Fake out bros editionPokémon Champions is a free to play online battle simulator available on Switch and mobile. It features ranked, casual and private battles for both singles and doubles, and will be used for VGC tournaments in 2026.>NewsReg MC is now live. Baltimore Regionals September 18-20th>Resources and useful linksCommunity Tournaments usage data: https://pikalytics.com/Ladder usage data: https://pokechamdb.com/enDamage Calculatorhttps://nerd-of-now.github.io/NCP-VGC-Damage-Calculator/New Player Guide(NEW PEOPLE READ THIS):https://rentry.org/pcg-guide (now taking suggestions and feedback)Quick FAQ>Do I need my own Pokémon to play?No, the game features a recruitment system, but transferring from Home is recommended to save time and resources.>What makes the game so much more accessible than before?All aspects of a Pokémon are customizable with VP, a currency earned simply by playing the game. IVs are also removed.Ask in the thread if you want any specific Pokémon, and someone will respond.>Is there single player content?No.>Do I need a Nintendo Online subscription?No.>What's the starter pack?US$6.99 one time purchase for 50 training tickets (fully train for free), 30 Teammate Tickets (recruit Pokemon without using VP), 50 extra box space and the LGPE trainer music. Only available on Switch for now.>Is anything locked behind a paywall?So far everything gameplay relevant is also purchasable with VP. Only E-Floette require ZA transfer.>/pcg/ OP pastebin (use this if making new thread): https://pastebin.com/d2FJZdPhPrevious >>59593146
first for free mythicals
>>59596222I’m using charizard y, noticing a lot of zard disrespect. Lots of people I’m playing have bad zard matchups, or that have one at all. It’s free elo.
>>59596228Doesn't it just die to Mence?
Had my first draw, not only do the games take way longer with stall but there's a chance even if you are more likely to win that the game will go "lol nope you can't play stall, you must conform and play HO if you want points" invalidating a completely fair and legitimate playstyle, it's so stupid
two +6 retards fighting
Pawmot please?
>>59596252No?Bulky Zard sets from MA and MB live double edge and Hyper Voice ain't shit.
>>59596138your pokemon on the field that switched out was faster than the pokemon the opponent did so charizard entered the field later, unless your toad was somehow faster than zardfield speed>switch-in speed>>59595581I might have to start running that on my lop team, it's still not a guaranteed OHKO on gambit or arch as jolly but I think it's worth the gamble
that Xchu-espathra-arch team is some shit pulled straight from the devil's ass
>>59595581are there other pokemon that can do this that aren't dogshit furry digimon like lopunny is?
>>59596280Just a sec
Rate my team :DWhat would you change?
>>59596310special attackers with fighting coverage like kommo-o and raichuy, megalop is the only physical attacker that can onetap archaludon
>>59596252nope. 32+ Atk Aerilate Mega Salamence Double-Edge vs. 20 HP / 32 Def Mega Charizard Y: 135-160 (78 - 92.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKOand zard teams have speed control + zard checks now
>>59596321StarChu fucks you really hard but that's about it, really clever checks for the new meta
>>59596333Even if you didn't invest 20hp/32def, the standard 14hp/28def still does the job.
>>59596309This only works now because of fewer chompers being run.
>>59596357the era of the splashable chomp and him being le best in the format is over, he does literally nothing now
>>59596357and electric sneed
>>59596360scarf chomp is still good
Finally made it back to mid 1600s from 900s with pic. Wanted to use Dragonite with Ice Spinner for all the terrain bullshittery going on and got Kommo-O to +100 wins ages ago, but the amount of retards using sound-based moves and its own obscene damage with Life Orb is too good to pass up. Not really feeling Pelipper anymore though. Too many matches where bringing it would enable opposing Archaludon and/or is too slow to set-up Tailwind when needed. Anyone tried a snow setter with Aurora Veil on a Goli team for damage mitigation?
>>59596222https://youtu.be/wWVHcnElio8?si=hfdWDbrmv_qlHRK0top japan players recap their worlds trip, pretty funny watch
>>59596367if you want damage mitigation for goli you might want to use grimmsnarl, prankster double screens + parting shot and fake out, not as good now that psychic terrain is everywhere but you do have your own rillaboom for that
i run choice scarf pelipper it is not great
>>59596375its only good an sniping mence on lead, useless in every other matchup
>>59596340Yeah I need something that deals with raichu
>>59596371With the amount of special attackers running around I’m wondering if I can get away with just Light Screen, Parting Shot, Spirit Break and Fake Out. Most of the team had good to great physical bulk. The only notable problem is Psychic Terrain is still a massive bitch to deal with which is why a Snow Warning mon was being considered.
>>59596321>Mega HoundoomI genuinely don’t think I ever saw thag outside a few niche cases in 2014. How has it been performing and what EVs are being run?
>>59596384I mean golisopod only really needs light screen so that set serms quite good, how does snow help against psyspam though?
>>59596391Blizzard will still deal great damage against those teams and, if I went with A Ninetails, I could do something like Freeze Dry as another way of dealing with Basulegion (that fish isn’t going anywhere anytime soon) and then Moonblast for decent to good damage single target damage into neutral targets.
>>59596399Ninetales even deal that much damage, blizzard will do like 30-40% at most to garde and hatterene and it just gets fucking nuked by arma, what you need for psyspam is an armarouge answer so your golisopod can kill the rest of them with leech life, you already have a fish check and can also counter their terrain with... that same fish check, ninetales adds nothing to the team other than a fire weakness, something your team is already extremely weak against
>>59596399>Blizzard will still deal great damage against those teamspsyspam teams are all specially defensive and you're going to hit them with special attacks?
>indeedee lives helping hand hyper voice from mega mence>at 1 HP>sets up trick room for me>I actually win (have to wait for the game to post before i jinx it)Oh he malding alright, i can tell he is malding
>>59596317I got him. Thanks anon!
ladder's gone so far down the anti meta hole swampert rain circled back to being good again
camerupt's so fucking good now
>>59596390Mega Houndoom has just now found a niche because it is immune to psyspam and can one shot golisopod with fire and sweep pyschic types with dark pulse.
>>59596444doesn't it just get gibbed by sneedler though? all psy teams run it
>>59596452I mean sure but Sneedler can kill or heavily damage most pokemon. Just kill the sneedler first.
>>59596380Doesnt Toxtricity resist all Raichus attacks and one shot it with sludge bomb?
The return of seeds has made Sneasler unbearable. I wouldn't be surprised at all if many sets won't bother with fake out at all and just runs stabs and coverage due to psychic terrain or Farig.
>>59596464It seems like just attacking has more value this meta than stalling with fakeout. Its a hyper offense meta. Which is actually based.
>>59596479or it would be if Sneasler wasn't always first to move.MA and MB were hyper offense metas too, Mence balance is kind of like the Zard Pex slop where the goal is to try to prevent you from playing.
>>59596482Just protect your sneasler bait and hit it with a pyschic attack. If it's using seed instead of sash then its guaranteed to get one shot.
Michael der beste (THE BEST) just uploaded
just fell down 1000 pts
Finally made it to 2000 elo and now just waiting for the ladder reset so I can get the champion title. It's kind of a fucking pain that you have to win one more game to give the pokemon on your team the title as well though.
>>59596563post team
>>59596547Thank you for the translation, I'd been meaning to ask what that meant in English.
all these yaichus on ladder just fold to scarf garchomp.
>>59596565Its singles and I'm using the banette gimmick with Pawmot where the new buff to Revival Blessing revives a mega back as well. Basically you can force two mons to destiny bond dead themselves with banette for the price of one mega. If you know how to play it right. It's kind of like singles perish song?
>>59596570they also fold to zardy with speed control (90% of zardy teams) their zardy matchup is harc, and if that faints they get swept by it
people are learning how to play mence now and i dont like it
Why does Heat Wave have the same burn chance as Flamethrower?
What do you think of Gholdengo over Kingambit?https://pokepast.es/b8afd3d231aea3dbI can explain the ev calcs if anyone wants.
>>59596635I almost never get it from heat wave, especially when I really want it.
>>59596639The mamoswine should just be a bax imo
Ah this will be easy I know he's not going to press wide guard for the fourth time
>lost to abzol beat up
>>59596664Good ol' wide guard. Never fails!
>>59596657In a balance/Intimidate meta?
Just hit m-4. Was very surprised by the lack of salamence I saw while climbing. I was led to believe that he was gonna be the big meta mon, but I only saw a few teams running him.
Found my first ever shiny! And on a pokemon I like too! Unfortunately it seems that the shiny coloration for Ceruledge is 99% the same as base colors. Kind of disappointing.
>>59596704The only difference in the shiny that I noticed is cerulddge gets armarouges eye colors and vice versa
last respects
Hear me out: Reg ME should be a dual mega format.
>>59596741should have been grass fire
whimsicott and archaludon need to be removed from the game
>>59596222cute couples date :3. where's the water bear?
>>59596816He's in vacation from the throuple, they got a weird thing going on with that fish tho, idk if I'm comfortable with it
>build anti-meta team>game stops giving me opponents with meta teams
>rating: 1370
>>59596856>spend an hour or so brainstorming something fun/neat to run against the most used pokemon of the format>throws me against timmy and his shitmon team with exact type coverage i could never seen coming in a thousand years
some of you really need to practice on showdown
>showdown
Camerupt has missed so many fucking crucial heat waves I'm considering switching it to eruption even if it's way worseit also only misses the fucking pokemon it needs to KO to win the match but not the ones next to them like a stupid nigger (he's shiny)
Scarf Ttar still catches me off guard and so does Jolly Basc. Most of my team is clocked to Adamant Basc.
>>59596966If you can keep Camerupt healthy then Eruption is the play. Much better if you have sun.
lost an easy win to a 3 turn long freeze award
>>59596970Eruption is actually sub optimal on camel. it does the same amount as sheer force boosted heat wave at 82%, anything less and worse damage. the thing camel has over torkoal is that it doesnt need to be at full health to maximise damage, thus easier to postion
>>59596983You can tell I spent a lot of time looking at Mega Camel's ability. Ignore me.
>>59596986it all good anon
>>59596978return the mon to the ranch, its defective
>>59596993Getting the warranty is a 5VP add on that only 15% of ranch renters opt into, anon probably doesn't have it.
team...
>>59597007-1, low base attack, low base power, 0.5x damagewet noodle, but you have to try.
Why is he like thishttps://m.youtube.com/post/Ugkx2Dms9_IwkLdEcxXiN96XxKZuAubFX34y
>>59597012clean up your links pls.
>>59597007it's really easy to forget mence is as physically bulky as a slowbro
every talonflame player:>protect turn 1>tailwind turn 2 and then die
this EOMM shit is really fucking pissing me off, any time I try something new I get matched up against the exact thing that counters it and then never see it again
>>59597007was this staged or is it just a bug with the hp bar displayeven max bulk mence with a +def nature still takes over 1% from a min attack primarina aqua jet at -1
My team... is complete
>>59596983Yea but erupt comes out of the volcano and thats bitchin
>>59597031I dont see an alpha mark
It took a while and I was still messing with my team (never used the bridge until now) but I finally made it to masterball in singles. Now to start on doubles.
>>59597028you forgot burn
>>59597035I like the smol ghoul. I have a mini incin cause I think its funny
>>59597037so i did, so i didthat solves it
>indeedee trick room shitter gets his TR setter killed turn 1 and idle rage quits by walking away from his switch or phone It's always them. Nothing stopped me from learning Pokémon harder than being a trick room shitter in the past. Never learned speed tiers (who cares about speed i just set tr and mash dat torkoal eruption), fake out planning (who cares about fake out i just keep the giraffe or psy terrain in), double ups or protect metas (who cares about protecting i got 4 turns to win so ima just mash dat spread move) or damage breakpoints because I didnt have to worry about stat allocation at all, just max beef and damage. I think trick room fags are just scared of taking the training wheels off
On Ghost-types (e.g. Golurk) do you prefer a permanent item or a consumable (White Herb, berry) to go itemless afterward?
>>59597047I killed some guys trick room whimsicott turn one and he just froze lol
>>59597055you're eating that knock off whether you like it or not
>>59597047To be fair, hard TR is pretty much a victory if it goes off. People use these teams because it works.
psy terrain teams carrying the funny fish of balance is really annoying you basically are punished for killing the rest of the team too fast, cause if it's still up by the time it comes out you're toast (unless you have rilla and preserved it)
>>59597062Well sure, but it's easier to eat 65 power than 97.5 power. I'm just interested if the benefits of reducing Knock Off and avoiding Poltergeist are considered when people are choosing items.
>>59597047ackshually my tr team has secondary speed control in the form of fake out spam
>>59597099neither's common enough to worry about right now. only relevant knock offer right now is ttar and maybe weavile and poltergeisters are basically nonexistent
way too many people throwing games running fire blast on dite/mence instead of just taking the 2hko with flamethrower
How important is it to get your lead pokemon correct
>>59597127depends on your team bulky pivot spam? minimal impactfrail hyper offense? hope you guessed right
>>59597126I still think the Pokémon Damage Calculator that Showdown operates should include accuracy in it's damage calcs.You might see more people reliability over power.
Round M-Gardevoir is so fun
>>59596222If they can nerf Archaludon, they can nerf Incineroar
>built a rain team just for M golisopod>keep winning just because people can't out my Archaludon behind screens snarl spamming
>opponent sent out indeedee and a-persian>tries to fake out with terrain up>kill both of them>sends out golisopod and sneasler>tries to first impressionI forfeited out of embarrassment
>>59597159arch is basically a free second mega, there's a reason teams are built around it it's just a game of get rid of the sneasler/lucario/earth power user before he gets going
why the fuck does the stupid bridge get Stamina of all things anywayit was supposed to be my horse's thing...
>okay I finally put swords dance on my golisopod, I should win the pod mirror now>opponent golisopod used bulk up!lol ok you got me
is speed arch more popular now or somethingmine has a dozen or so points in speed for tailwind calcs but it's still slower than a bunch of my opponents archesI assumed the vast majority were HP SpDef or HP SpAtk
>>59597224it's a stapler it kept getting knocked off a shelf at game freak
What was the next step of his master plan?
Name me a pokemon to use all the way to masterball. I need a theme to build my team around for this run.
>>59597331this is only possible with 0 atk neutral nature sneasler, even assuming rilla is 32hp 32defwtf did they mean by this
>>59597332mega beedrill
will anyone call my bluff if i run sap farig
>>59597332wigglytuff
lost to a flinch award
>>59597346Misty Terrain should block flinches too.
>>59597339Rillas just use knock off on you
>>59596741How much dazzling gleam do?
>>59597349havent seen anyone do that yet they u-turn every time
>>59597349wtf move is rilla dropping for knock off, horsepower?
>guy sets up TR>all his pokemon are faster than minefor what purpose
>>59597357this shit always makes me laugh
>>59597357Maybe he thought you would TR first and fucked himself over kek
>>59597337I got no idea, but he was also intimidated once by my incineroar, so I actually helped him survive that dire claw. He got fire blitzed under rain anyways and survived with 4% hp which he decided to trade for a kill on the pelipper I switched in and then nuked the sneeder with liquidation. He also used TR earlier on armarouge, giving me a free win with Golisopod just nuking every single one of his mons.
>>59597359Has that ever actually happened to anyone? Predicting a TR that never comes and handing it out to the opponent for free?
>>59597357indeedee garde teams will do this with a giant fucking metal bug standing right in front of them
5 win streak with Mence Sand. I love this stupid dragon.
'tron posted bax
Before I start doubles, is it filled with grassy glide and psy spam?
>>59597407yes but also not at all
>Fighting hard trick room>I lead Hameroutt and bara cat, he leads Slowking-g and Indeedee.>King sets trick room, I kill indeedee(no follow me)>Sends out Blaziken.>Think "maybe he's gonna undo trick room.">Slowking sludge bombs routt instead and dies>Routt kills blaziken and they my opponent forfeits.Wat
CAMERUPTTTTTTT STOP FUCKING MISSING THE HEAT WAVEEEEES
golisopod very noticably suffers from the same problem i experienced with froslass, where it's really awkward to ever try and switch it in unless it's already mega'd
>>59597430Probably using that weird blaziken TR team in the recent tourney but without knowing how it works.
>>59597446If it aint 100% it's 50%.
>>59597355Knock off, u-turn or high horsepower, grassy glide, protect. Its a flexible mon
i'm not playing these fucking speed games anymore i'm loading up quick draw quick claw slowbro with all the coverage
How do I stop doing First Impression in Psychic Terrain? I'm genuinely retarded making this same mistake over and over.
>>59597498Don't play First Impression on megapod, it's bad
>>59597498Visual cues. And play with the mon to get used to it and understand its weaknesses
>quit coping and returned all of the things with cool titles and Pokeballs I will never useGoodbye Snorlax the Kind-Hearted and Sandaconda the Anxious...
concerning amount of people who think they can tank a neutral glaive rush
>>59597370yeah ever since I started running a TR set with snow-mediumish pokemon I've occasionally thrown out the counter TR read. Makes you feel like a genius when it works and a total retard when it doesn't.
>lead pawmot and staraptor up against primarina and sinistcha>primarina protects, nearly kill the matcha with dual wingbeat, it gets trick room up>pawmot goes down, staraptor survives with a burn>out comes my giraffe>the sinistcha goes "oh fuck" and tries to undo trick room, giving me the chance to kill it with bird>as im whittling down the seal im wondering why until i see absol come out and mega into absol-z>bird dies as i kill the seal to let golisopod come out>final pokemon they have is... talonflame>fuck>they double protect and trick room ends, it looks bad>decide to delay my mega to kill the talonflame with liquidation and hope they dont kill me>both of them double up into giraffe fearing another trick room, and i kill their bird>shiny golisopod is completely flexing on this absol-z, knowing there is nothing it can do with all its power to end its life>mega evolve and winI wish I could have saved that battle, it was my Master Ball rank up too.
slotting in incin would solve a lot of problems for mebut i reallllyyyyy dont want to...
>pincurchin used accupressure on partner>goes through protect >evasiveness sharply roseermmm what do i do against this
>>59596741>have negative expectations for pokemon>it's spot on>have positive expectations for pokemon >it's not even close to what you wanted or is the complete oppositeI hate this franchise. Archaludon and Rillaboom do not deserve to be good in VGC especially since Meganium getting a mega evolution was just a bullshit moment so that Game Freak could intentionally let people down.And fuck them for treating Aurorus and Tyrantrum like shit.
>>59597551mega meganium isnt even that bad. issue is we went from charizard spam to mence spam, both fo which fuck meganium hard
>tbr dismissing audio as FSurely it's at least D off Simple Beam alone, overqwil gave it a bad rep but there's other strats you can do with it like +4 Swords Dances and making Snorlax/Toxapex unkillable with Stockpile, also has a fantastic support movepool, eject button indeedee f has follow me so it can get easy TR offs while you pivot into the slow mon you want to boost and use Psych Up with mega slowbro later. The WC wouldn't have even qualified without audino cheese strats
>>59597406Gonna be a lot of bax today
>>59597574Also Healer comes in clutch sometimes and you can safely bring in megabro by using Healing Wish after your stockpile mon reaches +4 in trick room and speed the game up with Body Press and Stored Power with Slack Off for recovery
Is there still a use case for ceruledge as a flash fire 'mon or has expanding force driven armarouge's stonks way too high?
>>59597159What's your team?
>>59597581the premier fire mons are harcanine and incin so lol
>>59597406its a good video, lots of synergy for bax.if only there is a way to manually trigger thermal exchange
>just started playing a couple days ago>used all of the quick tickets you start with >didn't get gambit, basc, or rilla>had to actually play the game to get the free rilla>use some VPs and get a female bascI'm about ready to quit this game already because of this retarded gacha system, and I'm too lazy to actually put my scarlet cart in my switch to get a basc-m. thanks for reading my blog
>>59597613bro your Home?your element tickets?
>>59597604i want pay for running 4 of those mons already on a bax team im gonna get called a fraud now
>>59597596yeah I guess I'm boned either way. I miss charizard heat wave spam.
>just had a guy use sneed's coaching on his mega bird that just failed to kill my golisopod in two close combats>he instantly forfeited once he saw the atk/def down>>59597498First impression on 'pod is shitter bait, be a chud and run SD with leech life, and a toolkit to rape whatever is most common in your matches.
>>59597613In a pinch you can sue basc f just fine
female basc is actually surprisingly scary in rain
how much speed do people invest in gholdengo, my politoed just outsped one
waiting for the obnoxious relicanth evo in weewoo
>>59597650max usually
>>59597650They should give Politoed yawn. Fuck it, they should give Politoed fake out.
>>59597660it should also learn soakno reason a pelican can but a fucking frog can't
coaching pawmot onto mega golisopod is really funny
I know it's done to death but I've been wanting to use indeedee and armarouge since they were announced for the new reg. What should I watch out for when using them?
>>59597683Incineroar
>>59597650the new tron video is max timid to outspeed opposing gholdengo and catch basc out
>>59597688INCELROAAAAAR
>2% milotic ready to take infestation damage vs Toxapex at more than half>"hurr you get draw and no VP cause you don't use the globohomo hyper offense strategy"Fucking bullshit
hmmm yes feed my hatterene and lopunny more baxcaliburs thank you for the treat aaron zheng
Any good teams with either Hatterene or Mega Gardevoir? I don't know how to build psyspam, and I couldn't figure out how to build the Froslass Pawmot team either.
Does anyone have a grapploct they don't particularly need? One with matching balltism? I'm not even really trying to beg, I can trade you one of my ballitsm mons in return
>>59597730share team? im already using hatterene but never used lopunny before
>previous regulation Garchomp and Basculegion mirror duels>always win the speed ties>Salamence mirror duels>always lose the speed tieRNG giveth RNG taketh I guess
>>59597726Based HO dabbing on toxapussies
has anyone tried psych up politoed with arch. im on an 8 game win streak with it
>>59597613Honestly? If you can’t have fun without metaslaving, good riddance
>>59597745Max speed? I honestly have no idea what people do with Mence EVs, so I can never tell if my Lass outspeeds or if I'm just winning speed ties
>>5959775380% of them are +speed nature, and basically every single one runs +32 speed
>raichu+farig lead, make it look like they don't want trick room>don't mega raichu, just let it die while farig trick rooms>free switch into torkallol what a bastard
>>59597339Skill swap to bass or swamp?
>>59597742sure https://pokepast.es/8b05579e5a865090Lopunny is either a finisher or a lead on matchups where you don't bring in Camerupt, mostly a finisher since you usually lead Farig + Rilla because nobody can stop it, U-turn into your sweeper and then go wild, thunderbolt is necessary to keep pelippers in check and rilla protects the camel from basc, toad, milo and such while also offering extra speed control with fake out in case farig goes down (this is why I run grassy instead of psychic terrain)hatt is what you bring for your lop matchups, expanding force is there to take advantage of opposing psy and mystical fire is necessary, trick room could be changed for something else but it's been really useful to set it back up/surprise/double leadlop uses hi jump kick to have a higher chance to ohko arch and chople bulkgambit, but it can run close combat just fine, gambit is there as a finisher for camel matchups while at the same time taking advantage of tr. I could switch it out for the fish to have a better matchup into zard (only answer is camel's ap) and a slightly better finisher, but there's too many rillas around for that desuit still needs some improvement but it's been working really well for me, especially with cts since nobody expects non psyspam tr nowadays
Any Rillaboom preasu?
>>59597781just a sec
>>59597765thanks anon ill def use close combat instead of high jump miss lmao but sometimes i guess it comes down to rng if you hit your 90 acc moves or not
>>59597788Man I’ve been using Hamurott this reg and so far he’s actually come in clutch, but damn the two games I’ve lost on the spot to a Ceaseless Edge miss still hurt bad. Do people just live off of Sucker Punch on him? I can’t bring myself to drop it or he’s useless against Psyspam which is his main role on my team
i hate sash harcanine so much
>>59597805Every dog has his day
>>59597726stall trannies SEETHING over honest "click rockslide" players.
>>59597801anons here say they run night slash instead of its signature
>get win streak>suddenly faced against teams that specifically counter mine hmmm
>>59597811Why the FUCK did I never think of this
>want a shiny Cofagrigus for my champions team>dont have ZA
What's the best way to use Grapploct? I finally had one show up.
>>59597834breed in SWSH
>>59597837arent they only galarian cofa though?
>>59597841you get traded unovian one there
>>59597834I called that thing co fag griggus for so long
Why yes I do have steel beam on gholdengo how did u know my pp was so big
>i'm mb2 oh coolnow i'm scared to play and lose it
>>59597830>buy battle pass>suddenly get a 10+ winstreakhmmm
why are there a billion ways to fuck physical attackers but theres no ways to counter special attackers?
Champions in game ladder is only Psyspam and Rain and it’s obnoxious.
>>59597872So run dark and fire
>>59597871light screen, spirit break, snarl, parting shot, mystical fire, calm mind, amnesia
>>59597871Cause generally speaking physical attacking moves are better and more well distributed.
Toxapex is a reddit repellent
>>59597871Light screen really just kwabs them all
Anyone else just not caring about rank and just experimenting with what works and doesn't work in this reg with the new pokemon and item options?
guy wins with 2 rock slide flinches and a crit and thinks he's the good guy
>>59597916Not my fault I have the mandate of heaven.
>>59597916>wow imagine if the roles were reversed!Winning and losing. All that matters.
Theoretically, in EST, what's the best timeframe to try and grind to Champion Tier? My line of thinking is that in the evening (8PM-12AM ish) is when all the Japanese players are around and gives me harder opponents, but during the day if I have a day off on a weekday, I'll have an easier batch of opponents to grind past. Debating if I should try and push to Champion tier over the next few days nonstop or wait until Friday when I can focus on it during the daylight hours, not sure if this is retarded or not if my rank falls fast (currently 1700 elo, top 15000)
>giraffe gets hit by a zap cannon>paralyzed twice in a row with new 10% para chance>STILL manages to get trick room up on third turnis farigiraf the true king of vgc?
how many times are basc players going to have to stay in on absol z and die before they realize it's faster than scarf?
>>59597938>implying basculegion players have enough sapience to learn
>>59597949Everytime wave crash inshots an enemy indeedee I feel my iq lower in real time.
Basedjak basculegion plsss
Indeedee f is a Godsend for cheese strats
So are megas going to be in champions permanently? Will Z moves, gigamax, and tera come someday too?
>>59597974lets fucking hope not
>>59597974the bigger question is if they have the balls to have a regulation where all these mechanics fight each other
Can you not derank within a divison? I've lost at greatball 2 no wins three times and didn't drop to greatball 3
>>59597927>Japanese players>better at doubleslol
>>59598030Not at that rank lil bro
>>59598030No I think you can only derank from ultra ball 1 to ultra ball 2. The rest are locked in to keep churning out more ultra ball and master ball players into the machine.
>>59597836You dont
>>59598038>>59598041Are like half the players in masterball then? At least this gets rid of any ranked anxiety I had
Finally managed it with my favorite pokemon. Now I can rest a bit with it but honestly I feel like somehow the terrain war shit actually improved the game rather than otherwise, against my expectations. Even if people are bringing a lot of samey shit since they all want to use the broken bug and salami mencia.
>>59598048nice blacked out sneasler, incineroar, rillaboom, and salamence
>>59598045I assume most players get into master ball eventually yes. The system is made to funnel you to it. From having those stopgaps to making streaks award more progress if you get hot to making negative streaks not a thing to making it so that when you rank up in PB/GB/UB you get a little extra to start with. Its all made to funnel you forward.But what determines your starting MB rank is likely your record but also its usually never higher than MB3 at least. For instance I just started this season basically at MB3 since I left UB1 at 1700s-ish. Basically if you're a shitter you're gonna start MB at shitter rank so its kind of balanced.
>>59598054its singles but I will tell you there is one mon there you would never expect
Guys, question. If I kill a Pokémon with Rocky helmet and I die from it. Shouldn't i just lose? Because I did and gave me the win. It was always like this?
>>59597786Thanks, anon.
>>59598059No, because thats recoil basically and the mon opposite you dies first. Its the same case if you used a recoil move and died from it.Whereas if you used explosion or destiny bond YOU would die first so thats why you lose in those cases.
what is the maintenance for
>>59598085mega rayquaza shadow drop
>>59598085They're planting mustard gas into Archaludon player's devices.
>>59598085every umbreon player will have snakes dropped into their pants
>>59598085Adding Tatora fan service
>>59598085I tripped over the cable mb
All that hype around it for having huger power just to be a fucking disappointment
Home premium newbie here. What should i stock up on daily? Just genned eternal floettes? And what's a safe mon to trade that with - ursaluna bm? Im looking to get good stuff without the obvious genned OT.
>>59598141Unfortunately the bug just fucking annihilates it now and Salamence outspeeds so its kind of ass.Plus it can't even reliably kill Lucario due to aura guard.
>>59597927In my experience the time with the least amount of Asian players is after 6 AM PST. You usually get European players off work. Of course the problem is being at work.
>>59598141Maybe it wouldn't be such a shitmon if it stayed as a special attacker
>>59598141Desperately needs a Z mega for special attack
>>59598146ENTER
>>59598141It's a funny meme which is more than you can say for half of megas which are unusable forgettable shit
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>>59598141Shame that skill swapping rilla is pointless cause grass is resisted by half the dex
>>59598093All that for three people?
im having fun
Release Walrein already... I wanna Ice Body.(I sure wish they did Alola style buffs 10-40 BST for the shitmons in the roster.)
>>59598254I've seen people say Walrein is actually worse post snow because it loses hail's chip damage but it already couldn't endlessly stall after Gen 6 anyways. Snow made Vanilluxe better.
Have you nicknamed your mons in support of Ed Sheeran and our lord and savior Bibi Netanyahu yet? Heard it gives you guaranteed rng rolls in your favor
incins sure do like activating thermal exchange
The zard is coming back and I don't like it
>>59598149starmie if he shuma gorath
>>59598244You either nickname all of your teammates or you name none of them
>>59598244made for goldingus
i don't understand why gardevoir is almost always run with trick room teams when it's not even that slow
>>59598519you don't have to press the tr button you know
>Wigglytuff doesn't learn boomburstHuh I kind of just assumed it did. Scream Tail does and it's not even a normal type. On that note Toucannon learns boomburst and hyper voice while Pidgeot only gets fucking round and hyper beam.
imagine rain pod if they had never removed water sport from the game
>>59598532This is why we need the OG Exploud they wont give it to stabbers (Toxtricity doesn't count)
>bring regular ass floette even though. you mega'd charizard for priority blockingman fuck you
>>59598552*parting shot specifically, not priority
>>59598552elaborate
>>59598570flower veil for monkey
Timing out shouldn't be a thing. I got timed out into a draw in M3 against a stalling Toxapex which I would have beat with my stalling Corviknight. We both still had over 4 minutes left on our clocks too. The game needs to be sped up because turns take forever, especially with grass terrain.
okay the luster on mega golisopod is kinda starting to wear thin on methe sheer amount of fucking gymnastics you have to do over the opponent having a single fire type with a focus sash is too much
>>59598614I'm been timing out since day 1 it's hilarious
flinched twice and missed award
>>59598455You thought you could keep the real #1 down with mence balance slop?lollmoa
>>59598455zard players are realizing the meta is no longer centralized to beat it
i already made a living dex ant thought it would be fun to make a "Battle dex" full of pokemon that are, were or may be competetivly useful in nice balls with fun titles, but i keep discovering niche strategies with shitmons
>>59598719>but i keep discovering niche strategies with shitmonssuch as?
>Two completely different groups of people at my college gym talking about countering Mega Golisopod by putting Flamethrower on their Salamences and putting together a PsySpam team yesterdayDamn, Champions really did drag VGC into public consciousness.
>>59598748>then everyone clappedSeriously though, GF is still planning to phase out the legacy battle system from the mainline games.Suits are so retarded.
>>59598756Z-A VGC will be sick bro just wait
>>59598756What actual competition (palworld) does to a motherfucker
>>59598780I just don't see it as competition though.Trend chasing for Pokemon is unhealthy, remember what yokai watch did to gen 7?Where is that franchise now?
>>59598614>FINALLY made it so Intimidate shows on both opponents to speed up a turn>All other instances remain untouchedSwing & a miss retards
>>59598789well go blame the retards going bro this is what i always wanted from pokemon broooo
>>59598789Its a completely different market but suits see differently. Technically it is competition but it's not even on the same price point and on a different platform. Palworld has plenty of players (grown adults mostly, obviously) but it wont cannibalize the Pokemon playerbase.But suits are dumb.
>Smack Down LO MamoNever looking back, lick my FAT HAIRY BALLS fucking shitass Corviknight
>>59598802I once lost my corvi to smack down no guard fissure steelix
>turn 1>maushold (sash) used follow me>farigiraf used trick room>lose to le slow sweepersWhat am I actually supposed to do in that situation
>>59598853You should have assessed it in the team preview and brought your slow/anti TR guy.
>>59598853sucker 4 jessica
Phew. I had a tilty day and dropped to 1670 yesterday but now I'm back above 1700. It just feels wrong having less than 1700. Like staring into the abyss.
>>59598853spread spamyour own pokemon that knows trick room to reverse itstall it out with protectmaus + farig isn't even a good TR lead
>>59598853Lead with a setup Pokemon that resists Maus + Farig (Gholdengo for example). First turn set up. Slow play the first couple turns of TR with protects and pivoting. Don't take KOs and give him the free switch to his sweepers. Make sure by turn three or four you've done enough damage to Farig that it can be knocked out by spread moves. Once TR ends, KO it before it can setup again.
>opponent brings swampert after seeing rillaboom
>>59598995>Gets upper handed into oblivionCounters are only good while they're alive.
>>59597871Physical attacks are mostly contact moves, so they also get punished by rough skin, rocky helmet, cursed body, spiky shield, etc
>opponent helping hands his goldengo
last respects isnt a contact move btw
>>59596222>Good play after good play>My scarf weedcat vs a -2 zomp>Miss triple axel the first time >Zomp protects the second time > Triple axel only hits 2 the next turn and I get knocked out Fuck my life bro
>>59597895Toxapex is THE Reddit mon
I keep forgetting Helping Hand doesn't affect Gholdengo
>go from 1392 to 1298 on bo3 ladderthis is why i dont ladder the week of majors lol, but only having 9 days of prep forces your hand. fuck tpc for this sick of a joke, bet you vegas wont get an extension and its gonna be 3 days to prep. its like they fucking like players struggle with brand new formats like they did with worlds 2023 and 2026
>>59599317>its like they fucking like players struggle with brand new formats like they did with worlds 2023 and 2026they do actually, people bring weird shit which people like to watch. if my math is correct, worlds 2027 should be the first major of the format.
>>59598995Maybe he had Ice Spinner
>>59598995swampert players do this so often, and ff when i just glide it. like what where you thinking? what was the line?
who has the lowest IQ, HTR, Rain or psyspam garde players
Thinking of running Scarf Gholdengo with Milotic to Haze the -2
floettezardies are getting too cocky again time to put glimmora back on the team
some real evil people take advantage of the chaos and bring classic perish rain
>golisopod + sleep powder/pollen puff vivillonwow I think I found the new most annoying gimmick everif you don't have a fire attacker or fake out you actually just lose to this on the spot
>>59599416Have I got a mon for you
>heat wave miss then double protect to lose game and fall to MB3fucking niggers
What's THE best Sneedsler check?
>>59599433gholdengo and psyspammerswhich is why all of them run throat chop now
>build counter team into the meta>stop playing meta teams, pair into random bullshit with random tech moves that beat my stuff>switch teams>starting play vs meta teams againfor what purpose? wasnt even on a winstreak
why the fuck is everyone running scarf a tales or glimm or sometimes both. im fine with cause im farming these fuckers either way.
I would like to use Pelipper, but I don't really like playing a rain team (also fuck archaludon)
>>59599446if you havent noticed, TPC wants certain mons/things to become meta, they also pick whats anti meta, ast season was mega scov and mega lass, both new ZA megas. your anti meta team doesnt fit w
>>59599418Just faced one of these for the first time since reg m-a and insta raped it.
>>59599468dont rape dinosaurs
>>59599450only way they go faster than mence, who those both are often checks for
>volcarona and kommo-o teamwhy yes we've had threat that becomes an unstoppable setup monster if you don't focus all your attention on it, but what about second (that)?
just fake out cycled a lucariotranny to death
>252+ Atk Metal Coat Metagross Steel Roller vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Indeedee: 297-349 (91.6 - 107.7%) -- 50% chance to OHKOBasically a Head/Tail bet
>>59599548i'm kinda surprised the base 145 atk STAB 130 base power 1.2x boosted move is even a roll at all
>>59599552oh this is base Metagrossmega always OHKOs if adamant
>>59599548>252get with the times old man
What is THE psyspam team right now?
>>59599586Indeedee mega gardevoir
>>59599588Do you have the pokepaste? Mega Gardevoir is fun. I'm planning to have the Sand Mence, a psyspam and another one with Froslass and Pawmot (or the dreaded Rain Golisopod).
>flamethrower on wigglytuff AND altariaoh my god bruh who hurt you
>>59599548>>59599558Teach me the ways of megagross, it's so cool but it's weak to the fish, and gambit, and the bara cat...
>>59599597drum monkey shuts down the fish really hard, plus he gives you free terrain to boost your steel roller if the opponent didn't bring any of their own
>my rock slide>double miss>their rock slide>double flinch
funny how basc has a reputation as a late game sweeper, but honestly 90% of the time I find it more useful as a lead to just wave crash delete anything I don't want to deal with later
>>59599598The unfixable 4MSS is the biggest problem to me>steel roller>ice punch>EQ/rock slide/protect>bullet punch/psy fangs/protect
>tfw no friend to talk about vgc while exchanging furry porn
>>59599621i'm bad at the game and i only like gay furry porn
how honest is my team:grassy seed sneasler with rock tombrillaboomraichu y with nasty plotarchaludonpolitoed with psychupgollipod
>>59599625what did mega lucario players mean by this
>>59599627>grassy seed sneasler0/10
>>59599625Perfect.
I always lose to trick room.
>>59599634Imprison Indeedee shuts them down..
>>59599639That means 1/6 of my team is useless if they don't have trick room, including half of the indeedee's moves
>>59599644you can just use trick room yourself when you need it
>>59599644Bring a really bulky slow sweeper so if they set trick room you have a trickroom pokemon and if they dont it's bulky enoigh to do some work outside of tr.
I want to use either mega glalie or starmie to remove terrain with ice spinner then self destruct/explode when the time is right and use pawmot's revival blessing to bring him back. Does anyone have any recommendations for some partners?
>>59599661pokeaim just did a video on this but its a meme team
i hate golisopod>one weakness>high attack>really bulky AND CAN RESTORE ALL ITS HEALTH WITH LEECH LIFE>slow but it has sucker punch so who cares
>opponents gardevoir traced basculegions adaptability
>>59599713>opponent's garevoir traced golisopod's emergency exit if only it mattered because they just mega anyway
Just got to MB2. How hard is it to get to Champion tier?
>>59599713>>59599733One time my Mega Alakazam traced Adaptability
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>>59599494>pelipper used muddy water!>Baxcalibur used glaive rush!
>>59598244I nicknamed my Rillaboom the same thing.
