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World champion edition

Pokémon Champions is a free to play online battle simulator available on Switch and mobile. It features ranked, casual and private battles for both singles and doubles, and will be used for VGC tournaments in 2026.

>News
Reg MC is now live. Baltimore Regionals September 18-20th


>Resources and useful links
Community Tournaments usage data: https://pikalytics.com/
Ladder usage data: https://pokechamdb.com/en
Damage Calculator
https://nerd-of-now.github.io/NCP-VGC-Damage-Calculator/
New Player Guide(NEW PEOPLE READ THIS):
https://rentry.org/pcg-guide (now taking suggestions and feedback)

Quick FAQ
>Do I need my own Pokémon to play?
No, the game features a recruitment system, but transferring from Home is recommended to save time and resources.
>What makes the game so much more accessible than before?
All aspects of a Pokémon are customizable with VP, a currency earned simply by playing the game. IVs are also removed.
Ask in the thread if you want any specific Pokémon, and someone will respond.
>Is there single player content?
No.
>Do I need a Nintendo Online subscription?
No.
>What's the starter pack?
US$6.99 one time purchase for 50 training tickets (fully train for free), 30 Teammate Tickets (recruit Pokemon without using VP), 50 extra box space and the LGPE trainer music. Only available on Switch for now.
>Is anything locked behind a paywall?
So far everything gameplay relevant is also purchasable with VP. Only E-Floette require ZA transfer.

>/pcg/ OP pastebin (use this if making new thread): https://pastebin.com/d2FJZdPh

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>>59599749
>Baltimore Regionals September 18-20th
any anons going to this?
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It's not worth running Sucker Punch on Mega Golisopod because everyone is still playing carefully around it
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Do anons host inhouses/tourneys? I know people do a draft league but thats on hold for a month apparently.
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>>59599760
Still don’t have a team btw lmao. Been top 100 consistently on bo3 ladder, until I keep paring into counters to whatever team I’m running. Shits even worse on champions in game which is why I don’t even play that after I get to master ball
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what partner would solve the indeedee+armarouge lead for golisopod?
it's always sashed
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>>59599762
aqua jet is an alternative if you play rain
slightly less power but can't fail

no sucker really sucks against the fish though
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Grapploct bros, we're so close... Will our mollusc make it?
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>>59599776
the champ would be an appropriate title
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Fuck bulky Charizard. Give me that 60% from a resisted Weather Ball
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>>59599770
what's the problem with them? trickroom with the giraffe, parting shot the armarouge into golisopod and use liquidation with a switch from the farig into pelipp. This should handily kill the armarouge. Or predict the armor cannon and leech life the indeedee to heal back up to full and pick up a free kill.
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Salamence is a fraud. I don't get the hype. Just use ice and poison and he's done. What a bum.
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>>59599776
show your team buddy
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>>59599776
How many games do you play a day?
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life becomes better when you stop fighting for terrain
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>rotom wash tricks choice scarf into indeedee
>tsareena knock offs the tricked choice scarf from indeedee
uhh... ok?
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I just realized I have two Steel megas. What should I switch Metagross for? Would Salamence fit there? Im normally leading Cofagrigus/Incin and have Goli/Toad in the back, dunno what other mega would duo good with Rilla.
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What rating do I need to get to stop encountering reddit megas like aggron?
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>>59599915
Add gengar and toss a perish trap mode for fun
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>>59599915
Maybe a special attacking mega, cofag and politoed aren't really heavy hitters
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>enemy tried to water spout twice and rock slide twice into wide guard
>also tried real hard to use eruption but that plan got rained on
I don't get it, why do people think you don't know what their best play will be? Like, if you have Torkoal, and Blastoise, along with a farig and Ttar, what makes you think the enemy will have no idea what you're gonna try? shit man, I wonder what the torkoal will do!
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>>59599927
this guy doesn't know about the power of life orb politoed
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people really still be running ttar sand teams with all physical attackers while the pod is in the house
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>>59599915
most glaring problem is this team has no charizard answer if you ever lose the weather war, which will happen
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>>59599915
zomp
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>>59599776
Bea would be proud
>>59599810
What, you dont like fewer zards?
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>>59599928
Sometimes they unsheathe weather ball
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Francesco Pio Pero just uploaded a team. i paid for it, here ya go

https://pokepast.es/6a8741f565400b13
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>>59599976
wow its exactly the same shit everyone is running except you added pikashit
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watching an opponent claw their way back from being outplayed multiple times with a double protect is so infuriating
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people in mb2 are still falling for delay mega inner focus dnite
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>>59599984
What counts as a perfect?
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>>59599976
>no incin
anti metagod...
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Kind of curious has anyone actually engaged in coaching by some pro vgc player did you find it was a scam or did it actually help.
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>>59599763
Im always trying to, but timing is the main issue as always.
Hosting is sort of a pain, unless people are willing to join. I just wanted to do a for fun tourney, where all we need is just like an hour of your time. ill even stream in you yt.
maybe will do an open one anyways this weekend, see how turnout looks like.
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I've lost 300 points trying random stuff
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>>59600004
Only parasocial fucks would do this
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I gained 300 points continuously baiting this one dude trying to use squawkabilly and shit. Pffft, what a loser!
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>>59600004
bro competitive pokemon is just guessing
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>>59600005
o7
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sylveon players don't be predictable with your detects challenge: impossible
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>run dogshit meme team
>lose
>get mad anyways
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>>59600008
I'm not getting anywhere near MB2 this season unless one of my meme strats goes on a crazy run, first season of a new regulation should be for playing around with the new tools at your disposal and see if some previously dismissed pokemon have got a new niche due to stuff like psyterrain + grassy terrain being added and depending on what the new meta is. The Eject button item has potential to make a lot of memes become dreams, it's fantastic on indeedee f to get in mons who can make more use of trick room turns and using follow me to help your TR setter set it up, it's good for helping Shed tail users set up mega golisopod and other boosting mons to get behind a sub as well
>casual battles
9 year olds with stuff like shadow claw weavile (not a great assessment if your meme team works or not)
>ranked
You need to have a "who cares about elo ima play and ajust till my idea clicks" attititude
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>>59600005
>maybe will do an open one anyways this weekend
theres a regional this weekend
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>>59600043
true
i guess the question goes then how many people here, around this time, will care about attending/watching the regional vs playing the game against other anons
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>>59600041
I actually fell down from MB1 running my own stuff but yeah fuck it Pincurchin champ tier run let's go
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>>59600046
Friday might be a more auspicious evening brother...
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trade offer:
- double protect is removed from the game (100% chance to fail if used again)
- new move added: dodge - can be used multiple turns in a row like wide guard, but only protects you from one move, you still get hit if they double up on you
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>>59600054
Nah
My counter offer
>a pokemon can only use protect once while on the field (resets on switch out)
You gotta make your protects count.
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>>59600049
Literally me the last week of last season, humbled from 2100 to 1850 towards the end, i need to start blessing my opponents when they beat me instead of getting pissy calling them slurs while laughing at how ridiculous some of the RNG is, cause getting angry at the game is the main source of a tilt
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>>59600054
>- new move added: dodge - can be used multiple turns in a row like wide guard, but only protects you from one move, you still get hit if they double up on you
dipshit suggestion
>run coverage for everything or else you lose!!!!!!
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>>59600060
slaking hands typed this post
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>>59600054
nigga just ruined singles permanently
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>>59600068
kek you're completely right i didn't consider that implication at all
it would have to have extremely low PP so toxic stallers and shit can't use it
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>>59599799
your rock dog bwo?
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>>59600054
could be interesting with limited distrubution and it also gets broken by multi-hit moves
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Anyone care to please gen or raise me a bax please? only getting rolls of last regs mons + dupes from this reg
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lost to golisopod again award
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>>59600097
for me its
>brought three golisopod counters and lost to the other mega again award
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>>59600054
I was listening to Kino Casino the other day and they bought up the idea of darksydephil being a pokemon who only knows the move "Beg", I was thinking of how it would work and came up with it being a +1 or 2 priority attack where DSPig begs for mercy and it has a 1/3 chance for each opposing pokemon to feel sorry for you and do half damage to the target/s if one or 2 opposing mons are affected by the move, a 1/3 chance of being ignored by each opposing pokemon and them doing regular damage and a 1/3 chance of making an opposing pokemon angry and they crit with their attack (would have that result every time if an opposing monbhad anger point). His ability would be Pignosis which makes Beg work 50% of the time on an opposing pokemon when first sent out, his stats would add up to 220. Holy shit i am autistic but I probably wouldn't played pokemon well into adulthood if wasn't
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>>59600083
Just a sec
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>>59600100
It's a lot easier when you realize there are two types of golisopod players, ones that lead it and try to run on momentum, or ones that save it until the end to try use it as a last resort to save themselves. so as long as you take your one answer and lead it then ditch to conserve if they don't start it you can beat them pretty easily

t. someone that plays golispod as an anchor.
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>they lead with charizard and venusaur
OH BOY I REALLY REALLY REALLY LOVE 160 SPEED SLEEP POWDER :)))
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>>59600110
your lum berry follow me pokemon?
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>>59600110
I do not have this problem
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Do any of you have a shiny female meowscarada and a shiny female indeedee for my all female team
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is it better to have a team that's easy to win with against 75% of teams but loses HARD to the other 25%, or a team that can theoretically win any matchup but has to be played well to do so?
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I'm such a dogshit player, it took me so long to get to master ball.
I still need to figure out what to move around for Archaludon, he hasn't been doing shit for me unless I get a completely unsalvageable goli matchup.
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>>59600160
I mean, do you consider yourself a good player? If you don't wanna learn to pilot it or anything probably the former
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>>59600171
in what way is archaludon not doing what you want?
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>>59600181
The most annoying matchups I've gotten involve dragon types, like chomp, mence and dragonite. So I need something that can handle those three, so far I'm leaning towards baxcalibur because he hits really fuckin' hard and can also benefit from the rare torkoal/charizard trying to nuke my team.
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>>59600189
I use A-Ninetales personally since ontop of being fast it's immune to their nasty dragon coverage, which is something that weavile might struggle with, if you're fine with taking the trades bax is a great pick/
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according to pokebase only 1.5% of mega gardevoirs have mystical fire, but in my matches it feels like 50%
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>>59600200
well do they have other fire types to pick up the slack? if not, then most like they have it ready.
i run trick room, torkoal, armarouge with mega garde, so she herself dont need mystical fire.
you just sorta have to know
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>>59600205
i suppose that's a decent tell
i'll have to keep that in mind for the salamences too
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>>59600189
Depending how that pelliper is trained and if you have a move slot to give up, ice beam will ohko mence.
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>>59600232
port-a-potty is my OG anti-mence check, it has max spa and spa+ nature. It very rarely doesn't one-shot a mega mence, the biggest issue is that they will see it coming so i gotta protect on turn 1 during trick room to then potentially hit them with the ice beam.
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>>59600200
Is it hv, mf, ef, mamoru?
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Got around to trying Manetric + RaichuX. It works surprisingly well. Tailwind is less common now so I outspeed most of the terrain setting teams.

I don't have many ways of stopping trickroom setup and the bulk isn't fantastic though.
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>>59600241
wut
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>>59600249
>he doesnt know mamoru
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>>59599915
>>59599924
following up, swap out cofagrigus too for pawmot potentially. you do lose trick room, but revival blessing perish trap sounds really funny
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>mega salamence turn one
>choice scarf final gambit staraptor outspeeds and ohkos
simple as
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>>59600238
Really? I'm at roughly the same elo as you, my team is kind of similar but I use politoed. They almost never swap and get punished by icebeam, unless I go too hard and bring weaville and politoed.
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>>59600254
I just had a guy use his staraptor's final gambit t1 on my incineroar and left it at 10hp.
He then surrendered. I got no idea what the fuck he was supposed to do.
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>>59600260
Incineroar is a coin toss. Depends if you want to gamble if the opponent is running bulky Incin or not. Not sure if people run bulky Rillaboom so I typically default to the "weaker" of the two (usually M-Mence to remove their mega)
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>>59600260
He miscalced how much hp you had, let me guess he was on the cybertron golispod team. He felt doing a 1 for 1 trade of you incinceroar was worth it to clear the way for mega shit cumshot not realizing that was never possible
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What should I name my shiny male Gardevoir?
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>trick room up, golisopod comes out facing a sylveon, opponent sends out an armarogue
>decide instead of mega evolving, to have farig helping hand iron head onto the sylveon
>ko it easily, armarogue armor cannons into golisopod but i only take half since i held mega
>emergency exits giving me a free swap into politoed thanks to the tr, effectively winning me the game
having emergency exit actually be useful gave me so much dopamine
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>>59600262
>>59600265
I don't recall his exact team, the only thing that stood out was the suicide bomber staraptor.
And yeah, I run tank incineroar, he only exists to support my team, so he has zero points in attack. He's on cycle duty to cuck any phys attacker and fake out my support mons
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Stockpile torterra is probably better for the simple beam stockpile psych up megabro strat cause it helps with the ychu matchup while snorlax and pex are bad into it and pex shares weaknesses with bro, shell armor can help if you aren't able to get a simple beam onto it and not worrying about it getting crit incoming if eject button indeedee f is doubled up on, I hate wearing things down with infestation anyway and torterra gets Body Press
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>>59600274
He probably went up against a less bulky Incin and generalized all were safe. Incins pretty much useless against my Farig/Staraptor lead (I do zheng pod team) so gives me a free KO into their other slot most of the time and a free swap into Politoed. I'd do Coaching Pawmot lead if it wasn't for fake out pressure.
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If you see something and you dont know what theyre doing with it that means kill it asap
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>>59600274
Yep, as a golisopod player let me tell you, if the mon has a fire symbol next to it, it can probably one shot him outside rain (and some in), scarf final gambit staraptor I've only seen on megapod teams this format specifically because most players will bring 2 fire options at most and you can tell one of them to fuck off meaning you only have to deal with one at worst before sweeping with the pod.
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>>59600277
>farig (or Fdeedee) with staraptor
I hate that start so god damn much because there's nothing I can do to prevent the staraptor from raping either my farig or my inc. I got no idea how to deal with it when it does happen. I've considered doubling up on it but the few times I've ran into it, I do some fuckass shit that leads me to instant loss
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>>59600272
uhh idk im not clever enough with names.
Usually i just scrape names of showderp since they have the memes already
>https://dogars.org/results?q=gardevoir&page=1
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>>59600283
From personal experience, the two things that have fucked me were
>follow me indeedee + m-gardevoir, followed by a second follow me mon like maushold allowing gardevoir to shred
>miscalling the protect, taking damage
Rage powder Sinistcha too, but that's a very niche lead. My recommendation is to run Incin with max HP so it can't get OHKOed, or "bait" a protect with your weaker mon and then damage Staraptor (or swap into a bulky mon/ghost type). The times I got fucked were a protect that typically isn't used on turn one or an unexpected swap because they clocked what I was doing, rather than falling for thinking I was doing M-Rapetor
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>>59600283
Raptors max hp is 192 so ev over that for incin and then double the farig
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>>59600288
It's the close combat that fucks me over, it's why I carry a chople berry on the incineroar, so it can survive and flame blitz the staraptor on a double with twin beams farig.
>>59600287
Yeah I run neither of those, I'm a hard goliever
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I am once again asking for your support
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>>59600301
just a sec
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ok i feel like i can’t improve unless i understand how to lead in those retarded game and HOW to lead against my opponent. Seriously i’ll see my opponent have indeedee and that fire canon fag and be like oh ok, its trick room psyspam i’ll try to lead against that.
>they lead random bullshit that perfectly counters what i have
like what the fuck man, closed team sheet is a nightmare. I genuinely have no idea what the hell my opponents are ever doing
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>>59600275
How about both Toxapex and Terra? Torterra has too many weaknesses and you can choose which one you bring on MU
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>>59600303
Legend thanks anon
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>>59600320
Happy to help
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Is it a coincidence that shiny mega shit cumshot is white?
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I love learning new synergies in the teams I build, infestation toxapex makes Sucker Punch mindgames elemetary
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>>59600343
People still run sucker punch in this meta? Lol
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>more anons falling for the "You HAVE to counterplay in team select or you are SHIT"
>They haven't mastered the art of retardmaxxing
>>59600312
Post team and rank
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I wonder if whim players will start running cholorophyll thanks to indeedee, not that it'd help encoring trick room
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>>59600358
Where's your steam roller/ice spinner bro?
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>>59599749
I fucking swear the more I play the more nowhere i get in ultra
why is master being gatekept this hard?

fucking greedy ass chink game developers
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>>59600388
Metagross steam roller is not difficult to counter with the right prep. Can also just run fari instead of femdee
>>59600415
News at 11
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>>59600415
Just copy some metaslop that plays itself or build a team to cover whats popular, even a gimmick cheese team should suffice
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>>59600419
It's definitely not but, and I'll admit this is an opinion coming from a 1600 player, but it does seem like a good method for ladder climbing, open team sheet however eww.
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>>59600104
Thanks and God bless
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>>59600440
Most mega metagross run steamroller now. If you see metagross, keep your dee or ape at the back. Im sure you must be running coverage for steel or psychic. You only run into a problem if it runs explosion and baits you to not run protect.
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People keep saying Steamroller and I’m thinking they suddenly made that move useable again for some reason
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i don't understand what the distrubition of terrain pulse is supposed to be based on at all
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>>59600469
well obviously its uhhhh ummm uhhh
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Arboliva seems good in singles. I havent played bss yet so i wonder if people are running her there
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Ok some chink is running the skill swap steel beam thing but with LO Arch and Alakazam
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>>59600456
that's a shame, after my mega shit cumshot attempts ended I kind of wanted to do some experiments with fake out spam+rilla and meta. but explosion sounds lame.
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Anyone messed around with the skill swap + competitive/defiant gimmick with wyrdeer with any success?
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>>59600464
You're right i keep mixing the two up. Imma just call it roller kek
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>>59599749
this is the fourth time you guys used that as the op pic
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>>59600483
why? it's a brick on its own and it has the typical grass shitmon movepool
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>>59600523
I guess not
For a second there, i remember watching a wyrdeer hypnosis team which ran with milo so i thought it had skill swap
>https://youtu.be/Lf8Fy3p2bBA?si=-1Oj1RVW7NE3iVSt
it didnt, but i think you could probably slot it in and make it work still
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>>59600533
As it should. We should have yamazaki sensei as the OP pic in intervals until SG worlds
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>>59600536
that's retarded. i rather have coomer slop than repeating images
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just run to reddit and steal a meme for the op, its not like anyone will care
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>>59600538
>coomer slop
I dont think anyone would appreciate tourists raiding this general because of coomer bait and thinking its free real estate
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>>59600533
>you guys
It's clearly just one guy obsessed with that pear shaped translator
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Simple beamed Stockpile Toxapex + psych up megabro farms menceslop
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>>59600557
dude reinvented overqwil sableye for some reason
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>>59600557
I really should run taunt or haze for guys like you
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>>59600272
Gerbert.
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So how do i manually gen an es la basc through a home trade? Just saw someone get hacked es la bascs on the plebbit by randomly offering gholdengos or f-dees on gts
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I spent 100k VP and still have not seen a single Mence
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>Typically play very non-meta teams
>Generally win
>Not sure if it's due to skill or the opponent not knowing what the fuck my team is going to do next
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>>59600647
i can give you one right now. just set up a Home GTS request and post your screen here. i got an extra
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I will NOT miss the last 2 regulations, fuck charizard y, fuck whimsicott, fuck basculegion, fuck minimise overqwil and fuck garchomp
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>>59600668
Oh and especially fuck farigaraf
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>>59600668
Right? It's still pretty tough but it doesn't feel as overcentralized (i.e., boring). Like I don't even feel bad about taking Ls unlike M-B (i wasn't here for M-A)
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>>59600661
Can you find this?
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>>59600693
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>>59600702
Thanks a lot anon
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What is the fucking point of Quick Guard and Upper Hand if you can't actually do anything about fast fake out users with them? Why does Sneasler just have an uncounterable fake out? What is this retarded ass game that tricks you with move wording that you have to Google to figure out why it failed
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>>59600715
Use Quick Guard/Upper Hand on a pokemon faster than Sneasler, or consign yourself to use it against just on predictable lower-priority priority moves. I don't know what else to tell you.
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>>59600731
>yeah bro here's this anti prio move ability, but you can only use it if you would've outsped the guy anyways

So just use a prio move of your own instead on the slot and out prio the guy prioing you. Just a stupid edge case move that theorizes well but never plays well.
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>>59600734
I've used Quick Guard a lot with MSceptile + Jolteon as well as Upper Hand with RaichuX + Jolteon. It is more useful than you think with the former allowing me to shut down the common Fake Out/Farig TR set up.

If you're having trouble utilizing it, that's on you.
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>>59600742
Thank you based silly team ultraballer
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>>59600743
I'll be stone cold dead before I play metaslop.
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seed sceptile for fast shed tail
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>>59600749
that's 1000% more viable than running quick guard or upper hand. acrobatics Sceptile on sneasler is an OHKO. Hawlucha on the other hand .... is still 2 points slower.
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>>59600756
*isn't
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I just cannot enjoy this game anymore
ranking feels like a never ending chore.

you derank more than what you gain wtf?
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>>59600767
better drop the light ball pikachu anon
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whys there an update
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>Miss TWave but get Rocks up
>Sirfetch'd crits through +1 Pod
>Finally get my footing
>Ice Shard Chomp
>Forfeit as the anination for M-Metagross plays out
>Wasn't expecting to barely survive Bullet Punch into LO EQ 1shot so we both go down
>Still win & hit Masters

BEST FUCKING ICE TYPE
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>>59600767
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>>59600816
bro reinvented overqwil psych up metagross
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>making pincurchin team
>accidentally queue ranked instead of casual
>opponent afks after one discharge from the 'chin
is he that powerful?
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I've seen people forfeit to this...
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>>59600878
it was me. i loss to the izzatrd
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Every Golisopod team I’ve played vs folds to zardy. Even when they play well.
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>mega audino simple beamed into hatterene
ah yeah, clever
slowbro side arm this bitch
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>>59600888
It's their toughest matchup by far.
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>>59600888
People who play pod without a backup alternate mode for bad matchups are asking for trouble.
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>>59600888
>play golisopod
>see practically unwinnable matchup
>don't bring pod to that game
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>>59599749
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>>59601047
How many fire types did you see on your side of team preview, that's probably why. I get a little nervous about it if I even see 2.
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Where is bunbachan... it's been 12 days.... has she retired?
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sejun is running grapploct
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>>59601085
It’s functions as budget urshifu
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>>59601073
NTA but 1 fire mega or 2 regular fires and I'm bringing dnite/glimmora
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Just read grapplocts bulbapedia
>Golisopod is the natural predator or prey of Grapploct, depending on who wins the fight.
This makes the kino fights I've had with Grapploct against Golisopod even kinoer in retrospect, I've had Grapploct 1v1 the pod in endgames
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>>59601085
grapploct is really good as an anti incineroar/kingambit tech. Hell, storm throw damage is crazy even on neutral into a lot of mons.
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Grapploct should have a move that prevents the targeted Pokemon from moving/switching for 2 turns, but Grapploct is also immobile.
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>the opposing mega delphox used expanding force!
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>>59601312
You forgot the stupid bridge which it destroys through every stamina boost and screen imaginable
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>archaludon just sitting on the field getting double leftovers recovery from grassy terrain while rillaboom wails on it with high horsepowers doing <10% to max stamina
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underrated aspect of sneasler being poison type is I can't even use glimmoras toxic spikes to btfo the switching/fake out spam archetype of teams because that stupid thing just absorbs them

that and many of the big meta guys being flying type also sucks for it
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Why is H Arcanine in every team now?
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>>59601406
head smash zard resist
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>>59601406
kills zard
kills mence
kills pod
kills monkey
kills string cheese man
resists floette
less fish to kill it
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>>59601414
kills cat and bit
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>>59601406
good against the meta
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>>59601430
I don't think it actually does kill cat after intimidate but at least it hurts a lot
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tfw 10 winstreak in casual but scared to play ranked
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>>59601435
you wont get better this way
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when are they going to remove random freeze from the game? The only matches I've lost today were from
>Is frozen solid!
from random blizzards that did like 30% at most
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this meta is really tough for 4MSS mons
with fake out happening basically every 5 seconds protect is almost mandatory for anything that wants to stay on the field or else you're gonna get clapped and slapped
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SNEASLER IS SO FUCKING GAY
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Sneedler
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>lost to archaludon again
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>forgot to bring his own Sneasler award
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>opponents golisopod does significantly more damage to mine than mine does to his even though we're both at +2
did bro really invest into physical defense on pod just to win the mirror

I think he also went max spatk arch for the exact same purpose
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>park life orb gambit in front of arch next to sneasler
>CC arch, SD with gambit
>have zard and chomp clean the scraps
>win
Not that hard
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the amount of stuff that grassy glide can pick off from half health or so as a priory move is actually obscene
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>>59601506
To thing it used to be stronger as well. Good god.
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>>59601506
for me it's that life orb wood hammer. jesus christ. that is THE delete chomp button.
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When the farig actually was sap sipper
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>>59601506
terrain+priority interaction was a mistake and never should have existed
the fact that it's +1 means you can't even use terrain removing moves to get rid of the terrain before rilla moves - the ONLY option to cut it off is to hard switch in a different terrain setter with all the risks that entails

expanding force and rising voltage are also really powerful moves but at least there are more ways to interrupt the user before they can attack
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>>59601526
i mean there's also farig and tsareena
also fake out, but ironically that just makes one of those feedback loops where one of the best rilla counters is another rilla
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>>59600475
The common thread is that the have pule theme and these ones that don't are close to nature. Speaking of which, is secret power defunct?
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>>59601521
wolfe glick ran this at 2023 worlds, even he admitted that it was not the right choice
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>>59601540
It literally only works in CTS where they'll at least have to try once to find out
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Which one of you guys is this?
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>>59601545
not me, I would be more creative with my racism
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>>59601545
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>>59601526
I can't believe how many kills pincurchin gets with rising voltage, imagine if I actually gave it a boosting item
it's also funny, I named him little chum
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Can anyone reccomend a balance team thats solid into everything? Ive been trying this retarded abomination team i made and have concluded that i have 0 team building skills. Im mid 1700 and almost all my games are won due to basculegion turn 1 wave crash robbery. I try the grimmsnarl arch combo but something usually always goes wrong idk, i have no sustain. The charizard is nice but the venu never does anything
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>>59601545
Oh so you can name a gorilla nigger but I cant name mine thumper
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>>59601549
this is the reason why e terrian is nerfed by limited distro, its why electric types have shit movepools and cant hit ground. they are mostly to fast and offesnive, miraidon is about the worst you can go with the multipliers.
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>>59601550
I increasingly find grimmisnarl to be a jobber in this meta and am close to dropping him, he usually just gets faked out and maybe one screen or parting shot off before becoming a worthless meat shield for incoming chip damage

you might prefer one of the other "slap this on any team and it works" like sneasler rilla or incin
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>>59601555
yeah but like koko and miraidon are huge outliers they're more like zardy helping himself alochu fucking sucks as an eterrain abuser
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>>59601545
>>59601548
Rillasisters... they're making fun of us......
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>>59601545
nah I'd call him MLK or something if I wanted to be racist
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>>59601562
yeah like, grimmsnarl games usually go like this
>get up reflect or light screen
>now stuck on the field not really doing anything
>can’t switch into pelliper safely
like obviously you are supposed to parting shot, but if the opponent protects then you are stuck on the field wasting more time. He feels so inefficient
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>>59601562
With arch its too hard to set up rain and use him at once. Honestly that anon is probably better off replacing the grimm with a gholdengo or whatever else is dominating the meta
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>>59601576
parting shot is a really nice rain setup though for situations like charizard where you can't hard switch in because it happens before mega
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>>59601578
I guess, even so it feels like that team has too much going on. People predicted charizard y usage would turn back up but it still hasn’t. Everything got faster and more aggressive which is annoying for him since he likes to run bulk.
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with fake out spam everywhere sableye might be the better rain screen setter
rain dance does what parting shot+switch into pelipper does at the cost of no stat drops, but can't be protected and can be repeated next turn if necessary
also much harder for sneasler to kill quickly
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just soak beamed a charizard switch in
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Politoad is better than peliper, its bulkier and can also just ice beam a salamence.
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what pokemon could be nicknamed "cracker" to make fun of white bois?
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>>59601612
if you can't figure out the obvious answers, you're too stupid to play at racism
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>>59601612
male sylveon
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>>59601616
kek
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>torkoal team with mystical fire on indeedee and flamethrower on glowbro

kek this guy is absolutely mindraped by the pod
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>t tar mence popular week one
>every team has a random tech to beat it
why didnt you fuckers do this with big 6? just like that team rape you but t tar mence is where you draw the line?
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use soak on your mega golisopod
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>>59601634
>why didnt you fuckers do this with big 6?
the were limited checks to use and big 6 covered for its weakness well, if if they couldnt, they would lead whims basc and just outrade your team in TW
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>>59601635
not sure if it's worth a moveslot and a turn just to make him go from 4x weak to 2x
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>>59601406
Pod insurance
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increasingly tempted to run rillaboom for the sole purpose of being able to sucker punch that stupid fucking final gambit bird
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Just wide guard on everything you can
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Clicking wide guard on king gambit in case he has brutal swing
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>>59601676
I was banished to 1400s hell messing around and I faced a guy who only had 1 spread move per pokemon, it was a very frustrating battle before spamming wide guard cause of accuracy debuffs from muddy water before and i won before the timer called a draw cause their sylveon started using Struggle, that guy was probably doing a "Can I win Only Using Spread Moves" challenge or something idk
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Is Kingambit honest now?
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>>59601689
He's always been honest, only seemed obnoxious cause of how busted basc was last reg
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okay but how are you actually supposed to deal with charm whims starraptor
are you just fucked if you can't kill it turn 1 or 2?
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>>59601705
use follow me
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>psyspam hard TR team
>lead with aurora veil + volcarona and quiver dance until nothing does damage anymore
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>>59601705
gholdengo will make them switch most of the time
fdd and sinistcha ruin it too
threaten fake out to get a free turn
trick room
psyspam
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>>59601705
it's one of those things where it's trivial if you have a counter (gholdengo, follow me clefable, taunt, encore, etc.) but completely turbofucked if you don't

I hate that type of matchup fishing bullshit way more than zard/menceslop
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>>59601705
tfw never had to give shit about this team in reg B because I ran mono ghost but now realizing why it's infamous
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>crack the meta
>get timerstalled
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>mystical fire on gambit
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CLAP CLAP CLAPCLAPCLAP
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>>59601777
god i want a bbl so badly
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>>59601777
*dink*
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Lmao at mega ttars knock off animation being appropriate looking like and hitting like a slap as it hits +6 megabro, loving the pseudo leftovers (and Poison Heal in toxapex's case) that rillaboom teams provide
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im starting to think competitive pokemon might be bad
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>>59601777
bark bark BARK
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Why is Volcarona popular rn
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>>59601834
Aerodactyl becoming extinct again
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>>59601834
Shits on golisopod and psychics
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>>59601834
zard going away means less rocks flying all over the place
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>>59601834
special attackers are in vogue right now and bug stocks are rising
also shits on rilla steels and close combat
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are we running attack monke or spdef monke?
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>>59601863
Healslut monke on the opponents team
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>be down bad in 1400s hell
>my cheese team starts to click and now almost in MB3
Just like my animes
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Simple Beam is such an unexplored move, i want to turn Dommo-o into Dondo-o once i grind the VP to facilitate the team, volc is also an option
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The Pokemon Company suddenly adds a chat feature to each battle. Post what you would have said to last your opponent!
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>>59601880
the problem is they see audino they know what's up and will likely just kill one of your mons who are doing nothing that turn
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Volcarona, Kommo-o, and what else?
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>>59601889
Sirfetch'd, I swear
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>>59601889
You know who else *Light Yagami laugh"
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>>59601889
Coil milotic
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>>59601834
It's a solution that charizard y already presented. Frankly I don't understand it but I believe once the new toy smell wears off people will be back on zard
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>>59601892
The quill with which I'll write your death
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>>59601891
>>59601892
>>59601896
Who the fuck hurt you three? Jesus.
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>>59601900
Charizard Y, Garchomp, Whimsicott, Eternal Floette, Farigiraf. Venasaur and Basculegion
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>>59601906
I DON'T WANT TO GO BACK TO M-B PLEASE
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I just got a shiny Salamence with a bunch of ribbons, OT name is Prime.... for a regular Skarmory. Pretty sure someone made a mistake or someone cloned their mon and felt suddenly generous. But thanks whoever you are cousin
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>>59601910
I'm a ribbon scientist, if you post the list I can tell you if its glitched but thats it. It's stupendously easy to clone a salamence on swsh
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i miss xerneas
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>>59601915
literally nobody has ever said this
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>>59601915
They better add ferrothorn by the time they add the LSDeer
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What are fun/good ways to run hard TR right now? Obviously golisopod is insane, but I was also thinking of life orb or berry that halves grass dmg rampardos, but he seems incredibly week.

I also feel like a slow fake outter + farig is better than indedee + whatever else you open with to set
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>Going on another losing streak and am back down to high 1400s
I’m not going back to 900s again anons, but something is definitely fucked with this team. I took out Basculegion and tried replacing it with Harcanine and Sneasler with Focus Sash for more immediate damage and Grimmsnarl to try and set screens up but none of these have helped. It feels like everything I’m going up against hits too hard while I cannot hit them as hard back. The only thing that has been working has been my day one Kommo-O.
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>>59601705
chandelure.
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>>59601947
EVs in case this helps.
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>>59601944
rampardos is unironically too fast for hard TR
you need the fastest TRer in the game
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>think im clever and funny for making sirfetch'd team for tr
>cybertron posts a sirfetch'd video 3 hours later
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>>59601947
i get the potential utility of u-turn, but the redundancy of 2 bug moves on pod isn't worth the slot - especially if you don't get TR up since you're going to have to hard switch out of anything that threatens to kill pod anyway - protect or swords dance will win you more situations

farig tbolt being your only mon that threatens flying types while you have 2 weak and zero resists to it is also a glaring weakness, especially with mence everywhere
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>>59601947
I'd ditch Flamethrower on Kommo-o, and invest some speed so it can be faster than the most common stuff around 80 speed. Might be worth making Basculegion survive a Kingambit Sucker Punch too.
If it was up to me, I'd compress Farigiraf and Rillaboom into Indeedee Female and bring along Archaludon or something like that. Or if you want to keep Rilla, give it High Horsepower instead of U-Turn.
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>>59601944
Mega Funbro
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Anons, what are your thoughts on my current team? I've been enjoying it so far.
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>>59601981
>mystical fire garde
>acrobatics sneasler
>no TR indeedee with protect
bo1 ladder troll/10
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>>59601987
Champions ranked is indeed best-of-one.
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>>59601966
how tf is 58 speed too fast? almost nothing underspeeds it and i run hammer arm
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>>59601947
>>59601950
Also forgot to mention I removed Hurricane in place of Ice Beam on Pelipper.

>>59601949
Chand was also on my day one team too, and it might be worth revisiting. Had it as my alt TR setter with Sash but Trick with Choice Scarf seems like it might be fun too.

>>59601969
Mence funnily enough has been the least of my worries. Most I’ve come across have run Draco Meteor, Hyper Voice (does nothing to Soundproof Kommo-O) and Heatwave. They also seem to blast DM into Farig on turn one to try and nuke it down so Kommo-O can clean it up on the following turn if leading with it too. Zard has been making a resurgence which is making me consider something like Gargnacl or TTar (Harcanine has proven to be too frail) but have mainly been coming up against MGardevoir Expanding Force spam which is making me lean towards the latter.
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>>59601975
Rilla has been on the chopping block. Wood Hammer hitting like a truck into neutral targets has been great but Grassy Terrain has more often than not been helping my opponents. Not sure what I’d replace it with though.
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>>59601975
>>59601992
Just saw the Indeedee part and I’d normally agree but that would stop me from running Spod’s Sucker Punch which has been a good move for it so far.
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i think sand pod might be an overlooked path
who needs to resist fire types if you can just kill them before they even do anything with scarf ttar or excadrill
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>>59601989
it's slower than slow gambit for example
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>>59601889
>Used both of these in M-A
>Neither of them in M-C
It is what it is
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>>59601992
>>59601995
Fair enough, how about Archaludon and Sinistcha? These give you good switch ins against Fairy, Rage Powder is good redirection and you still get Trick Room.
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>>59602007
The bridge could work but previous attempts with Sinistcha have been a bit lackluster. But I’m open to giving it a shot and this has reminded me that Friend Guard Maushold is an option with Follow Me and Super Fang (former doesn’t care about Grass types ignoring its redirection).
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>>59602017
>the feet licker
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>>59602017
Face she makes when you cum
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>>59602027
kowtow*
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Is there any mon that competes with farig for a TR setter? It's so boring and I hate using it.
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>>59602037
>>59602017
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>>59602037
mr mime
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>>59602037
bro still hasn't updated from M-B
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>>59602037
People use indeed now but I still like the giraffe since it's decent in non-TR teams too
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>We have Archaludon at home
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Metafag banner dropped
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Never thought that Wigglytuff would be an ideal 6th slot for a team but here we are
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in M-C you can make a band themed team now

>primarina
high vocals
>skeledirge
low vocals
>toxicitry
guitar
>rillaboom
drums
>chimecho
accessory percussion (bells/triangle)

just needs a keyboard player or something
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>>59602098
it would be triple percussion but kommo-o is also sound themed
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>>59602098
Noivern can be the loudspeakers
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>>59602098
Bellibolt
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>>59601947
U-turn is a waste of a slot, either go Golisochud with SD or troon protect. Your only mandatory move is Leech life, the other one should be some coverage of some sort like uhhhh sucker punch to one-shot basculegions and drill run for electric niggers
>+2 32+ Atk Tough Claws Golisopod-Mega Sucker Punch vs. 32 HP / 32 Def Basculegion: 260-306 (114.5 - 134.8%) -- guaranteed OHKO
>+2 32+ Atk Tough Claws Golisopod-Mega Drill Run vs. 32 HP / 26 Def Archaludon: 198-234 (100.5 - 118.7%) -- guaranteed OHKO
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volcarona has won me so many games solo
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>>59602146
Yeah I’ve gone Swords Dance over U-Turn now. Still not sure about keeping Sucker Punch due to all the fucking Psyspam around and not sure about ditching Iron Head given how useful it’s been so far. I’ll return to the team once I get the Bridge from the current Singles Monthly Challenge and once I’ve determined what spreads I want to run on Friend Guard Maushold, but for now I’m going back to my Mega Froslass team. Even univested its Blizzard and Shadow Ball still do good damage and it’s been a more consistent team than Goli has for me.
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lebron james reportedly forgot to bring his basculegion counter to the game
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Clefable follow me + Lucario Z nasty plot has brought back my joy
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imo the two best pod sets are

leech/sucker or aqua jet/swords/protect:
- swords is necessary to make sucker threatening
- protect is necessary so you can stay on the field while partner takes care of a bad matchup instead of having to switch out and lose the boost
- don't run aqua unless you have rain support, but if you don't can be worth it

some combination of leech/iron/sucker/aqua jet/liquidation/close combat
- forego the boosting and just be a coverage monster that hits like a truck
- just tank shit you can survive and switch out on shit you can't
- imo this one really wants trick room
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>>59602217
that shit makes me want to put heat wave on something even though i run a rain team
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>>59602231
LOL
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>Hmm? Yes, I am a metafag who has never had an independent thought in his life. Why yes, I do run Rillaboom and Salamence. How could you tell?

Get ruined by a fricking Manetric team, chud.
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>>59602246
>Manetric
i have played this once at a regional, twice on ladder, i am 3-0 vs it in sets...
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Rillaboom this format feels like Great Tusk in singles where it's everywhere but not overbearing and has plenty of counterplay
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>>59602254
How did you run it? I know it's not the easiest thing to do.
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do i run grapploct or sirfetch'd
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>>59602246
I make those teams dance to my tune on the regular, free 300 vp + elo 9/10 times, covering for that does leave me with a not so great rain matchup however
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>>59602269
Depends. Are you Team Bea or Ash?
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>>59602264
basically the equivalent of what garchomp was in reg B
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>>59602264
Sneedler with sneeds is the mon that feels unfair this reg
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>get trapped on the field by mega gengar with two things that can't kill archaludon quickly
>no matter how fast you get rid of the gengar it's too late because arch already has 2 boosts by then

thanks I hate it
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About to go into a work meeting but how’s this team looking? Mentioned here >>59602209 that it’s feeling mostly good but jury is out on whether Arcanine is a good fit for the team or not. Thought about swapping it for Volcarona or Talonflame (people keep forgetting the latter has Taunt for some reason), but they both have their own respective issues and Arc and Talon can get Faked Out, then killed by the opposing partner. Psyspam continues to be the bane of my existence.
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>>59602312
Sorry forgot pic
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>>59602222
>quads of truth
>imo the best pod set is:
>*lists half his moves*
I’m nodding so sagely rn anons
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>>59602314
Well Talonflame gets defog which can remove terrain. So if you're willing to use it as a bulky support mon with Flame Body, you can clear terrain pretty easily.
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>>59602321
well really the important part is I just thing swords dance and protect should go together
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cherishing this moment before it all comes crashing down
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Iron Ball Skill Swap Malamar + Wide Lens Hydrapple in Trick Room, probably caps at 1600 but it's fun
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>>59602335
I believe that using trick room and rain makes the no-protect goli team much more stable against fire but tends to struggle against the bridge and other electric/water niggers. In fact, I've been struggling with these exact two cunts a lot more than fire or psyspam. Fire can be handled with proper switching (or just tank through it with rain and pelipper wide-guarding) or flipping the table on them through TR and forcing protects and switches. Psycunts are a non-issue I've found, just gotta open with golisopod and farig for the TR
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>both of us lead our mega and rillaboom
>delay dnite mega to avoid rillaboom fake out flinch
>opponent delays lucario to avoid my flinch
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>>59602222
This is cool but it just turns him into a shittier Kingambit that wastes a mega slot
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>>59602346
the archaludon problem makes a really strong case for running close combat, because yeah otherwise that guy is a bitch to deal with unless you also have one and get boosting tempo before theirs
idk if it's worth it though cause CC is such bad synergy with pod's bulkiness, probably should just run a sneedler or earth power user
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>>59602349
this just gave me an idea to run mega pod, kingambit, and transform ditto to have three kingambits on the same team
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>>59602084
Anyone please? I want to Disable Electro Shot from Arch and stuff in trick room
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>>59602356
It makes sense to have Kingambit and his little brother Golisopod in the current meta of psyspam indeedees and evil ghost fish because you truly can't have enough juiced up Sucker Punches. So I'd say yeah the Swords Dance set is probably his best one. The ultimate answer though is that Char Y counters all of those things except Armarouge so people will probably be going back to Char Y soon. Probably, anyways
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>>59602351
drill run accomplishes somewhat the same thing without lowering your defenses
also nice to have against electric rats
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>>59602322
>Defog clears terrain
Did not know that but am glad I do now. Thanks anon.
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Trick Room with Infestation Toxapex + a mon with Encore and Disable
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>>59602405
good for gholdengo as well who is otherwise a pain in the ass
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Thoughts on dropping First Impression for Protect or a 4th coverage move? It's saved my Politoed partner from the monkey more than a few times which is the main reason I haven't dropped it (and a few other cases for priority), but wondering if I'll get more value from another move. Currently running FR, Leech, Iron Head and Liquidation (Zheng team)
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frosslass volcarona rillaboom sneasler is a strong core, i went from 1700 to 1900+ tonight because people just let me setup 2+ quiver dances
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It's so funny seeing Mega Salamence teams unravel after Turn 1 because they don't expect the Final Gambit Scarfraptor to kill it
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i think bulk up might be better than swords dance
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>>59602084
Just a sec
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I'm stuck on UB4. Matchups feel like im on MB1. Everyone's getting really good at this
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>>59602356
okay so I actually made this shitpost team
>mega pod
>kingambit
>zoroark
>ditto
>starraptor (only knows final gambit)
>farigiraf (decoy, never brought)

every mon is named gambit and all of them know swords dance and sucker punch, with low kick/iron head/protect sprinkled in

not only is it extremely funny to play this but people in casuals are unironically losing to it, I just beat a guy running charizard and h-typhlosion with it somehow and cant stop laughing, god I wish there were recordings
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>>59602531
*and sneasler
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>>59602530
Ok time to bust out the unpredictable stuff i guess
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>Lucario Z
nasty plot vacuum wave instead of calm mind aura sphere?
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Normal gem sylveon with covet
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Tfw you already have all the mons in that banner
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>>59602603
>>59602603
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>>59602367
What's happening right now is the same thing that happened during MA where Zard teams got the most development because it was #1.
Right now it's Mence. What's funny about mence is that I seldom *fear for Zard while mence is on the field, but Mence's partners are all very dangerous so speed control is everything and that's hard to get when the balance core has fake out on 2-3 mons and Mence can just TW. It's tough to position correctly and getting out of sync is easy.
*Mence doesn't do much with hyper voice and adamant 32 Atk double edge isn't a 1hko either. Weather Ball from Zard does over 50% unless the Mence is particularly bulky.



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