People don’t actually find this difficult, do they? Has nobody ever played a warrior in any game? Literally just pull mobs away from the pack and around a corner, and you’re good to go. Anyone who says you need magic to beat Diablo with a warrior shouldn’t be allowed to play warriors in vidya at all.
I agree, the bigger issue is that the game itself is boring as fuck and didn't get good until D2. Cool atmosphere, though.
>>11340869Retards don't understand kiting.
>>11340869I actually played this for the first time recently and went with warrior. All-in-all I really enjoyed my playthrough. Extremely comfy and sovlful experience. Admittedly the last couple floors were a big jump in difficulty, but nothing that going slowly couldn’t fix. I really don’t think I would have enjoyed playing Rogue or Sorcerer as thoroughly as I did Warrior. I feel like gear and weapons would be fairly insignificant for them, which is a big draw to these games for me. Inspecting every single drop and stacking resistances was really satisfying in the latter half of the game.I will say the first half was a little slow and that the Butchers weapon carried me further than I was comfortable with. I had to force myself to put it down for the sake of my own enjoyment. Also, FUCK those acid spitting dogs when they have a boss with them early on. Absolutely stomped my ass out like a fly.The goat archers can suck a dick too.
>>11340869Nightmare and Inferno difficulty throws stunlocking enemies at you. Good luck with that.
>>11340869Did you run into the unique pack of spitters in caves? Their AI differs from normal spitters so they won't fall for peeling. That's really the most difficult pack in the game as warrior, the mages and bitches in hell just take time to chase down
>>11340869Warrior is not AS easy as as Sorcerer, but it's not really hard if you understand what to do, no.>>11340876You're boring as fuck.>>11340928>I feel like gear and weapons would be fairly insignificant for them, which is a big draw to these games for meThey aren't, gear which boost magic and resistances are pretty vital for Sorcerer, and really good for Rogue as well. Bows which do good damage, and maybe even have Knockback, are supremely useful for Rogue, and Rogue also benefits dramatically from blocking off the path for enemies with spells like Fire Wall, that'll let you more easily handle monsters which can more quickly close the distance to you.Of course, some monsters are immune to fire.On the Hellfire side, Barbarian benefits supremely from the Undead Crown, and any decent axe which does Life Steal or even Mana Steal. Barbarian is a shit caster by design, but with some gear to give him Magic and Mana, he can cast a few practical spells a little bit.Mainly Town Portal and Reflect, but with Mana Steal you can keep up more regular use of offensive spells, at least relative to having no spells at all, and he's such a fucking rabid beast with an axe that with Life Steal, you can often power through hordes of monsters which would tear other classes apart.I will however recommend carrying a bow with you for Cathedral and Catacombs just in case you encounter Black Deaths though, those fuckers are just no fun.
>>11340869>People don’t actually find this difficult, do they?Yeah but it'll be through ignoring resistances and running into the acid mob >>11341907 mentioned, expecting to take it out while spamming potions. Same kind of players that don't realize running in D2 drops your defense.
>>11341907Spitting Terrors are THE number one enemy of an unprepared Warrior, they are such a fucking oppressive demon, and why Warriors should actually learn some offensive magic.They are fairly mean in melee as well, just one can hitstun a high level Sorcerer to death, which is why you make sure to avoid melee as a Sorcerer.I actually find the uniques with their Constant Spit behavior a little bit easier a lot of the time, simply because they will tend to stay put and spit on, even if you get out of range, in which case you can pick them off pretty methodically with your further reaching spells or arrows.>>11341892The more armor you have, the less likely you are to take a hit, and items with Fastest Hit Recovery really fucking pay off in reducing hit stun.
>>11342009Yep, that's a New Game right there
GOD I FUCKING LOVE DIABLO I SO MUCH ITS UNREAL
>>11340869You have to walk for the most part and engaging with enemies doesn't involve 20 squares of buffer space where you can get free damage in. It is more difficult than Sorcerer, likely more difficult than Rogue depending on the floor layout.
>>11341907>>11342007>>11342009Yeah, those spitters destroyed me lol. It was about as close to a “one shot” as possible my first encounter. Luckily I managed to get them somewhat spread out. >>11342393Tristram should have never ceased to be the focal point of the storyline. Destroying it was the worst decision possible.
>>11343017>Tristram should have never ceased to be the focal point of the storyline. Destroying it was the worst decision possible.Doing that and turning all the old D1 heroes into villians was one of my favorite decisions.
>>11340869I had the opposite problem where in late-game you had succubi and wizard fucks spamming magic missile from a screen away and scurrying away when trying to hit them
The sanctity of this place has been fouled…
>>11343059It’s not TOO bad on PC where you can hold shift so that your character auto attacks every time you’re in range for a split second, but on Playstation it’s absolutely toxic lol.
>>11340869I remember the days of /vr/ when Diablo had a general
>>11343910Didn't we have like a pseudo general at the end of last year and some months forward?
The smell of death surrounds me.
>>11340869Most modern players expect to be able to push a button and explode entire mobs
>>11344162You almost can as a high level Sorcerer.
>>11344423High level being the optimum words
>>11340869>>11340894Yeah, a lot of people are pretty damn bad, they'll just rush straight into a big mob and get raped. You could also kite them to doorways and then stand on the other side of the door so that you're just fighting one at a time while the rest pile up.The game was great though back in the day, PVP was awesome in that game. Definitely the best PVP of any Diablo game hands down. Also you dropped all your equipped gear if you died which raised the stakes.
>>11344423>play D1 on PS1 with friend in co-op>i'm warrior, he's sorcerer>time to take down Diablo>friend has been spending all spare cash on Fireball books>it's level 29 now>second fireball causes Diablo to die while I'm still rapidly healing myself from the damage I got from a missed fireball that hit me instead>we sit there in silence for a bit>"What were we grinding so much for?">"The fuck, he was easier than the acid spitters!"Most disappointing final boss ever.
>Rest now, Leoric. I'll find your son.>Who is also my brother>But this never comes up>Nobody ever mentions Albrecht is my brother, not even me>Or that King Leoric is my father>Which makes me Prince, next in line for succession before Albrecht>But now the King is dead, and dead even more now that I killed him as a skeleton>That means I'm king, but nobody mentions that either>Also my dad was yoked and he stood three feet above everyone else and had huge bones>That's a BIG mushroom...The story in this atmospheric game is dog shit
>>11344675>>Rest now, Leoric. I'll find your son.>>Who is also my brother>>But this never comes up>>Nobody ever mentions Albrecht is my brother, not even meNo mention of any of this in Diablo 1 or 2, must be from either 3 or 4.
>>11344675Neo-blizzard slop has nothing to do with Blizzard North videokinos
>>11344496After his disappointing performance in Diablo, the devil himself had trouble finding work but he did team up with Alex Chiu & Friends and Hitler and make a cameo in the now classic "We Drink Ritalin."
>>11344703is this actually d1 artwork? looks like they always had this retarded looking cartoon look all along.
>>11342009Yep, this is where my first playthrough ended as a Warrior as a kid. You gotta balance your inventory well as a Warrior in D1. Magic Resistance becomes a lot more important late game.
>>11344767D1 character artwork, and yeah the style has been there forever.
I wish more arpgs had this slow methodical style. I've played several d1 mods but nothing else feels similar to me.
>>11344980Just play RTwP RPGs
>>11344980>I wish more arpgs I mean people say things like that but when confronted with the reality they choose modern zoomzoom gameplay of poe or fast clearing blizzard/hammerdins in d2. path of exile 2 appears to go back to the slower more methodical style. I understand its not retro but its going to be as good as an arpg will ever come to that kind of gameplay.
>>11344980I know combat is largely the appeal but it feels like you can never really digest or process the things that are happening. it's too much noise too fast.
Just nabbed this bad boy from Gharbad on my hc warrior. I feel slightly less nervous about the acid dogs. I’ve had pretty good luck with drops thus far, but confidence kills. Grabbed the image online because I’m on PSX and it can’t show all the stats at once lol.
This .webm is what I mean by the unique Spitting Horrors sometimes not being as bad as the regular types, the Constant Spit behavior means the unique and its pack will stand in place and spit at you even if they can't reach you, which makes them rather predictable.>>11344458Well yeah, you don't get the best shit for free, son, you gotta make that kind of power happen.>>11344496>>it's level 29 nowI haven't played the PSX port, but it actually lets you level spells past 15 there? On PC, spells are capped at 15 levels, and can only get higher than that with some items which boost spell levels, in which case you can get it up to like 17 or maybe 18.>Most disappointing final boss ever.He's tougher on the higher difficulties, but I don't know if PSX Diablo enables those. He's not immune to fire though, so one of the easiest ways to cheese the fucker is to spam Fire Wall where he stands, which will eat away at his health, the more you cast, the faster he hurts.If you and your pal wanna give Diablo another spin some day, DevilutionX runs on all kinds of fucking machines now (even Amigas and phones), it has multiplayer with the singleplayer quests and almost no cheats, and it has gamepad support.>>11344675A lot of the story gets retconned and muddled with Diablo 2. Not enough to destroy it, but Diablo 3 and Diablo 4 would make sure to do that.
>>11344703>>11344735I always felt like it was a post D2 retcon since it makes zero sense and makes the reveal of Albrecht being Diablo all along feel dumb But then again D3 also made the Warrior and Adria the witch fuck and have a Mary Sue daughter
>>11345238>A lot of the story gets retconned and muddled with Diablo 2.Most/all of what that other anon talked about is from 3.
>>11345271That would make a lot of sense, Diablo 3 was cosmically fucking retarded.
>>11345268What do you mean "felt like"? It was obviously a post D2 retcon. He's not called Aiden or anything until Diablo 3.
I almost wish they had gone with the boobie grabbing spheres for the HUD.
These fuckers are so cool and menacing.
>>11345347My bad, should've been 'knew it was'Also iirc D4 has Albrecht being inserted into the story again because Blizzard cannot come up with anything original
>>11345413>Oh they have deadly ranged attacks>I guess I should get in closeCaves and Hell don't fuck around. I love it.
>>11345403I do like this a lot desu, especially that old school texturing. I also like the mystical barber pole from the PSX port. The spell bobbing around in the orb is kino.
>>11344851Makes me think of Severance Blade of Darkness
>>11343910You WILL remember
>>11344851nippa
>>11344980>I wish more arpgs had this slow methodical stylejust play original rougelikesI think ADoM has a pretty similar feel but with an obviously much more expanded gameworld
Does anyone actually play on Battle.net any more (any of the original realms or the "global" realm from GOG/Battle.net version) or is it all just source ports and VPN fuckery?
>>11345172Died on floor 16 baka. Got surrounded and didn’t realize my recent gear swap had rendered me unable to use my scrolls of phasing. Rookie mistake.
It's hot down here.
Any protips for enchanted shrine hunting?
>>11340869i didnt even know you could use magic as a warrior
>>11344423in multiplayer, we ran Warrior with hacked Dreamflange (magic boosting item) in every slot so we could wield Archangel's Staff of Apocalypseeither that, or Godly Plate of the Whale and whatever the biggest baddest sword was called. One time i had a different sword that stole health but i lost it and never saw it again.
>>11344458>the optimum wordsYou mean "the operative words".
I wish we could get an ARPG somewhere between Diablo 1 and 2. I won't elaborate on this, it's too painful for me.
>>11351116iirc shrines only appear in the first couple dungeons>stack magic items>learn teleport>save character>start new game>teleport through the floors hunting for good shrines until they disappear (floors roughly 1-8)>save character>rinse and repeat
>>11351554I know what you mean. The slow methodical gameplay of D1 with the class depth of D2 would be a “forever game” for me.
>>11351116Don't use the goat ones. Goat magic is fucked and it'll cripple you.>>11351663This is exactly what I meant. Book system leads to every class going after the same best spells. A few other tweaks to gameplay to keep discourage door camping, I can't say anymore as it's too painful for me (it will never happen)
>>11340869Easy Mode: RangerMedium Mode: SorcererHard Mode: Warrior
>>11351260I find that Apocalypse isn't very practical outside of Hellfire, because you're so limited by charges and scrolls. Even in Hellfire, where you can learn it, it's not that great because it's nerfed, it doesn't strike enemies unless you have direct line of sight, so all it's really good for is hitting triple immunes, which is uses too much mana and does too little damage to be very efficient.What Hellfire does have though is Immolate, which shoots out a ring of Fireballs around you, which are never AS strong as Fireballs, but they do splash damage and the relatively low mana cost makes the DPS pretty damn good.
>>11343038>Villiansthey all went insane and became cursed anon. Which makes fucking perfect sense to a mortal being around diablo and fucking being near his soul stone. I mean dude literally shoves it in his dead. Is it canon that he was never even truly their. That the prince with the soul stone was just some like part of diablo you were not even in hell. It was all a ruse to find a legit powerful warrior to take the soulstone and put the real plan into motion freeing his brothers.
>>11353230>Is it canon that he was never even truly their. That the prince with the soul stone was just some like part of diablo you were not even in hell. It was all a ruse to find a legit powerful warrior to take the soulstone and put the real plan into motion freeing his brothers.I think the canon explanation given was that under Tristam it's not the real Hell, it's the Caves but Diablo is warping them into his lair. The game was better before they tried to flesh it out over 4 games with angel characters and other retardation.
>>11340869>>11340894>kiting>pull mobs away from the packThat's some faggot sissy caster shit. Real warriors want to go full retard.This is the average warrior player in any game, any genrehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dl3DgJ7e5Gg
>>11353706the story to 2 was perfect. He jab'd the soulstone in his head blood raven and whats his name also went insane since they were the trio that faced "daiblo". Dude fucks off to free baal from tal rasha and speak with Mephisto chilling with his cultist bros gather all the soul stones smash em >Well shit the world stone is fucked>Better smash that too just to be extra careful >TRUSTING AN ANGLEYou know what the real fucking crime is diablo 4 if bliz was not retarded would take place durring the mage wars and the sealing of baal helping tal rasha at the end. A prequel back when everyone was OP as fuck. Instead we got grimderp faggotree look at how metal the world has became after 3.
>2024>I am forgotten.The monk was an incredible representation of peoples with Marfan syndrome, pretty sad to see it replaced by generic "spirit guide" bullshit today. I wonder what they were thinking when they made Hellfire. The art and sound assets are absolutely awful, the only exception being this red fella in heavy armor with a staff.
>>11353986Hellfire is made up from like 60% unused content which already existed leftover in Diablo's .mpq file, which is why some of the stuff looks or sounds good.
>>11354017Unfortunately the other 40% was absolutely retarded lol.
Any RPGs with a similarly dark and scary atmosphere as Diablo 1? None I've played feel as oppressive as Diablo
Who else likes collecting rare garbage?
>>11355739>Belt full of elixirsWhy? There's no reason to hold these when the effect is a permanent stat boost.
>>11355925I'm already at max stats. I'm just holding them until I can mule them over to another character.Also:In Hellfire in addition to the usual stat increase, the Elixir of Magic and Elixir of Vitality act as a full mana/healing potion respectively.(I'm not playing Hellfire though.)
>>11355739I love it, because I think Diablo's inventory art is beautiful. DevilutionX giving you a storage stash is like one of my little kid dreams coming true, being able to properly collect all these cool treasures.This is just part of what I've gathered.
>>11356026I've found 57 out of 75 uniques that can actually drop in vanilla multiplayer.I hate that some of the coolest looking items are some of the worst:Black Razor, The Executioner's Blade, Ring of Regha, etc.Meanwhile some of the "best" uniques like Demonspike Coat don't even get unique art.Also, what's the AC on those Thinking Caps? I finally managed to find one with 4 but only after getting AC 3 cap to something like 61 durability first.
>>11346579It's a shame that the old battle.net interface of Diablo wasn't reversed engineered and updated to work with PvPGN and/or Zerotier.
>>113560811 to 4 or so.I wish the single player oils were available in multiplayer so that I could reinforce my gucci wizard gear further.
>>11355739>-30% light raidusYou know that shit is handy right? it keeps fuckers from seeing you so you can get the drop on them
>>11356787Not him, but I find it isn't that great. I'm gonna kill on sight anyway, and if I can't see them myself, then I can't target them. In some sense you can use it for stealth, but it's incredibly fucking niche in practical applications.I tried going for maximum darkness to try to play stealth, but Diablo just isn't made for it, the game doesn't actually work properly when you get light radius down low enough.
>>11356842The only times I've ever found reduced darkness for hiding to ever be useful was a few times when I got mobbed and gangraped hard as a sorcerer, and I had to sneakily retrieve my gear afterwards.
