jrpgs during fall and winter are peak cozywhat games have you been playing lately? I am this far into Chrono trigger and I'm probably gonna to play superstar saga next
I've been playing Lagrange Point for NES because the FM music (its an expansion audio game) interested me. Actual game is whatever, though. Basic spam attack combat, random encounters every 10 steps, using a basic attack drains mp for some reason,
>>11332862>what games have you been playing lately?I've also been playing Chrono Trigger for the first time. I just completed all the endgame sidequests and am about to beat up the final boss. This may be my favorite SNES RPG of all time, I wish I'd played it as a kid.
Almost to the end of Disc 3 in FFIX. At Ipsen's castle where the attack calculation is different so you do more dmg with weaker weapons. Picrel less than 15 min ago.
>>11332862What are the longest JRPGs for each console? I just completed Megami Tensei 2 for the Famicom and it took me 63 hours.
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>>11332886DQ6 for SNESDQ7 for PS1Persona 3 for PS2don't know about the rest
Are there any recently translated Snes rpgs that are actually worth playing.
>>11332882modded to hell I see
>>11333023Just Moguri Mod (8.3, the newer ones have worse character models IMO). Everything is upscaled, 30fps, orchestral music, 4K widescreen so you can see parts of backgrounds not even shown in the original (I downsized that pic).My favorite part is that it cuts out the pre-battle intros, and you can set a general speed and a separate battle speed to get the feel you like. And none of it messes with the music.Lookin' Good :P
>>11333102>widescreenso modded to hell, then
>>11333102>upscaled>widescreen
Are there any comfy life simmy jarpigs like harvest moon you'd recommend? Doesn't have to be farming related.
>>11333231>>11333251The backgrounds were often drawn larger than displayed on the PS1, so nothing has to be stretched. The 3D parts can just be rendered wider.Go back to your picrel 480i.
>>11333273>posts a picture that looks very goodWhat did he mean by this?
>>11333287It's called personal preference.It's my favorite game, I've played it many ways and pick my favorite.
>>11332882>>11333273>indoor shade just completely goneWhy would someone do this?
>>11333551Because some idiot probably thought it was "too dark" and they knew better than the creators.
>>11333272The middle (and, depending on which route you pick, last) third of Radiata Stories. Also, not retro, but the Rune Factory series.
I'm either going to play through Vagrant Story or Final Fantasy Tactics. Only ever started them and goofed around for a level or two.
Going through SD Gundam Gaiden - Knight Gundam Monogatari 3 after playing 2. 2 was okay at best but 3 is pretty good so far.
>>11333273desu this looks better
>>11332862Just passed that part and got Magus on the squad. Going through the new DS quests before I revive Crono
>>11333272Dark Cloud.
>>11332862Replaying dragon quest 8 in preparation for 3 remake, waiting on brothership before starting anything else. Enjoy superstar saga, gba kino of the highest order.
>>11332931Persona 3 FES is seriously a damn good time eater if you want to 100% it. Persona 4 Golden ain't too shabby either.
>>11334212>Because some idiot probably thought it was "too dark" and they knew better than the creators. The creators would have gladly rather had more resolution to work with than what the PS1 offered. Hell, I even think the developers would have preferred it be an action RPG in stead of turn based.I prefer it my way and will take a missing shadow for being able to see characters, weapons, and textures in detail. It plays more fluidly, too. I would not play the game on ps1 today, and I still have my ps1 copy.Fuck "original vision," a game exists solely as it is in the player's mind. If you cannot override your cynicism with imagination then maybe jarpigs aren't for you?
>>11335052More detail is one thing, flattening the lighting and removing shadows that make the scene feel dynamic and realistic is quite another.
>>11332869I'd say there is more to it than that when you factor in the weapons customization and the non linearility of the scenario at some point. Plus there are tons of characters to choose from and it has great graphical presentation.I wonder if you'll find out the almost self-sustaining system I had going in the end game.>random encounters every 10 stepsThat's a low encounter rate by Famicom standard
>>11335112You wouldn't without a side-by-side. I agree the shadow makes the scene look better (I am running an old version of the mod, and they claim to have corrected hundreds of visual things in the years since my version), but you don't notice when actually playing the game and the higher fidelity of everything else makes it a better experience overall to me.I can actually see what a tonberry is shaped like. I can actually see the intricate patterns on the weapons, I can read text and signs that you never could on the PS1. Anyway, it's almost time to get some beer and get through one of the worst parts of the game (Bran Bal) before doing Ozma and the flying castle Memoria.
>>11335151>You wouldn't without a side-by-side.NTA and I immediately noticed the pictured looked terrible because it lacked shading, didn't know it was supposed to have some until after
>>11335158Okay, it bothers me too, but not enough.Just because I want to ramble, see how the ending dungeon is an homage to that one north american poster for the original Final Fantasy? I think there may be some sort of anime that referenced this imagery lol.
I recently gave up on Tales of Phantasia because the encounter rate and slow combat was bogging it all down.If you're up for something sort of October/Fall themed I highly recommend Koudelka for the PSX, fantastic voice acting and a decently fun little combat system.Don't make the same mistake I did and try Laplace's Demon (Laplace no Ma). It's aesthetically very cool but slow paced and pretty dull.
Finished Vandal Hearts II for the first time last week. Gonna fire up a new jarpig later today, probably another PS1 one.
>>11332862Does Wizardry 1 count?
>>11335198If it's a port by Japanese devs, kinda
>>11332882>I like this game so much that I'm going to play it with in an aspect ratio the creators never meant it to have, with textures brought to you by the same tier of moron that does GTA VICE CITY ULTRA HD 1080P TEXTURE PACK in his spare time, and the music, originally by some of the best, most acclaimed professional composers and producers in the history of videogames, but rearranged, reinstrumentated and remixed by some random faggot whose idea of improving it is making it MORE ORCHESTRAL because that's MORE EPICAnd keep in mind I don't even particularly like IX
>>11335203Yeah the PS1 version is full of moon runes.
>>11335223Yes, correct. And I say that while holding the PS1 Disc 2 from my teenage years (I bought 3 copies in the '00s) up on one finger with the PC launcher on the screen.Enjoyment > purity.
>>11335223It looks true to the original aside from the lack of lighting though.
>>11333340It's actually called bad taste.
>>11335253>And I say that while holding the PS1 Disc 2 from my teenage years (I bought 3 copies in the '00s)Well there you go, you bought 3 (three) copies. If it was only 2, I would call you a latecomer poser faggot who missed out on the original and is able to enjoy this tacky bullshit because he plain doesn't get what makes it good, but 3 copies? You're right, it looks great, and I bet le epic orchestral music is majestic. If only Nobuo Uematsu would've thought of making it more epic. They probably didn't give him enough copies of the game.>>11335263>It looks true to the original aside from one of the biggest contributing factors on what a game looks likeDon't make me post the gif again. But seriously though, if it looks true to the original, why use it in the first place?
>>11335307If only Uematsu could use violins, pianos, guitars, and cellos in stead of MIDI-tier noises... Then he probably would've.
>>11332862I was deep into Legend of Dragoon, just began disc 4, but now I'm working 100 hrs a week so that is on hold for a bit. Would hope to resume after I'm done with this nonsense but it's the holiday season and my job is going to make me insane.
>>11335339If you think improving instrumentation is as simple as replacing one sound with another one, then you and your shitty HD EPIC REMIX versions of the originals are made for each other. Enjoy them. You should put some ENB ReShade raytracing bloom mods on the graphics too: after all, if they had access to the tech back in the day, they probably would've used it. Finally, just so you come out of this learning something: MIDI doesn't make any sounds, and all your favorite modern music, including your favorite EPIC ORCHESTRAL HANS ZIMMER movie soundtracks use MIDI in some capacity or other.
>>11335416Again, I played the original when it came out. Many times. But I pref what I run, hence why I do so.For example:https://youtu.be/-3NF3V-awk8?si=NFeHMAVWuqSWuRfW
>>11332882That looks terrible compared to >>11333273Is that really how Moguri looks or did you add some extra mods on top of it?I thought Moguri was actually supposed to be decent, but I guess not. Disgusting.
>>11335223Yes, but unironically.I think that FF9 screenshot looks trash, but I do actually like upscaling and widening the aspect ratio on games when possible.For that gen I typically use downsampling with CRT shaders, but sometimes I think straight upscaling, like FF7 PC, looks great. I played through FF7 like that a month ago, and it really made the colors pop excellently on my OLED while looking good on such a big screen -- so it seemed pointless not to use the mods.I think the recomposed tracks fit the fresher looks more, too.It's all personal preference, though, of course.
>>11335504It looks amazing in motion compared to the orig. Like blows my mind amazing. But yes, just moguri, that's it. My version is like pre-covid and their site says they've been working on visual fixes for years so IDK. I don't like their new charThere's a lot of pastel shit from the pre-rendered backround upscales but I think it's great, especially compared to the PS1.
>>11335180>Tales of Phantasia because the encounter rateIt works as intended. You were supposed to use holy bottles to lessen the encounter rate.
>>11335520no offense man but your opinions are garbage
>>11335616No offense man but I don't care
>>11335621keep this shit to yourself, noone wants to see these lookin good images.
I guess this is probably the best place on this site to ask. what retro Pokémon games are worth playing in your opinion?
>>11336386the retro games are the only ones worth playing
>>11335307>if it looks true to the original, why use it in the first place?The original assets tend to look bad/jaggy/blurry at higher resolution, and using higher poly models or larger size textures that look very close to the originals is theoretically good and in the case of those screenshots is one of the few times it's been done right, minus the lighting. Fans did it better with FF8 as well, compared to the official remaster.
>this fan mod is actually MORE like the devs intended!Absolutely full retard. I'd post a drawing of someone with his brains bashed in but it would bump the thread. Good job ruining a perfectly fine thread too.
>>11334337>Going through the new DS quests before I revive CronoOh GOD.
>>11332872Checking back in, just beat the game and I really enjoyed it. My only complaints would be that the position-based part of the battle system was kind of half-baked and underutilized (especially once you can easily cast full-screen spells consistently about halfway through the game) and the difficulty in the last quarter of the game is too low for the most part. Other than that, it's practically my ideal JRPG in every way and definitely top tier among all retro JRPGs. I wish it had been more influential or got a sequel so that some of its less fleshed out or experimental gameplay elements could be expanded and refined in a more challenging game. All that said, I started on NG+ and look forward to playing more and trying for different endings.
>>11332862>what games have you been playing lately?Started blind playthrough of some weird japanese Star Trek spinoff.Battles are button-mashy, locations are clutered as hell and there are so many submenus.Story seems captivating though.
So what's the hardest JRPG out there? One that actually requires some strategy and isn't just some grindfest?No mods
>>11337245>One that actually requires some strategySurging Aura
>>11337245>So what's the hardest JRPG out there?Do you consider not knowing where to go and what to do hard? If not then I dont really know what to tell you. JRPGs are designed to get easier if you put in the work and improve your character.
I started playing FFII PR again after running into how fucked the physical attack status effects were before the console update about halfway through originally and got annoyed with it, then found out the absurd encounter rate (which because of how stats work GBA and later has resulted in having fucktarded amounts of HP and evasion) is actually specific to this version. Unfortunately 22 of the last 25 doors I walked through being empty rooms and the shitty enemy variety presumably is not. Wonder if there's a PSX romhack to change magic interference back to how it was in WSC, but playing through 70% of empty rooms the game again doesn't sound that immediately appealing and it sure is nice having magic interference actually displayed as an equipment stat.
>>11337245Hardest one I've played is probably Shinsenden on Famicom. You need to grind, a LOT (but fights can be super fast if you set to fastest speed) and even then it's still crazy hard and a single wrong decision or unluck draw will mean death. When you die you're back to your last save, too.Deep Dungeon III was also challenging even after all the grindingOn average Famicom RPGs tend to be more challenging than what came after. It's probably also true for other late 80s and early 90s jRPGs on other platforms if not more so.
finally played breath of fire. my opinion is 2>1>34 i don't think is comparable but is a nice game by itself.
Why'd I stop playing JRPGs after FF12? What happened there?Did the formula change or did it stop working?
>>11338043There wasn't many released early in gen 7 and oddly enough they were all on Xbox 360, the console absolutely no one bought to play Japanese RPGs. This is honestly probably why Persona is even relevant today.
>>11338084Just lost all interest. Even Persona/SMT while having really cool lore/story and game mechanics, still just doesn't appeal to me.Oddly, I wouldn't mind playing any of the FF pre X. Maybe it's some kinda crystalized nostalgia/familiarity at this point, but I wish I could add on new interest into this genre when I can't.
>>11333272Maybe Azure Dreams? It's not all the way life simmy, but that's part of the game for sure. I've only played the GBC version, but there's a PS1 version with a lot more content like that.I've been playing Dragon Quest III and Dragon Quest V for the first time lately. Absolutely loving them both. They're surprisingly well written games, even moving at times, very impressive for 30 year old jarpigs. The character designs are just incredibly good, too, and DQIII lets you have clowns and bunnygirls.
>>11338084What about the situation with 360 JRPGs made Persona relevant?
>>11338209The situation of having no major PlayStation JRPGs to compete with in 2007-2008. Like the next biggest releases were from Gust and Falcom on PS2 and PSP.
>>11333272a magical melody
>>11334269those enemy designs are awesome.i wish i could read the weird scribbles, though
>>11335520These FFVII character models look great. disregard the haters. I hope you're playing a more difficult version of that boring game.i dont like the FFIX models, though
>>11340182The first game in the series was translated
>>11336386yestranslation: all of them
Metal Max ReturnsWish someone would translate the original SFC Metal Max 2 even though I've played the DS remake.
>>11340203Returns is pretty great especially for challenges run. I've done a solo run and a rental-tank run, was pretty fun. I even attempt a human-only run (no vehicles) but I couldn't beat the final boss. Some japanese players did it but I don't know how, i'm not even sure more grinding would have helpedbut yes 2 is still my favourite
>>11337245https://www.romhacking.net/hacks/3299/
>>11337245>>11340218I just read >no modsone question: why?you could also play nocturne classic
>>11340210Entire inventory full of barrier seals, spam concentrated methyls?
>>11336386All of them. If you don't want to play everything, just do Crystal and Emerald. And the ds games
>>11340220First playthrough should be mod free rule
>>11340220>one question: why?mods arent real
>>11337245BoF dragon quarter.You can only grind if you reset your game. Limited saves.If you get a hold kf the systems Ira actually very easy
>>11336386Red and blue are interesting because of the suburban setting with sci-fi elements mixed in. The battling is pretty simple though because the games are slow with handing out moves. Gold and silver feel like remixed versions of red and blue while also being sequels, so I would play those if you wanted more of the first games. The gameboy advance games feel pretty different in terms of world and gameplay, and honestly, I think they have more in common with non-retro pokemon than the gameboy games.
>>11338482Not to mention that the shift to HD development absolutely destroyed Final Fantasy's reign as the defacto JRPG in the west. Development time ballooned along with budgets, and Square went from releasing a new mainline game every other year to every five or six, filling the gaps with constant spin-offs and asset flips. They dilluted the brand so much at this point there's barely any connective tissue left, and every game might as well be its own series. Even FFVII Remake failed to meet expectations.
>>11340884The thing is the final boss, once it goes in critical mode, has an attack which iirc does more than 2k damage to humans and he can use it every 2 turns
>>11332862>what games have you been playing lately?Fire Emblem Gaiden
>>11335223Yes, except for the music. Upscaled textures and higher resolution are improvements, fucking with the music is just retarded though>>11332869>Lagrange PointI'm about 8 or so hours into that one. Pretty unique take on the DQ system. I'll have to finish it one of these days>>11335128What's the system? >>11332862Just started Super Robot Wars J in preparation for W. It seems to be the only way to get any kind of conclusion to the Martian Successor Nadesico series since they decided to cuck the fans with a cliffhanger that never got resolved
>>11337245Langrisser or Growlanser, depending on gameplay preference
>>11332862I replayed FF6 and FF7. It was interesting revisiting these as an older gamer. I really don't want to replay Chrono Trigger though. Once was enough for that game. I appreciate what it did at the time it was released, but I really don't like the gameplay and don't care about the story.
>>11341834>What's the system?With Kiesa (native american guy) you can cure the robot's HP, and with Tic you can cure the HP and BP of everyone that's not a robot. So iirc the only supply item I needed was to restore the Robot's BPMaybe other characters can do it too or better though I don't know about that
>>11332862I've been playing Breath of Fire IV and it's been extremely fun. I would say it's been a little too easy so far but the characters, art, music have all been top notch so far and it seems like the plot is finally picking up too.
>>11340196Aside what you posted
>>11335052Sure but then they would have designed it differently.
>>11341941Ok good info. Constantly running out of ammo was the reason I took a break from it in the first place
>>11337659I've been playing this. Nothing noteworthy so far, but it's fun nonetheless. I just have a little nitpick on the menu, i don't know why they put equipment inside the status menu, yet they have two magic menu in the main screen.
>>11337221I was severely underwhelmed by Star Ocean. After Tales of Phantasia it felt like another step forward in taking everything out of SNES hardware but it's just so hollow content-wise. The plot is absolute nonsense if I recall correctly and the battles are really annoying after the fun arcade mashing of ToP. The skill mechanics are somewhat interesting and I guess novel but those have been done better in other games. Still, enjoy the experience.
>>11332928>dat assHere's one of her in trance mode.
>>11344723Good GOD, man...
>>11332862op here. gonna fight the final boss tonight
>>11345539nvm I got my ass beat
Picked up Golden Sun for the first time since I was a kid and it’s been fun. I don’t know if it’s just that it’s also a Gameboy RPG, but the overworld puzzles remind me of Pokemon using Psyenergy to solve puzzles. Plus the game refills your Psyenergy quickly, so I can go all out every battle.If you like SNES RPGs, don’t sleep on it>>11336386Gens 3 (Emerald) and 5 (Black and White annd B2W2) are peak for single player. The Gen 3 GBA even has a good remake of Red and Green if you’re feeling Kanto over Hoenn.
>>11346183I was playing Sailor Moon Another Story for SNES last month when the new Sailor Moon movie came out but I dropped it because of all those weird solo quests in chapter 2. Its a game with tons of combo attacks I have no idea what they were thinking. I haven't been able to get into a jrpg since. I can't really play anything but jrpgs right now because of carpal tunnel either. I tried Phantasy Star 4, Romancing Saga 2, Final Fantasy 9 and some non /vr/ ones and nothing stuck yet and its not because I didn't like them. I spend months at a time like this. Then Ill find a game I love so much. I think the last game like this was FF6 but it was way at the beginning of this year.
>>11346195Have you tried Chrono Trigger or Earthbound? They're pretty refreshing and each of them got me out of JRPG funks at different points.
>>11346225Back when I was a kid they were some of the first games I emulated o zsnes and I recently replaced Chrono Trigger which got me out of a funk I was in last year. Maybe its time to replay Earthbound
>>11344723Whoa, what a woman
I've got the PS4 versions of every FF game from I to X-2. I know it's probably not the ideal way to enjoy all of them but whatever. Which is most fun? When emulating/playing proper copies years ago I got as far as becoming Paladin in IV, going inside an evil tree in V, Terra becoming a magic ghost in VI, killing Barrett's machine gun arm friend in VII, no idea in VIII, Vivi getting taken underground in a weird village in IX. X I got to Seymour seething over something.I find it hard to maintain momentum in longer games.
Playing SMT Strange Journey, literally just started it. I hate the design of the Demonica armour so much it's so fucking goofy.
