the secret sauce.Lightning Rod Manetric can absorb Raichu's Discharge for a +1. It gets Flamethrower which can KO Rilla and Rising Voltage can nuke a lot of things if under elec terrain. It's a bit on an awkward speed, but it's faster than other terrain matchups. Unfortunately, I got rid of my Manetric so I can't really test it.
>>59595531https://silph-scope.com/
Your opponent has mega GolisopodDo you>Attack to cover for Swords Dance>Protect to cover for First Impression
>>59595548most good ones don't carry first impression, it gets cucked too hard by psy terrain, farig, fake out, protect, etc.
>>59595548I don't think the golisopod is gonna carry that, so I'll just fake out if possible or double up on it.
>>59595548I'm going to be real as a golispod spammed stuck at 15-1600 because I'm trash, I don't even run first impressions anymore because psychic terrain spam.
the real pod question is picking 4 of:- leech life (sustain, psychic killer)- iron head (fairy and rock killer)- sucker punch (anti-fish technology, strongest priority)- liquidation (wins pod mirror, good in rain)- protect (scouting, can stick around a turn while partner gets rid of fire shit)- swords dance (makes you scary as fuck but requires protect or you're forced off the field too easily and lose the boost)
>>59594301play ranked, every new tier gives you 5 box slots, capped out at 20 when you reach master ball
>>59595572I've found that after swords dance, I can just rape anyone with leech life because the damage and healing amp from it will keep me out of range from anything that isn't a fish of balance orb wave crashing my ass twice in a row.
>>59595449You can one-tap Archaludon with Mega-Lopunny
>>59595081nasty plot is shit put bulk on him and use calm mind
>>59595463You clearly missed the part where the opponents gambling moves cost me those games more than anything I did. On a side note, what are the odds of the two greentext parts I outlined happening? I suck at maths.
>>59595572Leech life is a guarantee, must have move. The whole point of getting tough claws is leveraging this.The rest really is a matter of preference. When i ran it on day 1, i dropped iron head for protect, liquidation, leech life and first impression.First impression is a meme honestly, but boy is it fun to click
I'll come back to mence later. I cant figure out a playstyle with him that feels natural to me.
>>59595572Surprised more people aren’t considering running U-Turn on it. Not the most powerful move but I’m regularly chunking Kingambit for 35% of its health and other neutral hits for about 40%-ish health while also pivoting.
i sometimes wonder if light screen-only grimm is viable on pod+arch teams, since they're both so physically tanky alreadyjust position correctly to avoid close combats and you can put a different move on him
>sunny day screens sableye next to mega chandelurethey must really hate golisopod
>>59595617I don't think first impressions would be so meme if it wasn't for you likely having a 40% chance to just have indeedee/farig say no. That said I'm almost considering dropping iron head myself but having a fairy answer is so nice when it does come up.My big struggle is I genuinely hate swapping in with him so often if I don't start with him he doesn't come in until way later.>>59595623The set I ran to get me to MB but did eventually drop it was specced to where first impressions+uturn was a guarenteed kill on gambit. I dropped it due to the first impressions issue mentioned above though.
>>59595623u-turn is kinda just worse leech lifethe only exception i think is if you have a team that really likes slow pivoting to cycle intim/fake out/etc., like rilla incin and so on, or you have something that really struggles to switch in safely
i removed fake out from incin for Taunt to beat TR
just beat a mence team with toxtricity lead with perrserker supportthe dragon fears the kitty
i fucking hate intimidate
Pawmot pawease?
It will be harder once the metafags realize psychic noise from tox oneshots sneedler. They will stop trying to fake out my tailwind setter and getting absolutely obliterated.
i dont get why rillaboom is considered good
>>59595646your gambit? milotic? corviknight?
>>59595657As long as the big tubers havent covered your special niche mon yet, you're safe
>252+ SpA Glimmora Sludge Bomb vs. 252 HP / 252 SpD Rillaboom: 168-198 (81.1 - 95.6%) -- guaranteed 2HKOaieeee fug my counter is actually a liability
>>59595659It has grassy glide. That's mainly it. Grassy glide is very stronk
>>59595659It checks a lot of mons and has good support but is quite a fair and honest mon. Same as mence. These guys arent unbeatable, but strong with a good pilot and team and they keep the meta healthy.
>>59595664I feel like wolfe glicke will use tox in his next video now.
>>59595659the previous most overcentralizing mon in format (basc) literally can't do anything but protect if it has grassy glide onlinehaving fake out and wood hammer doing a morbillion damage are also nice bonuses
>>59595659fakeout mon thats bulky with high attack, sets grassy terrain that heals your pokemon, grassy glide for prio stab, many coverage moves like high horsepower. can fit on basically any team
>>59595675on top of countering psy terrain with smart positioning
hold up, final gambit doesn't kill the user if it gets protectedso you can just brute force a trade with anything that can't hit you first? that's so fucked up
>final gambit choice scarf staraptor outspeeds both mega salamence and mega zard y while ohkoing themit aint much but it gets the job done
dead game lol
>>59595766Unite general is that way
>>59595778is unite dead?
>Opponent has gambit/milotic>Can't bring the bara cat since I risk defiant/competitive boostI think this guy is a fraud
>>59595794There's always a counter. Figure it out
>>59595794>everybody brings bara cat so I bring milotic and gambitdoor swings both ways
>>59595794Are there any good Haze mons?
>>59595830milotic lol
Kind of feels bad right now, I think golispod stonks are starting to wear off even though I'm still in love with him. 2/3 teams I've faced in the last 30 matches tonight have been psyspam+2-3 fire mons on their select screen with them basically bring gardevoir, indeedee, armarouge, torkoal every match.They are predictable so I end up winning by just not bringing Golispod but it definitely feels bad.
>>59595848you could run a redirection partner with pod until the new toy syndrome wears off and people don't feel the need to run fire on everything anymorepretty much every thing that carries fire coverage for pod is single target (mystical, thrower, blast, armor cannon) so you can just click follow me on themindeedee is probably the best for this since she can also trick room, but clefable/maushold are options as welli wouldn't do rage powder mons since most of them get ouchies from fire, except maybe volcarona
>>59595854I messed around with indeedee for ~10 matches I wasn't super happy with it if I'm to be honest as a stopper to fake out on mence teams as largely I felt I had to lead and politoed to make sure to get the t1 mence kill. Also being overall frailer than the giraffe+sinistcha. Like the problem is in this meta it just feels so dangerous to lead him and I've been partial to liking setup but there kind of isn't time it feels like to pull it off.
>>59595869if TR feels too slow (i kinda agree, i run no TR pod) then i'd def go clefmoonblast won't insta kill mence but it will at least make it scared enough to think twice about shooting flamethrower into a potential pod protect
>>59595874as for fake out, you'll need protect on both to avoid that but suppose that's the cost of doing business
How did absol z outspeed my unburden sneasler? He only used shadow claw. He didnt have tailwind active anymore.
>My Ychu tanks a close combat from AbZol Wow AbZol is weak my Ychu is max hp but still. If it's whole gimmick is being a super glass cannon you gotta one shot Ychu with close combat. Ychu definitely would have one shot it with focus blast if it didnt just die to overdrive anyway.
>>59595879I wish i had the storage to always record my matches because that was the biggest bullshit i've ever seen.It was just goodra and absol z on his field.His tailwind from volcarona and torkoal literally ran out by turn 4 where i cleanly knocked out his torkoal (volca went down first) after goodra went for protect.I had dee and sneedler with unburden boost. Sneed was adamant with max speed sp.His shadow claw outspeeding me literally cost me the match.This was the weirdest shit ever.
>>59595890I know its ghost time but I mean as a glass cannon pokemon doing non stab
Double disguise SD mimikyu with orthworm is a gimmick im liking lately
>>59595874I'm actually not too scared of mence desu, my current team is pick related and that politoed ohkos anything but bulky mence but that's nonexistent. The Weavile also ohkos but I definitely made an oversight with that in that it doesn't if I get an intimidate drop it won't.
>>59595890AbZol being a straight upgrade of regular MAbsol and still being underwhelming is sad. At least Zomp and Zucario are at least completely different niches from their old megas, and perfectly usable.
>>59595879Did you switch sneasler out at any time after its unburden activated? Speaking of odd outspeeds I think I ran into either a jolly or scarf incineroar earlier
>>59595899NTA but i didn't even know unbudren goes away on switch, it was probably that
>>59595897Does the weavile need focus sash? Could give it white herb for the intimidate
>>59595899No. Dee and sneed stayed on field. I was literally dominating that match till magically his abzol outsped me. I had to double check after the match if i forgot to change the ability but it was clearly unburden (i wouldnt have won a speed tie with another sneedler in the previous match). Weirdest shit ever. Im not sure if it's one of those rare bugs from Z forms or the guy found a working cheat.
>>59595897>life orb toed rain pod teamwtf are you literally meyeah i love that frog, it just deletes everything, everyone underestimates ityeah i can see why you don't care about mence now lol you got 3 checks on it in here, arguably 4 if arch if it lives a draco somehow
>>59595905It does, mostly because it's also really useful for psyspam matchup surprisingly (dazzling one shots weavile). So this was a call to make him slightly worse (but still good) in the mence matchup because I can always fall back on politoed, meanwhile the psyspam matchup is not great without weavile.
this dude just fake out'd my support perrserker twice in a row. for what purpose
>>59595908Genuinely secret mvp of the team, maybe more than golispod. Like Golispod can just win a 1v3. But the frog regularly steals games in this meta.
Quick guard and upper hand should be higher priority than fake out. Then again who would care when the deedees are here
>ice spinner mega starmie
>>59595950>mega starmiei havent thought of this guy in months now. Amazing how far he dropped from the public consciousness. Even mega clefable and chimeco has its fans, i have never seen starmie outside of the initial Reg-A month
>>59595973amazing how a 100 base atk huge power water type has basically no viable niche just because of le monke and toilet samurai
>>59595979he wasnt used last regulation
>some gay fag running stockpile toxapex hope you enjoyed the Draw you obese freak
>>59595979it really is over for starmie isnt it?Im going through the roster and water just have so many bangers even on the lower end of usages: rotom-wash, gyarados, greninja, azu, palafin, pex.im not even gonna compare it to other psychic mons because they dont actually die to the toilet, unlike starmie, and no expanding force lol
>>59595298Nothing has reduced my faith in humanity more than you forgetting an entire word in this sentence and nobody even batting an eye
why is no one using whimsicott anymore
Is it just me or does Salamence not hit as hard as I would expect it to?
I just got mewtwo from wondertrade. Which is great cuz i dont have enough mewtwo in Go to spare. Whenever Mewtwo becomes legal my body is ready
>>59596026mence teams don't need it for tailwind
>>59596026yeah i was wondering tha too.tailwind stocks down the drain i assume with trick room in almost every game.also prankster encore now doesnt work under psychic terrain.overriding terrain would necessitate running pincurchin or rillaboom on your own, and i think rilla itself already deals with indeedee
>>59596027Double edge is its hardest hitting move. Hyper voice on mence is underwhelming even with Spatk nature so im thinking of never running it again. I havent really figured him out with my team so he's taking a backseat. It really is just a skill issue on my part
>>59596026i had a guy use grassy terrain whims and he just wasted time
>>59596034It's weird. 120 special attack doesn't seem impressive when everything else is a min maxed monster with 150+ in their main attacking stat with a boosting ability. Max attack double edge always just leaves things shy of a kill. Max special draco meteor if not a dragon would usually only do a little over half. Hyper voice barely chips. And Salamence just seems so frail. I got one shot by a Whimsicott moonblast somehow. It didn't have a life orb.
you guys oughta learn that chip damage is important in this fatfuck meta can't just zard y heat wave and win
>>59596053Even then it feels underwhelming. Flying and dragon as attacking types you hit only neutral a lot of the time. You can't really afford that many coverage moves if any. I don't get the appeal.
>>59596079Its just that people are building teams that can counter mence. And i think the lack of amoonguss in the meta means hyper voice isnt really as valuable.
chomp slander at an all time high
Chomp will return in Regulation M-D
>currently raining>opponent switches in mega charizard, I switch in politoed on the same turn >charizard's drought activates>politoed's drizzle doesn't activate and turn it back to rainso I guess you can't set weather on switch in if you enter while it's already set even if it gets removed by something faster than you? that's really not how I thought it was supposed to work
>>59596138okay apparently it's actually because the thing I switched into toed was faster than the thing the opponent switched into charizard I still feel like it's kind of stupid it works differently on turn 1 than it does when you switch
They didn't want me to do it but too much tilting made me pull out my follow me indeedee f + trick room simple beam audino + stockpile toxapex + psych up mega slowbro team >:)
feel like replacing harc with volcarona yes or no
>>59595973Used it to climb up to low master ball rank,with Incineroar and Whimsicott,it was pretty good but now with the roach and the monkey,it's gonna be a lot harder to useOverall,a good mon in a bad meta,i played it adamant with liquidation,ice spinner,zen headbutt and flip turn
>>59595659>he can overwrite psychic terrain just by switching in>grassy glide is priority and almost 1 shots most water types>access to fake out>125 base attack + 120 power Wood HammerBut that's basically it, really.
>>59593146Had a retarded idea for a team that utilizes all four weather conditions
>>59596178I'm thinking Mega Froslass, Torkoal, Pelipper, Tyranitar, Castform and a Trick Room setter
>>59596185Just use Greninja as your weather ball avatar
>>59596188I'm using a Castform because it's funny
>>59596190Would be neat if they gave that thing an evo in WeeeeWaàaaa
wiwa will have weather 2 like the primals
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>>59596224>page 7Too early
