Mainstream shit

Maze War (1973) invent:

- first person view
- FPS
-cover system
- cheats
-map
-Lan
-Deathmatch
-level editor

+ no street fighter 2 , Final Fight or gradius lmao

>>11678080
literally everything there looks fine except shenmue. someone had to have been paid off there. the only thing notable/influential about that game is how grossly mismanaged it was by sega.

>>11678095
>turns vidya into QTEslop
nothin personnel kid

>>11678095
GTA 1 is also out of place
no one else made arcade mayhem slop

Ah yes, Kingdom Hearts Delivery 2 and Baldur's Gate 3, the most influential games of all time

I agree with the others in this thread. I'd also remove HL2 because I don't know what exactly it "influenced", HL did the same shit before it, unless you mean it inspired all the "cinematic" FPS cancer. I don't think for 2004 it changed much and frankly it got forgotten rather quickly by everyone except PCfags.
SF2 gave birth to a genre, it needs to be on this list instead of it.
>>11678090
It was groundbreaking, but virtually no one cites it as an "influence"

>>11678120
>I'd also remove HL2 because I don't know what exactly it "influenced
Le physics gimmick

No space invader who created the japanese industry of video game

>>11678127
Oh my fucking god. Not this crap.
Anyway, was the list voted on by the users? If yes, it's worthless

>public poll
where's custer's revenge?

It's a poll, of course it's going to suck. If you're going to have 20+ games on the list of the most influential of all timers of all time, you'll expect Adventure (the text one) to be on there. How about Space Invaders which spawned a new industry dedicated to cloning it.

I get it doesn't all have to be that old as most
people voting weren't alive then and it'd make for a boring list, but you're taking the piss if a game released in the year of that poll is considered top 10 material when it comes to "influence".

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>Yu Suzuki, creator of the Shenmue franchise, said: “I am deeply honoured and grateful that Shenmue has been selected as the Most Influential Video Game of All Time. At its inception, we set out to explore the question, “How real can a game become?”, aiming to portray a world and story unprecedented in scale and detail. This distinction serves as a powerful reminder that the challenge we embraced continues to resonate with and inspire so many people even today. It is truly the greatest of encouragement.
>“Above all, we would like to express our heartfelt thanks to the fans around the world who have continued to love and support Shenmue. Your passion and encouragement have guided this journey every step of the way. And the STORY IS NOT OVER YET, there is MORE TO COME! Thank you very much!”

HOLY SHIT this fucking hack is still at it? no one will fall for a kickstarter shame after the disaster of Shitmue 3 so who the fuck going to finance Shitmue 4? is it Sega? it that why they made a tranime adaption recently?

>John Romero, co-creator of DOOM, said: “It’s an incredible honour to see DOOM recognised by BAFTA as one of the most influential games of all time. We made DOOM to push boundaries and ignite imaginations, and it’s amazing to see its legacy still resonating over 30 years later. DOOM’s lasting impact is also thanks to the incredible community that embraced it, modded it, speedran it, and kept it alive across generations — this recognition is a tribute to them as much as the game itself.”
lmao BAFTA fags couldn't reach Carmack to interview him so they settled for Romero

>>11678147
>Romero ever missing a chance to talk about how he made Doom for 245214th time
Less likely than Billy Mitchell missing a chance to talk about his record for 5958217th time

>>11678080
> top 20 le best games in heestoray lists

Into the trash it goes. Also, two GTAs? I can agree with 3 since it popularized open world slop but what does 1 bring to the table except launching off the series

>>11678080
Some missing games:
>Castlevania SOTN
It's the main source of inspiration for the Metroidvania genre, has inspired tons of indie games.
>Sonic the hedgehog
Inspired tons of platformers featuring large scenarios, fast-pacing action and animal mascots with attitude.
>Tactics Ogre: Let us cling together
Created a new branch of tactical rpgs that would later inspire Disgaea or Final Fantasy Tactics (from the same creator).
>Dune 2
Codified the RTS genre.
>Dragon Quest
Codified the jrpg genre.
>Megami Tensei
First jrpg about collecting monsters.

No ultima and Wizardry

Only ultra mainstream shit...

>>11678167
>Dune 2
>Codified the RTS genre
That's actually a very good one.

>>11678080
Quake was hugely influential on the technical side. Surely more significant than counting two GTAs.
>>11678120
>I'd also remove HL2 because I don't know what exactly it "influenced"
Steam, and therefore whole landscape of vidya. Though I doubt that's what they're counting.
>>11678147
Romero was always the one that talked to the press. Everyone liked it that way.

>no Street Fighter
Defined an entire genre, still running and influencing games to date.

>the only RPGs are Warcraft and FFVII
>>11678178 no mention of either of these is criminal, but that's what happens when you poll casuals

>>11678080
What did the Sims influence, as far as I know there are almost no games like it today.

"Most influential" is such a boring stagnant category.

>>11678120
HL2, Garry's Mod, and all Source games in particular were the face of Steam at one point. I'd argue the boom of Source modding is enough to call HL2 influential.
These days, there's not much of that legacy left imo. TF2 still kinda carries on but that evolved into its own zeitgeist, I feel.

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>>11678553
>HL2's biggest legacy in 2025 is skibidi toilet

>>11678080
Pong
Space invaders
Pac Man
Donkey Kong
Tetris
Super Mario 64
Zelda OOt
GTA
Doom
Street fighter II
Virtua fighter
Zaxxon
Rollercoaster tycoon
Outrun
Fantasy zone
Galaga
just to get your hair wet

They didn't even give an explanation of "influential."
>A game’s influence, and what this means to people, is open to many interpretations, and today’s top 21 list is made up of entries that have earned their place for a variety of reasons.
Some might say "influential" means it influenced future games, others say it influenced them personally, others will say it's broader cultural influence.
My favorite game is on there, but these are all different concepts; the list is trash.

>>11678080
Is zelda really a thing in the gaming world or it's just nintendo fanboys who talk about it? I've never met someone who would even think about playing any zelda game

>>11678781
Let me guess, euro? Grew up with computers/Mega Drive, then straight to PS1/2 or PC? Or just PCfag?
Anyway, yes. OoT made a blueprint on how to do lock on, which was directly copied to GTA3, DMC and plenty other games. It also had the biggest, most open 3D world for 1998, and few games that could compare to it were severely behind it in many departments (combat, control, graphics, etc.).
It was so good that 27 years later people like you are still butthurt about it.

>>11678798
I started with PS1 but the majority of time I played on PS2. Should I try Zelda? I tried the first one but I couldn't like it because of the overall childish style.

>>11678781
OoT set the standard for action-adventure games. In one 1998 title, you have a big, explorable world instead of just linearly connected levels, day and night cycles, dynamic camera work, lock-on targeting, horseback riding, and multiple items you use for navigation and combat. It was truly the full package in a way not seen before.

>>11678810
Idk, do what you want. Ocarina of Time directly influenced many later games and tons of Western developers cite it as influence. However, that doesn't mean everyone will like it. I beat it and it was great, but I dropped it once and had my share of issues with it. If you're one of those types that "hate baby games", there's a good chance you will hate it and make #588349th thread on /vr/ how OoT is overrated shit. Because it's about exploration, puzzles and side quests/collecting, less so about fighting and real life sim/ cinematic experience.
As for other Zeldas... I don't think they're quite as influential. But surely, Link to the Past is one of the best games on 16 bit consoles. Same with Link's Awakening, but for GB. WW is as kiddy as it gets, also definitely the most divisive one. TP is also divisive.
All in all, it just depends whether you're open minded about it or not.

>>11678080
How is BAFTA reddit of TV and film, anyway?
Anywho, I don't care about Shenmue beyond the first one.

>>11678875
reddit is code for something I dont like

>>11678090
if no one played it, no one was influenced by it

>>11678612
>Mario 64 not Mario or Mario 3
>Oot not LoZ or LttP
Virtua Fighter, Zaxxon and Fantasy Zone are all awesome but didn't influence much. I wish to fucking hell Fantasy Zone was more influential.

>>11678781
I don't agree with OoT so much but the first Zelda game was the start of the Action Adventure genre of video games. That's pretty influential. The list os garbage top to bottom though.

I'd like to see a list comprised of the worst influences on video games as a medium. Stuff like HL2 making unskippable cutscenes more accepted just because you get to stack books in the corner while NPCs prattle on about zero-point energy or whatever.

>>11678951
Shenmue, GTA3, HL1, HL2, MGS… Oh wait

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>>11678080
>no sonic
It's like they weren't even trying to be taken seriously.

>>11679040
Did Sonic influence anything other than autism?

>>11678932
Virtua Fighter convinced Sony to make the PS1 a 3D system.

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>>11678080
The Bri'ish academy of kino arts (BAKA) just released a list of the most influential video games of all time:
1. Sensible Soccer on me Speccy
2. Sensible Soccer on me Amiger
3. Flashback
4. Walking egg on me Speccy
5. FIFA 98
6. FIFA 99
7. FIFA 99 it's coming 'ome edition (special Gregg's bundle)
8. FIFA 2000
9. FIFA 2001
…
22. FIFA 2014 (last one on PS2 m8)
23. Getaway
24. purple square on me Speccy
25. loynis

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>>11679056
Sonic paved the way for Coco. Nice.

>>11679059
fucking kek

>>11679047
Okay, that's a solid point. It's an ironic win for Sega, if sad. Like Fantasy Zone I really wish Virtua Fighter lead the direction 3D fighting games would go. It sucks both feeling like you're stuck in the bad timeline but with the sad knowledge there are no other timelines and this is just it.

>>11679079
Spiritually it did. Tekken exists because Namco poached the Virtua Fighter people from Sega.

>>11679079
VF was followed by VF2, one of the guys who worked on it made Tekken
So… What do you mean? VF5 was relevant in Japan. Or do you mean VF1 specifically with moon jumping?

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>>11678904
The game developers of the 70s and 80s played it. People who played games created by those developers would go on to make their own games. This process repeats ad infinitum, and Maze War is influential by induction.

By this same principle, it is my opinion that Spacewar! (1962) is the most influential video game. It may not be the oldest video game, but it is the oldest game played by those who would go on to make their own games. If you go back far enough, all video games have a lineage that leads back to Spacewar!

>>11679059
looool

>>11679059
>Flashback
Ah, this reminds me of Prince of Persia. Another example of an influential game.

>>11678153
It was the first game where you got to commit crime

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>>11679376
>doesn't consider rape a crime
Um..., based?

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>>11679502
>rape
She's clearly into it, further proven by the role-reversal version.

No Halo, shit list

>>11679376
>It was the first game where you got to commit crime

Mario has commited multiple crimes against turtlekind since 1983. Pretty sure raiding tombs isn't something legal as well

>>11679510
>No Halo

The only based thing about this list.

>>11678875
>How is BAFTA reddit of TV and film
they are pretentious and insist upon themselves

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>>11678080
>no civilization
>ctrl+f 'civilization'
>0 results
>mfw

>>11678535
The Sims 2

>>11679059
You joke, but Stanford University made a list of the 10 most important games of all time (from nearly 20 years ago) included Sensible World of Soccer.
>Spacewar!
>Star Raiders
>Zork
>Tetris
>SimCity
>Super Mario Bros. 3
>Civilization I/II
>Doom
>Warcraft series
>Sensible World of Soccer

>>11678080
If this was GameFAGS, OoT and Squareslop would be all the way up to the top.

>>11679046
Yeah, all the failed animal mascots you euros shat out all of the sudden.

>>11679046
>other than autism?
That was Pokemon btw

>>11679842
Lol. But honestly, that whole list is kinda weird. Of course this being so old, you'd expect a few quirks, but still. Warcraft, of all games? Not even Dune 2/C&C? I guess the first few games kind of belong there, but really this list is very Bri'ish, PC first and foremost, strategies n shiet, no fun allowed. SMB3 still made it, guess it's because it inspired all the yuroformers

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>>11678120
>SF2 gave birth to a genre
Everything SF2 did, Pit Fighter did earlier and better.

>>11680000
>this list is very Bri'ish,
Standord University isn't British though.
I suspect the problem is that the academics involved didn't have any idea what question they were actually asking, so it's no wonder their answer doesn't make much sense.

>>11679554
It had a massive influence on the fps genre

>>11678080
>1. Shenmue (dont know)
>2. Doom (epic)
>3. Super Mario Bros. (ok)
>4. Half-Life (there are tons of better fps or more inovative ones)
>5. The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time (shities popular jrpg ever!!!!!!!!!!!)
>8. Super Mario 64 (ugly shit)
>9. Half-Life 2 (even more unimportant than hl1, even cs mod for hl1 is more important then both hl1 and hl2 together)
>10. The Sims (kek)
>11. Tetris (1984) (shure thing)
>12. Tomb Raider (1996) (definitly where influential on 90s popculture)
>13. Pong (1972) (ok boomer)
>14. Metal Gear Solid (1998) (epic)
>15. World of Warcraft (2004) (dogshit, but influential for weirdos)
>17. Final Fantasy VII (1997) (yes)
>19. Grand Theft Auto 3 (2001) (yes)
>21. Grand Theft Auto (1997) (was shit gta2 was the first good one)

>>11681183
no, it was just popular in america. there was like nothing spectacular or new in this game.

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>>11679046
It essentially paved the way for SEGA, and for the 1st time Nintendo "lost" at least for a brief while.

>>11679064
Also this. Sonic's based and important.

>>11678080
>1. Shenmue (never heard of it)
>2. Doom (HELL YES!)
>3. Super Mario Bros.(Good)
>4. Half-Life (Awesome)
>5. The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time (Good)
>8. Super Mario 64 (Fantastic)
>9. Half-Life 2 (Fantastic)
>10. The Sims (Meh)
>11. Tetris (1984) (it was okay)
>12. Tomb Raider (1996) (never played it)
>13. Pong (1972) (meh)
>14. Metal Gear Solid (1998) (never played it)
>15. World of Warcraft (2004) (tried it, didn't care)
>17. Final Fantasy VII (1997) (never played it)
>19. Grand Theft Auto 3 (2001) (probably played it?)
>21. Grand Theft Auto (1997) (never played it)

>>11678080
Resident Evil 1
Resident Evil 4
Dark Souls 1

>>11678080
Missing Wizardry or Ultima.

>>11678080
Every list has to have that
>how do we bait engagement, clicks, discussion
pick, something controversial at the top

>>11678080
>no Pacman
>no Space Invaders
>no Street Fighter II
>no Halo
>no Sega aside from Shenmue
>fucking Shenmue
>GTA 1 for some reason
>The Sims for some reason
I know OP excluded the modern games from the list because they're not /vr/ but holy shit what fucking retard decides that a game that came out 60 days ago is the #7 most influential game of all time? At least the incest horror game probably influenced some people to fingerbang their sisters; what is the influence of KCD2? Stupid cunts.

>>11678080
I would definitely swap these around but the /vr/ picks are pretty good
including a game released this year is extremely retarded however and I completely dismiss anything this organization has to say

>>11678080
Tetris doesn't belong on "most influential" lists.
Obviously tetris is super popular and may have helped launch handheld gaming to the public with the gameboy, but its sort of isolated from the wider gaming sphere. Games design wasn't changed after tetris released the same way 3d platformers changed after Mario 64 or fps development changed after Doom and then Quake.

>>11683551
So many puzzle games are straight up Tetris clones.

>>11683551
Every stack 'em up is inevitably compared to Tetris.

>>11678080
>1. Shenmue
ok
>2. Doom
overrated but fun
>3. Super Mario Bros.
my first game and it was fun
>4. Half-Life
good game
>5. The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time
shit game
>8. Super Mario 64
shit game
>9. Half-Life 2
great game
>10. The Sims
no opinion.
>11. Tetris (1984)
classic
>12. Tomb Raider (1996)
good game
>13. Pong (1972)
no opinion but I like IRL pong at arcades
>14. Metal Gear Solid (1998)
great game
>15. World of Warcraft (2004)
no opinion
>17. Final Fantasy VII (1997)
good game
>19. Grand Theft Auto 3 (2001)
great game
>21. Grand Theft Auto (1997)
lol no it's shit