Happy 30 to the games that paved the way for chain combos, air dashing, improved OTGs, anime-style graphics and more
strange that it debut in a July instead of October
>>11085138Is there any reason to play DS1 in current year when DS2 & DS3 exist?
>>11085394Different gameplay I suppose.
>>11085394In general, not much. Worth checking out at least once to see how the series got its start, and to experience the different soundtrack, stage palettes, portraits and such.
>>11085150it's not that strange to release a teen-rated arcade game in the vacation season
Where can i learn to git gut at those old fighters?There is no trials mode and i can only find like, one shitty youtube video teaching the combos of my character.
>>11085880supercombo wiki or the mizuumi wiki will have all the info you needfightcade has training modes and plenty of strong opponents who will beat your ass until you learn to adaptdont expect a gentle learning curve, embrace the grind or quit before you start. getting good at old fighting games isn't for pussies
>>11085891It's just that there is this one Sasquatch that keeps cornering me and raping my ass.
>>11085896Tech hit.
>>11085896that's what sasquatch does. don't get cornered by a sasquatch player learn to pushblock so that you can actually break out if you happen to guess right when defending his oki
>>11086114just say pushblock, calling it "tech hit" is confusing when that means throw break in every other game and it's not a very descriptive term regardless>bu-bu-buh the game calls it tech hitbe less autistic
>>11086157it's called tech hit in the game proper.
>>11086253be less autistic
Akiman has talked about how the cel-shading style came about, and it's a pretty odd and interesting story. It was actually a mandate from higher up (Okamoto) rather than an artistic choice by any of the developers. And Akiman thinks Okamoto might have gotten the idea by looking at placeholder unfinished sprites in previous games that had still had black outlines and flat colors. The whole thing might have been envisioned as a way to streamline graphic production, because the shading on the older Street Fighter 2- style sprites took a lot of time.Akiman was initially opposed to the idea, because he understood that as you decrease the amount of detail in a drawing, the more the fundamentals are laid bare, you become unable to "polish a turd," so to speak. And he was worried that the whole team might not have solid enough figure drawing skills to get away with it. It was around that time that he and some of the other more experienced artists started putting together that in-house anatomy reference book you might have seen featured on the internet (pic related.)And also since this game's whole thing was that it had to prove Capcom could do more than just rerelease SF2, it had to up the visuals. If all they did was get rid of the shading, it would just look like a downgrade. So that's why they went in so hard on increasing the animation quality to compensate. The characters ended up having somewhere between triple to quadruple the amount of animation frames as SF2 characters.The end result, in spite of the simplified shading, ended up taking a lot more time to create than the older SF2 style had. Likely because of the increased amount of frames and more strict attention to figure drawing fundamentals. But it proved to become the foundation of all of Capcom's 2D fighting game sprites from then on.
>>11086305the fuck are you talking about? there is zero cel-shading in darkstalkers
>>11086328Darkstalkers, Marvel, Alpha and SF3 are all cel-shaded. As opposed to the blended, gradiated shading of SF2.
>>11086356no the fuck they are not lolyou must not know what that term means
Man this year is the 30th anniversary of a lot of good games.
>>11086114This shit is unreliable af.
>>11085138I always loved the art style but could never get into the gameplayAlso getting rid of Morrigan's eyebags should be a crime against humanity
>>11085138The games that ruined Street Fighter.
>>11086574git gud, 14f window
>>11086305That’s a very detailed response - where’s the source for it?
>>11086269be less sociopathic
>>11086574legitimately get good, learn to piano your buttons>>11086741there is nothing sociopathic about insisting people use terms that make sense at first glance instead of autistically clinging to "proper terminology" that is not self-evident.you are retarded.
>>11086895you are sociopathic masquerading as normal
>>11085138Turbo mode ruins the pace of Darkstalkers. Turns it into spastic garbage.
>>11087343you're retarded failing to masquerade as anything else.
>>11086485No, it's apparent that you do not anon.
moving on how would a modern take on the game work?
>>11087641It'd just be slower, less spammy MVC.
>>11087659sounds good.genuinely>>11086597it is a shame.
>>11087636you're retarded if you think any of those games are cel-shaded
they need to make a new fighting game series. Street Fighter can only go so far
Lei-Lei is underrated.
>>11087707Felicia also has them there
>>11086734Various statements from Akiman online. This is the longest and most thorough Tweet he's made on the subject: https://x.com/akiman7/status/1676456130757931008
>>11087659Darkstalkers has never had a combo system anything like MvC though. Or teams, for that matter.
>>11088665>Darkstalkers has never had a combo system anything like MvC though.wrong
>>11089064It doesn't though. It's SF2's combo system with chain combos added. You can't even cancel into specials or supers from chains. Most supers can't be comboed into even if you do cancel into them. You also can't cancel specials into supers (which again wouldn't really matter even if you could, since most of the supers wouldn't combo anyway.) Juggles are extremely few and far between, and the ones that exist have strict hit limits on them. The only OTGs are dedicated moves that can only be tacked onto the end of a combo, not extend it. They really are nothing alike.
>>11088664
>>11086485you’re the one that doesn’t know, retard anon
I've been trying to 1CC Vampire Hunter AKA Darkstalkers 2 and I've been having a lot of difficulty. I've been using Morrigan and Sasquatch so far, and I've yet to make it past stage seven.Any thoughts on what characters I should try/how to play them? All advice is welcome.
>>11088665>>11089117The guy wasn't saying how Darkstalkers plays compared to MVC2, he is saying how a modern Darkstalkers game would play. Like it or not, all that cancelling, air combo, whatever, has been a mainstream of fighting games and would be expected from a new DS game.In that vein, the closest we have to how a modern DS game would work is Skullgirls (before it got censored).
>>11085394Basically DS1 is to DS2 what Street Fighter Alpha is to SFA2.Although DS1 does have a few unique quirks, like the super meter's "time limit".
>>11089719use it or lose it
>>11085858>stage palettesthere's also the Saturn port of Vampire Hunter / Night Warriors, which has a secret code to customize the soundtrack and stage palette to that of DS1, however, the stage palette isn't actually 1:1 with DS1, so it's more like a new unique version
>>11085138SNES homebrew one dayhttps://x.com/HUnewearlXZR/status/1565550188495745024
>>11088242>>11087641Nun Felicia for smash bros fighter pass.
>>11089405Not every game has to play the same. Besides, nowadays there are hardly any "middle of the road" fighters like Darkstalkers, so it would be filling an empty niche.
Eating ice cream with Lilith
>>11092150Apparently some of those come from the beta versions of Hunter, some early screenshots in Gamest magazine seem to match up with a few of them.
>>11092924-cum
>>11085394it's the fucking hardest arcade ladder to beat, so it's cool for a challenge. fuck, the inputs are way more strict compared to the other two and huitzil and pyron are motherfuckers.
>>11093387I believe those motion inputs are part of the reason we never got a new game
Talbain is so under used outside of gay porn.
>>11094115It's only the very first game that had weird inputs, the next two were mostly the same as the Street Fighter and Marvel games of the time. So that doesn't have anything to do with it.
>>11094552Morrigan and Anakaris had Darkness Illusion-type (from which the Shun Goku Satsu is based on) inputs and Demiti had bizzaro-Shoryuken inputs for his Ex Moves
>>11094416I play Darkstalkers with my uncle and Talbain is one of his favorites to use.I don't mind fighting him.
Pour one out for the nigguhz that didn't make it.
>>11089405>Skullgirls (before it got censored).the fuck? skullgirls never got censored
>>11097124>skullgirls never got censoredLol, lmao even.
>>11097204legitimately what the fuck got censoredmore to the point how did it affect gameplay such that skullgirls could have been considered a modern darkstalkers game prior to the alleged censorship
>>11097208>Bender laughing.gifBig bands entire backstory built around police brutality was censored, because showing police brutality is offensive.The Egrets armbands were censored, because an explicitly nazi themed paramilitary group vaguely resembling nazis is offensive.Panty shots were (lazily) censored, because a game they advertised with coom bait having panty shots in it is offensive.For gods sake, they went back and censored the art book, because acknowledging the people who actually built and grew the game is offensive.
>>11097115the original characters were pretty cool
>>11097115>>11097225Was Sonson supposed to also be a Vampire pitch or just a reference to the old arcade game?
>>11085138It has been a while. A shame the MT framework engine does not work with modern hardware, so I hope Capcom takes the effort in making a new sequel in that RE engine that got all the praise for all the other reboots they've made.
>>11097267>filenameMrs. Marble Table!!!?
>>11097221who gives a fuck about literally any of this?how does any of this affect gameplay whatsoever?if you're that desperate for panty shots I guarantee there are better ways to see them than blink-and-you-miss-it single frames in a fighting game
>>11097324>it didn't happen>it doesn't matter that it happened>why do you care that it happenedGet a life.
>>11097242probably this https://capcom.fandom.com/wiki/SonSon
>>11097354Yeah that's the old arcade game I mentioned, but I wonder if the new character (a girl, supposedly the original sonson's grandaughter?) was pitched for Vampire series
>>11097331>get a life>like me, who is upset about missing panty shots
>>11097387>be wrong>get proven wrong>try and deflect and "win" the argument for 4 hoursYes, get a life.
>>11097417>get a life>like me who is upset about getting trolled on 4chan
>>11097443>I was being retarded on purposeYou should probably get a job to.
>>11097454I bring home six figures as it is. what would I need another job for?
>>11097547have sex
>>11098032are we just telling each other to do commonplace daily shit now? eat dinner.
>>11098082>implying you have sex at all
>>11098090I fuck my wife more or less every day, unless she's on her period.what are we doing here exactly? don't you have some pantyshots to go sperg out about?
>>11098092have sex
>>11098032>>11098090>>11098121
>>11098121eat dinner, brush your teeth
>>11098148get a new line
>>11098157you first
>>11094862Not like there's any shortage of Akuma players out there, so I don't think Raging Demon inputs are a problem. Inverse DP also isn't a difficult input, just an uncommon one.
>>11098136>>11098157>>11098090Futa Friday
Thoughts on blonde Morrigan?And for that matter, thoughts on the Hunter default palettes?
>>11098585Behave yourself
>>11098602as a succubus, she seems to be the type to magically alter her hair color for fun, i like it. i actually really like her one color that makes her hair a light blue. as for the rest>blue aura demitrihardly a difference between his normal colors and this one. i like his original color a lot more though since i think the yellow red aura makes him pop out more.>brown talbainhe's a brown wolf instead of a grey one. i'm down, switching one natural color for the other for the more beastly character is pretty cool. >red vest victorit's aight. i'm actually a victor fan and i'm personally more of a fan of the green skin color.>red raptoreh, i like him with blue skin more>red morrigani always thought it was weird she was blonde in the intro but her default color has her normal hair color. i like it either way, she looks good in red. >green anakarisinstant classic. honestly the game i have the most experience with is the psp one and anakaris is commonly the first opponent in the arcade ladder and he always had the green palette. and i am realizing while typing this, a lot, if not all of the default palettes in hunter are the ones used by the AI in the arcade ladder for the psp game. this one i remember this most though since he's usually always one of the first opponents.>aqua hair feliciawtf where'd the tan go>blue bishamonnot the biggest fan. bishamon is another one of my favorite characters, and i think this might be his weakest color.>red rikuoit aight but he looks best in "cool" colors imo>PISSquatchsince this nigga is always top tier, having super saiyan colors suits him>white huitzili like it. this dude looks great in any color though.>blue pyronstylish as fuck. and like huitzil, he just looks good in any color.>green donovanhe's green in the intro, so i'll include this. this is my favorite color for him. >red hsien-kodoing this so she isn't left out and it's the HK color, which is everyone else's og default. cute, looks dignified.
>>11098821great breakdown.you know one color I absolutely ADORE for Felicia in vsav? her red clothes/fur
>>11100250My favorite Felicia alt is the hot pink hair, tan skin, cream fur one she's had since DS1. I always use that one when I play as her.
>>11098602I do find it interesting that some of the Hunter defaults made their way into other media. Cartoon Victor uses the orange coat color scheme, and both the cartoon and the OVA use white/silver Huitzil.
>>11085138What happened?https://www.sankakucomplex.com/2022/07/05/capcom-fighting-collection-censors-sexy-secret-ending/
>>11100665they removed the art of naked lilith and morrigan hugging each other. but that art only exists in vsav2 and literally no one cares about that game.
>kills everyone>refuses to elaborate
>>11102053https://youtu.be/-rbPNfbIyOM >has unique credits music and it is the best
>>11102053Yeah, I'm pretty sure there is no official lore on this guy. I think he's just as big a mystery to everyone in universe as he is to us. I do know that the guy who animated Anakaris designed him.
How do we save Darkstalkers
>>11103054Add the princess from Cyberbots as a guest character
>>11103054i don't think it can be done. it's a niche series and games are so expensive to make now so capcom is only interested in making things they know will sell a ton. they used to do the carrot and stick treatment to us by saying "if this game sells well enough, we'll make another darkstalkers" and they haven't even done that for a while. there is the capcom fighting collection at least... but i still want a modern port of the dreamcast or ps2 version. those are the ones that let you play as all the characters in one game.
Has anyone ripped the art from any of these Capcom collections yet?
>>11103054Play the games. Tell other people to play the games.
>>11103054theres a reason why street fighter was successful and darkstalkers wasnt
>>1110327640,000 arcade boards sold on the first game alone and top 5 of the yearly arcade income charts three games in a row is not unsuccessful by any stretch of the imagination.
>>11097221political "correctness" sucks
>>11097387>>11097208>>11097124Stfu back resetera, newfags
Anyone planning on participating in the Vortex Gallery tournaments this fall?
>>11106753Me
>>11108112He should get that green saliva checked out.
Last time I liked a cast of characters as much as Darkstalkers was in Anarchy Reigns.Anarchy Reigns x Darkstalkers WHEN
Supposedly the first Darkstalkers was in development for two years, which is pretty long for a game back then. And an entire three months was spent just on the character designs.
