>Has a million different settings>Forces you to use either a consolized UI or a poorly designed WIMP interface to access them>Forces you to set all your keybinds through an ass-backwards RetroPad metaphorWhy.I like RetroArch in theory, but it is badly in need of a better user interface.
>>11509226You don't have to to do any of that stuff to play a game. DL RA, find your ROM files, create a console list for them, play them. Grab cores straight from the program and even update them there. Tweak the settings to your hearts content. I will say that I have made changes or tweaks over time, but only to my personal preference. IE, game is loading bad--change x setting, this core isn't working right now, install new core, change audio device, etc. Not exactly any brain busters. I don't know how much simpler it could be considering how many games and systems are launching out of it. Also, I don't know what people dislike about this version of the menu. Choose a list, pick a game, launch game. I don't mean this to be condescending but if you're intimidated by it, just use it more. It's not a scary piece of software.
>>11509242>You don't have to to do any of that stuff to play a game.I know. I use it. But I want to try out the shaders and that's where shit gets daunting. Plus, mapping buttons for any console that doesn't use a SNES-style layout is like pulling teeth.>Also, I don't know what people dislike about this version of the menu.It's better than RA's older menus, I'll give it that. It's still suboptimal for the number of settings it provides, and they put different settings in weird places. Plus, if you open the menu while a game is running, and you go back to the main menu, it's not obvious how you're supposed to get back to the first menu. I don't know how to phrase it.
Well I like it alot since I was able to still use it after doing a fresh install of Windows on the same drive (the previous install bugged out and stopped reading USB connections for some reason) and it kept all of my settings and even reads the directories from the Windows.old folder fine.
>>11509242Sometimes and idk why... Browsing an archive will not lot from a zip but other times it's fine. I've tried this with different games on different systems on different devices. It's just random.
How do I get my shaders looking like this?
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>>11509315That's probably because it uses an INI file instead of storing settings in the registry. It's not unprecedented for emulators to do this.
>>11509226Botacera or better individual emulators
>>11509226Set it once and forget it, use Launchbox for organising games if you want a more PC friendly UIRA has too many good features to use individual emuilators
>>11509226learn how to use a computer
>>11509417>BatoceraDon't feel like booting into a different OS just to emulate.>individual emulatorsAlready use them for certain things.>>11509420>LaunchboxWould consider it if I wasn't on Linux. Does it simplify the process of configuring RA's settings though?>>11509428>LeArN HoW To uSe a cOmPuTeRIronically, RA's main problem is how un-PC-like its interface is. Digging through its menus reminds me of digging through the settings on a fucking cable box.
>>11509226the xmb ui on my phone+controller setup is a fucking god send. being able to save a button map config for each game or each core is a godsend. the shader options are a godsend. I fucking love rathat being said I still refuse use it for ps1 or GC. duckstation and dolphin are too elite, best emus
>>11509226>scan my folders for roms>doesnt add them all>manually scan my folders one by one>still doesnt get them all>manually selecting the rom from the directory still works thoughwhat did they mean by this
>>11509328Load Preset>crt-guest-advanced-ntsc
>>11509453RA is anal about games that don't match its internal database.
>>11509454Thanks, anon.
>>11509445>Does it simplify the process of configuring RA's settings though?The settings are simple?Just think of it like two layers, setting the emulator and also setting the programMost of the time you should just be setting up the core
>>11509472>Does it simplify the process of configuring RA's settings though?So it doesn't then.
>>11509226It's weird that I've seen people complain about the interface for a decade now. You'd think they'd fix it after so many years of hearing the same complaint.
>>11509445Learn how to use a computer.
>>11509476The current UI is better than the one it had 10 years ago, but it's still not good enough.
>>11509469Their database is dog shit thoughbeit. In theory it's based on No-Intro/Redump naming, but the reality is that it's an outdated, ill-maintained pile of shit that fails to keep up with changes and breaks frequently due to things like miscapitalizations on their part. RetroArch is a great idea executed by incompetent morons.
>>11509475I really don't understand the difficulty people have with this program
>>11509226It's open-source autism, It meant that obsessed devs make features for 0.01% of the audience and ignore real issues.I don't have Mac but Openemu looks like retroarchage made for humans.
>>11509226Get a Mac and use openemu or get a wii and homebrew. Afaik it's the last console that had proper standalone emus with intuitive menus
>>11509779RetroArch is on the App Store, OpenEmu will never be and it has an outdated cert. Can't even be installed normally on a Mac.RetroArch is on iPhones, iPads and Apple TV through the App Store.You can't beat it for convenience.It's there on Steam too for Macs.No standalone can say that. Checkmate.
>>11509917>Can't even be installed normally on a Mac.>RA more convenientIs this bait or are you mentally deficient.
>>11509929Yes it is. Nobody cares about your skeuomorphic UI. Apple dropped that UX shit like a hot stone after Jobs died anyway, and all the little sycophant Apple fanboys went along with it after decades of spreading the gospel about how great this 'UX' was. It's all bullshit evangelism for your little Apple fanaticism, whatever they do gets worshipped no matter its merits. UX is all bullshit.
dat logodid they get permission from taito
>>11509963>post is about ease of use>anon goes on autistic rant about skeuomorphismAh, you are mentally deficient
>>11510015that's the same dogshit UX that openemu still uses.its like it's stuck in 2012.
>>11509328Like artifacted garbage?
>>11509226I'll agree that RetroArch should have a more traditional PC UI as one of it's default UI options, though I think they were working on a desktop mode a while back... but for people like me that use it on emulation boxes more than on PC, having a console like UI, especially the XMB which I already loved on PSP and PS3, feels great, and looks sleek, it's just nice to have as an option.RetroArch's flawed, but it does a lot more good than bad and I'll never understand the hate some here have for it.
>>11509226The only thing that's truly garbage is the controller input mapping. The UI becomes passable when you go into user interface and get rid of the countless useless options to de-clutter the menus.
>>11509226Suggestion for grabbing Saturn roms? I just want Panzer and Mechwarrior.
>>11510806I played Panzer Dragoon Saga through Retroarch a few months ago. What are you having trouble with? I grabbed the chd file from romsfun.
>>11510994Was trying Emulatorgames but no matter what, the files wouldnt load.Which Sat Emulator are you using? Yaba?
>>11509771>castlevania only 3 starswhat a faggot
>>11509428RetroArch users are mostly illiterates.
>>11509242the rom scanner always misses half of my files. I just set the default file directory to my roms folder
>>11509226God fucking awful UI. I would only use it on dedicated devices, otherwise I find that downloading individual emulators is infinitely better
>>11509492I don't disagree with that. If anything, I wish you could just disable database checking.>>11509493I don't understand people who don't understand the difficulties people have with this program.>>11509779> Mac with OpenEmuCan't afford a Mac, and even if I could, OpenEmu sucked when I tried it on a Hackintosh almost a decade ago. It's like the opposite of RetroArch where it's oversimplified and won't let you configure much.> WiiUnderpowered for a lot of consoles. Pretty good for 240p SNES if you can get its version of RA to cooperate, which it often doesn't.>>11510086Yeah, that video's not the best example. Was looking for something similar, but without the compression artifacts.
>>11510568It's literally in the main menu, FFS. Or at least in the windows version.
>>11510568I know that emulation boxes and stuff are more what RA is intended for. While its UI isn't the best for a keyboard and mouse, it's better than a WIMP interface if all you have is a controller.>>11510802Solving the controller mapping issues would make me like RA a lot more. I don't understand why they insist on mapping everything to the RetroPad instead of just letting you map arbitrary buttons the way you can on every other emulator.
>>11511194>I don't understand people who don't understand the difficulties people have with this program.Everything literally has text underneath it that explains exactly what it does
>>11509771OpenEmu is highly overrated. I set up a Hackintosh once just to try it. That said, I wish it got ports to other platforms so that someone could take it and make a better version.>>11511057Ironically, one of the reasons I use RA is because of some of the emulators it offers.>>11511207That doesn't make the UI not a clusterfuck.
>>11511210It's not, though I will admit that it's not made for mouse use, it's mostly for controllersBut it literally functions the same way as windows drop down menus though
>>11511210if openemu is still being updated then I would have keep using it over retroarch to be honest because RA's ui is that ass
>>11511229So OpenEmu's not even being updated anymore?
>>11509226the config file is plaintext and can be edited with anything you want
>>11511249You'd think that would make it easy to edit but it's not. Plus, you have to make separate files if you want custom control mappings that don't conform to the RetroPad, and the process of making those isn't intuitive.
>>11511249What a lot of people don't realize is that I've spent more time actually using RetroArch than most of the shitters who complain about it. There are things I like about it, even if I have complaints about its user interface.
>>11509242How come retro arch is incapable of displaying mutiple columns? While single lists that waste a bunch of screen space?
>>11511320Never thought about that. I think the devs should implement it.
>Grab a ROM>Load up Retroarch.>'Failed to load content'.I am the dumb.
>>11511340I tried it on my wii the other day and it just crashes. You have to do an annoying work around with playlists to get it to load anything.
>>11511325Yeah and then imagine if they implemented something like this and you could just click the game you wanted.
>>11511348Its odd, I can load up a game for the Lynx just fine, but Saturn and it shits itself.
What's better for PS1 on a CRT, Retroarch with Swanstation or Duckstation?>>11511340Did you install the BIOS?
>>11511351can drag drop retroarch?
>>11511351That would kick ass>>11511358Saturn needs a BIOS file, if you don't already have one.>>11511439Swanstation is a Duckstation fork with some extra additions, from what I understand. Try both and see what works better ig.
>>11511210>OpenEmu is highly overrated.I think the same, a lot of people see screenshots and yeah it looks nice but if you want to actually play games RA is a lot better.
>>11509226>forces blah blah>"HELP I'M BEING OPPRESSED"Your intellectual weakness is not my concern or responsibility. I'm sorry you had a bad time but it doesn't affect me.
>>11509453yea it's pretty trash. Some of the stuff that Retroarch does badly could be easily fixed if the devs weren't so incredibly stubborn. I just use load content and set start directory to my roms folders, I don't use playlists at all.
>>11511502>Some of the stuff that Retroarch does badly could be easily fixed if the devs weren't so incredibly stubborn.That seems to be a problem with emudevs in general. The type of people who are able to develop emulators tend to be like that.
>>11511461>>11511439The BIOS? I thought that installing the core for Saturn was all that was needed.
>>11511832As a general rule, if a console has a BIOS, you need a BIOS file. Consoles that have had theirs reverse-engineered, like the GBA and PS1, are the exception, but you'll still want their BIOSes for accurate emulation.
>>11509476They pander to PiTards who need a controller-based interface
>>11511841Then it looks like I'll need to find the BIOS for the US Saturn then.
>>11509226I'm just glad I get to play arcade, genesis, and snes games on my apple tv. It makes me very happy.
>>11511832Some cores will refuse to work without the BIOS. Swanstation, for example.
>>11512134Why has RA never figured out a way for the cores to tell you what BIOS files you miss instead of just crashing?
>>11512136But it does
>>11509226low iq general?Seriously, it's nothing too complicated,everything is properly categorized in sectionseven normies (like you) can just get a quick setup running.please, find other hobbies
>>11512302>>11511494you dont have to play linebacker for a shitty UI. You can just say nothing, its an objectively bad UI evidenced by the fact that everyone complains about it.
>>11510806>Saturn romsNot up for a great start.
(You) can pay for official emulators if you're afraid of options.
>>11512302why do you think they only play simple old games that were sold in toy stores?
>>11512312>everyone complains about it.only incompetent retards complain about it,again,if you want to play retro games, get the real thing,or even find new hobbies,computers are not for you.
>>11512421>yeah the UI has problems and is needlessly nonsensical in places but I like the program so I can adaptagain thats all you had to say, or say nothing at all. Youre attempting to argue against objective truths
>>11509226just use a frontend if you don't like it.
>>11509492>thoughbeitfuck off
>>11512302This.It's yet another "I got filtered by a UI" thread and they never stop being funny.
>>11512534Retroarch is the frontend.
>>11512421>only incompetent retards complain about itNo actually everyone complains about it and is suspect asf to see a thread or post praising it. A high learning curve UI is bad enough, a high learning curve UI full of useless options is shit.
>>11512443you are attempting to fault the world for your low intelligence and inability to grasp a simple thingsyikes
It really is funny that you have not managed to come up with any new ways to shill this thing besides replying to every single post with "low IQ" after all these years.
>>11509226Where could I find the Saturn BIOS?
>>11513035The emugen wiki has them. Link's on the sticky.
>>11509226OP please delete this thread, it is really embarrassing.Also all the options are documented both in place, and in the official docs>https://docs.libretro.com/guides/navigating/retroarch has many options because it is pro-user, it is always best to be able to customize and tweak everything according to one's needs. -- and you don't even need to go through all of them, defaults work just fine --Did you even spend 5 minutes reading the docs? to get the gist of the very basics? I bet you didn't.However you spent more than 5 minutes making this garbage shitpost thread where you bitch and whine and pass off like a complete retard.
>>11512534OK, name some then. They better not be Windoze-only shit.>>11512764RetroArch's settings aren't useless, but the UI is poorly designed to accommodate them. Options are good, but a complex selection of settings shouldn't be shoehorned into a set top box style menu system. >>11513090>OP please delete this thread, it is really embarrassing.How about you delete your comment instead?>Did you even spend 5 minutes reading the docs? to get the gist of the very basics? I bet you didn't.I have. I had to in order to set up custom controller mappings once. I've actually spent a fair amount of time using RA. And guess what? I have perfectly valid complaints about its user interface. It doesn't just leave a bad first impression, it has issues even if you know how to use it. It's riddled with elementary design flaws that the developers refuse to fix due to their stubbornness.
>>11509226>Forces you to set all your keybinds through an ass-backwards RetroPad metaphorI do not for the life of me understand this. Is there a good reason why you can't just "press button to set x" like every other emulator?
>>11509226Their default 2 button and gamecube controller layouts are retarded. Rotate the layout clockwise 90°, no one cares where the b button is on an snes controller when playing those systems. Playing Gamecube through retroarch is retarded anyways though. I've been using it for 12 years though, it's useful in some ways. I used tonusenit to easily transfer saves between my 3ds, laptop and emulator box. Still do except I don't use a handheld anymore.
>>11513406>OK, name some then. They better not be Windoze-only shit.ES-DE and pegasus are the most common ones. Just install retroarch, install the cores you want, and then you don't need to touch retroarch again because you can launch them all from the frontend.
>>11513439Because the RetroArch devs are stubborn and think they know what's best for their users better than their own users. Hell, they have a command line switch for fullscreen mode but refuse to implement one for windowed mode, so if you want separate shortcuts for them, you have to default to windowed mode. >>11513454Their default two button layout is one of the only things they do right, except for how they force you to use it in their menu system. Hitting Escape to go back a page is second nature for me, because that's what PC BIOSes and old games with keyboard-driven menus do. As for Gamecube, I just use standalone Dolphin for that.>>11513461What if I want to set up shaders or customize my controls? I don't want options to be outright hidden, I want them to be accessible in a more sensible manner.
>>11513478then learn retroarch or use batocera
>>11513478>>11513481Just tried EmulationStation-DE. It's like RetroArch but even worse. More consolized bullshit. I can't believe they have the nerve to call this shit a "desktop edition" when it's clearly not made for desktop use. Going to try Pegasus next.
>>11513461Forgot to quote you here: >>11513493
>>11513493>>11513495wait if the issue is that it's "consolized" then just use retroarch's desktop mode by pressing f5
>>11513503RetroArch's desktop mode is terrible though. I don't know how they managed to fuck it up, but they did.Anyway, I tried Pegasus, and yup, it's consolized. IMO, the only thing worse than shoving too many options into a suboptimal interface is just flat out hiding shit that you should be able to change. The last thing I want when I open an emulator is fucking autoplaying background music.I think I'm starting to understand why people like RetroArch; when you compare it to its alternatives, it's fucking fantastic, but only because those alternatives are downright dogshit.
>>11513509Maybe Launchbox (regular mode not bigbox) would work better for you?
>>11513503>>11513509On second thought, I'm giving the desktop UI another try, and it's not *that* bad. Navigating the options here is a lot less of a headache than it is in its normal UI. Would be nice if it closed the main UI when you activated it though.>>11513537Doesn't exist on Linux. Might try it if I ever go back to Windoze.
>>11513538>Doesn't exist on Linux. Might try it if I ever go back to Windoze.right, forgot you were on linux. Lutris or Gamehub?
>>11513503>>11513538On third thought, never mind. The desktop UI still has issues. I can't find an option to download new cores or update any of my content.>>11513542You have no idea how much I hate Lutris. To be fair, that's because I've never told you. I'm gonna download Gamehub and see what I think of it, though I'll be shocked if it's any better than Pegasus or ES-DE.
>>11513542Just tried Gamehub. It's mostly tailored for PC games and it doesn't even have an option to select a ROM directory. I think emulators were a complete afterthought here.Anyway, if there's a pattern I've noticed here, it's that all of RA's frontends are worse than RA itself. The built-in desktop UI shows some promise, but they really need to bring it to feature parity with the main UI.
>>11512353I'm not. If anything I like having access to them. RetroArch's default UI is poorly suited to accessing them, but its desktop UI is slightly better.
>GNU General Public License, version 3.0Fork it, shitbabies.
>>11513478The menu uses 4 face buttons, I'm talking NES, TurboGrafx, etc. It's retarded.
>>11513639>fork garbage program>still garbage at it's core>get harassed by hostile loyalists Lol nah, I'll just use Ares.
>>11513639bold of you to assume that anyone here knows C well enough to actually handle libretro/retroarch
>>11514112I'd love to use ares instead but the shaders aren't working
>>11509226I bought a new controller and I still can't stand retroarchI prefer standalone stuff on muh PC!Only a fucking Kega Fusion doesn't support xinput
>>11514667Fork it.
>>11514112>AresLiteral trannyware that's a downgrade for RA in every conceivable way except for the UI
>>11514672Kega Fusion is very laggy. Multiple frames. Please don't.
>>11509242you aren't allowed to use basic logic. this is a dogpile thread...
Is there a fork of retroarch with normal controller configs?
>>11509226Retroarch settings feels like a fucking maze.I think what would help A LOT would be to landmark it. Simply: have different background images for each settings page.Even something abstract like [pic]. But preferably images that actually represent controls, graphics, etc.
>>11514107So, what's wrong with their two button layout? Is it a controller thing? Because on keyboard, it uses the Z and X keys, just like a bajillion other emulators and keyboard-driven games. >>11514112What's Ares good at emulating? I've been thinking of trying it.>>11514672All these years later, and we still don't have a perfect replacement for Kega Fusion. If it were open source, I'd say someone should fork it, but it's not.
>>11515250Basic logic dictates that RetroArch suffers from a number of poor design decisions. I've managed to figure out how to use it, but I still think it's a poorly designed program that leaves a bad first impression, hence its reputation.>>11515306I don't think there is, but replacing the RetroPad system with individual controller configs for the menus and different systems would be a great start. Even better would be if you could have individual controller configs per-game.>>11515335That would certainly be a step in the right direction.
>>11515732Reputation? People love it, this shit hole is just contrarian central
>>11512421>only incompetent retards complain about itNot true, RetroArch's UI is poorly designed. Sure, you can eventually learn how to use it and it gets very straighforward once you understand it, but it shouldn't be so difficult for new users, as it gives a bad first impression. Unfortunately, RetroArch devs always get very defensive when people point out how unnecesarily convoluted the UI is
I don’t have much issue with RA interface for a number of reasons:-took the time to experiment -not a fucking idiot -read the FUCKING MANUALIf you can’t bring yourself to put a modicum of effort into your hobby then there’re plenty of alternatives for people of your limited capabilities.
>>11515732>Even better would be if you could have individual controller configs per-game.Unless I’m misunderstanding you, you can do that.
Where do you guys get roms now? I was using vimm's lair for decades but all the old guys seem to have gotten bonked recently
>>11515732> Even better would be if you could have individual controller configs per-game.For fuck’s SAKE, anon. You can change just about every. Single. Cunting. SETTING on a per-game basis. Jesus Christ.
>>11516437>RetroArch's UI is poorly designedthat's your opinion, 100%actually retroarch ui with the ozone driver (default) is really intuitiveeverything is where it should be and there is description on every option itemjust get a real console, where you insert the game, press on, and you play the game.
>>11516437OP here; this guy gets it.>>11516707They sure don't do a good job of advertising that then.>>11516727>actually retroarch ui with the ozone driver (default) is really intuitive>everything is where it should be and there is description on every option itemAnd that's your opinion too. I mean hey, it's better than their old UI, but I wouldn't say that everything is "where it should be".>just get a real console, where you insert the game, press on, and you play the game.And you just fell into the same trap a million other anons have fallen into; assuming that I can't comprehend how to use a computer, and that I want something so simplified that there's nothing to configure. I can use a PC just fine. Hell, I've managed to figure out how to use RetroArch just fine, but that doesn't mean I don't have criticisms about its interface. A console-style menuing system isn't optimal for the sheer number of settings RetroArch has. I don't know how many times I have to beat you people over the head with this point until you understand it. Maybe it's because you're all too neurotypical to understand nuanced opinions.
>>11516831There’s a save config per core and per game option in every menu that supports it, right at the top.
>>11516698cdromance, but he got bonkers too
>>11516831READTHEFUCKINGMANUALyou useless CUNTS.People like you wouldn't bother me as much if this wasn't the RETRO game board. I'm not saying retroarch has the best UI in the world but the fucking options are probably there by now if you took 5 fucking minutes out of your busy schedule of playing electronic kids toys and eing a athetic faggot online. GodDAMMIT all to fukcing ahfkjsdhdf dsjfsdjhg s dhsdkgs
>>11516831No, actually a console-style menuing system is just perfect for a system that emulates consoles.
>>11516960>I'm not saying retroarch has the best UI in the worldIf you dont say it is the best UI in the world then you are a low iq stupid caveman. Have you not been keeping up with the thread?
>>11516960he is trolling, nobody can be that dumb,I've seen 12 year old kids use retroarch
>>11516831I'm not the biggest fan of the UI and I definitely agree that not everything is where it should be (e.g. thumbnail settings are split between interface and playlists for whatever reason), but given the amount of settings that it has and platforms it runs on, what would you consider to be an optimal interface? WIMP like on desktop mode?As of now my one suggestion for the interface is that it should be easier and clearer to access the oddly-named quick menu, which seems to be what confuses new users the most. But other than that and fine tuning the order and categorization of some settings, it's not that bad. It used to be awful, but it's fine to play games on different platforms.>>11516960Calm down, Squarepusher.
>>11517115Nobody is saying that RetroArch is impossible to use, but it could definitely be more intuitive and less chaotic
>>11517171retroarch is a multisystem emulator,if you feel "drowned" by the amount of settings and customization then please use a standalone emulator, or even play on the real thing,also meds
>>11516698first result on google if type roms. Not that hard
The constant bitching about the RetroArch UI on this board makes me convinced the average IQ here has to be below 80 considering my retarded ass could figure it out, has no issues, and finds it intuitive.
