Thoughts on the Warcraft trilogy remasters? Are they worth a buy? I know people shit on WC3 Reforged a lot but what about the new remasters of the first 2 games?
>>11391189I played them and they're fine. You can switch between old/new graphics on the fly as well. The best thing though is the QoL improvements for WC1. Can right click to mine or chop trees now and unit selection was upped from 4 to 9
looks like AI upscaled trash, and Blizzard can keep fucking themselves until they put back the original WC3.
>>11391189No. Use Stratagus. Pirate the games. Blizzard's buggy AI upscaled trash is extremely poor quality, littered with bugs, terribly redrawn art and serious underlying issues that are the equivalent to putting a tourniquet on a leg already rotten with gangrene. now do the needful Raynesh.
Honestly, judging purely by these minimum specs they must have done at least something right.
>>11391201>>11391220>>11391234>ai upscaled graphicsGoddamn, that’s a shame, especially since the QoL improvements sound worthwhile. I see they’re also touting new graphics updates to the original visuals contained in reforged, feels too little, too late. All they had to do was do some modernization QoL for the original game and everything would’ve been fine.
>>11391249They aren't. Anon is an idiot.The upscaled art does feel kinda generic regardless.
>>1139124630 gigabytes of space?!?!what in the fuck has gone mad with this world that we use storage so frivolously. you could have done that for less than 1/10th the storage.
>>11391253I missed that one lol. I'm sure it's just the usual uncompressed assets.
>>11391189>Warcraft trilogy remasters?They aren't remasters, perhaps qualify as remixes with upscaled resolution, if at all.Stop sending the message to these companies that it is ok to adapt for "modern audiences" or rehash and repack classics. That's why creativity has gone down the crapper across the land, they don't even need to try to squish a few more bucks out of paypigs.
>>11391251>YOU BLOODY FUCK BITCH BASTRD BENCHOD DO NOT REDEEMYes, they are. They're using AI upscale for everything from the portraits, splash screen art to the the actual classic HD models themselves that's literally by the definition of the word what they're doing, there's a ton of people covering it. WC1/2 also have a mess of errors. Whether that's poorly drawn sprites, map eras, removed animations, etc. All three games have bugs and issues but moreso WC3 because it's essentially an open beta that's trying to fix everything Reforge destroyed.
>>11391514>wc3 open betaSee, this I don’t get at all. Just trash reforged, memory-hole the last 5 years, and just patch the original game for modern systems. That’s it, that’s all we ever wanted. If they want to make add-ons for new graphics after that, 8ka24fine, whatever, idc.
>>11391251It is
>>11391551They put out fake renditions portraying WC3s remaster out there then nuked them and pretended it never happened when people called them out for false advertizing. They don't care.
>>11391308i mean unless a game has a community like doom where some hyperautists keep everything updated/patched to run on newer hardware rereleases are sort of an inevitably because the average joe isn't necessarily going to hold on to a 10-20 year old computer if they don't need to.>inb4 muh files.if you're not backing up your files in 3 or 4 different places then you're playing yourself.>inb4 muh PC with upgraded parts.literally the ship of theseus.>>11391253programmers & developers don't know how to optimize because they don't see a reason to. it's how you end up with modern games being 100+ gigs.
>>11391514It's crazy how AI upscaling gets forced into everything despite being objectively, obviously dogshit in every instance.Seriously, someone find me one (1) singular instance of AI upscaling that actually looks good. In a game, a movie, anything. You can't. It always comes out looking like gloopy, glossy nonsense and destroys the original aesthetic of the art.
>>11391816>programmers & developers don't know how to optimize because they don't see a reason to. it's how you end up with modern games being 100+ gigs.Everyone's expected to have such beefy computers now, there's not much point to optimize and hardly anybody will notice if it is optimized anyways, just push that doggie doo-doo out and the masses will consoom
>>11391189>>11391249The original can be played online, and there's a widescreen modification for it. There's simply no reason to play the remasters. It doesn't even have the keyboard shortcuts for menus, and it doesn't have the option to quit out to the main menu after a mission.
>>11391856>"hardly anybody will notice if it is optimized anyways, just push that doggie doo-doo out and the masses will consoom">people seethed at bethesda & CDPR over optimization in fallout 4, starfield & cyberpunk respectivelyyou need to get off 4chan for a while and interact with people outside your bubble if you genuinely believe this.
>>11391574I can’t shake the feeling this was all a bait and switch to get people back on the always-connected, locked down battlenet reservation. They just had to wipe out the last bastions of freedom and gave them (poor) facelifts to entice people. Problem is they did a shit job with WC3; only SC got passable work bc they knew that community wouldn’t put up with less.>warcraft 3 reforged 2.0wtf is this btw? So confusing. Are they undoing reforged or adding shit to it? Updating the classic graphics, separate from refagged?
>>11391249They are 100% no AI anything. What a pathetic fucking retard lie those idiots want to peddle.>>11391189It makes WC1 and WC2 playable by those that preferred SC and how those played. Which is a good thing. WC1 was tedious to even mine. The balancing changes make sense too with the changes. Overall it is worth it as retarded fucks (like those saying the game uses AI lmfao) were too retarded to install the WC1/WC2 "HD" modded games that fixed these issues. This is a great collection, but perfect for those retards.Also WC3R 2.0 fixes are big enough to now have none of the retards (lmfao the AI people seriously?) bitch about it as well.
I just played all three for the first time ever. I was too young to play them except three but even then I was late. They are AMAZING.
>>11393923>>11393926>SAAAR DO NOT REDEEEEEEM YOU ARE BLOODY BITCH BASTERD RETAAAAAARD AAAIIIEEEEE>OOO SAARS THIS IS SO GOOOD SAAARS DO NOT REDEEMIt's all AI upscaling and generated art. It's AI so eregious that people are mocking it. Every single jewtuber including Grubby is talking about it and rather openly. The latest embarrassment is how artifacted and shit it is compared to what Hive is able to do with free AI software. On livestream and video. Across multiple platforms. Which makes it clear you're from Mumbai or some other pajeet hellscape.
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>>11393926I played them as a kid (I remember watching the Warcraft 3 teaser on my Warcraft 2 disc for ages), and I still think these are amazing. Reforged doesn’t even bother me.
>>11393923https://80.lv/articles/blizzard-is-reportedly-using-an-ai-to-generate-concept-art-for-their-games/AI has been incorporated into their pipeline retard.
>>11391189Warcraft 1>cutscenes are lower quality>No online>No mission screen animations>No mission screen font animation>New music is a shitty MIDI>Classic music option sounds like shit (No options for Sound card/Sound canvas emulation)>minimap has been shrunk down even with the classic ui>unit portraits are wrongShould I go on? Just get the originals on GOG. I will say though, War2 remastered is worth it only if you desire to play online.
