If only I could go back and make Nintendo package their system with these controllers instead. n64 was flawed in many many ways but that 1st generation 3D graphics were a magical time nonetheless. Yet despite an awesome 6 button face and the 2 button trigger and a wonderfully granular control stick, the n64's "Trident" was just a mistake.It could have so easily been this piece of art.Post anything you want about controllers (retro) ITT.
>>11350038You simply chose the wrong system. Come home white man
>>11350038Nah theres nothing wrong with it.
>>11350038>and a wonderfully granular control stickso you want them to replace it with some junk stick?
Jesus are people really still pretending to be mystified by the n64 controller
I respect the retrofighters guys for making some good money but their controllers are truly the most consistent at being fugly
Another day, another small child who doesn’t understand the N64 joystick. You can’t play N64 games properly with a Gamecube stick, no modern stick is as precise as an N64 stick. It’s the reason why 3d platformers were at their peak, and the genre never recovered.
>>11350038You can't get "twin stick" controls on that for games like Duke 3D
That looks mega gay. Nothing beats that z trigger grip feel when shooting. Seriously, there is nothing wrong with the original controller, it doesn’t need fixing or updating
The controller is wonderful. Millions of dollars of research went into designing and creating the N64 controller and the best thing is the precise feel of its stick that even modern cookie cutter controllers can't manage. Dreamcast controller is good also - best for driving games and beat em ups, not quite perfect for some genres somehow, but still it's not going to make or break the experience.
>>11350038What is the point of reforming the controller if you don't add a second analog stick? I don't see how this is an improvement on the original.
>>11350119>beat em upsfighting games* including beat em ups.
>>11350115You just want to jerk someone off so badly don't you. That's why you brought up the gay aspect out of nowhere, and subconsciously enjoy grabbing the n64 controllers long black middle as you finger around the back and thumb the top
>>11350054Sega had the best d-pad and chose to abandon it. Shame.
>>11350126I guess you had to be there zoomer. Everything knows gay means uncool/lame.
>>11350119I made a point to praise the feel of the stick in my post for a reason. They just shouldn't have gone for the trident design>>11350054>>11350128both pretty gud
>>11350087there were games that did c button movement and control stick aiming, ie. "twin stick" but without weird hand rearrangement
>>11350143I'm only barely a zoomer. I grew up with you people posting terrible things on /b/. Probably was mostly genx actually. Some friends had a n64 at birth and I always thought it was for weirdos. I started with the small psone which looking back is maybe the real reason sony won. No weird gimmick controller, no missing buttons, a very average dpad, adding 2 analog sticks, no rumble pack bulk. Its the basic bitch controller that nintendo finally copied and gave up trying to be quirky with the wii u pro controller.
>I’m done with Mario Party and Smash Bros, I’m ready to settle down and play some Pokemon SnapI will defend the trident to the death but this shit was retarded. They really needed to use lubricant.
>>11350171Enjoy your unlubed dildo controller nintendrone
>>11350160You make me ashamed to be a zoomer. You have zero self awareness much less any knowledge of history
>>11350171You are the retard for not using lubricant. Imagine blaming the manufacturer when you fail to properly maintain your equipment.
>>11350186>Refutes nothingYou should be a shamed to be a zoomer regardless. I'm in the middle spot, so idgaf you're most likely younger than me, I remember how awkward it was, and how normal a ps1 controller felt. The snes is before our time obv so as a reference for children at the time the ps1 controller was what a controller was. We all thought so at school and my parents wouldn't let me get a fucking heavily discounted dreamcast
>>11350171>the n64 analog stick is the best one ever!Snort it
>>11350184>>11350193>>11350201(you)
>>11350198>ps1I meant to say ps2 controller* but for us broke suburbanites in the 2000's it was the psone controller
>>11350198I'm not sure why you even went on this nonsequitur. Are you actually trying to console war or something right now. I'm not sure why you think its appropriate to put your precise generational identity out there. I'm not sure how you can think the ps1 revision is the cause of why Sony "won". That's a bit carriage in front of the1 horse in all honesty. I'm not sure why you've resorted to bizarre insults. The fuck am I even meant to refute. You basically just knee jerked against that guy.
>dude, I wish the d-pad was in a less comfortable place, so that Kirby 64 feels worse to playThere's literally nothing wrong with the N64 controller. Well, apart from wear and tear on the stick, but the shape of the thing is literally fine.
>>11350210I don't find it fits well in adult hands but I could probably adjust to it if I ever played it (I do not.)
>>11350207You're the one that brought it up again nigger. The dualshock was unchanged for 4 generations anon. That's all I'll say to whatever the fuck you just posted.
>>11350147Yeah, like the Turok trilogy, GoldenEye, Perfect Dark... It wasn't exactly rare.
>>11350213The N64 controller is huge. It makes dual shock and related look like they're for tiny japanese girls. I really would love to know how you came to say something like that. An anonymous person sitting at home, never held a N64 controller in their lives, unless you mean that it's too big for your hands?
>>11350221You're very defensive over this, I don't play n64 because I already played it enough as a kid. Every time I held the controller since it is too cramped when using the primary grip position.
It works fine. You're either focusing on the middle for 3D games or the left side for 2D or less-analog-focused games. It's cumbersome from a zoomer's perspective but got the job done. Now stop making these threads every week.
>>11350221Idk how anyone can say the n64 controller is too small when the ps1 controller is made for the tiniest toddler hands known to man. If you like ps1, do yourself a favor and grab a dual analog. Comfiest ps1 controller by far.That, or get a wireless adapter so you can use a ps5 controller.
>>11350217Weird pride thing on Sony's part, where they can't admit Xbox has the better controller layout.
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>>11350245Xbawks and ps kneel to wii u chads. But even the wii u kneels to the steam deck. Having the analog sticks/buttons more side by side than over/under just makes the most sense.
The N64 controller is iconic and its design is solid, if underutilized. The only flaw was the joystick loosening over time but it could have easily been fixed with proper lubrication or different materials.If I had a time machine I'd go back and gaslight Sony and Sega into thinking the trident shape is the future so that we could get Trident shaped PS1 and Dreamcast controllers.
>trident shape is bad>six button face is good>six button face is bad>control stick is good>control stick is bad>trident shape is gooduhhh I don't know what to think anymore
>>11350249>the n64 controller is too small>BUT YOU’RE 600lbs IF YOU THINK THE PS1 CONTROLLER IS TOO SMALLwhich of these two do you think is smaller
>>11350245The better layout with 4 different remakes not including the dc. Iconic and superior doesn't need to change
>>11350054It’s good in many ways but that SNES-tier button layout when EVERYONE was adding more inputs. Insane.
>>11350272It's a good, if unorthodox controller, and people seethe about it because it makes them feel stupid.
>>11350054The triggers are WAY too low on this thing
>>11350240>Idk how anyone can say the n64 controller is too smallSame, but nobody was saying this.
>>11350276Not op, but sony controllers were made for beautiful fit people who enjoy video games.This was back before America was filled with obsessed blobs of matter. The duke controller was created with this change in America in mind. Nintendo just flat out had no idea what to do for the 3d era and placed controls everywhere the gamecube controller is their vision perfected but still not great
>>11350072The N64 had an awful stick that would grind down and then you'd have to smash it so hard with your thumb that it basically made games unplayable and you'd have sores on your thumb
>>11350038We didn't know what we didn't know, the N64 pad was revolutionary and dual analogue just wasn't a standard at the time. It's easy to say with revisionism in mind, but it was a controller of it's time as we branched out into 3D.
>>11350073I think some people were really put off by the N64 controller that they didnt even bother getting a N64. I was the same with OG Xbox, the first bulky controller sucked ass. I remember playing at a kiosk and not liking the original controller.
>>11350398Mario Party games were joystick killers. Its the only game I remember getting thumb blisters from playing it.
>>11350038Ya but then they would also need to release more games. It still didn't have that many other than the main ones that ps1 already hadMk, gauntlet, quake, road rash, ridger racer, etcIf it had 15 more great originals and that controller? Ya maybe
>>11350413I still have not once in my life wanted two analog sticks. I don't mind having them, but I'm fine with a d-pad and a stick, or WASD and a mouse, or something else like that. Do I really need to be able to tiptoe or trot or sprint in an FPS? No I do not. Just the sprint is enough.
My never-lubricated N64 controllers still work and feel fine, but a lot of people in this thread are saying they should be broken. Should I break them to fit in?? I don't know what I'm doing wrong. I'm really playing wrong. I'm sorry. I'll try to have less fun, or at least different fun, and break my stuff better like I'm meant to
>>11350460I'm the same kind of person who never breaks their shit. But spinning the guy in Mario 64 or in Mario party, you just know that shit grinds it all down in there. I remember encountering fucked up n64 sticks at birthday parties.
>>11350328Controllers back then were made for children and Japanese manlets.
>>11350460>no, I don’t own Mario Party. Why do you ask?Open up your controller and show us how much plastic dust is in there
>>11350038Sorry for hijacking your thread, but I recently ordered the Analogue 3D. Should I get this, or the 8bitdo controllers they want us to get?Are any of these compatible with the N64 transfer pak?
>>11350523>N64 transfer pakThat thing only gets used by 2 games. I'd just keep an original controller for those games.
>>11350523Neither, get a real controller. Nothing replaces the original stick, it's critical for accurate control in games.
>>11350240>have a ps1 analog controller, a green transparent shell; lost my ps2 dualshock ages ago>got a raphnet adapter thinking it would handle pressure sensitive buttons and guitar hero controllers well>it only does the latteri guess i have something to use on it worthwhile at least...
>>11350523AFAIK only original controllers work with the n64 transfer pack, but also the transfer pack only matters to like, 2 games.In the end nothing is perfect. As much as I like the brawler retro fighters n64 controllers their z buttons are a little weird. But I think they're the best combination of quality, function, and comfort and I'd take one over an original controller for my all-day n64 gaming sessions for sure.
>>11350128underappreciated gem
>>11350038I'm a fan of the brawler. I bought two so player 2 doesn't feel cheated. There are some games that don't work well with it.>f zeroYou can turn more than you are intended which causes loss of control>excite bikeSame issue as f zero>goldeneyeI works well enough with standard controls but is vasitly inferior to the solitare(?) control schemeSo far other than those, most games might take some getting used to but are greatly improved
>>11350240I had no idea the dualanalog was bigger, I might have to pick one up.
>>11350730The fact they didn't handle stick range properly is one hell of a bad sign. That's emulator-tier incompetence.
>>113500543d games are really made for two sticks
>>11350743I wouldn't cry about it as if the sky is falling, but yes it would be nice if they could replicate a stick as good as the official one but without it's abysmal durability
>>11350936The Switch Online N64 controller is accurate, and lubricated. So the technology is clearly there in the modern day. No clue how much longer it'd last vs an original controller under Mario Party conditions, however. I'd expect the plastic quality to be better at very least.
>>11350947The best looking replacement sticks I've seen have been ones with metal gears
>>11350953Yeah, I've seen the metal cup type made for smash players, but I can't justify the cost for a console I'm not that into. I've got a controller with a decent analogue stick at the moment.
>>11350730How good is excitebike 64? Thinking about picking it up
Nintendofangirls on deathwatch with their anal toy controllers, kek.>Most precise stick in gaming history>For playing 15hz games
>>11350983In my opinion it's one of the all time best motocross games only nearly beaten out by MXvsATV reflex, and that only becuuse of mods.
>>11350115>pull trigger with left hand>viewmodel is right-handed
>>11351001See>>11350087
>>11351003>can't reach A and B
>>11350119Millions of dollars of research and they came up with an analog stick that carves itself into extinction.
>>11351007OF ALL TIME
>>11350460I think this is not uncommon, and conversely I also remember seeing potentiometer-based sticks that were broken after a few years.
>>11351006Try it and you'll be surprised. Opening doors and switching weapons is no problem in GE
>>11350038Those third-party sticks are way too sensitive. Makes aiming a bitch.
>>11350428People liked the N64 controller, stop talking out of your ass.
>>11350251Wii U pro is nice for dual analogue games, but feels kind of weird for everything else.
>>11351387Not me.
>>11351387Yeah that's why Nintendo is still using the same controller layout. Get fucked.
>>11350087Most underrated and misunderstood feature of the original N64 controller. This is how chads play FPSs on that console. >>11351006It's much easier than you think. You'll want to switch positions for a second if you're setting up a laptop gun sentry in Perfect Dark though.
>>11351960>Most underrated and misunderstood feature of the original N64 controller. This is how chads play FPSs on that console.or instead of the d-pad you just use the c-buttons and don't have to switch grips and people can actually have some muscle memory and easy access to extra buttons
>>11352129Looking with my left thumb never felt intuitive after getting used to mouse look with my right hand - only downside with stretching to hit the c-buttons
>>11350038>, the n64's "Trident" was just a mistake.nothing wrong with it. maybe if your hands weren't the size of inflated balloons with hotdog fingers you would have had no problems with it.>>11350398i still have all my controllers from 1997 and they work perfectly. and lord forbid that if they ever did fail i can get a replacement stick for a few dollars.>>11350428>I think some people were really put off by the N64 controller that they didnt even bother getting a N64>proceeds to sell 32 million systemsyou delusional liars on this board are hilarious
>>11350115This. Maybe I'm just a 90's kid but I loved the N64 controller, so fucking comfy and natural to hold, unlike the weird angle psx or the baby hands Xbox controller they released in the UK. Nintendo only dropped the ball with GameCube controller which was as much disappointing babyish garbage as the system itself.
>>11352129I started playing console shooters in 6th gen, so aiming with my left thumb and moving with my right fucks with my muscle memory in FPSs. Plus, doesn't an actual d-pad feel a lot better than a set of four buttons for movement?
>>11351761It would be foolish not to release a controller with a second stick at this point. That's just the reality. Games are made with the presumption that every controller has two sticks.If you're going to play N64 games though, the N64 controller is pretty much the way to do it. It's what the games were designed around. It feels right.
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>>11355165The c buttons are actually pretty nice for moving but it's aiming with the left thumb that will fuck with most people, unless you're some crusty ancient fag who spent his formative years playing wolfenstein without a mouse, but even then wouldn't you have used the arrow keys with your right hand? I dunno but if you've been playing games for the last 30 years it's going to feel bad.
>>11353853>Natural to hold
