>best magic stat but worse Limits>early weapon with 255% accuracy making Deathblow useful but very first boss after his acquirement is healed by his attacks causing a horrible first impression>ultimate weapon is technically OP but it takes 30k deaths to make so>only 4 Limits compared to all other characters' 8>has faaaar less story moments than the other optional party member, you literally go inside a waterfall twice and call it a day>is turned into a tryhard emo edgy boy in the Compilation, his personal game (Dirge) is shitHaving a soft spot for OG Vincent is suffering
>>11480732His story is more read between the lines than in your face. Like it's pretty obvious that he's Sephiroths biological father, but the game never outright states this.
>>11480792I wouldnt say its obvious. I always thought vincent was a natural cuck and hojo is the one who actually fucks her. at most its open to interpretationalso the limit isnt really an issue, just load him up with materia and dont use attack.
>>11480732>vincent >cidedgy cool kid team>tifa>yuffiecoomer squad>red xiii>cait sithfurfag's choicewhat team are you picking, anon?
>>11480828Cloud/Tifa/BarretTHERE AIN'T NO GETTIN' OFF THIS TRAIN WE ON
>>11480792If anything it is more implied that Hojo is his father, since the original game is terribly written and felt the need to have Hojo tied to absolutely every plotline and in every single flashback. I don't even know why Vincent is in the game. He is far more lore relevant than most of the cast, and yet acts even more distant than the others do even when near characters that he should be extremely invested or knowledgeable in. Nothing about his setup or lore sounds optional, and he could have shed so much light to the party on what was going on, but instead he just exists and the game never makes any attempt at trying to make his addition to your party make sense.
>>11480841What's real stupid is the "remake/rebuild" doesn't even attempt to fix this or make him more relevant
>>11480832this was my first ever party as well. just felt right keeping og avalanche together.then I became a coomer and replaced barrett with yuffie and to this day I cant bring myself to use anyone else.
>>11480842of all the many, many things the demakes do wrong, this is an underrated one. no playable vincent or cid for the whole game is beyond retarded. lets just bloat everything up but deny key aspects like fucking beloved party members and ruin the fucking story. REEE I HATE NOMURA SO MUCH
>>11480828I always use Cid/Vincent/Barret for the Huge Materia quest while Cloud's all schizo in Mideel and Tifa's taking care of him
>>11480854The game was already well underway by the time Nomura got his name stuck onto it. I recall CyberConnect being contracted to make it first. Nomura was likely handed a half-finished game and told to wrap it up quick the same way they handed his off to TabataA lot of office politics and internal wars at SE since Sakaguchi left has sabotaged almost every project they've started for 20 years now
>>11480828play FFVII new threat and after you get to crater you can use aeris/tifa/yuffie as your full team. was like a dream come true for me, full waifu squad at last.
>>11480896I sincerely doubt CyberConnect came up with the the time ghosts all on their own
>>11480896problem with this theory is that all the fanfic bullshit REEKS of nomura's scent. anyone who's tried playing kingdom hearts can attest to this
>>11480732Magic is largely useless when everyone punches like a truck
Here's a theory:The devs always said that Ultimecia was supposed to be in VII originally. Maybe Lucrecia was supposed to be Ultimecia and Vincent her guard?
>>11480912Nah, that's Kitase's doing.
Will he be playable in part 3
>>11481046Yep, you can play him on the third CD
>>11481010>focus on respecting the originalno they fucking did NOT do that. fuck everyone at square enix. they should all be shitcanned for allowing this travesty to happen.
>>11481061I totally agree, but consider if they made a perfect 1:1 remake with better graphics and audio you'd still bitch.
>>11481290no I wouldnt, 1:1 is what I wanted from the very start. the music and visuals in demake are the only things they did right, itd be the perfect game to me if it was 1:1. fuck this shitty argument.
>>11481294That's what I wanted, but I had just come out of the Pixel Remaster thread where people were bitching about getting 1:1 remakes because "it's not the original."
>>11481290Yeah all those people bitching about REmake or Phantasia PSX
I've never used Vincent at all and never used Cait Sith outside any mandatory moments.
>>11480828Furchad team of course
>>11481487i hate how blue mage is seemingly always made to be some amorphous blob, or an unlikable retard, or bothpossibly the coolest, most interesting FF class, and its as if theyre trying to get me to never even try it which obviously further de-incentivizes using them, as you miss all the cool spellsvincent got off easy by comparisonhes actually pretty good in fights, but hes completely out of the way to get, and just bland and nothing once hes in your party. even though hes clearly very much intertwined with the story, he just doesnt fucking add anything once hes there. the guy could probably pronounce an ellipsis
>>11481526Best Blue Mage coming through
>>11480828For me, it’s Tifa/Cloud/Cid.
>>11481526quistis and quina are both BASED
FINE you guys fucking win, I’ll go play FF7 again.
>>11480828When I was a kid, I had Vincent and Cait Sith. What does that make me?
>>11481290motherfucker back then everyone wanted a 1 to 1 similar to super mario rpg remake. some gameplay tweaks and additions while keeping the story and flow the same.No one who played og back then ever thought "i want time ghosts" or any other story changing kingdom hearts bullshit.The only people who say they wanted a different story now are contrarian zoomer late millennials who didnt play it growing up.
>>11481297>one retarded thread>reads one retarded post>"bu but this guy said 1:1 is bad"
>>11480732>>best magic statHis is around Cait Sith's and well below Cloud's which is well below Aerith's. If Cloud wasn't your mage you were dumb as bricks, you have multiple good physical attackers and one Cloud.
>>11480732he was already an edgy emo in the og game
>>11481526Cait Sith is a roller, not a blue mage. You got Enemy Skill for your blue magic needs.
>>11480828>tifa and yuffieIf only we could have kicked Cloud out of the party and added Elena instead, the game would've been perfect.
>>11480841>Second disc is about gambling FF VII doesn't take itself seriously
>>11480950Magic is 100% useless in the endgame when you can spam Limit Breaks and Knights of the Round to your heart’s content using Mime. But before getting Mime using stuff like W-Summon and Quadra Magic is actually pretty efficient.
>>11482301But he was 90s emo, it's why his Limits are sick stuff like pic related.2000s Nomura emo is way lamer. See all his redesigned Dirge weapons or Limits. It's all just spiky nonsense, a Japanese PoP Warrior Within but on steroids and with a Kingdom Hearts undertone
>>11482792>2000s Nomura emo is way lamer. See all his redesigned Dirge weapons or Limits.he was thirsting for Gackt waaay too fucking hard
>>11482792>But he was 90s emoHe was something that didn't exist?
>>11480732try having a soft spot for this character. she doesn't have anything later that ruins her but nobody uses her anyway because of her design. and those who do just write her off because "gale force doesn't give exp" (it does) and she's a more defensive character in a game that rewards hyper-offense. tbf she's also the least relevant to the story, even in her own chapter she's just a side character to the punies.>>11480828tifa/yuffie but for non coomer reasons. tifa for the lifestream sequence is really sweet, yuffie because all of her sidequests are interesting.
>>11482792People who have just turned 18 need to stop referencing things they have no idea about.
>>11483215>>11483329You sound mad
>>11482301>>11482792>>11483215>>11483329OG Vincent is a takeoff from the brief phase where the alternative scene had vampire/goth aesthetics. You see plenty modern goth vampire-related media and characters appearing around this time until the mid-2000s when Twilight took off and ruined vampires forever in terms of being "cool."Vincent since then has basically been emo, or more like some combining of Cloud and Squall into some edgy depressed apathetic "cool guy." Too bad he's not interesting.
>>11483156In his defense name a single Japanese person who wasn't hard thirsting for Gackt during that time
I permanently benched Vincent after his limit form kept healing the Materia Keeper. The devs 100% made that boss fire immune on purpose
>>11483238She's the best partner for the pit, Gale force instakills the majority of enemies near the bottom of pit
>>11481526I'm like this with Mime, such a cool (if OP) concept yet it's always hidden by tons of grind (FFT, Bravely, FFX) or is a well-buried lategame secret (5, 6, 7). Yes being able to copy things for free is strong but by the time you get it there's no reason to have it.
>>11480828First as an edgy cool kid, second as a lonely adult.
>>11483674and lip lock and dodgy fog + both pretty luckies make bonetail a cinch. lip lock in general is kinda cracked, definitely makes her the best frontline tank.
>>11483475Goths were around since early 400s but the subculture didn't exist till 20th century owo
>>11480912That's basically Square's trademark. They've had sci-fi elements, ridiculous convoluted time travel plots, and twist endings since FF1.
>>11480732I like his limits, as a kid who's running from every battle to get to the next plot beat, having a dude who'd heal himself, raise his health and fire off powerful attacks was cool as hellbut yeah if you're playing for challenge or collecting stuff then he's trash
>>11480792>Obvious that he is Sephiroth's fatherNo it isn't. You are thinking with... I don't know what flavor of goggles.Vincent is a Turk found in a spooky house who transformes into monsters. He had something done to him by Hojo. EVERYTHING ELSE is tacked on in later Square cashgrabs.
>>11485750>Vincent is a Turk found in a spooky house who transformes into monsters. He had something done to him by Hojo. EVERYTHING ELSE is tacked on in later Square cashgrabs.It's spelled out explicitly. It's either in Lucrecia's memories as you're getting Vincent's last limit break or in the recordings in the house in Icicle Inn. There's even literally a scene where young Vincent gets cucked.It's not explicitly stated that Hojo is Sephiroth's father, but it's seems obvious.
>>11480828Cloud/Cid/Barret brosquad
>>11485773this screenshot is so fucking funny. the chad hojo vs. the virgin vincent
>>11484658just ran through it today and lucky day/both happy heart (p) badges help a lot too if you can afford it, barely even had to use any of my healing items. maybe i should've taken some power punches and zess dynamite instead.
>>11483238I love her house. Sometimes I'll go in there and just hang out. She's an actress so she has expensive tastes
>>11484107At least in FF6 it's balanced out by the fact that it's limited to a single character, and said character has garbage stats and equipment, so only a single attack can be Mimicked per turn, and he can never Mimic the attack as well as the original user can.
>>11487142I absolutely love how Hojo just gives absolutely zero fucks and does whatever he wants. He exudes such carefree confidence that he feels completely at ease when your party finds him getting a tan and drowning in pussy at the beach, and they don't do shit about it despite him being a high-profile Shinra employee who just tried to breed Aerith with Red XIII.
>>11487142>>11487275
>>11487275Same scene from the Ever Crisis gacha game. God, I WISH this was how the actual remake looked.
>>11487280its a fucking GACHA?@@!how the fuck have we fallen SO far. I pray to god SE goes bankrupt, fuck them.
>>11487280i'm waiting for modders to port those models to the pc version of ff7
>>11487280>two delicious brown women and an Asian cutie with bangsThe bastards got good taste
>>11480827Do you really think that Lucrecia had the stomach to approach Hojo, in that way?
>>11480841It's not "terribly written", but the fact is that they dared to translate the game from the *holy sacred untranslatable language* to the one used by mere mortals, not knowing that this is simply not possible.
>>11487280>I WISH this was how the actual remake lookedDo you really?
>>11480828Cid and Yuffie for me
>>11480842>What's real stupid is the "remake/rebuild"Could've stopped right there
>>11480828vincent yuffie when i was a teen. when me and my bro beat it in a 24 hour challenge we used barret tifa. suplexing sephiroth is kino
>>11488442soul vs soulless
>>11480828Cloud-Barret-RedXIII
Materia Keeper is weak to Fire in the Rebirth. You fight it in the Nibelheim flashback in the prologue chapter with Cloud and Sephiroth.
>>11485750Sephiroth looks like Vincent with silver jenova hair and Vincent was fucking sephiroth ls mom right at the time she conceived. It's not rocket science bro
>>11494176I don't remember Vincent and Lucrecia fucking. Vincent tried to hold hands with Lucrecia, Lucrecia rejected him and then Lucrecia hugged Hojo in the flashback the og game shows when you bring Vincent to Lucrecia's waterfall cave.
>>11494176If you do the Lucrecia sidequest to get Vincent's final limit break it's explained that Hojo got with Lucrecia and Vincent ran away to be edgy. There's even picrel right before you fight Hojo where it's clearly stated. Hojo is Sephoroth's dad.
>>11494197Rodney took that hard.
>>11494058>RedRocket
>>11487116my negro
>>11480732>>early weapon with 255% accuracy making Deathblow usefulThis is such a meme. Red XIII does more damage with the Seraph Comb and without a slow ass animation
>>11494476Is Tifa giving Nanaki a piggyback ride so he can fit inside a Shinra costume better?
>Cloud>Tifa>Vincentif you used any other party you missed the point.
>>11494808What's the point? Tifa and Vincent having more unique Limit Breaks? They all tied to Nibelheim?
>>11485773Hojo tells everyone he is Sephiroth's dad before you fight him at the end of disc 2
>>11480792Hojo is Sephiroth's bio dad, Vincent just managed to get cucked by him
>>11480912See that's the funny part, Nomura swears up and down it was't his doing despite clearly being his doing
I don't see the point in 7R retconning Vincent into being Sephiroth's real father, but I have a bad feeling they will actually do it as a lazy reason to give him more relevance in part 3.
>>11494583But Deathblow's animation is cooler, checkmate
>>11495584>believe me, random retard with a strange grudge against someone I never met, instead of everyone actually working on the game
>>11496248If it looks like a duck, swims like a duck, and quacks like a duck...
>>11497103It may also be a goose.
