Princess Crown: English patch is OUT AFTER 10+ YEARS!!!!!https://github.com/eadmaster/pcrown
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>>11346134Thank you, looks like it's still very early
It's version 0.3 and highly incomplete. But at least someone else is finally making it for real instead of the guy who sat on it for a decade.
>>11346134I can finally masturbate to that one GADGET doujin and feel like I am getting the full experience.
>>11346194>GADGETthe mouse from Rescue Rangers?
at least wait for halfwidth characters. Roman fullwidth is ugly as fuck, you've waited 10 years so you can wait another.
>>11346134looks like shitprobably MTL garbage>version 0.3man, the only thing that's missing is an ongoing patreon scam or some other call to fundraising to complete the 2024 tier garbage ass translation paradigm.
>>11346134Imagine being an EOP and having to wait until 2024 to play Princess Crown
>>11346505Imagine learning Japanese to play this mediocre game. The only reason anyone cares is because "translation never :((("
>>11346134EOPbros we're fucking back, time to eat our scraps
>>11346134>Shiturn version i sleepPoser Crown (yes this is a poser game) it's just a prototype version of Odin Sphere a very mediocre game but if they translated the PSP version i'd try it, not gonna waste my time emulating Shiturn slop
This appears to just be an attempt to revive the latest translation attempt that died after the person who worked on it for almost 10 years just disappeared until the thread was locked in 2023, it's still missing many things.https://www.romhacking.net/forum/index.php?topic=15979.0That original translator had a Github page at one point of a very very early attempt, but eventually took it down as it was very outdated and not meant to be actually used to try to install the patch on the game itself yet. IIRC he never released or posted any of his newer code or translations, so unless this person got access to the latest code/script from the previous guy who gave up translating it he basically just forked over an old copy of a very outdated alpha attempt and is attempting to continue off that.
>>11346578Nah, i like vanillaware games. >>11346806Odin sphere is dope af! Dunno why a beat em up like this cant be replicated.
>>11346154Is it me or is the website constantly down?
>>11346134>fixed width fontewwwwww
>>11346578I learned Japanese so that I could talk with this cute girl I knew (now my wife of nearly 10 years). Getting to play Princess Crown was just a sweet consequence of that decision.And it's not mediocre at all. The story is great and the visuals are fantastic.
>>11346806PSP version is censored
>>11346134As long as they don't do anything retarded like only offer the translation with some troon's amateur fandub replacing Kikuko Inoue's lines for no reason other than vanity I'll gladly shill this.
>>11346837>after the person who worked on it for almost 10 years just disappearedHe was sabotaged and unpersoned because he chose to take the wrong side in RHDN's gay ass drama from a few years back. You know the one.
>>11346837The guy was discouraged from finishing it because there was supposedly another person who was making a translation hack for Princess Crown. Remember that the romhacking "community" has this retarded ass rule where people can call dibs on a game's translation and everybody else isn't allowed to do their own (Thanks Gideon!), so he got squeezed in private messages to can his translation and most likely washed his hands of ever doing another romhack again because of how terrible some of these fuckers can be (just look what happened to Tom). It's all a moot point now that romhacking dot net doesn't exist anymore, so hopefully we see more translations revived and continued in the future.
>>11347013>romhacking dot net doesn't exist anymoreWhat do you mean? The site's still up, I'm looking at it right now.
>>11347027Don't be retarded on purpose
>>11346998In what way?>>11347008His last post was in 2022, not that long ago. And I didn't see anyone calling him out for anything in the thread.
>>11346134Cool, now everyone can forget about this dumb game and move on to the next shitty "hidden gem" translation that's years off from finishing.
>>11347068>In what way?As far as I know it's just her transformation that was changed
>>11347209Got a comparison clip?
>>11347035The jokes fucking write themselves for the "new" website the previous rom hacking dot org crew are scrambling to try and create.
I understand people who only occasionally play Japanese games not wanting to learn the language. But I know people who basically 99% of the games they play are Japanese, and yet they refuse to learn the language for some dumbass reason and then complain about translations or lack thereof. It just makes you look retarded when you do this.
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>>11346134Thought this was released by the original hacks but>My attemt to restart so and so's projectSo they led everyone by the nose for 10+ years only to quietly drop the project?*golf clap*
Segagaga is next...
>>11347209>big bustgood thing they censored it, it's immersion breaking i signed up for a game with a loli protaginst not a rotten expired slut
>>11346445Fucking chuuni, surely you thought you looked cool typing that.
>>11346134She looks like the princess Wario saves in Wario Land 4.
>>11347509仰る通り忌むべき翻訳者またローカライザーは消え去るのみ日本語の聖なる道も一歩より・・・勉強し給えRETRO使徒達よ
I'm not EOP but still can't be bothered to learn Japanese
Maybe in another 10 years
>>11347641Those two are frauds. Prove me wrong anyone. Complete and total frauds. Therefore, opinion = discarded.
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>>11346194>using scation replay
>>11347641didn't this happen with Persona 2? Someone was taking a fuckload of time to translate it, someone shadowdropped their translated full release, and the original translator was really pissy about it?
>>11346806>yes this is a poser gameWrite a paragraph with no buzzwords to explain your point.
>>11347310It's just an unfortunate math calculation of looking at how many hours it would take to learn Japanese versus how many hours of adequately translated Japanese stuff there is left (this number will basically never balance either unless you just entirely lose interest in anything new). It does not make sense to learn the language just for the sake of playing video games unless you just can not fucking let go of some untranslated game you're sure is totally going to be worth investing many times its play time which you could have spent playing a ton of other games for.Now on the other hand the fights about new game localizations do have some stake in that whether there will be any new things people are actually interested in bit, particularly as localizer influence increasingly affects what kinds of games are even being made and not just how they're translated.
>>11347969If you're eyeing even two untranslated games that aren't something like Dragon Quest (franchise with lots of official English entries and many fans willing to make a patch or maybe even get an official one with a remake) you'd be stupid to not just learn the language. There's no way someone sitting around waiting for Princess Crown doesn't have a whole laundry list of untranslated games they want to play.
>>11347949The circumstances are a bit different. That was somebody sneaking their unrelated translation past the person who kept promising to release the translation in the future. The current situation is somebody taking an earlier build of a translation project and patching it up to make it playable against translator's wishes.
>>11347991They easily can considering every other Kamitani game is translated.
When I was a teenager I thought people who did fan translations and mods were such cool guys. It's kinda sad that it's just a bunch of autistic (sometimes literal) troons who get pissy about every single thing and keep leading people with nothing to show for it, sometimes for a decade or more.
>>11348021The trick is to only suck someone's dick when they actually finish something.
>>11346134KINO!!!!>>11346194>GadgetKUSOKINO!!!!
>>11348021don't forget the lolcowlizations they often do instead of actual translations.
>>11348034>Pg.56
>>11346194>>11348034For a dirty doujin, it sure has some cool goodies.
>>11347201Yeah, let's move on to Brandish 3.Where the fuck is it? It got some based looking girls too.
>>11348058True that brother
>>11348038>the lolcowlizations they often do instead of actual translations.name three times. I legitimately am interested in this history.
>>11347641>"CyberWarrior and I [COPE]."I don't care. Let them finish it and let other people revise or reference the base work for a completed oneand if the makers pussy out, someone here or some other 4chan adjacent shithole will probably do it.10-20 years of nothing is unacceptable.
>>11346505If EOPs gets to play, more people will know and grow up with it.and maybe, just maybe, this will force VW to give a goddamn fuck about PC.
>>11347209Oppaihime
>>11348108>force VW to give a goddamn fuck about PClollmao evenVanillaware is anti-PC out of pure pettiness at this point, they're never putting their games on PC no matter how retarded they make themselves look.
>>11347641Are they seriously trying to claim they own the rights to the partial fan translation work they did? They do realize it's content for an IP they do not own, right? RHDN is absolutely full of "Addendum" romhacks that build upon hacks/translations others did and improve them, it's not even an unheard of, new, or uncommon thing to do. And after CyberWarriorX PUBLICLY posted his work, and then went radio silent after 10 years to the point that even the thread on RHDN about it got locked, I would say it's up for grabs for someone else to actually finish his work.And if they are trying to claim they called "dibs" on it and nobody else can translate it, that's even more retarded.That being said #2 and #3 are a real problem, like I mentioned in >>11346837 it appears like someone just took a copy of the very obsolete github that CyberWarriorX had put up at one point when he first started and is trying to go off of that. IIRC Cyber never released any of the updated work he had done for years after that repo was taken down. So these guys are basically working off of a very very incomplete alpha. This would be like if Minecraft got delisted from every store, but someone had a copy of the sourcecode from when it just came out in 2009, and is trying to rebuild it from that.And yet of course many sites and YouTube channels are all going "OMGWTFBBQ Princess Crown has finally been translated!!!" despite this being a trainwreck of an alpha.Pic related.
>>11348113Exactly, it's never gonna happen, but the impossible things also happened this and last decade.
>>11347641>call dibs>never do any work>harass anyone who actually triesnah these faggots can kill themselves.
>>11348113It occurs to me you meant Princess Crown and not Personal Computer.Still, if VW's attitude toward PC is any indication, a translation patch of PC will just prove to them that PC users couldn't be trusted with PC and don't deserve it.
>>11347641Hoping some twitterfags are flipping these hacks off too. They probably want in on this.
>>11348125I'm sure he said Precious Cunny. I wonder what he meant by that? A little X-rated there innit.
>>11347641>ten years>still havent completed a translation project for a single game that's not even long or text heavy like an RPG
>>11348119And it turns out, after this news broke out CyberWarriorX reappeared, posting in the thread on SegaXtreme despite the fact that before today the last time he had posted in that forum was 2017, complaining that he is basically pissed someone did that.https://segaxtreme.net/threads/help-me-translate-princess-crown.18555/Seriously? The dude disappeared from his own thread about the Princess Crown translation in 2019:https://www.romhacking.net/forum/index.php?topic=15979.msg370722#msg370722Claiming he had minimum of two months of work leftThen appeared once more in early 2022 to basically go "I'm still here":https://www.romhacking.net/forum/index.php?topic=15979.msg425557#msg425557And then completely disappeared from the thread to the point where a mod decided to lock it in 2023 because it seemed dead and he had not even logged in since 2022.And after all that, he's pissed that someone decided to pick it up?Gotta love the one guy in 2023 going "For the love of god the project is not dead. Just because you don't get a status report every 5 minutes doesn't mean a project is dead. The people working on it last I heard were having some personal real life issues going on that needed their attention more. They still intend to finish the project." This was months after the admins at RHDN closed the thread because it seemed dead, saying that if Cyber wanted to contact them that it was still alive he could... and never did. There is a difference between demanding constant updates, and just a simple "I'm still here and working on it" at least once a year. If you can't manage that, then clearly you have not touched it in ages and aren't working on it anymore, just refusing to admit it and let it go.In fact, Cyber even confirmed this: "I emailed both of them and only received a reply from CyberWarriorX. He stated that even though he isn't working on the project anymore, he has no desire to share any of the translation work he has already completed."
>>11348165So he DID give up, didn't even tell anyone he did, refused to share anything despite the fact that he DID share things before, and is now pissed that someone took what he had shared and is trying to finish it... possibly even pissed that this person is getting the glory. He isn't even hiding or refusing to acknowledge the fact that most of the work was done by CyberWarriorX and SamIAm.Basically:CyberWarrior X started on it in 2012, was openly and publicly sharing his work as open source, claimed it was almost done in 2019, went radio silent, had one more "still alive" post in 2022, and then never even logged into the site itself anymore, the admins locked the thread as dead in March of 2023 and said if Cyber ever wanted to re-open it he could.Someone in SegaXtreme then in November of 2023 confirmed they had contacted Cyber and he admitted the project was dead... AND that he had no intention of sharing the work he had done.So now in 2024 someone took that incomplete work that Cyber had publicly and openly shared and is trying to finish it, even crediting CyberWarriorX and SamIAm as having done most of the work... and now because that guy is getting praise Cyber logged into that site for the first time since 2017 just to whine about it, insisting he never claimed it was dead (Why would a completely different person lie about it then? It's not even the same person who released the translation and that was a year before this translation came out) despite having not logged into either RHDN or SegaXtreme in forever (other than once just to say goodbye to RHDN closing), not telling the admins the project is not dead, and acting like his code was "stolen" even though he publicly posted it as open source. He's now claiming that since he closed the repo and changed the license that all the work he did previously retroactively uses the new license (Does not work that) and all his old code he previously posted publicly should be considered private.
>>11348168Cyber seems like a total crybaby drama queen here that got pissy that people took his dead project and are finishing it, and thus getting the praise, even though he is being credited as having done most of the work and when it's very obvious he had no intention of ever finishing it.Thankfully nearly every site reporting on it does not seem to agree with Cyber, and even that SegaXtreme thread is raking him across the coals for his behavior.
>>11348121>>call dibs>>never do any work>>harass anyone who actually triesThing is he did do work, a lot of work, but it's very clear that around 2019 he lost interest/was not going to finish it. The number of times I have seen something that has been silent for months or even years suddenly reappear and claim "It's not dead!" only for that to be the last update ever...But yes, now he is losing his shit that someone else is finishing his work, insisting he was going to finish it and that he has a much newer version and that the code he publicly shared is actually stolen and blah blah blah, but when asked for details he refuses to give any. Dude let his own thread get marked as dead and never contacted the admins in over two years to tell them that it's not. It's clear he's only insisting it's not dead because someone else finally released something based on his work and he's pissy nobody is praising him for it even though he is being credited.
>>11348191>TrekkiesUnite upvoting all of his postsLol that's the same guy who has been defending him for years.
>>11348201Yeah, dude seems to be a total lapdog for Cyber. He was the one complaining in that same thread in 2023 that the project is not dead and bitterly defending Cyber, even returned to the thread just now to continue kissing his behind.Though the sad thing is, usually when people whine and bitch the way Cyber is doing, they tend to get their way in these kinds of communities. Watch eadmaster take down his patch with a totally-not-bulled-out-of-him apology soon. I personally hope he does not, but that's always the way things seem to go with these drama queens that whine that they didn't get their way. Despite the fact that ed is completely correct in that if the project was posted in a repo as GPL that version of the code is free and open for all to use even if later versions had the license changed, and frankly the curt and insulting way Cyber responded to ed does not leave a good impression of him.
Every shitty TL project I've half started I've dumped the repo and put a comment saying good luckFuck if I care they use my work, I didn't finish it, I'm too lazy to finish it, if they can pick up my slack, that's great because I couldn't find help when I hit the wall in the first place.
>>11348215The issue is that he insists he was going to finish it, even though absolutely everyone listed the project off as dead and he had not even logged into any fan translation sites for years. Yes, it would have been even more uncalled for if he had publicly said it was dead and then lashed out at others finishing it.
>>11348210Got to love the behavior of returning ten years later just to say you definitely have a much better and more complete version that would have totally been released. Reminds me of the SMT: if translation fiasco. That at least resulted in Gideon getting off his lazy ass and actually finishing it just to avoid the humiliation of BaddestHacks doing it first.
>>11348219He didn't return 10 years later, he started it 10 years ago, but his last post was over two years ago, and before that five years ago. Just taking a simple fucking 10 seconds to go "Still working on it" isn't that hard to do, we aren't demanding a changelog of current progress here, because then otherwise projects essentially eternally have "dibs" called on them and nobody else can do jack shit. Update at least once a year just that you are working on it or lose it, if he really does have a far more complete version then he has a massive opportunity here to usurp the new guy and release something, or even post updates, but instead he's just whining that the guy "stole" his open source which he was credited for.
>>11348228It's weird how you publish something on an OPEN sourced platform and then complain someone is using the open sourced stuff as opposed to your closed sourced stuff. Like bitch what the fuck did you expect? This isn't even a translation thing it's like that for emulators too Anyway, they had 10 fucking years to show at least some kind of progress, people don't mind being patient, what they DO mind is being dicked around for a project that will never finish at all Fuck this is just reminding me of the persona 2 EP PSP translation shit>Spend years dicking around with people but even showing any kind of progress >Spend more time asking for money and support for other stuff>eventually a few of the people working on it get fed up and break off>Said people put out a patch that basically just inserts the original PS1 translation in it along with a few bug fixes that the original Japanese version had>People are happy with it>Original translator is seething so hard he rage quit on P2 altogether
>>11348247*never
>P.N.: reportedly CyberWarriorX and SamIAm are still working privately on this project, and since this was forked many years ago it does not reflect the current status of their project. Btw since this was originally released with a GPL-2.0 license, i'd like to exercise my right to keep working on this and make improvements as long as a better translation patch is released.Kek, at least this guy didn't back down like a bitch, maybe this will movited cyberfag to finally finish it
>>11348191What a fucking faggot. CyberWarriorX and SamIAm should jump off a bridge.
>>11348252shouldn't've made it open source if he didn't want other people working on it. What an egotistical manchild.
>>11348259>Release unfinished work on github>Don't even leave any kind of note saying this is unfinished and you probably shouldn't use it if you're making a patch >Don't>Complain years later some other guy is using itThese two bozos are so supremely retarded it's unreal
>>11348252He (ead) is not going to fix shit, he released it l o o k i n g l i k e t h i s and not even a day later some people on Twitter or somewhere fixed it with a simple hex edit. If he can't even do that before shitting out a release he's not going to fix anything himself.
>>11348269At this point it's not about actually fixing it, it's about exposing the two retards claiming they're working on something for a decade with nothing to show for it.
>>11346172The original guy is kicking up a stink apparently
>>11348269It's only been a few days anonBesides it's less about fixing the patch and more of exposing the fact again, Cyberwarrior and Sam has been insisting for over a decade they didn't give up on Princess crown when they clearly did, fuck cyberwarrior himself basically dropped out from the scene years ago, And sam is being a major bitch about it.The patch is to prove a point.
>>11346578Being able to enjoy things within a language is a side-effect of actually learning it, smooth brain.
>>11348252Lmao, people should read licensing term they invoke instead of crying about thieves years later. Live by the sword, die by the sword.
>>11348252This reminds me of the Duckstation/RA situationLOL
>>11347992>The circumstances are a bit different. That was somebody sneaking their unrelated translation past the person who kept promising to release the translation in the future.So it was the same.>against translator's wishes.no one owes him anything
>>11348072popolocrois, bulk slash, and naruto rpg 2 (not retro)
>>11348315Lazy Persona 2 translator had no case against the other translation, given that it had no connection to their work, so they fucked off. On the other hand, Cyber is currently crying on SegaXtreme, demanding crowd to reject third party Princess Crown translation as he "did not give permission" to use their script, despite uploading it to Github under GPL-2.0 license like a fool.
Now all we need is someone taking up a torch for a new Super robot wars alpha translation to see Gideon melt down as much as cyberwarrior
Even the CyberSimp is starting to backtrack a little, back in 2023 he insisted "For the love of god the project is not dead." and just now he posted "I literally pointed out in this thread to other people the project probably wasn't dead and to reach out."From insisting "for the love of god it's not dead" to "It probably wasn't dead". Also I love how he claims to PM Cyber when the dude had basically disappeared from all fan translation forums and had not logged on in years. Before today Cyber's last post on the SegaXtreme forums was in 2017.
>>11348323and what made those lolcowlizations
>>11348323>bulk slashnow you're just trolling
>>11348347People love to complain that translators dubbed voices in English instead of McGuyvering subtitle rendering systems.
>>11347641>>11347949yes both """"translators"""" are entitled bitches who get no work done, pretend they have a latest build and translation and get pissed they can no longer attention whore because they love the false hope they give everyone every time they drop an update about the translation.
>>11348343>>>>probably
>>11348165>>11348191>that faggot who cocksucks the devsmaybe he thinks that the translation would come out faster the bigger faggotry he does.
>>11347949>https://iwakuraproductions.wordpress.com/2022/07/27/persona-2-eternal-punishment-psp-update-2/Yes. The bitch iwakura even making himself the victim after not updating nor giving any timeline for his """""translation""""" work. Never forget.
I mean you can have your fun bitching about the fags who said they were going to translate the game 10 years ago and whatever, but ultimately the reality here is that no progress has been made and some dude just uploaded the same unfinished translation that already existed but isn't ready to release
>>11348421It feels like the guy only forked it in order to bait them into responding, which they completely fell for.
>>11348421Something that causes shit to stir and awareness to be raised, even if unfinished, is better than some jackass calling dibs and then silently abandoning it, leaving anything on nebulous feel-feels of no one else wanting to piss things off by treading the same ground where he won't.
>>11348421If it was unfinished why publish it?Basically this was 5D chess to light a fire up people's asses againNow cybercuck and sam basically have to respond in some manner, Which they did so mission accomplished, either one of two things happen>They stop fucking around and actually give meaningful updates or some idea of progress and finish the fucking thing>Or the old patch is the only english patch for princess crown, not like this is new to fan translations there's plenty of those kind of patches that were never finished but at least you can still play (Botaki 3 had some menus un translated but you can still beat the main story and nearly all the other text was done)
>>11348421cyberbitch and sam are essentially hindering translating efforts for those who actually care about it and want it done. they start something and abandon it for years with 0 updates while they gather morons who are ready to defend their shit just because "translation work takes a lot of time and it's free!!!?!?1" the very same kind of people who eat up games as service and day 1 patch bullshits.thankfully for them the one who released this incomplete translation work is not a talented one or else they'd get fucked badly, as badly as the persona 2 retard who promised to translate it and had 0 updates for 8 years leaving only breadcrumbs for morons.
>>11348452No they're hindering going on the internet and getting credit from other retards for another unfinished translation project.>>11348443It's not 5D chess it is explicitly translation begging and I'm not convinced it will make any difference. This sort of thing is just as often used as an excuse to drop a project so the people who haven't been doing shit aren't really any more likely to do anything and it hardly means you're going to just magically summon someone else who feels like doing it.
>>11348421He appears to have done some additional work on it. People claim it is "Version 0.3" but that appears to be ed's version numbering. If you look at the release history he released a version 0.1 and 0.2 the day before. But yes, it's a much earlier and less finished version... at least if Cyber isn't lying.>>11348428>>11348443I don't think the guy was trying to pull any sort of Xanatos Gambit 5D Chess like that, you might be reading too much into it. He just took what was already publicly posted under GPL and forked it, releasing a usable version and starting to make his own updated/patches to it.>>11348437Seems like his main gripe is "They stole my code!"... which, you can't really "steal" code that was publicly posted under GPL but even ignoring that, I would not be surprised that if even it was 100% original code he still would have found a reason to complain.
>>11348465TrekkiesUnite, get lost. Nobody wants nor welcomes you here, this isn't your hugbox Discord.
>>11348465>it is explicitly translation begging It's really not, you think the guy wasn't aware of how unfinished it was? come on, the files are over 10 years old. This was not "Begging" this was an attempt getting some kind of attention for a old dead project, stop taking everything at face value and read between the lines
>>11348472>Muh code>Also same person: publishes said code under a legal license that allows people to do what they want with said codewhy are they like this
>>11348479While I am having a good laugh at this thread, those posts aren't mine.
>>11348491Shut up trekkie, and post proof you're him
>>11348493He's not Trekkie, I'm Trekkie!
>>11348490He probably never expected anyone to use his work without his permission. The fundamental problem is thinking anyone needs his blessing or gives a fuck if he approves or not.
>>11348496no, i am
>>11348491>>11348496>>11348498You should unite or something
>>11348472The actual code version that he forked wasn't actually in a functional state so he had to figure out how it's supposed to work.>>11348481Actually looking closer I guess the text he has is more complete than I thought so it's only extremely unlikely he can finish it rather than impossible.
>>11348465>No they're hindering going on the internet and getting credit from other retards for another unfinished translation project.This doesn't make sense. If they were making progress, where's the update? It's just another project in limbo until someone jumps on it and continues it. And then that's where the lazyass devs become attention whores once more.
>>11348508>Actually looking closer I guess the text he has is more complete than I thought so it's only extremely unlikely he can finish it rather than impossible.Generally the hard work in a fan translation isn't the actual translation, it's hacking the translated script back into the game. That's where the majority of the work goes (especially if it's more than text, such as having to dub or subtitle a game). I am pretty sure the text itself was translated long ago, in fact, I recall before this project was even started there was a guide that was basically just a webpage that was a full translation of the game text that people originally used to attempt to play the game as if it was a walkthrough. 99% of the time you can't just swap out the Japanese script for an English one and it will just work.IIRC that's why Segagaga has still not been fan translated despite also being another highly sought after one, the game is apparently a mess of spaghetti code that crashes all over the place if you mess with it, including the text.
>>11348516You say that but we're getting a bunch of MTL garbage now.
>>11348516>IIRC that's why Segagaga has still not been fan translated despite also being another highly sought after one, the game is apparently a mess of spaghetti code that crashes all over the place if you mess with it, including the text.I remember hearing recently the director for it saying he wants to support english version of it too, kinda fucked the closest we ever had to a Segagaga translation was from fucking game informer and they only translated a section with alex kidd
>>11348520>I remember hearing recently the director for it saying he wants to support english version of it tooHe did, he said he can't officially work on it but will try to support any fan attempts however he can.https://www.timeextension.com/news/2024/09/the-director-behind-cult-dreamcast-rpg-segagaga-wants-to-translate-it-into-english
>>11347991>>11346505>>11346907>>11347310Ever consider that most western people just aren't capable of learning it? It's such a fucking rewire and adult minds are so calcified and beaten down by age and responsibilities before even considering its difficulty. It's a lot to ask someone to do something they don't absolutely need to function day to day. Simple inconveniences and routine changes are already a mindfuck for most people. You're very special and smart, you smug poindexter piece of dabido shit, for learning it - but it's an unreasonable ask. The language (and culture entwined with it) is such a mindfuck that they've managed to retain most of their homogeneity and culture DESPITE being a western vassal state since WW2. Don't play it down in bad faith to me, you worm.
>>11348335I want to see someone announce Shadowrun or SMT MEGACD, that one would cause asshurt too.
I agree with everyone saying "fuck the dibs rules, especially after 10 years", but if that guy wants to translate the game he should and would start over, precisely to avoid some drama AND because it's probably easier to start over than to figure out what kind of unfinished broken mess they did in there.Which is why I don't believe the guy wants to actual finish the translation. It's probably just a "fuck you for sitting on this for 10 years" move for drama which everyone is falling for.>>11348517well yeah, when you hear about all the drama you certainly don't want to join the community to find a translator
>>11348619
Lol those two are back to doing the same bit where they say their current build is nearly complete, they're working on it, and they plan on releasing it when it's done.Now they can add the classic "we got dibs on this game, don't you dare translate it before we do" bit.Call them for what they are guys they're scumbags. Scumbags farming for attention.
I say make it a race.You want to release your "nearly complete we swear" build before the other guy does? Get to it.
>>11347641In 10 years time even with a full-time job and a hobby you'd be able to learn Japanese, a few coding languages, best practices in reverse engineering and be able to release a fully completed patch of Princess Crown and a patched version with the kinks worked out with a few years to spare despite having to deal with a Saturn.In 7 years these guys managed to not complete "2 months of work" which included the kung-flu period where everyone was jerking off at home. I get the "reserved translation" from a wasted work perspective, but that only worked with actual old school translators that are a proper community of sorts (before that retard Gideon's time) and even then it bred a bunch of entitled morons who can't finish their imagined job they didn't even start half the time.
>>11348615>I agree with everyone saying "fuck the dibs rules, especially after 10 years", but if that guy wants to translate the game he should and would start over, precisely to avoid some drama AND because it's probably easier to start over than to figure out what kind of unfinished broken mess they did in there.He shouldn't have interacted with anyone in the scene at all, just like the Persona 2 EP people. They just posted, acknowledged some people who said thanks and dipped outta the fucking internet.Doing some mental gymnastics in an irrelevant literally what forum will just cause further divide.The one who gets the most credit is the one who releases it not the one who makes promises and doesn't deliver anything in this emulation scene.
>>11348615>he should throw away work done previously and take longer instead of using freely available shitDrama queens will react regardless of what he did
Just a reminder that old school translators did not take more than ~2 years to translate something. Not even Aeon Genesis, despite the retards that they are, is this bad. Even Dynamic Designs wasn't this bad.I think, if my memory is right, even Mato, an actual professional translator with a job and a wife, took like ~2 years of on and off work on T-Edition to finally hack that shit and insert the English script into it.And I doubt that any of these mongoloid games takes even half the effort of hacking and actually translating T-Edition.
>>11348724The issue isn't translation, it's text related, I don't think the original guys knew anything about programming with the Saturn and were just winging it
>>11348727CyberTard considers themselves a "Sega Saturn expert". Now I know this might not mean they know how to actually program on a Saturn, but this is said in a programming context so it's fair to say they figured that out in 10 years. The old version doesn't have that.
>>11348727>The issue isn't translation, it's text related, I don't think the original guys knew anything about programming with the Saturn and were just winging itWhich is the point of a team, they should have asked for help since there are a lot of talented programmers out there that are sure to be willing to help.But what did they do? Made the github private and pretend that they were "working on it" behind the scenes when in fact there's no progress done, they can't even prove half the shit they claim to have achieved with any screenshots or a video that it's already playable on a better state than this version 0.3 translation.It's all shitflinging just because the original ones want to claim "dibs" on the translation work.If you take a dibs on something, have the actual self-respect to finish it or at least actually work on it.
>>11348727See if this was 10 years ago I would agree with this, the saturn was still pretty unknown territory and few if any people were capable of hacking it those who did were usually very specific about what they choose to work on basically like PC-engine (which is still like this to this very day) That doesn't quite apply now though, there's very solid understanding of the Saturn and its hardware, and if the problem was PC specific they could have at least tried asking the community for some extra help I dunno man, ghosting people for years with a vague promise "it'll be done" and then only coming back to seethe over someone else just looks bad
one should also not forget that constant updates and breadcrumbs might lead to another gideon incident where he got burnt out because of constant questions about how long it takes to release.but at least gideon releases on time and when he says it's nearly done you can expect a few months before it gets released.but he's still a faggot, so it evens out.
>>11348747gideon? You mean the gideon who fucking started the "DIBS" fucking trend in hacking and translation? The same faggot who refused to release a complete translation of smt just because of some petty comments about his work? The very same faggot who abandoned projects because he has a snowflake skin? That gideon?Maybe you're thinking of Tom?
What's the point of this game again when Odin's Sphere and Dragon's Crown exists?Isn't this like playing King's Field when Dark Souls 1 Remastered exists?
>11349032Low effort bait
>>11348613This one is flat out strange>English script was dumped ages ago>Someone was working on hacking it in and disappeared from the face of the earth>French and Russian version which are translation of the english script dump have been available for 10+ years>The last major Mega Drive cartridge release for Japan
Let me guess, the lazy fucks will finally get their thumbs out of their asses and finish the damn translation.
>>11349118no they'll just bitch and moan until they get their way and then do nothing
>>11349032It's more like a 2d threads of fate for teh saturn
>>11349121One way or another this ends positive. There's three scenarios1. They stop being lazy fucks and finish the damn thing2. The new guy gets help with the spaghetti code and gets it in a playable state3. Official confirmation that it is abandoned/canceled, now anyone who feels like translating this game can do it without somekind of community stigma bullshit. Incomparison to the early 2010s SEGA Saturn is very well documented.
>>11348735CyberWarrior is a long time dev in the Saturn Scene. Maybe you should go look at the credits for a lot of other translation patches on Saturn. You're going to see a lot of the same names because the Saturn dev scene while very active isn't that big. >>11348745The same solid understanding was there 10 years ago. The issue was more we didn't have good debugging tools and emulators to rapidly test with. There's still very weird jank you run into with these Japanese games that can be quite convoluted to debug and take a long time to get properly sorted out.>I dunno man, ghosting people for years with a vague promise "it'll be done" and then only coming back to seethe over someone else just looks badThat's not quite what's going on though. The reason they're both upset and the reason you're seeing others in the community come to their defense is that they weren't ghosting people for years. They were both easily contacted through various means. Many in the community are in regular contact with them. All that needed to be done was send a PM, reach out on discord, send an email, etc. But no one did that.
>>11349140>CyberWarrior is a long time dev in the Saturn Scene.He's currently making the Saturn emulator for that utter scam the Polymega. Which has brilliant emulation like this. Everyone is better off with eadmaster in charge of this translation than this guy.
the damage control has begun
>>11349132>3. Official confirmation that it is abandoned/canceled, now anyone who feels like translating this game can do it without somekind of community stigma bullshit.The issue isn't that they started translating it. The issue is they used someone elses work to do it without their permission. No one is stopping you from taking your disc and starting to snoop around and reverse engineer it yourself to do your own translationThe problem is that no one sitting here bitching and complaining about the translation taking too long wants to actually step up and do all that work from scratch themselves.
>>11349152>The issue is they used someone elses work to do it without their permissionNobody needs or cares about your permission, Cyber.
>>11349140>they weren't ghosting people for years. They were both easily contacted through various means. Many in the community are in regular contact with them. All that needed to be done was send a PM, reach out on discord, send an email, etc. But no one did that.Sorry but anyone can read the locked princess crown translation thread. The guy completely ghosted the community and got the thread locked because of it.Even his github link is a 404.You can claim and sit on a translation all you want, but after a decade and complete radio silence you can't really complain if someone comes in and tries to finish your job.
>>11349152The original devs published their script and patch code under the GPL. This gives anyone who has a copy of the code permission to modify it and distribute modified copies. It's not like they hacked into someone's computer and stole a copy of the script. I don't understand publicly releasing stuff and then complaining that you're embarrassed about it. If it's so embarrassing, don't release it in the first place.
>>11348165That's fucking cringe.Why the fuck would you listen to these retards? We're already almost half way through this decade and nothing is out.
>>11349165It's embarrassing because he totally has a much newer version that blows the doors off this old one completely. No you can't see it, but it for sure exists! Trust the guy who has been "working" on it for ten years with no real updates. Any day he was going to release it, surely.
>>11349140>is that they weren't ghosting people for years. They were both easily contacted through various means. Many in the community are in regular contact with them. All that needed to be done was send a PM, reach out on discord, send an email, etc. But no one did that.Come on bro, the RDHN thread was so dead it was locked because Cyberwarrior never posted there for years and the mods assumed he just gave up, he absolutely ghosted them, this isn't a case like say, the guy behind the samsho RPG who was still active for years even if it seemed like he gave up (he did for a while but that's besides the point) at the end of the day if you tried to reach out to someone and they don't respond in over a year or more, safe to say he's ghosting everyone and basically gave up
>>11349167You will play NOTHING, and you WILL like it.
>>11348191>One has popped upWhere?All i saw was some fork with nothing completed.
Does anyone have the unfinished script btw?
>>11348323 What happened with Bulk Slash?
>>11349183Nothing happened. Some people are still buttmad that they fandubbed it and that one of the voice actors is a tranny.The truth is the game was more suited to a dub and they did a good job of it.
So where's that new video that's totally gonna blow everyone socks off? Oh wait...
>>11349152Seems that repo was under GPL. So really, the only reason to start from scratch is to avoid this sort of "drama", which as some others have said, would've happened anyway.Anyway, seems the eadmaster got an "interview" by Sega Saturn Shiro just now. Is it just me or does it feel somewhat biased?
>>11349140Sure and if you read my post, whilst skeptical and demeaning because he's acting like a bit of faggot, you'd know I'd at least give him credit enough to know how to insert text without it looking like ass, which the post I'm replying implies he doesn't because I assume he's going off the old version that the new repo has.
>>11349191The interview was done by PandaMonium, screenshot from the end of his four and a half hour long video about Virtua Cop. I love how the typical reaction from people asking for an update after ten years is "Make it yourself" and this guy did just that and predictably they sperg out anyway because it's all about ego and protecting their super special OC doughnut steel open source code.
>>11349162>>11349169>But the RHDN thread!The thread on SegaXtreme is not locked. Both CyberWarriorX and SamIAm have active accounts on SegaXtreme and on RHDN before it shut down. They are active in various discord servers. It's stupidly easy to get a hold of them if you actually try.
>>11349215>It's stupidly easy to get a hold of them if you actually tryI too can pester him for an update to something he's been working on for ten years with no proof since 2014 and get a response of "I'm working on it"? What a privilege!
>>11349215>Both CyberWarriorX and SamIAm have active accountsNigga Cyberwarrior stopped posting on SegaXtreme since 2017 We LITERALLY have his post history, he only came back to complain, he's not even active on his own twitter often, I dunno shit about sam but it seems like he wasn't too active either>DiscordOh yeah. Just ping them and ask and then get banned by mods. Good stuff lad.
>>11349213Thanks for the screenie. I remember that shit. Sometimes it's just best to maintain radio silence but attention is one hell of a drug.
>>11349221>He stopped posting in 2017!!!>We can use the search function!!!Did you actually try sending him an PM?>I'll get banned for asking on discord!No you wont. You will get banned if you make an ass of yourself though.
>>11349213>Don't like it? Make your game then!>Make game>Controversy Same energy
The game sucks
>>11349230>Did you actually try sending him an PM?Oh sure anon, just let me send one of many PMs of some guy who's account hasn't been active in 5 +years!, I'm sure I'll get a reply this time!>No you wont.*gets banned*
>>11349235Yeah it's pretty looking and sucks.
>>11349237I 100% guarantee if you asked him if you could fork his open source code (something you don't need permission to do) he would have responded in a heartbeat to tell you no. Which is when you do it anyway out of spite and because you can.
Cyberfag defense force ITT
>>11348517Better than nothing.Think of it this way, CyberShadowX was probably planning to make his translation the definite experience but was planning on applying and removing things for the sake of western sensibilities like the most recent VW game.
>>11349242is it really a force if it's just one faggot
>>11349240Holy projection batman. Are we still on 4chan or an Imax screening?
>>11349232this instance manages to be more farcical because they had a github which had an open licence and left it public all these years..."BUT YOU'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO USE IT, STOP IMMEDIATELY"
>>11349249How is that projection? This guy is clearly a whiny faggot about people using his open source code. If anyone asked he obviously would have said no.
ITT:A whole lot of drama about something that at its worst is just a "faux pas".
>>11349256can it really be called drama when it's only two people being the drama queens
>>11349184They have AI, just replace the tranny and host it at Based Mods/Modding Haven/Baddest Hacks.
>>11349191I'm reading the interview right now and the bias is to be expected given their previous collaborations in the past.
>>11349140>CyberWarrior is a long time dev in the Saturn Scene.Many people who were "longtime devs" of something are washed up hasbins now. If you used to deliver but stopped delivering, then I care not about your using your past to try to control the future.>The same solid understanding was there 10 years ago.You're a goddamn idiot if you think we have the same understanding of the Saturn today as we did a decade ago, emulators were a total joke a decade ago, and a good chunk of the reason for that is because of lack of understanding and documentation. We didn't even know how the disk drive mechanics fully worked until Dr. Abrasive released his ODE a few years ago.>The reason they're both upset and the reason you're seeing others in the community come to their defense is that they weren't ghosting people for years. They had not logged into their RHDN account since 2022 and SegaXtreme account in 2017.>All that needed to be done was send a PM, reach out on discord, send an email, etc. But no one did that.They didn't need to, the code was released under GPL, anyone can fork it without permission, and Cyber has stated that if he was contacted he would not have given permission anyway, just further leaving people with jack shit but over a decade of promises with nothing to show for it. You know, for such an amazing super-genius that you love to try to claim that he is, he surprisingly knows jack shit about how open source licenses work...>>11349141Is THIS why he basically disappeared and stopped working on it? Because he was hired for that scam? I have even less sympathy for him now.>>11349152>The issue is they used someone elses work to do it without their permission.Open-source GPL, bitch.Not like they weren't credited either, ed flat out said that Cyber and Sam did most of the work.>>11349215>CyberWarriorX has an active SegaXtreme accountHe had not logged into his SegaXtreme account since 2017 before this drama, nice lying.
>>11349240>I 100% guarantee if you asked him if you could fork his open source code (something you don't need permission to do) he would have responded in a heartbeat to tell you no.He flat out said he would have said no if asked, so it's completely a moot point anyway. Not like you need permission to fork GPL code though.>>11349248>is it really a force if it's just one faggotPretty much. We all know it's Trekkie, it's not only the same posting style but even the same already discredited talking points, insisting you can "contact him" and that he is "Active on SegaXtreme and RHDN" when it's been pointed out that he had not logged in in years. He made those exact same arguments in the SegaXtreme thread. Same goes for acting like people stole his code and refusing to acknowledge the GPL license.I told you before Trekkie, fuck off, we know it's you, and you are not welcome here. You don't even know how to post here properly.
>>11349265>emulators were a total joke a decade ago,Mednafen was around back then and is still the go to emulator to use by most of us. Yabause has better debugging tools still but the emulation itself is awful.>We didn't even know how the disk drive mechanics fully worked until Dr. Abrasive released his ODE a few years ago.For doing homebrew and translation hacks you don't need to know any of that. From a software stand point the CD-ROM block is a black box. As long as the software gets the data it requested at the speed it expects, it doesn't care.>They had not logged into their RHDN account since 2022 and SegaXtreme account in 2017.And what about SamIAm? Did you forget he was the one that actually made the original threads? >He had not logged into his SegaXtreme account since 2017.That doesn't mean he wont respond if you send a PM.
>>11349280>Yabause has better debugging tools still but the emulation itself is awfulYou'll never guess who contributed to that.
>>11349264Yeah, their recent article about it was very one-sided and they are clearly trying to prop up CyberWarrior as in the right.Thankfully none of their fans seem to agree with them and see through their bullshit, their website and Twitter is full of replies calling out Cyber. Even places that you would expect them to instantly side with Cyber like GBATemp or ResetEra are against him for the most part.
>>11349282Stop posting screenshots of your own tweets Tomo.
>>11349280>Mednafen was around back then and is still the go to emulator to use by most of usOh I've tried that mess's Saturn emulation, what a joke even today.> As long as the software gets the data it requested at the speed it expects, it doesn't care.And guess what you need to know about when said software tries to access that data in a funny way? Also, you realize that was not the only unknown, right?>And what about SamIAm?You mean picrel? The guy who made the original thread on SegaXtreme and then did not say a single word during all of this because he has not logged in in TWELVE YEARS???Like I said Trekkie, we know it's you, and you are not welcome here.>>11349281No wonder it's shit, even Trekkie admitted it.
>>11349105did any of those patch fix the softlock bug?
>>11346134Christmas came early this year.
>>11349298>Oh I've tried that mess's Saturn emulation, what a joke even today.Mednafen is probably the best emulator we have to test with. So not sure what drugs you're on.>And guess what you need to know about when said software tries to access that data in a funny way?All games are going to be accessing that data through the same libraries Sega provided for using the CD-ROM block. Documentation on the inner workings were not released to developers because it was supposed to be a black box so Sega could swap out the hardware later if necessary either due to cost cutting or part availability.So from a software standpoint you don't need to know the inner workings of the CD-ROM block. You don't even have access to any of that hardware or code running on it. Everything you are concerned about and have control over is outside the CD-ROM block.>Also, you realize that was not the only unknown, right?Ok what else was unknown about the Saturn and keeping translation patches held up?>The guy who made the original thread on SegaXtreme and then did not say a single word during all of this because he has not logged in in TWELVE YEARS???He responds to PMs regularly with other members and can easily be approached in various different discord servers. He literally works with Pandamonium on a monthly basis doing translations for his videos.
>>11349316No PM in the world is going to make a lazy retard sitting on a project for ten years actually do something.
>>11349184dubs sucks regardless of your gender.>The truth is the game was more suited to a dub and they did a good job of it.wrong
>>11349328If you want to reverse engineer the game to draw subtitles instead no one is stopping you.
>>11349316>Mednafen is probably the best emulator we have to test with. So not sure what drugs you're on.And yet it's still trash.>All games are going to be accessing that data through the same libraries Sega provided for using the CD-ROM block.Again, as you admitted, it has black box functions and that is hardly the only thing not 100% understood. No emulator currently passes all hardware tests.>He responds to PMs regularly with other membersAgain, he has not logged in since 2012.And you know what? It's a moot point, because it doesn't matter.>"B-B-but you can contact him if you go to this other site and jump through these hoops an-"No no no, shut the fuck up Trekkie, listen to me.ITDOESN'TMATTERWhy?1. Cyber already said he would not have granted permission anyway2. We don't NEED his permission to fork a GPL projectNothing of what eadmaster did was wrong. So all this bullshit that you love to keep going on and on and on about on contacting them?ITDOESN'TMATTERI know that you want to shit on here because the SegaXtreme thread was temporarily locked and literally every other place is siding against CyberWarriorX and SamIAm, but you are not welcome here either, and all your bullshit does not matter, because eadmaster did nothing wrong and all Cyber and Sam can do is cry about it after dragging us along for 12 years with nothing to show for it other than what eadmaster finally gave up. I can't wait for you to disregard the mod's warning about no more drama when the thread gets unlocked so you can get hit with the banhammer. Literally nobody is on your side, so you can fuck right off from here too.
>I was invited to replace the original script with an Uncensored versionWait, what?
funny how those two couch potatoes and their sycophant seem to live in a completely different reality. good thing we have the receipts. you can argue opinions but you can't change the facts.
>>11349334>And yet it's still trash.So make a better one then if you're so talented.>Again, as you admitted, it has black box functions and that is hardly the only thing not 100% understood. No emulator currently passes all hardware tests.Sure, which is why devs only use emulators for their debuggers and for quick tests. The final test is always real hardware.>IT DOESN'T MATTER!!!11!!!Sure, but it's still a shitty thing to do and is still going to cause this kind of drama. The point was that the drama could have been avoided by asking.> I can't wait for you to disregard the mod's warning about no more drama when the thread gets unlocked so you can get hit with the banhammer.Antime literally reiterated what Trekkies and a lot of other devs were saying.
>>11349215>The thread on SegaXtreme is not locked.Well it is now.
>>11349340>Independent Japanese to English Translator Certified with Level N5, by a Fan, for the Fans.Fucking kek
Trekkie stop shitposting
>>11349353>going for the N4 this yearHoly shit I'm dying.
>>11349239>>11349235Better than Faggot Fantasy 7 thobeit
>>11348323I'm still pissed about that unnecessary bitch fit resulting from that one English dub line in the Popolocrois beginning. It simply was not audible on the first release yet the patch creators took it personally when people complained about it and made it into a big drama show about evil translation purists complaining for no reason.
>>11349353>Level N5Ganbare JSL-sama!!!
>>11349350Cysisters.....is it over?
>>11349349>The point was that the drama could have been avoided by askingYeah he should have been told no so some faggot who made two dogshit Saturn emulators could continue giving people false hope of it ever being completed.
>>11349350Cyberwarrior bros....it's over
>>11349340>>11349353I mean, I don't mind.Do your best.
>>11349373It was over a long time ago. Before they locked the RHDN thread even.
>>11349376Nah, it will be reopened in a few days. If you guys keep shitposting in it though you'll probably get banned.
princess crown fans just can't catch a break, can they... the hits just keep on coming
>>11349380Shut up trekkie, you stoked the flames you're no better faggot.
>>11349380I do what I want!
>>11349378N5s can't even comprehend basic fucking sentences. You could start learning right after you finish reading this sentence and you'd be on his "level" within a week or two.
>>11349349>So make a better one then if you're so talented.A movie critic does not have to be a director to review a movie and say it sucks. Your argument was that saturn emulation was great even 10 years ago, when it's not that great even today. I don't need to be an emulator developer to see that.>Sure, which is why devs only use emulators for their debuggers and for quick testsAnd that's how we got all those broken romhacks that didn't work on more accurate emulators and real hardware back in the Zsnes era.>Sure, but it's still a shitty thing to doPeople fork GPL code all the time, and RDHN is full of addendum romhacks that improve existing translations from years ago. The entire Linux project would be dead if everyone had to ask permission for everything. You know what is also a shitty thing to do? Taking over a decade to translate something, say it's almost done, then release nothing for five years later and just disappear. You know another shitty thing to do? Basically call dibs on a translation then sit your ass on it, only to cry when someone else pics up your slack. You know another shitty thing to do? Ghost everyone so you can work on a broken emulator for a scam product. You know the shittiest thing to do? Being you.>and a lot of other devs were sayingAgain, literally nobody on any forum, site, tweet, subreddit, whatever talking about this is on Cyber/Sam's side.
>>11349391Time for some sovlful early 2000s tier fan translation kino.
>>11349391If i learn jap for at least a month straight, would i reach N3 in no moments time?
>>11349395We all have to start somewhere. At least there's people working on this cursed game for once.
>>11349365Details? What was changed? And do you mean those Poplocrois JRPGs for the PS1 or the mainline Poplocrois god-games?>>11349380>If you guys keep shitposting in it though you'll probably get banned.Friendly reminder that nearly every post on that thread made in 2024 was getting likes... except Trekkie's. There were people liking both eadmaster and CyberWarrior's posts, as well as nearly everyone else's posts.... but practically nobody on either side like Trekkie.You might want to take this as an opportunity to reflect on how nobody likes you even there, not even people on "your side".... or don't and get banned so we don't have to deal with your bullshit there ever again.
>>11349394>Your argument was that saturn emulation was great even 10 years agoNo, I said the emulators we use to test with today are the same ones we had 10 years ago.>And that's how we got all those broken romhacks that didn't work on more accurate emulators and real hardware back in the Zsnes era.Which is why I said the final test is always on real hardware.>It was GPL so you don't have to ask!Sure, no one is denying that. What's being said is when the project is still actively being worked on it's a shitty thing to do without at least saying "Hey are you still working on this? Can I help?".
>when the project is still actively being worked onLMAOOOOO
fuck cyberfag me and my homies hate that faggot like trekkie the retard
>>11349416>when the project is still actively being worked onok this guy is trolling
>>11349416>What's being said is when the project is still actively being worked onBait used to be believable
>>11349398In terms of getting the cert, highly doubtful even if you hole yourself up in a mountain. In terms of beginning to not be a complete shitter, not a chance.
>>11349416>wow asshole I was just about to finish up work on my ROMhack I've been working on for 12 years any day now, no you can't see it but it's coming trust me
.... That griffon has boobies
>>11349416>when the project is still actively being worked onshow one concrete and undeniable proof of this from 2017 to a few days ago before cybercuck and trekkiefag got triggered.just one. please.
>>11349430newcomers will see your post and think it's an exageration but it's notthis is exactly what's happening and has been the status quo for more than a decadeany day now
>>11349436>this is exactly what's happening and has been the status quo for more than a decadethanks to that huge fucking faggot dramawhore gideon.
>>11349340HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA>N5 shitter>calling to raise funds for Princess Clown and other projects>not a single person took the bait and donatedholy fucking shit my sides
>>11349394>Taking over a decade to translate something, say it's almost done, then release nothing for five years later Honestly I can get becoming overwhelmed, pulling the plug and saying fuck it. Shit happens and people move on from things in life, he wasn't contractually obligated or something to deliver.Except in this case the guy resurfaces after going incognito for 5 years to be butthurt about someone using code released as open source, one day after it was posted.Seriously what is there to be mad about, what is hen going to put it his CV or something?Yeah I was trying to translate Princess Crown for 10 years and failed.Complete utter lack of character.
>>11349416>No, I said the emulators we use to test with today are the same ones we had 10 years ago.So not only did the emulators suck 10 years ago but they aren't even any better today? Lovely.>the project is still actively being worked onPic related
>>11349406>mainline Poplocrois god-gamesThat's Populous you dingus!I'm talking about that whimsical PSX JRPG. There was one short narrated line in Japanese that didn't have a respective text window programmed in the game and the TL team decided to have one of the team member's e-girlfriend record an English take for it. But due to the game using a low samplerate and the English recording not being made/processed with that in mind it was extremely hard to hear.At the same time some users were bitching about a random English dub line in the otherwise Japanese audio language game so any remarks about the English voice line being inaudible went under in the RHDN thread with the TL team head honcho having a shitfit about people rejecting his e-girlfriends voice and whining about purists.I would have just kept the Japanese audio for that one sentence and put the TL in the readme.
>>11349439The jokes about this shit literally write themselves.Whoever is on this project needs to unironically scrap it and start all over from zero after finding people who are actually competent and not literal chariot chasing N5 wannabes who couldn't make it through an episode of Chibi Maruko Chan without stopping every 5 seconds to look up every word they just heard.
>>11349441>So not only did the emulators suck 10 years ago but they aren't even any better today? Lovely.There have been some improvements, but still not enough to 100% trust the behavior. For simply debugging the assembly code that was fine 10 years ago and is still fine. For translation patches that's generally all you need to start making your code changes.Where things start to break is with stuff like VDP2 Cycle patterns, bus contention, memory speed, and VDP1 fillrate not being accurate for performance, etc. That's where you use real hardware to test and make sure things aren't broken.
>What's being said is when the project is still actively being worked on
Sam and CyberBoth of you are done.You're done.
>>11347035You and everyone else saying the site "shut down"/"doesn't exist anymore" are the ones being retarded on purpose. Just say it went read only for fucks sake
>>11349440>Honestly I can get becoming overwhelmed, pulling the plug and saying fuck it. Shit happens and people move on from things in life, he wasn't contractually obligated or something to deliver.>Except in this case the guy resurfaces after going incognito for 5 years to be butthurt about someone using code released as open source, one day after it was posted.This! Nobody is owed a translation, especially for free. Projects fail for many reasons, but if it has failed and/or you have clearly lost interest then let people know so they can move on. Holding onto it so you can basically have called dibs for eternity and then bitching when someone actually makes use of your unfinished work is just being a jackass, especially when you posted your unfinished work as open source code, older version or not.>>11349442>>mainline Poplocrois god-games>That's Populous you dingus!To be fair their names are very similar. So you're talking about pic related? So was the line kept or eventually removed? I can see why they would have just dubbed that line if it's the only non-subtitled line in the game, much easier than hacking in an entire subtitle system for that one moment. Why are they even complaining? Star Ocean on the SNES had like two minute long ENGLISH VA intro despite all the other voiceacting in that game being in Japanese, and that was official.>>11349448I bet he thinks he's going to BTFO all of us when Cyber/Sam post a video of the supposed 0.9 they said they will record in response to this. Problem is is doesn't matter if they are on version 0.9 or 99.0, you can't play a video. There is still no release date, Cyber when asked literally gave a Duke Nukem Forever reply of "When it's done". At the end of the day even if their translation is farther along, one of them will just be a short video example, the other will actually be playable. Which one do you think people will care about more? Especially after over 12 years of nothing with still no release date?
>>11349460The forums are still up and running, Cyber could have requested that his thread be re-opened because his project is not dead, but he still has not. He even logged in again just once more a few months ago just to go "I am sad RHDN is closing" and that's it, didn't even request his thread be re-opened then. He only made a squeak about this project when someone else finally got tired of his BS and decided to actually do something.
>>11349475I'm not talking about this drama I just mean I saw alot of people saying romhacking.net shut down and implying you could only get the data on the internet archive and was confused when it was clearly still up, everyone misworded their discussion over that whole thing
>>11349470> There is still no release date, Cyber when asked literally gave a Duke Nukem Forever reply of "When it's done".That's because announcing a release date is one of the dumbest things you can do when working on a translation patch. Anything could happen at the last second to cause you to have to delay it. And then you get this same angry mob lashing out at you for missing the deadline. These aren't paid projects with full corporations backing them with a massive team of developers. It's a handful of fans at best doing it in what little free time they have. Having the stress of a release date and an angry mob on your back if you miss said release date does nothing but add unnecessary burdens on the team.
>>11349481Oh they're the victims now, my bad.
>>11346134We need a trad for this gem !!!!!!!!https://cdromance.org/sega_saturn_isos/bakuretsu-hunter-r-japan/
>>11349481>That's because announcing a release date is one of the dumbest things you can do when working on a translation patchClearly stringing people along for twelve years is a much smarter idea.
>>11349492There was nothing stopping you from doing your own translation from scratch during those 12 years.
>>11349496Hello, I did.
>>11349496Except there was: two drama queen lazy retards saying they were already working on it.
>>11349481>And then you get this same angry mob lashing out at you for missing the deadline.Because there totally isn't an angry mob now after Cyber started whining that someone else finally did something., Notice there as no angry mob when eadmaster released the translation, that only surfaced after Cyber started bitching about it.Also, look familiar?https://www.romhacking.net/forum/index.php?topic=15979.msg370722#msg370722>I think it's safe to say there's a minimum of two months of work left. That's assuming both SamIAm and I were working on this full time which we aren't. Probably looking more like the latter half of 2019.-Posted by CyberWarriorX, February 12, 2019And before you start to go "B-b-but Covid" not only was that later in 2020, not 2019, but they would have had MORE time being stuck at home, not less. Even then, it's 20fucking24 and still nothing, with the thread locked in 2023.I can't imagine how badly your lips must stink from all that ass kissing.
>>11349496Of course. Starting your own fan-translation from scratch when there's a project for it already and ostensibly "in the works guys, trust me", sounds like a perfectly reasonable thing to do. It's only common sense.
>>11349470>hacking in an entire subtitle systemthe earlier build actually already implemented this, the preview video was uploaded on the hacker's channel.
>>11349496>There was nothing stopping you from doing your own translation from scratch during those 12 years.There's nothing stopping someone from legally forking over GPL code to continue someone else's dead work either. No, it's not a shitty thing to do, that's literally how the most used operating system on the entire planet that runs everything works.
>>11349496>Just make your translation bro>Also, get blacklisted or guilt tripped it's easy!
>>11349445Genuinely where do they find these people. ead walked up to this guy asking for his non-existent expertise too, not the other way around.
>>11349365All they had to do was make the dub an optional choice. It's not even the fact that it was a tranny doing a shitty job, it's that there was no reason for the narrator to be replaced wholesale when meduza even stated that it was entirely possible to have the JP lines subtitled using an already-existing code base that other PS1 translations have been using.But no, gotta fuck everything up by making you waste hundreds of megabytes downloading a fat ugly troon's bad voiceover that replaces a seiyuu so famous that she's been in every fifth anime/game to have come out since the late 80s. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kikuko_Inoue
>>11349505That doesn't mean you can't do your own from scratch. It just means they're doing their own patch as well and you need to do your own work.>>11349513> that only surfaced after Cyber started bitching about it.The obsessed mob around this game has been there for years. It's also started to spill over into other projects.> They said 2 months!They said 2 months of work, not that it will be out in 2 months. And again as I said setting any kind of release is a dumb thing to do for this exact reason. It just fuels the mob if you end up missing it.>>11349517Sure, there's nothing legally stopping you. It's still seen as a shit thing to do by a lot of people in the community which is why there's now drama.
>le communitykill yourself
>>11349539>It's still seen as a shit thing to do by a lot of people in the communityThe community of one ballwasher and the two retards who sat on the project for 12 years. Their respect means a lot.
>>11349539>communityThis is how we got into this shit in the first place and why fan translations stagnated for over 2 decades now
>>11349539>. It's still seen as a shit thing to do by a lot of people in the community
>>11349539>and you need to do your own workNo I don't, not if it's GPL>The obsessed mob around this game has been there for yearsPeople were praising this release until Cyber started vomiting drama all over it>They said 2 months of work, not that it will be out in 2 monthsTrkkie, I am really really getting sick of your selective reading. People on the SegaXtreme forums weren't falling for it, and we here sure as fuck are not going to fall for it. You know DAMN. FUCKING. WELL. that the line I quoted flat out said "Probably looking more like the latter half of 2019" which you intentionally ignored to try to keep kissing Cyber's ass, instead choosing to focus on the two months part and attempting to re-interpret it.>It just fuels the mob if you end up missing it.Except everyone was still cheering Cyber on at the time when he missed his 2019 deadline.You could not possibly be a bigger fucking idiot Trekkie, your level of debating online is the kind I saw from young teenagers decades ago on random forums. Nobody is falling for your strawmans and intentional ignoring of facts to ty to cherry-pick your responses. Do kindly fuck off.>It's still seen as a shit thing to doNo it's not. The only shitty thing here is you>which is why there's now dramaNo, there's drama because Cyber decided to whine like a baby because of his blueballing people for 12 years bullshit came back to bite him in the ass
https://segaxtreme.net/threads/translating-shin-megami-tensei-devil-summoner-soul-hackers.25342/page-3>last postlol lmao
There are tons of actually credible and silent working translator out there in the scene and all we get are machine translations or that fucking n5 moron who begs for money, lmao.
>>11349559>your level of debating online is the kind I saw from young teenagers decades ago on random forumslol that's exactly what it is, and it can be seen all over this thread too thanks to him
>>11349564Trekkieboy really trying to be the next cybercuck and stall a project forever
>>11349564At least he updates.....
>>11349528> JP lines subtitled using an already-existing code base that other PS1 translations have been using.Cool, good to know that in theory this makes a lot PCE-CD, PC-FX and Mega CD games viable for translation.
/ourguy/ is disappointed by you
>>11349604>controlled hugboxes support the status quo of calling dibs on something and having everyone unquestioningly suck you off for a decade with nothing to show for itEarth shaking revelation.
>https://segaxtreme.net/threads/help-me-translate-princess-crown.18555/the cyber warrior x meltdown is pure gold.glad he's getting called out by the community.>He's not claiming anything as his own and has been clear about using your work, he even posted it in SamIAm's thread here rather than make his own thread and not mention your work or where he got it, how he has proceeded with his own work etc., as he has done. He took GPL work you willingly released, you can't retcon reality, it happened, its use is legal & moral. Don't pretend you're dense to think otherwise, stop lying and bullying.based
>>11349604Dunno who this faggot is but I'm wishing for his death too
>>11349604The other day I saw people on alt-left Twitter clones defending a guy who demanded the forceful installation of intrauterine devices in 14 year old girls.Also >>11349614
>>11349604Right on cue.Those two came out of retirement only to reveal themselves as the pettiest, smallest people in the room. To come out in their defense is a major red flag.
>>11349604>oh no le hecking kys ;(Fine, we'll be nicer. I think he should kill himself, peacefully in his sleep with a kys cocktail and IV drip after two different doctors have confirmed that he should kill himself according to the lawful procedures.
Recap of important stuff:>IT'S DONE (it's not)>N5 beggar with questionable English (aka ESL) "translating" the script making an "uncensored" version (will at best edit an MTL or the existing script and at worst have his garbage edited to be grammatical)>neither side will produce anything of worth>learn Japanese
>>11349604>People on Bluesky and on a Discord that caters to the original translators are in favor of the original translators when literally everyone outside of that controlled hugbox is not.PicrelAnd I do mean everyone, not just Twitter but Reddit, retro gaming sites, gaming forums, everyone. Even places full of exactly their kind of people like GBATemp and ResetEra are against them, literally the only people for them are people in controlled hugboxes that would get banned/blocked if they did not. EVEN HIS OWN WEBSITE has the comments section against him! What a shock then that he then retreats to his hugbox on Bluesky/PrivateDiscord and cries crocodile tears to everyone to hug him back out of earshot of literally everyone else.Also doing a quick search in this thread only two people mentioned anything about anyone dying before this post, one of them directed towards Trekkie claiming people are a community and not towards the translators. But of course, this is going to be framed as "They are sending death threats!". I'm sure these people would also unironically wish death upon people they don't agree with but will see that as being perfectly ok because they are the good guys and the people they want dead are the bad guys. I have flat out seen that exact thing happen multiple times.
>>11349632>>N5 beggar with questionable English (aka ESL) "translating" the script making an "uncensored" version (will at best edit an MTL or the existing script and at worst have his garbage edited to be grammatical)From what I understand this person is only going to be helping with a handful of untranslated stuff. The game's script was translated long ago, twice. Once long before CyberWarrior ever started his project in the forum of a walkthrough translation guide on a website you were meant to follow, and again in the from of the text from Cyber's old repo. (You can see the full text files in ead's repo)
>>11349671>I was invited to replace the original script with an Uncensored version>Yes, I am working on a new Translation and the original person that invited me asked for permission to use my Translations and personally invited me wanting me to replace the original scriptHe's redoing everything
>>11349496Tell that to Ghadaffi
>>11349523I think the guy pivoted to the first thing he could find once this whole thing exploded. Seems like this script already existed in some way, so he went "fuck you I'm going elsewhere". Rash decision.
Funny how all of this could have been avoided if they simply just posted "We are still working on. it"In theory it could have continued for eternity.
>>11349693Huh, I could have sworn I saw ead saying that he was only going to be patching up some untranslated parts of the script, not re-doing the entire thing. Though he also claims that N5 is not his actual level, whatever that means.Though if he really is re-doing the entire thing and his Japanese is bad I hope that the existing translation then can at least act as a guideline.
>>11349723>Though he also claims that N5 is not his actual level, whatever that means.Here's what it means.
>>11349727
Don't bother attempting to translate Langrisser III he's still working on it brahs, doesn't matter that he hasn't talked about it in 15 years
>>11349714>Funny how all of this could have been avoided if they simply just posted "We are still working on. it"My guess is they knew could only bullshit people for so long. Their thread on RHDN was going nowhere, which brings me to my next point.>In theory it could have continued for eternity.If that thread serves as any indication, it actually could have. Mostly because people in general, especially in groups, are really fucking stupid.They got nothing but praise and goodwill there for a whopping ten years, with nothing to show for it. I've been following romhacks for about 15 years and I had never seen such a sustained and overwhelming degree of positivity with only the promise of a release at the end of the tunnel.That thread didn't even get locked due to drama or "an angry mob raging out of control". It went out with a whimper, due to inactivy on the part of the romhackers themselves.
>>11349714Pretty much, yeah. The guy posed in early 2019 that it was almost done and likely going to release in late 2019, then went radio silent for the rest of 2019 as well as all o 2020 and 2021, then posted again once more in 2022 going "I am not dead!" before never posting again, even the admins on RHDN declared the project dead and locked the thread.eadmaster only forked it because he too thought it was dead and decided to take the reigns in finishing it.A simple "Don't worry, still working on it, it's not dead" once or twice a year would have prevented all of this.And of course in his typical brown-nosing fashion Trekkie was intentionally mis-representing that request as people demanding "a status report every 5 minutes" and refused to acknowledge people were only asking for an occasional "I am not dead", or at the bare minimum an "It's not actually dead" when the admins at RHDN declared it dead for almost a year by that point.
>>11349731This guy is like the uber Gideon.
>>11349737Hey, don't shit on Burning Rangers just because that guy likes it.
>>11349741I didn't make the song.
>>11349737Trekkie said this? Holy shit.
>>11349731The Legend of Xanadu translations were entirely finished in 2017, but they wanted to have the "authentic" Supergrafx dub, which they also finished 5 years ago but they still needed to mix and master it, but then apparently some "pro VAs" offered to do it for free, etc. SamIAm might "just" be a translator who might actually finish his work, but he sure has a knack for joining projects that just go on ad infinitum.
>>11348410what the hell, he was removing the honorifics? peak soulless
>>11349737Ladies and gentlemen.....the very song that united all trekkies together.....
>>11349756This could be fine if the setting isn't Japanese, so you can freely use whatever honorifics your target language uses. Only a slight issue there in that Persona 2 is set in a fictional city in Japan, so generally you'd stick to honorifics. Doing it like that contrasts well if your game takes you to a not-Japan location too, makes them seems extra foreign.
>>11349731>Looks up Langrisser III>One result on RHDN>This is an incomplete translation of Langrisser III by Cyber Warrior X. It translates the menu text and replaces most of the game script with a variation of mojibake.>Also included in the zip are the dumped scripts with some of them translated for someone who would like to pick up on this project for completion.>PicrelSo... this dude had no issue releasing this laughably incomplete romhack, and even went "Meh, whatever, someone lese finish it, I'm done" but when it comes to Princess Crown which is mostly translated and playable he is "embarrassed" for people to even look at it, but wasn't embarrassed about picrel? The readme has a version 0.1 and 0.2 before he gave up on it (Hmmm... sound familiar?)This is definitely a "He stole my thunder that I was sitting on for 10 years" moment, not a "I am embarrassed to show my unfinished work" moment. By the way, that's THE ONLY TRANSLATION by him posted on RHDN. There are two other translations where he is credited as having helped with the font decompression, but that's it. One of them is not even a real translation, it's a port of the PS1 translation of Grandia to the Sega Saturn version.And the icing on the cake? Even Trekkie, as much as I can't stand him, did more work on that "translation" than Cyber! Cyber is credited as "Font Decompression", Trekkie is credited as "Script Conversion, Graphics Editing, Assembly Hacking, Voice Synchronization, Reverse Engineering an"... and it cuts off there.Oh, and Cyber has a link to his website in his RDHN profile, which somehow is still up and I swear it's like these jokes write themselves, the last update is from 2016... and talks about both Princess Crown and Langrisser III.
>>11349737I sung this in my head.
>>11349764totally agree, like you wouldn't want honorifics in Ace Attorney its also something that Atlus has been doing forever, so at this point it's endemic to the franchise and it just rubs me wrong that this doofus thought he knew better
>it's another "community use 4chan to shit on each other anonymously when they don't have the guts to do it with nicknames" episode
>>11349803There are definitely people here who were posting in that SegaXtreme thread.
I think it's extremely funny to consider that eadmaster would've probably just taken his project down if he had been asked nicely, but CyberWarriorX decided to be an asshole and declare he was stealing.That's all it would've taken. A little common tact. It's hilarious to see.
>>11349803Imagine instead feeling confident and logging back in to your account just to shit on other people, only to have that backfire on you on an epic scale.Oh wait, that's exactly what's happened!Bravery and stupidity really are the same thing. It's only the outcome that decides which category you fall into.
>>11347013what happened to Tom?
>>11349852Jerry used an anvil
>>11349852Ogres. Ogres everywhere.
>>11349852they changed his design to this, nobody knows why
I saw trekkies defending lunar magic schools fan translation from being censored by scene faggot goon lain iwakura so I don't dislike him. also a week ago I think I saw trekkies inviting others to traanslate things others have taken on if they want.>>11349860they dreamworks'd him and then toonami died, at least this made dubfags suffer for a while.
>>11349693>the person on translating duty can't even pick up on the nuance that going UNCENSORED UNCENSORED everywhere makes people think the original was censored
>>11349827Probably, yeah. Some people don't seem to understand that it's human nature to be defensive when someone else is being aggressive to you like that. You are much more likely to get results from a "Hey, it wasn't dead, I was still working on it and have a much further along version. That one is very incomplete and full of game-breaking crashing bugs, can you please take it down?" than going "You stole it! Why is everyone praising this person who stole my work? Take it down right now! I was going to release it someday, and it would have had blackjack and hookers!".
is this "dibs" thing actually real? Like if someone has the skill and time to translate something someone has "dibs" on, from scratch without using anyone else work, what would stop them from releasing it?
>>11349880Nothing, but the people who take that "rule" too seriously will be a pain in the ass and make you out to be persona non grata. No access to their hugboxes and they'll try and discourage anyone from working with them.
>>11349880>Like if someone has the skill and time to translate something someone has "dibs" on, from scratch without using anyone else work, what would stop them from releasing it?Nothing. Don't forget that legally none of the fan translators have any rights to the games they are translating, it's just that publishers generally look the other way.As for what would happen outside of legality, depending on the person doing the original translation either they would not care and keep working on their version, stop working on their version seeing no point in there being two projects for the same game, or do on a temper tantrum that the other person encroached on a game they had called dibs on. Unless the translator has a previous history of their behavior, there is no way of knowing how they will react.I assume most usually don't translate a game another is translating either because they don't want to encroach on another project, don't want to deal with potential drama if that person explodes, or sees no point in wasting time and talent on translating a game someone else is already translating when they can translate a different game nobody else is doing.
>>11349894Dibs definitely feels like something from when a bunch of well-known games weren't translated and it made sense to limit things so the Square SNES catalog doesn't end up translated five times each while everything else languishes. But now all the low-hanging fruit has been plucked and what's left is either obscure or really hard to do for various reasons. So you end up with more cases where if it is a translation a lot of people care about, dibs means the translation team can just sit there spinning their wheels for a decade.
>stop asking me when the translation is out, it'll be out when it's out
>>11349970>Don't. Tell me. How to translate.
so what i'm gathering from this thread is that a bunch of people involved with the Saturn emulation and romhacking scene are scum
>>11349693>im going to uncensor the script>what was censored to begin with?>uh, i work on projects to uncensor things so trust me
>>11349975>people involved with the emulation and romhacking scene are scumFixed it for you.
>>11349904That's a good point. When emulation itself was new and we were still in the era where there were many games that did not run on the likes of Nesticle, Genecyst, or Zsnes there was pretty much no fan translations, so everything was up for grabs, including mountains of highly sought after imports. It would have been a mess of several groups all did the same game, plus that means less translated games.Now roughly 30 years after all of that a lot of the big ones people wanted are done, the ones left are either obscure games and/or very difficult to translate. It makes far less sense to call dibs, especially if it's going to take over a goddamn decade. There is going to be a lot less stepping on other's toes simply because most of the big ones people would have wanted are done and the chances of two people picking the same game now are much slimmer.This whole dibs system needs to go, as well as doing all behind closed doors, they should be open source projects at this point. Who still does scene stuff in 2024? This isn't the 80s and 90s with BBS systems and cracktros.
>>11349604who????????????
>>11346134Why is the translation community filled with such drama queens, I remember the whole fiasco with Goemon tooWho’s gonna tell these people that nobody cares about anything except for the final product
Persona 2, Mizzurna Falls, and now Princess Crown.Same exact gay ass pattern
>>11349880>is this "dibs" thing actually real?Used to be so ironclad that people would announce that they started a translation project, find out that somebody else (almost 100% Gideon) already laid claim to it several years ago, and then get coaxed into shutting down because of it. Romhacking Dot Net made things worse because their forum was filled with eternal lurkers that didn't make any hacks but had made thousands upon thousands of posts that gave them full power over the website. Of course the dibs rule was established so long ago that new hackers that don't live perpetually on RHDN didn't give a shit and they started uploading their translation patches on their own accord, sometimes not even uploading it to RHDN. People like Cyber still live with that old mentality, all this fucking drama going on is because of that, when really it shouldn't fucking matter.
>>11349975You can arguably say this is the entire scene not just saturn They have produced good stuff over the years but is ruled by so much self destroying autism that's pretty much why we always have these moments
>>11349860This Tom is the reason why he never takes his helmet off.
This patch definitely ain't it but it's based for putting a spotlight on these fat slacker nerds.
What are some of the longest ones that actually got finished? MT2 FC, not that butt-fugly kyuuyaku shit, has to be the longest one I had my eye on. I'm sure Princess Crown was N E V E R gonna be finished, not by these jokers.
>>11350150bet almost all of those hall monitors had the most textbook predictable politics.
Honestly I wonder how much worse Retroarch linked to an OCR AI is than this F U L L W I D T H slop. Probably not much.
>>11349982>>what was censored to begin with?The scene where you "Engage with monster" was changed to "Remain mutual friends with monster"
>>11349496>There was nothing stopping you from doing your own translation from scratch during those 12 years.Fuck you, stupid retarded faggot. You perfectly know that's arguing in bad faith, and that anyone dropping a translation when a team was "supposedly" already working on it for years would have been met with nothing but drama.CyberFaggotX would have a shit-fit anyways because this really isn't about his "translation" being used by someone else, but that "someone else" beat him to the punch and posted it first, stealing his """deserved""" glory.
>>11349771>you wouldn't want honorifics in Ace Attorney
>>11348365sounds like that gatekeeper tranny advia
>>11348273>>11346172It's a leak of an early version from that same retarded faggot. And fuck them btw. They were never going to release it, just like the troon that translated Lunar 3 will never release a patch the rest of us can play. Classic attention whore troon behavior and I hope someone leaks Lunar 3 as well because that's the only way anyone is going to be able to play it these tranny faggots will call dibs and keep shit in limbo for decades of they are allowed to
>>11350769It's not a leak, it was literally posted publicly by the author under an free software licence. That's what makes this so funny, the original translator released it with a licence that allows anyone to use it freely, then took it down and claimed it doesn't count anymore and that you can't use it.
>>11347950He won't reply because he doesn't play games he just trolls for (you)s
Huge Princess Crown fan excited to play Princess Crown for the first time.
>>11350786>Huge Vanillaware fan excited to play Princess Crown for the first time.*FTFY
>>11349880I just don't give a shit about dibs, when I want to do something I don't even check if someone is already doing something similar and barely engage with the community. One time I made a romhack and then someone PM'd me saying he was doing something similar to the same game but worse, apparently he had it been at it for some time but I did that in 2 months. Then I made another romhack that was doing something to a game minus one thing I couldn't do on my own, I released it and turns out some people had been working on doing the same thing + the thing I was missing for a long time and showed crumbs from times to times. That thing hadn't taken me long to make either except for a one year hiatus due to a glitch that pissed me off (due to that one year I'm not even sure who started on it first but I didn't care to find out). Anyway for some time now I always make sure to say in the readme to if someone wants to use what I did as a base for something else they can go ahead and don't need to ask as long they give credit, even if they did ask I'd probably not respond because again I don't give a shit and checked messages on RHDN twice a year. So if those people for the hack that I was missing one thing for want to use my version as a base or just do their own version I don't care either way. Plus in this precise case some players might actually prefer the version that has the thing missing, depending on how that thing is handled in the other version.Also one time I did another hack and someone immediately like 1 week after made another version of the same thing except better, and he was right, that time it was my version which went at it wrong, and that's okay and it evens out the times I may have "wasted somebody else's" time by doing what they were already doingso I don't give a shit about dibs or the community and threads like this comfort me, I just want video games
>>11349265>emulators were a total joke a decade ago, and a good chunk of the reason for that is because of lack of understanding and documentationholy fuck this guythe full original SEGA documentation for the Saturn has been available for 25+ years.emulators like Girigiri were good enough that Sega released them commercially more than 20 years ago.more accurate software emulators like SSF ran most of the library fine by the time I switched to a Core 2 Duo in, I don't even know, 2006 or so. but it could get in-game in my games as far back as 2002, there was just no PC fast enough to run it at the time.
>>11349334>No emulator currently passes all hardware tests.what hardware tests? give me a link to a test rom or iso. i want to check this shit out.
>>11351112>emulators like Girigiri were good enough that Sega released them commercially more than 20 years agoYeah, "good enough" for a small selection of games. And we have all seen how well "good enough" emulators released for a small selection of games fare when you try using them as general emulators for all games like with Nintendo's emulation. Giri was notable years ago because it was one of the few that could play anything at all back then, not for being great. As this thread as proved, even modern Saturn emulators can still be rather poor, see >>11349141
Hmmmmmmmmm
>>11351424>Yeah, "good enough" for a small selection of games.it played hundreds of titles from start to finish
>>11351462Play and play well are two different things, and I was talking about how going "SEGA used it!" doesn't mean much when officially they only released a handful of games for it, didn't it barely even last a year or two before being shut down?
>>11351480
More translator fanfiction drama unfolds as the translation can now be put under the microscope and exposed for what it is - largely wrong and made up.
>>11351496>third worlder that doesn't know English or Japanese tries to "uncensor" a translation>btw please follow me on truthsocial and donate to my gofundmelmfao
>>11351496>can now be put under the microscope>can nowAren't these the files that Cyber posted years ago? Nobody else ever looked at them before?https://web.archive.org/web/20201112022247/https://github.com/cyberwarriorx/pcrownActually, does anyone have a copy of his original repo before it was taken down so we can see if these files are the same?
>>11351526>so we can see if these files are the same?for what?
>can't even tell the difference between 女王 and 王女AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA OH WOWThis is the power of N5s for you.
>>11351431The funny thing is this guy thinks N4 is really any better than N5 and not still at the tip of the iceberg.
>>11351573Nick, stop misgendering people.
>>11351582kek
>>11351526Did someone forget to archive the actual project? Kek, seems pretty useless as is
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>11351582>it's a tranny tooLMFAO
>>11351431what's with the random capitalization
>>11348113>Vanillaware is anti-PC out of pure pettiness at this point, they're never putting their games on PC no matter how retarded they make themselves look.Based Vanillaware not bowing to port-begging PCvegans.
I'm reminded of a thread earlier this year where someone that spent a couple of months studying was talking about translating VNs and got beat down and told to study for another year or two before considering translating. It feels bad to shit on people with good intentions but that's explicitly to avoid shit like this.
>>11351674as long as they bow to switch port beggers you'll be able to play the game on PC anyway
>>11351617A Manuel translation would unironically be of higher quality, what the actual fuck.
>>11351674We can always get someone to reverse engineer their shit whenever. No need to feel too hard about this because it'll take away the only game the PS3 has.
>>11351582Clown world
>>11351617>>11351682Everybody needs to shut the fuck up. I want this shit to come out reading like that.sam/cyber are out, ead/miyaku are inmiyaku, you're the man now dog!
>>11351526Just get one of the forks
>>11351716Honestly you're right, this shit is funny and seeing people grin and eat this will be even funnier.
If ead's translation is being released as open source and all the hard work is tools and methods to re-insert the text back into the game, not the actual translation, than can't someone then just re-translate just the text again and insert that if the script ead uses is trash?
For those that dont know if you want to see every single thing logged on wayback machine without going snapshot to snapshiot, you can use the following url to go over it a bit morehttps://web.archive.org/web/*/https://github.com/cyberwarriorx/pcrown/*unfortunately it doesnt work at the moment due to not all services of archive.org being back up and running but once they are it will populate with anything logged at any time under that url.you know, just in case
>>11351674nice forced buzzword. go on say anotherAlso like others said, you'll be able to play it on PC anyway
>>11351728dickrider tards can't see beyond a temporary high, it doesn't matter because people can play them on pc, including this game, he's too busy fighting an fake war against the people inside his head
I mean, I'm sure miywahetever's translation is gonna be the most meme tier "such things I can't believe" translation of 2024 but the version that's still downloadable now is using Cyberfag's script still
i don't know about you guys but i think miyaku fucks like a tiger
eadmaster: "All your base are belong to us."
>>11348113It's probably because a chinese dev made a clone of their game that was equally fun and is on sale for something around $2 on Steam.
>>11351617I came reading this
>>11351702yeah, I did better translations 20 years ago as a teenager armed with nothing but a kanji dictionary. this shit is so funny.
>>11351617so this is what she meant by uncensored
>>11351781>she
I don't get why the tranny is retranslating (?) everything. Isn't the translation mostly done, just an early/non-edited version?It was released under GPL, don't tell me the guy actually conceded and is scraping it in favor of this terrible translation.
>>11351793I think this is less conceding and more a case of being just retarded, you'd have to try to find someone a bigger joker like this, like it's every bad translator parody wrapped up into one
>>11351721yes, but why bother doing that when talking shit to him is funnier?
Ouch, even Resetera is dunking on the translator, despite being in favor of eadmaster trying to finish Cyber's work. Hopefully ead finds a competent replacement soon.
>>11351793xe is simply uncensoring it :)
I will follow your project's translator on Truth Social and donate to her GoFundMe.>Verification not required.
Speaking of Cyber for a second, any truth the rumor that he intentionally didn't release the translation because of some deal with Polymega? Like maybe they were hoping to strike a deal with Atlus to include it on their download service or something?
>>11351862Wouldn't surprise me
>>11351862Similar shit happens with porn TLs, so that wouldn't be a shock.
I tried to bring up the current situation on that Youtube shill video and the commenter just deleted my comment.Grifters gotta grift, even if this is just gonna last for a few days with people realizing nothing is truly done.
>>11351878>commenter*Moderator
>>11351862>EnigmaHoodNow there's a name I haven't heard in a long time...
>>11348545You can learn Jap in 4-5 years at a steady pace easily.Problem is, if your only motivation is vidya, you are just wasting your life.
>>11351884As opposed to them not knowing the language, complaining about lolcalizations and wasting their life in exactly the same fashion, but more annoyed? Most people learn things for a singular reason, but skills gained by it can be applied in other ways.
>>11351884I'm too retarded to learn moon runes just to play some vidya. If someone else is willing to do the work for me and translate shit, then I'm all for that.
>>11349852the Goemon 3 translation
>>11347013>TomIs he finished with Persona yet? Feels like forever. Hope he's not just teasing people with "it's almost finished dw guys!!!" for the 10th time. He won't even do SMT2 after.
>>11352140He has mentioned Persona two weeks ago.
>>11351570He keeps on coping with "it's an early draft, it's not final, it'll be QA'd". Getting basic shit like this wrong because you don't know Japanese goes beyond just an awkwardly worded rough draft. Genuine clown.
>>11351570hes n5 in english too
>>11352375Don't worry dude anyone is free to lend a hand and improve it if they think it's shit. Why aren't you doing your part?
>>11352495>do my work for me so I can take all the credit and payThis guy
>>11352507That was the case with Racing Lagoon and no one except a couple anons gave a shit.
you guys are being losers!
>>11352519And Racing Lagoon suffers from a similar zero competence problem where the script ~sounds good~ but was clearly not translated for anything resembling accuracy. Anything HillSlop touches turns to dogshit and his whole model relies on a bunch of normalshitters remaining blissfully ignorant of the low ACTUAL quality of the work while living under the false assumption that "well I'm paying $x/month so it must be quality."...All while he doles out the brunt of the script to his legion of volunteer cronies who get $0 of the $800/mo he's raking in.Wonderful world we're living in.
>>11352525For the love of God, why is there a new "translation" group? Just use the script that it's out there, released under GPL
>>11352525Fuck Cyber for sitting on this for over a decade and then coming out of the woodwork to whine about it when someone finally did something, but the new translator's work is pretty poor too. I don't get why ead doesn't just keep the original translations, even others are saying that's what he should do. Who cares about what Cyber/Sam are saying, they would STILL bitch even if ead 100% did the translations himself because he's still using their hacking tools to do it, might as well just keep their better translations too. If not, at least get a better translator. EVERYONE is shitting on this new translator, while just about everyone outside of the segashire bluesky and discord hugboxes are praising ead for doing what Cyber would not for 12 years.
>>11352525In the end, everyone is a loser.
>>11352579Everyone knows that, god I hate these peopleThis is why only the end product matters, fuck how the cake is made, it’s all a bunch of garbage
Apparently according to that "interview" more like hit piece, ead himself actually knows Japanese so I don't get he's not doing any kind of fucking editing at least. Come on bro, a fucking machine is better, MTL!
>>11352525Holy ESL
There's a game I wish there was an english patch for and no one is doing it, I wonder what would happen if I did the hacking then just left it on github for anyone who actually knows japanese to use
It's 2024 and if you want to play a Japanese game your choices are:>A seamonkey that doesn't speak either the source or target language>google-kun>a terminally Californian/twitter using American1 and 2 are really the same choice 90% of the time anyways but how is there 8 billion faggots on this planet and no one to do this shit? The kicker is I'm totally convinced that Atlus would have remade this game and localized it if they had the goddamn source code.>>11352695Option 2.
>>11352695Nice code you got there, friend.Would be a shame if something happened to it.
>>11352695Depends on the game it's super obscure I doubt anyone would even if you left behind extremely comprehensive hacking tools
>>11352695At least one game translation in the last 5 or so years was completed due to this exact thing iirc.
>>11352704>The kicker is I'm totally convinced that Atlus would have remade this game and localized it if they had the goddamn source code.From what i heard they were try to translate the psp version but Snoy was still in their anti 2D phase and didn't want it to happen, so they just gave up
>>11351892For context the recommended study hours for N5 for a huwaito boi who doesn't already know kanji is 325-600 and N5 is like the reading level of a 2nd grader so you'll be able to play such complex hidden gems as Pokemon and Dragon Quest. (and the average pass rate for N5 for people not living in Japan is like 50%)
>current patch softlocks in the cutscene after the first dragon fight (~2 hours in)Fucking KEK
>>11352526The money he gets is used to pay people contributing to the work, do you make little fanfics about everyone who does this stuff?
>>11352783
>>11352767That's intended, it's a demo. Check back later for another demo with a new and improved script!
>>11348619Also dont forget this gem 65% for over a decade.
>>11352726For context, the average (which includes a large proportion of people who waste time) free leasure time after everything is said and done is 1750+ hours of free time in the US, not counting geriatrics. This is generally higher in other western countries too.Even the most well-adjusted individual in the world has plenty of time and you have to keep in mind that this is largely a thing for maladjusted unemployed people who spare time on personal hygiene and social contact (though they might lose it on sleep). Time is really not an issue, it's just that they are very hard to motivate.
>putting out shit translations out of spiteI'll just stick to playing it in japanese using the camera in google translate is actually pretty reliable these dayscan even translate text on a crt
>>11353585The saturn is so kinoShame the western release was so half assed
>>11353585You could also just use retroarch and push a button
>>11353554Pure statistical sophistry. All you've done is emphasize the difference between having a hobby playing video games and your hobby now being learning Japanese. You won't even larp you've done it you just don't want to hear anyone complain about your bing wahoos.
>>11353729You can do multiple things with your free time, you don't have to spend all your time learning a language, jerking off or playing videogames. You can do all of them.Also how does pointing out you have plenty of time to do so on a post about how long it takes to get a basic cert for a language have anything to do with not wanting to hear people complain about videogames? That's some strange pre-emptive defensiveness.
>>11353601live translation doesnt work on retroarch android yet :(
>>11353846It doesn't? Damn
>>11352767Cyber warned you. Lol.
>>11352726600 hours through how many days/weeks/years?You can't even spare 2-4 hours a week? If you don't want to learn then fine, say that, but don't make stupid nonsense excuses.
>>11353585There's apparently a script translation or two online too, probably on gamefaqs.
can someone explain to me what is it with internet personalities and power tripping? i recall some dude did a translation on game i cant remember the name of , anyway he took liberties with his approach so he had to make a post on rhdn clearing out his stance on the matter, Im paraphrasing here though so keep that in mind :"my work isnt for purist or blm activists" it got pruned prettry quicklywhat is wrong with these people?you find similar situation with sites like gamefaq and shit
>>11354120this has been happening because lefits have been power tripping for years now. And they always finds themselves in positions of power. In a different time, with a different political climate that doesn't back them up, this would be a non-issue. You would just release your hack and that was the end of it.I myself have been going through this sort of thing, and I still don't give a shit. It's laughable, really. Like someone else said on this thread, the majority just wants to play some games, and I'm glad I can confirm that firsthand.
>>11354120autism and narcissism are linked
>>11354120>the type of people that video games attract i.e. escapism>the type of people that enjoy attention i.e. you can enjoy this game because i ''''''''translated''''''''' it, kiss my feet or else i wont translate anymore
>>11354120Good old classic power tripping, you can't really get away from it no matter what>if you're a translator/hacker you either step in line or get ostracized>If you're someone who dares to have a different opinion than the rest you're a weirdo right-winger (even if you're not even American and don't believe in politics)
>>11354152>>11354173>pin the blame on the left>post said the translator was against BLMObsessed
>>11354203>Retard who can't read
>>11353601Hope they can somehow fix the issue with boxes overlaying each other. You can get really weird translations sometimes
>original team got cucked by new guys>new guys cucked themselves>fans cucked in generalIt's over...
>Simps for the original duo taking jabs at the new duo as a last resort after total exposure and complete defeatlame
>>11354039600 hours at 2 hours a week would take 6 years dumbass. Which is time you should probably spend learning elementary school math.>>11353841Once again coming from someone who spends all his time being a condescending jackass on 4chan instead of acquiring some basic reasoning skills. The original premise of "hurr you only play Japanese games why u no Japanese" is fucking retarded to begin with unless those games are all visual novels, how much fucking Japanese do you think someone needs to know to enjoy Mario Brothers and Street Fighter? Even the most grotesque modern JRPG movie games are like 50% language relevant at most, the idea someone should spend 1500 hours learning Japanese so they can understand the 2 hours of reading in Princess Crown and not bother your autism by posting things you don't care about but still go into threads to complain about on the internet is fucking absurd. If all you do is read Japanese books all day sure you should probably learn the fugging language, but because you happen to enjoy video games that are in minority about text or dialogue and in overwhelmingly majority translated in this day and age is an absurd demand that can only come from mentailly ill fuckheads.
lol what a fucking shitshow
>>11354825Keep seething and making excuses, monolingual. And don’t forget to tip the translator.
>>11354825Literally nowhere am I condescending or a jackass unless my description of people who get very into whining about this stuff was something that hit a bit too close to home? If so get over yourself or improve.Where did I say you should learn Japanese for 1 game or even learn Japanese at all? I specifically said it can be applied in other ways as well. Why do you even think I'm bothered by anything anyone is posting in this thread? If anything, you seem bothered by things that aren't even posted. The reasoning skills and mentally ill bit just seems more and more like projection the further I read, I hope you are pretending.
This thread is getting sad, both of you should kill yourselves
>>11354883>actually I didn't read the thread I'm just a grandstanding faggotgood 4 u
>>11354889t. grandstanding faggot who can't read. Not everyone is your bogeyman.
Your boyfriend still can't translate games
How come non-English translation groups never seem to suffer from endless drama like the English groups do?
>>11354825You either missed the point on purpose or you're just that stupid. The point is to invest any amount of time on a regular basis and over a long period of time you'll develop some competency. A single grammar point can be learned in about an hour. You seem to actually be a retard though so it's probably impossible for you.
>>11354964I missed your "point" because it has nothing to do with the conversation, your post was borderline incomprehensible in general, and I can't read your autistic thoughts you stupid ESL retard.
Why don't you whiny retards complaining about the translation drama and faggotry just learn Japanese? Then you would never have to deal with it again. Hell, just play the game without any ability to read at all. A translation is just some faggot's "interpretation" of the text. Why would you give a shit about that?
>>11354953do you know that they don't?
>>11355050Okay ead
>>11354953that's miyaku? wow
>>11355052As of late I see Portuguese/Spanish/French fan translations come out earlier than English ones
>>11355050yea just ignore the problem lmao
>>11355119It isn't igonring the problem, retard. It's solving the fucking problem. The problem is that you can't understand the contents of the game because you are unable to read the text since you don't know the language. Learning the language literally solves all of your problems, and you can do it all by yourself, without relying on other faggots to do things for you.I'm sure your solution of just sitting and twiddling your thumbs while bitching on 4chan is a lot better, though. Good luck with that.
>hit enemy one singular time>they go flying away halfway across the arena (human)>they switch partners (goblins)>they break into a million pieces (slime)>they hover 1 cm off the ground and you have to jump to hit them down (dragon)>they counter and gain 5+ seconds of i-framesEvery thing possible to prevent you from getting two consecutive hits. This game's combat is shit even by Vanillaware's already bad standards.
>>11355050>A translation is just some faggot's "interpretation" of the textthis is some next level 0 education
>>11354120This has been a thing since the dawn of internet time. Forum moderators in the early 00s were notorious for this, merciless snarky powertripping cunts. It's a constant of the universe like energy and the speed of light.
>>11354120It isn't just on the Internet. If you leave your house, you will see this literally everywhere. Any time someone has any form of authority over others, the probability is extremely close to 100% that they become insufferable pricks.If you want to check some places for this in real life, try visiting:Any place that has security guardsA police station or any place that has police officersAny corporate workplace with a clear hierarchyA courtroom which has security guards, police, and a judge all in one placeThere is a famous study that was done on this called the Stanford Prison Experiment. Even the researchers performing the experiment got sucked in, and took to their roles at the top of the hierarchy as the prison wardens. It's a natural thing for humans, and perhaps to some extent even all social mammals.
>>11355050This is a /v/ tier retarded post. Go back.
>>11347454>good thing they censored itIts not.
>>11354997>>11354902>you can take some time to learn it bit-by-bit >noooo you are forcing me to replace my entire hobby to learn jap for 1 game to read MarioHis post was far more relevant to that specific conversation than your irrelevant ramblings and grievances about learning Japanese and the srawmen that followed, but we've already established your penchant for projection and unsurprisingly last wordtism as well
>>11347969learning japanese doesnt take hours, it takes DECADES!you need to be learning from at least 8-10 years old if you want to have a shot to properly read a japanese game or novel. if you just plan to start from after that, you arent gonna make it.i know i cant because im 38 years old now.
>>11355976that's because you're retarded
This whole "community" code of honor or whatever nonsense in fan projects (both games and manga or whatever else) seems so retarded to me, imagine subjecting yourself to arbitrary rules and not just translating whatever the fuck you want whenever the fuck you want.>B-b-but my backlash! M-m-muh deplatforming! B-b-black listing!Do it under an Anonymous name, use throwaway accounts, post it on github, make your own page or even just drop a link here in 4chan, the end user doesn't give a shit about any of the drama, as long as the end product is good it'll spread by itself on its own merits regardless of the wishes of the """community""". It's the fucking internet, there's so many ways you could get away with something like this, but little bitches scared of some literal nobodies getting angry at them and getting shunned like any of it was permanent or had RL consequences.
>>11356028>some literal nobodies getting angry at them and getting shunned like any of it was permanent or had RL consequences.We live in times when loonies like these would murder or otherwise harm you over a FUCKING ROM HACK once they would know where you live. These "people" belong in asylum.
>>11356035And just how the fuck would they know that if you make a burner account or whatever the fuck with 0 or fake personal info? Are they gonna trace your IP with a GUI in Visual Basic? lol
>>11355976>you need to be learning from at least 8-10 years old if you want to have a shot to properly read a japanese game or novel. if you just plan to start from after that, you arent gonna make it.Nice cope, but it really doesn't matter -when- you start. There are certain advantages to starting earlier, and advantages to starting later (and disadvantages that come on either side as well). The thing you can never escape is the sheer amount of time you must spend with a language in order to learn it. This is coincidentally the thing people don't actually want to do - engage with the language for long periods of time. Reading and listening for hundreds and thousands of hours is the one and only thing that gets you good.Take any of these translators, sit them down in front of an episode of Doraemon, and I guarantee 99% of them will simply not survive. They do a bare minimum of studying to pass some test (if even that) and proceed to use their flawed and incomplete understanding to "translate" (term used loosely) text from Japanese to English.On top of the attention whoring/clout culture that is cancerous to romhacking and translation communities, the more devastating and pressing issue is the SKILL ISSUE, where no one who's involved with this shit can just sit down and enjoy a game, book, film, show, anime, whatever - they're simply not capable.Never ask what N-Level someone is, because such certs are meaningless and worthless. Ask to see their Bookmeter page, or about the anime they recently watched raw in Japanese.
Fucking kek, this is the kind of drama I relish to see. Throwing a shitfit over an UNAUTHORIZED FAN TRANSLATION of a game you have absolutely no rights over is simultaneously funny and pathetic. It'd be different if this was, say, someone taking incomplete code of a game you're making and releasing it in a semi-playable manner without your consent (though if it was GPL open source, you can get fucked regardless, though one COULD argue it's still kinda disrespectful, but whatever), but this ain't that. These fuckers don't have a leg to stand on, and I for one am glad someone gave the middle finger to this stupid "dibs" system at last.
>>11356041>And just how the fuck would they know thatThis is the precise reason why one should publish these things anonymously, rather than brag about it on the internet. All these online lefty psychos could do fuck all about it, and all the could do, is to seethe, cope and dilate.
>>11355976>muh neuroplasticityi dont know why people keep bringing this up, its been thoroughly debunkedif your brain were truly calcified, you wouldnt even be able to have conversations because receiving information would just bounce off your crusted-over brain, actually you'd probably be braindead
>when you come to the thread late and repeat the same conversations from the start with yourself
Crazy how half the posts in this thread are by the same guy who doesn't capitalize anything. Seek help.
>>11356064>someone gave the middle finger to this stupid "dibs" system at lastUnfortunately, the guy seems to have given up on using their translation and instead will be using a new one from a literal tranny who barely knows Japanese. See >>11351617I guess this game will never be properly translated
>>11356028>Do it under an Anonymous name, use throwaway accountsUsually this takes a group of people, not a single individual, and said group needs to have specific skills that are generally acquired from being in such groups for a while. Doing it completely anonymously out of nowhere is hard unless the entire group intentionally starts out that way and nobody betrays anyone.
>>11355976Stop saying you can't or it takes too long and just fucking do it. If a fucking leaf can do it, so can you.https://youtu.be/U5994yjxPQ0
>>11347949I hope someone does this with the PSP version of Devil Summoner, I've already beaten the game but a full script has existed for like 12 years and somehow nobody can bother to insert it.
>>11354953very few jews speak Korean, very few jews in korea
Why is there someone running damage control for cyberfaggot everywhere you check regarding this translation?
>>11356707You like this? >>11351617Are you a brown retard?
>>11348287>Should I learn a language to appreciate great works of art that rank among the best ever created? Perhaps communicate with a friend that speaks the language? Or maybe to visit or move to a country whose native language is my tl? >Nah I'm going to play mediocre Saturn games in Japaneselol
>>11356837People have learned entire languages for less reasons
>>11349604WITNESS ME SEMPAI!!
The best part of this is the amount of people that went "finally I've been waiting a decade" and then never play up to the point of the game crash.
>>11356941I am waiting because even the dev who released this version said it's in a beta and that he's going to do more work on it, the fact that it crashes on the current version is no secret.
>>11357151The dev that put this out hasn't said anything about a crash outside of the issue tab 2 days after dropping. All he has in the readme is a vague "needs playtesting for bugs", I doubt he tested more than five minutes before putting it out and didn't even know where the first crash would be.
>>11357151the "dev" that put this out did none of the work himself, why do you think he can make this good?
>>11357478Check the SegaXtreme thread, or even the repo, he did do some work, he didn't just take Cyber's code and release it in the exact state it was in. Or do you want to still kiss the ass of the person who blueballed people for 12 years and then ghosted everyone, only reappearing to bitch that someone else encroached on his turf?The last release was barely a week ago, and people kissing Cyber's butt already want to act like this patch that ead himself said was an early beta is the final release that won't have any changes or fixes made. Go back to your Discord and Bluesky hugbox.
>>11357513the only work done in the segaxtreme thread is other people telling him how to fix the font lmaomeanwhile:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W1gxYjpc9Qc
>>11357519Again, last release was barely a week ago and it's been the third release since.And your video is useless if they are never going to release it, see >>11349470 where I called it that you think going "He he he, I am going to release a video and blow these guys out of the water!" means anything.Like I said, go back to your discord hugbox. Nobody gives a shit how much better Cyber's version is if he is never going to release it. After more than 12 years promises of "I am still working on it" mean less than nothing if nothing from that work has been publicly released. You want to "own" ead? Release something playable, not a useless video.
>>11357530sister, you ARE playing cyber's release, just years old and with a fucked up ESL trannylation and fontkeep crying about muh pedocord though
>>11357535You are a fucking idiot. Everyone knows it's a fork of Cyber's old version, that's where all this drama came from. But if you stopped kissing Cyber's ass for two seconds you would notice I said that posting a video of his current versions means jack shit if his attitude after stringing people along for over 12 years (and having ghosted them for over two years) is to still claim "when it's done" when asked about when the patch will be finished. His thread on RDHN is even still locked.He can be on version 99999.0 for all I care, it might as well be version 0 if he still has no plans to release jack.Also, the current patch still has Cyber's translation, the re-translation isn't even implemented yet, in fact, that translator wasn't even hired until AFTER Cyber started bitching about it. So no, people are not playing the ESL re-translated script, which very well may get ditched from the backlash. In your attempt to kiss ass you overlooked that... or knew it but was purposely lying to try to attack ead.Someone suddenly appeared to kiss Cyber's ass and attack ead shortly before a video showing Cyber's version which he still has no plans to release gets posted, yeah, totally not a coincidence. Yet again, go back to your hugbox. Release shit or nobody cares how much you whine or post to YouTube.
