DOOM THREAD / RETRO FPS THREAD - Last thread: >>11290838Doom/Quake/Duke/Heretic/Hexen/Unreal/Sam/Half-Life/etcGameplay, WADs/Maps/Mods, Source PortsAll other 90s FPS welcome~ Let's post like gentlemen ~FAQ/GENERAL GUIDEhttps://rentry.org/vrbinSO YOU WANT TO PLAY SOME FUCKING DOOM(or Quake, Duke, Marathon, Deus Ex)https://imgur.com/a/wWS8zXzSame thing, in video format:https://youtu.be/ietb4JwaaXAhttps://youtu.be/DhOjleMqwdQhttps://youtu.be/CGj4gXyCzg0== GAMES/RESOURCES ==DOOM Quickstart (IWADs etc): https://mediafire.com/file/wuniyrhsjjgq4y8QUAKE Trilogy FAQ: https://pastebin.com/Ucb11XhUPortaDOOM:https://github.com/Kroc/PortaDOOM/releasesDOOM Shovelware:https://drive.google.com/open?id=1Xy-YDWytlEa2CS9rit-PUgcieh4MrGzRHALF-LIFE (GoldSrc) Anthology:https://mega.nz/file/GRUCGbAY#RhOiqxnf7UPOiXcJNbRh-prKIEVRhjJaEpAkt34lyZg4CHAN DOSPACK + Win98 games (pre-configured):https://mega.nz/#F!3t8nzSIS!947kyMN6Z80f8HS7q2XlqAAssorted /vr/ shooters, mods, etc:https://mega.nz/#F!QXIk1bjB!NHRWGIfjcc77PyGgRlga4Qhttps://mega.nz/#F!GtEQTISJ!CCJGyPEEEsZasc1PMXicUAhttps://drive.google.com/open?id=1ppJLNvQEPfP4FsOCQBak1TMvPUIswCac== INFO/LINKS ==OFFICIAL DOOM WIKIhttps://doomwiki.org/WHERE TO FIND WADSVanilla/Boom: https://doomworld.com/forum/4-wads-mods/ZDoom: https://forum.zdoom.org/viewforum.php?f=19/idgames: https://doomworld.com/idgames/MODDING RESOURCEShttps://forum.zdoom.org/viewforum.php?f=37https://realm667.com/== /VR/DOOM COMMUNITY ==THREAD ARCHIVEShttps://desuarchive.org/vr/search/text/%22doom%20thread%22/type/op/MULTIPLAYER SERVERSFPS (Rolling schedule): http://clovr.xyz/SRB2Kart: https://pastebin.com/gPdytB18OUR WADS/MODShttps://rentry.org/vrdepotMAKING NEW THREADS PROPERLYhttps://pastebin.com/8mDnrsrBIMAGE/WAD DATABASEhttps://vrdoom.booru.org/http://clovr.xyz/wadsup/
=== CURRENT PROJECT ===/Vertex Relocation/ PHASE 2IWAD : Doom 2 | Format : BoomRULES AND CLAIMED SLOTS : https://pastebin.com/CrVTqGvrBETA V4 : https://files.catbox.moe/s4aonf.wad=== CURRENT RELEASE ===Fore/vr/ Alonehttp://clovr.xyz/wadsup/doku.php?id=fore_vr_alone=== NEWS ===[10-9] Tetanus DX released and the Tetanus texture set is now free to usehttps://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/148612-tetanus-dx-the-definitive-tetanus-experience/[10-6] International Doom 8.0 releasedhttps://github.com/JNechaevsky/international-doom/releases/tag/8.0[10-5] Duake(Doom weapon in Quake) Releasedhttps://www.moddb.com/mods/duake/downloads/duake[10-5] DBP68 Releasedhttps://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/9znzpf35mnybgdra6nztf/DBP68_RC1.3.zip?rlkey=oezfhxl9nzk8f0t7sxtvo9ljj&st=k55l6emf&dl=1[10-5] Quake 2 PSX mod released for Kex Quake 2https://www.moddb.com/mods/quake-ii-psx/downloads/quake-ii-psx-10[10-3] Dark Forces' Heart of the Matter releasedhttps://df-21.net/downloads/levels/hotm/[10-3] Update 1 for the Nightdive port is outhttps://store.steampowered.com/news/app/2280/view/4675389307867623088[10-1] Blood: What Lies Beneath has been releasedhttps://moddb.com/mods/blood-what-lies-beneath[10-1] Eviternity 2 has gone finalhttps://eviternity.dfdoom.com/[9-29] Fore/vr/ Alone is on idgames![9-28] Doom comic-inspired gameplay wadhttps://doomworld.com/forum/topic/146746[9-26] Hell Frontier megawad now has a release candidatehttps://doomworld.com/forum/topic/148356[9-26] Maria no Jigoku has been releasedhttps://doomworld.com/forum/topic/145951[9-24] Sandy interview on Doomworldhttps://doomworld.com/forum/topic/148308[9-23] Half-Life 1 pre-release buildhttps://archive.org/details/nettest-2[9-13] Monster Sounds EX, expanded Doom monster SFXhttps://youtu.be/ceAamYSdfqc=== PREVIOUS ===https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-vrTgPGmlLwdO5VHHCJMxmRD05E6XlNmqHIN8aykRG0TO SUBMIT NEWS, REPLY TO THIS POST (ideally with the [mm-dd] date bracket)
>>11301853Well said.
Is Romero's Doom 2 wad coming out tomorrow, or is he going to wait for Doom 1's 31st? He hasn't shown anything for it as far as I can tell.
>>11301891I wouldn't hold my breath. Sigil 2 was released less than a year ago. Realistically I'd expect Hellion's release on 2028.
>>11301891Hasn't he done some making for it on stream, or was that only sigil 2?One humanity was a map for his d2 project tho.
>>11301853>play mods fun cool>revenant campaign>hard half suck>saw ass>demons feels
>>11301954>picAwesome idea. That’s also a pretty decent mug.I’m trying to work on Unreal again or another DS run, but I can’t decide between Babel and HD monsters.>SK8PNI’ve got a webm for that.
>>11301954>revenant campaignI'm getting an idea of a /vr/ project, where you play as a revenant.t. ideas guy
>>11301964>every time you die an archvile bro resurrects you
>MAP26: A Beautiful Day in the Neighborhood? (1994 Tune-up Community Project)Really starting to flag now.
>>11301963I'm probably not gonna play them with this, but for some reason I was compelled to make them both playable on it anyway. Spent basically all of yesterday on it. A good portion of it was trying to figure out where and how I wanted to arrange the keys in sbarinfo.
>>11301954>saw ass
Literalism is a weird wad. I get that community projects have varying quality, but never have I seen such a gaping amount of quality differences. Some of the maps would fit into same category with the best bunch of Eviternity maps and some are like joke maps out of Mock 2. I feel bad for the mappers who gave their best for this.
>>11301997
>>11301980Finally past it.
I don't know if this is an issue specific to Nugget, but sometimes in Ad Mortem when I'm holding fire on the SSG and it runs out of ammo, I just lose the ability to pull out weapons ever again.
i sat here for like 5 minutes while stoned and watching someone map and i tried to explain a fight idea that popped into my head, and it involved me spending another 5 minutes drawing out what i was trying to explain before sending them this really scuffed diagram of what i was trying to say was a pendant shapewhat i said instead?
>>11302009As the creator of map 18, I apologize
>>11302257That's weird. Try reporting it in the release thread and hope Vaeros sees it? I don't know for sure but he seems like he's gonna do the last stuff on it this Halloween.
>>11302385>tauntSeems more like an invitation to me.
>ChainfistIs it only useful against guards? I managed to kill a gladiator with it in melee but it doesn't seem like it has a lot of stopping power.
>>11301880chef elzar?
>>11302510Yeah, it’s not too crazy through the original GZ. I think mods like Citadel give it a damage boost, and KexQuake2 makes it still hitstun enemies even on hard+.
>>11302420it's a Russian taunt
Are the pak files for the original game and the mission packs (SoA/DoE) from Kex-Quake compatible with source ports?I've noticed so far that I haven't come across any enemies missing, and that seems pretty nice.>>11302385Model link?That's Outer Base, isn't it?
>>11301880He's the most intimidating boss, especially with how fast he sprints at you.
>>11302612Not many places still host the model, I see it on tastyspleen's model lis,. Though that one is pretty bare bones. I just zipped up the model, a few skins and the sounds I have for her and tossed the file on catbox for you.https://files.catbox.moe/o5mx14.zip
>>11301838some of you guys are alright, don't go to mars tomorrow
>>11302691>Don't worry, they'll get their product.
I'm really enjoying TNT: Evilution. I think I only ever played Plutonia in the past, but this is great.
It's time for Wednesday Night Wipeout!Come play some SRB2Kart!How to join (The short and easy way):Download the All-in-one repack: https://mega.nz/file/N3kwhCDL#lRuLVeECG3pB_gJWhUZo1Zhp7agcBPYjhlR3ZJKf5n4Extract it to its own folder (NOT the desktop or program files)Run "SRB2Kart-Neptune (Connect to vrkart).bat" and wait for any missing files to download in-gameDO NOT run "srb2kart.exe" and expect to be able to join the server.If you don't have a 64-bit machine/OS for whatever reason: Copy the contents of the 32-bit folder into the main folderHow to join (The longer and harder way):Download version 1.6 of the game: https://github.com/STJr/Kart-Public/releases/download/v1.6/srb2kart-v16-Installer.exeGet the custom client we use: https://github.com/NepDisk/srb2k-neptune/releases/tag/Neptune2.3Get the mods: https://mega.nz/folder/MiUiESSa#CyovwTUnO9TSmqbwMI1xBgConnect to 51.161.34.159 (either use connect in console or "specify ipv4 address" under Multiplayer)>I HAVE TO BITCH FAST AND TEXT CHAT TOO SLOWWe also have a Mumble server!Address: 51.161.34.159 (same as the game server)Port: defaultPassword: endoom>I heard this game supports proximity chat, are we using that?No.Pro tips: https://pastebin.com/YV6biqxq(This is out of date and written for a different server, but it still has a lot of useful information.)Recent Changes:Added BigO Maps v4.0New sounds for Dominations
>>11302707>dat technology>no hair-loss fix>no eye fix
>>11303040An uncanny feline, I fear him.
>>11301838What's your favorite spooky mod? HL, Doom, Quake, Blood, anything
>>11302707>When you play Doom 3 OG version on minimum settings.
>>11303135Legacy Of Suffering, Unloved, Unloved 2, Cold As Hell, Happy Time Circus and Happy Time Circus and Soundless Mound are all very cool. I usually prefer boom/vanilla stuff, but these are great wads.
>>11303135The HL mod where you beat the shit out of zombies with a rolled up umbrella.
There are so many damn megawads now. The amount of megawads is just too damn high. It's more fun to just watch them on youtube instead of playing them.
>>11303169There's no reason to play all of them, just check out the ones you think you would enjoy playing.
>>11302746Oh yeah please oversaturate my bandwidth yeah that's the stuff
>>11303239No, they should stop making megawads so I can catch up
>>11303169this but videogames
>>11303169>>11303306Seeking out new things constantly is gay, and the sign of a simple mind. I prefer to obsess over a small group of things I consider perfect and squeeze every last bit of depth and knowledge from them that I can.
>>11303308Anon you're just describing autism-based hyper-fixations
this has never been topped
>>11303313
>>11303313I see no problem with this. Nothing good ever came from men who didn't obsess over small things.
Are there any other mods similar to Aphrodite? Basically just a neat reskin for Doomguy so the vanilla gameplay remains 100% unchanged. I like all the cool characters that usually come along with gameplay mods, but I quickly go back to vanilla after playing them for a few minutes. This is the perfect middle ground for me.
>>11303330I never said there was a problem with it, I do take a problem with>Seeking out new things constantly is gayJust sounds really sheltered
>>11303169>now
>>11303308You don't have seek new wads. You find them without even seeking if you stay in touch with the community.
>>11303169There's insane amount of very good wads and especially megawads released this year. Just found Road To Hades, Hispanic Community Project and Dominus Diabolicus. All of them very enjoyable stuff.
>>11302746oh shit ggs
>>11302407It's not even the worst map. It's actually kind of funny.
>>11302746ggs
>>11302746GGs
>>11303412what did you FREAKS do to my robot
Exploit this image.
>>11303498Hard mode: no tranny edits
>>11303498
>>11303503>>11303509
>>11303498don't limit yourselves to just object labeling though
>>11303524ah man I fucked up by putting the shine on that "a" too low.
>>11303519>trust nobody, not even yourself
If you were to learn Quake duel all over again, how would you do it?
>>11303563You just plan a route that coincides with all the important pick ups respawning
>>11303524Could've sworn there was a cornucopia behind too
>>11303509Map21 Nirvana
>>11303635How am I just now figuring out they're holding meat cleavers?
>>11302041This map was kickass. Fletcher` is a really good mapper.
>>11303756wow, it's literally me
>>11303332Skel made OHM, it started off life as just a reskin but got some neat additions along the way.>https://skelegant.itch.io/one-hell-of-a-marineI might take a crack at making something like those myself. Won't be as polished but it'll definitely be an option.
>>11303797Lol
>>11303808It's pretty sad that she got somebody complaining that she's not doing enough Decorate-based mods in the comment section of this https://skelegant.itch.io/eraser-weaponsThe sort of dehacked renaissance period we've been getting has been really cool.
>>11303894When id24 gets implemented on source ports, you can expect dozens of dehacked weapon mods.
>>11303903That's a big fucking "when" since it's not even feature complete on it's flagship port.
>>11303894Yeah, while I do sorta miss that era of Skelegant I can't say Aphrodite, Typhon 2, Black Magwell, OHM and even Eraser Weapons are boring or not bringing enough to the table. It seems like she really found her calling with dehacked and I'm all for it, I'm happy I got her interested in it while I was working on Eraser desu.>>11303903Eh, I doubt it. While Doom Tools is nice, having to compile your decohack into a dehacked file through is just something of an entry barrier for some reason and GZ still reigns supreme when it comes to modsding even if a good chunk of the mods coming out for it these days are just soulless zscript tech demos.If WhackEd4 does get proper support for MBF21's dehacked features, which Gez seems interested in, we might see more of these pop off. What the other anon asked for was just a graphics patch and you hardly need anything of the sort to make one.
>>11303948Woof developer is already implementing the weapon parts of it.
>>11303903More weapon and ammo types is what has me most excited about id24. If only it could keep track of an ammo type different to the one you have active. That would allow for custom inventories.
>>11304095Blursed
>>11304095>I am an artist. An Escape Artist
>>11304095>not putting Billy's head on the guardso close to greatness
>>11304626>Oh jeez, I'm 33 now! Where did I put my dentures? What's that? I'm a little deaf in this ear...Doomguy is presumably in his 20s right? Mid-late 20s maybe? BJ as well probably?
>>11304626Gold.
I haven't played HD in a while, when did they remove the bible passages from the powerups?
>>11304716When they were reworked into shield generators instead of holy protection.
>>11304725Ah fairCould have sworn the megaspheres had them as wellWhatever, it was a minor detail
>>11304727That's because megaspheres have always simply been a soulsphere + armor bonus (in the really old days, free black armor; then spiritual armor when that was implemented; now a shield core).
1. Some people were talking about amc squad here and I decided to check it. I am now stuck at the dracula castle stage underwater section, I have no idea where to go or what to do. I simply run out of air in the water and I been through the castle like 10 times already and can't seem to find anything to help 2. Does build have an iddt equivalent or anything to help finding secrets on the map?
>>11304649your life is practically over once you hit 30, the world belongs to teenagers and people full of youth (20's.)
>>11304814No. Your 30s are just when people realize the clock's ticking and start to cut the things from their lives that are asinine or trivial, if they haven't already been doing so. That and a 30-whatever is at the perfect blend of life-experience-and-a-youthful-enough-body to be a very efficient human being. BUT THAT'S NOT ABOUT RETRO FPS, IS IT?Oh, wait. IT IS. DooM is in its 30's. Doom in 2024 has so much content. All that...experience...from...living more than 3 decades...sounds kinda good, don't it?
The whispering in Ad Mortem is driving me insane
>>11305112Those are the imps in the wall.
>>11305112Maybe it's bias from it being a 4chan production, but I swear that two of the words in that ambience are sneed and chuck.
>>11304649As somone soon turning 33, I can confirm that this is 100% accurate.
i keep getting an intermission bug where the fade effect glitches out and everything gets fucked and nothing displayswhat dolzdoom btw
>>11301839To anyone who's into Shut Up and Bleed, Potetobloke reuploaded a bunch of his weapon add-ons for it.>https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=60347
>>11305112That's because it's some shitty ass freesounds crap instead of pulling it from some horror game - Penumbra has a really nice whispering ambient that appears often through the storyStill, it's not that important to the wad so I get why no one bothered
Doing a 64 map in case we ever get that projectIt's a pretty fun engine
>>11301839New version of MAP16: Suburban Heat Island, by aan. Hopefully this is a little less obtuse and more easily navigable. Please let me know what you guys think of the changes, and if anyone has any suggestions I'm all ears.https://files.catbox.moe/70ohbj.wad
>>11302531Kex(Kek)
>>11301954What wad is this?
>>11305398ASMR in general just irritates the hell out of me
>>11303135Project Horror for Doom
Does such a thing as Doom 64: Maps Only version exists?I want to play the levels with default or custom Doom PC weapons, items, and monsters. I can live without the Unmaker. Maybe I would keep the Mother Demon.
>>11305456I liked the beavis and butthead bit on ithttps://youtu.be/hBe7IV4hpig
>>11305402I still find it incredible that at now we have an official pc doom64 iwad and that we can make pwads for it.
>>11305443>>11301982Looks like Hellforged with Heretic and Hexen.>>11305462https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=55298This might be what you're looking for? There's a version of PSX Doom there that's stripped down as well.
>>11305462Doom 64 for Doom II. The OG monsters are all the same except the motherdemon (who replaces the spiderdemon) and the nightmare imp (I think he replaces the Icon of Sin or the SS soldier).
>>11305462Well there is Doom 64 For Doom 2 megawad. Since it's for vanilla there is no Unmaker and maps are in bit different slots, but it does have Nightmare Imp and Mother Demon.
>>11305456>ASMR For the most part, I'd rather listen to or watch such stuff instead of either content farm videos, or Zgroom forums.
>>11304009>having to compile your decohack into a dehacked file through is just something of an entry barrier for some reason I think the bigger barrier is that it's still DeHacked and that DeHacked simply still sucks even when you add a few more things to it and remove the frame and thing limits.
>>11305487>>11305491>>11305493Thank you /vr/others, going to check on those.
>>11305112wdym? there's no whispering in ad mortem
>>11305583Don't do this to me
>>11305585Do what?
On the topic of Doom 64>>11301839[10-10] Doom 64 Unseen Evil released, adds missing enemies and 64-ifies Doom 1 and 2 levelshttps://pyspy.neocities.org/d64ue/
>>11304626BJ looks like Captain Murphy from Sealab.
>>11305595
>>11305595>making the shotgun lever-actionI love it when mods do this.
But seriously though, what did Danny actually win?
>>11303330Russ Meyer obsessed over big things, and he made boob kino. Therefore you're wrong. q.e.d.
>>11305456>whispering = ASMRI won't call you a retard, despite you certainly deserving it, but I advise you to get off the internet now and actually touch grass.
>>11305443>>11305487Yep. Playable with the Semi-Universal Raven Patch but for Hexen I copied over the stuff from High Noon Drifter because I think it does it better.
>>11305112>>11305585>>11305618https://youtu.be/HAnXIIv5He8?si=3A8tX4BGe8U-Y480&t=8
>>11305595That's coold but I feel they didn't go far enough in making the Doom 2 monsters in the 64 style.
>>11305595this is sick
>>11305609Lever-action is underrated in general.Fast, simple, can keep the gun against your shoulder while your supporting hand holds the front of it steady (unlike with pump-action), and if you have a large lever loop you can flip-cock it, which looks badass.
>>11305573If you think Dehacked sucks you just don't know how to use it and/or have not used anything but GZ.
>>11305656>not used anything but GZ.This must be at least like 3/4 of doom players now. I saw some comment on Suplice steam page about it not having jumping like Brutal Doom.
>>11305656I have used it, and it does suck. The fact that DecoHack exists is a gigantic admission that DeHacked is shit because it's prefaced with a pseudo-Decorate front just to make sense of it.DeHacked should never have been developed further, it should only have stayed at strictly the vanilla level, so that a sensible coding language could have been used for mid-level ports instead, which could perhaps be a stripped down Decorate (and I don't mean DecoHack), or something else entirely.Behind the scenes, DeHacked is a bunch of retarded Rube Goldberg bullshit, where trying to add to it is massively fucking bothersome, hence why devs groan about trying to add more features to it.
>>11305661Supplice is a fucking GzDoom mod, why doesn't it have jumping?
>>11305669I assume the devs didn't design the maps with jumping in mind, so it was probably disabled.
>>11305669Because GZDoom has the commercial license but they wanted to make something like a limit-removing megawad like BTSX, Eviternity etc from that era.
>>11305661I don't mind what port people use but I think I'll never make anything for GZ, honestly. Zandronum, sure, but not GZ. Too many idiots use it and think everything else is worthless.By the way, if you feel like being silly you can cockblock GZtards by putting a scrolling texture special before a switch.>>11305668Cry about it. Go back Brutal HDoom MyHouse Warfare, tourist.
>>11305668Dehacked is cool and there's cool wads that use it. Decorate and zscript are cool and there's cool wads/mods that use them. Stop trying to stir up this gzdoom vs the world shit again. I use nugget/woof for vanilla/boom/mbf wads and gzdoom for gzdoom wads and mods. Just like I use zandronum, legacy or eternity for some stuff that is made for them. All ports are good.
>>11305682Good post.>>11305679So out of curiosity, what have you made thus far?
>>11305679Not him, but MyHouse from the listed is actually good. Sure it lured some retards to play Doom, but not as much as br00tal d00m.
>>11305668Was dehacked ever meant to be edited by hand? Decohack is great because it allows you to make dehacked stuff without needing to worry about any sort of UI.
>>11303519Online Multiplayer for Wolfenstein 3D would be sick.>>11303563Thanks for reminding me that I still gotta play Quake.>>11305456>Whispering = ASMR Are you retarded anon? Go touch grass and fuck off.>>11305656I'm not the anon you are bitching at but I have never made a mod before so how the fuck do I know about making Dehacked shit?>>11305661I reserve jumping for mods that make use of it like Treasure Tech.
>>11305684For bigger stuff, Eraser. It's a Boom compatible single level partial conversion, think Maskim Xul but less technically impressive and also inspired by Blame! in various ways.I got some smaller stuff on the backburner, sometimes I post them here for feedback. Current projects are an episode made for Sun Damage Omen and a Decohack mod where you play as a pissed off skeleton.Long term project right now is an MBF21 survival horror total conversion inspired by Signalis but with no horny lesbian gommunism bullshit. That one's just a pile of concepts at the moment.>>11305686MyHouse is fine, really. It got me to start mapping for good.>>11305703You all look the same and reading post IDs is usually not necessary. Sometimes I fuck up.
>>11305695It was never meant to be edited with hand. There were dos based editors from the start. "Dehacked bad" anon is certified retard for trying notepad the shit out of dehacked. That's like trying to make a map by writing hex code.
>>11305679I'm not even espousing GzDoom here, you cocksucking fuckhead. God, you're retarded.>>11305682>Dehacked is cool and there's cool wads that use it. Yes, but they exist in spite of it. Batman Doom is a master crafted TC because they figured out how to do all that wild and inventive shit with just DeHacked.My argument here is NOT that GzDoom and Decorate is better than DeHacked, and should be used instead. My argument that we shouldn't have to fucking do any of this DeHacked shit just to do a mod or TC, that there should be another option BESIDES GzDoom if you want something more advanced.MBF21 sort of does this for us, and you can do a lot cool things with it, but it still has DeHacked's shitty baggage attached to it, which means getting new arguments and features for it is like pulling teeth.What if I want to add alternate attacks to weapons? What if I want to make the Berserk pack affect the fists in more ways than it currently can? What if I want to make Berserk affect all the weapons, or make separate powerups which affect different weapons in different ways? What if I want to add new weapons or ammo types? I cannot do any of that shit with DeHacked, and good luck asking devs to add any of that to DeHacked.ID24 promises to allow for SOME of these things, but not all, and it's an unfinished hunk of shit which only a single dev is willing to tinker with currently. ID24 going for more DeHacked is a gigantic mistake which puts more roadblocks into leaving DeHacked alone and having a true universal coding format for modding.
>>11305723>Yes, but they exist in spite of it. Batman Doom is a master crafted TC because they figured out how to do all that wild and inventive shit with just DeHacked.So? Everything only exists in spite of something else. Limitations breed creativity.
>>11305720That's not the point, NOBODY has ever read or written DeHacked straight, it's that DeHacked is a limited dead end which should have stayed vanilla.
>>11305686Yah the difference is one's a postmodern David Lynch type horror while the other 2 listed are a power fantasy and just shock value
>>11305730Assembly is a limited dead end, we should ditch it completely. Compiliers are only a bandaid fix.
>>11305735This is a retarded analogy because assembly isn't a pile of shitty gross hacks which people are asking devs to add more features to.
>>11305735Humans are a limited dead end, embrace the incoming robot revolution
>>11305737If it works, it works.
>>11305738That sounds like something a robot would say.
>>11305723>What if I want to add alternate attacks to weapons?You use GZ.>What if I want to make the Berserk pack affect the fists in more ways than it currently can?You use GZ.>What if I want to make Berserk affect all the weapons, or make separate powerups which affect different weapons in different ways?You use GZ.>What if I want to add new weapons or ammo types?You use GZ.Blame this on ZDoom and its family winning the port race. It set the standard and now everyone and their mother uses it and expects its features to be present in other ports. Decohack not being so full of fancy tricks makes it better because it forces you not to be an idiot and actually come up with new ways to do things.>>11305730>DeHacked is a limited dead end which should have stayed vanilla.Whatever helps you sleep at night, little clucker-sucker. The same has been said of Decorate, ACS and Zscript by a lot of mouthbreathers, you're just another one.
>>11305723It's not like mbf21 and id24 are end of dehacked, it will get developed and some day you might be able to make Quad Damage with it. Id24 will get finished eventually and it's still made by same guys as mbf21 minus kraf, so it will get finished "unofficially" even if it didn't get finished for kex port. Id24 has custom weapons, ammo types and huds. Basically then you can do alt attack by having the weapon in two slots. And if you don't want use gzdoom or dehacked, there is still eternity and it's edf code. It's like you are looking for reasons to complain even though there is none.
>>11305746You could use Zandronum for all that stuff you answered too. Unless you file that under GZ as well, I always personally consider Zandronum to be ZDoom rather than GZdoom, given how behind the times it is.
>>11305747Being able to keep track of and manipulate a different ammo type would allow for custom powerups to be created. That is just about all I can think of to realistically add to ID24. Alt fires would be nice, but less likely because that would require control settings to be changed.
>>11305749Custom huds allow you to keep track of all custom ammo types you create.
>>11305748I don't, it's because a lot of these types are also the ones to say Zandro's not worth using because it's old and outdated (read: doesn't support ZScript).Zandro's pretty cool. Learning how to make a mod in Decohack made me want to make one for Zandro too, nothing crazy, just a nice weapon set.
>>11305746>You use GZ.FUCK that.>Decohack not being so full of fancy tricks makes it better because it forces you not to be an idiot and actually come up with new ways to do thingsOr not doing things at all, because it can't do them,>Whatever helps you sleep at night, little clucker-sucker. You really are retarded and cannot read.>>11305747>It's not like mbf21 and id24 are end of dehackedAlright, ask all the devs besides Fabian to add ID24 support, and while you're at it, ask them to add more bounce types, or the ability to make proper ceiling mounted enemies.Or alternate attacks.
>>11305709>Erasersooo this is you then? >>11305679
>>11305751I meant being able to check, add, or remove custom ammo types for unrelated weapons. (I think) That's not something ID24 will support. Making a custom HUD isn't the issue.It would also allow for demon keys and similar items to make nonlinear weapon upgrades.
>>11305752I've used Zandronum for quite awhile, though I regret it in some ways as I usually run into a weird roadblock or two that bars me from using a simple solution to a problem I have, usually a single flag or extra function that Zandy lacks.Tangling with online Zandronum is a totally separate engine too and a constant source of ball-aches. I don't know how people pull that shit off because even after all of my efforts, there's still a lot of oddities and visual glitches in my mods when played online. It pisses me off.
>>11305709It's alright.>>11305734I always thought it felt like a Goosebumps book made for Doom players.
>>11305748>>11305752Zandybam doesn't even work with UMAPINFO and they refused to even update their Decorate from its old incomplete 2010s state.
>>11305753Woof and Nugget are confirmed to get id24 support. That's all I need. You can request new features when mbf27 or something like that comes.
>>11305757Yes, Zandronum is fucking bullshit, the only reason it has any userbase at all is because it's the only way to have anything GzDoom-like but with non-shit multiplayer.
>>11305764I think the creator confirmed that it's inspired by House Of Leaves.
>>11305754Sure is me. It's (mostly) banter, I just hate seeing people treat other forms of modding like they can't be used for making good shit too.>>11305757At best I'd make it SP-focused and if someone else wants to tangle that, they're welcome to. Hell, making something for Zandro sounds fun on its own now that I know how Decorate (sort of) works.>>11305765UMAPINFO isn't universal is just like an old tired joke at this point. I don't really care about what features this or that port has, if I can make something cool for it I'm happy.
>>11305768Is Nugget confirmed to get it? I know it's a Woof fork, but he could just ignore those commits.
>>11305774>I just hate seeing people treat other forms of modding like they can't be used for making good shit too.Where did I ever say that?
>>11305770He never confirmed anything because he's pulling a Kikiyama, but it's extremely obvious. It namedrops Navidson, highlights every instance of house in blue text like the book, and even has a soft-remake of the actual maze from the book.
>>11305769I like to play Zandro's invasion mods in single player. Good old mindless fun. Those Quake 3 style single player campaigns against bots are good fun also.
>>11305769Every multiplayer-centric port sucks.
>>11305776It was definitely aimed at the fucknugget saying Dehacked sucks.
>>11305779They are (because they were originally made for Skulltag), but they would be even better if the Decorate was at the very least complete so that those fucking things could be played with all kinds of amazing Decorate mods which are out there.
>>11305781Odamex is good. It's like Woof but with slopes and multiplayer.
>>11305783How can you struggle so much with reading comprehension? Have you been diagnosed for dyslexia?
>>11305774>UMAPINFO isn't universal is just like an old tired joke at this point.It's more universal than UDMF.
>>11305784Well some invasion mods have been attached with some gameplay mods like Complex Doom Invasion. It's very fucking fun invasion mod btw.
Cant check at the moment,does anyone knows if this also converts TNT/plutonia textures?https://youtu.be/Jzc6wVXM57U?si=mL0DfFryImAPlB_m
>>11305794Prolly not.
>>11305774Maybe seek therapy instead of deciding to lash out at random anons as a band-aid fix for your mental episodes
anybody got actinia rc3 on hand?
>>11305847nvm it's in the op
>>11305723Daily reminder that it did take 15 years for zdoom to add custom power-up effects that you describing to decorate. Skulltag did the custom power-up effects first.It's actually incredible that you can do now more with dehacked than you could do with decorate at 2004. I wonder how evolved boom derived ports are 20 years from now on. We might eventually have demo compatible udmf maps with slopes and even some light acs.
>>11305859>I wonder how evolved boom derived ports are 20 years from now onI imagine it'll be like how advanced DSDA, Woof, Nugget, etc would feel to a Doom player in 2004
>>11305859DSDA already has some limited UDMF support.
>>11305873>wtf not only there are no 3D models, there even no 3D floors, the fuck is this shit, whatever I'm sticking with Doom Legacy, splitscreen is bitchin'
>NOBODY has ever read or written DeHacked straightDo you really think that the OG DeHackEd tool just materialized out of the aether, and that the dev(s?) didn't learn to trace code pointers in Doom manually in order to map them to program functions?
>>11305874Yea, but very limited. You could probably play Herian with it? But not anything else atm. It might stay very limited too, if kraf stops developing dsda after getting banned.
>>11305848>Fore/vr/ Alone still listed as a betaLooks like it's time for an update. B)
>>11305886Seems like the maintainer got bored, the sam and shadow warrior projects are still there when they're super-dead
>>11305882Saying nobody has ever done it is an obvious exaggeration.
>>11305882You are right, but not a single mapper has ever used dehacked manually on their wads. Earliest tools for using dehacked were already made on 1994.
>>11305882Have you ever tried reading a DeHacked patch? Much less tried to write one directly? The very most you can realistically do is to change the names of levels and set PAR times, when it gets to modifying any behaviors it's an incomprehensible list of entries with precious little context attached.>>11305893It's hyperbole, but it's effectively true.>>11305894Yes, those tools were made so that people would never have to directly hack the .exe themselves.
>>11303563very slowly
>>11305931>it's effectively trueYeah, it's very uncommon for anyone to bother trying to write out a dehacked patch by hand. But I'm sure it's been done before.
>easily readable and writable code format for weapons, monsters, items, objects, and effects>features like state jumps based on various values like inventory, distance, health values>different kinds of bounce types which aren't shit>being able to make ceiling mounted enemies which actually stay put up in the ceiling>being able to flag some actors so that they are purely cosmetic and don't fuck with the gameplay (for effects)>being able to define the players and whatever weapons you want from the ground up, and defining ammo types and new powerups and weapon modifiers>being able to define the status bar from the ground up (in a sensible way, not in an SBARINFO way)>a better UMAPINFO which can support more things which regular MAPINFO already does>SNDINFOGzDoom can do these things, but GzDoom has no demos (that matter, anyway), and it has more demanding system specs. I ain't asking for any ZScript shit here, and my hope would be some actual good multiplayer support some day, which GzDoom will never ever have.
All this dehacked talk got me wanting to look up some stuff people have done, and this seems like a fun boss monster.https://youtu.be/JCy6ZMpqBvUShame about the infighting, but I'm sure that's fixable with MBF21.
>>11305961It would be pointless. There is nothing to gain. Not even respect. It's like trying complete the first episode with keyboard by using your ballsack instead of your fingers. It would take time, and nobody would applaud you. Instead everyone would just think, why?
>>11305982It could be done for very small things. It's easier to load up Notepad than it is Whacked. And when I say small, I mean like just changing the health of something.
>>11305894>but not a single mapper has ever used dehacked manually on their wadsMaking absolute statements like that pretty much guarantees you'll be slightly, (dare I say, negligibly) wrong. "Judgement" is a 34 level megawad made by Rayzik which contains extensive mbf21 modification. At about the 39:48 mark of this video he explains how he wrote all the dehacked using notepad:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1hEUs6d4MIkAs someone who really likes dehacked and has used it extensively, I'll say I like it <i>because</i> it sucks. No one would design a system like it if it weren't conceptually descended from a glorified hex editor running in dos, not even the more advanced versions like mbf21. The only important benefit beyond sucking is greater port compatibility.
>>11305980Avactor has those flying spider masterminds that shoot bfg balls. Bfg enemies are quite fun to fight. There should be more of them in wads.
>>11305997Well that's new info for me. I like Judgment. It has the most fun melee weapon that anyone has ever done with dehacked.
>>11301891I still can't believe he did 1 again for sigil 2. sigil was great but he squeezed that bestiary bone dry.
Doom community seems to think UV is the "default" and then the lower difficulties just have less monsters or more ammo/health so its believed you have to play a wad on UV to get the "true experience" but is that actually true? If you look at E1 the shotgun is a secret in m1 and in the open in m2 but if you play on harder difficulties you can just get them off of Shotgunners in the first level. Same with Doom 2. It feels more like id made the levels on easy mode first to fit continuous play and only then added harder setups for UV.
>>11306017It actually varies. John Romero for instance designed with HMP as a base, then altered for the other skill levels.
>>11306017People default to UV because they want to experience everything the map has. It's easy to feel like you're getting "less" when you're on HMP or lower.
>>11306017>>11306024Ribbiks notably does this too, UV is the newgame+
People don't use custom map hazards enough in Doom. Hurt floors are cool, but fireball throwers are even cooler.
finished Ad Mortemfinished Unrattledwhich /vr/ wad should i play next?
>>11306041400 minutes of /vr/'s alright, very short maps too
>>11306041400 Minutes
>>11306042Short maps, but a lot of them. That project had a really good turnout.
>>11306041is this ai?
>>11306046I remember anon's chart saying it took 14 days to develop start to finish too, feels like one huge freak accident allowed it to happen the way it did, especially when you consider Duke Nukem Forever got leaked by the end of its dev time so if it started any later it would have taken a hit
>>11306047some of those weird orange humans in that pic only have 4 fingers baka
>>11306047crooked magazine gives it away
>>11306050All because 94 Protons was running late.
>>11306053And still is. gg no re
>>11306057We'll all look like revenants when it releases.
>>11306062Fun fact, if you don't have "rest in peace" written on your tombstone, you're involuntarily drafted to fight in the great skeleton wars
>>11306065
the ride never ends
are there any good western wads besides A Fistful of Doom and The Magnificent Five?
Lads, been playing Arcane Dimensions with the shotgun pellets...........I kinda like it. Forgive me padre for I have sinned.
>>113060412048 units of vr is pretty good, played co-op with a bud and had a blast
>>11306024Similarly Mouldy has said he balances HMP as the fun difficulty and UV and on as the unreasonably difficult ones.
>>11306186I also like the pellets, but mostly because that's about the only thing you can do to make the Quake shotguns *feel* more powerful without actually buffing their damage and throwing off balance. It sorta adds a more physical presence to them I suppose.
>>11305970>I ain't asking for any ZScript shit hereYou should be. Prising ZS out of the ZDoom family and getting the wider array of ports able to comprehend it it a far more worthwhile use of anybody's time than building MBF947: Now with "invert specific screen quadrant" function.
Somebody's done another of them Doom 3 in Doom 2 wads, except this time it's like 4 gig of fucking textures.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rcP50RASijM
>>11306157cute!
>>11306260I thought this would be actually Doom 3 in Doom 2 but it's more like "What if id made Doom 3 in the 1990s" type thing.
My dream source port:>limit removing and Client-Server multiplayer out of the box>ridiculously powerful in-game console (might even include a text editor you can use to create and save "functions")>console commands can do all sorts of things, including some very low level engine functions such as moving a specific actor, reading a lump, using variables, or in-game map manipulation.>obviously, a lot of those commands are "cheats" so you can't do that in multiplayer most of the time.>However, because these commands are very powerful, they can be used as a scripting language for modding.>The same way some commands are "cheats" other commands can only be used by players directly to avoid malicious mods (such as changing a player's name or controls).> because features are implemented at such low level, it doesn't have some very advanced features other ports have, but they can be modded in, so it could potentially support anything by doing so.
what do you guys think of the WolfenDoom wad series, are these worth playing?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AnoKKsbI1SQ
>>11306260I hope they release a Maps Only version.
>>11305656Nigga, Dehacked, and there is no ground for discussion, and everyone but e-peen retards who think using Dehacked gives them clout (just like the "hurr durr pistol starting is the only true way" tards) agrees that Dehacked is absolute fucking shite. People only put up with it becausea) they're used to itb) because it's been around for a million yearsc) it allows "modding" stuff within vanilla limits (the most important point here)Going by your logic I could also say that if you say GZDoom sucks it's because you are too retarded to understand ZScript and/or ACS and/or UDMF.t. has done everything from vanilla/dehacked to zscript/udmf
>>11303563i wouldnt. singleplayer is way better, and quake 3 is better for multi.
>>11306437>t. has done everything from vanilla/dehacked to zscript/udmfSame, and mostly agree.Just want to add that working within dehacked limits is also just kinda fun. Like playing an older less featured game. If you want to get shit done tho, yeah don't use dehacked. It's kind stupid. Stupid like a fox.
>>11301838Hello Fellas! I'm a big DOOM fan playing these games for the very first time. So far they're all working fine in GZ and Zandronum but I was trying Nugget out of curiosity and half of my wads won't even load (SIGIL and SIGIL2) or have serious graphical bugs.Only DOOM and DOOM II are working OK. Is Nugget just a meme or am I doing something wrong? Are there any extra steps to set it up correctly?
any written ultimate doom builder guides i can learn while at work?
>Quake 3I tried playing Quake Live years on steam and in my first match everyone on my team was dead except me for some reason and they were spectating me and called me a gimp. Never tried it again.
>>11306462Looks like you're loading Doom 1 wads with Doom 2 as the IWAD. In Chex Quest's case, it's actually its own IWAD and shouldn't be loaded with either Doom 1 or 2. Use a launcher or batch files to specify the right IWAD with the -iwad command line argument.
>>11306485https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/140740-doom-mapping-crash-course-absolute-beginner-mapping-workshop/https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/74073-vanilla-level-editing-lesson-1-preliminary-reconnaissance/
>>11306537many thanks
>>11305654So what you're saying is that it's a wrist pump but shit because it needs more space to move.
>>11306667Oh yeah? Well I'll give YOU a wrist pump.Wait.
>>11306667That Burgess shotgun is cool, but the wrist pump it has exists entirely because the conventional pump slide we see on shotguns now was new and still patented at the time, the design has a lot of disadvantages over a lever-action. There's good reasons nobody else did that.
>>11306462>I'm a big DOOM fan>playing these games for the first time
>>11306715>entirelyIt's more because a fore-end pump would have to separate when folded, which is a recipe for failures.
>>11306738Most Burgess shotguns were not folding, I don't know if that was ever a plan in the first place.>>11306675If he's not taking it, I'm interested.
>>11306724He could've started with the modern games, like I did.
>>11306025Why not simply balance through resource placement? The monster encounters don’t need to change. Where there’s a mega sphere and some health packs on HNTR, there’s only a mega sphere on HMP, and on UV it’s a soul sphere.
>>11305669>GzDoom modNo, it's a game
>>11306364Good luck with the development, anon.
>>11306724Ever heard of love at first sight?
>>11305703If it's duel then I'm down for any Quake.>>11306449How come? isn't 4 greater than 3?
>>11306186Seems most/all like them, and I sympathize because I’m one of the few who accepts Copper’s balance ideas. It feels like gibs come easier with pellets as well. If you play Mjolnir you can enable them with the same command from AD: impulse 130
>>11306964Same thing. You get the training wheels encounter instead of the real thing.
>>11306980It's a GzDoom mod.
>>11307121That’s kind of like considering Hexen and Heretic more as “Doom mods” and not individual titles, especially since they also don’t require original Doom files to play.As far as this thread is concerned, that’s where I’d draw the line between something like a “mod” and “game”.
You just know the dude has issues when he's hiding stuff like this in his mod.
>>11307230Eww.
>>11307230what the hell?
>>11307230Everything I saw in the trailer posted earlier was enough of a red flag, I guess this is the icing on top.
>>11306369Jej
>>11307419You don't like maps filled with square rooms?
>>11307036>How come? isn't 4 greater than 3?Vanilla, sure, I'm a big fan of sliding myself, but he probably meant CPMA, which makes it harder to say.Also, Q4Max isn't a substitution for a proper multiplayer source port and could use further tweaks. Considering that making one is in a realm of possibility now, as there are several projects that marry Q4SDK with Doom 3 codebase, there's no excuse for not having one.
>>11307419It gave me Doomslayer Chronicles vibes (and not in a good way), and having played some of it, it's like it has decent ideas in the maps but dogshit execution.
>>11307472>Doomslayer Chroniclesoh no no nobut seriously I agree. It just has that look of the maker having really bad taste. Kind of like those Unreal engine survival games on steam made by one guy and they think it will sell more than Core Keeper because it's 3D!
>>11306260Another clueless newbie gzdoom wad. At least we have dsDoom3, Rising and that DBP for all Doom 3 in Doom 2 needs.
>>11307472There are just so many gzdoom maps that have level design of mediocre/bad 1995 wad with the only exception being the addition of dynamic lights, slopes, high res rextures, room over room and imported 3d models. Of course there are some good maps too, but generally I tend to stay out gzdoom maps that have not received cacoward/runner-up/honorable mention, because that usually means that they are not worth even trying. DavidN's maps howerer are good even though they have not received attention cacowards: Keeper Of The Seven Keys, Ascent Of Titan, Phobian Odyssey. He at least knows how to make good gameplay.
>>11307558>33-DD>DDWOLFENSTEIN DOUBLE-D
>>11307562It'd have to be a weird ass sidescroller like that Serious Sam game.
>>11306524Thanks, that was the problem, now I'm using shortcuts with the -iwad and the -file parameters and SIGIL 1 & 2 are working fine. Chex 3 still crashes like a mofo. Fuck Nugget, I'll be sticking to GZ and enjoy some motherfucking DOOM.
>>11307580Chex Quest 3 is a Zdoom wad, so it's not going to work in Nugget unless you're using this version:https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/143907-rc41-chex-quest-3-vanilla-edition/
>>11307560I don't know if dump ever got any awards but Dump3(at least the levels I played) was pretty nice and it's all udmf. Not all levels in that set use any features of usmf but some of them do and it's usually refreshing, like that bouncy castle map, or the quake one.
>>11306462>>11307580I'm having 4 separate woof folders for all different iwads myself. It saves me lot of time.
>>11307596Oh I forgot the dump series. They are quite fun, and worth playing imo. Sure they are mostly newbie maps, but that's the point this time, so it works. Have you played ramp series? I haven't because the amount of maps terrifies me.
>>11307560>DavidN's maps howerer are good even though they have not received attentionFew people can tolerate the bitter furfag long enough to even give them a look.>>11307596Kinsie's map from Dump 3 is pretty fucking great.
>>11301838Nothing personal, the asshole enemy.>>11307036if Q4MAX had come earlier, Q4 would had been saved
Nice derail.I'm too busy trying to make the flashes light the gun properly, i really have no clue how to make them and I keep running into the wall trying to do it.
broke: mapping to make a Quake levelwoke: mapping to make comfy houses
>>11307657It can't be as bad as the Parasites or GZ's Stalkers, right?>t. Hasn't played the PS1 version.
>>11307712He spawns Stalkers, and his Railgun Shots are pinpoint, and he is tanky
>>11301838Whatever happened to pic related, I get that it's forbidden knowledge but my curiosity is too much. Did it ever get finished / updated since 2016? My inner data hoarder needs the answer since it's rare and will probably only get rarer.
>>11307603>Have you played ramp series? I haven't because the amount of maps terrifies me.Never tried it, I guess the number of maps wouldn't bother me because you can just choose which ones to play, it's a variety packI heard it's got some schizo's maps that a lot of people were talking about here
>>11307657By the way, Same energy with that fucking face of his.
>>11307715>Railgun shots are pinpointEvil. Challenge accepted, hope it’s not too bullshit. Can they be juked like Mission 64 gladiator shots?>AMD 0S
I saw Open Fortress has an official crossover map with Tomb Fetus and I thought "oh it's finally out?" but it turns out it was supposed to release in 2023 then got delayed to 2024 which we're nearing the end of and it's still not out
>>11307748this grinning motherfucker can tank rocket launcher shots to the face and even play on your mistakes
>>11307802Frankly though, just give me more Q2 maps with them as enemies, even Oblivion with them and the Tonk if someone remakes that model.
>>11305723>DeHacked's shitty baggageIt's not DeHacked shitty baggage. It's Doom shitty baggage. The only good thing Doom has is simplicity of mapping for it. For everything else - it's easier and better to just code a new engine that will support everything from scratch without any gay OOP shit. Just a simple set of Game Maker - type rules which you can substitute with a simple and easy to learn progressive code.
>>11307716>one of the computers is a burning pile of rubbleWhat happened?
>>11307794
>>11307836Angry 90s apple fan.
>>11307850lol
>>11307230Hard disagree, my guy. This is clearly Cacoward material.
Damn they are going even harder than we are on ithttps://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/148659-doom-iii-doom-ii-mod-release/
>>11307920>11 years in the making>Is full of dated gameplay AND cultureDamn we got a Duke Nukem Forever on our hands here lol
Somebody's selling a fork of Odamex bundled with FreeDoom on Steam, lol.https://store.steampowered.com/app/3100730/Zugnaex/
>>11307920>2: The original images does have the panties out, which was not really what was looked for. the pants were added in photoshop, look at Crash Portrait for the origin of the pants.Man the OP talking about such retarded subject matter in a customer service voice completely sincerely is hilarious to me
>>11307716not updated. breaks most mods you pair with it. this wad is purely for the novelty of columbinesomeone needs to make a proper shooter drill megawad with different locations and suchmaybe this was already done and i am a pleb?
>>11307927precisely how sketchy is this
>>11307927should we report this on steam? i dont fully understand the situation but I assume this guy is selling something that isnt his
>>11307465nope. i never said anything about cpma. im talking about QUAKE 3 ARENA. and QUAKE 3 REVOLUTION. and QUAKE ARENA ARCADE.
>>11307986Legally it's probably fine, you can sell Freedoom, I assume Odamex is GPL as well or some shit, apparently they're promising to post the source changes though I'm doubtful on that.Shit's probably just slimy more than illegal.
>>11307927>obvious AI descriptionare they even trying? i like the UI tho. looks comfy. "Doom battle zone" sounds like something you'd read in the program of a 90s dwango rip-off.
>>11308025Third worlders do this shit all of the time with other FOSS software. Hard to call them scammers when it's normally legal, but it is taking advantage of retard naivete.
>>11308020Then you are objectively wrong and it's worse than Q1, Q2, Q4 and QL for multiplayer.CPMA is what makes Q3 really good.
>>11307947The part where he's accusing the players of being a sissy for using the character he added in and then hid is hilarious.Also he fucking lifted the artwork for that shit from Tumblr too, lol.https://king-of-teeth.tumblr.com/post/624270516712308736/doom-but-cute
>>11308063What if it's all a joke
Nigga is selling Doom 3 soap
>>11308081I hope that's the health bonus.
>>11308081>45 kromer
>>11308081Cacodemon soap works great. It keeps those balls fresh all day long.
how do i get am_cheat 2 working trough launch parameters? i type am_cheat 2 and nothing happensi do -am_cheat 2 and nothing happensthe wiki makes it sound like you have to prefix it with -iddt but that also does nothingi just want to see the monsters in the automap
>>11308136how about +am_cheat 2
>>11308138it worked but theres a bunch of random actors buzzing around like flies nonstop around my charactermaybe its the mod im using (redspiral93)
>>11308146Happens with a lot of mods that use shit like that for effects.
>>11308025>>11308036Were there any "sleazy but legal" situations related to the thread or board and what's generally the reaction to this. My brain is too sleep-deprived to really think of something right now, but logical answer for me right now seems to be "generally people throw shit in the direction of the one being sleazy, but some might try justifying it like 'the other party is worse' or some shit like it.
you know looking at how customizable the automap seems to be i dont get why that hotline uac guy didnt just do the mod on the automap, i was surprised to see sprites for all actors on it the first time i tried it and that minimap mod even lets you see projectiles
>>11308081the salt balance has to be just right, so the best fat for making soap comes from demons
>>11301853>feel guy>port doom
>>11308194>Tom and the Jerries
>>11305753>FUCK that.why?
>>11308249He might just not want to use GZ, it's a valid enough. Shame he has to post like a crazy person about it.
Who's playing Zugnaex tonight
>>11306369there. I overworked it
>>11308340forgot pic
>>11308346>1942>hiding gold bars all over your castle>I seriously hope you guys don't do this
>>11308265I wonder if he'd be more into it if someone told him to use Eternity, Edge, Vavoom or any other "advanced" port that likely has what he wants.
>>11308358
Any anons here familiar with mbf21 mapping that can tell me examples of interesting stuff you can do with it?I'm making a shitty beginner map and I'm not quite getting what I can do with the format.I've made UDMF maps before and I enjoy the freedom zdoom gives, but mbf21 seems to just be doom format with extra line specials?Maybe it's something to do with decorate or dehacked, idk.
>>11308546MBF21 also has some extra sector effect specials.
>>11304095>I'm hired by people to sabotage Nazi plans...>Deep. Dark. Nazi plans.
So I checked the mbf21 spec and it seems like outside of generalized sector effects and a few scroller linedef effects that mbf21 is mostly for people doing hyper specific decohack stuff?So if I, a dogshit mapper, just want to make a map with some linedef/sector bells and whistles then there's no real reason to use mbf21 outside of specific ports being used?Like you would just use boom or udmf or something if you were after specifically mapping features?
>>11308584Pretty much. Unless you really want linedefs that block only land monsters or sectors that instakill monsters.
>>11308620makes sense. I was originally only using the format for a community project on a different board that fell through so I'll probably just go back to udmf and try to figure out how to use the stair tool properly. Seeing "auto curve" in the options for that tool was like witnessing man discover fire
>>11308584It's just Boom 2, really. Some people like it, some people don't, nothing else to it.I like it, UDMF never really stuck with me because it has way too many options I never justify using and I make simpler maps anyway. I can bang out a good Boom/limit removing map in two days, UDMF takes upwards of a week.
best rpg mod?
>>11308756https://github.com/WNC12k/DoomRPG-Rebalancebasically makes a doom wad play like E.Y.E where you can replay levels and grind if you want to. If you really want to you could play multiple wads with the same character saveI haven't tried it with any monster replacer except colorful hell where it becomes a DBZ shitfest of red/white/black demons that deal hundreds of damage just for standing in the same zipcode vs. your regenerating 1000 HP shield by map 30obviously it's not perfect, the "energy" stat from doomrpg feels useless because energy points regenerate too slowly for active abilities to be useful, but it adds more progression to DRLA than finding assembly kits and an indestructable armor
>>11308778sounds fun. i'll give it a try
>>11308742>2days to a weekAnon senpai, how do I learn this power of not taking fucking forever to make a map?
>>11308816Adderall
>>11308816i hear coke helps
>>11308816Put on your earbuds, choose some music you like, close every other program and just start laying down lines as fast as you can. You can always fix and adjust things later of course and the maps probably won't be very long, but aim for a 6 map long WAD.Most of my last maps have been made while listening to maidcore. If you want recommendations:>Yakui the Maid>Chikoi the Maid>Takai the MaidDon't forget that mapping is a skill. Try your best long enough and you'll get good, anon kouhai.
>>11307920>3.8gb
>>11308584MBF21 as a map format is Boom/MBF but with some well needed additional features and bugfixes. It also has a DeHacked where they added some more functions and you don't have to hack up existing monsters and frames, you can just create new actors, new frames, new sounds, and everything that already exists can be intact.>>11308816Like the other dudes say, prescription crank pills and caffeine.Choose a texture set if you want to, think of some maps you enjoyed playing and how you can learn from their gameplay concepts, put on some music you like, and get motherfucking grinding.
>>11308886>not using instant coffee and just dumping 4x as much of it into the cup
>>11307920>>11308863>4gb for THIS shithttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h7fNblzYfD4
Is Serious Sam allowed here
>>11308909Always has been, it's listed in the OP now
>>11308898>wide dark maze with nothing in itah, my favorite
>>11308909Yeah, that nigga's real cool.>>11308913It gets better, the light starts blinking on and off.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6tXXaXFmiTw
>>11308898https://youtu.be/AnScN4FCJXg
>>11308917ed wood is such a great movie
>>11308910That's great to hear!
>>11308909Sam probably has some of the best starting equipment compared to the rest of the classic FPS heroes:>Knife does as much damage as a super shotgun blast, swings fast, good reach>Schofield is pinpoint accurate, good fire rate, infinite ammo, sounds cool, and can be dual wielded.
>>11308917Can't wait for the next one in another 11 years.
>>11308918>i need all the transexuals and transvestites i can get!!
>>11308932The revolver is good on paper, but its slow-ass firing rate sucks, even when you're dual wielding them.
>>11307920>>11307926>>11308863>>11308898>4 Gigabytes for maps which looks like it's from the "I have the trial version of DeepSEA" school of level design>supposed AI generated content>much of the filesize comes from gigantic .flac music files>secret "Sissy Doomguy" playable character>author has his own website where he has random generic sales templates for completely unrelated crap
>>11308953I think it's just right. Obviously you wouldn't want to use even a pair of them with big hoardes. But for what it is, I think it's excellent: It's a reliable enough gun/pair of guns to help pick off ranged targets or wear down bigger lads, but you're still gonna want heavier firepower for bigger lads or big groups.I'm just a sucker for the reload sounds.
>>11308956>In Mono (outside of D_AMPIE), there exists what appears to be 2 more additional copies of all 36 of your music files, prefixed with either an L or an R designating which stereo channel it was derived from, also in lossless flac.What the FUCK?>Verification not required.
>>11308961
>>11308169It seems like it just appeared out of fucking nowhere and the "developer" has been trying to make it look like it had community support, shit's very weird.
>>11308971I think the dude just came from a time warp from like 2011, this would feel right at home in the late 2000s/early 2010s era of Doom in all its ZDoom jankiness and antiquated edge
>>11308976Some say it's a botnet created by AI
>>11308956https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=meENsaqxZBISome of the level design looks better than the blinking 90s maze, some of it even looks decent (at least visually), but it's this disjointed mass of stuff haphazardly stapled together, and there's this absolutely insane bloat to everything.If the author was to hack up all the levels into pieces to slash all the worthless size bloat (and all the music and graphic bloat), and then stitched together the best parts with some more ammo, I think he could have a few levels which would be decent.It feels like everything here is desperately spread thin and inflated to make things as "epic" in scale as the author can think of, at the expense of any potential quality it might have had.I laughed at this at first, but I realize that the author could probably not-suck, yet he made all of the worst possible choices imaginable in assembling this.
>>11309008>Pulling voice lines from Naked GunWhat the fuck?
>>11309027I recognize what that is, too, it's someone's old rendition of Into Sandy's City, which for whatever reason included a bunch of soundbytes from films and TV at the start (possibly as a joke).I'm sure someone else here recognizes it and can dig it up.
>>11309032It puts the music title at the top of the map on load, I think, gets funny later on when it's just crap attributed to "stock music" or something like that.I got a lot less far than that dude did, shit was hurting my brain in various ways.
>>11307091Where the FUCK is the next Mjolnir update holy shit.
>>11309053Mjolnir's cancelled due to being kind of boring.
>>11309076>merge some of the coolest shit from previous Quake mods>make maps that are giant and unfun visual clusterfucksMagnum copium syndrome strikes again.
>>11308916There's a blinking room just like that one, with that same vomit-inducing cadence, to the left of you when you pick up literally the first weapon in the game- the pistol. Which reminds me- gonna download lilith now to experience it.>>11308956>>much of the filesize comes from gigantic .flac music filesNot only are they gigantic but they feel really, really loud. I was getting a headache until I halved the music - from a 90sfx:50mus mix to a 90/25 to cope.
>>11301783I just wanted to mention that I played map 32 for Vertex Relocation and thought is was good. I'm surprised you could make something so interesting out of such a limited monster layout. My only gripe is how it looks weird the way these windows are just sunken into the ground. I'm also mildly surprised there's no sector toilet in the outhouse.
>>11309076My playthrough of episode 4 this year was some of the most fun I've had with video games to be quite desu. It'd be a shame if it was actually cancelled.>>11309082Tronyn has a distinct visual style, it's definitely not for everyone, but to call it a clusterfuck is just you not liking something wonderful. The man knows how to make Quake maps.
We had a pretty good "boomer shooter" thread before I got randomly sent to a psych ward for a weekI really enjoyed playing Catacomb 3-D, Catacomb Abyss, and Blake Stone. Have yet to try Operation Bodycount and og Heretic.
>>11309101>Tronyn has a distinct visual styleHe used to. His older maps like pic related were much more coherent. The garish blend of themes, horrific stretching of textures, and varying quality models strewn about in many Mjolnir maps is very much a clusterfuck visually. Generally very flat lighting doesn't help either.
>>11309123No I can definitely say he still has it.>The garish blend of themesWhat do you mean? It's all medieval Quake.>horrific stretching of texturesHorrific I'm not sure, but he's always been liberal with texture painting. I'm not sure why it'd be an issue now. Even in map 1 of A Roman Wilderness Of Pain, your pic related, the atrium of the fortress has stretched corpse textures so as to give them more visual clarity from down below where the player will see them.>and varying quality models strewn about in many Mjolnir maps is very much a clusterfuck visuallyI'd be very curious if you could provide an example of this. The flat lighting there isn't much to say about, the sun hits every mountain the same way.
>>11309101>something wonderfulI could understand if you were talking about E3, but E4 is just a slog.
>>11309116Are you alright brah
>>11309148Episode 3 could never be a slog of course because each map has less than 120 enemies, but it's very not wowing, I'm sorry if the author ever reads this. If one could accuse Mjolnir of being boring, I reckon it would be because of episode 3. I can fire up a random Arcane Dimensions map and each one has a distinct visual flair to it, much like the maps in Mjolnir's fourth episode. But episode 3 doesn't really have a whole lot going for it. There's grass + medieval, but when that's going on like in map 5 of episode 3, nothing there is something that nobody has seen somewhere else at some point in their lives. The mine map is really neat, but I can only remember thinking of it as just that: neat. It should have been much larger. Overall episode 3 is a very functional episode, challenging enemy setups for sure, but when I recommend Mjolnir to people it's primarily for its devkit, and episode 4, and I can 1000% see people thinking Mjolnir is boring based on episode 3 alone.
>>11309116boy you need to try the new doom 3 mod
>>11309252Does he really? I don't think he does, I think his mind needs some rest.
>>11309252>>11309256He needs to play something like The Thing You Can't Defeat instead.
>>11308049>objectively>on a subjective issueplease, shut up. this isn't/v/.
>>11308049Based>>11309354Fag
>400 replies of seethe over some random mod/vr/ has fallen
>>11309367Where the fuck have you been in the years past, Anon?
>>11309371eating slop
>>11309386Well you should get away from the trough and pay more attention because kinda like the tides themselves: Anger and belligerence towards a mod or two comes and goes here in the /vr/ doom threads. I wouldn't even call this "seething", most Anons here are making fun of this mod for being a piece of shit, though I'm disgusted at this fucking thing being FOUR gigs in size. That's just asinine.
>>11309392>I wouldn't even call this "seething", most Anons here are making fun of this mod for being a piece of shit, It's pretty much the same as with Doomslayer Chronicles, nobody's angry that it's shit, it's just being laughed about being terrible and overhyping itself.>though I'm disgusted at this fucking thing being FOUR gigs in size. That's just asinine.There's a cut down version that's still like 1.5 gig and still has a fuckton of audio file replication for reasons I can't fucking understand.
>>11309396Another Anon had brought up Doomslayer Chronicles earlier and I totally agree there. I saw that the guy made a smaller stripped down version as well but man 1.5gb also seems completely outrageous. Then again what do I know? I've only made gameplay mods and I'm a complete hardass when it comes to filesize.This whole project is a fucking enigma though. Between this dude just popping up out of nowhere, the shitty choice for a project name, and the random store on his website.
I don't know what's funnier, the Doom III mod itself or the spergs on DW lecturing the OP about it
While Doom 3 in Doom 2 is stealing the spotlight, there remains The Mystery of Zugnaex...
>>11309392>>11309396>WAH WAH THIS MOD IS 4 GIGS WAH WAHAre you stuck in the 80s or something? Everybody has 500 GB drives today, and nobody's forcing you to install it either.Jesus, a bunch of insolent crybabies you are.
>>11309425I'm just stating it's too big. Settle down, Anon. You're not getting a fight out of me.
>>11309427>Settle downYou first.
>>11309429Well I'm not making any combative greentext quotes, nor am I throwing out insults. I can say something sucks or it's too big without causing a ruckus. Though as defensive as you are about this, have you played it? I've been curious about if there's anything worthwhile in this cryptid of a Doom mod project, but not exactly curious enough to download it myself. I'm knee deep in my own bullshit so I don't have much time to try out random mods.
>>11309425>replying to more than one person bloat
>>11309405>This whole project is a fucking enigma though. Between this dude just popping up out of nowhere, the shitty choice for a project name, and the random store on his website.Yeah it's just really fucking bizarre, the author is basically unknown despite claiming to have been doing map design since 96, the map design itself is all over the place, it has some cool features like showing it's music names at the start of the map (and then fucks it up my attributing some to "royalty free") and it's just a mystery how it got to be this way if it really is 11 years worth of work.It feels like this shit needs to be examined under a microscope so we can get a better understanding of the meaning of life or some shit.
>>11309405My rule of thumb for Doom mods is if it's over 1GB, it's not worth downloading. It's always the GZ nerds making zip bombs full of uncompressed audio and/or 3d models with high res textures with shitty maps. I've seen this happen at least 5 times before.
>>11309464I'm trying to think of any WADs or gameplay mods with a big ass filesize that's halfway decent, and nothing comes to mind.
i know this thread has been shaken by the release of the Doom III mod, but i would like to raise attention on the author of another mod featuring AI-generated content: fat latinas mod anon, are you there?
>>11309465A few ones that are basically the amalgamated version of a series of TCs end up that big while potentially being decent but that's about it.Once stuff starts getting a gig+ it's usually rife with asset and feature bloat, on top of causing ports and stuff like Slade to start to choke if you try to open it as the pk3.
>>11309481>it's the mod's author fault that slade is such a pile of dogshit that it cannot open 1gb files in 2024
>>11309474Mod is in progress, I added skinny latinos with big dicks for balance
Wtf is the"fat latinas" mod?
spooktober is now FREAKTOBER
>>11309489>I added skinny latinos with big dicks for balanceI hope the third option is splitting the difference with femboys who have giant balls.
>>11309491Some retard's GZ porn "game". It looked like shit and played like shit, but this desperate coomer has been in every thread since begging for the dev to come back.>>11309505Patch notes:>increased the femboys' ball size by 200%>decreased the likeliness of big-dicked latinos spawning in the office by 50%, now you don't get game overs so often>Maria the cleaner won't shart unless she's in the bathroom>femboys can now rarely spawn wherever a clip is, use them to get glasses of cum that give you 200 health
>>11309512>Some retard's GZ porn "game". It looked like shit and played like shitIt's actually real? Wtf.
>>11309516There's been a few of those, I think two different anons have had ones called Slooter, both were bailed on.
>>11309516It is, if you go back like 20 threads or more you might find the link for it. I'll never understand people who use modding as a way to get their dick wet, at least HDoom lets you actually fuck the demons. There, if you killed some chick in the toilet she'd just fart.I don't get it. There wasn't any actual ryona either, so op is a coward.
>>11309512Can you add fat ass UK girls
>>11309518>I'll never understand people who use modding as a way to get their dick wetIt's usually part of a desperate need for their weird ass fantasy to be somewhere that's not just in their head.>>11309524There's already a Mrs Blobby mod.
ALRIGHT MOTHERFUCKERS, IT'S THAT TIME OF THE WEEK AGAIN: SCREENSHOT SATURDAY! WHAT THE FUCK HAVE YOU BEEN WORKING ON? Maps, mods, sprites? Now's a good time to post that shit!
>>11309614Trying to put together some vanilla-compatible high quality seamless skyboxes for my levels and it's a pain in the ass with how restrictive the rules are
>come across this>https://rrsp3.github.io/en/index.html>looks pretty cool>400meg download for some reason>comes with ten different sourceports and a launcher because they couldn't stick to a single map format or game.What the fuck.
>>11309687cyka blyat
>>11301839New GZDoom and Eternity versions droppedhttps://github.com/ZDoom/gzdoom/releases/tag/g4.13.0https://github.com/team-eternity/eternity/releases/tag/4.04.00
>>11309687>Russians in charge of organization or standarizationEh, could be worse.
>>11308886>>11308894>not drinking BANG Energy, 300mg of caffeine per can (150mg per cup) and then going BANG in your pants.
>>11309639They aren't THAT restrictive.
>>11309367Seethe? This is bewilderment and amusement, it's fun to look at a trainwreck at times.
>>11309425Are you the author or something? 4gb is colossally oversized, particularly given the nature of this mod, and much of the filesize comes not just from the fact that the soundtrack is in fucking .FLAC format for no reason at all, but that there's multiple duplicates of these tracks for no reason.That is absurdly inept, and it makes it a serious outlier, in 2024, a Doom mod of any kind being just 100mb would be considered very large still, because it's fucking DOOM. This turd certainly hasn't earned its filesize by any metric.
>>11309464I don't even know of anything that big, presumably it's low quality stuff which never gets popular because if someone manages to make a .wad or .pk3 as big as fucking 1gb, they are most likely untalented and inept and they don't know to not stuff it with shitloads of oversized and uncompressed assets.I don't know how big Blade Of Agony is, maybe that's like 500mb or something? It doesn't seem that good, but at least its filesize is from being stuffed fucking full of missions, details, and effects, that one isn't just a big pile of .flac music and shit.
>>11309687Have you actually read through the site or did you just scrolled through it?
>>11309730>4.044.04 Port userbase not found>4.13.0About damn time! It took them way too long
>>11309827I start to feel awful if I break 15-20 meg, I think I'd drink myself to death if even considered releasing something that huge with superfluous duplicates of files.>>11309843Including all the bundled in crap BoA is about 1.26 gig.
>>11309858That's pretty fat. But still, that's because the BoA team has put shitloads of assets, levels, and detailing into it, there's some real vision and ambition to create a large game full of content.This content can be critized, the spritework is very rough at times for instance, but none of BoA's devs at their worst are ever so fucking retarded and inept as to package their soundtrack as separate left and right channel motherfucking .FLAC files. That seriously amazes me, I have never before seen this level of ineptitude, the fags at Doomworld should bring back the Mockaward for this.
>>11308956>much of the filesize comes from gigantic .flac music filesguess no one told them about opus huh
>>11305661>>11305669>supplice doesn't have jumpingactually genuinely unironically unequivocally the most (if not the only) interesting thing i have heard about it, ever
>>11309980In a world where even non-ZDoom ports are starting to support Ogg Vorbis format audio, this is perhaps the most baffling aspect.
>>11310000It copies Doom so hard they didn't even bother adding jumping.
>>11309980Given that most of the size difference between the 4gig and 1.5 gig versions is texture compression (or the lack of it), I get the impression the developer is one of those types who obsesses over compressed shit being bad.
holy shit blood 2 is cooking me. is the game really that bullshit or am i just ass?
>>11310057No, blood 2 really sucks that much. The kicker is everything has such wide damage rolls that the game is a series of dice rolls. The best weapon in the game is the minigun simply because it rolls for damage the fastest and you'll easily get a high damage roll with it>>11309425Your brain is so fried and maladapted by the internet you call unrelated forms of human communication such as mockery "seething"
>>11309094>>11301839new version of map32 for /vertex relocation/ : https://files.catbox.moe/spug1v.wadfixed the sunken windows, fixed a bleeding window, and gave the outhouse an interior.
>>11310064>No, blood 2 really sucks that much.damn. thanks, i suppose. gonna go scout if there's any fan fixes or something.
>>11310057Blood 2 is perhaps the very worst shooter sequel of its era, it's a notoriously awful game from top to bottom.
>>11310094I think there's one called extra crispy, but you might be better off just playing a good game instead. Like Deathwish.
>>11310094there's no fixing it
>>11310094I mean, Blood 2 is terrible from its conception, there's just no fixing the game itself, it's an atrocity, the only value it has to is to hack it up for assets to use for modding the first game (like Caleb's voice lines and what not).
>Playin stewboy's wad >See the guy from 94pWhy did chopblock take 2 million years on this guy again?
>>11310137He has a new color br0, that stuff takes time!>*Flashbacks to captain mozzarella replacing the entire doom roster in under 2 weeks*
>>11309076Mjolnir is absolutely not cancelled in fact here is a WIP map for it. I can't say for sure when the next update will drop but it will be accompanied by a short trailer first showing off a few of the new maps and weapons. The really big maps have been split up into smaller maps, we know many aren't happy with hour long levels
>>11310225It doesn't. And it happens to ppl here more than you think
>>11309512i'm not desperate, im autistic and dedicated
>>11309614This is the map I was working on when I asked about mbf21 features >>11308546Given mbf21 has nothing for me specifically, I might scrap this map or just shelf it and try again but in udmf or something as I like the scripting I can do with linedefs there.Also this map has kind of become just me fiddling with the stair tool and elipse tool.
>>11310306
>>11310315fucking lol, never noticed that until now
>>11310315It's even hairy!
>>11301839Map-Center's Retro Jam 2 for Quake 1 has been released:https://www.moddb.com/games/quake/addons/map-center-quake-retrojam-21Completely vanilla and features 19 medieval maps inspired by E1M2, E1M3 and E1M4.I believe at least two regulars of this thread are participants.
>>11310182Good to know it's still trudging along. Sounds like new update will get us a new episode.
>ywn have your own particle accelerator
>>11310182>>11310430Fun Quake updates today, and this is on top of getting the PSX levels for Kex2 recently. Pretty cool.
>>11310474But you do have one.BLOW IT OUT YOUR ASS
>>11310474How does the dinky car not roll off the top of his monitor? Unless I'm retarded and it isn't mildly curved at the top.
One really cool aspect of Doom 3 I never see mentioned is how the environment itself provides the music for setpieces. Walking through an area with a very ominous throbbing electronic score but it's totally diegetic from machinery or technology. Really immerses you
>>11310506just set the parking brake duh
>>11310519Yeah, that’s nice. The sound design overall is very good. I love the variety of weird and ominous ambient tracks throughout the game.
>>11301839>>11305428You change one little tiny inconsequential thing before you send it out and it breaks the map and makes slime trails everywhere! Fixed version of MAP16: Suburban Heat Island, by aan, for Vertex Relocation, with yet more little tiny tweaks! I'm hoping this is the final version!https://files.catbox.moe/rqyuhj.wad
>>11310474there is a silhouette of carmack in the opposite wall
>>11307920This shit looks like it was made by a thirteen year old, that's shocking that it took them eleven years to make this.
>>11309789They're restrictive enough that it gets in the way of almost every skybox I initially wanted to use
>>11310637They can be wider than 256 pixels, if that's the issue. The only real problem is 128 pixels height limit.
>>11310323Why would it be hairy around the entire circumference of it?
>>11310479what's that map on your screenshot? it looks dope
>>11310650Yours isn't?
>>11310665Auger Zenith, one of my favs and its a DBP.
im a newbie to WADding who just started yesterday, im planning on making a small level pack for now,do you anons mind if i post a video of my map currently, its really really shitty and barebones so dont criticize me too harsh lol i just started
>>11308582Sometimes I wonder if Mr. Blaskawicz was a Soviet collaborator in at least one of the Wolfenstein iterations...
>>11310137Name of map pleasee
>>11310702Why wouldn't you be? We aren't elitists, I think, at least I'm not. Post it here anon.
>>11310650high test
>>11310672I don't got one.>>11310702That'd be fine, people might even be feeling especially kind after some of the stuff recently.
>>11310597kek
>>11310764Sorry for your loss.
>>11310650>he doesn't comb his dickngmi
>>11310650heat retention in cold climates
>>11310741>>11310764alright thanks, i feel like a normie to doom sometimes (even though ive been playing for years) in these threads because half the time i dont fucking understand any of it apologies for it being in 720p as well, my pc is so shitty lolhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Yf0Onvz8Fk
>>11309614I made a Raven patch for Naku-Naru 2.
>>11307920kino
>>11310828Cool textures anon, seems ambitious for a first map.Also idk if this is just to do with maps similar to this but it seems like it would be a bit claustrophobic?Like bumping into stuff constantly, I'd personally widen the doorways and walkways by about half their width imo.Also here's a meme to go with your currently empty map.
>>11310094The best fix of all is to drop the difficulty to Easy.
Some of these comments about the Doom III wad are pretty funny
>>11310000It's pretty much a Doom TC with some modern gzdoom features here and there. Probably one of the commercial gzdoom games that play closer to regular Doom, after REKKR.
>>11310828Not bad for someone who's brand new! (if you have been mapping serious non stop for 10+ years this would be bad) I've found it to be more satisfying to design areas around monsters than monsters around areas. Think of some fun or wild fights and put the enemies in! The crack in the wall is pretty cute. Get a little more crazy with geometry and lighting and all that jazz if you think you can handle it!
>>11310828By no means a terrible first attempt, scale is on the huge side but that's not something to really worry about for now, the climbing up into the vents is a pretty neat idea.
>>11308816I do it by being a neet and shitting out absolutely atrocious maps.
>>11309491>>11171972https://files.catbox.moe/ml25cr.pk3play at your own risk
Is there a gzdoom mod that lets you change soundtracks easily? I have a mod that replaces the original tracks with the Hulshult ones, but I’m looking more for a menu toggle like the new Nightdive port
Why do retards think it's okay to lock maps behind date requirements? I'm playing AMC squad, and this shit has three season locked maps, one halloween and two christmas.
>>11310965It's just bonus shit and if you really have to do it all this second you can fake the date on your system.You've got bigger issues with content gating than a few maps.
Open Fortress is back up, search for "Saturday Night Smackdown" and get fragging! (Or click this: steam://connect/51.161.34.159:27015 )Download: https://openfortress.fun/download>What is this?An arena FPS built off of TF2, foregoes most of the usual TF aspects like classes in favor of putting everyone on the same playing field>There's nobody playing!Stick around, arena FPS games are usually like this, but people will flock to servers if they see someone playing
>>11310993TF2 is not a boomer shooter. Faggot.
>>11311035>boomer shooterFaggot.
>>11311082Is that not what this thread is about? Faggot.
>>11311094They're called old FPS games, or retro I guess.Boomer Shooter was originally a term of mocking endearment from some people, which was fine at first until it became a trendy marketing term, now only wieners use it.Don't be a wiener.
Serious question, why is the zandro community still attached to complex and the bloat mods that go with it all these years later? Why is there no decent servers that aren't foreign that are playing something that isnt legendary or clusterfuck or HDAN or any of that other crap? Like I liked that shit too back in 2017 but why are they so slow to move on? Not trying to shitpost just genuine question.>curse you daed
>>11311098I always assumed it's a case of people not knowing any better. They're not aware of other mods out there, and the only people willing to host just use the same garbage as always, so everything becomes routine.
>>11310965That's the least of AMC Squad's problems.
>>11311098Going by what my zandro-playing friends have said, they think vanilla Doom is boring and like the ridiculous shit that Complex adds.
>>11311097"Boomer" has always been a forced meme that retards thought was organic. Any "oomer" variant is a great way to spot a tourist.
The Unreal Tournament 469 team has been uploading videos of new features that'll be in 469e to https://www.youtube.com/@UT1999-new-patch-info/videos.Interesting stuff:Hor+ widescreen: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F5cUR_sNWVoBots will no longer get stuck on ledges: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qFzb5S2UAsANew console command lets you change rendering device in game without having to restart the game: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OAL933bs35YMeshes will no longer stop rendering if they're out of the camera's center or behind the camera: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2N50hljvBDAHitscan will no longer cause FPS drops if you shoot at a long distance object in a map with lots of actors: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ExOWSoKiWYEasy culling unused textures so you can reduce map size and memory usage: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n42X8sUCgugIf something fell out of map, coordinates where it happened are now printed: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5okG85wyKowJoinPolys tools can easily fix BSP errors: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QerHyJRQPco
>>11311117That too.
>>11311121Neat. I wonder if progress had been made on the surreal engine.
>>11311082>FaggotFaggot.
>>11311110I am slowly being made aware of that, as I keep playing it more, but that one grinds my gears in particular because it's pure stupidity.
>>11311148This is actually kinda neat.https://demensdeum.com/demos/SurrealEngine/Emscripten port of Surreal engine running UT99 demo in-browser.Obviously the engine isn't finished yet, so atm it's just a map viewer really, but it's pretty cool regardless.
>>11311082>>11311097>>11311117I always thought the 30 yo boomer meme was kind of endearing. That being said, I'd rather just call them retro and retro-inspired. On the other hand we have stuff like Selaco, whose gameplay is supposed to be a little farther away. I'd just call those commercial TCs.TF2 is probably as much retro inspired as Serious Sam. Not quite the same thing as Doom or Quake but not as distanced as something like Counter Strike (even if this last one is a Half-Life mod).
>>11311098Other than what other anons said, people will usually join servers that already have people on them, so the best way to play something different is to bring a group of people yourself on a public server and let other randos join. Sometimes me and some friends do that when we want to play Ghouls vs Humans.Another thing. I feel like there isn't much Zandro modding these days, so not a lot of new zandro compatible stuff is coming out. The MM8BDM modding community is probably more active than the Doom side of zandro modding.
>>11311098I'm trying to fix that with my own server. It runs pretty vanilla stuff 90% of the time and then runs some lesser played stuff like shotgun frenzy and push for the other 10%. Megagame and LCA are a no-go though, there's enough of those already.
>>11309614Been working on the melee attacks here, and learning how to animate in 3D at the same time. I'll be fancying up the animations further in SLADE when I get to that point, but I think these first two melee strikes are good.Two down, four to go. Though I also need to update the textures a little more, and then paint over that shit.Still feeling pretty good about this, it's kinda cool.
>>11311489Reminds me of the cut melee combo system intended for Halo 2.
>>11311491Well I did take notes from the OG Halo 1 Assault Rifle bash for the first melee attack there. Though I went back and adjusted the left hand.For some reason Chief shifts his hand up to the top of the rifle as he throws his melee attack, I was copying it without even thinking about it, but that's a horrible idea as there's no way you'd generate the leverage you can get if you just keep your hand on the grip of your rifle.
>>11311491I was gonna link the magnum melee because damn that's cool as hell but I found this instead https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4_8XkDBB9tE
>>11311489id would have cut the middle part out entirelyjust saying
>>11311542Which middle part?
>>11311547the windup, where you pull it back
>>11311551Oh after the first melee attack? That's there just to serve as a reset in case the player just attacks once. I feel like it'd look weird and shitty if it just plays in reverse after the first attack, or just drops down without any additional frames.
>>11311489Might be worth increasing the width of the mesh overall or messing with the render cameras FOV to keep the weapons and limbs from feeling too thin. Probably best to edit the FOV desu imo frfr senpai desu
>>11311635I am not sure if I can alter the FOV here in Blockbench. I can only fiddle with the focal point in the angle settings, and same thing with the record gif command.
Thoughts on a sven co-op server? I got extra server space that needs used
>>11311585Wtf is that
been going through some horror wads, and this one is genuinely spooky for what it isalso hard as shit wtf man
>>11311680please run black ops 2 or whatever old cod that isn't some tactical crouch bullshit.
>>11311728I ain't the man for that job cause I don't like CoD
>>11311680You guys shouldn't do that, because then I will not be able to concentrate on my job. I used to LIVE in Sven-Coop servers as a teenager.
>>11301838>>11301839Next OP, you can probably kick the srb2kart server out of the OP text now. It already hosts 3 separate games now so it's weird to single out kart. I'll get a webpage setup soon enough with all the relevant info.
>>11311813It's just gonna be a one-day deal like kart and SNS. Worst case scenario, you lose your Fridays.
>>11311727send links, also lilith.pk3 is scarier most likely
>>11311943>Lilith.pk3>Scary
>>11311663Fair enough. Animation looks pretty impactful regardless. good stuf.
>>11312193I'm confident I can work my magic in SLADE once I get all that shit in game. Also I got the last attack made here, I was worried about it but I haven't heard any complaints, so maybe I am overthinking it.
Revenant, my lad.>*sliding wall sound* >'AAAAAAAA'>from behind sounds Mr. Bones announces the ride's open>sounds like he's not close, yet not far, but more importantly- one chaingunner dead ahead,>a duel at 10 paces away>he's quicker on the draw,>poppop-poppop- me>popopopoppop- him>he's not down yet and>'AAAAAA'>Mr Bones is off to the races>runs past me, brushing up my side, and engages in a semi secluded spot>I move to peek on the battle>'uuuUUAhh' -mancubus from behind the chaingunner>'ohh..'-Mr Bones takes out chaingunner>mancubus takes a shot>'AAAAAA' Mr Bones starts pummeling the mancubus>one two three punches>mancubus prepares to retaliate>[skeleton punch] : stunlock>oh shi-->four five six punches>[skeleton punch[ : miss!>he eats a volley>the ride does end:(
>>11305794tested it and nope, it only works on the stock Doom and Doom 2 textures (which has very obvious results on TNT MAP31)
>>11310182Fucking ace. >The really big maps have been split up into smaller maps, we know many aren't happy with hour long levelsDammit, ah well. Bring it the fuck on.
>>11305794I updated my copy of GZDoom specifically to play this mod and now loading saves or new levels takes at minimum 30 seconds.Fuck this source port
any doom wads with lots of neon and color? think of las vegas and tons of flashing billboards
>>11312245What you're looking for friend, is Augur Zenith.To a T.
>>11312217>most beautiful poem
>>11312253shit, i'm retarded. it was listed in this thread for fucks sake. thanks.
>>11310182Oh, I want in. How do I make a Mjolnir map? I promise you'll get no drama from me if it is too awful and gets rejected.
any slaughterwads based on real places?
>>11312197and I got the combo in game, we'll see if I need to fuck around with this more, but with any luck I can start painting over shit soon.
someone bake
>>11312518The Unholy Trinity, Hartlepool 6th Form College, Manglers, Oxford St. John's College, UAC Ultra 2
>>11312520Ah that looks a lot better in game. The gif was underwelming to meWhat's that alternate Rev at the end?
>>11312520
>>11312591>What's that alternate Rev at the end?It's from hellforgred, though it sees uses in other places too. I thought it's from realm667, but I didn't see it there.
>>11312594Well I got the frames as you can see, just running it by some folks here and there to see if it looks good enough, and the reception has been pretty warm. So soon I'll be painting over these frames to seal the deal. After that it'll be the laser glaive attacks, the subweapon attacks, and then the sentinel arms.At some point I'll need to make the idle animations too. I got a lot of shit to do if I'm gonna want to get this update out before the year's end.
>>11312591Yeah, like I've told a lot of other folks: I never strain myself too hard with example animations made in Aseprite, as anything I do there will be discarded once I get into SLADE, so no sense in going too hard for examples.and yeah that alt Revenant is called a Draugr from Hellforged. He's been around for awhile.
>>11310519This. I was actually gonna make a post about ambiance mods for Doom 1+2, like footstep sounds, wind howling, metal creaking, weather, demon noises, etc. I looked around for footstep mods and found 2 with some generalized googling. Immerse (https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=61915) was first and it seems like a camera mod more than anything BUT it also has a setting for footstep volume and adds footstep sounds obviously. The other mod I found was ZFootsteps (https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=35388), which is very straight forward. It just adds footsteps sounds when you move. Different sounds based on the floor type, like metal, wood, grass, etc. I don't like the specific sounds used, but it seems like exactly what I'd want from a footstep sound mod ALTHOUGH it does lack a volume control for the footsteps. Any other anons got some ambiance/sound mods they'd like to share with us on this spooky month?
>>11310957hell yeah!
