Screen Utility - https://shauninman.com/utils/screens/SoC Comparison - https://versus.com/en/mobile-chipsetGoogle chart - https://tinyurl com (slash) AllHandheldsPreviously - >>11448662
I'm going to do it. I'm going to buy this shit then return it in 30 days.
>>11457035you broke af
>>11457043Nope, but just can't justify a $1000 handheld when I already have a gayman PC.
>>11457031you lads think we'll ever get xbox emulation on android? really craving some jsrf on my mobile setup
>>11457053Xbox emu barely works on Linux as it is. Maybe in a decade and that's being generous.
>>11457053It should be possible already. We already have significantly more demanding PC games running on Android. There's even people running RPCS3 on Winlator on Android. Xbox emu devs are just lazy.
>>11457053it entirely depends on a dev spending their time on the emulator, the phones are now powerful enough
>>11457056>tfw I can't play Ninja Gaiden Black anytime soon without buying a shitbox
>>11456813>>11456817the screen is so fucking tiny ffs
>tfw setting up an android based handheld for the first timeI hate it!
>>11457067You only have to set it up once and never again, it's really not that bad. Do people also freak out about having to set up their PCs when they build/buy a new one?
>>11457070I think the Linux based stuff was just a little plug and play in comparison, I think once I get it setup I'll get used to itMostly bothered by having to constantly use the touchscreen on the 2s during all this setup but once I get it going it'll be comfy
Handholding? Silly anon, that's how babies are made
Does anyone know if the upgraded Stock OS on the anbernic rg35xx H supports a second sd card for games? The wiki on the upgraded stock OS doesnt tell me shit & russ is fucking useless. I figured this would be a basic thing to mentionin the setup instructions but nope.all i want to do is upgrade the stock os if its possible to run a second card for games too.
>>11457031truthfully I would prefer 3ds circlepads to gay ass protruding sticksthey always felt better to me than 'controller style' analog
>>11457085You're actually just wrong.
A nephew of mine got an R36s, but it's too small and they're afraid they won't know how to use it. Is there a CFW/theme that super simplifies the menu? Something like plug and play.
>>11457053>>11457056>>11457058Big problem is, since emu dev rarely ever makes money, it's development is almost entirely dependent on how how badly people wanna access a certain platform's games, and how difficult it is to access said games without emulation. Unfortunately, Xbox didn't really have any "killer apps" aside from Halo, which has already been ported to other systems (this isn't to say xbox doesn't have good games worth playing, but I'm talking about mass appeal here, and most of the good xbox exclusives aren't super well known).There's tons of people who wanna play Bloodbourne on their PC, or Breath of the Wild in 4K 60fps, or access rare/unlocalized titles like VB Wario Land or Mother 3 that they could never get through official means, but unfortunately that same enthusiasm isn't there for Blinx the Cat or Crimson Skies
>>11457085Tbf most modern systems inset the sticks so they actually don't stick out much more than a circle pad
Does anyone have a recommended case, preferably on amazon for the retroid pocket 2s? It's got a unique shape and there doesn't seem to be a proper case for it that accommodates the sticks and triggers
Which amazon usbC cords are actually good? I assume the packaged cords are junk, since I was having data transfer issues with the one that came packaged with my handheld
>>11457119I don't think you actually need to worry about accomodating the sticks and triggers too much, the system doesn't rest directly on the triggers when laid on it's back anyways. it leans on the shell. Any of these should work fine:https://www.amazon.com/s?k=retroid+pocket+2+case&crid=1LTOW5V2ES6XR&sprefix=retroid+pocket+2+case%2Caps%2C215&ref=nb_sb_noss_1>>11457124I got this 3-pack a year ago and still use em for my phone, retroid, and charging controllers, fast charge is fairly speedy too:https://a.co/d/eajtE1q
This was supposed to be a Christmas Gift for someone, I think I can overpay for another one off of amazon while I deal with returning this but the backlight bleed seems insane - this isn't normal right?RG35XX SP Anbernic Kind of bummed
>>11457146This listing doesn't seem to bad, it costs $30 extra, but since Anbernic's shipping usually adds $20 extra anyways you're not paying too much more:https://a.co/d/755En8H
>>11457147I actually got it off amazon for $68 I appreciate it, I think I will risk asking for a replacement from the same seller should arrive before ChristmasSurprisingly these are the "newer" models with the tiny metal sheet between the battery and the bottom
>>11457060same size as the DS
>>11457090https://github.com/AeolusUX/ArkOS-R3XS
>>11457031https://retrocatalog.com/
>>11457085Sliders? I actually do want to see them used on these handhelds too. Mainly because the sticks they sometimes use is hot garbage.
>>11457239It needs screen size options
>>11457218Touch zero 40 has a smaller screen than the DS, a taller 4 inch display, vs 2 3 inch displays. It is only 2 inches wide, while the DS was 2.4 inches wide.
No ultimate game boy for you. You'll have to make do with a shitty plastic version whenever they put it up
>>11457035Asus is trash
Anyone here have a Cube XX? How do you like it?
>>11457482I installed muOS on mine last night.It's definitely my favorite of the XX handhelds.
>>11457532muOS fixes the cardinal snapping right? How are the sticks?
>>11457546Ape Escape-kun...
>>11457546I'll try Ape Escape when I get home.
>>11457482It's crippled. You may recall when I said Anbernic would have to fuck up something fierce for it to end worse than the RGB30, and sure enough Max delivered again, the screen is stuck at 58hz. Knulli just went whatever and released as is as if it wasn't a problem, muOS decided instead to cap the screen at 58hz so your v-sync games run slower. Apparently Gamma fixed it yesterday along with the 34xx, but it hasn't been integrated on any CFW yet.https://github.com/TheGammaSqueeze/rgxx_boot_package_mods/tree/rgcubexxOther than that, the d-pad is pretty nice though not floating, the shoulder buttons are mushy membrane based which to me is godly, the ergo bumps feel great, face buttons are just right, start and select at bottom right suck, top IO is messy and takes some getting used to (ie pressing M+Vol to control brightness). There are missing LEDs on top right and bottom left of the RGB rings which are extremely apparent. The grippy finish on the bumps are stickers and I can already tell they're gonna get disgusting eventually. Speakers are surprisingly okay for down firing ones, looked up a teardown and they're the 35xx H's.>>11457546From what I've read, the cardinal snapping fix Gamma did was for an older kernel. The newer kernel from Anbernic has snapping dialed down and devs find it good enough.You know how little man sounded like a schizo repeatedly stating Anbernic sticks this year didn't really feel like sticks and their motion was fucked but he couldn't put it into words? He was right, this is stiff, I don't know if it's rubbing against the white cover on the stick's surface or something, but it's really bad to move compared to RGB30's, X28's or 353V's stock sticks. Other than that, didn't look too bad on input testers, slight more snapping than (ideal) Android gets, probably improves a little with hall sticks as the sticks themselves have some snapping too.
>>11457482It’s very comfortable.D-pad is nice but stiffer than I’d like. I don’t have a Genesis controller to compare to, but it takes significantly more actuation force than a 360 d-pad.Mine has some backlight bleed. More than my RGB30.The screen refreshes at 58.6 Hz instead of the usual 60 Hz, so you’ll get stutters unless you adjust emulation speed to compensate.
>>11457613Might also add, this is -not- the RGB30's screen, it's cooler in comparison.
>>11457146>this isn't normal right?No. Not at all. This one's mine with the screen protector on. It's also the newer revision.
>>11457446I have a real game boy.
>>11457690https://youtu.be/kCVUAKpqkRM
>>11457467In terms of warranty and refunds? Honestly pretty much every company is.
>>11457862Their quality control is on part with chink brands if not worse
>>11457890It honestly makes you wish that more brands like AYN and Ayaneo could establish their brands enough to set up their own western branches and hopefully give ASUS something to worry about.
>>11457035Best windows handheld.
>>11457446Dumb fomo shit. You'd be a fool to fall for it.
>>11457446Just got mine today, it really does feel great to play
>>11458246Do you really, really, really like GBC games? It's a more locked down Analogue Pocket. I just can't justify the purchase. And I could justify the purchase if it was the same thing except a Game Boy Advance.
>notice weird black spots on my Vita when it’s dark>”Oh no, the OLED burnt out!”>check online>”actually, it was like that since launch”>”Yeah, early OLEDs were just like that. Just try to avoid black areas onscreen if you can”So lemme get this straight. This OLED, device, with OLED’s main selling point being true blacks, just has random unavoidable screen rot when the screen goes black? ON LAUNCH? Thereby negating the main selling point of OLED? How does ANYONE shill this over using a Retroid device instead?
>>11458254The Vita was really good for it's time and that's why people still shill it to this day. But it's almost 2025 and anyone who still thinks it can stand against modern chinkhelds is being stubborn or a fanboy.
>>11458254Only the original model has OLEDand the green is only there when playing for a long amount of time, it disappears after being off for a few hours>>11458251I really, really like it, yesIf there were backlit screens that were actually good, I'd mod a GBC, but there isn't and the Pocket is just such poor design for a good screen and machine
>>11458261Vita is still good for PSP
>>11458254My Vita slim with an LCD screen is very nice. I would probably use it over my Retroid 5 for PSP even if I prefer my Pspgo over both of them. People buying a Vita for emulation are utterly fucking retarded having said that.
>>11458265Tbf, so are the non linux chinkhelds. 3588 could change that if everyone except gamemt weren't pansyshits about heat management.
How is the Steam Deck OLED still not on sale? Especially during the Winter sale?
>>11458264>the Pocket is just such poor design for a good screen and machineI can see this argument making sense but not by someone praising the Chromatic as an alternative.
>>11458272>why is this product in high demand at current prices not getting a price cut
>>11458254I shill phones and powkiddy over both>>11458272Same strategy as ali>Keep price the same or increase on big sale week>Drop long after big sale week is over.Works everytime.
>>11458274How so?I don’t want all in one emulation machineHave you heard the phrase jack of all, master of noneThat is this entire threadIt’s the same reason people keep buying new machines over and over againSo I decide to buy one that does everything good for this specific console
>>11458279It's awful to play with those 8bitdo clips.It's ridiculously top heavy.
>>11458035I forget the name but some company in Cali started selling the Aya handheld Pcs. However I emailed and messaged them on social medias asking what their warranty policy is and never got a response from any channel.
>>11458295I don't know if i'd say ridiculously but yeah it is off balance.
What I really really want out of a handheld is analog video output. This seems to be a huge hole in the market. They all have HDMI output but what I want is 240p RGB/Component/Composite video out. That and two normal USB 3.0 ports for plugging X-input controllers into. So in addition to using it as a handheld it's an all-in-one 240p on a CRT emulation solution.
>>11458363I don't see why one of these adapters the Misterfags use wouldn't work. I also don't understand how you have access to enough CRTs to not just use a Wii or Mister.
>>11458363I've seen people ask devs for super res 240p from HDMI a few times, I think it's impossible.
>>11458365These adaptershttps://www.retrorgb.com/mister-240p-over-hdmi.html
>>11458363I believe this is possible with a PiBoy.
>>11457031>worst way to play VBsad :c>>11457446the plastic version is still 200USD keki would scream, there is still a few locally herebut i cant say that im interested enough in buying
>>11458279is anyone going to tell him normal controllers exist?that we have wireless controllers now?
>>11458369I just looked at some of Rockchip's data sheets and it doesn't seem to be a supported mode. >>11458370This will only work if you can get the video hardware to output a 240p resolution.An FPGA-based handheld might be able to do it.Famiclones and other SOC console clones sometimes have composite video output. They could probably be modded for RGB output.
>>11458254It's the mura affect or whatever, yeah. Even my RP5 has it a bit as well. The only OLED I haven't seen anything on was the one in the RG556.
>>11458269The Slim's screen looks surprisingly great after doing the color boost plugin.
>>11458374All of those controllers are wireless anon
>>11458254>device from 2011 has a small issuekek anon plsalthough i dont think most devices have a screen that egregious
Brickbros report in
>Same screen as the brick>Same specs as the flip>Sticks click for ape escape>Mini/+/Pocketgo s30 dpad.Well?
>>11458392>DEY R WIRELEISS>BUT I COOMNECTED DEMtrolling outside of \b\ is a 3day vacation from 4chinz anon
>>11458401e w a s t e
I just discovered another reason to hate the glass front on the new Retroids: it makes it hard as FUCK to take the rear shell off for customization/repair since there's no buffer between it and the glass panel.
>>11458402Not even the op. I’m just a wiz at chink mobile controllers.>>11458406I’m glad miyoo’s using rockchip again, but wtf is this supposed to be? Miyoo buyers don’t seem the type that like verticals with sticks, it probably be more expensive than a powkiddy, and brick users already have the brick.
>>11458363Humorously enough, I recently caved-in and bought the K101 that has that same video-out you're talking about. Don't know how much use I'll get out of it since I'm just gonna use it as a handheld mostly, but it's funny that it has it.
>>11458420Video out was a normal feature when anbernic used mips. The rpplus and rs97 also had video out as they were made from reused k101 parts.
I was thinking about buying pic related so I could turn my Galaxy Tab S9 into a veritable Steam Deck/retro emulation machine. Anyone have experience with these tablet controller things? I bought a Gamesir XBOX controller a little over a year ago and the thing has really grown on me, so this seems like an ideal trinket to pick up. $70 isn't too bad of an asking price either (assuming it isn't a piece of shit).
>>11458401HOLY FUCKIGN KINOGRAPHY
>>11458401When it comes to verts I see no reason to buy anything other than an RG406V.
>>11458401Awesome for Ape Escape
what's with the ape escape meme
>>11458532An anon thinks a chinkheld cant truly be perfect for ps1 unless the sticks click for ape escape
>>11458541we should zap that anon with a raygun and erase them from existence
>>11458506Verticals will be interesting again once they have ridiculously high res screens, aren't fat and run Vulkan. Basically mass market versions of the Pocket DMG.
>>11458554Fat handhelds are the best. They are actually comfortable to play for more than 15 minutes at a time.
>>11457031Having gone over the docs, I don't see any particular reason to get a RP5 over a RP4Pro, on the grounds that I don't care for Switch (I already have one) or anything more demanding than PS2. Is there something I'm missing or should I just get a 4Pro?
>>11458541I think that, it's been my go to qualifier for controllers for years now.Though admittedly that hasn't been a concern for 10 years or so.
>>11458625Linux, so Xbox and I think box64.
>>11458630I can't find anything that suggests RP5 can run Xbox decently though, all the footage looks horrific.
>>11458638It’s still a wip, but I doubt it’ll improve
>>11458641I mean there's few things I'd want for Xbox other than NGB and I'd be absolutely astonished if it could run that well. I think I'd be better off getting the 4Pro and then waiting for the next one or whatever can run Xbox well.
>>11458641And if it does improve, it'll be at a time when the RP5 costs less.No reason not to wait.
After wasting my day tweaking shaders and screen ratios on my Cube XX, I got tired of the lack of performance.Going back to my GOAT.
>>11458656would you like to try my n64 shader preset?
>>11458659Why not?
>>11458656what do you think of the brickmine is coming in before christmas
>>11458668It's way better than the Miyoo Mini.I still prefer the RG35XX Plus for the size.Maybe when we get better cfw on it, it'll be better.
>>11458672Doesn’t knulli work now?
>>11458676Never used Knulli. It scares me.
I'm glad that I'm not the only maniac that likes Circle pads. Shame about Gape Escape though.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bIgugX2gODEThat M-Con thing intended for phones has gone through a bunch of design changes.>stacked shoulders>hall effect sticks in a recessed well>fold-out grips>much smarter magsafe implementation>now has a snap-out "crane" design instead of the Sony Xperia Play sliding design (kinda sad about this one)
>>11458696Shell craftmanship and texture? Are they talking about an actual clamshell or is it just talking about how they'll try and make their plastics feel Nintendo quality? Because a budget RP Flip sounds cool.
>>11458730It looks interesting but I'll wait for people to actually get their hands on it and say whether it's properly sturdy or not and if the buttons are good. Controllers like these are hard to not make feel like wobbly shit. And the magnet has to be really good too.
>>11458730It's still super fucking thick. Would probably have to detach it and store it in the opposite pocket. I don't know why they moved away from circle pads, if they were concerned about the stick click then they could have put back buttons that are mapped to L3/R3. Will definitely buy it once they make this inevitable slim variant.
>>11458742>if they were concerned about the stick click then they could have put back buttons that are mapped to L3/R3Even the RP Flip had clickable hall sensors somehow. They weren't as comfortable as a clickable sticks, but they still got the job done.
>>11458736SP is their clamshell line. Only two numbers means it's a single screen instead of four for a DS-like.
Do you guys have any recommendations for a good controller to go along with my RP5?
>A30 would meet my needs, I like the design/theming of the Famicom variant and the price is especially nice but I'm worried I'm going to get some shitty washed out screen like most chinkhelds I've used>Brick has a guaranteed nicer screen but no stick for source ports, can't imagine playing shit like OoT and SM64 on a dpad>RGB30 is also an option I suppose, screen looks nice from what I've seen and it has a dpad. Not that much more pricey than the A30>Don't want to buy anything else because I don't need anything more powerful and would prefer a 4:3 device (or close to in the case of the RGB30) because of it and the higher end chinkhelds are all Android only where I prefer Linux as just being a dedicated OS build to do what chinkhelds were designed to do - play vidyaI'd say I'm tempted to wait and see what Taki's cooking up for his handheld MiSTer but literally no one knows when that shit's happening.
>>11457665Well fingers crossed the new one isn't fucked up like that
>>11458783>A30I got one for 28$ and honestly very cool if you can find one on ali express I don't see why not. The screen obviously isn't as nice as something like the TSP.I'd post a comparison picture but it's already been wrapped up.
>>11458783>RGB30How about the RP2S?
>>11457890I've used tons of ASUS products and hardware and their QC isn't anymore egregious and Lenovo, HP, or Dell.
>>11458805Retroidbro... The 2s was discontinued for like a week
>>11458813ohI just got mine from the recent sale so I'm glad there isn't any visible problems, I think I'm a big fan despite having a few retroarch issues which are probably not the devices fault
What could a retroid 6 bring to the table?
Originally got an RG35XX in 2023, got me addicted to the current state of chinkhelds after dismissing them almost thirty decades as being "cheap Chinese knockoffs" like those fucking "PVP" PSP clones that only played twenty bootleg NES games made out of gumball machine plastics.Ironically my next would be the R35S, then ordering the R36S before my R35S even arrived in the mail.This year I've been enjoying the RG28XX a lot despite always being a vertibro due to the GameBoy Pocket, GBC, and GBA SP.The RG34XX looks like a fucking stupid joke and completely redundant with the SEVEN other Allwinner handhelds Anbernic has recently put out in the past year. HOWEVER... The Powkiddy V10 looks like a perfect version of the Anbernic RG34XX in a vertical form factor.Before I ever got the original RG35XX, the only viable chinkheld I had ever heard of prior was the RG280V due to how much it was being spammed on /v/ three years ago for being able to "'flawlessly' play PS1 games in your pocket for under $100!". I was interested at the time, but its size, actual performance, and price were 3much5me. That og RG35XX being in the GameBoy Pocket's almost exact form factor and being under $70 is what made me finally cave. My issue is... do I really want a Powkiddy V10 when I am already so happy with my RG28XX? The V10 would basically be the "ideal" version of that original Anbernic RG280V that I originally wanted but never got. It has that perfect 3:2 screen for GBA titles. It comes in a better form factor for half the price. But I don't just wanna buy Chinese shit just for the sake of trying it and owning it, I wanna actually use it, and I don't know if I would be using the V10 over the RG28XX.Ideally I would upgrade to the MagicX Mini Zero 28 which seemed like the ideal, ultimate upgrade to the RG28XX. But who knows when the fuck that will ever come out at this point, it just went from a November release to a questionable maybe January? It's as ridiculous as the Miyoo Mini Flip
>>11458815I’m more surprised some people legit thought the mini wasn’t its replacement.>>11458816Uhh... Budget windows?
>>11458835>mini>200 dollars>rp2s>99 dollars>different form factor
>>11458842Not the point. If retroid wants the mini to replace the 2s, it means the 2s is outta here. That’s how it is for every chink company except anbernic since they have an endless supply of those shit mips chips so you still see them selling those pap handhelds.
>>11458848How long can I expect the RP2S to last if I take care of it? It's my first RP device and I'm kind of a fan now
>>11458851Retroid doesn’t use bad emmc’s like the original 2 days, so that won’t die on you. They only started getting weird with battery replacements starting with the 3’s shell and anything trigger than that, so you can replace the battery without soldering different parts if it shits itself.
What chinkheld is that on the left? Looks perfect
>>11458935Think it’s the retropixel pocket
>>11457031>$126 for a modded switch liteis this a steal?
>>11459015Does it actually work?
Is there a way to use my Odin 2 with an external controller, but also keep the built in controls working at the same time? So I don't have to keep remapping them?
>>11459021work perfectly fine for me
>>11458730Too thicc now. Not buying.
>>11459015It's a fair price. You can get a switch lite for 100 used. The mod chip costs almost nothing so you saved time on installation.
>>11458254>>”actually, it was like that since launch”can confirm. My friend gave me his since he wanted the white one. He only had the black one for like 6 months. It had the black spots on it already. When the picture is moving you don't notice it, but it fades to black, it can be noticeable.Tbqh, I don't use it for anything other than Vita gayming.
>>11459015Depends on if it's online banned or not, but otherwise that's a very fair price for something pre-modded.
Anbernic is due for a release in a week or two.
>>11459484Should be that ugly new UMPC, right?
>>11459484Oh hell no, not again
>2024>JanRG-35XX H>MarRG-35RG-556>AprRG-28XX>MayRG-35XX SP>JunRG Cube>JulyRG-40XX H>AugRG-40XX V>SepRG-406V>OctRG Cube XX>DecRG-34XXRG-406H
>>11458730I've always wanted something like this but it's just way too thick as it is. They should have copied the psp go.
what's the best bang for the buck chinkheld in your opinion?
>>11459678The TSP or the 2S.
Ignore anybody telling you the 2S. That shit isn't available anymore and any used listings currently go for more than it's original price.
>>11459687Didn't know it was out of stock. Guess the Black Friday deal really cleaned them out.
Now that the dust has settled, what's the verdict on RP5?
>>11459494Is the best of the year for Anbernic the SP, 406H or other?
RP5 leaves me wondering what did it improve over the RP4Pro?
>>11459724>>11459737Dual booting into Linux and having portmaster make it my favorite chinkheld now.
>>11459737A vastly superior screen.
>>11459746I haven't bothered setting up Linux yet because I was waiting for the kinks to be worked out. How is battery life, sleep mode etc? Does the Portmaster stuff just werk? Everyone hates Android but having access to some sixth gen games that are otherwise unplayable with native Android ports like KOTOR and Strangers Wrath is a huge plus to me.
>>11459756Only a few braindead idiots that are still clinging to the ancient "muh Android lag" meme hate Android.Everyone else knows it's the superior OS for emulation.
>>11458935Man the thumbstick on the pocket dmg looks awful. If you have to put it in such an terrible position just don't include it at all.
>>11458935
>>11459769That is fascinating. Would you care to post some side by side comparisons that show that Android is lag free compared to Linux? I don't care about input lag because I don't play reflex heavy games on handheld.
>>11459769Android handhelds offer the exact same experience as sticking a controller attachment to your phone, at which point you're just better of upgrading it if it can't run the games that you want to run.>b-b-but!Yes, I know all of the arguments that people bring up in defense of dedicated Android handhelds. None of them are very good. An attachment never takes more space than a dedicated handheld. If you can carry both a phone and a handheld you can carry both a phone and a controller attachment. Yes, phones are fanless. Retro emulation performance does not benefit from fans. No, not even PS2. No, it's not gonna kill your battery fast and if it does, replacing it is cheaper than buying a handheld. But at that point you'd probably want a new phone anyway.>but I gotta waste twenty seconds of my life to put that controller attachment on each time!And you'd waste way more trying and failing to shoehorn Android into a gaming-focused OS through the use of launchers and the like. There is no way to set up a key binding to change the screen brightness in Android FFS.Linux, while maybe not better, is at least different enough to feel like something new. It's fun to tinker with (just like desktop Linux lol) and most Linux handhelds cost peanuts so they're easier to justify as a frivolous purchase.
>>11459860I use mine to play games and like it.>It's fun to tinker with (just like desktop Linux lol)Ah, I see
>>11459860>Android handhelds offer the exact same experience as sticking a controller attachment to your phonenope. detachable controls will never be as good as a proper handheld. not just because the controls are on the PCB rather than going through a USB-C port/wireless, but because detachable controls NEVER EVERfeel as good as a unified shell fuck the switch. phones also have the issue of most having 21:9 screen ratios and fucking a sidefiring speaker after you clip/mount/whatever it to your controls.
>>11458363All the dirt cheap ones have composite.Just buy the data frog handheld
>>11459860>Linux, while maybe not better, is at least different enough to feel like something new.The Analogue Pocket is far more different than Android vs Linux and nobody considers this a positive. Linux nerds are insufferable.
>>11458696Hype but what is this
>>11459884>OS where you can do uhhhhhhYeah no idea why no one cares
>>11459884because it's a $250 + tip vertislop muttheld.
>>11459880>not just because the controls are on the PCB rather than going through a USB-C port/wirelessUSB-C is the exact same as controls on the PCB. Those controls are attached through a USB interface internally. SoCs literally have pads for USB connections coming out of them.>https://antmicro.com/blog/2022/04/open-source-snapdragon-845-baseboard/>The SA800U-WF SoM offers two independent USB 3.1 interfaces. The Snapdragon 845 Baseboard exposes them on separate USB-C connectors. One of them acts as a generic downstream-facing-port suitable for connecting peripheral interfaces such as USB modems, touch panels, RFID/barcode readers or mass-storage devices.>detachable controls NEVER>EVER>feel as good as a unified shell fuck the switchOn its own, this statement is true, BUT you have access to better controller attachments than anything chinks could ever afford to put on their devices. People praise the Retroid D-pad, for example, but the one in Xbox Series controllers is way better and you can easily attach it to your phone using dedicated clips and a USB-C to USB-C cable.>phones also have the issue of most having 21:9 screen ratiosThe aspect ratio argument makes sense to an extent, but there are handheld devices out there that have very bad screen-to-body ratio like Retroid Pocket Mini. Some emulators are also starting to include support for ultra-wide widescreen hacks.>and fucking a sidefiring speaker after you clip/mount/whatever it to your controls.I don't use speakers, only headphones. I think that playing music out loud in public is stupid and playing on a handheld like that is no different.
>>11459884Analogue is the Apple of chinkhelds (I don't mean it as a compliment). Of course Linux nerds don't like it.
>>11459915These SoCs also have general I/O pins, which is what you use for buttons otherwise you need to add an additional USB controller to send the button presses through USB in the first place.
>>11459847No one can even post a comparison that shows android lags at all more than linux lol
>>11459920Do chinkheld (specifically Androind chikheld) manufacturs really use these? Doesn't that involve writing their own drivers for the Linux kernel? I imagine they would just use some cheap micro-controller that converts button presses into a USB controller signal.
>>11459927From my experience: it doesn't. Both lag more than PC, which itself lags more than real hardware on a CRT.
>>11459927I don't doubt that it does, but it most certainly will be imperceptible to humans. Sort of like autists who insist they can't play on anything other than mister lol
>>11459930That's what Hardkernel did for the Odroid Go Advance: https://github.com/hardkernel/linux/blob/73c2cbdb49d240c408bd16a717215c1d4bed529f/drivers/input/joystick/odroidgo2-joypad.cAnd the OGA served as basis for all the chink RK3326 handhelds, so they could simply take and adapt their code.
>>11459942That's not Android, though. I meant a Linux kernel driver that runs in Android. Android also uses the Linux kernel.
Went full retard today and bought a shit load of Game Boy and Game Boy Color games to play on my Chromatic. Probably going to need to buy some of those battery clips and a bunch of batteries, because I'm betting that none of the batteries in these fuckers work.
>>11459927There used to be a testing spreadsheet that showed like half a frame difference at most between loonix and goydroid on the same held (basically just the 353 series). who knows how reliable it is, but not a big difference really. some androidhelds like the original pre-latency patch Odin 1 are definitely WAY out there and you don't need a measurement to realize shit is a bit fucked, though.
Are the Trimui set the best budget chinkhelds of 2024?
>>11459946>Android also uses the Linux kernel.And you have a driver for the Linux kernel.Where's the problem?
>>11459956The problem is that RK3326 doesn't run Android and that just because one company (who did stuff quite different than Chinese manufacturers to begin with and suffered for it) used that approach doesn't mean that Anbernic or Retroid does. Chinks are really, really bad at software development, which is why they just copy existing stuff.
>>11459950If you like doing all that and playing using original carts and all that, more power to 'ya fren, but at that point I'd have just gotten a flash cart to be quite desu with you.
>>11459997I have an Everdrive, but mine doesn't work with the Chromatic (the GB X7 FPGA V06 specifically doesn't work with it right now, though they will probably fix it in the future). I could have just bought a new Everdrive or waited for them to fix the problem, but I was kind of wanting to expand my Game Boy collection anyway.
>>11459992>The problem is that RK3326 doesn't run AndroidBut it does.There's an Android ROM for the OGA.>which is why they just copy existing stuff.And there is existing stuff to copy
Newfag reporting in.What babby's first handheld should I get? I'm deciding between 35XX SP or the Miyoo Mini+I appreciate clamshell but not if the look or feel is considerably worse.
>>11460005Does it not?I’ve seen people playing everdrives with theirsAnyway what you playing, I’m surprised my old Pokémon TCG save battery still works so I’m playing that
>>11459484hope it's cubexx equivalent of the 406h
>>11460028>I’ve seen people playing everdrives with theirsYeah, most do work, but not the GB X7 with FPGA V06, specifically. Basically the units that were made around 2022, they have since started using FPGA V07, which works fine for the most part (some people are having save state issues I think).
>>11460026The SP is the most shilled so probably that one
What are you guys playing this weekend? I just finished castlevania order of ecclesia, it is as good as I remember>>11460026the 'nig is very solid with the electrical tape mod
>>11459678RG35XX-H, Trimui Smart Pro, RG35XX-SP, RG40XX-H, or the Trimui Brick. Maybe the Miyoo Mini too.In general all of these have good sizes, extremely reasonable prices ($50 range), are all pocketable with the TSP being on the tail end of that, all have good CFW solutions, and all play everything you want up to DC, Saturn, N64, and PSP. They also can all be slept easily. The games they do play all conform to that form factor and you're able to pick up and play for short bursts without issues. Most importantly they're Linux-based so fixing issues is fairly reasonable to do, they have access to Portmaster, and the emulators they have are the best available instead of outdated ports to Android.35-H because it's got a solid form factor and plays what you would want in that form factor. It feels premium in terms of the plastic, it's got solid CFW choices, and it's extremely pocketable.35-SP because it's just the H in an SP format with a far better sleep even if you give up analog sticks.40-H because it's just a better 35-H in terms of performance and ergonomics, the only downside is the heating situation.TSP because it's got that nice PSP form factor, a nice screen, and fairly nice buttons even if it feels cheap.TB because it's the TSP but in vertical form, and if you want that vertical form it's a nice upgrade over the MM, but if you want the MM's size and price then just go for that.I've only gotten into this space because I wanted something where I could back up my saves and take screenshots and have been researching/buying various things and this is where I'm personally standing with regards to what I think is worth it for that lower end price point. I don't personally like Android handhelds and I don't personally think there's a point in getting something like the RP5 when for $100 more the SD is right there playing significantly more than it with far more support, better programs, and the games from those eras aren't as "pick up and play".
Oh, are you guys still buying Chinese handhelds? Yeah I’ve moved on. With this custom fitted 3d printed stencil I get button-like haptic feedback on my phone without the bulk. Enjoy your handhelds, cretins.
>>11459950Yeah, gotta have genuine Nintendo carts to play on my GameStop bootleg gameboy. Only the authentic experience here.
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>>11460083/hhg/ Is this Russ approved?
>>11460096It will be when he gets send a free 3d printer.
Got the Ayaneo Pocket Evo and I mostly like it. Postan thoughts>Feels very nice and comfortable to hold, especially since I have larger hands. No problems with the controls, I like the larger analog sticks, and you can easily lift them off and replace them in case the plastic on top starts to wear out>7" OLED display looks nice and pretty to me. 4:3 content isn't annoying to game with compared to devices with smaller screens.>Speakers are better than prior Ayaneo products for certain, but still not what I'd call "great". This company just can't quite nail down the sound for some reason and they still love downfiring speakers, disappointing for a device costing $389 on the lower end. Wouldn't be a problem if they didn't get rid of the FUCKING HEADPHONE JACK>Beyond that build quality is definitely there and feels "premium". Still not sure if I'd take it everywhere though because of the glass front, like with the RP Mini/5 and the Odin Portal, a single drop means a fucked up device.>Performance seems there, Um Jammer Lammy doesn't seem to lag on Duckstation whenever you get a bad score like I encountered on T618 or other Dimensity devices, not sure if its because of better optimizations on Snapdragon or just the power of the G3x Gen 2. Shadow the Hedgehog on the official Dolphin app also doesn't seem to lag like crazy with explosions on the first stage like it did on the Pocket Air with its D1200.>On the other hand, performance is still emulator reliant. I tried Gran Turismo 4 on an old AetherSX2 version (1.5-3668) at 2.75x to be conservative and it still lagged on the Seattle arcade stage. Gonna try replacing it with NetherSX2 to see if it helps any.tl;dr don't regret it and fairly happy, but has some annoying quirks. Not sure if I'll get any more android devices, this feels like we're nearing the end point for retro emulation on ARM far as I'm concerned. Not enough good Android games to make use of the power either.
>>11459790The fact that it has the power to emulate Switch but is unsuitable to emulate GCN/PS2 is fucking insane.
>>11460083It's a cute idea, but I need the tactile feedback of buttons. Haptics don't cut it imo.
Yep, I'm a Joey guy
>>11460086Why does this anger you so much?because money?
>>11460190He's angy because palmer voted for Trump
>>11460026I would go sp. The miyoo is not some premium device.>>11460067Nice I've been playing some castlevania too. Got the dominus collection and playing portrait of ruin.>>11460123It doesn't have a headphone jack? Dumb move.I'm waiting for the portal myself. Plan to make that my go to ps2 device.
>>11460083Completely missing the point and genuinely making it worse for yourself on already inferior inputs, just get a fucking phone controller.
So the consensus is that the 406V/H on sale are the best handhelds from a price-to-performance perspective?
>>11460206Post your thoughts on the Portal when you get it. The lower price and headphone jack are tempting, but it doesn't look as comfortable in comparison to hold.
The trimui brick is so small wtf
Got myself a christmas bonus, do I treat myself to a RP5 or wait for a better one?
>>11460310You buy whatever your bonus's dollar worth would be in pizzas. From some schlop too, like Domino's or Little Caesar's.
>>11460310That or the Odin 2
>>11460314based.
>>11460297I told you guys.It's too small.35XX Plus is the best size.
>>11460319gayme = gaypizzer = penis in her
>>11460314im trying to lose weight, I cant be eating food now
>>11460319>will vanish in 30 minutesI wishit goes straight to my fat gut and it won't leave until I starve myself in my next round of crippling depression
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>>11460297>>11460320The 35XX Plus and MM+ are too wide for comfortable one-handed gaming. The Brick is still small enough for one-handed use while also being bigger and having a better screen than the original MM.
>>11460396...You might just have small hands
>>11460402Nigger, the 35XX Plus is wider than even modern smartphones. Try grabbing your phone right now and moving your thumb to the opposite end. The Plus goes further than that.
>>11460406I use an S24 Ultra. And yeah, my thumb reaches across.
Why is Powkiddy allergic to putting wifi on their devices?
>>11460297I refuse to believe you bought that without even looking the only youutuber that makes handheld reviews, Russ says it was pretty small and compared it to other devices and you've seen Russ he is a small man that I can probably break his back with my knee
>>11460319>have build in innate desire to eat
Vertichads eating good lately.Trimui and Miyoo Mini are tranny tier though.
>>11460457Is that a 406v or a 405v? What do you think of it?
>>11460460406vIt's my favorite device.
>>11460461How are the shoulder buttons and the speakers? Hows performance?
>>11460457I don't understand the point of non-pocketable verticals. If you're going to have a big carry-on/stay at home device, wouldn't you want it to be as comfortable as possible? So why not just get a horizontal with stacked shoulders and grips?
>>11460468Better for playing lying down on your side.
>>11460463I'll admit, the speakers are very muffled and poor for the price-range. Performance is great. >>11460468I find verticals more comfortable.
>>11460457How's the dpad on the Brick? Some people say it's fatiguing
>>11460473this is why i'm going to try a vertical next aliexpress sale
>>11460483If it's the same one as on the TSP, it's very good and punching above its weight class compared to other d-pads in the price range. Very nice dome style d-pad, I've had no issues with it.
>>11460483It doesn't sink far enough into the shell when using it. So you naturally press it harder than you need too, due to muscle memory.
>>11460468I wear jnco jeans so everything is pocketable
Which is less demanding, Beetle or Swan/Duckstation?
>>11460515Duckstation is on my bad side today because it rendered all my save states obsolete. I had everything on memory cards, but it was still annoying to lose those.
