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=== CURRENT PROJECTS ===Duke It Out in /vr/Game : DN3D | Deadline : Jan 1st 2026Tile/Con pack: https://files.catbox.moe/thm4q7.zipRules: https://desuarchive.org/vr/post/11835634HOT POTATO, aka Deep /vr/ied PotatoGame : Doom 2, MBF21 | Deadline : HOTPOTATO99.wadRules: https://desuarchive.org/vr/post/12030515Latest build: HOTPOTATO76.WADhttps://files.catbox.moe/21pezp.zip=== CURRENT RELEASES ===/Vertex Relocation/IWAD : Doom 2 | Format : BoomRC5: https://www.doomworld.com/applications/core/interface/file/attachment.php?id=375336=== NEWS ===[9-28] Nightdive rereleasing Blood. Again.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sFjJU5lf2K0[9-26] Heretic + Hexen Update 1 was released. A very small patch for something that took almost two months.https://slayersclub.bethesda.net/en-US/article/heretic-hexen-update-1[9-24] Deus Ex Remastered announced, developed by Aspyrhttps://youtu.be/f1RdKezTYNk [Embed][9-23] Crispy Doom v7.1 releasedhttps://fabiangreffrath.github.io/crispy-homepage/[9-17] AMC Squad Episode 5 releasedhttps://www.moddb.com/games/the-amc-tc/news/amc-squad-episode-5-release[9-17] DBP76: Stagnant Weather is out now!https://doomer.boards.net/thread/4139[9-16] Comic Doom 96 updated to V4https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/146746[9-13] Somewhere in Hell releasedhttps://www.moddb.com/mods/somewhere-in-hell[9-12] Call of the Void releasedhttps://www.moddb.com/mods/quake-ii-call-of-the-void/[9-11] Esselfortium releases full texture sets for for BTSX E1 & E2 for usehttps://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/155111/[9-10] Vertex Relocation finally completed!https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/155093[9-10] Official DBP WADs repositoryhttps://archive.org/details/dbp-wad-archive=== PREVIOUS ===https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-vrTgPGmlLwdO5VHHCJMxmRD05E6XlNmqHIN8aykRG0TO SUBMIT NEWS, REPLY TO THIS POST (ideally with the [MM-DD] date bracket)
Allright, what led to the previous thread to be offed to oblivion?
I can't believe they straight up said "yeah, the Blood remaster is broken forever, we're not fixing it, deal with it NERD". And I'm betting my left kidney Refreshed will still have broken things they will abandon eventually.
bnuuycaptcha: H8GR8
Holy lel, they actually deleted it at 500 replies. Based fucking mods. Megafaggot on absolute suicide watch.
>>12063843*425 replies
extreme janitorial meltdown
>>12063838the guy who was having a melty last thread was probably the OP and got all of his posts deleted, including the thread.
>>12063838I guess they finally banned and wiped him? Are his posts gome in the old thread too?
>>12063840Are we placing bets on who'll get the blame for it this time? Atari or WB or some other third party?
So why did you want me to download Doom II - No Rest for the Living (BFG Edition)?
I just want to talk about Doom on 4chan. When did shitflinging make that too much to ask for?
>>12063859>kino of the highest order wad exists>anon don't want to play itYour loss.
>>12063859Unrelated, but the mapset itself is pretty damn good. I should play it again.
>>12063859I also wondered about that. It's just a censored version.>>12063861Wider internet access means that it's become easier than ever for complete lunatics previously shunned by society to interact with you.
>>12063863I think he's puzzled by the BFG Edition part.
>>12063863I just wanted to play Moon Man TNT. Does Moon Man work with No Rest for the Living (BFG Edition)?
>>12063861After the janny holocaust things got more retarded. Since mm guy is now banned (for a while), and sarais has been probably taken to coo coo land (for a while), we have a moment of peace.
>>12063872Don't see why it wouldn't. NRFTL is kino though, I'll share it with you as soon as I unpack my groceries.
>>12063876>faggot updateHFFM update?
>>12063875Don't need to, I can download it just find from the archive.
>>12063882HFFM expansion might be cool. Harder, faster, faggotier.
>>12063854That wasn't obvious from the OP itself?
>>12063858>Atari or WB or some other third party?Everyone, but Nightdive. You would think that by 2025 people will stop treating any company as their friend, but instead you see plenty of nutjobs thanking Nightdive and defending them like it's their beloved family member.Such loyalty won't last forever, but it does make you wonder what will be the turning point for them.
>>12063885HFFM's name also came from the word bubble. This is clearly a sign that the bubble wants MORE faggotry.
>>12063882Commander Keen needs to be replaced with truck nuts.
>>12063892As long as the only other big remaster studio is Aspyr with their janky AI slop, people will keep jerking of Dumpsterdive as the second coming of Christ. The instant they get competent competition this will stop.
>>12063892>but it does make you wonder what will be the turning point for them.They'd have to seriously fuck something up hard since they're forgiving of stuff like the Blade Runner and Fresh Supply shit, and are even thanking them right now for the chance to preorder a patch with community mods to bulk it out.
>>12063892Well for me, it's not that black and white. They are not my friends, but they are not personally my arch enemies either. Just a company with either good or shit products. If they make good remasters, I buy. If they make shitty remasters, I won't buy. This new Blood goes to shit category. Turok 3 and RotT were good since there were no viable alternatives to play them on modern PCs. All Bethesda ones, I got for free, so didn't need to use my money for those. Liked the new expansions, but Nightdive didn't make the Quake ones (it was Machinegames).
>>12063876>everybody mapping>obviously elephant>gay trolling teleporter>definitely samefagging completely>alien files saw fact
>>12063901If they're offering Blood on console together with Death Wish, I would say that it's value for console-only fags, in the same way that Unity Doom was.On PC though it's not worth much.
Huh.Anyway, I remember shooting Xaser a message on Doomworld maybe a year ago, and he said "Oh yeah, maybe I should fix the VM Abort in Zen Dynamics." but I guess he never got around to doing that.I saw someone here say that there was a fix someone else made? I'd love for you to share it, Zen Dynamics is very much a demonstration project more than anything, cobbled together from other people's leftovers, but it was actually pretty good, too.
>>12063892How much tylenol his mother took for him to be this retarded and a self-centered prick?>>12063901Blade Runner's case was literally the ScummVM community acting like faggots towards all sides and Nightdive's ego.>>12063898Aspyr is cursed.They gave TR and SR to literal autistic fans who delivered, then they gave Deus Ex to indians.Still the TR Remasters are easy to mod as SR since raina's tism made sure everything from SR1 and 2 was added into the mix and OL+TR Forums people made sure everything was moddable.
>>12063916Xaser has a very bad habit of abandoning his projects:-Hacx 2.0-Epoch-The last map he decided to contribute for Stomper, but years later decided that fuck it and Stomper was left unfinished-D2TWiD:LE, even thought it has dozens of maps by different mappers waiting for releaseI like his work, but god damn the guy needs to finish what the promises to do.
>>12063936>D2TWiD:LEThere's one of those in the pipeline? Goddamn, I actually can't wait, I didn't just love DTWID and D2TWID, I really loved DTWID:LE.
>>12063838>>12063854I thought that usually only happens for spamming
>>12063834https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iAATp3PE2ygDoom mod that ports Bowie World.
>>12063834>>> CLASSIC DOOM CHALLENGE <<<Record a UV-fast run of Osiris TC - Map 03 "Cloud Of Fire" by Glen Payne and Marshal BostwickThe complevel is 2 (Doom 2). Don't forget the .deh file!Reply to this post with your demo & time..wad Download:https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/levels/doom2/m-o/osirishttps://dsdarchive.com/wads/osirisDSDArchive currently has no demo for Map 03 of Osiris, be the first!Example demo in 24:18:https://files.catbox.moe/6p1d5e.lmpPrevious thread winner: Osiris - Map 02 UV-Max in 6:53 and UV-speed in 2:05! >>12063197This one isn't very hard either, and honestly this was just an excuse for me to play more Osiris, but I'm happy the Wicked Witch is gone.As with last time, doing it with fast monsters is optional, but welcomed.
>>12063842There exists Daisy player skin
>>12063892As an early Nightdive detractor I've enjoyed seeing the goodwill turn but unfortunately its not fast enough to stop the damage it's going to do to retro shooters.Locking mods behind "remasters" in the guise of "keeping interests for the IP alive" for WB to make mobile live service games for (Monolith is defunct) is something I thought more people would see the bullshit in.
>>12063943Maybe they interpreted it as that? I have seen people get their posts wiped for when they get b& for illegal shit, so they do it for other things besides spamming.>>12064008How "locked" is it actually though? Unless they manage to somehow quash piracy of DOS games (good luck lmao) then they'll never have full control.
>>12063898>As long as the only other big remaster studio is Aspyr with their janky AI slopModern Digital Eclipse are more about re-releases, but they're the best as far as I can tell. Would've been nice to see them handle just any FPS game, even though they're all about emulation.There's also Limited Run Games... Fuck. This shit sucks. General Arcade isn't specifically a re-release/remaster group, but they done some stuff too. All the rest are situational.>The instant they get competent competition this will stop.That's just piece of a puzzle. It won't be just a competition, but Nightdive's growing hubris doing its thing.>>12063901>They'd have to seriously fuck something up hardTrue. And when they do, all that was forgiven will be back for dogpilling.>>12063903>Well for me, it's not that black and white.I'm sure some people there are great. Some of its work isn't great, but give credit where its due to Quake 2 and DOOM 64. I guess you can I'm balancing it out general perception with more negative attitude>Turok 3The lack of multiplayer and their attitude towards Rage Wars are very telling. I'm sure Nightdive will take on Quake 3 Arena if id asks them very nicely, but if Heretic+Hexen is anything to go by... I hope they don't.>>12063920>They gave TR and SR to literal autistic fans who deliveredThat was Saber (Russian branch, I believe), actually. All of those autistic fans were hired by them for Tomb Raider and Legacy of Kain back when Saber was with Embracer and they then kept ongoing deal.
>>12064008>something I thought more people would see the bullshit inThe target audience of these remasters is zoomers who get fake nostalgia for games they've never played from the e-celebs they watch, but are too dumb or lazy to use sourceports. You'll never get complaints out of them because they don't know any better and probably don't care enough to learn.Most people who played these games when they came out either aren't playing them anymore (or gaming at all), or are comfortable using sourceports and don't interact with these remasters on any level - including to point out how shit they are.
>>12064030That's a lot of projection and made up assumptions
>>12064030I'm not gonna say you're entirely wrong, but you aren't entirely right either, I see older people who played these games back in the day get roped in too.
>>12063943The guy went on pne of his bi-monthly schizphrenic breakdowns and straight up said he was baking generals with the Mm8dm pic incouded just to spite everyone and hadn't even played it himself, then taunted everyone and the moderation about how they couldn't do anything. It may not be "spam" but the reason for deletion is obvious.
So when is SIN Reloaded coming out?
>>12064030I just like the remasters with new campaigns, the ones for Doom 64, Quake and Hexen were pretty good
>>12064039Given that he latched on to and griped about the evil oppression of poor innocent little Sarais early on, do you think it was just him being a turbofag for the sake of it all along?Both are anti-social drug addicts after all.
>>12064040Right after Episode 2.
>>12064042Or maybe he actually did that just because he knew we hated it. I guess I shouldn't assume that quickly.
>>12064038>I see older people who played these games back in the day get roped in too.Yeah I know people who still have copies from the 90s, and absolutely ought to know better but are still begging for Nightdive to re-release crap, even stuff like Shadow Warrior that already has a functional fucking re-release on top of plenty of sourceports.
>>12064063I'm just glad that there is still interest in these old games even though I don't play them muchIsn't Shadow Warrior classic redux really buggy as well?
>>12064042>>12064039It's probably the same anon who thinks he's doing internet activism and only ever showed up in these threads to fight the invisible iron fist of the janitors or something like that.
>>12064008Double standards with Nightdive's fans are very amusing. Blaming corporations for business practices Nightdive endorses through collaboration and lament about Aspyr and Deus Ex while actively advocating for monopoly by hoping that any FPS remasters is done by one company.At the end, people will willingly default back to originals.>>12064030>The target audience of these remasters is zoomers who get fake nostalgia for games they've never played from the e-celebs they watchNot always the e-celebs. Inspiration sometimes comes from other places like childhood and such. That's how it mostly was for a retarded zoomer like me.>>12064037No, anon totally has a point.>>12064040How much in total it took them to get System Shock 2: 25th Anniversary Remaster? Approximately 6-7 years? Considering that SiN is a similar situation where Nightdive owns the IP and how things going right now, I would give it another 2-3 years from now.Reloaded was at first supposed to be out in 2021, meaning it probably had at least a year of development by the point of announcement in 2020. It probably started development around the same time as SS2, but who knows for sure.
>>12064068>Isn't Shadow Warrior classic redux really buggy as well?It got an update a few years back that fixed a bunch of the significant issues like underground mines.
>>12064074Tbf Aspyr is dropping the ball on this one.I don't love or hate nightdive though. They've had their share of fuck ups and successes.
>>12064027Did General Arcade do Chasm The Rift? I think they did a pretty good job with that one
How many remasters are even there left for Nightdive to do?>Quake III>Dark Forces II>actually trying to fix Blood II >Hexen II with the expansion>Terminator Future Shock and Skynet>Daikatana>Blake Stone>Alien Trilogy>Requiem Avenging Angel>Wheel of Time>Descent Series>Mechwarrior series>Tekwar or Witchaven for the memes>some console FPS like Disruptor, Medal of Honor or Alien ResurrectionMost of these are probably unlikely because of licensing
>>12064074It's funny System Shock 2 took them so long when System Shock Enhanced was one of their first projects
>>12064087They'll pad it out with awful ones like Neves of Steel and Isle of the Dead, and obviously they're already into remastering their own remasters.
>>12064091>when System Shock Enhanced was one of their first projectsAllegedly they cannibalized System Shock Portable to get that out so quickly, then DMCA'd SSP.
>>12064087I would unironically buy a South Park port.
>>12064030As someone who hasn't finished any retro shooters (except for Half-Life and Goldeneye) until a year ago it has been fun to catch up with all the classics. I'm also happy people are still playing these games and there has been also a resurgence of various retro style shooters. It sure beats the era when everyone was trying to rip off CoD.
>>12064087Hexen 2 would be actually nice since it has non-existant modding scene. I'd enjoy a new mission pack for it.Then they could do Duke Nukem 3d, just to get a new 6th episode. At least it couldn't be a worse port than World Tour. But since Gearbox still holds the rights and is gayer than Nightdive, I doubt it'll happen.
>>12064087They'll probably end up doing more full remakes like with System Shock. Depending on how this Blood situation goes, they might even try double-dipping on their earlier remasters and use console ports as an excuse.
>>12064113>Duke Nukem 3dMegaton Edition with the official expansions is all you need, it just isn't on sale anymore
>>12064085Well to be fair Chasm community (if it exists at all) is nowhere near as autistic about the authenticity, so maybe a lot of small bugs might just go unnoticed, meanwhile nothing goes unnoticed past the Doom/Build community.
>>12064118Megaton is overrated. Sure it's a better port than World Tour, but it certainly didn't have all expansions. Eduke is the best way to play Duke. I'd only want a new remaster to get a new expansion. More Duke is always good.
>>12064027>>12063898Say what you want about Nightdive, they never fucked up as hard as the guys who did Kingpin Reloaded
>>12064126What is the progress on Duke Nukem Forever restoration?
>>12064014>>12064039He was also samefagging the shit out of the thread. Just a small snippet. There's a lot more posts with this deletion timestamp.Also not that it matters or that I can prove it, but only the first post in this is mine. And one of only three posts I even made in that thread, actually.>>12064072Literally exactly the same guy. Seriously go take a look at the deleted posts in the archive. He's also the guy who said he was redoing his v9 and replied to his own post pretending to be multiple people working on it.https://desuarchive.org/vr/thread/12060373/#12061864https://desuarchive.org/vr/thread/12060373/#12061909
>>12064115Which older FPS would even be worthy of a remake? None of them were as janky as original system shock
>>12064087Redneck Rampage
>>12064127This.>>12064129No idea.
>>12064131Man that shit's fucking tiring, in less than a week it'll have been going on for an entire year.https://desuarchive.org/vr/thread/11281934/#q11287798
>>12064131Is there anyone actually working on a new infographic now or did he succeed in sabotaging the project?
>>12064030I think large part of their audience are also people who simply want to play classic shooters on consoles, compare the recent remasters to the awful PS1 ports of Hexen and Dark Forces
>>12064145hopefully this will be the end of it
>>12064098that's one i wouldn't mind getting the heretic treatment
>>12064081>Tbf Aspyr is dropping the ball on this one.For sure. I'm still happy Deus Ex in their hands not just because "fuck Nightdive", but also "yay, competition". As shitty as it is.>>12064085>Did General Arcade do Chasm The Rift?Yep. I need to play it. Big thing is no multiplayer, which sucks.>>12064087I won't be surprised if they skip straight to Heretic 2 simply because there's more profit for it. You don't need to "suffer loses" to Bethesda's generosity for Game Pass fodder when there's no barebone original version of the game up for sale already.>>12064091To be fair, it's also logical. If you own the IP, you have full control over time management. That's why its been so neglected for years.>>12064127>Kingpin ReloadedThat got fucked over by Interplay, 3D Realms with its awful attention span and Embracer bullshit. Although Interplay did get slow patching going recently for what its worth.Considering Kingpin Reloaded had five developers working on it in total, you can argue that end result is actually kind of impressive if you have desire to be charitable.https://youtu.be/YbYWvhLd2sI&t=14292
>>12064147If somebody would start working for it, he would be just mistaken for the mm guy. Just let the infograph rest in peace.
>>12064161>Yep. I need to play it. Big thing is no multiplayer, which sucks.The campaign is like 4 hours long so you can easily complete it in one evening
>>12064160It will never happen, so my money is forever safe.
>>12064041I did like the new levels in Doom 64, they were quite good.Can those be played in the other Doom 64 ports yet?>>12064147I was doing it for a while, in the extremely foolish hope that maybe he was legit and maybe it'd placate him, but I completely lost my patience with him before it even dawned on me that he was completely bullshitting and trolling, hence I said Fuck It.I am actually more in favor of the approach people discussed earlier, to just link to Clovr for the recs, and then maybe have just a starter "brochure" for how to get the base game running.
>>12064163We could just fucking omit MM8BDM, maybe substitute it with Highway Accelerator as someone suggested.But again, just not doing a Doom recc chart as an image anymore may just be the better approach.
>>12064164>The campaign is like 4 hours long so you can easily complete it in one eveningI'm a slow player, so it's probably gonna be at least double the time for me. Not to mention collecting achievements.
>>12064092>Isle Of The DeadThat would be such a fucking desperate and funny scrape of the bottom of the barrel that I would just kind of accept it.
>>12064181>I'm a slow playerSame, I always try to explore levels and find as many secrets as possible, I can rarely complete a gem in less than 2 sittings
>>12064172Works in Doom 64 EX Plus. Excellent port.
>The start of map 26 in Alien VendettaI'd understand better if it wasn't being surrounded from every possible angle and carving "safe space" where you can catch a breath is behind some wetwork
>>12064184>I always try to explore levels and find as many secrets as possibleIt's not even that. Often even if I'm trying to just playing it without putting much thought into secrets and such, I still end up taking longer than one would expect. That's how I'm with games in general, not just FPS.
>>12064087They can branch out and do more non-FPS games like shadow Man and The Thing
>>12064087Convince Bungie to let them remaster the Marathon trilogy and include famous mods. Then the Marathon community gets to collectively piss themselves because their mods are now "official" and "canon".
I got excited that I found a bug in Chocolate Doom but apparently it's been known for 8 years.There's a sector type 10 which closes 30 seconds after the map starts. It's used in a secret in map27. In vanilla, if you run to the secret and stand under the door as it closes at 30 seconds, it will reopen and keep going up and eventually the game will crash. But this doesn't happen consistently, because the behavior depends on unitialized memory.Chocolate Doom is supposed to reproduce all vanilla bugs but apparently reproducing a stochastic crash that could lead to security issues was too much for them.Honestly at this point DOS emulation is so good and comfy that I don't see much point in Chocolate Doom anymore
>enter Doom thread>get unrelated forum drama bullshitjust fuck right off you fucking cuntsno wonder this thread is going down the shitter if all you fags can do is bicker about irrelevant bullshitthis place has really gone downhill since 2016, but since the war started it has taken a proper nosedive
>>12064214Nigger, it's calm now after the bans. You are the only one how's being the drama queen now.
>>12064214What wads have you been playing lately, anon?
>>12064214Who are you quoting?
>>12064098>>12064160Kinda agree. The MP was a lot of fun. Would love to see the single player brought up to something better than a wave shooter.
>>12064214What are your top 5 Doom textures?
>>12064216DBP 76 + the universal rain mod, shit's comfy.
>>12064145Looking back even farther and oh my god, even way back in '16 there's complaining about it not being on v7?https://desuarchive.org/vr/search/text/MM8BDM/page/13//doom/ has been dealing with MMschizofuckery for nearly ten years?>>12064147I wouldn't say he succeeded in sabotaging it because he's not trying to. He very much wants MM on it despite repeated claims he doesn't care.>>12064176I was going to second Booster and HND in the last thread but was too late.
>>12064243>this is what some guy has devoted 10 years of his life tolol.
>>12064243I didn't even know the mod was that old
>>12064210Unitialized memory bugs are out of scope in choco (including stairbuilder bug). And there's no correct behaviour there, it will depend on which programs you ran before doom.I have also found a bug and idk if it needs fix. Check out this in chocolate vs dos. https://files.catbox.moe/81btwy.wad I kinda don't want it to be fixed because I wanna be able to abuse this effect in vanilla wads to create horizons, but I think it will be eventually.
>>12063884Unpacked No Rest For The Living. It's marked "NERVE.wad" on the file. I don't see it in this list, though.
>>12064250It's not an IWAD, you load it alongside Doom 2.
>>12064210>Honestly at this point DOS emulation is so good and comfy that I don't see much point in Chocolate Doom anymoreMy man. Call me retarded but I've never fucked with sourceports for DOOM, only Quake. All I need is muh DOSBox. I don't want to sift through a bunch of extraneous menu options and disable rwtarded shit just to get the vanilla experience I wamt anyway.
>>12064258Not even Zdoom and Gzdoom?
>>12064250Never used these graphical launches but type -file NERVE.wad in additional parameters i guessOh and this is highly recommended if you're going to play NERVEhttps://www.doomworld.com/vb/thread/119301
>>12064208Marathon community will rip them apart for asking money when Aleph One ports are published on Steam for free. That would be a fun show though.
>>12064243This feels like it's stirring up some old hazy memories. I wonder what happened to him in the meantime which made him like he is now? Fentanyl?
>>12064208>>12064268>Marathon>CommunityYeah, I'm sure that the ten or so guys who still make Marathon mods would be majorly affected by a Nightdive rerelease.
>>12063836>Duke It Out in /vr/Didn't the lead abandon the project? Is it still active?
>>12064243>/doom/ has been dealing with MMschizofuckery for nearly ten years?Autism is a hell of a drug.
>>12064280Oh right. Again, anyone who knows Build willing to shoulder the project? It's not too big of a one, but it could use someone else to manage it.>>12064281Maybe Megafaggot's drug of choice was Tylenol all along?
>>12064246>>12064248Could anyone use a laugh? I sure could.>He still begs for it.Alright, I'm done now.
>>12064258I agree in principle but many (most?) wads need at least a limit-removing port>>12064260Not him and I do use source ports, but never zdoom. It's just a different game to me and not one I'm really interested in
do we talk about cultic?
>>12064127kingpin doesn't need a remaster, it needs a successor. the game itself wasn't that fun but the vibes were amazing, and the friendly AI pathfinding was actually insane, like honestly unmatched to this day.
>>12064291Nah. Too new.
>>12064147I was trying it out myself, but I should be honest that a big part of it was to see if he was going to even use it: I was editing the v8 version, not his “v9”, and was going to add Augur Zenith, this, and some other /vr/ wads. I’m very fine leaving it as is and focusing on the other stuff.Also very enlightening seeing all the other posts that got deleted from the last thread.
>>12064291No, it's Unity and not Unity as a frontend for something retro like with the Doom port.
>>12064291You can try, but that will be gamble.
>>12064293It mainly needed a more balanced less tedious combat and more open level design, after first half of the game money was basically completely useless and you had no more shops to spend them onI think it definitely inspired other gritty urban games like GTA and Max Payne
>>12064296I would make a block for all of the DBPs, but give Auger Zenith a special mention.
>>12064304>tedious combatthe combat felt more like a transaction. every fight simply REQUIRED a set amount of health to be taken from you as well as ammo.
>>12064306I'd give DBP48 a special mention too, one that's a warning to not waste your time with it.
>>12064306>I would make a block for all of the DBPs, but give Auger Zenith a special mention.What makes it so magical, like seriously? Ghostbusters-styled bottled lightning?Even the “shittiest maps” haven’t gotten old for me, I’ve played it like four or five times now.
>>12064306Honestly, DBP being its own continuous series, for such a long time, it could just as well have its very own chart listing all of them in sequence.
>>12064319That's why I suggested just a single block for the whole thing, because they're consistent and usually worth playing.
>>12064280If you Build it, they will leave.
>>12064215Nuh-uh >:(
>>12064296>I’m very fine leaving it as is and focusing on the other stuff.I think in the long run Wadsup will prove to be more useful, but it'll take time to get beyond the obsession with infographics, especially with some people's need for it to validate their taste in mods.
>>12064319> it could just as well have its very own chart listing all of them in sequencethis? https://doomer.boards.net/page/dbp
>>12064394Good job, anon!
>>12064258Then you are pretty much limited to 90s wads. It's been while since I downloaded the latest woof or dsda, but if I remember you don't have to do much setupping. They are not like gzdoom where every option is set to be as far from vanilla as possible from default.
>>12063836lock HOTPOTATO76I'll try to make it playable on HMP
>>12064258You're missing out on shitloads of really good and Vanilla-like stuff, there's so much Limit Removing and Boom content out there which is amazingly good, and all with Vanilla or close to Vanilla gameplay.
>>12064283>>12064361Well I can put all the maps (if there is gonna be any) and other shit like tiles and midis into one big grp file, create the episode with par times on con file, and test maps (if there is gonna be any). Is anything else needed?
>>12064496>They are not like gzdoom where every option is set to be as far from vanilla as possible from default.Though even that has mods like Vanilla Essence to try and crowbar it back into something vaguely vanilla-like.
>>12064508Yea, but anon wanted it vanilla as default.
>>12064507That's pretty much all that is necessary.
>>12064521Good. I'll do it then, if maps start to appear. Easy thing to do.
Steam's Autumn sale is on.
>>12064563Finally, I can buy Doom.
recommend me a megawad RIGHT NOW
>>12064578TNT XIAO
>>12064580looks cool, thanks
>>12064578Sigil
>>12064591No problem. Just be aware that it's not a particularly difficult wad. It all breezed by for me.
>>12064497HOTPOTATO77.WAD: https://files.catbox.moe/bwpmea.zipNerf stuff for HMP. I wanted to send a demo too, but I died on the last staircase and then nerfed it a bit. Won't record a second time. I removed invuln in lake fight from HMP and instead added a soulsphere and removed one cyber. Invuln was too OP.
I read some where else that refreshed supply blood is literally just them selling n blood to people. Which is what I use any way. Im not sure the flaws left in fresh supply but it works for me. I personally use n blood mostly but it works for me and I got no reason to pay
>>12064578Strange Aeons - I've somehow played that one more than any other.
>>12064606That would explain why it's up for preorder, get the suckers to pay up before knowing that.
>>12064606Interesting that ND have the source code after Blood-RE was released.
>>12064615This is especially good with High Noon Drifter and the patch for it.
>>12064578Hellbound.
>>12064578Interception
Playing the Deathkings of the Dark Citadel expansion for Hexen and this shit feels like a slog. I'm in the last hub and it just keeps throwing waves of Serpents in small corridors and I'm getting bored.
>>12064593lmao
>>12064578Anon recommended me Biowar few threads ago. Playing it now. Been wanting to play vanilla stuff recently.
>>12064632Hey John Romero said it was a megawad, you wouldn't want to go disbelieving him now, would you?
>>12064126I really appreciate Megaton showing me Life's A Beach, love at first sight, but as a port it's just kind of passable (on console anyway).
>>12064131>>12064243Imagine traveling back in time to 2016, and telling us back then that he was going to carry a bitter personal vendetta over this, and was going to obsessively shitpost the threads for months on end out of sheer pure spite, and presumably strung out on drugs.Were people even used to that kind of insanity back then?
>>12064640>Sigil>megawadIT'S ONLY 9 MAPS LONG, YOU SICK FUCK!
>>12064129
>>12064657I would rather hear about the maps we make instead.
why is it called "doom"?
>>12064665Ideally, but we don't live in a perfect world.>>12064606It's supposed to be a new port made from scratch out of the actual source code, apparently. Still think it's kind of dirty to charge for that kind of re-release for people who actually bough Fresh Supply before.
What's the best map /vr/ ever made?
>>12064671I still think Black Crest is good as all fuck.
>>12064672Yeah I too had it in mind when asked this
>>12064669Because of a pool cue.
>>12064670>Still think it's kind of dirty to charge for that kind of re-release for people who actually bough Fresh Supply before.Especially when the tone from some of them has been along the lines of "if you care about Blood that much you'll buy it again".
>>12064578If you like challenge, Simulacrum is a good Ribbiks inspired wad. But mostly not nearly as dickish as Sunlust.
>>12064671Recreational Astrocide from Violent Rumble is definitely up there.
>no peanut to bless this thread
>>12064721He already worked wonders in the past thread, like showing a crucifix to a vampire, really.
>>12064671Devil's Garden from Ad Mortem (At least it's my favorite)Runner up could be the HFFM rising water map.Honorable mention for Temporal Tantrum's Temple of Karmack.A shame these guys don't seem to map anymore, including Chop
>>12064739Chop will make his triumphant return with 94 Protons.
>>12064746Here's hoping.
>>12064728That was pretty fucking hilarious how hard that anon got set off from a combination of having a little fun paired with people having a basic level of sympathy for basement anon.
>>12064739>Runner up could be the HFFM rising water map.Oh yeah, the Heart Attack one, that's legit one of my favorite Doom maps of all time.
>>12064721Just for you, friend. Have a good night.
>>12064764I will now.
>>12063838>>12063843>>12063854Are there any screenshots or an archive? I love a good meltie
>>12064779https://desuarchive.org/vr/thread/12060373/#12062860This is where it starts. Just scroll on down.>Captcha: NAXTY
>>12063981Damn the fuckers shoot so fast
>>12064779I've chronicled it into a screencap with highlight posts. Do we have any drawfag here who can draw a decent caricature of this absolute wasteman to cap it all off?
>>12064798Zombies are absolute terrors with fast monsters on, yeah, the shotgun baldies especially (well, they're not (visibly) bald in this case, but usually).Also the pinkies moving so goddamn fast.
>>12064087I could see Dark Forces 2, especially if they bundle it with MotS. OpenJKDF2 works pretty well, but I'm sure people would pay for convenience and/or a console port.>>12064098Same. Game was broken but the multiplayer was fun as fuck. Campaign just needs to be rebalanced so that you actually got ammo often enough.
>>12064801Don't dignify that bastard with art. We have screencaps and some of us have further knowledge of him. Anything more and you'd be actively rewarding him.Best to let the subject rest and move on.
>>12064806I never had Goldeneye back then, so South Park was my deathmatch FPS. Shame my cart died.
>>12064807Maybe you're right.
>>12063903>Well for me, it's not that black and white. They are not my friends, but they are not personally my arch enemies either.this. A-log behavior is cringe 90% of the time. what nightdive is doing with blood is bullshit but i'm not going to pretend the stuff i liked from them is magically shit now because of it.>>12063912for me the only value with the remasters is the new content. if all their offering with this remaster is mods i can get for free elsewhere then what's the point? hell, i already have deathwish.
>>12064721>>12064764peanut.wad when?
>>12064815Good idea. Someone needs to draw the mugshot
>>12064810I'd love to see more games have shit like that alien device, some of the weapons like that and the ray gun with the three firing types were pretty damn neat. It wasn't as solid as Goldeneye but it was in that pocket like TWINE how it was still pretty damn fun. I only ever really played the 64 version but I heard the PC and PS1 versions had their own problems as well.
>>12064087wolfenstein 3D would be my vote just so there can finally be a "complete/definitive" version of the game with all the official episodes including the wolfstone episodes from TNC & YB.>>12064202i'd like to see SOMEONE do a VTM:B remaster just so that a stable version of the game actually exists (no the unofficial community patches don't count now shut up).>>12064126>Megaton is overrated. Sure it's a better port than World Tour, but it certainly didn't have all expansions.i mean what else is there? penthouse paradise? zero hour? total meltdown? alien world order?
There's only one moo.But, heh... bud...I've got 30+ to unload that'll split you in two.
>>12064839guys how do you kill the cyberdemon? I can't figure it out please help me
>>12064835Wolfenstein 3D would be cool, especially if they package it with options for the Second Encounter and Third Encounter, and then adding the flamer, rocket launcher, armor, and backpack, for when playing those.Maybe even an option for the Mac HD graphics, but finally completed?I'd pay like... $15 for that.
>>12064842Shoot at it until it stops mooing.
>>12064839Hey buddy, looks like you could use a little... assistance.
>>12064835Wolf3D with the Mac graphics would be cool.
>>12064858Oh my god Pacman look out!
>>12064850>more rocketIt's over for bovine-adjacents.
>>12064739>Devil's Garden from Ad MortemGood one, thanks!
>>12064905Man, Ad Mortem has gorgeous fucking interfaces. The fonts, title screen, menu graphics, M_DOOM, intermission screen, it's all pretty as hell.
>>12064705This had a nice wh40k vibe.
>>12064835>what else is there?Those what you listed, but also Duke!Extreme and Duke!Zone 2. Everything works on eduke.
Sup niggas, I been off grid for few weeks playing Silksong. Whats the status on Duke it out in /vr/? Is it still alive, anyone working on maps? Should I continue or I'll be the only contributor (if I don't fuck up till deadline that is)
>>12064931The project leader quit.
>>12064931Previous lead finally did bail, apparently, but someone else said they're taking up the mantle.
>>12064931>Should I continue or I'll be the only contributor (if I don't fuck up till deadline that is)Got beaten to it by the other anons but yeah >>12039372 Duke it Out anon got fed up again, sadly.Were you the Weather Report anon by chance?
>>12064937>Were you the Weather Report anon by chanceYep, working on that Sneed map. Checking in to see if there is still any anon trying to make something
>>12064616>>12064617>>12064670Im not sure about the nblood thing its kind of a rumor I read. It might be true might not be. Wouldn't be surprised though if it is. What's blood re??? Also why would any of us in this doom thread even buy it?? I mean i guess it comes with a new expansion but I can go on mod db and download 20 new ones right now. Also if I wanted to play blood. I could just download the grp and the files from the OP Links any ways bros . I remember searching for a a whole day or two a year or two ago for duke it out in DC and and duke life's a beach and they were in the op lmao. Idk I kept.downloading the discs but couldn't figure out how to get the gro off the iso file cause it wasn't in there guess you had to actually run the exe to get it. Then found it there any way I guess its cool they made death wish cannon but its not like they even made that. That was just a one man army who put out some amazing shit
>>12064606It's still their kek engine, fake and soulless. I remember reading somewhere that kaiser hates build
>>12064986>It's still their kek engineThey're claiming that it's a rebuild.>I remember reading somewhere that kaiser hates buildI wouldn't fault him for it, the original devs of Blood found asking Ken Silverman for technical support to be tremendously frustrating. I remember someone describing the way Build is put together as making more sense for the computer than it does for a person.
>>12064839
>>12064994>They're claiming that it's a rebuild.Rebuild from original source code, allegedly. The one that was lost then found then leaked somewhere. Very fishy and jewish. This rerelease is weird, there's no reason for it to be a new purchase over a free update but they claim it's some legal bullshit. At least Bloatoid, the Death Wish guy, got some more recognition and as nightdive say some cash for it too, the guy deserved it for making the better Blood than Blood itself is
>>12065046I personally look at death wish as 3 more episodes after cryptic passage desu. Very well made
How's the Killing Time remaster? Is it good?>>12064087Descent would be the most interesting and I'd love to play the classic Medal of Honour games again without having to dick around with emulators.
>>12065053I played Frontline some what recently. Was alot of fun actually. Gamecube version personaly.
>>12065061Frontline was the very first MoH game I played and also the very first FPS I've played.Since then, it's only been downhill...
>>12064947I'd hope the Duke It Out anon maybe comes back. I suspected he was getting extra dumped on by the spammer.Looking forward to whatever you put out, Weather Report was fucking nice.>>12065053>How's the Killing Time remaster? Is it good?I liked it.
>>12064931I'm thinking about making one. There's still 3 months if we go by the original deadline.
Feels like Hot Potato has been good for the thread's health and morale.
>>12065067It was still fun. It took me like 20-30 mins to remember what to do on the first d day mission lmao. Died a few times too. I remember having the first medal of honor game and front line I remember front line way more from that iconic intro. Just the game too. Its kinda funny I remember back in the day preferring the medal of honor controls when call of duty came out. Great games
>>12065075Hope you do anon, good luck. The project must survive
>>12065087Agreed.
>>12065093The intro is memorable but I also remember the U-boat mission because from memory you get smuggled in on a crate and burst out of it shooting and there's a mission undercover you go around showing your papers and at the end you jump off the second floor or something and into a haystack and there's a cool cinematic for it.
>>12064820nothing like watching your friend get swallowed up a cow's asshole
>>12063936>Hacx 2.0Clearly he's saving that for Nightdive.
>>12064974>What's blood re???https://www.blood-wiki.org/index.php?title=Blood-RE>>12065046It's a paid update, the source code rebuild is no excuse to ask existing owners to shill out
>>12064858>wanna freebase?
>>12063981>>1206479817:04 https://files.catbox.moe/1jtpgz.lmpStressful as heck
>>12064598lock
>>12065087>>12065108I think a big part of it is that, by nature, anyone can contribute regardless of skillIf you're not good at making exciting encounters or something you can still contribute by detailing the map (or contributing in technical ways like providing new textures, doing deh stuff, etc)
>>12064598>>12065316HOTPOTATO78.WAD: https://files.catbox.moe/4d523h.zipAdd super-super secret. I thought lake fight missed some rockets so I put them here.
>>12064670>port made from scratch out of the actual source codedisingenuous marketing lies
>>12065402https://youtu.be/KfxqZagHXbM
>>12064670>>12064986>I remember reading somewhere that kaiser hates buildlol lmao
>>12065495>refreshed supply might still have harmless crushers
>>12064913I wonder if we'll finally get that update this October. Probably not, but I can dream.
>>12065495>Plus the death wish and marrow authors asked I keep itDoes Build's collision suck that badly?
>>12065495>i should of researchedand people will still think kaiser is a smart guy
>>12064623That map pack has so many death exits it ain't even funny
I don't know why, but tanks are my favourite Strogg.
>>12065527tanks are awesome, honestly. i love that their original face is just a human one tacked onto a mechanical head. i also really like the enforcers.
>>12065516Maybe he's smart. Just arrogant. That seems to be a theme with Nightdive devs.
>>12065495The company claiming to do game preservation, lol.
To any anon involved, has Ad Mortem had any major developments this year? I was thinking of doing a marathon come Halloween, would be nice to know if I should wait it out and play even more kino.
>>12065375lock for a bit
>>12065579Who knows, man. Vaeros refuses to call it complete, but there hasn't been any development on it since last year.
>>12065513Yes, but I'd unironically call it a feature. Exploiting Build collision is super fun, even if you'd just die if you don't know what you are doing.
>>12064087PS1 DOOM
>>12065597https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DKAFWfXy5vU
>>12064986>>12065046>>12065495Also a female vtuber appearantly saying they like Hexen 1/2 makes NightDive devs coom their pants. Makes me laugh that Andrea Rovenski (higher quality female tuber than Medea) never gets any praise meanwhile doing actual useful videos.https://warosu.org/vr/thread/11995002#p12004889
>>12065616Andrea's actually ok, yeah, speedruns and has put out some pretty fucking solid maps over the years.
>>12065616Much as I dislike vtubers for blatantly catering to and feeding into parasocial bullshit, I must admit the way they did it is tasteful.Still cringe as fuck, though.
>>12065586HOTPOTATO79.WAD: https://files.catbox.moe/fqdg7y.zipAdd goofy music to super secret room (hope MP3s are ok) and make the textures spin.Make an awful CWILV00 to signal that it should be replaced.
>>12065616Andrea Rovenski is as female as the janny
And that's Alien Vendetta done.
>>12065635>(hope MP3s are okThey're not for most ports.
>>12065639Yeah but is there a single port that supports MBF21 but doesn't support MP3?
if it's a problem should I refrain from all pcm music or it's better to convert it to e.g. OGG
>>12065641I think more ports support MP3 than OGG, could be wrong though
>>12065637Hot.
ku-ku-kuchitsu!!!
>>12065640I was mistaken, I thought the Woof lineage didn't support it, only .ogg.
>>12065635I didn't notice during the fight itself, but can you just leave the lake fight now?
>>12065680You mean the super-secret room? You need to get back into the pipe using AVJ.Normally you leave the fight with the elevator after the bars lower.
>>12065682but yeah that counts as "just leave", it's just a bit tricky
>>12065680Oh I didn't notice this step. You're right that should be fixed.
>>12065635lock
>>12065687I like that step being there to get to the secret, but there could be something done for the player trying to exit mid-fight. If >>12065690 doesn't fix it, I can.
>>12065532Enforcers just remind me of Barret from FF7 every time I see them. The wind up for their chaingun looks like one of his limit break attacks.
Duke Nukem Zero Hour support in Rednukem when?
>>12065527>>12065532>tanky as Doom's barons but with three different attacks: hitscan, projectile, explosive projectile with leading attacksI really like when they can choose to 'cancel' into their rocket barrage, keeps you on your toes.>>12065727They have a similar silhouette to Barrett as well, though in later expansions the chaingun is always 'loaded' so they'll shoot first and reload second.
>>12065338Wait a minute, that's Eternal IV
>>12065664>t. the walrus
>>12065738Tanks definitely feel like a successor to the Hell Nobles for me beyond just a door with health. They even have a stronger variant that is exactly the same but with more health.
>>12065495Wait so it's not even out and already confirmed broken shit despite them saying they're doing Refreshed because Fresh is broken? How the fuck are they fixing Fresh mistakes if they straight up knowingly reusing broken Fresh code?
What's /vr/'s favourite Idtech after Idtech 1?
>>12065796Idtech 2, because I like Quake 2. Kingpin and SiN too. I'd really want to like Daikatana too, but John Romero made me his bitch with that game.
Spooky season is almost here. What are some good maps to use with Red Spiral 93?
>>12065690>>12065635HOTPOTATO80.WAD: https://files.catbox.moe/bxicn6.zipAdd UMAPINFOFix minor texture misalignmentAdd melee attack with sound to nightmare imps (i'm not sure about damage)
>>12065738>>12065775After the Quake remasters, I really wish someone would make modernized Quake Stuff mods for Doom using all the stuff from them.
>>12065808Lock
>>12065775I always assumed they were the Quake 2 Cyberdemon or Shambler, but comparing them to Hell Nobles makes a lot more sense.
>>12065814I'd say they're still close to the Shambler (or maybe the Vore). Quake 1 never really had a Cyberdemon equivalent except for the expansion bosses.
>>12065814Q2's 4 bosses (or 8 if you count the expansions) were the cyberdemon/spiderdemon replacements.
>>12065785First screenshot is from Duke4 forums in 2019 where someone copied the reply from Kaiser.https://forums.duke4.net/topic/10574-blood-fresh-supply/page__st__180__p__327196#entry327196I was just refreshing memory on Fresh Supply and found it very funny how:>Kaiser in 2019: if I am ever given the chance to revisit FS. I am going to add an option to switch between collision modes>Kaiser in 2025: still using the collision code from FS. It's better anyways...Kaiser said he was gonna add option for both in the past if given a chance, but in reality he didn't.
>>120658219 if you count the PSX version. Did they ever say why the remaster left that version out, despite remaking the N64 campaign, including a single Arachnid in CotM, and including its assets in the vault? Legal issues with Hammerhead or Sony?
>>1206403040 year old faggot here.I actually enjoyed a couple of the remasters, notably Quake 2 for the enemy improvements, fast weapon swap and an easy way to play the expansions.Naturally it has a bunch of problems, like that awful lighting system, a nerfed railgun, machinegames somehow getting political over Quake 2 of all things (we all know it's not a coincidence there are no Iron Maidens in CotM) and the usual lame green cross health, but generally it's not bad.
>>12063834today i learned quakecon started as a fan idea
>>12065808>>12065812HOTPOTATO81.WAD: https://files.catbox.moe/5d9cvs.zipPrevent the player from leaving the lake fight.Fix the ceiling raising too much for the exit lift in the underground water room.Change the texture of the red skull key pillars as they lower.
>>12065835Nah, leaving should be possible with AVJ. There's a mega closet that opens there to hint that. Also lake fight is not that difficult that anyone would try to leave it
>>12065842I found another way to jump across on the other side, and I preferred that for getting to the secret after the fight instead of having it be missable.
>>12065828Not enough time. Paril completed it on his free time, but they couldn't add it officially on patch because console policy with dll files.
>>12065847oh ok
>>12065354wad?
>>12065607I would unironically want a modern PlayStation Doom port. I know Psydoom's a thing, but an official modern release would be nice.
>>12065856Damn. This is a pipe dream, but I hope they decide to just say "fuck it" and officially include it in an update since it's all ready and done. Still, I'm kind of jealous they gave more love to Quake 2 anyway instead of Quake 1's remaster.>Quake 1: HD models for the original game's weapons and enemies, actually packing the OST with the game unlike the original Steam release, and restoring Dismal Oubliette's length, but they didn't do the same for the weapons and enemies in the expansions; Dimension of the Machine also only uses the base weapon/enemy rosters, Dimension of the Past was also included as Machine Games jacking themselves off, and Quake 64 is relegated to an addon.>Quake 2: Same as with Quake 1 but with:>Remastered lighting.>Weapon rebalances (however unwanted they are).>New enemy behavior.>Giving this treatment to the expansions' content, including restoring the Disruptor from Ground Zero.>Even remaking the N64 campaign in the base game.>And having Call of the Machine include content from both expansions, both console ports, and Quake 1's Shamblers.
>>12065565Nothing says "we do this for preservation" more than Nightdive leaving "Stop asking us about Rage Wars" in the credits of their Turok 3 remaster.>>12065856At this point, I feel like most devs at Nightdive just don't like PSX version of Quake 2 and just don't add it out of spite. They added fucking Sigil 2 into a proper list of campaigns for DOOM + DOOM 2, so it's not like they're not capable.
>>12065882At least they put Q64 campaign. Both are better than the PC campaign.
>>12065882Nightdive might be egoistical bastards, but this is not on Nightdive (hell the campaign was finished by Nightdive member on his free time). And not even on Bethesda. It's the console policy combined with how Q2 engine is. Technically the blame is also on Carmack by making the engine dependant of dll files. Doom 1+2 has different engine than Q2 so it's not really comparable. Sigil 2 deserves it's official expansion status though. For me it's the episode 6.
>>12065891It's nice to play them both on pc, but I disagree with them being better than pc campaign.
>>12065809Could be fair to compare shamblers to barons of hell as well, they can die as quickly though they do have that seemingly arbitrary explosive resistance.>>12065832>I actually enjoyed a couple of the remasters, notably Quake 2 for the enemy improvements, fast weapon swap and an easy way to play the expansions.They're definite improvements over vanilla. I consider them more 'sidegrades' compared to how the expansions improved enemies. Switchspeed is different: I had my fill with mods and the remaster and can enjoy going back to the standard switchspeed now.>>12065909>It's nice to play them both on pc, but I disagree with them being better than pc campaign.I'll second that.
>>12065891I did like Quake 2 64 a lot too.>>12065907Nah, it's all just a bullshit excuse on Nightdive's part for not wanting to do more work (that they've already done to get Quake 2 re-release on PS and Switch in the first place; because all that DLL shit isn't exclusive to this one thing) for free + probably hate for that port in particular. Props to Paril to finishing it regardless, too bad his colleagues didn't share his enthusiasm.There's no good reason to not have PSX version of DOOM or Hexen 64 in respective re-releases either.
>>12063840I get why people are pissed but Blood on Switch would be pretty tits
>>12065909>>12065920>>12065979N64 campaign plays like Doom, small focused levels, cramped, atmospheric, simple and straight to the point.PS1 Q2 plays like PC Q2 with the most boring padded parts removed.
>>12065273Good run! I feel like Osiris may be pretty well suited to Fast Monsters given that it's not made too tough to begin with, so it ends up a just tight enough challenge this way.I probably won't do more Osiris challenges (for now), given that we're heading to October really soon and people wanted to do Halloween stuff, but I feel like I actually want to just play through Osiris myself, I forgot how fun and moody it was. It does a lot with relatively little, and Jeremy Doyle's music does so much for the atmosphere.I wonder, did Osiris actually inspire Powerslave? It's a continuation of I, ANUBIS, which was from 1995. Maybe Glen and Marshal saw Powerslave in magazines and got some inspirations from that to build more upon I, ANUBIS to make Osiris?
>>12065987>N64 campaign plays like DoomBig disagree from me bb, it plays more like Q1 which does not play like either Doom (except for some parts in Elder World).
>>12065987>>12066004>N64 campaign plays like Doom>it plays more like Q1It is closed to first Quake, yup. Smaller levels is a big part of why I enjoyed it.
Good doom wad for rainy days?
>>12064145>>12064131why the fuck was the inclusion/omission of megaman DM such a shitfit in the first place?>>12064163>>12064176>>12064243i'd just omit all the recommended mods on the infographic altogether and just make that a separate infographic that "we" as a community vote on.what's important is getting the information updated. no favoritisms or editorializations.
>>12066056Clovr could do essentially that, just a listing on a secure site with recommendations.
>>12066062I'm messing around with trying to get a more infographic style listing on Wadsup, image, title, description. Just for kicks.Looks like I'll have to modify a plug-in to do it though. Right now the table format is just a straight list style.https://clovr.xyz/wadsup/doku.php?id=tileviewOnly two for testing ATM. Rekkr has an explicitly defined image, scrap just uses the first image in the page (probably fine)Would be easy to add and remove things from. Update. Screenshot... I dunno we'll see. Seemed like a fun idea late last night tho. No promises.
>>12066056>why the fuck was the inclusion/omission of megaman DM such a shitfit in the first place?The very original one was because some obsessive anon yeeted two other mods out to replace with the most masturbatory writeup ever. Change tends to piss people off anyway but doing it like that caused a lot of shit.Of course a year on from that and the stupid shitfight has next to nothing to do with it, instead being personal power struggles and even bringing in some anons with no retro FPS interests, who only show up to the thread because they think they're fighting for a cause.
>>12066095It's just one schizophrenic guy and he's been doing it since 2016. Let's stop talking about it and move on.
>>12066080Looks pretty decent already, with a little fiddling I could see that being useful for people to find what mods they might fancy.
>>12066080Not bad. Also nice to see Scrap there, that's an underrated .wad
>go on the Doom subreddit>one subreddit for the whole franchise>all the discussion is about nugames (that they just call "Doom")>the only posts about what they call "Classic Doom" is about running it on lawnmowers and roblox and about how shitty it wasI'm not sure what I expected
>>12066120>redditYou were expecting anything to begin with?
>>12066120I accidently game across a classic Doom mod one once while trying to hunt down a few mods, shit was pretty much solid threads on Complex Doom Clusterfuckity fuck fuck Turbo Championship Edition.
Does anyone knowledgeable about Aleph One know what type of checksum it uses? It doesn't seem to be a straight CRC32: The decimal form of Excalibur: Morgana's Revenge's map checksum doesn't match the checksum used in the LUA patch, and converting the LUA checksum brings back a different hex sequence.
>>12066120Based on the time I've taken a look at it myself before, it's pretty much the desolate wasteland of the Classic Doom community. There's a bit of memeing about running the game on various things, but very sparse discussion of playing the game itself.I think maybe there are some other Doom subreddits, smaller ones, which are more about the classic games and their modding, but the overall Classic Doom fandom already had its well established nests before Reddit ever took off the ground, and people never felt a need to emigrate from them, thus r/Doom is only where people who are nothing bu Redditors go, thus the state of it.There's legit way more discussion about Classic Doom on Discord, be that some larger servers, servers dedicated to certain mods, or smaller and private servers.
>>12066168>zangief with a shotgunWhat would Doomguy's super be? Pulling out the BFG for a high damage combo ender?
>>12066173Double Lariat with two SSGs.
https://www.moddb.com/games/chasm-the-rift/addons/scamp2025>SCAMP 2025 brings you 12 brand new maps by 5 different mappers for Chasm: The Rift. Created by The Shadow Zone community, SCAMP includes additional textures, models, monsters, music and sounds in what is the first ever (probably) publicly released community mod for this game!>REQUIRES THE 2022 REMASTER OF THE GAME - IT IS NOT COMPATIBLE WITH DOS
>>12066212What the fuck? I gotta play this now
what are some modern boomer shooters that feature respawning enemies on high difficulty, like nightmare doom? the only one i know is ion fury
>>12066113i just picked two for testing that i couldn't possibly fuck up the page names on.
>>12066241Painkiller's endless rereleases.
>>12065809Well, it's in baby steps currently. There's also the weird trend of some modders implementing enemies and guns of bethesda's nu-doom to GZDoom. Maybe they can do stuff if there was enough voice, who knows.>>12066212It is pretty obvious that Nightdive is trying to take place of old Id/Raven for modern/new audiances zoomers who are brainwashed with fake nostalgia by tubers. Most of Quake 2 modding/mapping is on their kux engine too. Which tempts me to learn coding just so there's another choice to run the newer maps.
>>12063804>Btw I saw some anon in the archives said they had fixed Zen Dynamics to run on modern GZ Doom and was gonna message Xaser about it - did anything ever come of that. Yeah, that was me, and I completely forgot about it, sorry.Feel free to nab the xdelta3 patch, tho: https://marisa.pw/tmp/zendyn_x_m.vcdiff
>>12066336What the fuck is a .vcdiff file?
>>12066309>Which tempts me to learn coding just so there's another choice to run the newer maps.I wish Q2pro supported custom maps as smoothly as it does the new official content.
>>12066342just use https://www.romhacking.net/utilities/598/ or whatever idk
>>12066352I definitely feel that it's plausible that it's actually you given the needlessly fucking nerdy and obtuse solution which nobody would normally do for patching .wad files.That said, my doubts remain and don't trust it, and I wonder why the fuck you would come around here with a tripcode and all, you weren't exactly well liked here even before people knew what you did.
Doom 3: Phobos is now on Steam.https://store.steampowered.com/app/3978420/Doom_3_Phobos/
>>12066309The Chasm remaster isn't a Nightdive product, calm down.
>>12066370>given the needlessly fucking nerdy and obtuse solution which nobody would normally do for patching .wad files.It's not like that horrible fuckup can get shit added to the port anymore.>why the fuck you would come around here with a tripcode and all, you weren't exactly well liked here even before people knew what you did.I don't know bout legitimacy here but elsewhere it's been that fucker showing up and doing the old "I forgave myself and moved on, you should too" bullshit.
>>12065738>I really like when they can choose to 'cancel' into their rocket barrage, keeps you on your toes.i agree with that. and i also like how the "sweet spot" mechanic applies to them. shoot them in the ass still does double damage, so they arent unbalanced. theyre challenging without being bullshit. i also like the gun bash they do when you die to one. they kneel and punch your corpse with their machine gun arm.>>12065774walrus walrus, swimming in the ocean, causing a commotion
I'm trying to remember a slaughter map, can you guys help me? It starts on top of a tiered large island with an absolute enormous amount of enemies the more you go down it.
>>12063836>>12066375
testing an old trip
alright i can confirm they really did change the trip algorithmyou're still a terrible person though
>>12066212This should be on news seeing this released less than 2 weeks ago >>12063836Cool shit. Gonna play this. I never knew people were even mapping for Chasm.
>>12066080https://clovr.xyz/wadsup/doku.php?id=tileviewbit more infographic style. It just clips off large descriptions though.I'll keep playing with it. Maybe add all the stuff on the most recent so-you-wanna-doom-like-a-motherfucker infographics.still in "we'll see" mode
>>12066309Q2's mapping scene was basically dead save for few people like Quakeulf, before the remaster generated so much more interest that Map-Center became a thing. Vanilla Quake 2 has had less than 30 map sets released between 2000 and 2025. That's less than the amount of Doom wads that have got released during one of Doom's least active "dying" years like 1999 or 2000. Remaster itself has received already more than 15 good map packs after it's 2023 release. Comparing those numbers makes me see Nightdive with Q2 more as good than bad thing. It's less about stealing the modder base, and more about making the game more attractive modders since almost nobody was interested modding the vanilla (were you?). Now since CotV gave whole Q1 beastiary and 30 other creatures for modders, I see zero reason to go back to vanilla modding.
>>12063834>SO YOU WANT TO PLAY SOME FUCKING DOOMI wanna play Duke Nukem 3D actually.What's the best way to play it these days?
hi
>>12066443Eduke
>>12066443Megaton Edition
>>12066454>no support for all expansions>no mods>just a worse version of eduke but commercial (at least used to be)Why would you recommend this?
>>12066465He's a funny troll man.How is Raze for Duke? Better or worse than E-Duke? On par? Mod support? I really don't know diddley about it.
FIST FIGHTS ON THE HEIGHTS
>>12066469>How is Raze for Duke? Better or worse than E-Duke? On par? Mod support? I really don't know diddley about it.It's pretty decent like GDX. It might be worthwhile if you have something against managing separate sourceports for each Build game, but I found enjoying Raze and VoidSW the most for Shadow Warrior. Haven't tried it much with Duke, Blood, or Redneck Rampage.
>>12066469I like eduke for these reasons>it feels more vanilla while raze feels like gzdoom>raze should support all expansions by now, but you still need eduke if you want to play the console conversions>there is addon pack for eduke which includes over 90% of map sets ever made for Duke 3D, now fixed for latest eduke and maintained, none of these work with raze
>>12066452descent is cool>>12066469very meh for duke nukem. the best you can get for blood.
>>12066443Not him. Where can I get D3D, Blood, SW, RR patched to their latest versions, with all expansions, Red Book music - each in a single working package, so I could play them on either dosbox or source ports?
>>12066513>the best you can get for blood.It basically uses a modified version of NBlood doesn't it? You could just use that or NotBlood, it's like super NBlood and even has demo compatibility with DOS.
>>12065825iF I can guess, there are parts in Death Wish that when it was tested during QA, it was so fucking unhinged that they went with the FS changes so it isn't stupidly hard for console players aka Nintendo and PS5 players.Even most of the bitching towards the Berserkers when it came out was related to those in the spoiler.
>>12066405How did it turn out?
>>12063834>OUR WADS/MODS>https://rentry.org/vrdepotDoes it lead any of you to a slop game ad site when you click anything in the /vr/ rentry page or is it just me?
>>12066347I say, blame and do not blame Paril for that, he stopped working on the fork possibly due to fucking stephen and sponge and loss of interest.Also there it was a wip source port for yamagi, but i dont know how that went.
>>12066570which links are doing this to you?
>>12066570It leads somewhere, yeah. Maybe they went out of funds.>>12066574When you click literally anywhere, even empty background.
>>12066570>>12066593Odd, that's not happening to me, and I have Ublock origin and all that shit active too.
>>12066593>>12066596I can see it in the source for the page but I'm not getting it from clicking anywhere on the site, seems like Ublock or something is more actively kicking it in the trousers on my end.
>>12066574>>12066593>FAQ/GENERAL GUIDE>https://rentry.org/vrbin>OUR WADS/MODS>https://rentry.org/vrdepotOccurs on both of these, still happens even using the .co domain instead of .org domain. Doesn't happen in any other rentry paste for some odd reason.
>>12066453Is it supposed to look like this? Polymost and Classic display modes look even worse.
>>12065981Obviously i'm in the minority given switch sales, but why? Any handheld is not going to give the controls a desktop/kbm would, and even if someone was okay with a simpler control set, why a locked down switch instead of hardware you actually control?The only draw I can understand is if you want to play nintendo exclusive games and don't like emulation? As for the root of the discussion, it's probably a net benefit that nightdive is remastering these games, but I personally will choose more appropriate and 'free' source ports over another closed "mimic" engine.
>>12066593I see uBlock listing that domain.>>12066636That's definitely not right.
How do I make voxel models for doom?
>>12066654Fucking slowly.You could take a model you made and convert it. I'm sure there are tools for that.Ask cheelio, he's the go-to guy right now.
>>12066420Have you ultimately decided to mirror the SYWPSD pic? I expected it to show all the site-hosted content first and foremost. Looks cool nonetheless.
>>12066469Personal anecdote but for years I've had weird framerate issues with eDuke that Raze didn't have, and only with very recent versions did it get fixed. If you have problems with one it's good to try the other.
>>12066636Go back to polymost and check if it fixes itself after you reload the game. I'm not sure what the fuck you did but I know enough to know that Polymer is the worst renderer option
>>12066654Heard a lot of good things about art2vox. Some ancient program revived by some autosmo who even made manuals for it, check it outhttps://www.moddb.com/downloads/art2vox-for-doom
>>12066506>there is addon pack for eduke which includes over 90% of map sets ever made for Duke 3D, now fixed for latest eduke and maintained, none of these work with razeLink please.
>>12066681>>12066648I just got the rom from the OP and downloaded the latest Eduke32 version. Windowed mode OpenGL. That's it.
>>12065907>Technically the blame is also on Carmack by making the engine dependant of dll files.Carmack rightfully realized that using native DLLs for Q2 was a mistake. That's why Q3 uses QVMs. And if Nightdive weren't lazy bastards they should have done the same. They were breaking mod compatibility already, so why not take one extra step and put game code in VM? Plain C is piss easy to virtualize. No, they chose to rewrite it in C++ for some bullshit reason instead, which means Q2 is stuck with unsafe non-portable DLLs forever (with C++ bloat now!).
>>12066719why the fuck is Eduke even using OpenGL over vulkan
>>12066721Who probably gave the calls on what the source port would have, wasnt nightdiveIT WAS FUCKING SPONGE AND ADAM PYLE
>>12066726Admittedly OpenGL is far more compatible with different devices since it's old, but it's not giving me any option besides that and software and both look equally shit.
>>12066719>>12066654>>12066636speaking on source ports. i downloaded raze some what recently for the first time a long time and some how it is worse now than back in the day. like everything about it was slower. it took like 5 mins to get into game play some how. then i fired up the version i had on my desk top from like 2 years ago and it worked instantly, how did they fuck this up???
>>12066726There's nothing wrong with opengl for eduke. The reason Vulkan/DX12 came along was primarily for high performance multithreaded control - opengl ties a render context to a specific CPU thread, and you have to rely on more driver code for data transfers, synchronisation, etc. None of that matters here.
>>12066735Raze is based on GZDoom's codebase. Are you surprised?
>>12066739Wasn't it even started while Le No Chicken was in self-imposed exile because Lilith got a Cacoward?
are you telling me they still havent figured these fuckin games out and recompiled them natively? why are we stuck with eduke and gzdoom?
>>12066738Id still use Vulkan with all of those compatibility flags GL has set, but also add a better shader package support.So tisms get their 1996 Packard Bell CRT Shadowmask Monitor Preset or the one from Dgvoodoo2 and DOSBox Staging
>>12066716http://www.duke4.org/files/nightfright/eac/eac_downloader.zipunzip into your EDuke32 root dir and execute eac_install.bat
>>12066636>>12066719Sometimes this sort of artifacting is a hardware fault, or a video card driver bug, or an incompatibility between the game settings and some driver settings.
>>12066719Try full screen and software mode.
>>12066671I dunno really. Just playing around. If it showed site hosted stuff for some major tags, like the sywpsd pics titles (mp, gameplay mod, megawad) then you'd end up with some repeats. Might be fine though, I dunno.
>>12066746Why did he get his panties in a twist over Lilith getting a Cacoward?
>>12066654Ok I found a program called GoxelHere's my first attempt at modelling, doesn't look like a potato...
I haven't played either Eviternities because they look fucking gay
>>12066761No change, still fucked up.>>12066760So this thing isn't a real wrapper?
>>12066772Lilith is a mod that uses glitches and bugs as a means for unique gameplay and visuals. Graf is a full blown autist, who thinks all glitches and bugs must be fixed, even the small ones even if that breaks compability with absolutely everything, so he took lilith as a personal attack.
>>12066782Try linux mb
>>12066778How can you look into mirror then? That sight is much gayer.
>>12066772Ego mostly, and being wound up by Rachel so he could be used as an excuse to come down harder on it for having a vital feature of refusing to run on GzDoom.
>>12066803Rachel has been a horrible influence on GzDoom.
>>12066805Was ultimately responsible for the death of Skulltag too.
I'm doing my third or fourth playthrough of They Hunger and I only just noticed that this gun is not meant to be some scuffed white Glock but is in-fact meant to be a fucking Beretta or something, but all they did was slap a texture of one on to the glock model.
>Lilith, Rachel, girls' names mentionedIt's funny knowing with 100% certainty that these are all trannies and not women even if you don't know shit about Doom drama.
>>12066812Lilith is a wad (or technically a pk3), you tourist nigger.
>>12066812>Lilith>even if you don't know shit about Doom dramaAt least you're admitting you don't know shit and are looking for any excuse to go a bit /pol/.
>>12066735Raze went and replaced all of the build fixed-point math like 2 years ago, and now everything feels slightly off since then.There was even one point where explosions would cause players to jump into the air (since fixed).
>>12065835lock
>>12066827HOTPOTATO82.WAD: https://files.catbox.moe/d9x85s.zipAdd voxel taters
That recent Alizarin mapset would be nice to try out, if it wasn't for the eye-searing colour pallet. One map sure, but for a 36 map megawad? Yeesh.
>>12066857>smoking sockets for eyesI love Art.
>>12066857>doom if he virtual boy
>>12066857Kino
>>12063981>Record a UV-fast run>fast monsters is optionalI think you're confusing some terms here. "UV-fast" is all kills and secrets with -fast enabled, "UV-speed" is clearing the level as fast as possible (other games usually call it any%). Kinda poor naming scheme, but that's hot it goes. Also, I think it'd be best as a rule from now to avoid picking the same wad twice. Also UV-max in 8:51 https://files.catbox.moe/khcbmo.lmp
>>12066803I recall Rachael being the one good cop in all the staff shitting on Lilith and its author, though I can't find again the parts of the thread that got deleted to make the mods look good anymore so my memory might be inaccurate.
in overseas internet slang, this is called a truthnuke, or a truth nuclear bomb
>>12066903try running Falcon 3 without one
>>12066857>>12066890the Madness mod's palette removing all the brown makes wood-and-blood hell levels pretty cool
>>12066894Rachael's consistent MO was to try to look like the good cop while Graf got riled up enough to excuse shutting discussion down, but was also being pretty demanding with the dev over the nonissue of it preventing being ran on a port it hard crashed on.Pretty sure these are the original thread prior to the embarrassing bits being purged.https://archive.is/BSKrthttps://archive.is/pQXcfhttps://archive.is/edqNT
I wish Ashes 2063 had limited palette to keep up with the classics
>>12066812Lilith isn't a person in this context.
is outlaws actually any fun or one of those shitty meme games that were forgottenI'd play it now but waiting for the re-release
>>12066968I like it better than Dark Forces. Very charming game and pretty good maps in general, the only stinker is the ice expansion level.
Kind of average for the time, the Wild West theme does an awful lot of heavy lifting.Best part is the hud and the music.
Raze seens to work fine on Vulkan and OpenGL, despite the broken crosshairs, and the menus sometimes glitching out visually.
>>12066973>two minutes into this song when the Outlaw posting started>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9te8rw7pIes&list=LL&index=53Nice odds.
>>12066893Ah fuck, you're right, I did mix that up.For the two in a row, I wouldn't normally, but I got somewhat miffed the challenge got wiped along with the thread.For repeats, I assume that two in a row is the issue, otherwise we've occasionally done different maps from Plutonia and Valiant.Having not touched Osiris in many years, I actually greatly enjoyed it, so I think that I'm just going to play it for myself, and I'm gonna do so with fast monsters I think, then maybe I'll pick one of the other levels for a fast monsters challenge after October.Good run by the way, you should submit it, given that Osiris doesn't have runs for most levels.
>>12067009Osiris wad reminded me of one other map
>>12067030Is there a list somewhere of notable .wads with Egypt themes? It's a cool theme.
>>12067038from my head:epic1epic2dbp23scythe 2 episode 2av map20
>>12067038The newest MayhemTyrantApophisSekhemtiEviternity 2 episode 2
>>12066851Based as fuck.
>>12066851Could you theoretically use voxel objects to create 3D geometry?
>>12067117I guess theoretically?
>>12066951Okay, she was badgering the author, just softly-softly so, and only actually "stood up" for them after they already got fed up and left. Fuck her.I forgot about that "compatibility checks are DRM" cunt. Forum jannies really do just say anything.>>12067038Early ZDoom mod and a particular style, but Chosen.
>>12067117Yeah I guess but you need a fallback image for ports that don't support it as I understand. If you want to add something to hotpotato you can try doing the faucets in the toilet room
>>12064087>>actually trying to fix Blood IIIs this even possible? It would have to go beyond a remaster and be a full blown remake.
>>12067130I know nothing about voxels, I was brainstorming for the future.
>>12066857I made a map for that and every 30 minutes I had to step back and let my eyes rest. It's only a matter of time until someone offers an accessibility option to handle the fucked palette.Some very interesting maps there. Some kaizo bullshit, some jumpscare you half to death, some others are just regular maps but all weird and fucked up.It's a nice pack for the ten people in the world who can stare at it for longer than one minute.
>>12064087>TekwarI have a feeling that'll happen after Shatner dies.
>>12067153>Shatner diesLet's be at least realistic here, that's not going to happen.
Caved in and added another weapon to my dungeoncrawl bunker map. It's an auto shotgun replacing the plasma gun, works the same way too - let go and you get to handle a lengthy animation. It'll be pretty well-hidden but should be a nice reward.Added some nice decoration too. This area is meant to be an R&R center with some amenities, including a library and some reading rooms. If my doomcute skills are good enough, I want to add an air hockey table, some TVs and some discarded bottles and food packages.
>>12067148I don't think that Blood 2 is even conceptually good, it'd be much better to just make an alternate sequel which isn't lame.
>>12065527Yeah Tanks are pretty cool, I like their sfx. But I like the new Gunner Captain or whatever name they have
>>12063834Will Death Wish 2.0 be exclusive to the new new Blood remaster?
>>12067030I wanted to record it for next challenge well fuck
>>12066851This pic makes me want to try brains with potatoes and booze
>>12063836Not news, but don't forget to choose an image that makes the party hat work for the next thread
>>12067158Cool vibe with the level there.
>>12067225Oh hey, happy birthday 4chan. What'd fit for the next thread?
>>12067240Anything that would make it look like the character is wearing the hat
maybe the right height of cropping of this one could work
>>12066524its pretty much just nblood, yeah. but it feels better. i dont know how to really describe it, but it feels more consistent, in my opinion. it isnt like it really matters, its all the same
>>12067205fuck me
how is Supplice?
>>12067296at least now i know that the correct strat is infighting
>>12066815so just stick to Nblood?
Not a good level to pistol start
>>12067336just don't rush it, let them infight for a bit
>>12067298Doom if he Marathon Red. A lot of people get upset over the writing style of the corporate terminals, but I read it as somebody who has experience with corporate Yammer channels.
Not relevant to the thread at all, but it occurs to me how much Max Payne is a Build style shooter - protagonist with a personality, oodles of environmental interaction - but in the third person and dark and dank.
>>120672963 times already. I wanna bfg him from the back and he immediately switches targets
>6:00AM on Day 1 of Spooktober>still not inundated with 500 new Halloween map packsIt's so over
>>12067485I believe hot potato's gonna be finished by the start of next week. How about we make a small halloween-themed wad?
>>12067485Good things end because not only do people move on with their lives, but because of people like you who pretend to care, and never contribute. In the words of Brendan Gleeson in The Village (2004),>If it ends, it ends
>>12067413Thanks, 3D Realms!
>>12067202Nah, just that it's going to be bundled in with it when it releases. Still going to be on ModDB.
>>12067202>>12067505There's going to be another Blood remaster wtf????
>>12067510You miss the news? Nightdive's remastering Blood but based on the source code this time. Unfortunately, it's $30 instead of being a free update for whatever reason.https://youtu.be/sFjJU5lf2K0
>>12067487>and never contributeBut my map's in Ad Mortem. I've contributed at least once, you silly donkus.
>>12067515You're paying 30 bucks to keep the name of Blood alive. That's business and community.>>12067516Replace never with rarely you fucking faggot.
>>12067510Yes. Old Fresh Supply stays unupdated though.New remaster is supposed to be more accurate due to the access to original source code, but it still doesn't use Build proper (either because of Kaiser's distaste or the fact that it probably would have to be licensed from Ken).
>>12067517Yeah you better eat that fucking crow and get mad. Neener neener neener.
>>12067523Calling you a faggot is just a fact. See ya never again. Hope you ante up and make some Doom spooky shit instead of bitching. I'll go further - I hope you never bitch again in your life and instead fight for change.
>>12067515>>12067517>Have you ever owned a business?
>>12067526Nope, actually gonna go e-mail some project leads and tell them to cancel anything spooky coming up, just to spite you. There'll never be a Halloween DOOM map ever again, and it's all this guy's fault.
>>12067530Is this the test?
>>12067470good now i'm fucking stuck on the elevator
>>12067485>There likely won't be another Halloween Jam this year eitherFFFFFFFFUCK. At least the existing Halloween Jams have some neat atmospheric levels. Spooktober for Doom is also a thing, and while it has a bad reputation a handful of the levels are actually fun too. Then there's Ad Mortem, which doesn't quite feel Halloweeny enough for me (it lacks that certain cheese) but it's a good mapset so whatever.
Upholding my pledge to make a room a day through October. Picked BTSX texture pack for this, since it's been recently released.
>>12067538It's funny how that happened. Isn't it the same mechanic that was used to get Romero secret?
>>12067546Looks like it.
>>12067413Don't forget>gameplay that involves leaping around like a rabbit on crack
>>12066563I don't know. I think both mods playable in DOS version though? Unless they somehow were able to apply FS changes there, which I doubt.As things currently stand, I'm also having a bad time of taking any statement from Nightdive devs at face value.>>12066721>They were breaking mod compatibility already, so why not take one extra step and put game code in VM?They can do that when they want it to. Otherwise it's "staying true to the game" bullshit that's quite laughable when you account for the whole picture with their output.>>12066968>I'd play it now but waiting for the re-releaseJust get the original and wait for Force Engine support.>>12067202>>12067505Nightdive calling Death Wish and Marrow "new content" for their paid patch is a very bullshit move to its creators.
>>12063836[9-28] Blood Alpha Restoration Patch is updated, restores the '96 alpha build of Blood.https://www.moddb.com/mods/blood-alpha-restoration-patch/downloads/blood-alpha-restoration-patchSame guy that did >>12066690. Has some neat stuff.https://www.moddb.com/members/life-of-agony/modshttps://www.moddb.com/members/life-of-agony/addons
>Gameplay mods have flying enemies that make no sound aside from their alert/death sound>Only way you could reliably know they're there is when you start getting hit with rocket barrages
>>12067009I meant we should avoid doing 2 in a row, yeah. Although variety in general is the goal. You could theoretically pick 2 different wads in a row, but if they're really similar it would still feel monotonous. I considered submitting my demos, but since I recorded using nugget-doom, they technically aren't permitted under competition rules anymore and might therefore be more hassle than it's worth to add. I don't think every wad needs to be table filled necessarily.
>>12067546well not today, i keep dying stupid deathsI hope snoopdogg anon has something prepared
>>12066983It's a shame that the mods support is so mediocre in Raze, especially when its Doom counterpart can run (or "run") 99.9% of existing Doom mapsets.
>>12067659Nugget isn't eligible? GAY.
What was that wad with pokemon furry OC footfaggotry?
Why was Carmack always so autistic and nitpicky about licensing the id tech engine unlike Unreal or Renderware developers?
>>12067691Thats what you get for using the worst duke port. Raze is a fuckin meme, is it even still being developed?
>>12067767>the worst duke portIt's the best SW port.
>>12067769Better than VoidSW?
>>12067780From what I can tell VoidSW is functionally abandoned, it gets like 3-4 nothingburger commits per year from a single guy who worked on Redux.Five years later it's still not possible to set an offset for a custom statusbar, so it's still not possible to have a widescreen statusbar. So if you want a statusbar, your only option is picrel abominations.
>>12067130I made a really quick one, and converted it to a .kvx, but placing it in the wad(over the potato, as a test) does nothing.I still know nothing about creating voxels.https://files.catbox.moe/e7ytt8.kvx
>>12067791What's even more annoying is that EDuke32 (which is right next to VoidSW exe file) have a borderless statusbar now. I don't like it because it offsets the weapon way too low, but the fact that the basic feature that could've been added to both sourceports only got added to EDuke32 despite the fact that you can't even download one source port without the other tells quite a lot.
>>12067797Meanwhile Raze aka "worst duke port" aka "a fucking meme".
>>12067801For me:>Raze for SW, Eduke for Duke, Notblood for Blood, Rednukem for Rednecks.
>>12067807...Redneck Rampage had a Japanese release?
>>12067807>Eduke for DukeExcept Alien World Order which is easier to play in Raze.
>>12067812Think these weebs liked it? Who knows maybe there's some niche scene of them making more RR content
>>12067812It's a fairly polarizing game but yeah, seems to have done pretty decently financially. Not sure how it compared to Blood's financial success.>>12067817>Alien World OrderI enjoyed it most through Randy's modded port.I also need to compare hitscan aiming assist between Raze, Eduke, and DOS: When I played Raze it reduced all spread.
Died the 4th time, I should just stop...>>12067796Hmm when I open this kvx in goxel it also looks empty and the layers tab shows some big number as z coordinate. Can you maybe send it in whatever format you created it?
>>12067769Better than BuildGDX?
>>12067828Anything is better than Java shitfest.
>>12067831What's the problem with Java?
>>12067820>Not sure how it compared to Blood's financial successWasn't blood's perform mediocre globally? The game released after quake. I'm pretty sure everyone can agree it is an absolute kinofest for old school fps games today, but I can't imagine people in the 90s would give it that much of attention
>>12067839It did ok enough that they tried for a sequel, but it was never a barn burner. The sequel then basically killed its prospects as a franchise.
>>12067732
>>12067835Having it installed is like bending over with your arse in the air in the middle of a prison and hoping nobody fucks you.
>>12067826ok i fixed it somehow by moving to origin, exporting to vox, importing back again, exporting to kvx
>>12067835Most of the times it's bloated as hell, slow as hell, and a security nightmare.
>>12067856https://files.catbox.moe/zya55c.voxThis is what I originally exported it as, I was using MagicaVoxel.Actually shading the thing is going to be a real pain. I hate working with Doom's palette.
>>12067831And as for the port itself?>>12067849Skill issue.
>>12067124>I forgot about that "compatibility checks are DRM" cunt.It's absurd that anybody took issue with it being in the mod, especially when it was done entirely for practical reasons and without any kind of malice at all.
trying out blood death wish. what are these maps supposed to be? there's nothing in the wiki about them. the first one is just 2 floors in a building with every gun/ammo type but no enemies. are they unfinished files or something?
>>12067972BB stands for BloodBath, the game's Deathmatch mode. They're multiplayer maps.
>>12067975got it, thanks.
>>12067972>>12067975additional question: i'm using fresh supply to dw (i know, i know). it appears to only loads the maps in isolation. i get the credits each time i finish an episode, it doesn't flow like a campaign is expected to. is that normal in shit like nBlood or does fresh supply just suck for addons like this?
>>12067817Works fine eduke with stopgap.
>>12068013That's why I said it's easier, not that it's impossible with EDuke32.With Stopgap you need too keep the whole Randiversary Edition game somewhere, which is like 1GB+ of bloat you don't need, while with Raze it's a single 100mb GRP file that has nothing but the new episode itself and can be used just like any other GRP file.
>>12068007>it appears to only loads the maps in isolation>i get the credits each time i finish an episodeI'm gonna need clarification because you're kinda giving me mixed signals here: Are you seeing the credits after playing multiple maps, or are you seeing it each time you finish a map?
Am I boring for making my toilets closed?
>>12063840>>12063892i already bought their last piece of shit attempt there's no way i'm giving them any more money. fix the one that's already out.
>>12068039Are they all closed?A common trope I've seen is to have at least one stall different than the rest, like maybe it's open, dirtier, or has a corpse or item.
>>12068037i finished e1, i get credits and dumped to main menu. same thing with e2. if i play it in something like nblood, is it smart enough to chain the maps together so that it doesn't immediately go to credits and goes to the next correct map?
>>12068047Players will surely smirk and nod at a subtle postironic deconstruction and subversion of the one different stall trope
>>12068039every toilet should face another and the users have to maintain eye contact
>>12068050Oh, no, it's supposed to do that. Every time you finish an episode, it's supposed to show the credits sequence and then take you back to the menu.
>>12068039immersive cute is never boring
>>12063834Managed to misread this as "tender loving cat" and then thought, that's not a cat.
>>12063834You are now aware of the fact that this picture was drawn by a furry porn artist.
>>12068057ok, i wasn't sure if addon campaigns were supposed to explicitly behave like the OG ones. thanks.
>>12068047They're all closed so far because I've been copypasting them. A lot of the less important rooms like bathrooms/dorms are copypasted with only very minor differences, since I want the map to look like it could house around 30 people. Originally it was 60, might go for that still.>>12068054I'll have that at least at one point. Maybe in a secret.>>12068058Thanks. Have an air hockey table.
>>12068063You mean Mystical? He used to lurk here ages ago and did some art for HDoom as well.
>>12068073Pictured: How Cream was made.
I couldn't keep it in my pants, I wanted some atmospheric autumn kino well before Halloween itself. I love these arguably bad but soulful projects so much and I miss them being a thing.
>>12068073Why rabbits anyway? Can anyone imagine any other type of pet that would've suited the Doomguy just the same as rabbits, or even better? That's if we exclude those humorous texts and ending slides from the game for such theories to exist of course, as if they never existed.>inb4 quite obvious Marine's Best Friend
>>12068091>Why rabbits anyway?It was just a quick joke Adrian drew for Doom 1, then it became a careless joke at the end of Ultimate Doom.
>>12068071nice
>>12068087kino indeed
>>12067038Evil Egypt.
>>12068125I only just discovered how to get the widowmaker on the watertower zooming around with noclip to take screenshots. Years of playing this map and others every Halloween and only now do I realise you need to try to escape the map by running along the fence to be teleported up there.
>>12068094Yeah, I guess there has to be some background for such spirit animal to exist, even if it's an oddball joke or programmer's own fascination with dogs. Nonetheless, I was asking if any other kind of animal could fit the role of a hardened space marine's companion.
>>12068091>Why rabbits anyway?Have you seen bunnies? They're cute.
>>12068143>Nonetheless, I was asking if any other kind of animal could fit the role of a hardened space marine's companion.A dog would be better, but that would be a bummer. Rabbits are cute but no one cares about them as much as cats or dogs. so seeing one impaled - or seeing tons get lit up in Shadow Warrior - isn't much of a downer.
>>12068091bnuy
>>12068150>>>/vt/
>>12068146One could easily imagine, for example, the Rekkrguy being a dog type of person. But by the unfortunate circumstances, he may have gotten to dislike the rabbits and their smaller brethren.
>>12068151Those are tuhus, so they would go on >>>/jp/>>12068163Those are good stone textures.
>>12068163>But by the unfortunate circumstances, he may have gotten to dislike the rabbits and their smaller brethren.The secret map caused it.
>>12068151What the other anon said, and I don't have that many pics of bnuys so these will have to make do.>>12068163So Doomguy is a rabbit person and Rekkrguy is a dog person. What about the rest of the crew? Bloodguy, Ninjaguy and Quakeguy?
>>12068193Duke Nukem enjoys domestic canines of the female variety.
>>12068193Duke is definitely a dog person. Caleb is the type of guy who hates cats but if you give him one he would kill another cult to protect the beast. Wang is not allowed near animals because he would 100% try to eat one no matter what it is. Not sure about Ranger, never played Quak
>>12068193>>12068217Caleb is a cat personhttps://www.moddb.com/mods/the-way-of-ira
I thought Doomguy was the biggest dogfag out there.
>>12068178>Those are good stone texturesThanks. I repainted some thief textures for a texture pack I abandoned and then shrunk them even smaller for rekkr.
I love Doom.
>>12068217>wangWhat about birds? He can't eat them if he can't catch them.
>>12068258He got a fuckin nuke
NEW THREAD>>12068267>>12068267>>12068267Baking earlier for birthday hat
>>12068043>fix the one that's already out.B-but, anon! They fixed it! Their work must be paid. Don't forget to thank them for this opportunity.
