why didnt nintendo release a Super mario world 2 romhack like they did with the lost levels? Imagine harder levels or just an expansion pack with new levels
>>11491481they had a crystal ball and could see that future people would do the same on a much greater level, so they made something unique instead.
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>>11491481Hopefully they will one day, super Mario world is still the undefeated 2d Mario experience.
Nintendo released a number of remixes of Mario and Zelda games for the Broadcast Satellite (BS) service they run for use with Satellaview, but curiously they never did anything like "BS Super Mario World".There were BS versions of Zelda 1, Zelda 3, Super Mario USA (SMB2 international), and Super Mario Collection (Super Mario All-Stars), but not World.
>>11491481Because "the lost levels" was a fully released game called Super Mario Bros. 2, not a level pack they made for the compilation.
>>11491481I read in a nintendo magazine someone saying they should do this. I think they should have done more of this instead of starting the game engine from scratch, I would guess because Snes came out in 1991 and by 1993 you are already getting talk of the next generation so there might not have been enough time, imagine you release a console in 2021 and by now it already seems old and not worth investing too much into.A few games sort of did this, Road Rash is mostly the same engine, micro machines in a way.
>>11492481Lost Levels / SMB2J by it's nature is more like a 2nd quest / Master Quest release, since very little changes aside from a few additions to the base game like wind, super springs, or poison mushrooms.
>>11492513It was still a game they made and released in full, they didn't make it for All Stars.
>pixel filter
It is interesting why Nintendo didn't make more nominal upgrade/level pack sequels, like they did with SMB2J. Maybe they felt justified in doing so with SMB2, given the cheaper price of games, but felt that it would be viewed as a ripoff if they did so with more expensive cartridge releases?
>>11491481They'd have released mario maker on the n64 if they had the benefit of hindsight
>>11493072they released gba ports of the same nes games
>>11492471afaik none of the BS Super Mario titles actually change the level layouts.
>>11491481Because the devs were starting to turn into selfish divas.
>Lost Levels picked up after World 8 of SMB1, with its World 1 being either equal to SMB1's last world in terms of difficulty or even a bit harder>SMW2 would've picked up after stuff like OutrageousDamn man
>>11494793>Lost Levels picked up after World 8 of SMB1, with its World 1 being either equal to SMB1's last world in terms of difficulty or even a bit harderNot true.
They were too busy making Mario Is Missing and Mario's Time Machine.
>>11494878"Mario is Missing proves that players will put up with dogshit bait-and-switch gameplay as long as they learn that you won't find adobe in Nairobi."-Miyahon
>>11491481>why didnt nintendo release a Super mario world 2 romhack like they did with the lost levels?Would've been neat, but look at what Nintendo EAD was working on after SMW released: Super Mario Kart and Super Mario All-Stars. They probably assumed it wouldn't be justified if they could just revamp the original trilogy on top of also working on SMK.
>>11494878>>11495014To be honest I doubt anyone at Nintendo had even seen gameplay footage of Mario is Missing, they didn't even publish that game
>>11491481Because the original lost levels was grossly panned as a lame pathetic excuse for a sequel, dumbass.
>>11491481Super Mario plus. An addon cart like sonic and knuckles that has more levels, more difficulty and more characters to play with ala smb2. You can connect smw to play it with other characters. Yoshi, toad, peach, Bowser, donkey Kong? That definitely would've saved the Saturn.
>>11496073not in japan, and they were literally one of the central marketing point for all stars.
>>11494878That was software tool works
Because by the 90s, a console sequel by Nintendo that's just "The same game again, but harder, lol" wasn't going to cut it, it just barely cut it in 86 with Lost Levels, and that was only in Japan.
>>11494858But it is. SMB2J 1-1 is essentially SMB1 9-1
>>11491481Honestly, it’s wild that Nintendo never went for a Super Mario World 2: Lost Levels concept. They had the tech, the audience, and the time to cook up something like that. SMW is one of the most beloved games of all time, and an official romhack-style sequel could’ve been an easy cash grab and a celebration of its mechanics.Instead, they pivoted to Yoshi’s Island, which, while amazing in its own right, is basically a completely different game with a different vibe. It feels like Nintendo wanted to innovate instead of doubling down on pure platforming challenges like The Lost Levels. Maybe they thought a harder SMW expansion pack wouldn’t sell well in the West, given how The Lost Levels wasn’t exactly a hit outside Japan.But just imagine the possibilities: new worlds, trickier mechanics, speedrun challenges, and even a proper "Star Road 2.0." Nintendo could’ve leaned into Kaizo-style difficulty before it was even a thing. The engine was already perfect—just add some clever level designs and call it a day.Maybe they thought fans would be content with fan-made hacks down the road (little did they know the Kaizo Mario scene would explode decades later). Or maybe they underestimated how much players would want more of all time from SMW. Missed opportunity, for sure.
>>11497180Thanks chatGPT
>>11495037Highly, highly, highly doubt that. Yamauchi was a control freak. He at the least saw video and promotional materials and signed off on it.
One of these days I *will* get around to making VS. Super Mario World. A romhack of Super Mario World intended to be played in arcade. Same story and graphics as vanilla SMW but much more challenging. With functioning coinage system.
>>11491481They did. Its called Yoshis Island.
>>11497251YI plays literally nothing like mario world, you clod
>>11491481No cheap way to distribute it. It was dirt cheap to go to a disk kiosk and get japanese SMB2