Never forget what they took from you.
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>>11503839This is a fan made screenshot. Nobody knows what “pocket monsters rpg” was going to actually be like.Even still, this is what everyone wanted Pokémon on N64 to be and we were all disappointed with Stadium. Nintendo knew it too which is why they were graceful enough to sell us an add-on for the controller to we could play the gameboy games on our tv.
>>11503839Wow look at all that empty nothing!!!! SOVL
>>11503848Damn, the menu is kinda rough but other than that this looks great.
>>11503851Stadium was a real letdown as some friends of mine were expecting an action game.
>>11503851>this is what everyone wanted Pokémon on N64 to be and we were all disappointed with StadiumStadium is still beloved to this day and I've never seen anyone complain about it not being a full-blown RPG until this board. The Stadium games basically complete each gen, and they take advantage of some of the best parts of the N64 which is 4-player multiplayer.
>>11503862I didn’t expect an action game and I can’t recall my friends expecting that either but I’m sure some did. Most of us were expecting the N64 Pokémon game to be a full-fat epic RPG like the gameboy games and we got a fucking battle simulator. Still had my fun with it but yeah they were both letdowns.
>>11503873Nice bait you lifeless scumbag.
>>11503839I want to play this
>>11503859It looks empty and lifeless. It would've flopped.
>>11503840You have to be unironically autistic to think that’s what OP was talking about>>11503873Ah, here comes the gaslighting>no one actually wanted a 3D pokemon action RPG during the height of pokemania chud>especially on a console that was so starved of true RPGsNintendo makes some good games, but their apologists who act like they can do no wrong are pathetic.>>11503915>it would have floppedThey put the pokemon skin on puzzle game shovelware and it sold gangbusters. Anything pokemon branded would have sold well during pokemania.
>>11503839They did us a favor
>>11503915>empty and lifelessSo like modern Pokemon games which still sell like hotcakes?
>>11503928Nobody said that nobody would've wanted one. I'm saying people didn't really complain about getting Stadium during fucking Pokemania. Chances are you already had the Game Boy games anyway, and Stadium perfectly complements that. Everything Stadium offered was a god send for anyone with the games, especially if you had siblings or friends who, chances are, were also into Pokemon at the time.We got two 3D Pokemon RPGs next gen and they were mediocre. One on N64 would probably have been far too ambitious.
>>11503934>We got two 3D Pokemon RPGs next gen and they were mediocre. To be fair, that was true of all of nintendos sixth gen entries for their franchises when they knocked it out of the park during fifth gen.
I mean, this faggot is right... I used to love Pokémon Stadium back in 2000. We had the cartoon, the movie and the games on game boy, Pokémon Stadium let nigglets have badass 'mon fights in full 3D and if you and/or your friends were some brokeass niggles you could have some fun playing those minigames a la Mario Party.You had the stadium, battle vs. cpu or 2nd player, the gb tower if you had the gb game plus the xfer pak, that nerdy quiz for nintendrones, you can transfer some pkmn from your gb cartridge to your stadium cartridges at the pokemon lab, fuck you can even teach a pikachu how to surf if you beat the game with your own instead of shitty rentals.The game was pure sovl, you had to be there, it expanded and enhanced your pokémon experience. You missed it if you were a saturn fag coping with that shitty sega touring car championshit port or you were too old being a psx gen x faggot playing movies like final fantasy vii or metal gear. Pokémon Stadium and Stadium 2 were peak Gen I & II.---With that being said... Let's imagine this scenario, faggots: Pokémon Yellow but on Nintendo 64, how about that? 3D graphics between Super Mario 64 and Ocarina of Time, is Kanto and the same shit as Yellow, you play as Ash and all of that but you can exchange with gb using the xfer pak and even have duels with friends if they had the game, same 3D models and UI as Stadium. That shit could be crazy back in the day, even nowdays as a romhack/homebrew game, that could be lit as fuck.tl;drPokémon Stadium is peak gen I & II. A Pokémon 3D on 64 based on Yellow would be great.
>>11503915>It looks empty and lifeless
>>11503974resulation?
>>11503839>not a single pokemon 64 attempt, not even a zelda reskindead series
>>11503839I want to eat a cinnabar, it sounds delicious
>>11503839>what they took from youFan mockups will continue to be a thing. Nothing was taken from anyone.
This is how a Pokémon N64 RPG would have looked like.
>>11505096
>>11503873>I've never seen anyone complain about it not being a full-blown RPGbecause you weren't alive when it came out. Everyone complained about it.
>>11505169He's a certain kind of person, one of them.He's just baiting looking for (you)s, ignore him.
>>11505096>>11505101Boka nova
>>11503839>Pokemon looking like this>while on a cartridgelmao
>>11503970this autistic idea with>>11505096this sovllfull 2D sprites on a 3D enviroment that... that could have saved Saturn
>>11503839Debunked
>the few jap-speaking N64 owners that got to play Robopon 64 and the other obscure JRPG releases
>>11503873you have to be 18 to post here
>>11503848>>11503839This is not real and we now know the Pocket Monster RPG project became Pokemon Snap.Also, Stadium exists, and it's way better than what people yearned for.
>>11503974If that shit was released in the 90s or 2000s, yeah it would.Pokemania was already past it expiry.
>>11503934k, zoom-zoom, the N64 had no RPGs during the genres peak. everyone wanted a full 3D Pokemon RPG. stop pretending you were around during this time, it's painfully obvious you weren't.
>>11503839>reality
this looks like shit
>>11506423He speaks the truth, you're just another tourist /vp/ faggot who's too spoiled from all the recent leaks and information dig up that happened between the last decade and now.Also there's been more people nostalging Stadium's amazing battle animations, opposed to the current day garbage GF puts out on handhelds. Where was the disappointment? If there was any, there would be some actual pushback.
>>11503839>>11503848The franchise is almost 30 years old and nobody whipped up something similar and real through homebrew or indie shit.Name a more lazier fanbase.
>>11505101hell yea Custom Robo
>>11506421>the other obscure JRPG releasesname one
>>11506452BOOM
>>11506464yeah I think that one and robopon are literally the only 2 jrpgs that arent in english, and the other two that are in english make up the 4 only jrpgs on the n64
>>11506447Why would they try to when they can make their own mon game, with blackjack and hookers
>>11503873Yeah, I loved Pokemon Stadium when it was new. Having your Pokemon battle in 3D was amazing for me back then, along with all the bonus items and rare Pokemon you got to send back to the Game Boy games. Great with friends, both for the battles and the minigames. It basically a postgame for Gen 1.
>>11505169>>11503928>>11506423>>11503882>>11505171You guys are being goofy. Maybe your circle of friends was disappointed, but it was generally liked. Kids ate up anything associated with Pokemon back then, nobody was complaining that much.For what it's worth, you can see user reviews on GameFAQs from when it released still:https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/n64/198312-pokemon-stadium/reviewsMostly positive, with a couple negative reviews. If you can find any evidence that people were widely disappointed, show it. It's true that many thought a full 3D Pokemon RPG would be cool since the start, but that didn't translate into hating on Stadium. Generally people accepted it for what it was.
>>11506651I’m the second poster in your mass reply. Feel free to point out where I said people were disappointed in Stadium dumbshit.
>>11506736>Ah, here comes the gaslightingin reply to >Stadium is still beloved to this day and I've never seen anyone complain about it not being a full-blown RPGwhich was in reply to >we were all disappointed with Stadium
Imagine this being a GameCube launch title instead of fucking Luigi's Mansion
>>11506896Like how else would he be "gaslighting" in >>11503873. All he said was people didn't complain about Stadium not being a full RPG, which is true for most part. A lot of people would've loved a full 3D RPG, but that didn't mean they were disappointed with Stadium.
>>11506898Would've been pretty tight.
>>11506902*he didn't even say people didn't complain, just that he never saw those complaintsSeems to me the gaslighting here is saying "we were all disappointed with Stadium"
>>11503839you can play the Switch games if that's what you want
>>11506651>tendies were slop eating faggots back in the 90s too!if you were to ask your average N64 owner/gamer in the 90s if they thought the 64 was lacking in RPGs they would've undoubtedly say yes. teasing a fully 3D Pokemon and not having it include a full campaign was disappointing to N64 owners. your tendie damage control posts from the 90s don't change that
>>11505096KinoLove those early bomberman hero textures
>>11506431Robonpon 64 needs an english transmission
>>11506464I forgot this existedThere's also that baller N64 virtual fighter clone called last legion So quion
>>11503839>You will never ride a laparas across the ocean in real life
>>11503848SwSh isn't /vr/, fuck off.
I wish there was a modern stadium that connects to all gens for battling
>>11507018>if you were to ask your average N64 owner/gamer in the 90s if they thought the 64 was lacking in RPGs they would've undoubtedly say yesCorrect, never denied that.> teasing a fully 3D Pokemon and not having it include a full campaign was disappointing to N64 owners.Never was a widespread thing, because nobody expected Stadium to be a full RPG like that. If you were following game news closely, you'd know that the Pokemon Stadium we got in English was actually the second Pokemon Stadium game. So for people knew what to expect. It's possible some ignorant kids you knew misinterpreted previews and expected more. Not sure why they would though, considering magazines made it clear what the game would be. But even if they did expect more, odds are they played Stadium and enjoyed it for what it was when it released.https://archive.org/details/nintendo-power-issue-130-march-2000/page/n13/mode/2uphttps://archive.org/details/nintendo-power-issue-129-february-2000_202307/page/n33/mode/2up?view=theaterhttps://archive.org/details/ElectronicGamingMonthly_201902/Electronic%20Gaming%20Monthly%20Issue%20120%20%28July%201999%29/page/n61/mode/2up
>>11503873Dont let the retards change history for you. People love Stadium even back then. I dont know why they're addicted historical revisionism.
>>11507581I don't get it either. Like I'm not denying kids would've loved a fully 3D Pokemon RPG on N64. But trying to rewrite history to pretend Stadium was some big disappointment related to that is silly. If I wanted to be charitable, I'd say they're just too young to remember, or maybe their personal friend group was disappointed. But considering the posts calling people "tendies," it's more likely just revisionism for the sake of it.Theoretically, if there was any disappointment over Stadium not being a full-blown RPG, it would've been at the same moment they found out the game existed. Because early previews made it clear what you were getting. But in reality the reaction to Stadium was overwhelmingly positive. People loved battling in 3D and all the extra modes/rewards for the Game Boy games.
>>11507578>Never was a widespread thing, because nobody expected Stadium to be a full RPG like that.this is such an autistic interpretation of events.>people couldn't have been disappointed by the lack of RPGs on the system because they knew ahead of time that the RPG series that was coming to the console was being demoted to a collection of mini gamesPokemon Stadium was symbolic of Nintendo's failure to deliver the same kind of experiences that their competitors were when it came to the RPG genre. everyone felt that way. when ever the subject of RPGs came up in the magazines it was "Nintendo's RPG starved console". Stadium was a disappointment on that level. I'm not saying that it didn't succeed in what it was trying to be. I'm saying that most people were disappointed that it didn't even attempt to be something of an answer to the like 5 million RPGs on the Playstation, hell, not to mention the SNES. Nintendo fans were expecting that genre to be represented and it simply wasn't. Stadium was symbolic of that
>>11507594Yeah. I was there since red and blue came out. No one thought or mentioned some full blown 3D pokemon game campaign/world. I could probably get Ocarina of Time inspiring some kids to think it was possible but kids thought ANYTHING was possible back then and then quickly forgot about it the moment Pokemon Pinball or Puzzle League Challenge or the TCG gameboy game came out. And if you were an adult thinking that was possible, and pissed at the devs for not doing the impossible back then, and still pissed about it? Delusional.The game was advertised as Stadium from the get go. It's hard to find any trending belief or hope or disappointment regarding anything except what was advertised. Sounds like someone in this thread married themselves to an idea long ago and autistically rants to themselves and others about the "biggest mistake ever made".
>>11507638>Pokemon Stadium was symbolic of Nintendo's failureTo who? You? > everyone felt that wayEveryone felt N64 lacked RPGs, nobody felt that way about StadiumSo yeah, Stadium didn't solve N64's RPG problem. But nobody was upset at Stadium for not fixing or attempting to fix that. I don't even think calling it a "symbol of the lack of RPGs" makes sense.Like I wouldn't even call it comparable to calling Sonic R a symbol of the lack of Sonic games on Saturn makes more sense. People expected a new Sonic on Saturn, they didn't expect a full Pokemon RPG on consoles. It was Pocket Monsters after all.
>>11507638>Nintendo fans were expecting that genre to be represented and it simply wasn't.This part I agree with you 100% though. Especially after the SNES was so great for RPGs.
>>11505169This. Everyone just wants Pokémon red blue or whatever on the 64 w full 3d graphics. It’s only long after that people aren’t acting like it wasn’t a huge deal and massive dissapointment.
>>11507645Maybe I was a bit harsh there. I can understand someone calling Stadium symbolic of the lack of RPGs in a sense. Like if people were talking about what RPGs were available on the N64, they might bring up Stadium just because there's so little else to talk about in that regard.
>>11507645>>11507643look guys, i remember when Stadium came out. no one was satisfied with the lack of a campaign, which considering "full blown 3D" RPGs were the norm by that point, wouldn't have been asking too much. the overwhelming response i remember was "it's okay for what it is". everyone was disappointed that Playstation got 20 Final Fantasies and the N64 couldn't even get one decent RPG, even when basically their flagship RPG series was making it's debut on the console
>>11507679>everyone was disappointed that Playstation got 20 Final Fantasies and the N64 couldn't even get one decent RPGYeah that part is definitely true.>no one was satisfied with the lack of a campaignI just don't think it was ever a widespread complaint, most people were satisfied with the game or at least said "it's okay for what it is" like you said.No denying people were heavily disappointed by lack of RPGs, so yeah I wouldn't be surprised if some people were saying things like "the most we got is Pokemon Stadium, no actual RPGs." N64 needed more than Quest 64. Shame Earthbound 64 didn't come out at least.
>>11507694Honestly I'm just being nitpicky at this point, I understand what >>11507679 is getting at.
>>11506896The gaslighting comment is in response to no one complained that we never got a full 3D pokemon RPG during the height of pokemania. Acting like it never happened is gaslighting.(You) posted review scores of stadium which has nothing at all to do with my comment.
>>11507694think of it this way, people would love a brand new MGS game. one actually made by Kojima. forget this remake they're doing right now. imagine if they were putting out an RTS or something set in the MGS universe. no matter how good it is, a very high percentage of fans are going to groan about not getting a proper sequel to the franchise. that's just how it is, and that's how it was with Stadium. there were no RPGs on the console and no matter what Stadium was, it just wasn't the thing that people wanted it to be. i'm sure there were plenty of kids that were content with seeing 3D pikachu on their screens but there was a high percentage of N64 owners that were disappointed that it didn't deliver something closer to what the gameboy entries were.
>>11507679That's fine. And it's clear some people remember otherwise. The N64 lacking rpgs was a problem and was known back then but the Stadium part sounds legitimately anecdotal. I remember way too many kids loving just seeing their pokemon in 3D and no one complaining about a campaign. And with reviews silent on the lack of a campaign there's really little else to say.We all had our social circles and anecdotal experiences back then. Hard to argue what the consensus was, especially when pokemania meant people were happy to consume anything at the time most of the time. I won't deny someone would want a full campaign, it just doesn't reflect anything I've seen since the game's release.
>>11507725His post did say>complain about it not being a full-blown RPG>about it not beingSo I agree some people complained about not getting full 3D Pokemon RPG, people always talked about how they wanted that. But generally people weren't complaining about Stadium for it not being that RPGAnyway, sorry for including your post in that mass reply anon, it was late and I didn't select them carefully. I didn't need to reply to your post.>>11507730Makes sense when you put it that way. I don't remember people ever complaining about getting Stadium or being unhappy with it, but I'm sure some were disappointed that they only got that and not more than on N64.
>>11503857It would barely run on the N64 if there was more stuff to render
>>11505096someone translate robopon for fuck sake
>>11507740And I’m sorry I was rude, it was a knee jerk 4chan reaction. Have a good one man.
>>11507756Once the Star Version comes out haha
>>11507756>looks like it would be a hella fun city life adventure game>is just another arena fighteroh
>>11509024>Oh no, gameplay./v/ moment
>>11509030>le turn based press attack is "gameplay"Yeah, no thanks little autistic boy. I'll take exploration and soul over staring at a rectangular text screen.
>>11507135Kek
>>11509034Ah yes, the 5th gen was full of RT rpgs with great exploration, wait a moment?
>>11503851Stadium was just a glorified toy, more than a game. It was novel getting to see all of your Pokemon modelled in 3D. That's pretty much what it was for.
>>11510473Majora's Mask?I'll slap the first person who says "not an RPG".
