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Literally the best ones. You don't need anything else. This is what the series is about.

Scifi slop and super-linear corridor slop isn't fucking FF.
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>>11487441
IX is absolute shit compared to 6, 7, 8 and 10. you can immediately spot a tastelet if theyre praising fucking IX.

>sci fi slop isnt FF!
the first scene of ffvi involves riding huge magitek armor. its on the fucking cover. the very first game in the series features time travel. you have no idea what youre talking about.
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>muh heckin' slopirino
Another year of being a faggot eh, don't want to break that chain.
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>>11487441
both of those games have scifi
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>>11487441
>Scifi slop and super-linear corridor slop isn't fucking FF.
>Picks two such examples
What did he mean by this?
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>>11487461
you can get lost in the world map for no reason so its better
even though the game cant progress unless you do the right thing at the right place
also 6 has giant mechs and bioengineered magic super soldiers and 9 the main character is literally an ayylmao born in a test tube
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>>11487441
>S tier: VI, VII, VIII, X
>A tier: V, IX
>B tier: I, IV
>C tier: II, III
>Don't play tier: everything else
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>>11487469
11 is the best mmo ever made and 12 zjs is playable especially now that we've experienced almost 20 years of slop autobattle games like it
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>>11487494
>mmo slop
>single player game designed like mmo slop

hard pass
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>>11487469
>3 below 1
objectively incorrect opinion, your entire list is now suspect and you cannot be taken seriously.
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>>11487508
1 is comfy
3 is cooler but is grindier and the last dungeon ruins the whole game
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>>11487509
you already revealed your mistake, you cant put the genie back in the bottle I cant respect you anymore no matter what you say.
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>>11487443
It really is a dumb post saying Sci-Fi doesn't belong in FF. I think only 2 doesn't have significant sci-fi elements of some sort. And 2 is literally Dragonlance anyway instead of DnD.
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These low-effort FF threads probably make people hate the games. We get so many "rank FFs" or "Best FF" threads it's tiresome. At least do like the FFVIIIschizo and say interesting stuff about one particular game.
Anyway, the PSX FFs are my 3 favorite games of all time. They're all good through XII.
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>oh hey FF9 thread
>oh, it's another inflammatory bait OP
Anyone else find themselves avoiding threads on games they like because it's impossible to find real discussion?
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>>11487467
>9 the main character is literally an ayylmao born in a test tube
lulz. Also one summon is a fucking transformer...
>>11487461
ha ha
>how embarrassing
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All 9 has going for it is muh return to old times for manchildren who could never grow up from pretending to swing an imaginary sword
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>>11487443
>the very first game in the series features time travel
In what context is the time travel in FFI? I wouldn't consider time travel using magic or crystals as scifi.
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>>11487948
I havent played it in a while but dont you get transported to the past to kill the big bad guy?
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>>11487469
>Don't play tier: everything else
>implying tactics is not worth playing
Your sin will be judged!
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>>11487441

9 is incredibly mediocre and boring. I prefer 1, 4, 5, 6 and 7. Never played 8 or 10. 2 is shit. 3 is forgettable.
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>>11488776
You are an in idiot. Disc 1 is literally the most spectacular shit I have ever seen in a video game. It only becomes shit in disc 3.
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>>11489671
Fuckin' A, let people have their own opinions. Also Disc 3 is great because of how much freedom you get and how much hidden shit there is. As I always say for anything, the late game is boring if you got too OP in the early game.
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>>11487914
how many more decades will it take for you to grow beyond saying "muh"
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>>11487948

It uses magic and crystals, seemingly. I don't think human-built machines are involved. FF1 does have a strong science fictiony streak running through it, of course, so the point stands. But the time travel element doesn't seem to be part of it... probably. It's hard to be sure, since that aspect of the plot isn't clearly explained (at least in the NES version).

Anyway, I imagine that OP is talking about settings, cultures, and maybe even visual character designs that feel modern. FF6 is just the standard Final Fantasy grab bag of mythical and magical concepts... plus a dash of steampunk. Sure Edgar has a power drill, but he's still the medieval king of a castle made of stone. It's hardly Zanarkand.
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>>11489723
Play double exp mod nigger. Combine that with perfect stats mod for true kino.
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>>11487441
6, 7, and 9 are my favorites.
I also enjoyed 12 quite a bit, but..
*I thought the cities/dungeons could have used more npcs with dialogue and quests.
*ending boss looks and acts like a tranny.
*Van is a whiny bitch. I get hes young, but try to make the pc less of a bitch

I was resistant to the battle system at first, but it grew on me real fast. I also liked gambits as a wat to autobattle - more intelligently. That plus gambit buffing made it feel like your characters actually had minds of their own.

The international job version sucks though (and its what gets ported to everything else). I wish when they released that steaming pile of shit, they gave you a choice to play the original version at least. Just fucking gimp all my goddamn characters and call it an improvement.. yeah.
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>>11487441
FF 9 is just so damn comfy in every single way. FF6 has its charm too, but FF9 is more memorable to me.
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>>11490074
Lindblum is fucking kino. I have never seen a RPG town that huge.
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>>11490192
Baldur's Gate.
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>>11490205
Thank you for your wisdom rape-sama.
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>>11489790
once your mom gets off muh dick
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The SNES trilogy is peak. There is some good stuff before and after (1, 3, 7, T, TA) but these 3 games are simply the best and add a lot of weight towards the SNES's victory of the generation.
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>>11489723
>how much hidden shit there is.
It's truly crazy. They stuffed too much quests in this game. And unlike in 8, they are legit and not obscure shit you can only find with a guide.
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>>11490342
>not obscure
>that one quest that took 13 years to discover because it required very specific conditions
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>When you're still finding new scenes 20+ years later.
Man, they sure loved to lewd Selphie.
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>>11487441
>gives the most boilerplate reddit take
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>>11490423
what the hell haha. This goes too far.
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>>11487441
At this point, I'm starting to think this is part of an effort to make these particular entries more hated.
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>>11487948
When you defeat Garland at the very beginning, the 4 fiends send him 2,000 years into the past.

There he becomes Chaos, and sends the fiends 2,000 years into the future.

No, it doesn’t make any sense.
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>>11490423
>*ruins your entire game you spent $30 million dollars and two years developing by making combat reliant on a optional card game and scaling enemies with your party*
FF8 is such wasted potential as a game, it is absolutely the middle child of FF.
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You haven't actually played any of these games if you didn't play them in Japanese.
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>>11491934
>combat is reliant on card mod

if youre a total fucking brainlet, sure. its not even close to needed

>scaling enemies bad!! I want to grind until the game is pointless!

why do you people even play jrpgs
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>>11491940
>game -_-
>game, japanese :D

please improve the gene pool and just end it already
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>>11491997
>he thinks I played these games in Japanese
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>>11487441
IX's battles take too long and I'd pick the snes version of 6 over the psx. Also, 5 is the most replayable.
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>>11490192
True, locations in 9 are great!
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>>11489801
Thanks, never played 1-3, so don't know story. Everyone says, "don't bother unless you want the clout: 4 and 5 pretty much perfected everything from 1-3."

I would say then that would not be "scifi" since it isn't explained and is "special". Even though chrono trigger has some accidental time travel with the pendent, it is established that time travel can be achieved with technology or magical research in that universe, making it scifi time travel.
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>>11487441
I love them both, but I definitely also need 5 and 7. I suppose the rest I could do without.
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>>11491934
>making combat reliant on a optional card game
I just completed FFVIII for the first time and didn't play a single game of triple triad.
>scaling enemies with your party
Literally not an issue as long as you do a good job farming enemy drops/steals to refine into spells.

FFVIII isn't a good game by any measure, but I do love how effectively it filters total retards.

>>11491996
>scaling enemies bad!! I want to grind until the game is pointless!
The game is already pointless because you can refine waters and curagas within the first few hours without even trying, which basically makes you invincible through most of disc 2. The game does a poor job explaining the junction system and never even tells you about refining, but if you have at least a few brain cells, you'll manage to become invincible before you even leave the Balamb continent.

By the end of disc 3, I was so overpowered just by refining random drops/steals that even the lunar cry monsters in Esthar couldn't touch me. I farmed them for energy crystals and curse spikes to make everyone's best weapons, which got Squall close to level 90. And even with monsters scaling to that, I was still invincible.

FFVIII was rushed has fuck and the overworld is empty. Most of the main plot is structured to waste the player's time and draw things out to give the illusion of more content, so I'm convinced the retarded junction system was intentionally obtuse to create artificial difficulty for the players not smart enough to actually expiriment with the tools they are given. The dirtiest trick it plays (outside of not telling the player to refine instead of draw) is making Summons free to cast. In previous FFs summons were an amazing source of damage, but in VIII, they're just a waste of time.
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>FFVI isn't sci-fi slop
Wow, this industrial setting surely is so much different from the industrial setting of FF7!
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>>11490192
>Lindblum is fucking kino.
One of my favorite JRPG towns of all time. I love how "vertical" the game makes it feel despite being made up entirely of static, pre-rendered backgrounds. I also like that the "techno-metropolis" city finally belongs to the good guys for once. It's just plain cool.
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>>11492509
I mean, it is fairly different. Technology in VII was inherent to the world. Every town had electronics and computers and shit, with a couple of intentional exceptions. In FFVI, the "sci-fi" came off as more "steampunk", and was made to seem purposefully anachronistic to the world setting--the exception rather than the rule.

OP is retarded, but if you think the presentation of the capital city of Vector is the same thing as Shinra Tower, you're retarded AND blind.
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>>11492515
Lindblum = America
Alexandria = Europe
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>>11487441
>u-uh sci-fi!
There are robots in the very first game. :)
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>>11487469
i kneel
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>>11487469
>6 before 9
You are just being an edgelord now
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You go to the moon in IV. It's pretty cool.
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>>11493179
The core of the moon is my favourite place out of all of the Final Fantasy games. Those nice crystal floors together with the music (Within The Giant) makes me feel all warm and fuzzy inside.
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>>11487441
nah the only final fantasy games you need are 4, 5 and maybe 7
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>>11490192
seeing it get destroyed hurt me more than aerith getting penetrated bareback
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>>11493186
It was a pretty kino idea.
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>>11487443
The holy quadrilogy is 789T
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>>11487441
VI is ass
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>>11487441
Faggot, the series has had sci-fi elements since IV.
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>tfw fighting a mech in FF1
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>all the retards in this thread who think a fantasy game having a handful of purposefully anachronistic technological elements is the same thing as a game being "sci-fi"
I knew JRPG fans were stupid, but yikes.
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>>11492985
VI blows IX away. the villian is one of the best ever and IX has one of the worst. VI gets better in the second half, IX falls apart. way better music in VI. battles dont take 30 sec to load. incredibly iconic final battle compared to the faggot necron pulled out of nowhere.
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>>11496309
>Kefka is one of the best villains ever
Always blows my mind that this sentiment exists, but nobody ever accused normies of having good taste or media literacy, so of course they simply think that their favorite FF villain is automatically "the best".

The thing with FFVI is that the main conflict is intentionally sparse. The real "meat and potatoes" of FFVI's storytelling is in the individual character arcs, which often have very little to do with the main plot, if anything at all. Kefka as antagonist only exists as an excuse to get the heroes moving. Kefka is a shallow villain who only wants chaos and destruction for the sake of it, and there's barely even a single line of dialogue in the game that explains anything about him.

Kefka is so wafer-thin as an actual character that even Exdeath--who has a reputation of being the "saturday morning cartoon villain" of the franchise--has more depth. Exdeath at least has an origin you can trace his motive from. Exdeath wants power for power's sake, but his story is delivered to the player with context; he wants power BECAUSE he is literally made of evil spirits that lust for power. He hates mankind and sage Ghido BECAUSE they trapped him in a forest for 470 years just for existing. He has a bone to pick with Galuf BECAUSE he was sealed by him 30 years ago. And once he becomes NeoExdeath, he desires the destruction of everything BECAUSE the will of the void is overpowering his own.

But you can't say anything like that about Kefka. He's just an edgy retard who wants to hurt people because he has a bad brain. There isn't even any treaceable, linear character motivation to him serving the role of antagonist other than the fact that the game needs one.

>the faggot necron pulled out of nowhere.
Oh. You could have just said you were a retard from the start and I would have understood.
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>>11494980
i never understood why the screen is split in the middle
t. not played first FF
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>>11496408
the main villain is kuja
necron was just a throwback to their sudden main big bad darkness incarnate reveal tradition
the final boss is depression



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