Thoughts on this as a format for video games back in the day?
>>11110165360kb out to be enough for anyone
Kino, soulful, redpilled, etcetera...
>so much soul they’re still used as an icon to this dayI kneel
>>11110165Famicom Disk System was cool
the disc is floppy but my junk isnt
>install game>insert Disc 2 out of 16
>>11110165Unreliable, slow and noisy.Also, they're the reason why WinRAR (just a RAR back then) implemented recovery volumes which could fill in for any damaged/missing floppy in a set.By the way, that dent on the side of the floppy in the middle makes it "read only" if a patch of a scotch tape is put over it. The 3.5" floppies have a physical switch in the corner for that. No idea if the big floppies had this functionality at all.
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>>11110165they sure beat cassettes
We had an XT clone for about 10 years, from 87 to 96ish before buying am absurdly decked out 200Mhz Pentium media center PC, went straight from from DD 5.25 floppies to CDs. Played a lot of stuff off of Big Blue Disks and old Shareware bought at shows and stores.
>>11110293The NTSC/PAL split in gaming libraries on Commodore 64 caused by Americans having disk drives and Europeans being limited to cassettes is honestly one of the most interesting things in gaming history.
>>11110513>and Europeans being limited to cassettesI knew several others with a c64 and (except for 1) they all had a diskdrive.Not sure what you are on about.
>>11110165I still have a lot of boxes of the stuff. Most of the drives that ebay lists as working, are not really working.
Quite possibly the only format I've never seen any nostalgia for.Maybe some kind of fearful respect, like the kind of respect you'd show toward a sewage treatment plant diver, but not nostalgia.
>>11110513>>11110536I think it was mostly in the UK where they didn't have disk drives. But since a lot of European game devs were Bongs, a lot of the Euro games were made with the tape drive in mind. Whereas very few had tape drives in the US, so American games could be more tailored for disks.
>>11110536A massive amount of games were made in Europe under conditions that they must be playable from a cassette, so games had to fit entirely into ram and preferably have no loads after booting (and there were games which asked you to rewind the tape to load). This caused a massive shift in game developing philosophies, preferring action games over RPGs and strategies which were common among American computer gamers.
copy that floppy
>>11110165Brilliant. Loads games in seconds rather than tapes which took minutes. Revolutionary.
Didn't disks also have astronomical load times?
>>11111223Not as astronomical as tapes, but it depends on what you compare to.The C64 had a very slow disk drive and could almost take up to a minute to load in worst case, and might have contributed to it being less popular than the Apple II in the US. But that was still blazing fast compared to the cassette drive:https://youtu.be/09JT0w1WTkM?feature=shared&t=205And "modern" 3.5 inch floppies on a PC in the 90s could of course be read even faster (relatively).
>>11111284could've*
>>11111287no, in this case I really meant could ofverification not required
>>11111284A lot of the C64 disk slowness was inefficient software. There are substitute system ROMS that are quite quick.
>>11110165They were slow and games exceeded its size that I remember a lot of time utilizing pkzip to multiple discs for backups. As a broke kid, I remember drilling holes in single density discs to be able to format them as high double density discs. It was said that would reduce their lifespan, but for when I needed it, they never failed me and doubling the capacity for half the price was worth it, but I doubt parents would allow their kids to play with drills these days. They were wonderfully cheap so people would buy a pack and just give you a disc, which made "borrowing" games so simple. They'd mail out all sorts of free discs to you, like AOL, and all that was needed was a simple reformat if you'd cover the other hole to disable write protection. All the holes did was allow a light to shine through which defined those properties. I'm so glad that 32GB USB sticks and SDcards are finally affordable now, which is so much better for games.
>>11110165Hell yeah, motherfucker
>>11110165
>>11110513It's another big reason why NTSC and PAL regions for video game boards should be segregated.
>>11110536It's common knowledge that Europeans as a majority could not afford disk drives and that's why the vast majority of their game software was sold on cassette tape.
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>>11111798Aaaaaahhhhhhhh
>>11111810>… No-no, don't touch me thereThis is my no-no square
>>11111798that's a tiny ass fridge
>>11111817Europe / Germany They have tiny fridges.
>>11111798Saved
>>11111810
basedsome of my earliest and best gaming memories are of dos shareware I bought on 3.5 floppies from the dollar store
>>11110610Because they were unreliable especially with ho people treated them. I've unironically had more luck backing up tapes than I have with disks due to mold, but I guess people just better understood the fragility of tape media back in the day. Probably not as big an issue from drier areas of the world, but apparently they don't produce games.
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>>11111810it's kinda funny how they had to put this in almost every diskette cover, and always with those five languages. like why would people even do some of those things. but then again >>11111798
>>11111987>do it gentlyumm... w-why does she have her computer under a cover?
>>11110165Better than tapes.
>>11110165It's what we had. It worked. If a game came on multiple disks, you knew you were in for something epic. Though most action games only took 1/4-1/3 of one side of the floppy.
>>11113562Sorry, can't hear you over my drive going tak, tak, tak,....
>>11111810https://archive.org/details/floppy_sleeves_winter_frost_collection/mode/2up
Slow, clunky and fragile but arguably pretty kewl. I don't think I really thought much about them back in the day since they were just business as usual instead of the novelty that they are today. There's also just very little reason to use them these days when there are so many other options from cf cards to whatever that you can transfer files with. I do love the sounds and feel of the drives though. Very kino as they say.
>>11114272the laser beam coming from the forehead lets you know that it remembers. it remembers everything.
>>11114298There's just so few things in our everyday lives that go "kachunk" when you plug them in these days and I hate it.
>>11110165What's the point of these dumb fuckign threads.What does a zoomer get out of trying to ask spastic questions about a point in time it can never understand?What are you doing, rooting around for ideas for your next youtube 30-minute video essay for your 5 subscribers?
>>11114272
>>11114402Why are you so angry? people here are reminiscing old times and you come here like an elephant entering a crystal store. You have issues.
