>System from 2000 that nobody knew about>Said system flopped harder than just about anything else in the history of gaming>System had considerably less games than even the Jaguar CD or game.com>Some of these games were recalled, released only for version versions of the system, or in specific regions>Even in 2024 many people in the retro scene have never heard of it>Decide to make a game for this system anyway>Just the existence of this game alone increases the system's library by 12.5%>Art looks like something a grade schooler doodled on their notebook>Gameplay looks like an alpha of the training mode in Star Fox>Only advertise it in a very niche Discord group dedicated to said console>Charge $70 for something people would not even play on their phone for free>"Oh shit, nobody is buying it"What did these people even expect? I can understand making a game for the fun of it when you are a fan of a super-niche system, but expecting to make a profit? Especially when you only advertise it to a very small fanbase on Discord while charging $70 for it? Even games that look amazing for the hardware they are running on and need to release on a cartridge that may need custom chips can barely manage $50-60 pricepoints, this is a game released on a DVD that looks like a proof-of-concept test project for the FX chip that they are charging $70 for when there were games on the Nuon that almost looked like PS1 games.
How do you know all this?
>>11380172I'd expect there to be a good few dozen retro Youtubers who'll buy it just to make a video titled "THIS RARE AND OBSCURE SYSTEM JUST GOT A NEW GAME!!!". Maybe get a couple dozen more sales after those get released.The rest are gonna get sold on ebay a few years from now at insane prices to collectors.
>>11380525Because it's an obvious shill thread.
>>11380525Basic researching of what the Nuon is? As well as that article talking about the homebrew game? Not hard to read anon.>>11380536I think this system might be too obscure even for that. Though I did see people in the comments section of the YouTube trailer excited for some reason.Seriously, how the fuck can you look at THIS and be excited?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=phaGz_CwNiYEspecially at a $70 pricetag, this looks like shit that someone would have released as free homebrew a decade ago.Especially when other games on the system could look like this:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OycY0esGfUQ&t=271shttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9-SadrpYqNg>>11380546Calling the game total crap, a joke compared to other games on the system, and saying it should have been released for free is shilling? You must have some interesting conspiracy theories.
>>11380172I think the only game worth playing on this thing is the Tempest game, someone correct me
>>11380891>Calling the game total crap, a joke compared to other games on the system, and saying it should have been released for free is shilling?Reverse psychology is a growing trend in shill threads across the site, from what I've seen. It's the "all press is good press" strategy where negative coverage will still get people to look the thing up and spread it around, with the added benefit that people are less likely to call out such negative posts as shilling.
>>11380895I heard that it apparently had the best version of Tempest, but that's literally all it had going for it. The concept was to make a standard for DVD players that could also play games that any manufacturer could incorporate into their DVD player, shame that it launched a few months after the PS2 did to a similar price point. Nobody in their right minds would buy a Nuon over a PS2, assuming they didn't already have a PS2 by the time it came out. considering that the Nuon games were PS1 level at best (and some even had PS1 ports).This game however looks like a joke even as a tech demo for an alpha version of the SNES FX chip.>>11380901>Reverse psychology is a growing trend in shill threads across the site, from what I've seen.Again, not everyone is playing 5D chess. Sometimes someone calling a game shit really is just calling the game shit and it isn't some crazy Batman level scheme to try to trick people on 4chan of all fucking places to buy the game. Put the tinfoil hat down.
Just get some YouTuber to make a video or some Twitter celeb to tweet about it and you'll sell hundreds of copies overnight and probably see them resell for double.
>>11380891Freefall 3050 is such a fucking joke of a game.I remember attending a game design seminar by the dude who directed this, and it's some UK white dude who changed his legal name to appease his Japanese bosses while working at Sega in the 90s. The last 5 minutes of his talk, he showcased the FMV intro (and stops just before the gameplay) and brags about how he got his team to finish a month ahead of schedule. The guy is a producer turned wannabe designer who has no business teaching in the first place.>>11380901Bait is no longer a meme, but a proven marketing strategy.
>>11380949>I remember attending a game design seminar by the dude who directed this, and it's some UK white dude who changed his legal name to appease his Japanese bosses while working at Sega in the 90sKenichi smith
>>11380891>Calling the game total crap, a joke compared to other games on the system, and saying it should have been released for free is shilling? You must have some interesting conspiracy theories.Ah ha! So, you don't deny you're a shill, you shill!
>>11381110I am pretty sure I did.
>>11380172Buy an ad
>>11380891I like to support retro devs and I've brought a bunch of stuff like Intrepid Izzy for DC and I will even accept that you can't expect retro devs to compete with paid teams back in the day who were using the official SDK but the minimum requirement is that is has to use the hardware properly so it if was an NES game and used jerky scrolling I would consider it not good enough. Nuon has something like N64 graphics so even if they made a space invaders type game with good backgrounds it would be much better than this. This feels like a 32k demo you would upload to the Atari jaguar memory using a serial cable.>>11380918I think like Iron Soldier which looks pretty decent.
>>11380172sounds like Nuon wants this game
>>11381446CARLOS YOU LITTLE SHIT
>>11381446Well everyone makes mistakes, just ask your parents that.
>>11381446Kek
EGM and other videogame mags covered it. Almost everyone who was a serious gaymer back then knew-on about Nuon because they were people who were seriously invested in the hobby. You should realize playing vidya back then was considered by normies to be the most loser, virgin, nerd hobby outside of being a comic book reader. It was like being a D&D player in the 70s and 80s.
>>11380901>>11380546>>11381110Not him but I don't want to buy it. I'll forget it exists by tomorrow morning.
>>11381435>This feels like a 32k demo you would upload to the Atari jaguar memory using a serial cable.Pretty much, yes. Normally I am in support of homebrew games but this is a total joke. It looks more like something you would make as a test while learning how to code for the system than a product intended for release, much less for $70. True, it might be too much to expect of someone to make a game on par with some of the best games on the system on their first release, but this is well well behind just about anything else on the system as well as far behind the system's capabilities. The gameplay is barely pre-smartphone era $1 mobile game tier and the art of that instructor or whatever she is also a total joke and I cannot believe they put something that embarrassing looking in the game at all, much less one they are charging for.I am all for people making homebrew games for old and obscure hardware but this is embarrassing for anything other than "This is my first attempt learning to code for the system, here it is for free" tier. You're telling me that somehow this cost over $5000 to make? Teenagers made stuff like this for free in flash on Newgrounds about 20 years ago in under a month, if not under a week. Normally the games charging prices such as these are something that comes on a cart and really blew past the system's original limits, such as Astebros... which still costs less than this.
>>11381667I checked out gaming mags back then and don't remember this. Maybe I just simply completely forgot about it since it barely looked like a PS1 when the PS2 had just come out a few months prior, and the Nuon quietly died barely 3-4 years later. Pretty sure I never saw it in stores even though I had seen kiosks of the CD-I and 3DO before. Feels like more people knew about the Apple Pippin than this thing.
>>11380934I don't know why people think YouTube celebrities have this much pullI've had several of my products featured by metaljesus/hancock & my sales numbers are basically the same kektheir videos are interesting and entertainingthe amount of flack they get for "ruining the market" is dumb af
>>11380172Imagine recreating the flying ring stages from Superman 64 and charging money for that. It literally looks like they ripped assets from Cybermorph and Tempest and called it a day. Jaguar homebrew devs are delusional.
>>11382548>Imagine recreating the flying ring stages from Superman 64 and charging money for that.It's even considerably less than that. In Superman64 it was a full 3D area and you could rotate left and right. In this you are essentially on rails just going in a straight line and can only strafe left and right. There is also barely any background, it's basically just a jpg of a planet against a black background, when in Superman64 the entire level was realtime 3D.Even the training mode of Star Fox despite also being on rails had considerably more going on, and that's counting if you disabled the ability to use any weapons, as well as was on considerably weaker hardware.There was another game that recently came out on Nuon called Insta Death. That one also is incredibly basic and rudimentary, literally looks like a Newgrounds game someone made in the site's early days over a weekend... except that this was a port of a Net-Yaroze game that was done just for fun and released for free. And it still looks better than this game. It reminds me of an old game that was on the Xbox360's short lived homebrew service, which only charged a dollar, and recently got released on Steam for free.
>>11380891>Calling the game total crap, a joke compared to other games on the system, and saying it should have been released for free is shilling?It got me interested, I mostly skipped that paragraph. I don't even have a nuon compatible device and have no interest in playing it. I do like passion project and things that are ultimately pointless outside of someone wanting to do it. Other anon is probably right though, 75% of the threads here are explaining to me why a game myself and countless others like is in reality completely shit or why a game everyone likes is actually really good. If throwback /v/ says it's bad it must be worth checking out, right?Ultimately it is the price, though. I will not pay $70 for new games I actually want to play.
All these games look like budget PC 2003 shit.
>>11381446Good thing your days are counted with the Cheeto man back in office, you little fuck.
>>11380546He's talking shit about the game and its absurd price, do you just see words here and repeat them without knowing what they mean?
>>11381796>the amount of flack they get for "ruining the market" is dumb afMetalfaggot ruined some dudes GameCube adaptor business after his shecow friend broke the adaptor before he reviewed it
>>11384476If you kept reading the thread instead of knee-jerk replying to that first post you'd learn the specific reasoning behind what I said.
>>11381796Made for Haitian barbecue.
>>11380172The early days of DVD players were like the wild west when it came to features, you had the Nuon, the Panasonic M2 3DO and Circuit City/Zenith's DIVX, not that DIVX, all trying to solve the problem of how to sell a video player that couldn't rewrite and they were deeply terrified of the rental market not adopting DVD. In the beginning players were expensive and so were the actual disc. The Nuon and the DIVX had the same idea of a type of digital delivery system that used dial up internet, but DIVX actually came to market using burnt disc you had to buy at Circuit City.
>>11385067Digital delivery? Nuon games came on DVDs.
>>11385080It's like a 3DO there are multiple manufacturers. Samsung, RCA, and a few others made one, Motorola's which was more of a cable box had video streaming But the units do have ethernet ports on the back.
>>11385098I know it was like the 3DO in that regard, but from my understanding the games all came on disks.
>>11385107There werre no streaming games, but it was built to stream movies and it's chip set was used to build the 1st generation of digital cable boxes.There's only the 7 domestic games and the Korean exclusive Shin-Chan region locked to the Samsung model.As a game console it was a failure but it's tech went on to cable boxes and HDDVD players. It's probably the inspiration for Xbox One but 15 years earlier .
>>11385287>It's probably the inspiration for Xbox One but 15 years earlierHow? That doesn't even come close to making sense. If you mean the actual Xbox One, then 360 already had video streaming before it and MS said a lot of the 360's features like that were inspired by the homebrew people made for the original Xbox. If by "Xbox One" you mean the original, it released a year after the Nuon, there wasn't time to "inspire" it, it's design was already well underway.
>>11380172Make a Kickstarter
>>11385950They both wanted to be set top boxes that wanted to play games. Did you forget you can plug your other HDMI devices into the X1 and control them through an Xbox overhead
>>11386107By that logic the PSX was influenced by the Nuon.Personally I think it's safe to say that the dismal failure that barely lasted three years and was quickly forgotten didn't influence anything.
>>11380546
>>11380172I only know about this system because of Redump.
