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Would buying Pokemon R/B carts in bulk be a good idea to have a chance of one of them containing a legit tournament Mew?
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>>11384534
>spending hundreds of dollars to get a legit copy of mew
For what reason whatsoever would you want to do this, OP?
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>>11384534
Uhh...no.
The save batteries die.
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You can probably gamashark one that looks 100% legit, so just get a single cheat cartridge instead
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>>11384543
Just chasing a white whale from childhood.
Buying in bulk isn't as expensive per unit and I can resell them
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>>11384549
And the save batteries will be dead.
So you won't get one.

You'd be better off trying to find a distribution machine on eBay. Idk what they use in gen 1, in Gen 4 they used DS carts to trade. Might be similar.
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>>11384549
You do you, man. I just don't think it'll feel worth it in the end. The model Game Freak came up with to distribute legendaries back in the day was stupid. The idea that I wouldn't be able to complete the regional pokedex without going in person to an event is dumb, and the fact that you have to consider doing this to get a legit mew just proves my point, really.
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This thread has shown up a few times over the last couple of years at least. Either multiple OPs have arrived at the same dumb idea, or perhaps it's one idiot. Obviously the odds of a tournament Mew appearing on a random old cart are nil and would be even if these batteries were all surviving 25 years on.
Now all we need is showoff bro with his Certificate of Authenticity picture to make this thread complete.
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>>11384549
So when you get the "legit" Mew, how are you going to verify it's legit?

I can put a legit looking Mew on my official Gameboy games in 5 minutes. It will be indistinguishable from a legit event Mew. You should consider this before being a retard with your money.
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>>11384578
Those things are really cool, but they look very easy to re-print.
Did they have a seal or anything on them?
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OP, you can outsource this. Send me $1000 and wait six months, and then I'll send you back a cartridge with a Mew on it that I'll tell you is legitimate. You needn't spend time searching through the games yourself.
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>>11384574
When's OP gonna answer this question?
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>>11384549
Unless you get a matching Mew certificate of authenticity you might as well give up. Your hunt is a waste of money. if you want a non cheated one just do the mew glitch in red, blue, or yellow and it will be close enough to being legitimate. If you want to spend it, go ahead I'm not your dad.
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>>11384634
Oh so they don't have a seal or stamp or something on them? Unless it's on the back maybe.
These are going to be very easy to fake and sell on eBay.
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>>11384646
>Oh so they don't have a seal or stamp or something on them?
Nope, but unfortunately most colleges and jobs will no longer accept them in place of exam results, so there's not much point in faking them now.
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>>11384649
I'm sure your joke is very funny, but it didn't make me laugh.
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>>11384646
The pure soul they exude is impossible to replicate artificially.
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>>11384534
you probably got your answer last time you made this thread
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>>11384662
I'm sure it can't. But eBay buyers won't care/know.
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>>11384653
I smirked
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>>11384557
Gen 1 Mew distributions are thought to be normal cartridges with a special save file loaded on it. No known examples have shown up, just a few old photos of Gameboy Pockets with seals on the cartridge.
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>>11384721
That's what they did for the VC rerelease.
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>>11384686
At which part?
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>>11384721
There's been a few anecdotal confirmations that distribution carts were literally just red/blue carts with PCs full of mews that you had to trade something for.

I suppose they could have made special carts that just like generated a mew through trading, but considering basically every other distribution cart surfaced there's no way a dedicated gen 1 distribution cart wouldn't have turned up eventually.
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>>11384774
If there was a specialized rom, we would have seen it in one of the leaks.
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>>11384774
The Mew has your trainer ID though. This can't be true.
If they had a PC full of Mews to trade, they would all have trainer ID's already.
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>>11384792
It doesn't have your ID, it has a randomized one.
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>>11384634
these niggas really used comic sans and word art lmao
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>>11384838
To be fair it was a different time
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>>11384838
comic sans is fine for goofy little kid stuff. I feel like a lot of people just blindly bitch about that font without realizing the actual issue with it.
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>>11384534
>>11384543
Tendies and their autism never fail to shock me
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>>11384549
Just do the glitch. Those Mews aren't different from the ones you can catch via the glitch, it's the same 1 and 0s.
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>>11384534
>still no
/thread
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Is mew even good
I never used him
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>>11384549
youre sick. repulsive loser.
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>>11385018
yeah it's really broken
it's gimmick is that it can learn any TM and HM so you can build like a Swords Dance/Soft Boiled/Body Slam/Earthquake ass fucker
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>>11385018
Yes. It's very reliant on TMs because its level-up movepool is garbage. But that gives it sort of an evolving role if you stick with it, and teach it new moves as you get them.
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>>11384902
>using /v/ console war lingo
>having a console war mindset
You're worse than them.
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Pretty much zero.

IIRC only 1500 were given out in the US over a period of three days, I have no idea how many were distributed in Japan or other countries, but Gen 1 in total sold over 31 million copies, meaning somewhere around 0.01% to 0.02% if not even less of RGB carts in the world had a legit mew on them.

And notice I said the word HAD. For many of these the batteries have since died and that Mew along with every other Pokemon in the cart is gone.

And this is assuming they were not transferred to Gen 2.

There was a whole quest someone went on to hunt down a cartridge that had a legit mew with it's battery still alive just to dump it to try to preserve it. Chances are insultingly low that you will also somehow manage to get a cart that happens to have a legit Mew on it and the battery is still alive just by chance when it took a combined effort to find one for preservation purposes.

It's also far less likely someone who had a legit Mew would just toss away/sell their cart as any old other random Pokemon cart.

On top of all of this, there was many ways to hack a Mew into your game, if you even get one, how will you know it's legit? Chances are LITERALLY at least 99.99% if not higher that it's fake.

And since it was dumped a few years ago like I said, people can even clone the legit Mew now, there is zero way of guaranteeing the one you got was not cloned like this unless you can somehow guarantee the cart was not touched after the Mew was dumped AND can guarantee it was not hacked/glitched in... and all this is IF you find a cart with a Mew in it.

So yeah, barely 0.01%, even less realistically, might as well be 0%. Don't waste your time or your money.
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>>11385038
>On top of all of this, there was many ways to hack a Mew into your game, if you even get one, how will you know it's legit? Chances are LITERALLY at least 99.99% if not higher that it's fake.
to me, this is the silver bullet that makes OP's whole endeavor completely pointless, sadly
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There was no way to carry Pokemon forward from Gen 1 and 2 right? But after Gen 3 they had methods to carry Pokemon all the way forward to the current games, right? I'm not a big pokemon guy despite having played a bunch of the games
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I got one (well, 3 actually) when I joined a tournament in the UK like 20 years ago. Didn't get a certificate though
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>>11385054
>There was no way to carry Pokemon forward from Gen 1 and 2 right?
Pokemon Bank on 3DS can import pokemon from the virtual console versions of Gen 1 and 2, but as far as original cartridges go no, gen 1 and 2 are completely cut off.
>But after Gen 3 they had methods to carry Pokemon all the way forward to the current games, right?
yeah
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>>11385038
can't you just get a legit mew from completing the pokedex in the japanese version
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>>11385054
There are homebrew methods, but if you want to keep everything legit they'll be stuck in the first two gens.
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>>11384581
I was thinking the same thing, that looks like it was literally printed on some school's inkjet printer like a grade school handing out an "award" to a student. Maybe with a closer look/better quality camera you can tell a difference, but from that photo it doesn't even look like toner was used on a color copier, but straight up inkjet. Honestly looks suspiciously low quality for Nintendo, but then again, this was the 90s and Nintendo hardly took this kind of stuff anywhere near that seriously back then, especially gen 1 of Pokemon.

Also... I find it hard to believe someone by hand wrote the ID numbers for thousands of these (Considering one of them is 50443, I assume these were not in numerical order since there is no way that was over 50000 given out in this event alone). I assume it was not a single person anyway, so you can't even try to compare handwriting to see if the certificate was faked.

I don't know how the data in Gen 1 works but I assume with modern Pokemon hacking software, and that legit Mew dump, you can fake any ID number you want too.

>>11384721
IIRC you had to send in your cart and they would load a Mew on it. Gen 1 really wasn't designed for distributions.
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>>11385054
>There was no way to carry Pokemon forward from Gen 1 and 2 right?
Without hacking/other tools not through the physical carts. And I don't recall if there was ever any sort of event or legit way to get one in the VC versions.

>But after Gen 3 they had methods to carry Pokemon all the way forward to the current games, right?
For mainline games yes. I know there was a lot of side-games that let you transfer some of the Pokemon to the mainline games, generally a special or event Pokemon but there were other games that let you transfer most if not all of the Pokemon to the mainline games. (IIRC there was some AR game on the 3DS that did this, among many others) not sure if the methods for any of those are dead now or not.

Also there is a high chance that 7 and later will be cut off in the near future, since those rely on an online service through a 3DS (IIRC you already can no longer download the app to do it if you didn't before the eshop shutdown, someone correct me if I am wrong), while the service is still up for now, it won't be forever. And unless Nintendo goes out of their way to somehow make a replacement, once that service goes down Gen 7 and earlier will be cut off. It They already made it require an app years ago that unless you paid for you could only transfer a small amount a a time from the DS to 3DS games, because god forbid they just let you trade over wireless like DS to DS or 3DS to 3DS games let you. Regardless, I doubt they are going to keep that 3DS Pokemon transfer service up forever.

>>11385058
IIRC no.
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>>11385076
There was a Mew distribution rom that leaked a few years ago. It's just a version of Blue that has boxes full of Mew that get traded to other copies of the game.
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what was the OT again
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>>11385038
Don't forget that even if you did get and it was a legit one you can't do anything with it outside of mess around with it on emulators. It's stuck to gens 1 and 2 because there's no way to legitimately grab it out of there and it has less value than the shiny Go Mew or the Pokeball Mew from LGPE because those were limited and cost money.
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>>11385095
It varies.
See >>11384634
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>>11385038
>And this is assuming they were not transferred to Gen 2.
imagine if it were, the clone box trick in Gen 2 is pretty easy to pull off too. Is this a "legit" mew too?
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>>11385185
It wouldn't matter unless it was transferred to Stadium, because every gen 2 cart has a dead battery.
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>>11385126
>tripfag
Welcome to the filter.
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>>11385190
OK suppose it was. You can go from gen 2 back to gen 1 anyway. Point is, does OP consider a cloned mew a legit mew?
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>>11384534
>>11384545
I have a legit tournament Mew and my battery still works.
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>>11385225
well, certainly you'll be posting pics soon
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>>11384578
>>11384634
This is so fucking SOVL I wish the internet and datamining didn't destroy this kind of thing
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>>11384727
We have the Euro VC Mew distro rom. It's got a builtin savestate that has the player standing in front of the trade lady and a single Mew in the party.
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>>11385018
Metronome and Transform allow for lulz, putting a normal set on it would just break the game.
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>>11385057
In a way I really like how Gen 1 and 2 are in their own, retro ecosystem. The family of R/G/B/Stadium/Y/G/S/Stadium 2
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it was just as stupid an idea as when you made this thread the first time
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>>11385351
transform on mew actually makes it better at using transform than ditto. Higher speed and HP to pull it off.
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>>11385413
well no it's slightly stupider because the batteries have had that much more time to fade
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>>11384902
This

>>11385036
>recognizing lingo
You'rve become what you scorn.
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>>11385338
So all those legit Mews are actually savesates

Might as well tell all the retards that use savestates on multiple emulator sessions at the same time with fastforward that their shiny hunting is legit

Man GF can't do anything right
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Why is everyone saying that the save batteries MUST be dead? I've got an old cartridge of Donkey Kong Land that still has a functioning save battery. Been almost 30 years and it's still at the same level I got stuck on. Even got some used Famicom and Super Famicom games that still have old save data on them.
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>>11384587
this is a much more sensible approach, OP.
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>>11385518
That's the best way to go about it without changing how Pokemon distribution works for the VC release.
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>>11385225
tick tock ;)
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>>11385518
the notion of a "legit" digital thing that can be copied infinitely is some kind of consumerist delusion
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>>11385509
Based, console warring is the best.
Fuck the old /vr/'s anti-console warring mindset, this is neo-/vr/ now, we come from neo-/v/
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>>11385561
Crab bucket mentality.
It's the Gold/Silver batteries that are dead (because of the internal clock), some Red/Blue might be dead but most are still alive.
Though I recommend transferring your monsters to Stadium for a better chance at lasting longer
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>>11385058
No, that's never been true.
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>>11385808
Stadiums batteries die as well.
Luckily you can swap the batteries on these old games while they are still running. That way you won't lose your save data when replacing them.
Never done it on an N64, but I know it works on GB/GBC
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>>11384549
Why don't you invest in your future?
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>>11384570
Dead Internet theory.
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>>11384838
That's not WordArt.
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>>11385808
>Though I recommend transferring your monsters to Stadium for a better chance at lasting longer

Bait
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>>11385824
You can also get a dumper to dump your saves rather than playing hot-potato swapping them around.
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>>11385839
>>11385824
Never had any N64 game battery dying personally, but OK
I understand nothing lasts forever, but
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>>11385824
>>11385839
Stad 1 and 2 don't use save batteries. Most N64 games don't use save batteries.
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>>11385915
Stadium 1 did, as well as a lot of big ones did like Mario 64, OOT, F-Zero, Ogre Battle 64, and even Resident Evil 2 for some reason.

The N64 memory cards also used a battery for some stupid reason (Neither the Saturn nor the PS1's memcards did)
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>>11385747
GF/Nintendo for some reason are huge gate keepers when it comes to pokemon. They locked a bunch behind events, that most people would never be able to attend. Then locked your ability to back-up or copy saves. I can't imagine playing Monster Rancher and not being able to duplicate a save file. I get they're trying to make their pokemon feel special, unique and "alive" but then you run into how the games work. They very much encourage you to catch multiple of the same pokemon to try and find one with better stats. They've always been disposable. Reload saves for better stats. It's not special, it's still a game.
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>>11385915
Stadium 1 does. Open it up and have a look. Mine does.
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>>11384534
just create a legit one in Rhydon and dump it onto a flashcart
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>>11385885
Yeah the dumpers are useful. I have an Analogue Pocket so I just exported my GB save states from there. Now when I change my battery, I can keep my childhood team.
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>>11385930
>The N64 memory cards also used a battery for some stupid reason (Neither the Saturn nor the PS1's memcards did)
Because flash was expensive as hell in the 90s. Saturn Backup carts were like $60 and Sony was clearly selling their memcards at a fraction of what it cost to make them to big dick their competition.
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>>11385885
Thanks doc.
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>>11385987
Why go on the internet and tell lies?
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>>11384545
Red and Blue had better batteries than Gold and Silver. They last a lot longer so it's not impossible some have working saves. Now I can't imagine it's likely to find one with a legit Mew on it of course.
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>>11386081
Neither the Saturn nor PS1 memcards were flash.

Also, fucking Sonic 3 used non-volatile storage. If SEGA could manufacture games that don't need a battery to save, not to mention the majority of N64 games with on-cart saving also didn't use batteries, it wasn't some brutal massive cost.

Your "Sony was eating the costs" also doesn't explain how 3rd parties could make even cheaper ones.

>>11386317
>Red and Blue had better batteries than Gold and Silver. They last a lot longer
I assume it's less a case of "Red and Blue had better batteries" and more a case of "Red and Blue's battery only had to power a SRAM chip, Gold and Silver had to power both the SRAM and the RTC chips".
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>>11386134
>>11386252
Sure, I'll do it when I get home.
Are you guys in the US? Mine is a pal cart. I actually have 2 carts, I can check both if you'd like.
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>>11386336
No,the battery was bigger in red and blue. Yellow, Gold, Silver and Crystal all have smaller batteries, probably in an effort to penny pinch.
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>>11386317
My yellow carts battery died like 10 years ago
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>>11386347
Yeah Yellow has a smaller capacity battery, just like gsc do.
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Red, Blue, Gold, Silver, and Crystal all use the same 2025 batteries
Yellow is the only one to use 1616 batteries

GSC die faster (much faster) entirely because of the RTC.
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>>11384634
>six digit ID
>but Pokemon ID numbers only have five digits
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>>11386359
>much faster
ye I think my GSC ran out of battery almost 15 years ago meanwhile my Red and Blue still have their saves on them
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>>11384545
I've still got both my red and blue carts from launch, both batteries still work. No mew though. Silver and gold batteries died within like a decade
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>>11386359
It's actually kind of annoying that they use CR2025's. I wanted to install battery holders into my GSC carts to make replacing the battery easier, but the only clip holders that are designed to fit into a gameboy cart cost like $15 each, so I just put generic CR1616 holders in them instead. The tabs barely reach the solder pads, but it works.

Makes my crystal cart look weird but it still beats having to solder in a new battery every 2 years.
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There are so many ways to manipulate save files on real GB carts, what would even be the point?
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>>11386898
I've been wanting to get some of these. Any advice before I buy?
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>>11387459
They're just generic CR1616 clip holders, you can get them from anywhere. Like I said the tabs barely reach the pads, so you need to make sure there's a lot of solder to make a strong joint that can handle the clip flexing when a battery's inserted. The positive side of the clip pokes up a bit and might scratch the inside of a Gameboy Cart (doesn't on GBC carts because of the bulge) but you can just clip like 1mm off the end of it to stop it from doing that.

Retro game repair shop sells a more proper CR2025 holder designed for gameboy carts (picrel) but again, they're like $15 a each. I think the PCB for them is open source so you could technically get some made yourself but it's still pretty expensive.

These CR1616 clip holders also barely fit into GBA cartridges like RSE, but I've never been able to get them in flat enough so you don't have to squeeze the cartridge shut afterwards, so I don't bother with them.
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I had legit mews in my Blue and Yellow. 12 years ago when I checked my Blue battery was dead and so were all my pokemon there. My Yellow still held strong. Haven't turned it on in 12 years. I'm guessing that Mew is also gone by now.I should check one of these days and if it's still there sell it to a retard like OP.
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>>11384545
Last I checked (about a year ago) my Red and Blue batts were still good.
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>>11384574
This was the question I had when I first saw OP's thread.
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>>11386359
Back in the day my friend's Yellow battery died after somewhere around 200 hours of playtime on his save. My Silver battery was around 370-380 when that died.

I don't know if that supports or goes against what you said, but there's some data for ya
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>>11388032
Playtime wouldn't make a difference.
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>>11387746
Is $15 really too much for the right component? Sheesh.
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>>11388052
$15, multiplied by however many carts.
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>>11388040
It might. Batts gonna do more work every time you save and any heat source is going to further degrade its longevity. Albeit small amounts at a time, these things still add up. It takes every grain of sand to make a beach.
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>>11388054
How many carts you runnin', mate? I'm looking at $45 worth. Not so bad.
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>>11388059
The battery wouldn't be used when saving. The battery's job is to keep the sram powered. You can still play and save properly with a dead/missing battery, you just lose progress when the console loses power.
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If I can get a functional alternative at 20pcs for $5, yeah kind of.
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>>11386898
>new battery every 2 years.
holy fucking shit bro you did it
you typed the STUPIDEST shit i have ever read
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>>11384534
You can acquire it in any game through some very obscure game breaking glitches. Just like how you can multiply your items in these games doing glitches.
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>>11388268
okay fine, every 4 to 6 years, give or take
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>>11384549
Would using this save file on an Everdrive or whatever the GameBoy equivalent is be too inauthentic for you?:
https://digiex.net/threads/pokemon-gen1-yoshira-mew-red-distribution-cart-save-download.15327/
This is an actual save from a cartridge that would be used to distribute Mews back then, provided by a former Toys R Us employee. They would simply trade a Mew from this cartridge over to you.
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>>11389162
:D
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>>11386252
>>11386337
Checked Stadium 1/2, they don't have batteries. My mistake.
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>>11389007
This is basically what I did.
>put game in transfer pak
>transfer save over from PC with Everdrive 64
>put all the Mews in my N64 box in Stadium
>start a new save and play the game normally
>give myself one of the Mews to complete the dex
It's basically one of the most "authentic" and sane ways to do this
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>>11385518
How did you think they worked? You thought some Japanese man hand-crafted each one special for you?
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>>11389781
They were pulled directly from the Pokemon universe and sent to your GameBoy cartridge through magickal means
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>>11389370
So >>11385839
>>11385824
Got told??
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>>11389442
Or just use the game special stat mew glitch. Mew was never intended to be given out and all methods of distribution which created retroactively in the wake of pokemons success. They're all hacks. Saying a corporate approved hack is more valid than an accidental publicly available hack is a mentally that will only sour your experience. Players have access to mew on carts as is. They even left this glitch in the virtual console versions. It's legit.
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>>11389879
That works too. I think at the point I thought of it in my Blue play through, I couldn't do the Mew glitch anymore.
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>>11389879
>They even left this glitch in the virtual console versions. It's legit.
They didn't fix any bugs for the virtual console versions regardless. Just disabled printer-related stuff and made it so you could use the 3DS wireless connection as a link cable.
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>>11389879
When it comes to the VC release, t's not legit as far as GF is concerned. Glitched Mews will not transfer to Bank. Only the giveaway VC Mew which you can get with >>11385338 is legit and will be accepted.
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>>11389951
I think it just checks for the OT and ID, so you can spoof it.
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>>11389945
Exactly, meaning if they were so against it, why not gut it? I just feel bad for people who want "legit" or "official" versions of things when those are terms meant to give people FOMO and the need to spend money on things that a company it selling you. I think all the distribution carts are interesting and all too. I'm not trying to diminish the history. I think though historically it's way more interesting that after all the years of fake ways to get mew, there is indeed a method on the cart, that's not unreasonable to pull off and stayed when the game was "officially" ported to the 3DS. That's a Mew created by the fans, not the company.
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>>11389962
No DV check?
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>>11389980
Nope, I was able to pass a hacked shiny one through just fine.
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>>11389940
It's trickier to set up the right special value, but so long as there's a trainer you can escape from you can always set up the glitch.

>>11389983
Bank's legality checker is very retarded, you'd have to check if it's legal on Home too for it to really matter.
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>>11390018
>implying i bought any of the switch games
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>>11389951
There are extra glitches you can do with the bugged 8F item to fix up a glitched Mew to make it legit. But one mistake and your save file gets wiped.
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>>11390018
just made a higher quality version of that map. It's not completely accurate to yellow btw.
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>>11389965
>if they were so against it, why not gut it?
Because it's rendered useless for most people anyway. You can't transfer it out to other games because it fails legality checks (unless your Trainer ID matches the official distribution), it's effectively quarantined.

>>11389980
>>11389983
The Transporter doesn't read DVs. It randomizes them when the Pokemon is converted to the modern format, and a couple IVs are guaranteed perfect. Shiny status is kept, and they get an extra perfect IV.
It's very easy to get past its checks.
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>>11389945
>Just disabled printer-related stuff and made it so you could use the 3DS wireless connection as a link cable.
Don't forget overlaying a really goofy looking purple-face over Jynx's sprite any time it appears on screen
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>>11384534
literally bits on a catridge's ram
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>>11386252
looks like that's a flash ram on top, so it will die with enough rewrites
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>>11384534
Just play Pokemon pure R/G/B
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VC debates when talking about carts. Who gives a shit what a legal transfer is? You can get mew on a cart, this is /vr/ not /vp/
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>>11389879
>Mew was never intended to be given out
Not so sure about that. You can't add data about a Pokemon to the games (not without DLC which became a thing decades later), any events/distributions can only use data that already exists on the cart. Mew is fully in the code, and clearly was completed and not just some leftover dummy or unfinished data. Even the game's lore talks about it's existence and the Pokedex entry mentions how rare it is to even see it. The sprite was even updated for the US release.

These were all clearly deliberate. They didn't decide to create all this lore about Mew and then never show it, create Mew itself and finish it but not implement any way to get it, even mention in it's Dex entry how rare it is... only to then turn around and go "Gee, the game is popular, we didn't expect that! Let's jury-rig an event that puts this one super-legendary Pokemon that we just by chance 100% completed and even added to the game's lore but never actually put in the game where 0.1% of the customers will be able to get it in the game".
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>>11391443
>The sprite was even updated for the US release
All sprites were updated for the original japanese Blue, which is what western Red and Blue were based off.
As I remember, Mew was supposedly added as a secret by one of the programmers without anyone else knowing, not sure how true that is.
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>>11391489
>All sprites were updated for the original japanese Blue, which is what western Red and Blue were based off.
Yes, but why update a sprite, or even keep it in the data, that you are not going to use? Unless of course, you did fully intend to use it.

>As I remember, Mew was supposedly added as a secret by one of the programmers without anyone else knowing, not sure how true that is.
Again, considering that you can read lore about it in the game, I highly doubt that. It would mean that not only did one man somehow manage to not only sneak in a fully completed Pokemon into the game all by himself (Doing the programming, testing, design, AND pixel art) that the other devs just happened to include lore for with no intention of actually having that Pokemon in the game... or that this one man managed to not only do all that but ALSO managed to sneak in this lore that is fully accessible in the game to any player without anyone noticing... and for what? For him to go "Hee hee hee, I put a weird looking cat hidden in the game data that nobody will see!"? and that when GameFreak found out they just went "Oh, well, let's make it official and one of the most important Pokemon in the entire series."?

Finding Mew under the truck was a more believable story than that.
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>>11384634
mine is rotting somewhere in the garage. I also got some badge pog things they gave out at the tournament, good times
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>>11384534
Gen 1 games are at that age where the save batteries are dying. The odds of finding a game that hasn't had the original file reset over or completely wiped from the battery dying are so astronomically low that it's just not worth trying because the amount out there is close to 0 and the people who have them likely know that and aren't selling.
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>>11390396
I hate the way they handled this, it's an emulator hack so you can't just edit it away in the patch file like everything else. I've been hoping someone would come up with a solution to disable it but I doubt that'll ever happen.
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People have been doing this for years lol. I never got a (legit) Mew but got 2 shinys.
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>>11391538
>somehow manage to not only sneak in a fully completed Pokemon into the game all by himself (Doing the programming, testing, design, AND pixel art)
You damn well know they didn't do any testing in this game, it's full of bugs. You talk as though you clearly do not understand how games are made. Did you know some atari games were made entirely by one person? This was a gameboy game with a really small team. Look at the games credits, names repeat as people on the team wore many hats. Your inability to comprehend how it's done is laughable.
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So how strong is Mew scaled to modern mons? I only played gen 1 and gen 2 but I know later entries in the series have "pokegods" or whatever. Mew was seen as a sort of God pokemon, what with him being some sort of DNA source of all Pokemon. How does he still compare to the newer strong monsters?
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>>11392047
I just noticed, original Mew is like a fetus, the oversized head, the tube-like body and very small frontal extremities. Sorta like a toad even though poliwhirl kind of represented that, but not really.
They made him more cute and cat-like on Blue.
I really like Blue's sprite, and always found Green original one really jarring, but I guess it's because I expected the redesign. Something was lost in the transition.
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>>11392047
>I know later entries in the series have "pokegods" or whatever. Mew was seen as a sort of God pokemon, what with him being some sort of DNA source of all Pokemon
Tell me, do you know who Arceus is?
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>>11392047
What's Blue Beta? The early E3 build Gold sprites?
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>>11392070
Nope
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>>11386349
GSC uses the same 2032 battery that RB does. Yellow uses a 1616. It's not the battery size that kills GSC, it's the fact that it's powering a RTC.
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>>11392047
It's not nearly as strong. 100s across the board is not very good, and a lot of the good TMs/tutors are gone.
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>>11392047
Mew has been pretty consistently top-tier because of it's "learns any move" gimmick. Uber for the first four gens and has alternated between OU and UU until the current gen, which has such fucking clownish balance that nobody should ever take it seriously anyway.

Or if you meant in terms of lore, I don't think Mew was ever really meant to be a "powerful" pokemon, just a very rare genetic mystery.
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>>11392150
Yeah I mean lore-wise.
I remember reading something like Mew was actually the source of all Pokemon, lile a god or mother. I guess it was fan theory or I made it up
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>>11392090
It was found in the red/blue source code that leaked.
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>>11392338
It's the pm2f_myu.dat file. They commented it out and replaced it with pm2f_151.dat which is the final graphic.
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>>11391538
It's likely that other people knew, but with no legitimate way to obtain it, nobody cared. The games could've been close to finishing development, and you don't fuck with shit and potentially break other things at that point.
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>>11391538
The lore was more for Mewtwo than Mew.
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>>11392338
>>11392342
Thanks, missed that.
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>>11392358
Yes but it mentioned both
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>>11393487
Because they needed some context for Mewtwo's origin.
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>>11393497
... which they fully put into the game and finished but then decided not to include?
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It's a shame you can't transfer monsters between JP and US carts
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>>11392070
Likes sex with Human men.
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>>11393587
Yeah.
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>>11393587
It's possible that Mew was going to be featured in the game at some time during development (you have to remember there were ~190 monsters before the roster got cut down), but the game was finished with the understanding that Mew wouldn't be included outside of a brief mention in the Cinnabar lore dump.
Morimoto recklessly squeezed it into the data after the game had been completed (AFTER the debugging process and late enough that even Nintendo wasn't aware of it), but without any way to access it in the vanilla game. He claims to have expected some sort of distribution event like we eventually got, but it's more likely he just wanted to leave his mark.

As for why Mew's sprite was even updated at all for Blue, Mew distribution events had already been going on for Red and Green for over a year prior to Blue's first release date. By that point it wasn't some secret, inaccessible bit of data. People had them, and would be expected to use them in Blue, so of course they'd roll out an updated sprite.

Source:
Iwata Asks - Pokémon HeartGold Version & SoulSilver Version - Part 1. Just Making The Last Train
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I was one of the winners of a nintendo power contest for getting mew. They gave me a prepaid fedex envelope and I sent them my Blue cart. Came back with a mew. I was pissed that I didn't get any certificate with it though. (But I did keep the "u a winner" letter)
I backed up my save with pic related, which I'm guessing guess is flash-based and more resilient than battery. Mew was still on there when I checked 2 years ago.
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>>11395062
It's kind of funny how there isn't even really a proper region lock, the games connect just fine it's just that they inevitably shit themselves when one game sends over text data to the other game in a language that isn't programmed into the game.
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>>11392051
yeah, he certainly has a more "mysterious progenitor" look in red/green, and moe-fied while still distinct in blue
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>>11395383
and another thing, i feel like i still find the first mew cute because i really love animals. the shape of mew's head in the first one reminds me of a rat with their funny shaped heads that give them this "randall boggs" lurching pose if they're not waddling flat on the ground
old mew looks like he would crawl on all 4 legs like a gecko and i dig it
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>>11384774
>>11384721
Dont we literally have a save dumped from one of them already?
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>>11395458
Yes
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>>11395291
Dump it for online. Also take a pic of the letter pleaseeeee.
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>>11395458
Yes they were already posted in the thread

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>>11395468
rather than hunt through my moving boxes I googled and found a redditor's same letter
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>>11392095
Basically, he's a Pokemon that's God. Not "a" god, but God. As in the whole omniscient being from before the beginning of time and created the universe and all of existence God.

They have gone way way beyond Mew being the propagator of all Pokemon since Gen 1.

>>11395128
So even the person who squeezed in it (sounds like it wasn't really THAT in secret as the previous anon stated, more of a daredevil thing that many of the dev group were in on but under the radar of the higher ups rather than it being something like what Warren Robinett did.) was expecting they could have an event for it.

>>11395291
Would probably be useful if you could dump that save, would help people check it against the other Mew that was dumped to see if they had any differences.

Also I have that thing too, but it was something I got super-cheap right in that era between when GameBoy games were considered new and were considered "retro" and everything related to 6th gen or older was dirt cheap other than a handful of known rare games.

>>11395379
Really? I didn't know the Gen 1 games could not, considering that they boast and encourage trading between regions nowadays.
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>>11396029
>Basically, he's a Pokemon that's God. Not "a" god, but God. As in the whole omniscient being from before the beginning of time and created the universe and all of existence God.
That sounds so fucking stupid. Pokemon crawled way too far up its own ass.
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>>11396061
You should see how weird the in-game special event (Which IIRC you needed an item from a distribution to start) to obtain him is:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hi6WyRP6Cog
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>>11396061
>That sounds so fucking stupid.
The only reason you can even catch Arceus is because it lets you catch a portion of its power. You should see the leaks which contextualize Arceus the human luster even more.
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Be a man and just glitch out your yellow version like a Chad like I did
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>>11396479
>>11396061
Yeah, there was always speculation that you was somehow not catching the "real" Arceus since, you know, God. And in the event you are given an egg which hatches into Arceus, implying that it's not the original or something.

Then in Pokemon Arceus it revealed that the one you actually "catch" is just a tiny fragment of his power that he is letting you use.
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>>11396542
>OT/ASH
I won't settle for anything less than a YOSHIRA or YOSHIRB legit OT tournament Mew
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>>11396610
Pokemon should have ended with GSC.
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>>11384547
3pbp
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>>11384634
>if you want a non cheated one just do the mew glitch
This nigga
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>>11396628
that would have been tragic to end on such a shit generation

it would be exactly like the DMC series ending with DMC2



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