>"The system went on to sell a worldwide total of 24 million units, including 16 million in North America; however, Microsoft was unable to make a steady profit off the console, which had a manufacturing price far more expensive than its retail price, despite its popularity, losing over $4 billion during its market life. With its initial retail price of $299, Microsoft lost about $125 for every system sold, which cost $425 to manufacture, meaning that the company would have to rely on software sales in order to make any money. These losses were further exacerbated in April 2002, when Microsoft lowered the retail price of the Xbox even further to $199 in order to further driving hardware sales."The Chad's at Microsoft gifted to the world a $425 powerhouse for only $199. Chuds came along and proceeded to pirate it blind, and now they are in their 40s complaining on online imageboards about how the game industry went to shit because making good systems and games that put the gamer first aren't profitable anymore. Lmao.
>meaning that the company would have to rely on software sales in order to make any money.I mean, that's exactly what Sony did too, Microsoft just copied the winning formula.
i didnt play on exxberks because im pc masterace and could pirate much more efficiently on my isdn connection via IRC and early p2p. consoles were for loosers back then
>>11329809Except they had the superior exclusives and more power system that had the best version of 90% of the multiplats.
FIRST FOR PLAYING FABLE WHILE LISTENING TO AMERICAN IDIOT THROUGH THE SYSTEM MENU
>>11329826"I would rather sit hunched over in a dark cave by myself, than play in the living room with others"
>>11329859You aren't supposed to post reaction images to your own post, newfriend
>>11329859The Xbox brand is dying. Cope all you wish.
>>11329859poor anon couldnt afford a pc with a voodoo card, i dont reddit either btwm
>>11329787Some useful links:Custom length 80-pin IDE cable for SATA adapters.https://www.laserbear.net/products/xbox-udma-ide-replacement-cable-80-wire-ata-cableThe Go-To SATA adapter for Xbox consoles.https://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00EOJNGC2
>>11329787>we lost that means you won>please like me Xbox fans I swear
>>11329787Woooh I love PAYING TO PLAY MY OWN GAMES LETS GOOOOOOOOO
the absolute state of xbox fans
>>11329961>I wish I had a dvd player and online in my cubeThat's all it comes down to
>>11329892>Custom length 80-pin IDE cable for SATA adapters.you can do it with a standard 80pin, hdd ends up upside down however. and you'll break at least one ribbon trying it but realisticly just set your bios to skip the dvd check and remove the optical entirely
>>11330425There's tutorials for folding 24in cables in a way that everything works
>>11329787I never pirated a game. I just downloaded roms and emulators to old 80s and 90s games that were 2D.God, I love Xbox.
Fuck consoles past 7th gen, the xbox one has manufactured obsolescence, you can no longer put an xbox profile on an external storage.>if your hard drive crashes when they eventually discontinue live support for the xbox one>All you save data is gone>you would not be able to download your profile>which contains the offline license for not only your game downloads>but now your save data as well….
>>11329889>voodoo cardThe xbox had some geforce 3 in it, autist. It shat all over your aging incel voodoo card.
>>11333501Doesn't the xbone have a bit of a cracking scene now?
>>11334397there's research being done, i think someone managed to dump halo 5 and get some assets, but theres currently no way to actually pirate xbox one games afaik.
>>11329787The OG Xbox is an interesting console. It had PC games, but PC gamers weren't buying a console to play them on a console and it lacked the definitive PC game, Deus Ex, despite the PS2 version existing. Sony gamers weren't switching due to the fact Xbox had very little support from Japan, and the titles they released never made any sense. The console was legit carried by 2 games.. Halo CE and Halo 2. It's insane that the OG Xbox maintained life thanks to that 1 franchise and that Microsoft corrected the Japan problem with the 360.
>>11329859Based. Fucking Norwood redditors and their over-representation in PC gaming communities.
>>11334825my grandma got it for me because I had no other console and the guy at the store said the spiderman game was best on itthanks, Grandma
Are there any multiplats that ended up being WORSE on Xbox? Seems like the Xbox just had a ton more power than the PS2 and was able to serve a better experience with non exclusive games
>>11336935crash twinsanity has worse lighting on xbox
>>11329787>gifted to the world a $425 powerhouse for only $199And yet no one cared, because video games back then were about fun, tradition, passion and the SONY PLAYSTATION brand.
>>11337141Yup, my neighbor had an Xbox that we played halo and halo 2 on, but that's really it. Playstation was where it was at
>>11334825Vendetta landing on GC but not Xbox is very unusual. The console itself wedged its appeal as a distinctly hardcore experience. For gamers who wanted to experiment with new ideas and technology. It got all these interesting sequels and versions of PC games, usually excellent ports like Max payne on xbox runs at a solid 60 almost entirely from beginning to end, except a drop during the Asgard Building where it tickles 40 or so. Even then that only happens in one room. This is in comparison to the PS2 version which runs unacceptably poor for a console that handles the far more impressive Devil May Cry at a locked 60.Microsoft offered something for all kinds of markets too. I'm into snowboarding games and Amped 1 and 2 are some of the best in the genre. Super technical and satisfying to execute in. A friend of mine who's into golf lavishes the Links series on Xbox, wouldn't surprise me if it's for the same reasons I love Amped.What it shared with the competition is one thing, most people these days talk about how it had the best multiplats (which it did to an extent) but its unique identity is far more interesting to uncover.
>>11329787You guys remember to replace your bulging compacitors, right?
>>11337336Of course
>>11337178I truthfully loved my Xbox. I know it essentially became my Halo machine in the end of its life, but man did it have some really great ideas and power behind it. I think Microsoft just dropped the ball in terms of software. Like, pic related. Imagine liking any of these titles on Xbox and then realizing that so many more entries are on the competitor's system. Xbox is also the only console that didn't receive a Resident Evil game; not even ports of 1-3 (which the Dreamcast got, but was old hat obviously).
>>11337361I have to disagree with you about the software. So many of the games that did land on there, especially after Live launched made the Xbox a totally unique experience. Free DLC, excellent online play and integration with other games. Having it at the time would have been a stand out affair but going back to it today? Everyone knows Splinter Cell looks better, but it also has exclusive DLC that's only on Xbox. There's so much worth playing on there.
>>11337375Such as anon? Not disagreeing with you, mind you, but I truthfully couldn't tell you. I just know a lot of killer games and sequels or spin-offs didn't make it to the Xbox, but I also know that Xbox had the superior hardware and superior online gaming service with LIVE.
>>11336935Marvel vs. Capcom 2 is worse on Xbox than Dreamcast because it's based on the downgraded PS2 version instead of the Dreamcast version. Only game I can think of that's outright worse and not a mixed bag. I wonder if CvS2 would be the same since it was from around the same time.Shenmue II has some messed up graphics from the lack of order-independent transparency.
>>11337336>>11337345Thankfully my board caps still look fine despite being a 1.0 revision Just the clock cap was burst
as popular of a console to mod as the xbox is, its certainly a bit tough to find good info on how to do it. I have everything picked out, a mod chip, a bios, a dashboard... but when it comes to shoving those all together, i cant find a ton of info
>>11337384As far as exclusives go (at least console exclusives), Both Amped games are stellar, Armed and Dangerous is a riot, Blinx 1 and 2 are slept on through titters of magazine taglines but are solid platform games once you get a grasp on them. Blood Wake is still a unique boat combat game, and Microsoft had a swing at flight combat with Crimson Skies, a truly impeccable game. Breakdown is well known these days but the melee combat is mechanical and satisfying. Challenging game too. Call of Cthulu has its best version on Xbox, the PC one being terminally buggy. Carve is by Argonaut and is this excellent blend of SSX and Wave Race 64, Conker has awesome online but a more enjoyable SP than the N64 original, Crimson Sea is a cool Japanese TPS game that got a sequel on PS2 only. Deathrow is a sick combat sports game, Dungeons and Dragons Heroes is one of many games that scratches that itch for more Gauntlet style games. Enclave is 3D Fantasy action by the guys who made Riddick, Far Cry Instincts is a really cool adaptation of the PC original with its own unique twists, Galleon is a Toby Gard game and has this free form and wild movement that fits his style for games. Gun Valkyrie is an intense TPS with lots of depth. Indiana Jones may as well be exclusive with how much it has over the PS2 version, same with the Lord of the Rings Fellowship of the Ring. Magatama is a cool Japanese only action game right up there with Otogi. Midtown Madness is chaotic fun that only gets better the more you play it, Outrun 2 and 2006 are well known, as is Panzer Dragoon Orta. Phantom Crash is lesser known but s very good Genki mech action game that got a PS2 sequel: SLAI. Phantom Dust is a Yukio Futatsugi deathmatch game with a cool deck building premise for battles and an eerie post apoc setting. Scrapland is a fun trip, Both Unreal Championship games rule, 2 especially, Whacked is a great party game.
From the Xbox, whhat are your time five games, the ones you can play over and over again.>Halo.>Mechassault.>Spiderman 2.>Soul Calibur 2.>The Bards Tale(Folk were looking for Fable but they were out, and got this instead.(
>>11338826Don’t forget the extra ram
>>11329787Why did he laugh at them while accepting a Nintendo that killed his career and the sales of RE4Resident Evil could have thrived on Xbox
>>11339009>>11339009Capcom partnered with Nintendo and wanted the big titles to be Gamecube-exclusive from the beginning of the gen, until they realized it'd be retarded to miss out on that PS2 money with RE4.
>>11338937mechassault is always a hard recommend for me. I have a ton of memories with that game and was the only game I got to play on Live
>>11340937I can feel that. The first one is very simple and very repetitve, but thats why I like it. Its simple. I can turn my brain off and, outside of that Thor mission and BA mission where youre running away from an Atlas, I think its pretty dang fantastic.>Grinder on Coop, managed to get to five mechs at once with my neighbor before we died. Took an hour.
>>11337336>not using polymer caps
>>11341325Where did you source polymer caps?
>>11337336D-do I really have to replace other capacitors than the clock capacitor?
>>11341935Eventually
>>11341935All electrolytic caps have the ability to leakThe CPU and other board caps are better than the clock cap, but still were made in the capacitor plague eraIt would be good to as soon as you notice any bulging And if you replace one, you might as well replace them all while you're in there
>>11341184im having a lot more fun with it on Elite. It hasnt been hyper punishing, but I do have to be more mindful about positioning and avoiding damage has become more important than simply dishing it out
>>11341926I used these in that Xboxhttps://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/661-APSC6R3ETD152MJBrated lifetime 15,000 hoursripple current 5.56AESR 10 mOhms
>>11336935Phantasy Star Online requires an Xbox Live account. It cannot be started without one on drive.
>>11338937If I could only have access to 5 Xbox games for the rest of my life, and I had others to play them with, I'm picking:Jet Set Radio FutureDead Or Alive 3Halo: Combat Evolved, Halo 2, Timesplitters 2, Timesplitters: Future Perfect, Counterstrike, Unreal Championship II, or Star Wars: BattlefrontStar Wars: Knights Of The Old Republic, or FableKung Fu Chaos, Fuzion Frenzy, or Whacked!And Sonic Riders perhaps>>11338086Raw, Raw 2, and Wrestlemania 21 are on here twice
>>11334825If you're gonna count Subsistence and Snake Eater as different games you might as well put Sons of Liberty on this chart.
>>11333501The OG Xbox has planned obsolescence. You don't think they didn't know what they were doing putting those exploding caps on the mobo?
It was a great system. More people would have bought one if it came with windows. Everyone needed a PC, and spent at least as much for one.
>>11343916It was an industry issue All caps from the early 2000s love to burstJust ask anyone who builds Win98 systems
>>11344362also the smd electrolytic caps are garbage, on an Xbox they are all on their way out but for some reason every 1.3 version Xbox they are still in excellent shape. I have a Panasonic VCR that needs 200 of those little bastards changed.
Day 843 of waiting for xemu dev to merge the pull requests and release a new version.Any day now...
>>11341325What about the power unit caps should I change those too?
>>11329859I do this with my xbox one hooked up to my monitor
>>11329787That's why they rushed the 360 out of the door in 2006 and completely removed this thing from shelves, shit was bleeding them dry. Also why Gaylo 3 came out for the next one instead of the first.
>>11345528this game is complete and utter shit
>>11345590>That's why they rushed the 360 out of the door in 2006In 2005. And that caused the entire RROD shitshow.
>>11336935Matrix Path of Neo. Shit looked horrendous.
>>11345752To be fair that was more the cooling solution not being adequate (basically the og Xbox cooling but 1 extra small fan and some plastic) the solder problem effected pc and the ps3 as well and the failure rate wasn't as highJust look at the cooling solution for the 360 fat Vs the one x for how it should've been done for similar power consumptionNot saying it wouldn't have had the rrod if was better cooled but it wouldn't have been as common
>>11345789I never got to play it even though I wanted to
>>11345801Play/emulate the PS2 version. It feels sick playing as Neo and most of the missions are fun.
>>11345797Had fuck all to do with cooling, can't believe people still spread this bs when there is a definitive answer to what caused it
>>11345549The Xbox in that picture had every electrolitic cap replaced, but it's kind of a cost benefit thing, if I'm gonna put ram, cpu and/or a high end mod chip in an Xbox, then I don't want some tard with an aliexpress soldering iron upgrading the caps and fuck it up and I'll change all the caps, on the other hand if it's just an average Xbox with only a few game saves and no evidence of bulging caps I might not change any caps and if the Xbox has evidence of lots of hours like it's full of music and tons of game saves then I'll change the cpu caps and caps at the front of the power supply. Regardless bulging caps always get replaced.
>>11329787jerking off loss leader tactics is pretty short sighted. they don't do that without expecting to get dominance
>>11345972*also as an aside people used to swear up and down that loss leading was a myth. It wasn't some shit like a game journalist would casually say until it was in Microsoft documents that came out in legal discovery.
>>11343916The original xbox is extremely rough to keep running so many years laterShitty capsHard driveDVD driveIt's a lot to keep maintained and ultimately means if a Xbox is still functioning after so many year it pretty much HAS to be modded
It truly is the weirdest console when looking at what Microsoft was doing with software.
>>11346296I love Panzer Dragoon Orta and JSRF, but man, you had to be a hardcore diehard Sega fag who had a dreamcast in the previous gen and was versed in their nichest IPs to give a shit about something like Shenmue II, Panzer Dragoon, Spikeout or Rent a Hero. Sonic Adventure and Skies of Arcadia on GC and Shinobi & Space Channel 5 on PS2 were just more interesting.
>>11346332Just wild what Microsoft thought they should have on the platform is wild. A console with no Resident Evil; the only console, in fact, to not have a RE title that gen. And no VF is even more baffling when they spent money on Tao Feng. There's more I'd like to add and look at, even maybe widen it for GC, but it's just insane Microsofts logic on things.
Why didn't they make banjo threeie where the fuck did they go what the fuck did they even do
>>11346402collectathons were a dead genre by 2001 in terms of growth and they focused on milking FPS while it was the fad
>even if i do mod my xbox, there's still no one to play Crimson Skies withNyoro~n
>>11329826>consoles were for loosers35+ year old pcfat still can’t spell
>>11346296
>>11347335No one is using insignia besides the 15 discord troons on their official server
>>11347923well then what the fuck are people using, insignia is the only thing that gets talked about
>>11347931Join their shitcord and beg them for a crimson skies event, or host a game yourself and hope someone will join
>>11347973but what are people using that isn't insignia tho
>>11347978The answer is nothing and I've never seen anyone bitch about this stuff except for here. But I haven't played anything on it I just have my xbox set up with it. So what do I know
>>11347980thanks for nothing i guess.
>>11346332Microsoft really wanted to court the hardcore audience which is why they got very specific Sega games.
>>11329787the early xbox years were awesome. everyone having a mic on xbox live was so cool. still some of the most fun i've ever had.
Why is this game so expensive, and does it deserve to be so expensive?
>>11348431I'd never heard of it.
Two games I loved on this thing were Voodoo Vince and Mad Dash Racing.
>>11336935Xbox may have had superior hardware but the video encoder was dogshit, the image you got ona TV was blurred and smeared to hell
>>11347335I'll play with you but I've been really busy lately, will probably have time towards the end of the week or the weekend.We still need to play Gauntlet too.
>>11329787These consoles are still easy to find for cheap since you can find a bunch of junk consoles with easy repairs needed. I would also reflow the solder on the power plug connector.
>>11348536Shitty games that didnt sell at launch can spike up once the games for that console become collectable. Its the reason Beastwars for N64 slowly spiked up.
had to stop myself from buying games the last time I visited my local store since im planing on modding my xbox very soon
>>11345925Not that guy and feel free to correct me if I'm wrong but it was the shitty lead free solder cracking and causing chips to warp and lift off the board that did it, right? Or am I mistaking that for E74? Or was it the same issue? I had it happen to two of them so I can't remember which is which.
>>11338858Phantom Dust got an Xbox One port that's worth a try too.
Why do Xbox games look so washed out compared to GC games? It's like the gamma is turned way up for some reason. PS2 also suffers from this but not as much as Xbox.
>>11338858metal dungeon is wizardry on the xbox
I've got a disc drive error with my Xbox. It won't extend without the paper clip or a disc inside. There a way to fix it? Guy at a local shop says I'll probably need to canabalize another Xbox for a drive.
>>11351548If you go on console5, he sells drive belts and capacitors you can change on the drive. The caps are easier to deal with than the main board so it's not a long or complicated job. Replacing the belt is easy too. It's usually the laser going bad that fucks people but doesn't sound like your issue.
>>11351548I have an unburnt CD that I shove inside my Xbox with "clean the drive, asshole" written on it in big lettersMeans I can leave a disk in the tray without risking anything with data on it and my tray opens flawlessly so long as something is in there. No clue why it only has issues when the tray is empty. You would think it would be the other way around
>>11329859I generally hate people, so yes.
>>11348431It's one of the best 3D beat em ups and I guess people realized that.
I've got an Xbox 1.6 that I want to mod so I can run games off the HDD. What mods would be considered essential? And how hard is it to mod/replace the HDD anyway?
>>11329787i dont care, its ugly as fuck, everything about the xbox is hideous. the only positive thing id say about it is that it probably made sony developers more competitive therefore making better ps2 games
>>11352747tsop mod this way you can just drop in a new storage device and start fresh.
This link should be in the op if we're going to starting having generals (which we shouldn't):https://consolemods.org/wiki/Xbox:Original_Xbox_Mods_Wiki42 people playing Halo 2 atm, is that like a new record?>>11352747Rocky5 with Endgame softmod and nulled HDD key, very easy to achieve. You only need a female USB to Xbox cable and a dumb USB flash drive.https://github.com/Rocky5/Xbox-Softmodding-Tool>>113527641.6 cannot be tsop flashed.
>>11352817>42 people playing Halo 2 atm, is that like a new record?I think it was close to 1000 on day 1
>>11334825Sony had a nearly complete monopoly on developers during the PS1/PS2 eras because the competition (Sega and Nintendo) were making too many mistakes. It started with the 5th gen and kept going on all the way through the 6th gen. Sega released the Saturn (before PS1) that had hardware that was difficult to program for and they got retailers and some major devs angry for releasing too early. Nintendo had a system that was limited by its cartridge space. Sony had easy to use hardware, enough space (CDs), good dev tools and a lot of financial resources for marketing and buying the exclusive rights of games.When the 6th gen started Sega was the first to release their new console but had limited financial resources because of their commercially failed past projects. Nintendo wasn't so hot because many consumers and devs had not touched the N64. Microsoft was a newcomer whose console didn't sell well in Japan. Sony was the 2nd to release their console which had a lot of hype behind it because of the success of the PS1 it also had backwards compatibility with the latter. Sony also outsold everyone even if you'd combine their numbers. The rest is history. In hindsight there was no reason for devs to even release games on anything but PS2 as far as 6th consoles are concerned.
>>11351580Nah I've not had any issues with reading or the timeclock, though I'm not sure what model I've got. I'll check him out, thanks.>>11351591Maybe I should do the same. Write a prayer on the disc and all that. Ask the Unseen Forces to let me have a working drive.
>>11352817why no general? There are plenty others on this board
>>11352846Xbox wasnt even a twinkle in Gate's eye when the PS1 and Saturn released They didn't even consider breaking into the console market before the Dreamcast
>>11353174No, that is true. I read how they first wanted to step into the console market after the PS2 got announced in 1999. PS2 was being marketed as some sort of multimedia computer initially too. MS felt very threatened by that.
What are some examples of multiplats that are noticeably better on Xbox? Like any where you would find it kinda hard to go back to the PS2, GCN or PC counterparts? I know at a core level nearly all games look and sound better on Xbox due to Progressive Scan, cleaner video output and Dolby Digital, and most games usually have better textures and anti-aliasing, but at least from what i've seen, most just seem to be graphicsfag stuff that you would kinda have to squint between screenshots of different versions to notice the difference, or stuff that would have gone unnoticed on a 480i CRT back in the day. Are there any that make good use of the capabilities of the system to noteworthy improvement, or even have some gameplay elements downgraded on/upgraded from other versions?The biggest examples are "enhanced versions" of games like Genma Onimusha, THPS2X and Tenchu: Return from Darkness but i'd like to know somewhat more conventional instances. The Splinter Cell games are great examples of this too, with the Gamecube and PS2 versions having noticeably downgraded graphics and also levels cut down into several sections with loading times, instead of one big area. Chaos Theory might actually look and run better on PC but it's missing the Co-Op, and Double Agent is definitely best on Xbox since the PC version is the 7th gen one lol
>>11353735Ghost Recon 2? Although the PS2 version is a totally different game. Generally unless it's done like that or it's PC+Xbox only you aren't getting more than some nicer textures/lighting.
>>11353735>but it's missing the Co-OpStill playable via LAN, and therefore works online through tunneling software like Hamachi.
>>11352817Thanks brew
>>11353848Anon probably meant split-screen.
>>11329787>How dare you hurt the multi billion dollar corporation that is manipulating global politics! >Lefty grifter "chud" buzzwordsOp confirmed faggot. Xbox rest in shit lololol
>>11348840It's an N64 style problem. The vaseline filter was software configurable. If you can set it to the lowest the output is pin sharp but games have it baked into their code and some of them have it turned up to 8. Last I checked there are some patches to fix this but there's no universal fix.
>>11353182>>11353174It depends on how you define when the collective Microsoft "wanted to" do a console. Because sure, the complete idea of a "DirectX Box" wasn't really a thing until the DC, but the idea of a living room set top box that would help Microsoft extend their market into the communal spaces of a house was a thing they had been toying with since the early 90s. But like all such concepts many MANY ideas form and die in planning stages before a proper product happens.The xbox happened because all those malformed ideas over the years all managed to come together in some fashion to push the idea forwards. And some of the failures helped keep the bad ideas away. A gaming console with internet support built in, xbox live and such happened, but the WebTV side of life was left to rot. No reason Xbox couldn't have had a web browser and a streaming TV thing but they (correctly) chose not to waste time and money on it. And they were definitely right because allowing the "TV" folk back into the meetings was a big bucket of cold water on the xbox one announcement even before they dropped the ball with activation.
Is Xemu the go-to for Xbox emulation? How is it? I wanna play Crazy Taxi 3 but this is--somehow--the first time I've ever ran across an Xbox game I wanted to play.
>>11353174Why did he decide Microsoft should get into the home console market?
>no android emulator>can't get retro achievements while I sit on a trainIn the trash.
>>11353959>multi billion dollar corporation that is manipulating global politicsNot him but holy shit meds takey.
>>11355158Sony's idea with the PlayStation was to supercede the PC as the home computer MS saw this as a direct challenge to their business and decided to give it a go themselves
Tanking hardware loss money and burning money on advertising is what giant corporations like Sony and a Microsoft are able to do, it's one of the bigger upperhands they have against video game companies like Sega or Nintendo (on top of owning CD-pressing factories, like Sony).But that doesn't make them good guys. Microsoft still imposed charging for an online service first and wanted to take consoles on a different (worse) route than the japanese.The place we are now is thanks to Microsoft and Sony.
How?
