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Running Out of Ideas Edition

Screen Utility - https://shauninman.com/utils/screens/
Handheld Comparison - https://retrocatalog.com/
Google chart - https://tinyurl com (slash) AllHandhelds
has anyone asked my question before? - https://4search.neocities.org/vr
Compare handheld sizes - https://retrosizer.com/
Handy Handheld info - https://handhelds.wiki

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>>12021923
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added https://handhelds.wiki - thanks anon from last thread
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Not a great time to start a new thread, what with the spam threads and the mods not doing anything about them.
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>>12058381
previous thread hit the bump limit, and spammers are always going to spam
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>>12058356
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CoTax_VFgo0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8HE64QSs64
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>>12058356
Anyone else have the rp mini v2? Was wondering if there is a way to make the speakers not complete shit. By far worst speakers on any device I've ever owned. If you don't have the volume at least medium the bass and soft tunes just cut basically outt gives me a headache somehow when I hear it. I can tell you for certain none of the day plugins help, bass boost does a bit but definitely still bad.
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>>12058564
Dsp plugins*
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now what
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>>12058564
Wasn't there a sort of fix forthe RP5 speakers? Wouldn't it work on the Mini ones as well?
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Replaced that busted wonderswan crystal screen
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>>12058689
grats
is it backlit?
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>>12058678
Put muos on it if updated stock feels like shit. Download roms and bios. Maybe some portmaster stuff. Play and avoid anything pico 8
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>>12058356
Thor waiting room
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>>12058794
1-4 and the hinge is shit. 4-9 and the input lag get fixed before release. 0 and powkiddy saves dual screens.
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Why am I so addicted to buying these chinese plastic pieces of shit I barely play
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>>12058564
https://old.reddit.com/r/retroid/comments/1i2sj4w/jdsp4rp5_improve_speaker_audio_quality_through/
should be this one
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The battery life of my old rg353m is suddenly shit. What do?
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Redflags for Thor
>terrible dpad and right stick ergonomics
>terrible speaker position
>inevitable hinge FUD
>Lagdroid
>using styles on capacitive touchscreens doesn't give off the "magic" feel according to RGC
>imput delay bug(it's a feature)

This is turning out to be a beta test. Maybe in a year we will actually get ones that are well designed and cheaper
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>>12058835
but I really want it...
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>>12058696
Went with the genuine replacement. I have enough capable handhelds so I wanted it as intended (also saved some money)
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>>12058814
Ah yeah? Dubs and Thor will be GOATed fr hit that
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>>12058678
Now you put the newest version of Knulli on it and play some goddamn games, anon. Have fun.
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Do you guys have an image of various handhelds I can look at and compare? like an infographic or even just an MS paint image with like 10 or 20 of them with the names? Curious what form factors and shapes/looks there are for these.
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>>12058908
https://retrosizer.com/ if you're after how big things are in comparison to each other
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>>12058821
Meanwhile, I'm paralysed by options and decisions to even buy one.

I think I'm going to buy either a Miyoo Mini Plus or an RP35XXP, but then I see that yellow Retroid Pocket Classic and question all my decisions.
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>>12058947
What aspects of these are you divided/hung up on?
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>>12058835
>imput delay bug
will always be a problem with dual screened devices with shitdroid or modern linux.
you simply cannot sync 2 displays without significant framebuffering.
the long single screened approach is the only way with current software.
and even then capacitive screens are just not the same as resistive ones when it comes to DS games.
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Come home white man
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these "clone" devices are kino
praying that ambernig comes out with a GBC clone next
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>>12058947

From what I understand, playability out the box (Miyoo Mini) clamshell form factor that is playable with some tinkering (RP35XXSP) and generally higher quality and nicer looking/playing handheld (Retroid Classic). I also occassionally get drawn by the Retroid Pocket Flip too. I have a Steam Deck and am really looking for a smaller, pocketable device.

Generally I'm looking to emulate mainly handheld games, so GB, GBC, GBA, GG, Maybe Lynx (I have a decent solution for living room consoles), but I might do some SNES, N64 and PSX stuff occasionally.
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why is there no OLED vertical GBC looking Anbernic handoheldu~
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I just got an RG35XX Pro and it came with some no name SD card. I know these are crap and I have a 128 GB card ready, but apparently I need specifically a 64 GB one to flash the OS to? Or is there a way to flash it to the 128 GB and not bother?
64 GB cards aren't expensive, but I don't feel like buying another card just for that.
Or should I just ditch the stock OS and move to muOS immediatelly.
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im glad the chinks have realized they suck at designing things and should just be cloning superior JOMON electronics.
again asking for a 'nig GBC
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>>12058908
you can browse retrocatalog.com

there are other helpful links in the OP
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>called the Pocket Fit
>doesn't fit in your pocket
False advertising
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>>12058947

In my honest opinion, Anbernic has much better quality buttons, and overall plastic husk than Miyoo.

Miyoo Mini Plus by itself feels like a nice, fine DELICATE device by itself, but the moment you have an RG35XX or RG280V to compare it to in the same moment, it is impossible not to notice the firmer buttons, the sturdier shoulders, the hardened husk....

And MuOS just got the latest update Canadian Goose, which is simply amazing and has already surpassed OnionOS, if only OnionOS has great FTP Server capabilities but it is capped at 2MB/s while it does not allow for USB transfers. MuOS allows to convert the device into a USB drive so you dont have to eject the card and corrupt it by mounting it to your PC, it is much easier to avoid corruption using the device itself as a card reader.

Also if you want to listen to music OnionOS is stuck with the horrendous GMU music player with esoteric controls. MuOS has included ROCKBOX player through PORTMASTER, which is much easier to navigate, has skins, and shows album art.

And on the music side: Miyoo Mini Plus, even with headphones, is barely audible outside. In a silent room it is good enough for modest music playing, but on the streets it is overriden by cars and traffic.

Anbernic devices (both my RG280V and RG35XX) have better volume, you can wear earphones and rise the volume up to the max and beat the traffic noise without it being deafening like Iphone earphnes which were absurdly loud, but loud enough to really make music clear and have deep bass while walking on the main street.
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>>12058706
>and avoid anything pico 8
based.
what is the point of that crappy imaginary system with no games?
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>>12059239
and yet, they still fuck them up.
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>>12058835
It'll be great to grab it and the Ayaneo Pocket DS secondhand at least.
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>>12059517
umm sweaty that's not true, you can see here it obviously fits inside Russ's pocket
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>>12058947
for vertical, the brick.
for horizontal, the r46h.
simple as.
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>>12059650
Is that a brick or are you happy to see me?
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>>12058880
Keep in mind that screen will degrade over time worse than many other OEM screens.
>(also saved some money)
Its pretty whack how getting an ips WS screen can cost you more than the WS itself.
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>>12059650
dpad looks like shit
god those tats are so fucking gay. imagine branding yourself
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How much is the 40xx an improvement over 35xx in terms of ergonomics/screen? The 35xx I got feels kinda small in my hands
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Fuck man. On paper this is almost the perfect handheld and I'd easily drop the money on this, but it pains me too much that only the LCD model has VRR and not the OLED one. Fucking why?
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New gooning device acquired - now I can watch my favorite content on the go on two screens at once
in seriousness the browser is pretty unreliable and shits the bed pretty quickly, memory is too low in this device
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>>12059949
Ayaneo devices would be perfect if they weren't priced for millionaires.
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>>12059207
>should I just ditch the stock OS and move to muOS immediatelly
yes

>>12059840
which 40XX, the horizontal or vertical?
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>>12060157
Vertical
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Which one to run old games and indies on Winlator?
200usd is my budget
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>>12060290
Anything Snapdragon. Winlator is little more than a proof of concept still, mind you.
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>>12060157
The idea behind two cards is even more important with MuOS.

Each update you must flash MuOS again to the first card, but you can keep all your settings, folders, covers, etc.. in SD, so you can update seamesly.

If you place all your roms and settings in a single SD then when you update you will lose everything, or will have to backup in the PC to transfer it back again after the update.

a slow 64gb original Sandisk should be about 5 bucks, it is simply worth it.
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>>12059069
Is your lazy pale imitation of me an attempt at pastiche? Or are you trying to besmirch the good name of AI Anon? Suppose I should be flattered.

I will say that it takes a lot more than writing in a prompt to get half decent results from those services. You need artfulness.
Looks like you used pik, I tend to get better use from Prome. but I did get 1 decent result from Pik that I then refined in other sites. Some of the gens do look alright. Very retro, like they were somehow made in the 80's/ early 90's.
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>trackball
finally I can play marble madness on the go
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>>12059517
"Dear AyaNeo/KonkR
Could you make a single screen clamshell with the Konkr Pocket Fit 8 Elite specs? I would need 2 TF card slots and some extra USB ports too (4 USB 'A' in front and 2 USB 'C' at the rear,+ a HDMI out there too ideally. Perhaps it is also a good place to store the second SD card slot beneath the HDMI port?) for the Ideal handheld I would purchase. Are you planning an AMOLED screen for future projects like this possibly? This is something that would also be desirable. Dpad at the top is also wanted for better ergonomic pressing. Far more complicated pressing is done on the dpad than using the analogue lever. Consider at least making a swappable directional module for the parts to be reversed at will. "

12RAM 256gb Early Bird price -$299.
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>>12058821
Dopamine. Its over for you. Keep consooming.
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>>12059979
There's a lot of yellow on that screen...
And I don't just mean the nice radies..
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>>12058834
replace it?
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Anyone know if the MagicX Zero 40 is worth getting for pinball and shmups?
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>>12060492
This could be designed better. Look at how un-ergonomic the trackball position is. Also they pretend their design cues are just for D'Atari games, Not emulation/cfw. But no Atari games needed stacked shoulders and an analogue. If anything they should be leaning into the more utility design by embracing an open, more high powered device with trackball on the right and dpad on top, natch.
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>>12060594
Not a bad idea.
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SOULJA BOY GAME 2 JUST ANNOUNCED
MOVE OVER AYN
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any opinions on the R36Ultra?

i've been seeing a lot of offers in Temu for the different R36's and i do like the idea of the square screen to start a collection. but i want to see how reliable those are compared to say, the ambernics before pulling the trigger.
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>>12060698
I swear that Powkiddy was selling that exact device ages ago. I would have nothing but respect for Soulja Boi if he can convince a bunch of dumb suckers to buy some grossly overpriced, outdated chinkhelds.
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heyyy, the MCON is coming out soon!
>the MCON will retail for about $150, at least according to the Kickstarter campaign that concluded in February.
oh nvm
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>>12060762
r36 isn't worth it anymore, and all the "upgraded" versions are just cheap shit for third worlders
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>>12060785
That thing is a rebranded powkiddy and the soulja boi brand did that since forever. They would sell old mips handhelds from anbernic in a deal with their prices inflated up the ass.
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>>12060792
I think I'd rather settle on the Anbernic Slide or whatever Ayaneo's android equivalent is.

>>12060210
NTA but while I never got the RG35XX I dont see the RG40XXV being that much more comfortable outside of playing basic RPG games. I really would recommend you grab the RG40XX H instead, beyond having another analog stick and stacked shoulder buttons its just as pocketable, probably goes for the same price too.
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Too much bad clones. You might be better off with the k36max if you're fine with only batocera or the cubexx on sale. Of course, your gamble might wield you a proper unit, but that's up to you.
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do you think decent PS3 emulation will ever be possible in the RP3?
i saw a video that you can now play some light weighted PSN games on it, so i was wondering if its more a hardware limitation or a software one
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>>12060807
Yeah I'm probably going to pick up the H, I like the look of the V more but don't want to get arthritis
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>>12060862
That's unfortunately the one advantage the 40XXV has over the H. The transparent black model really does look nice in person and is far less prone to smudges compared to the regular black on the H.
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>>12060820
meant for >>12060762

>>12060825
The 3+ is way too weak for ps3 much less the original 3. Very lightweight gamecube can run on h700 devices. Doesnt mean its software related.
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>>12060886
Shit i mean the 5, i mixed the numbers
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>>12059979
Busting to Izuna rule 34 on my DSi will always be my favorite desperate teenage fap. Kids today don't know how tough we had it, but honestly8 I miss the innovation the limitations brought
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>Thor preorders shipping in less than 3 weeks
>No review units sent out
>Unfixed latency in every product showcase video
>WE PROMISE WE'LL FIX IT, THIS ISN'T VAPORWARE YOU GUYS
>Odin 2 still has latency after 2 years

It's still gonna be endgame, right?
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>>12061009
Max zhou will save dual screens...
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picked this thing from a flea market for a dolla hoping it would be broken and I could learns some electronics on it but it seems to be working. Before I take it apart, can I put my own roms on it?
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>>12061171
>can I put my own roms on it
no
they're all contained in the image flashed to the soc and there's no expandable storage
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>>12060862
I haven't found the V to be uncomfortable except when playing button mashing games like street fighter. So far I've completed a few Zelda games, SotN, parasite eve on it - no issues. I would like an H for the second joystick though.
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>>12058356
ENTER
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>>12060157
>>12060862
I definitely agree with this guy >>12060807, the 40XX-H is just about perfect to me and I'd recommend it to anyone, any day. But if you'd really rather a vertical, I'd say the 40 is quite a bit more comfortable than the 35. The 35, I have to do a fingertip grip, which works just fine. But with the 40 I can get more of a... whatever you'd call this grip, I dunno. I'll call it a cradle grip I guess. If I try cradling the 35, it kinda works, but the angle just doesn't play nice with the shoulder buttons. Problem with the regular 35 is I think you have better options no matter which way you look now. Want to use a comfy cradle grip? 40XXV has you covered, and having that bigass screen is fantastic. Fingertip grip work just fine, and want to maximize pocketability? Well I just got my TrimUI Brick, and can already tell you the lower positions of the shoulder buttons enable it to do fingertip grip better and more comfortably than the 35, plus it's got that higher-resolution screen. Want a cradle grip but also twin sticks and/or more pocketability than the 40? 35 Pro is here now to save the day, the added height makes cradling it almost as good as on the 40, and the white model looks just as lovely as its big brother.

So for the 40 specifically, yes it's comfortable, and surprisingly so for a flatter vertical that doesn't have the kind of curves the 406V for instance has. I genuinely don't think you have anything to worry about with it. If that was the only thing holding you back, then go get you a 40XXV, I think you'll be real happy with it.
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>>12061235
Meant to quote >>12059840 as well
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>>12061223
>very thin so probably little battery
>vita sticks
>android inputs with passive cooling, supposed to be cheap so not much power
>face buttons look like they could be a repeat of the SP
>no stylus slot
I think they fucked up on the price bracket. Nice color at least, anbernig never uses red.
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>>12061223
Man, I just bought a DSi LL from Japan last month before the de mememis tariff thing happened and now there's 3 dual screen options on the market. At least it was cheap and barely used...

Wonder how much this one will cost though, it's hard to beat the entry-level AYN Thor that has a top screen that's actually fit for 3DS games. Since the screen isn't for 3DS I'm betting it's probably a T820 and will go for around $180.
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>>12061257
T820 can't run on passive cooling, this might be a G99 at best, maybe weaker to keep price down.
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>>12061262
If that's the case, I can't imagine this being more than $120. DS Lites and DSis can be found for a little over half that price, as well as the MagicX Zero 40. I can't imagine being able to play N64 and Dreamcast is going to sweeten the pot very much.
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>>12058356
all i want is the miyoo mini flip. The buttons on the flip were awesome. A smaller version would be perfect
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>>12061346
I can't imagine using something smaller than the regular Flip, personally. Plus the fact there's no headphone jack or Bluetooth is a big turnoff, it's competing with the V90S at that point, which will probably still be cheaper when this actually comes out. At least OnionOS is actually supported on this, I was so disappointed by how dogshit the CFW scene was on the Flip that I swapped it for a 34XXSP, the hinge meme was just the cherry on top.
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>>12061262
>>12061328
it was already confirmed on baidu to be t620 weeks ago and meant to be super cheap so 120 sounds right. I kneel, max.
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How shitty is the battery life on ayaneo pocket micro? I have a trimui brick now which has a bigger battery and a smaller screen, and I'd rate its battery life as decent/passable. Am I going to regret splurging on the pocket micro?
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you genuinely do not need more than a 3326.
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>>12061393
Had autocorrect on. I meant 3566 of course.
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>>12061395
more powerdraw for nothing. 3566 sucks for n64, psp and DC
might as well enjoy the 7+ hour battery of kino 3326 devices
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>>12061398
>7+ hour battery
On linux? I thought rockshit devices only had that type of battery optimization on android?
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>>12061223
If this is fake/AI, the Anbernic render "style" is remarkably easy to ape.

>>12061365
I wouldn't call 120 super cheap, but whatever, still think they should have went straight for the 3DS at that price point. You're just selling for weirdos who want to run N64 on a DS and the cheevo kids who need the newer DS emulators for support.
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>>12061361
this is way smaller than the v90s. the whole point for me is to fit in my pocket without it being noticeable. My main device is the miyoo mini because the plus and flip are too chunky. I like how easy it is to hold with one hand. I just don't like the buttons and face being exposed in my pocket, catching on things
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>>12060820
Thanks for the heads up.

I was indeed reading about the clone things and how those have an inferior chipset and all. I guess it was obvious that theres no such thing as cheap decent quality handhelds. Or you fork 1500$peso for the 'cheapest' or dont fork at all.

The sales in temu were offering those at 500-750$peso.
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>>12058823
This seemed to have worked quite nicely. Thanks fag friendo
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>>12061876
>Ayn forced Anbernic to revive their DS project from way back when
kek.
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>>12058689
If I buy a wonderswan for parts how likely is it tat the screen is the issue? Are these things easy to repair like gameboys?
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>>12061903
>how likely is it tat the screen is the issue?
Every WS I found on yahoo auctions had a degraded screen.
>Are these things easy to repair like gameboys?
You need to take the WS apart and unhook stuff + remove the adhesive pads + strip around the screen. If you drop in an OEM screen it doesn't need solder if I recall correctly but an IPS/backlist screen does.
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>crave a GB/GBC handheld because always wanted it as a kid
>buy RG40XXV, it's okay
>realise all my good "handheld" memories other than emulating Pokemon Yellow and Gold come from emulating GBA
>buy RG34XX, it's okay
>RG40 can run N64, PS1, DC, PSP but now I crave handheld GC/PS2/Wii emulation
>buy RP2, it's yet to arrive but I know it will be okay, it has to be okay
>as I wat I crave 3DS emulation because I missed out on that and it's kinda ass on my other chinkhelds, surely Thor will satiate this hunger, it will most definitely be okay
>but I also crave an handheld capable of emulating Wii U and Switch, emulating on my PC isn't enough, it just isn't okay enough
what is even happening
help me
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>>12062115
Retro Hand Held ownership is an RPG
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>>12062058
"You Will Never Be A CRT"
Why even obsess over it?
It is a 5% improvement that rises the price 150% more.
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>>12061430
>the whole point for me is to fit in my pocket without it being noticeable
no interest in the RG34XX SP? It's smaller than the v90s and RG35XX SP
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>>12062340
Probably getting one for myself this Christmas if it has some discount in Aliexpress.
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>>12062115
I know the struggle
>be me
>2023
>buy trimui model S because all I want is NES, SNES, GBA and below
>don't mind the size, but indicator light is too bright, and it's not powerful enough to emulate some GBA romhacks which is what it turns out is what I really want
>2024
>buy RG35XXH because all I want is GBA romhacks, and maybe some PS1
>become obsessed with what it can do, keep trying to push it with postmaster and N64
>drain the battery doing this everyday and get scared of the battery exploding and stop using it all together
>but that's okay, what I really want is something that can play PS1 and below, not blow up, and be portable
>2025
>get Miyoo Mini v4
>It's been basically perfect, I can take it anywhere, I can play most games I want on it and it looks and feels good
>play some DS games by switching the screen around
>hmmm... I think what I really want is something that is something that can play DS
>Thor announced
>here we go again
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>>12062365
very happy with mine - thought it'd only be good for GBA and Portmaster, but doesn't scale badly for PS1 and such. Feels like an SP that does everything
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>Symmetrical dual screens (top & bottom)
>High-quality hinge
>Triple-digit price
>For lovers of retro dual-screen handhelds

This is my next handheld.
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>>12062479
>High-quality hinge
I'll believe it when I see it. (and by that I mean wait 6 months after people have it in their hands)
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>>12062494
to be fair ambernic is the only one that managed to not have hinge problems out of all the chinese handhelds and the SP sold like a ton too.
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>>12062479
>>Triple-digit price
>for a DS
I'll pass. If I absolutely needed something to play DS games on, a DSi XL/LL can be found for $60. DS lites are even less.
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>>12062501
charging the DS is a huge pain in the butt and the DS is so old that all the screens are yellow now.
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Bought a jewtroid pocket 5, going to just suck off tech dweeb and copy his setup unless there's something better.
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>>12061876
>>12062479
>Vita thumbsticks instead of superior 3DS slider
why?
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>>12062503
USB power adapters exist, and screens can be unyellowed..
I'm not paying more than $60 for a machine that exists to play DS games.
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>>12062496
>ambernic is the only [Headcanon]
They didn't make an sp shaped clamcell for the longest time because of pic related. Who got it right thrice in a row
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>>12062519
That's ai. The video is ai too, but max acutally made it. Even if it was a joke to mock the thor.
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What's the minimum I need to play saturn and ps1 games reliably?
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>>12062672
magimi air x, there's less expensive but its better to just spend a little extra for 5x upscaling
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>>12062672
Any x86 handheld
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>>12062520
Yeah faggot, spend almost 200 bucks on some greasy, yellowed DS off eBay that probably reeks of cigarette smoke and has skin gunk into the buttons... or just grab a 1:1 Android clone that does the same thing and way more
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>>12062340
The 34xxsp has identical dimensions to the miyoo flip, which i already own and is bigger than I want. I do really like the 3:2 screen though
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>>12062721
>$200
You being unable to shop doesn't make your glorified DS machine any more appealing.
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the ambernig ds looks fucking kino
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>>12062721
Why bother with lagdroid when anbernic is making a linux version later? Max isn't even shitposting with that one.
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>>12062729
fair enough, I do like the idea of a clamshell bigger than the Funkey S and smaller than the SP. Perfect for pockets. Hopefully the hinge is, well. . .
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>>12061009
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>>12062751
yes, the hinge is my only concern. The flip really is great now other than the hinge, even though 10 months later mine works fine, it sounds and feels like shit. The microswitch buttons are the quietest of any handheld i've tried, the screen is good, spruce is honestly better than onionOS at this point. Just the damn hinge...
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>>12062479
If its about the same screen sizes as a DSi XL with good enough integer scaling, I'm buying one day one. Already own an N3DS XL and I'm not that passionate about the library.
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>>12062721
jesus
I bought my DSi a few months ago for $20. What the hell are these ebayfags smoking
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>>12062721
>a 1:1 Android clone
you don't know what those words mean
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>>12062735
>Japanese UI.
Think for one second why someone might want a non-JP copy.
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>>12062735
>Yellowing on the top and bottom of the screen. Surface scratches. Bottom screen scratches. Non-genuine stylus.
>The four corners of the lower screen are blackened.The bottom left corner of the cross key is broken.
>There is yellowing on the left and right sides of the screen. No stylus. There are scratches on the main body.
>The entire bottom screen is yellowed. There are scratches on the screen. No touch pen.
oof
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>>12062907
i don't see any of that in the picture, are you just making shit up?
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>>12062915
did you even check the store before shilling it? or just grab the first 'good enough' because you're retarded
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>>12062905
It takes 15 minutes to mod the thing with a <$10 SD card and switch the language to English. Even if you don't do that, it's not like the games are region locked.
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>>12062927
that image is the Dark Brown [1] listing
as per the page's description:
>Dark Brown [1] - (Rank:S) Both top and bottom screen edges have slight yellowing.
seems like you were just making shit up
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>>12059239
I still hate Ambernic for fucking up the Glacier color. It's supposed to be light blue tinted, not fucking charcoal.
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>>12062937
The only DS variant worth buying is a New 3DS XL or the LL from Japan.

Why?

Because it can play 3DS games easily and DS games via Twilight Menu.
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>>12062940
which brown one from the store, all I see are
>The stylus storage is a little loose. There are many scratches on the surface, and some scratches on the back. The upper screen is slightly dark overall and has yellowing around the edges. The lower screen has some yellowing around the edges.
>The entire bottom screen is yellowed. There are scratches on the screen. No touch pen.
>No stylus, surface has scuffs and scratches, sides and back have small scuffs (more on back), top screen has slight dust inside with slightly dark edges, bottom screen edges are slightly yellowed, and buttons show some shine with tiny marks.
>There are scratches on the surface. There are some scratches on the back. The upper screen edge is slightly dark. The lower screen edge is slightly yellowed. There is a slight shine around the buttons.
and all of them with
>Please note that even high-ranked products may have scratches and dirt typical of used products. Since it has not been tested for a long time, the charging time and battery life have not been confirmed.
you DO know why people prefer new to used, right?
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>>12062975
The one that someone bought since I posted the listing, instead of waiting for your $200 DS emulator.
Wasn't hard to find in the first place. Just don't click on the first listing you see and I'm sure you can find one just as good.
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>>12062984
>Just don't click on the first listing you see
yeah, I clicked on 8 and they all sucked
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>>12062735
Disregarding this anon's listing that is clearly for a beat up DSi, you can find them for around this price if you just take the time to sift through beat up crap and overpriced listings. After almost a dozen pages of bad deals, I found a DSi LL that had good screens without any yellowing or scratches, the original stylus, and no wear other than a small chip on the top lid from probably getting dropped once. $76 and it included a charger and a free Dragon Quest game (it was obviously in Japanese though, but I have the ROM for it so it was nice to own physically in some form). This was on eBay and earlier this year before the tariffs though, you could probably find a better deal on Yahoo Auctions if you can navigate that.
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>>12062995
>I clicked on 8
You never made it off the first page. You never use eBay before?
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>>12063027
>sure, the first 8 cupcakes contained shit, but why not try the 9th?
No thank you, pretty sure there ain't no Coupe de Ville hiding at the bottom of a Cracker Jack box
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>>12062965
Back when they were on Facebook for like $90, sure. The problem is the N3DSXL nowadays is about as expensive as the AYN Thor lite model. Would I rather pay $250 for a brand new device with OLED screens, better controls, more storage, integer scaling, and the ability to emulate games way beyond SNES and some PSX, or a significantly weaker second-hand device that has a proprietary charger and aging screens just because it has a 3D gimmick that was scrapped on half the models? The DSi XL/LL makes sense because it's still a relatively cheap device (was way cheaper years ago, like $30-$50, but it could be a lot worse) and has better screens than most 3DS models that are properly fit for DS games. That's why it's important that the Anbernic DS which is clearly targeting DS emulation and not 3DS needs to be like $130 tops or it's just not a good deal.
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>>12063051
If you can scour aliexpress for good chinkheld deals or not buy a shit r36s clone, you can do the same for used handhelds.

>>12063060
>Thor
I'd agree with you if you said the ayaneo ds. Ayn will disappoint people without knowing it.
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>People unironically soifacing over the anbernig dual shit
Thor waitchads, will you pity them when the price is revealed to be over 150?
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>>12063075
The T618 should be a $100-120 chip by now, anything more is highway robbery.
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>>12063074
Honestly, the early bird pricing for the Ayaneo DS could probably on par with the N3DSXL as well, if you factor in the upcharge of hunting down a model with dual IPS screens in great condition on top of probably having to pay somewhat more for Western XLs or tariffs on Japanese LLs.
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>>12063074
>you can do the same for used handhelds.
incorrect - if I buy a shitty R36S whatever from Aliexpress it's brand new.
If I buy a used DS from ebay I've entered the lottery system - will the screen be good? Ouendan scratches? Battery on the way out?
That's why most people prefer to buy new. It's not completely without risk but the R36S hopefully has less semen stains
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>>12063098
It might be new, but it still counts as luck if you get one with a rk3128 instead of 3326. Some clones without even the 28 have sub m17 performance. But those seem to be being phased out?
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>>12063106
that is true as well - there are so many of these that Joe Public wouldn't know where to start, I wouldn't be surprised if some people still fall for the 500-in-1 famiclones
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>>12062965
Completely wrong. If you are coming from a western 3DS and want to carry over any of your data like your play log, previous purchases, or even want to use Pokemon Bank then a Japanese model is the worst one you can get. Region changing cannot be done on a 3DS because it requires a virgin system that has never touched the eShop at all if you want access to the eShop and thereby Pokemon Bank, but it also breaks the DS side in its entirety if you do so.

If you are someone who does not care about Pokemon and doesn't already have a 3DS then sure, a Japanese model can be fine, but I bet you most people have some form of 3DS or 2DS wanting to upgrade to a New 3DS or New 2DS and they can't because Japanese models have such annoying restrictions if they want to upgrade.
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>>12060586
Yeeaah that’s a big minus of oem nintendo ds’es - the guaranteed ips screen on dsixl is really nice but it yellows just as bad as others - I might try that deyellowing trick from gbatemp but Im afraid it sounds like bogus
>>12061008
True, when it comes to overcoming limitations the ds homebrew scene is amazing
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>>12061008
Unironically found out about 4chan this way when I was 13 by lurking on my DSi to jack off. I thought if my mom could still find my internet history somehow but I figured 4chan sounded less suspicious than juggworld xxx or whatever at the time.
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>>12063097
>Dual IPS
>400$
how i really hate these retards.
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>>12063323
>Poke Bank
>Breaking ds side
Aren't these not a problem anymore?
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>>12063518
Nope. Even the current hacking guide still states they break.
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>>12063536
Ds side can at least be fixed woth twl fix. The whole thing can be fixed in general with a soap transfer, but if want to autisimo with pokebank that much, why change the region at all? You're just playing games. Online multiplayer is just pretendo now, which is sadly still run by retardera freaks
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>>12063542
>why change the region at all
Because if you actually want to use Pokemon Bank for what it's worth i.e. transferring to Home then you have to be in the same region as your home account because it's tied to your NNID/eShop account. Japanese 3DSes will only be able to connect to the Japanese side of Pokemon Bank and therefore if you put any Pokemon into it you won't be able to pull them out outside of a Japanese account on future Pokemon games. Region changing allows you to sign into your NNID/eShop account and actually use Pokemon Bank at all.

Soap transfers require you to risk what is functionally your account ID with random people on Discord and do you seriously want to do that?
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>still no review units
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>>12063586
I think they are waiting until October
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>onionos refuses to find half my roms 4norasin
Tiring
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>>12063553
anyone who cares that much about pokemon has had a nds and 3ds for a long time.
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>>12063675
Yeah, but I want a N3DS and this is something I'm having to deal with as someone who wants to migrate all my game saves, programs, and account from the old 3DS to a N3DS. Finding one in your own region for a reasonable price is annoying, and these Japanese ones litter every shop.
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PSP-2000 doesn't detect battery and it won't charge it, but turns on from the charger. I already have a new battery ordered, any tips on what to do if that doesn't work?

>>12063536
>>12063542
>Ds side can at least be fixed woth twl fix.
This is right. I've done it many times. You just have to get a version of TWLFix that works, there's a version floating online that doesn't. 3DS Hacks website doesn't mention anything about breaking DS games in the region changing section for whatever reason. I'm actually about to do it again, will post a link to the working version when I do.
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>>12062520
how 2 unyellow
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>>12063897
You keep it turned on at max brightness for a few days. I think the yellowing is caused by humidity. Keeping the LED backlight on for some time heats up the screen and slowly "dries" it.
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>>12063937
that sounds like bullshit but ill try it
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You simply do not need anything more than a $20 batlexp G350.
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>>12063954
It helped a DSi XL that I had.
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So Dual screen handhelds are the next big thing now?

Interesting how emulation can offer a superior experience for nearly every system but with the DS and 3DS none of the alternatives feel better than using the original hardware
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>>12064057
The thor could change that, but I have an off feeling about it for some reason.
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Haven't posted here in a year is RGB30 still king or do I gotta spend money
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>>12064357
Have your tried Popcorn monitors?
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>>12064438
No



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