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It's still pretty absurd just how much extra content is crammed into this one romhack. Especially the music.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bjhAS5KRCCQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pj43daqqgZY
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>>11377238
fixed
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I love Smash 64, but I'm not a fan of the sequels, so I was pretty glad they made a sort of updated version of the game. I still favor vanilla, however the romhack is pure bliss. Anyway, for anyone curious, here's the ready-to-play latest version of the game: https://files.catbox.moe/evarx2.7z
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>>11377238
I genuinely wanted to like this hack. But the shitty character choices really made this hack mediocre for me. It's not the Goemon characters I'm talking about.
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>>11377238
Do you unlock the new characters? What content is there for someone who can't play it multiplayer locally?
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Something, something, Dark Samus, Lucas, Mementos, Marina's boobers, Conker, Sonic.
ok, I think that's it, now talk about something else.

Did they ever support c-stick attacks?
All I wanted was to be able to do aerials and tilts with the c-stick.
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>>11377238
>Slippy is a boss
That so heckin' random LOL
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>>11377256
fpbp
the whole starfox cast being represented shows that the maintainers suffer from melee comp brainrot
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>>11377276
Thanks anon, been meaning to check out the newest version.
>>11377295
There's a bunch of new bosses and stages/characters to play with. Definitely enough to get some enjoyment out of if you haven't checked it out yet.
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Nice game, but TOO much pandering to tourneyfags. Where's my chill Super Smash Bros? Why does the AI needs to behave like a tournament player? "Normal" AI is stronger than the hardest in vanilla. Pretty pointless, because, if I was a tourneyfag, I'd be playing Melee instead.

Anyway, here's a tip: there's an option called "improved AI", enabled by default. Turn that shit off. However, it doesn't seem to matter in the remix 1P modes. Also, items are disabled BY DEFAULT (God bless tourneyfags!). You need to enable them in the "item switch" option. Every. Fucking. Single. Time. You should be able to turn them on once and it'd be saved, like everything else.

End of rant.
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>>11377256
unironically better. if you're padding, then less is more.
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>>11377401
>so mindbroken by melee that even including other starfox characters that aren't in any smash game, is "melee comp brainrot"
meds, now
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11377427
>MUH TOURNEYFAGS MUH TOURNEYFAGS
>can't even beat the super predictable and easily-edgeguardable AI
You need to be 18 to use this website.
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>>11377450
You don't play these games. Leave.
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>>11377295
>What content is there for someone who can't play it multiplayer locally?
A lot.

>>11377328
yes, there's a function under the character select settings, "Map D-pad", that lets you effectively turn a 2nd analog stick into a tilt / aerial stick.
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>>11377328
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>>11377452
>into hyper-competitive, internet zoomer-lingo
>"You need to be 18 to use this website"
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>>11377504
(You)
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>>11377238
Cut: jiggly puff, Dr mario, metal Mario, metal Luigi, dark Samus, Falco, wolf, Slippy, peppy, Lucas, super sonic.

Add: Rayman, Crash Bandicoot, Chrono, Glover, Megaman X, Zero, Ryu Hayabusa, Akuma, Sub Zero, hitmonchan, machamp, Alucard
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>FOUR star fox characters
>Dark Samus
>No Peach or Zelda, but let's add Marina
>Majora Link but no Johto Pokemon
>Conker but no DIDDY KONG?!?
What were they THINKING????
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>>11377531
>What were they THINKING????
"let's make a fun romhack where we add 64-era characters (for the most part) within the scope of limited resources and people working for free in their spare time"

that's what

Dark Samus was only added because it was an easy model-swap from regular Samus. Same with Lucas, he was an easy copy from Ness. Peppy is also an easy copy from Fox, and Slippy was a development character that was used as the basis for Wario, but then later on they finished him and added him back into the main game.
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>>11377531
conker is much more interesting addition than diddy Kong you unoriginal faggot.
johto Pokémon suck
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>>11377238
not retro
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>>11377457
>>11377458
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>>11377564
>a romhack of a 1999 game is not retro
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>>11377571
Yeah that was my response too. Being able to play smash 64 with a tilt/aerial stick feels so much better. It lets you do shit like plat drop up-airs and pivot tilts with ease.
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>>11377603
when was the romhack made, anon?
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>>11377256
forgot to delete dr mario
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>>11377328
It's an N64 game
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Why ruin a perfectly good rom hack with anachronisms?
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how many times has this shit been shilled here by now
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>>11378045
shit anon, you better start hunting down anyone who posts romhacks for retro games because "REEE THOSE ROM HACKS ARE NOT RETRO"
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>>11378246
>"shilling"
>a free romhack
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>>11378153
That you can play with modern controllers.
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>>11378297
what year was the romhack made, anon?
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Is there an update to the mod that adds cloud, ryu, and ken? Still so many placeholders
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>>11378045
Homebrew has no cut off date.
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>>11379116
it should though, I support people pushing back against that amendment
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>>11379121
Ok.
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>>11377238
>Dark Samus
>GBA Lucas
>Sonic
Might as well throw in Splatoon, Minecraft Steve, Wii Fit trainer, and Sora if consistency doesn't matter at all.
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>>11379134
seethe
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>>11379146
Am I wrong?
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>>11379159
No. But that's nu smash, just a mugen-like slapfest.
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>>11377427
I noticed that right off the bat. I can clear hard pretty easily normally and even very hard. In Remix, I don't think I've been able to even finish on hard without continuing. Giga Bowser especially is fucking brutal, and I lucked out one run by having him kill himself.

All the new modes are great though. Being able to do break the targets on everyone's stages with any character is a neat touch.
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>>11379121
Nigger
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>Banjo
>Conker
>Dedede
>proper Wario Land-themed Wario
>Marina
>even fucking Goemon and Ebisumaru
>Peppy and Slippy, marking the first time where ALL of the Starfox crew are playable

>spergs still cry and bitch about it because Dark Samus and GBA-design Lucas
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If the entire cast of Iggy's Reckin' Balls isn't in there then I don't know why anybody would EVEN bother with this
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>>11379116
what year was the romhack made, anon?
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Why isn't Ryu Hayabusa ever in smash? He's a classic NES character and Nintendo and team ninja HAVE collab'ed in the past

Is it because they don't want bub boobied Ayane and Rachel trophies?
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Any other mods for this besides the cloud/ryu/ken one?
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>>11380303
I know someone made a Game & Watch mod but it's not public yet
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>>11377256
why do people on this board hate extra characters? you know you can play older versions of the hack without them or just not select them, right?
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>>11381128
I think those people are dumb, but to play double's advocate, they probably feel that it was time wasted that could have been spent developing character they like.
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>>11381128
some characters added are not accurate to the time period of n64.
also sometimes more isn't better. we don't need 3+ fox clones
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>>11377564
>>11380108
Quick, Anon! You need to go to the Doom thread and cry not retro at every new map and mod made! Mass report them, you can win this one man crusade!
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>>11381149
Slippy and Peppy not being on the select screen makes me feel like they're more of a "bonus" instead of full-fledged characters. Objectively it's probably overkill, but even as a kid drawing Smash character select screens after Melee, I would include them.
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>>11381052
Hopefully they replaced the bucket with judgement
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>>11377238
Get rid of Dr. Mario, Dark Samus, and Lucas. And while you're at it, add Leif from Thracia 776 since he almost got into Melee over Roy.
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>>11377524
>Add: Chrono
lol
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add

Weegee
Mama Luigi
Gay Luigi
King Koopa
The King
Morshu
IM Meen
Dr. Rabbit
and Pingas Robotnik
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>>11381338
If a literal-who like Ness can be added, so can Chrono.
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>>11381390
isnt the smash men community up in arms over the number of japanese sword guys in their smash game? I dont think chrono would go over well.
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>>11381150
What year was this romhack made, anon?
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>>11381150
making maps for doom is perfectly retro. people were making custom maps in the 90s
romhacks for n64 games are definitely not retro. nobody was doing that shit back then
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>>11381452
Checking the wiki, it's 2019. Now are you gonna go pick a fight with the Doom thread? Some people are working on WADs that'll be released next year.

>>11381458
Using modern sourceports and modern tools to make Doom maps and mods nowadays. I don't think there's anyone that uses the original modding tools. Though to further press your point: Does that mean other ROM hacks aren't retro? Or is it only because tools for modding 64 games weren't developed til the mid to late 2000s?
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someone tell me why they made this dinosaur so damn gay
someone tell him to stop looking at me like I'm some kind of a slut
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>>11381505
>2019
not retro
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>>11379121
nobody asked, faggot
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>>11381512
yossy's yossy
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>>11381419
Robo would be better. Or Ayla
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Remove Falco, replace with Fokka
Remove Lucas, replace with Duster
Remove Metal M&L, replace with Unown Y and Unown E
Add naked General Custer
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>>11377328
Mementos is a valid complaint.
It has quite literally 0 place in the game.
Mother 3 was technically in development for N64
While he wouldn't have made it, Conker was an N64 title
You can even give Dark Samus the benefit of the doubt as "hey, all they could do at the start was clones so cut them some slack"
Mementos fucking sucks. It sucked it Ultimate, and it sucks here.
Persona 5 alone had a shit ton of interesting locations in the real world and in the whatever the fuck the alternate reality was called. Hell, a stage based in Mementos alone could have been cool. Imagine fighting on the Morgana bus as it drives through Mementos with stage hazards like Shadows attacking you. Instead we got basically the calender screen with a generic platform on it.

There was no reason to put it in Remix.
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>>11377238
>Smelee hack
Pass
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>>11377256
You have no balls.
>keep the OG12 (one sole reason anyone is playing this hack)
>keep the officially cut characters
>keep the vets that actually fit with the game

>removed third parties (ignoring Rare)
>removed anomaly clones (should be repurposed already)
>removed smashfag/beytahfag fanfiction
and if i had to go an extra mile, i would replace all OoT characters with their 2D zelda counterparts, revert Dedede to his traditional appearance, removed Doc, and let go of the Rareshit anyways.
But i didn't, it's still better than fucking DBSpic references.
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>>11377401
Fox was officially supposed to get the rest of the cast as costumes and Slippy was originally a separate download patch.
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>>11377453
Speak for yourself fag. Wolf wasn't even playable in Melee.
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>>11377524
You had me but i realized you're also just adding a bunch of default brawler/fgc characters in place of what you're cutting.

Smash stood out because the entire roster wasn't a bunch of Captain Falcon type of characters all over the place.
If you wanted another basic looking fighter, play any real fighting game.
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>>11377531
>FOUR star fox characters
Were all supposed to be in the game+isn't a bunch of samey clones either which is a good trade off.
>Dark Samus
Shouldn't be in the hack at all. They're replacing all the cut date stuff, so im anticipating what they'll do with her.
>No Peach or Zelda, but let's add Marina
Fuck off, this hack isn't actually trying to be Melee 64. There's already a separate hack for that too.
>Majora Link but no Johto Pokemon
most of the relevant gen 2 Pokemon sucked ass, you wanted Togepi faggot?
>Conker but no DIDDY KONG?!?
Donkey Kong Jr. >
>What were they THINKING????
They were thinking of doin' your mom, doin' doin' your mom, doin' doin' your mom.
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>>11377545
>Dark Samus was only added because it was an easy model-swap from regular Samus.
There was plenty of other choices to go with and Doc, Y.Link, and Falco were already being added prior.
>Same with Lucas, he was an easy copy from Ness.
They didn't have to be lazy and copy paste from Brawl.
>Peppy is also an easy copy from Fox, and Slippy was a development character that was used as the basis for Wario, but then later on they finished him and added him back into the main game.
No issues.
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>>11377564
Culture Phenomenon threads are allowed at any time.
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>>11378302
>what is online clout
>implying most fan games aren't start ups for something monetary
Didn't learn from the Icons/Rushdown Revolt drama, i see.
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>>11378498
They're separate mods? Or did someone put them into one single hack?
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>>11379146
>being okay with it
Retarded zoomer
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>>11379589
>proper Wario Land-themed Wario
>cookie cutter Mario moveset
I'm sorry motorcycles and Japanese advertisement mindbroke you, anon.
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>>11380179
No clue, LOL.
It's funny too, Koei Tecmo sucked Nintendo dick for years. Ultimate was the first game to feature any KT content but all they got was an Assist Trophy and pngs.
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>>11381419
No, Crono is a cult hit character, just like Sephiroth and Hero.
In fact, most Square-Enix and other 3rd party characters get off scott-free because of pop culture bias.

Anybody trying to raise heat over sword characters are mostly pissed off at modern Fire Emblem adding more Marth clones and CaC protags. (which is understandable at some parts, but still mostly psychotic autism regardless)
and there was heat for the new Xenoblade characters, because "XB2 bad". Nobody was upset with Shulk and there used to be rosterfags for the other XB protagonists.

That being said, nerds would be all over Crono in Smash 64. Also Dragon Ball's creator just died this year, so rosterfags online will definitely back off with their autism.
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>>11381512
It's the tougue and reproductive system i bet
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>>11383284
you don't know what you're arguing against
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>>11381338
>>11381390
>>11381419
Add The Chronic.
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>>11383364
Ultimate killing trophies fucking sucks, the spirits don’t even have bios to them.
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>>11383408
It's gay as fuck.
>please understand we must translate this into six different languages
FUCK you. Trophies sucked since Brawl when they decided to rip everything from every other game.
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>>11383276
>and let go of the Rareshit anyways.
Agreed.
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>>11383396
Watch out, we got an internet tough guy here.
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>>11383408
>>11383509
They sucked ass in Smash 4 and Melee had the best kind of trophies and bios.
I'm more mad Spirits wasn't utilized better, it's has the best equipment system out of any Smash game.
But nah, gotta tack it on budget D&D Subspace and gatchafied events.
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>>11384447
He said "what", not "who". Referring that the anon didn't know the game he was arguing about. It was not a threat like "you don't know who I am".
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>>11384453
At least Tr4sh had the cool, new Mega Man trophies that were really well done. It's similar to Brawl though how most of the trophies are just rips from other games, especially egregious with the 3DS and reusing a fuckton from Sakurai's baby Kid Icarus Uprising
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>anon says something >>11377401
>other anon agrees but clearly misunderstands >>11383284
>anon informs them >>11383396
>other anon interprets it as a threat >>11384447
Learn to read, retard.
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>cutting characters without replacing them
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>>11386267
This, here's my pitch
>replace Dark Samus with Scizor (charge beam is the pincer constructs from Pokken, screw attack is now rapid spin) (not retro, but trust me on this)
>replace Lucas with Skull Kid (Fairies over PSI basics, new specials altogether, take a guess what replace Lucas' tether?)
this would obviously confuse people, but if it's to win back interest, new characters over familiar movesets would be best way to do it.
and let's be real, Ninten sucks as much as Lucas. Do a separate mod.
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>>11377401
>the maintainers suffer from melee comp brainrot
No, they're spectator rosterfaggots, just like you but actually can contribute. They don't even attempt add any SMRPG characters besides, Shadow the Yoshi, because the entire server has GDS.

At least Slippy and Peppy feel like goofy extras, because the one thing Smash doesn't even have is secret characters you can pick and fuck around with.
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>>11377238
Dark Samus and the Starfox clones were a poor choice.
They did kinda listen though and added more N64 era characters which is excellent.

This hack would break the world if they finally nutted up and added James Bond and a Goldeneye stage.

The motion sensor bomb is already legit in the game, a nearly 1:1 recreation of it from Goldeneye. James Bond is quite possibly the most appropriate character they could add since part of the Goldeneye 64 universe is already represented in the game.

When are we getting James Bond?
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>>11386958
would you take oddjob
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>>11388024
I'll give you an oddjob
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>>11377238
>Replace Dark Samus with Bomberman
>Replace Wolf with Saki from Sin and Punishment
>Replace Lucas with Ray MkII
>Replace Metal Luigi with Rhydon
>Replace Mad Piano with Gruntilda
>Replace Peppy and Slippy with Wolf and Pigma
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>>11377427
I agree. The shift in difficulty is too much for the casual player.
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>>11378045
It's Smash 64, therefore it's retro. End of discussion.
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>>11378246
Hardly ever? And it's free...
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>>11377452
Nice passive aggressive response
>>can't even beat the super predictable and easily-edgeguarda
Obviously not a casual player
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Just throwing the idea out there for those anons who know how to program, it's extremely easy to remove all the characters/stages/music you don't like from this mod yourself. I'm a subpar programmer who never messed with MIPS assembly before and did it alone in a weekend. A lot of stuff is hardcoded obviously but it's more of a chore than a challenge to remove stuff because of all the modes you have to remove/replace things.
Not sharing my fork because I don't want my accounts linked on 4chan.
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>>11389043
The OP says Smash Remix.
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>>11389421
People just want them replaced, not entirely gone. Dark Samus should be a separate mod like Ken is and Slippy was.
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>>11389046
>lying on the internet
and shilling is not always tied to money, and "not yet" even.
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>Smash spergs ripping each other throats over a fanfic mod because it didn't pander to them more
>Meanwhile, I get to play the entire Star Fox crew in a single Smash game for the first time.
Now all it needs is some cool new oc stages that isn't just from 64. Maybe a stage inspired by some walker segments in SF2?
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>>11377238
Still think they should've gone with 64 Lucas
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>>11386958
james bond was already in a version of smash remix. one of the alm pm remix builds. hes a snake clone but iirc there were a few unique moves.
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>>11393507
That's not Smash Remix at all, retard.
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>>11393507
You mean Federation Soldier?
That was a Snake clone based on Brawl Snake, but I never remember any James Bond.
It's possible I missed it and it was abandoned, but I am very familiar with Smash moveset mods, even the forgotten ones.
Maybe it was just an alt costume??
If you have any more info, I'm all ears.

Also yeah, Alm Pmex is unrelated to 64 remix,
64 Remix is unrelated to PMEX Remix.
PMEX Remix is unrelated to Alm PMEX (other than Remix being a sorta spiritual successor kinda).
very poor naming on their part.
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>>11395537
What's the best melee hack out there? Ideally one that has extra characters. I tried akaneia it's meh.
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>>11395746
Well, I think Akaneia is your best bet. Melee modding only got a big push fairly recently, but at least it's getting attention at all. I couldn't tell you what stuff is being worked on.
Brawl is more my forte.
Although there is Smash 2 (PM with a melee coat of paint), and various forks of it, but obviously it's not melee, but I think it's pretty good for what it is.
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>>11395537
This shit is why I completely stopped following Brawl mods, the names are a confusing mess and there are a shitload of mods all trying to do the same thing and recapture the Project M magic.

I don't mind a game having a lot of different mods - in fact I think that's great. But if you're going to do a big overhaul one then give it its own identity, especially if there are like seven other teams all trying to do the same thing.
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>>11395537
It gets worse, REX is somehow not related to either mods, when it's clearly a spiritual rebrand.
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>>11395746
Check out Turbo DX
https://youtu.be/Klpc50nKrcE
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>>11395759
If I had room for 1 single brawl mod, what would you go with?
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>>11396598
That is a tough one...

>For Polish
Project Plus is the best bet. (it is basically a Project M continuation, but more so on the technical side and not really in terms of content.)

>For a balance of polish and extra characters
PMEX REMIX is probably the best one. There are just so many characters and stages.

>And if you don't care about polish and just want to go ham with a range of high quality to extremely jank characters
Project M Universe or Kitsu's Brawlex builds are your best bet.

My current personal build is a heavily trimmed PM Universe, simply for the amount of premade slots (although I will be moving to a Project Plus build asap once they figure out the Character slot limit).
I really enjoy tweaking characters, putting together clone fighters, etc, and it is very easy nowadays to do that, as well as adding characters in general.



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