DOOM THREAD / RETRO FPS THREAD - Last thread: >>12089221Doom/Quake/Duke/Heretic/Hexen/Unreal/Sam/Half-Life/etcGameplay, WADs/Maps/Mods, Source PortsAll other 90s FPS welcome~ Let's post like gentlemen ~FAQ/GENERAL GUIDEhttps://rentry.org/vrbinSO YOU WANT TO PLAY SOME FUCKING DOOM(or Quake, Duke, Marathon, Deus Ex)https://imgur.com/a/wWS8zXzSame thing, in video format:https://youtu.be/ietb4JwaaXAhttps://youtu.be/DhOjleMqwdQhttps://youtu.be/CGj4gXyCzg0== GAMES/RESOURCES ==DOOM Quickstart (IWADs etc): https://mediafire.com/file/wuniyrhsjjgq4y8QUAKE Trilogy FAQ: https://pastebin.com/Ucb11XhUPortaDOOM:https://github.com/Kroc/PortaDOOM/releasesHALF-LIFE (GoldSrc) Anthology:https://mega.nz/file/GRUCGbAY#RhOiqxnf7UPOiXcJNbRh-prKIEVRhjJaEpAkt34lyZg4CHAN DOSPACK + Win98 games:https://mega.nz/#F!3t8nzSIS!947kyMN6Z80f8HS7q2XlqAAssorted /vr/ shooters, mods, etc:https://mega.nz/#F!QXIk1bjB!NHRWGIfjcc77PyGgRlga4Qhttps://mega.nz/#F!GtEQTISJ!CCJGyPEEEsZasc1PMXicUAMIDI COLLECTIONShttps://files.catbox.moe/2hul76.ziphttps://mega.nz/file/dWQ3SThI#qYcpa4eGQj6ElyRZgjGqszR59dh4Fq9D3qXYee54kZQhttps://archive.org/details/archiveteam-geocities-midi-collection-2009https://archive.org/details/midiru-archive-2022-02-25.7z== INFO/LINKS ==OFFICIAL DOOM WIKIhttps://doomwiki.org/WHERE TO FIND WADSVanilla/Boom: https://doomworld.com/forum/4-wads-mods/ZDoom: https://forum.zdoom.org/viewforum.php?f=19/idgames: https://doomworld.com/idgames/MODDING RESOURCEShttps://forum.zdoom.org/viewforum.php?f=37https://realm667.com/== /VR/DOOM COMMUNITY ==THREAD ARCHIVEShttps://desuarchive.org/vr/search/text/"doom thread"/type/op/OUR WADS/MODShttps://rentry.org/vrdepotMAKING NEW THREADS PROPERLYhttps://pastebin.com/8mDnrsrBIMAGE/WAD DATABASEhttps://vrdoom.booru.org/https://clovr.xyz/wadsup/MULTIPLAYER SERVERSUS West: https://clovr.xyz/CA/US Midwest: https://macgu.fun/
=== CURRENT PROJECTS ===Duke It Out in /vr/Game : DN3D | Deadline : Jan 1st 2026Tile/Con pack: https://files.catbox.moe/thm4q7.zipRules: https://desuarchive.org/vr/post/11835634HOT POTATO, aka Deep /vr/ied PotatoGame : Doom 2, MBF21 | Deadline : HOTPOTATO99.WADRules: https://desuarchive.org/vr/post/12030515Latest build: HOTPOTATO85.WADhttps://files.catbox.moe/gn8e9v.zip=== CURRENT RELEASES ===/Vertex Relocation/IWAD : Doom 2 | Format : BoomRC5: https://files.catbox.moe/a4tbzi.zip=== NEWS ===[10-12] Serious Sam 2 gets 25th anniversary patch.https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/204340/view/520852898086650127[10-1] ALIZARIN (RC1) ~ Avant-Garde Monochromatic Megawadhttps://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/155368[10-8] Nightdive delisting original System Shock 2.https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/238210/view/503964319779651936[10-8] New EduardoAndFriends wadhttps://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/155461[10-5] GMDX_AE mod updated to v1.1https://moddb.com/mods/give-me-deus-ex-augmented-edition[10-4] DOOM & DOOM 2 re-releases by Nerve will be delisted from mobile platforms due to recent Unity security vulnerability.https://msrc.microsoft.com/update-guide/advisory/ADV256762[10-3] RAMP 2025 is available to downloadhttps://ramp2025.doomproject.com/[10-2] Sunder 2510 released with MAP21 "The Leviathan's Arteries"https://www.doomworld.com/forum/post/2971041[10-1] SCAMP2025, a mapset for Chasm: The Rifthttps://moddb.com/games/chasm-the-rift/addons/scamp2025[9-30] Doom 3: Phobos is now on Steamhttps://store.steampowered.com/app/3978420[9-29] Blood Alpha Restoration Patch update, currently WIPhttps://moddb.com/mods/blood-alpha-restoration-patch[9-28] Nightdive re-releasing Blood. Again.https://youtu.be/sFjJU5lf2K0=== PREVIOUS ===https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-vrTgPGmlLwdO5VHHCJMxmRD05E6XlNmqHIN8aykRG0TO SUBMIT NEWS, REPLY TO THIS POST (ideally with the [MM-DD] date bracket)
doom rocks
>>12096141Quack is betterer
>>12096141doom papers. I win.
>>12096142that mayhaps possibly be argued
>>12096145OH N-
I found out that the theme song for Space Battleship Yamato is part of Simpsons Doom.Not sure what it has to do with Doom, the Simpsons or why it's even meant to be funny... But it's in there, so that's cool, I guess?
>>12096156I remember the Simpsons Doom 2 I played back in the 90s had the old Star-Trek fight theme used as the elevator sound effect.
I think it was this one:https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/themes/simpsons/simpsn2i
So, what's everybody been playing lately?I've been giving PV̄RGĀTŌRIA MAESTITIAE a go, it's pretty neat but probably not for everybody, definitely has a mapped by a speedrunner feel to it.
>>12096130>>12096134>SUB MORTEM : A Dead Simple Halloween ProjectJust for the mood of the season, a simple and straightforward mapping project.>Assets: Ad Mortem, no additional assets or custom textures (there's already LOTS).https://files.catbox.moe/tsacv4.zip>iWAD: Doom 2>Map Format: MBF21>Constraint: Playable area MUST fit 2048x2048 box.>Deadline: Your level should be fully completed by October 31st.Keep carving out those maps!
>>12096130>WAITING FOR ROMERO TO PLAYi don't get it. romero streams and plays tons of wads all the time
>>12096208confusing dimensions happened
>>12096208>mouse blade historian>wtf ranger>ahoy ass
>>12096156because who doesn't love UCHUU SENKAN YA-MA-TOOOOOOO
>>12096208We should try to post "moo" as many times as possible so the next cloud will say moo in the middle. It's only right to honor the dead.
>>12096296anyways the real question is when are we getting this classic in a Doom wadhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XazyhnymUQo
>>12096130how exactly did the cyberdemon and spider mastermind return as reoccurring enemies in doom 2?for my answer, i'd say they were revived by a higher demonic force in the higharchy. somethimg something icon of sin aka john romero
So, who's your favorite Doom speedrunner?Hard mode - no trannies
>>12096307>go to hell>kill demon>it just goes back to hell
>>12096302Moo, moo moo moo, moo moo, moo.
>>12096307It's the same logic that applies to the Castlevania games: Boss gets bodied, big bad is annoyed the boss got their ass kicked, and then demoted their sorry ass to be a mini-boss/common enemy.JUST LIKE ALL THOSE AXE ARMORS!
>>12096308You.
>>12096313>the cow machineAbsolutely based.
>>12096308why, our very own Eggplant, of course
>>12096286
>>12096302Moo moo mooMoo moo moo moo moo mooMoo moo moo moo mooMooMoo moo moo mooMoo Moo MooMooMoo mooMoo moo moo mooMoo moo moo moo moo moo moo moo mooMoo moo moo moo moo
>>12096324Haven't seen your screens in awhile, hope you've been good.
>>12096313>secret cow level chad
>>12096313>Knee Deep in Milk
>>12096334I picked a hell of a day to be lactose intolerant. Moo.
>>12096302moo moo moo moo moo moo moo moo moo moo moo moo moo moo moo moo moo moo moo moo moo moo moo moo moo moo moo moo moo moo moo moo moo moo moo moo moo moo moo moo moo moo moo moo moo moo moo moo moo moo moo moo moo moo moo moo moo moo moo moo moo moo moo moo moo moo moo moo moo moo moo moo moo moo moo moo moo moo moo moo moo moo moo moo moo moo moo moo moo moo moo moo moo moo moo moo moo moo moo moo moo moo moo moo moo moo moo moo moo moo moo moo moo moo moo moo moo moo moo moo moo moo moo moo moo moo moo moo moo moo moo moo moo moo moo moo moo moo moo moo moo moo moo moo moo moo moo moo moo moo moo moo moo moo moo moo moo moo moo moo moo moo moo moo moo moo moo moo moo moo moo moo moo moo moo moo moo moo moo moo moo moo moo moo moo moo moo moo moo moo moo moo moo moo moo moo moo moo moo moo moo moo moo moo moo moo moo moo moo moo moo moo moo moo moo moo moo moo moo moo moo moo moo moo moo moo moo moo moo moo moo moo moo moo moo moo moo moo moo moo moo moo moo moo moo moo moo moo moo moo moo moo moo moo moo moo moo moo moo moo moo moo moo moo moo moo moo moo moo moo moo moo moo moo moo moo moo moo moo moo moo moo moo moo moo moo moo moo moo moo moo moo moo moo...moo.
>>12096328I've been alright, thanks. And here the whole time. I just haven't played or worked on anything in a while.
>>12096302Moo...
>>12096353Awesome, and same for the most part. Just been posting some Quake.>>12096358Thread is truly blessed now.
>inb4 "reeee old link!"
>>12096373stop man
>>12096358this is an unironically beautiful image
>>12096358Peanut Elephant: Life in First Person
Just found out there was a pre order sale for a limited edition Doom snes remake, and it even has a newer chip set in the cartridge to boost the fps. I'm so mad and upset I missed this. I really can't believe they are only making a couple hundred for pre order and stopping there.
>>12096406>caring about preordering a limited run repro cart of a console port made by a recently dead trannyngmi
>>12096406Anon it's LGR, it's overpriced, probably made out of crap and will likely set fire to your console, you've missed out on nothing of value.
>>12096134https://x.com/MannyCalavera12/status/1977799227867832601Duke3D is getting a fan port to the Build2 engine (yes, that exists and was made by Silverman himself in the 00s)
>>1209613420th, not 25th.
>>12096408>repro cart of a console port made by a recently dead trannyRandy Linden isn't a tranny, nor dead.
>>12096518That's cool. I always thought build 2 should be used for something, but I'm not smart enough to do it myself.
>>12096208>favorite textures groundOk McGee
>>12096406Speaking as someone who has been a LRG customer before, it's not worth it at all.
>>12096408Who the fuck are you talking about?>>12096546SHIT!
>>12096208>post old doom gameswill do!
>>12096184Been playing Toilet of the Gods and for a WAD that's called "Toilet of the Gods" it's been great. Very unique visuals and creative fights.
>>12096408are you just always thinking about trannies or what
>>12096730this is a very trannycoded wad for the most hardcore speedtrannies
SpeedrunorChallengerun?
>>12096773How can I identify them?
I love Doom 64 but cutting revenants and archviles really hamstrung its potentialI get cartridge space was an issue on N64 and cuts had to be made, but who the FUCK thought adding THIS STUPID FAGGOT in instead of revenants or archviles was a good idea? Of all the fucking doom 2 enemies they pick the worst one. Hell, I would have taken revenants and archviles over arachnotrons and mancubi too.
>>12096804Roiding the meatball I think was a good compromise for not having the Archie, they needed an elite enemy which made you go "Oh no!"
>>12096561He's a happily married man, actually, hid a little love declaration to his wife in SNES Doom back in the day and all.>>12096335I believe there's pills which would help your stomach process lactose.
>>12096804https://www.moddb.com/mods/the-d64ifierYou're welcome.
>>12096406Limited Run Games suck, anon. Listen to >>12096409 and >>12096683. You dodged the bullet.>>12096518>MannyCalavera12You're better off ignoring this retard.
>>12096789Why not both?
>>12096324Would you happen to be the same anon who made some tweaks to RS '93? LFW lost them and would like to have them around. I don't *think* he's going to update the mod, but it sorta feels like he might.
>>12096789>ChallengeI'm on 1 week doom hiatus so won't participate in this one sorryI'd play a Quake 1/Blood/Heretic challenge tho
>>12096302Moo
>>12096302Uh, qrd?
>Replaying the Halloween Jam Quake maps>Man, it would be nice to have these again>Look on Quaddicted, Map-Center and out of desperation Slipseer>Nope, still nothingCovid absolutely killed Quake mapping projects. I know it's starting up again lately and I hope Map-Center is the start of a new age, but I miss the silly seasonal projects.Fighting evil santa in the Twisted Christmas Jam was a huge highlight for me.
>>12097009Unload 30+ on a moo or two.
>>12097012I miss when we had enough Quake mappers here to get a project going. A /vr/ Christmas jam could be kino.
>>12097019I remember Violent Rumble. I don't know how to map for Quake at all, but it was neat to try each map out from guys here, some were obviously noobs but I still had a good time with every level.
>>12097009
>>12097024Violent Rumble was a lot of fun and a big counterpoint to the “covid killed Quake mapping” claim. That was nearly five years ago now, lots of time to learn Quake mapping if you wanted?
>>12097019There's dozens of us! well maybe a dozen, maybeI'd definitely participate in a /vr/ map project again. Last one I did was fucking HUH in 2019 lmao
>>12097048but moo have resistance to rocket
>>12097107Only the big moo does, the small moos don't.
>>12096302moo moo moo moo moo mooooooo
>>12097107>resistanceand yet, it still dies. curious...
>>12096130>Advertise Refreshed Supply as new port made from scratch with source code as a base>Bring in Build Engine nerd to test it>He says it's just more accurate version of Fresh Supply>Developer literally confirms it, saying that they used source code to compare and change already developed shitNightdive is incompetent even with misleading customersCaptcha: T0Y PR
>>12097108It's a moo point.
>>12096134Hot Potato link is out of date.HOTPOTATO89.WAD: https://files.catbox.moe/y9hbj8.zip
if moo don't work, use more moo
>>12097112Moo moo moo, moo moo, moo, moo.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eK4Iz6K2xHQOne day I will use these moos for a monster replacer.
>>12097115>this isn't for puristsIt is fresh supply 2.0, now as a DLCThis is a bad moove
Why is it called Doom 2 when its just an expansion pack? Shouldn't Doom 3 be the actual sequel?
>>12097148It was the earlyish 90s still, it was the done thing to knock out stuff on the same engine with a few added features and called it a sequel.Also Doom 3 doesn't really relate to the previous two at all, mostly just in theming and shit.
>>12097154>Also Doom 3 doesn't really relate to the previous two at all, mostly just in theming and shit.What would you call it instead?
>>12097159>What would you call it instead?Moo.
>>12097107Only to splash damage
>>12097148>Doom 2 is not a sequel because it's the same game, basically just a glorified expansion pack>Doom 3 is not a sequel because it's a completely different game, basically barely Doom at all
>>12097164It's not really unreasonable to think this way. You can have a game that changes enough about its predecessor without changing too much. If DOOM 64 had been released as the sequel and D2 didn't exist then I don't think you'd have anybody calling it a glorified expansion pack.
>>12097167Imagine the absolute non-existing state of modding scene if that was the case.
>>12097167>the game with less content and less interesting gameplay additions would be the true sequel.
>>12097171>less contentIt has more content than D1.>less interesting gameplayCompletely subjective, I think it's a lot more interesting. This has nothing to do with what we're talking about anyway.
>>12097168Modding didn't start with Doom 2, it would just have a few less things by default.
>>12097182> a fewAnon...
>>12097179In the wake of Final Doom, I'd say its carried hardest by its atmosphere. The improved pain elementals are at least pretty cool.
>>12097107And Shamblers take half damage from rockets and grenades, but use enough (and in Quake's case, a Quad), and they'll still go down.Cyberdemons don't take splash damage, but the direct hit still hurts pretty good, so it still works out well, even if plasma is more practical in comparison.
>>12097194Unload 30+ on a baa or two.
>>12097064Between IRL responsibilities and existing obligations to Doom projects, I don't really have the time for that. Sorry :(
>>12097201that'd be Might and Magic VI-VIII, not Doom
>>12097160>Cyberdemon in Doom and Doom 2 roars when it spots you>Cyberdemon in Doom 3 makes a loud mooMy god...
>>12097205>not DoomTrue, it's not Doom, it's Quake.
>>12096208How do I do this for a different general?
>>12097213>furry shamblerfake news
>>12097213I was always more partial to the Shambler just having a white hide, but I was never strictly opposed to them being fuzzy.The middleground would be them having a nasty fur coat like a walrus, where it's thin, dense, and soaks up a lot of nasty waste and blood.
>>12097214This is what I use: https://catalog.neet.tv/harlequin.html
>>12097221Thank you so much dearest sir.May many Vishnu blessings come upon your family and village.
>>12097194>Shamblers take half damage from rockets and grenades>Doom wiki rocket launcher damage:>20-160 (direct hit), 0-128 (blast radius), 148-288 in totalClose to half there, too, but thankfully maps like Tower of Babel just have an absolute assload of rockets to pickup.>>12097204No worries for apologies, I'm not the guy frequently wistful towards wanting seasonal AD maps. I got enough content for all of these shooters to tide me over for...ever, almost.
> QUAKE CHALLENGE <Record a skill 2 speed demo of LibreQuake map lq_e1m8.Pack download and example demo in 2:44:https://files.catbox.moe/dfipvx.zipIt is a mod version so use normal quake 1 as id1.>vkquake -game lq1This is a current build from git, the release version is pretty outdated and not so fun (low on health). I also recorded a slightly faster example demo with funny rj off Scrag but i accidentally deleted it.To play back demo on vkQuake:>playdemo vr_exampleTo record demo on vkQuake:start the game>skill 2>record vr_demo lq_e1m8moo moo >>12096130
>>12097148That's what sequels were back then. Same basic gameplay, but with new levels and maybe a couple of gimmicks added on.
>>12097239>lq_e1m8I don't see a map called that, should I assume it's just e1m8 in the libre pak1?
>>12097164Doom 3 is the real Doom 2.
>>12097254Incorrect.Doom 1/2 together are the first game, or just DOOMDoom 64 is the real Doom 2Doom 3 is its own thing really
Moo moo, moo moo moo moo, moo.. moo.
>>12097260>Doom 1/2 together are the first game, or just DOOM>Doom 64 is the real Doom 2That then brings us back to >>12097171 with D64 having less content than Doom 1 + 2.
>>12097260>Doom 1/2 together are the first game, or just DOOMCorrect.Doom 64 is just Doom 64, just a console port that is quite different from the originals (but still not enough to be considered a sequel), like with any other game back then.Doom 3 is in the same category with 2016/Eternal/TDA. Sure it's not as retarded as Zoom, but still not a Doom.tl;dr Doom ended with Doom.
>>12097186What that middle mouth do?
>>12097278So there is in fact no Doom 2?
>>12097292Rise of the Triad is Doom 2.
>>12097239
>>12097293Nah it's Wolf3D 3.
>>12096804any enemy is better than archville, that's a fact. Resurrection of enemies = faggotry. Simple as
>>12097305His attack and speed are cool though, him without resurrecting enemies ability is a fun monster to encounter.
>>12096130>still using the old link that not only has shit order of games, 3 less games in the doom pic but cant even be seen from the UKIs this some kind of persistent troll? Just use the link that was posted in the previous thread that has v9
>megafag is bri'ishlmao
>>12097309Oh my god who gives a fuck at this point, christ
>>12097309>>12096373
>>12097305Arguably more interesting than just spawning the same single type of enemy, but no need to fight when idSoft gave us both. This trend would continue with Quake 2 but via Rogue Entertainment when it came to Medic Commandos.>>12096373I mean...you're not wrong:https://files.xvertigox.com/vertigo-archival/so-you-want-to-play-some-Retro-FPS/https://archive.org/details/so-you-want-to-play-some-retro-fpsThe irony here is that those links are more helpful than the three """games""" that were added.
>that feel when some viking wad is better than your AAA+ unofficial new episode of DOOM
>>12097220>EyesNO. THAT IS NOT A SHAMBLER!
>>12097314The sheer rent free we've attained recently is unreal. Did we get involved in some unpopular war or something? I don't keep up with the news.
>>12097323Rekkr does a lot of cool as fuck stuff while Sigil doesn't do that much of interest beyond being pretty decent, with Sigil 2 failing to even stick to that.
>Try to get back into Duke>Hitscan feels off and more punishing than Doom>The levels are all frontloaded so the good shit is at the start and the end is shit>Episode 2 gives up entirely and it's all corridorsDamn.
>>12097350>Episode 2Unironically my favourite duke ep
>>12097350>>Hitscan feels off and more punishing than DoomEnforcers can't get hitstunned and battlelords happen more frequently. I also don't agree with the "all corridors" comment or for the general hate that episode 2 gets.
>>12096943They seem to be hit or miss. But pricey regardless.
>>12097295Shit like this is why I can't take it seriously when people say that projects like FreeDoom and LibreQuake are meant for you to build your own games off of. Like nah, these are clearly just narcissism projects by the mentally ill who want to latch on to a beloved game.If I can't remember to take vanilla assets out of my GZDoom WAD before I start selling it then that's my problem.
>>12097325Oh shit, you're right. Yeah, that's a big no-no, the Shambler can be different things, but it must NEVER have eyes. Unless it's googly eyes, because then it's funny.
>>12097295Why do they always hide this shit in their maps? I like anime girls and massive tits, but I'd never slap a big advertisement about it into a map, even out of bounds. That's the real problem with them, making this shit their entire personality and considering it an attack if you're annoyed by it.
>>12097239My example demo doesn't play in ironwail for some reason. Here's another one in 3:00 recorded in ironwail and also plays in vkquakehttps://files.catbox.moe/4vp703.dem>>12097250You need development version, not release>>12097295What's wrong with trans pride?
I had prboom set up in a way that movement and aiming felt literally perfect to me, but I don't remember what exactly I changed. I have since tried DSDA, woof and nugget and could never replicate it. Do these ports change anything substantially different about movement/aim or have I psyopped myself?
>>12097413>>12097383It's only on the placeholder maps if you do a 180 instead of walking into the portal right in front of you.triggered snowflakes
>>12097419dsda has few quirky settings I never understood how they work like "carry fractional ticks" and "mouse stutter correction". They should probably be offWoof/Nugget/Chocolate/Crispy all feel exactly the same to me. I never tried prboom.
>>12097413I'd hide a sector drawing of an anime girl with big tits in a map desu.
Getting pleased with the yard itself.
>>12097417>what's wrong with a mentally ill penis-less man wearing women's clothing and trying to change established cultural norms for no reason other than promoting degenerate ideals bro1. Get the fuck off my board2. Kill yourself
>>12097413>I like anime girls and massive tits, but I'd never slap a big advertisement about it into a map, even out of boundsI certaInly wouldn’t hide them out of bounds.
Oh boy, we're gonna have one of these discussions again.
where does peter lawrence stand on trans rights?
>>12097434>>12097443A lot of that shit gets hidden in Doom maps either as textures, weird waifu shrines or as out of bounds sector art.
>>12097413>Why do they always hide this shit in their maps? I like anime girls and massive tits, but I'd never slap a big advertisement about it into a mapI might. I wouldn't post "ABORTION IS MURDER" or something like that though. KONY 2012
>>12097445Sure seems like a nice time to go catch up on the wads that have been coming out.
>>12097445This would all end if fags could just stop being gay.
>>12097413For the attention to get their constant dose of validity so they don't kill themselves, and as a means of marking their territory and chokehold over modding scenes and FPS communities, both retro or in general (by pissing all over them).>The Quake Champions Classic mod for Quake 1 features Duke Nukem, but he's voiced by Gianni Matragrano, and can plainly say "trans rights" whenever he gets a frag.>Call of the Machine in Quake 2 features a drop pod with a gay flag on it, this same expansion also has a total lack of Iron Maidens and the Black Widow.>Not a year goes by where Team Fortress 2 DOESN'T have a seasonal update where pride flags/messages are hidden in maps, cosmetics (the only type Valve actually bothers to remove sometimes), or even weapon skins.>The Ultrakill community.
>>12097429I assume the fractional ticks thing has either something to do with demos, or some kind of very particular edge case which the average user is unlikely to see.It'd be nice if some of these options had tooltips, or there was an included guide explaining what some of these options actually do.>>12097453Honestly not even gonna judge the coomer stuff too harshly, I don't want to be a hypocrite.>>12097458I think I'll just dive back into UDB.
>>12097461Sounds almost like fags create shit while chuds don'tmaybe try being more productive instead of shouting in the void on a korean basket weaving forum
>>12097468>only men in makeup create things chudlol
>>12097460I honestly kind of share/sympathize with your sentiments for the troons in a way, but I don't come to /vr/ to read about or discuss troons, I want places where I can get away from that nasty shit.Please.
>>12097479Kind of hard to get away from it when they insist on making themselves a presence here.
>>12097239>>12097417You uploaded the wrong version of the mod. Only the E0 maps are included.
>>12097305Fight faster, faggot. If you couldn't stop it from raising a Baron in time then you just need to git gud.
>>12097487Which is probably why you should report that kind of offtopic shit, not engage with it.
>>12097468>maybe try being more productiveYeah, because this board hasn't produced any projects of its own ever...
>>12097278Doom 64 has all new levels (like Doom 2 or Final Doom), on top of completely new graphics and sound, how is it "just a port"? It's an all new Doom game built on a modified Doom framework.
>>12097506Hot Potato should still be going, and there's >>12096186Get crackin'!
>>12097468They didn't make the games they modded that otherwise (unless as a joke) make no mention of their faggotry. Only exception is Ultrakill's haptic buttplug compatibility.
>>12097239> QUAKE CHALLENGE <Correct full version of the mappack: https://files.catbox.moe/25zs6i.zipor just extract this https://files.catbox.moe/eq3hj1.zip to what you've already downloaded.>>12097494FUCK I'm a retard. Thanks for poiting that out.
>>12097506>everyone here shares my political opinionsGonna hide some trans flags in the next project just for you
>>12097298Nope, Redneck Rampage.
>>12097423Cool. Why do you need to hide your cult stuff everywhere though?
>>12097532Why do you need to actively look for it and then shit up every single community seething about it?
>>12097526You already do that in all your maps anyway. How will we notice the difference?
>>12097532You're right, they shouldn't hide it, it should be somewhere out in the open where everyone can see it.
>>12097453map?
sure am glad the infographic spammer is gone, now we can proceed with Very Normal And Productive Discussion
>>12097541ACS Arcade.
I know MAP14 of Community Chest 4 has a hidden bare chest in it.
>>12097535>talking about shit posted in this thread>actively look forlmao
go ahead king fuck them up
>>12097556It was literally posted to seethe about it. It has no relevance to the challenge.
>>12097453Why do I find some furfag hiding his waifu in a 2007 doom map more soulful than troon shit? Is it nostalgia?
>>12097550THE.wad just has tiddys hidden in a secret in a church.
>>12097550Well it fits the wad name. I doubt other mappers had the sense to stick to the theme.
>>12097550Why were there no more community chests after that?
>>12097273You should make a secret cow level.
>>12097570Link? Hard to find it since it keeps mistaking it for DTWID
>>12097557The Horn of Conjuring really is woefully underused in Quake mods.
>>12097583https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/levels/doom2/s-u/the
>>12097538Level with me here: the sexy lady is part of the reward for finding the secret.>>12097565Lack of any further intent or message?
>>12097587It's so fun. I got a Shambler Bro a few times, and we'd team up to kick ass.
>>12097565Because the waifu thing is just some cute tribute to a character the mapper likes. The other thing is displaying dedication to the spread of a destructive mental illness. There's a huge difference.
>>120972392:19 https://files.catbox.moe/3av1vl.dema bit faster example demo
>>12097602>anime>not a destructive mental illness
>>12097602>implying furfaggotry isn't a mental illness
>>12097616Bit of a difference between bodily mutilation and fondness for a character.
Shut the fuck up, don't respond to bait and stay on topic
>>12097621You're mutilating your race by jacking off to cartoon characters instead of getting your dick wet.
>>12097314>another retarded conspiracy by the anti-doom troll>>12097319Clearly nobody and it's a bad thing. Not saying it's particularly important but it's probably a bad trend to completely stop giving a shit about anything in OP.
>>12097616Anime titties are a sickness, and cranking my hog is the cure.>>12097557It really is maximum fun watching a Shambler rush over to pimpslap a bunch of Ogres.It's like infighting in Doom, it NEVER fails to ellicit a chuckle from me.
>>12097632see >>12097451
>>12097331>The sheer rent free we've attained recently is unreal.The only person here in who's head megaman conversion lives rent free is the spammer you're replying to. Most people don't care, some people want the new version of the infographic to be used because they worked on them and it makes no sense not to and that's about it.But the mod-pocketed troll will do his best to create an appearance that a ton of people hate the idea of megaman. Last thread he actually uploaded a collage of his samefagging where he pretends to be a megaman guy spazzing out and then samefagged a bunch of responses to that collage as if it's some epic own and not an embarrassingly transparent false flag.That's the level of autism we're talking about.
>>12097307true
ok what the fuck is rekkr? I thought Romero only released Sigil 1 and 2 after Final Doom
>>12097381https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lS3ja5JnkAQhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MvkZkgmpg2w
>>12097331>Did we get involved in some unpopular war or something? I don't keep up with the news.The biggest part of the 'arc' is this thread https://warosu.org/vr/thread/12060373The fun happens further down here >>12062896Comments like "I didn't make MM8 deathmatch, I haven't even fucking played it" affirm the questionable updates that have attempted to be put into the "v9 infograph" that contained wrong author information for Batman Doom, incorrect placement when including Brutal Doom, and further improper author mentions for Megaman 8 DM (something that continued to persist into it's wadsup entry).>>12097654>ok what the fuck is rekkr? I thought Romero only released Sigil 1 and 2 after Final DoomCorrect, he had no hand in making it. Rekkr is a viking-inspired Doom TC.
>>12097506What project did you personally make?
>>12097654>after Final DoomHe has nothing to do with Final.Also it's not the only wad he did after that.
>>12097679Not entirely true, Romero scouted out TNT Evilution and contacted them for the business offer.
>>12097687They weren't let it and now they're pissed.
>Map 23 (Abysmal Affliction) of Interception>That arena fight with barely any cover with enemies outside the "arena" as enemies teleport in the "arena" itself
You know you'd be banned for wrongthink if you criticized troons on doomworld. Thats why this is the true ground zero of retro FPS culture and trannyworld is shiteQuestion: what weapon is Doom Guy using on the cover? Is that the gun that Brutal Doom replaces the pistol with?
>>12097239I don't speedrun much and was going to use this as an excuse to try recording demos, but this is very irritating to "speedthrough". Might try it later but wow.
I've been gone a while, I do remember when I used to be really active there was a Megaman themed death match game and it seemed neat. Why is there all this strife over what seemed like a cool novelty at best?
>>12097654The Romero REKKR memeing is because Romero was really invested in his "never before done" feature in SIGIL of deathmatch areas within each single player map. REKKR had already done this before SIGILZ came out and Romero seethed about it on a podcast. It's a nothingburger really but does make fodder for memeing.
>>12097709It became skub. >>12066095 Kind of like how Brutal Doom wasn't added to the infograph because of the similar shitflinging it would cause. Now there's the wadsup site which serves a similar function: https://clovr.xyz/wadsup/ So, even the idea of the infograph is basically obsolete at this point, and instead serves as some fun historical footnote.
>>12097718I see. Crazy.
>>12097709>I do remember when I used to be really active there was a Megaman themed death match game and it seemed neat.Lmao.Moo... moo... MOO!
>>12097706you don't like the "moon" gravity? I thought it is fun to leap through that's why I chose the map.
>>12097723Huh?
>>12097723Mooger Moon 8oot boot doothmooch
>>12097725Moo.
>>12097730I don't get it. Did the creators of it do something bad? Who gives a fuck about some novelty megaman thing I just don't get it.
>>12097734Moo Moo
>>12097721Yeah, pretty nuts.>>12097724>you don't like the "moon" gravity?When I fuck things up it hurts real bad, taking several seconds to basically reset. I'll give it another go later.
>>12097734>>12097048
>>12097012I tried to play this Haloween Jam 2https://www.moddb.com/games/quake/addons/halloween-jam-2It says "Press I to activate intentory". I tried in vkquake, ironwail and qss-m but nothing happens. What do?
>>12097725Don't mind him, he'll hopefully dial it down a bit for the next thread (I mean, it's pretty funny, but still).Anyway, if you actually haven't been here for a while, but you wanna entertain the seasonal spirit a bit, check out: >>12096186
>>12097709tl;dr: there's a troll in this general, who's been here for something like 15 fucking years. He occasionally picks a game(s) to samefag, gaslight and flame against creatine the appearance of consensus against them. Previous targets include all non-doom games being discussed in this general, SRais and his stuff, some other mods I don't even remember that people mentioned and for the last couple of years it's new doom infographic versions including megaman - with notable mention of getting one guy to drop his douk project as well as making him give up on the completely new infographic he was working on from scratch. He's obsessed with trying to frame everybody who ever mentions megaman as "the megaman faggot", who according to his legend is the spammer as opposed to a bunch of people wanting to contribute to the general.Unfortunately he seems to be shielded by a mod or janny
>>12097295TrannyQuake lmao
>>12097718>Now there's the wadsup site which serves a similar function:Guy had his MM page prettified for him and he STILL not happy. What an ingrate, taking this board for utter fools.>>12097669>"I didn't make MM8 deathmatch, I haven't even fucking played it"Makes perfect sense if it was said by him
>>12097669And as always the shitter is back with his retarded theory of douk anon being cut man as well as "the megaman fag">>12097762>Makes perfect sense if it was said by himactually it makes zero sense, but of course you're samefagging under your own post.
>>12097764PAWNCH!Moo
>>12097754That would have been the button to show special keys in AD, which that is based on. They probably forgot to include the quake.rc file that actually sets custom keybinds. Try binding 'impulse 175'.
>>12096302Moo moo, moo moo moo?
>>12097769Yeah, you keep going with this, see if it leads you somewhere happy
>>12097771works, thanks!
>>12097321Do you have the link for the site that has separate pages for wads?I have a feeling the anti-doom faggot >>12097762shit up the megaman page which is why it's a bad idea to have such site to begin with. This faggot will just keep editing it from different vpns
>>12097781stop man
>>12097239>>12097724>I'll give it another go later.Well, I lied https://files.catbox.moe/krsh2g.zipMaybe I'll try to do better later instead, and maybe I was too harsh. LibreQuake's kind of weird but there's some things in it I like such as that shambler replacement.>>12097762>Guy had his MM page prettified for him and he STILL not happy.That deleted thread shows it's a bit more than that, and I'd imagine those "gotcha" posts that got deleted along with thread put an enteral chip in the shoulder.>>12097781>Do you have the link for the site that has separate pages for wads that's been linked in this thread for a few years?Yikes, questionable post credibility.
>>12097717>Romero seethed about it on a podcastGot a link to that?
>>12097797good run!I didn't know you could just jump to the entrance like that
>>12097717he should make a dm8 for quake all doom dm maps are the same and nobody cares
Mohrta is out.
>>12097853>MohrtaMedal of Honor Retard Tactical Alliance?
I love these skyboxes. Quake mods can have so much soul.>>12097853Nice. Honestly, retro throwback FPS are oversaturated now, but I liked the weird character designs in the trailer.
>>12097821Yeah, it was part of the pain when grabbing the quad and screwing it up repeatedly.I might not even need the super shotty if I have the quad, now that I think of it...
>>12097885wtf is this dwemer tech
>>12097885>playing with less than full UIdisgusting
I love the Widowmaker triple barrel shotgun in Arcane Dimensions. That is all.
>>12097898which is good first arcane dimension to play?
>>12097905I started with Hanger 16 but really Crucial is a solid first start.
>>12097905Crucial Error
I've just finished Quake 1.Blob enemies fucking fucking suck!Why do Fiends do so much damage?Overall I like Doom more, although Quake has a different balance - you have to keep on your toes pretty much all the time, because any enemy can fuck you up in close quarters (except those flying torsos). While in Doom you can just dance around most enemies.
>>12097895I like the classic HUD. I don't need all that other fancy shit.
>Graf resurfaced to push untested shit from ChatGPT into GzDoom>had a meltdown when called out on it, tried to tear some shit back out of the port while hiding the crap of people being pissed at him>tells them to fuck off and fork the port if they don't like what he's doing, (which some apparently are doing now, lol)Le No Chicken is back on his bullshit.https://github.com/ZDoom/gzdoom/issues/3395
>>12097913You're missing half the classic HUD.
>>12097909>Why do Fiends do so much damage?You're supposed to evade them.
>>12097898>AD's Widowmaker>Dwell's rotary gun>Tomb of Thunder's versatile Travail-like shotty>Travail's shotty>Malice Refined's crazy fireshotgun>original double barrelI've yet to find one I dislike, if I'm honest.>>12097905Starting with Crucial mirrors starting Q1 with the techbase.>>12097913I've been into the single bars lately as well as some scr_offsets.
>>12097914>untested shit from ChatGPTI'll give him the benefit of the doubt as much as he doesn't really deserve it. For WHAT did he need AI for?
>>12097916First I've heard of it. I find what I assume you think is the "full" HUD to be distracting and unnecessary anyway.
>>12097921What about the stuff from the official expansions?
>>12097928>What about the stuff from the official expansions?I'm referring to double shotgun replacements, and none of the official expansions add or change any besides Malice and I like Refined more (DoE's multi-explosives are cool, though). Heck, the official and newest expansions - Dimension of the Past, and of the Machine - don't use content from any expansion. They're purely vanilla.Oh shit, Episode Enyo also has a cool double shotgun replacement.
>>12097917Why put them right in front of doors so they can bite your face off when you open them? And I'm pretty sure one of them one-shot me from 150 health by landing on top of me. I felt like a Goomba in Super Mario.
>>12097926>ammo count>unneccessary
>>12097921>>Dwell's rotary gunI love this too. Shame about the rest of Dwell.>XD XD WE TOOK SERIOUS SAM MONSTERS AND PUT THEM IN QUAKE LOL>Also the final map of each episode is a giant fucking slog that lacks the charm of most giant maps!>We introduce the dangerous exploding enemy in a tight underwater space! NOTICE US AND GIVE US JOBS, DEVS!
>>12097923>For WHAT did he need AI for?Seems to be for coding that's beneath him to do by himself.
>>12097914The forkening is upon us, lads.Now the first thing they ought to do is kick Rachael off the team as well, fuck her and everything she stands for (and all of her co-conspirators too).Second thing they ought to do is make nearest filtering the default lmao.
IS HOT POTATO FUCKING READY OR WHAT
>>12097938But I do have an ammo count. Why are you so bent out of shape over the HUD I'm using anyway? It's not like I'm playing Doom and using one of those weird shiny visor mods.
>>12097938not him but ammo count is pretty unnecessary if you've played the game long enough. i've played doom without any hud at all for years now. if i'm unsure about health or ammo i just open the map screen for a split second.
>>12097936>one of them one-shot me from 150 healthThat's a quirk of Quake's damage system. With melee attacks, you get damaged as long as you're in contact with the enemy's 3D model, even if their animation hasn't properly started or ended it. For example, the knights with swords - they start to damage you as soon as they raise their swords, even if they're nowhere near your level, and the damage is continuous even if they only slash once. What happened with the Fiend that stomped you is that his attack normally pushes you back, but since he landed on top of you, you couldn't be pushed away and his model applied damage many times per second, insta-killing you.
>>12096991I made a bunch of my own, yeah, but I never posted a link to it. If Loss is okay with it, I will. I wanted to, anyway.
Are we being raided or something? We've got a lot of miserable faggots in today.
>>12097939>>XD XD WE TOOK SERIOUS SAM MONSTERS AND PUT THEM IN QUAKE LOLExplosive enemies are based. Even AD agrees. I'm not a fan of the rest of your post, either.
>>12097940Damn. Didn't think it was possible for my opinion of him to get even worse, but here we are.
>>12097914"crypto supporting fascist" i assume these trancoms are okay with a worldwide crackdown on diy hrt
>>12097914Reads like a satire
>>12097942>Now the first thing they ought to do is kick Rachael off the team as well, fuck her and everything she stands for (and all of her co-conspirators too).With any luck she'll just side with Le No Chicken like usual, and not get anywhere on any other port so she can't do another Skulltag.
>>12097954>I'm not a fan of the rest of your post, either.You say that about other anons posts constantly.
>>12097959God almighty, what is this
>>12097417Ok so apparently you need cl_nopext 1 to disable some protocol extensions incompatible with ironwailCommand to record on vkquake will be:>vkquake -game lq1 +set cl_nopext 1 +skill 2 +record vr_demo lq_e1m8
>>12097959It's so surreal seeing someone using "chud" as an insult unironically. But then I remember the absolute state of the community outside of here, which is even worse somehow.
>>12097959Ok I'm siding with Graf now.
>>12097959what in the manner of fuck
>>12097963El Ogro De Las GZDoom.
>Hear about the Map Center project that will soon releaseI'm not a member so I can't see their forums. What's the project about? What's the theme?
>>12097949>With melee attacks, you get damaged as long as you're in contact with the enemy's 3D modelThat's only true with the fiend and the spawn. Both of them do damage via a *touch* function that can potentially be called every frame that they remain in contact with you. The spawn at least has the condition that its velocity needs to be over 400 in order to damage you. The fiend can very much instakill you if its touch function isn't nullified by reaching a grounded state.Knights and other melee monsters simply do a limited distance traceline to their *enemy* entity followed by an application of damage if the trace is complete. In the case of the knight this is done for most of the frames in their melee animation, so it's possible to only take some of the potential damage depending on your movements.
>>12097969ok chud
>>12097959>Uses AI code>Sick fucks start leaving the GZDoom dev teamGraf redemption arc?
>>12097942No, the first thing they should do is make sure nobody in their community sexually harassers anybody else, cause that's pretty disgusting behavior that ruins people's lives.
>>12097975Retro Jam 4runic theme
>>12097939Yeah, I never got into Dwell. I tried it, but meh. The second episode is MUCH better than the first, but otherwise it's your average Slipseer experience of pretty maps with okay gameplay. Not that everything from that place sucks, Alkaline is as close to amazing as you can get with Quake mods these days.
>>12097959I'm team chicken
>>12097976That's pretty interesting. I still think getting goomba'd by a Fiend is unfair, but to each his own.
>>12097962>Text to Find "not a fan" through warosu for the Doom threadsThat only shows up twice. Regarding the kamikazes: They're great, and they were placed well in the underwater sections.
>>12097983I was semi-hoping for Halloween, but the Retro Jams are great and technically Quake is very Halloweeny anyway so hell yeah I'm excited.
>>12097987Is this reelism
>>12097942>The forkening is upon us, lads.based
>>12097997>Common sense>From DiscordHoly shit.
>>12097990Where did you even manage that? I don't think I've ever encountered one in a place with enough height difference for that to happen. I'd have to deliberately kite them.
>>12097759Good god
>>12097963A fence-sitting hypocrite?>>12097981That's something they should have done back when Term reached out to them, instead of telling him to fuck off all while encouraging me to keep acting that way.Because hey, anything goes to execute some personal petty vendetta against someone you don't like, even taking advantage of the mentally disabled.
>>12097971Dare you say, such post has caught you by the "ovaries"?
>>12097805YesAround 01:29:27https://www.devgameclub.com/blog/2019/11/14/dgc-ep-186-doom-bonus-interview-with-john-romero
>>12098001I think it was in Episode 2 or 3? There's one of those teleporters from a secret room that will deposit you back at the start of the level. If you didn't bother to clean the rooms above the entrance before getting that secret, there's a pretty good chance a fiend will jump on you right when you come out. It happened to me twice and I was pissed both times. So I went back and killed everything before getting the secret.
>>12098003Shoo shoo tranny
>>12097943Nope, we're at iteration 89 out of 99: >>12097117
>>12098001NTA, but on that bridge at the end of epi 3 right before you get the rune. Two Fiends will teleport in to pincer attack you, and most people probably just jump off the bridge by reaction. I managed to get stomped once in there.
>>12098002Now is not even the worst it's been. Some months ago literally just pointing out that that's what he's doing would get you wiped and banned.
>>12097939I liked the music and maybe Bal's level at least, they clearly wanted to go for an actual Lovecraft theme and I'm all for it, but the levels themselves aren't that good.>>12097985I think the problem with Slipseer (outside of Fairweather trying to run the place as some weird cult of personality) is they all seem to have some Magnum Opus syndrome thing where they have to make the next big thing and almost all of their projects are treated as candidates for it. Look at Map Center, they release tons of slightly themed jams and many of the levels are merely okay, but the only expectation for them is to be fun.
>>12098012Well I got a confession fellas, I'm Alf. I always contributed to the threads because I love them even though yes I did shitpost and troll a lot. I left for a while and I'm back now. I've dropped the bit (still hate Half-Life and love ROTT, simple as) but I always tried to make my shitposting funny. I know I annoyed you guys but this guy now... what the fuck? Its not even funny, its just shitposting spam.
Is it possible to climb DOWN the ladder in quake?
>>12097959>I've caught windI'd like to imagine that Graf had blown a huge fart while reading this
>>12098019>quake>ladderhuh?
>>12097921>>12097954How is Vulkan Quake anyway? I've only ever used Quakespasm and later Ironwail.
>>12098019No, because QuakeC can't read the 'swimdown' input. In theory modders could make going down based on whether you are looking down enough, but I guess some people might find that annoying.>>12098026It doesn't have as many features as Ironwail, but it runs better for some people. Definitely works better for multiplayer for some reason.
>>12098018>he's trying to frame yet another person for his permanent samefaggingAt least you admit you got worse
>>12098026VkQuake's been better lately. It got initially abandoned awhile back but then picked up by another dev. I used to have that issue with stuttering hitscan attacks on large AD maps but that's been taken care of.
>>12097943Everybody's afraid doing anything to itSo go play it and then stick something in it
>>12098048like muh dick? lol
>>12098051Well sureSome rooms are pretty bland, need some wall graffiti
>>12098051>muh dick>"Thanks nigge-">explosion.mp3
>>12098051I would but I cant design levels, I cant even code
>>12098003That's a deeply impressive job you've done there with diverting the blame onto people who bailed on defending you when it became clear they were going to go down fighting for a lost cause.
>>12097959Man the replies to this are a good reminder why nobody from here actually associates with this place.
>>12098071They never planned on defending me, they were just going to force a false confession out of me, paint me as clinically insane, and then take credit for "rehabilitating" me.You have no idea how much they all lie, how deep their lies go.
>>12098037Its really not me. Its lame too.
>>12097914I don't care if he did use AI.>>12097940Graf is right, again.
>>12098076Are you the tranny in that screenshot? I have no idea what's going on here by the way.
>>12098081definitely is. just report every instance of his faggotry, hide and never reply.since it's likely nothing will be done, screenshot his spam like some anon(s) has been doing
>>12097940its pretty dumb to rely on ai gen code the dude didnt even read but its also weird that nerds are treating this like a life and death thing, just fork
>>12098083Nah, Marisa's the one in this, and the one who harassed Term into quitting the community.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h5YrdarJ_7U
>>12098090>just forkOr just talk it out like a normal human being. The absolute hysterics of all this is absurd. I'd rather work with a robot too.
>>12096134gzdoom is killhttps://github.com/ZDoom/gzdoom/issues/3395
>>12098097>They started calling him Le No Chicken in the thereBeautiful.
Oh man, this is going to make playing mods a headache, isn't it? I already have a bunch of GZDoom versions because good old mods get outdated by new updates, but newer mods need the newer versions.
>>12097906>>12097908>>12097921Cool level, I like when lots of explosive things
>>12098092Please don't single me out like that. I'm partly to blame for having been a stupid-ass stan, but:1. I didn't know that what I was doing was wrong, never got the hint that he wasn't comfortable with random compliments/flirting (back then this was something I did to literally anyone I liked, because that's how I had grown up online).2. I felt like absolute fucking shit when I learned the truth, I tried to reach out to him to apologize (and he accepted my apology) even if it was already too late for that. I HAD to apologize. For the longest time, since first hearing that he had left, I did not know I had been a factor in it.3. Rachael and friends only got a slap on the wrist for their involvement in this whole shitshow. Like, they got to throw me under the bus, go all "the evil has been defeated!" and then merrily continue as usual with their business as if they did no evil or were "misguided" or whatever else.
>>12098105>He didn't find the boardsSomething to try next time, it gets you one of the runes and it's a fun little secret hunt.
>>12098109Your honor, have you considered that my client felt really bad when he found out he was in trouble?
We're sure the Marisa ITT is just some faggot impersonating the real Marisa, who rightfully fucked off from here after taking the ZDoom Forums down with him, right?
>>12098094Who's the normal human being? Enginedevs aren't exactly rational or well adjusted.
>>12098104Short term it'll probably be fine, long term where features and shit start drifting apart is where it may be a pain since at least one fork looks to be continuing on from VkDoom but with blackjack and hookers.
>>12098071Nigga you are talking to some nigga larping as a famous pdf file, it’s not even the person you think you are talking to>>12098076https://youtu.be/YgHNtzxO0y8
>>12098116I get it, anon, yeah, empathy is for fags. But you know I'm still a scapegoat, right?
>>12098123Haven't seen actual hard evidence it's trolling, plus that *is* a secure tripcode. I only ever use /VR/ and for around a year, so I have zero experience on other boards in spite of said marisafag occasionally bringing up /TG/.Best thing to do would be ignoring any and all namefags unless they're project leads or working on a map or something, based on personal experience.
>>12098123Fucker's started showing back up arguing in Youtube comments and on Twitch and shit with the correct accounts, even getting into fights with the KF mappers on their moddb page, so on balance it's probably legit that we've been inflicted with yet another of the old fuckups returning this year.
>>12098147That HUD is a bit much, isn't it?
>>12098132Bro, don't worry, everyone interested knows about whole cabal and that you were just the tip of the iceberg.That doesn't magically absolve you from shit you've done though. Also don't tripfag on anonymous forums, like an attention whore if you don't want to get shat on.
>>12098168Yeah ok I'll stop.And yeah, I know. Not trying to excuse anything or expect forgiveness, especially not here, but I still gotta get it off my chest.
>>12098132YWNBAWKWAB
>>12098203>The hero /doom/ deservesThat's not Peanut.
>>12098005Yeah, kinda sounds like a dickhead
>>12098203>"Most Americans aren't really familiar with it but the Sinclair ZX Spectrum is probably the most underrated microcomputer in history. What is lacked in raw power and graphics it more than made up for in heart and soul. Plus if one was a good enough programmer, you could get performance equal to or better than not only Commodore 64 but also the NES, despite graphical limitations. This opened the foot for some truly special gameplay and unique titles. John Romero used to program on a Spectrum as a kid when his father waa stationed in England and I am told Tim Sweeney somehow got his hands on one as a kid as well."-John Carmack, interview 1996Could he have done Doom on the Speccy? He is a code wizard after all.
>>12098219Didnt mean to quote that post btw
>>12098219There was a port but it was an unofficial one on a scratch done engine, so obviously nobody at Nightdive touched it.
>>12098203Lifeless eyes, black eyes... like a doll's eyes...
You guys are getting gay and gossipy again. Quit suckin wieners and start talkin Doom, or Duke, or Blood.
>>12098203it's honestly kind of a cool hat. but it would only look cool on me.
Are these guys invincible when they have "force field" around them?
>>12098161it's got chaos emeralds
>>12098240if u so wise then tell me why do some yelling ghosts in blood seemingly take DOZENS of rockets while others are killed very quickly (yes I am only shooting when they are "visible")
>>12098243Yes.
>>12098243At least to most weapons. They have a hard time preventing explosive damage.
>>12098247You should shoot them in the face with your shotgun.
>>12098253thats risky and shotgun is not always with ammo
>>12098258You can't be a coward playing Blood. Shoot them in the face.
>>12098219>Could he have done Doom on the Speccy? He is a code wizard after all.Maybe. There are FPS techdemos on Speccy.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bMjshJEz4DM
>>12098258The tommygun altfire is another alternative, it should be a few volleys after baiting them to go “corporeal”. Since enemy health scales on skill setting, I have to ask what difficulty are you playing on?
>>12098268>The tommygun altfiredoes it do extra dmg or something? looks like he just sprays it randomlyI'm on well broiled or whatever the UV one is
>>12096932
>>12098271Yeah actually, the altfire does more damage while he swings the tommygun around. It doesn't make a lot of sense though, but just roll with it.
>>12098219>Plus if one was a good enough programmer, you could get performance equal to or better than not only Commodore 64 but also the NES, despite graphical limitationsI call bullshit.
>>12098241Its supposed to be some brain shocking torture device he wears in his space prison where they force him to play and review retro FPS gamesBecause reviewing old games required gay ass storylines ala Nostalgia Critic and Spoony
>>12097940>so I have seen both the good and the bad of themDoes this retarded chicken-brained chicken retard can't comprehend that this is exactly why everyone who work in tech hates AI so much? Because you fucking never fucking know if it gives you the proper fucking answer or just straight up fucking lying through its fucking teeth, and there's no fucking way to tell is it a proper code or not this time, and you have to double check all this gibberish pajeet-tier incomprehensible AI code every fucking single fucking time till the last bits of your fucking sanity fly out of the damn window, and there still will be bugs that will bite you in your fucking gay ass down the line, and you will curse every fucking thing but it will be to late and once again your sanity is ogre. At this point I'm 99% certain that just breaking all the developers is why ((they)) force you to use this half-assed shit.
>>12098001In Palace of Hate (Episode 4), there are several Fiends that can spawn either on bridges over you or even right over you (right before the rocket launcher).
>>12098127>pdf fileThis ain't twitter, faggot. You can say pedophile here.
>>12098232>it was an unofficial one on a scratch done engine, so obviously nobody at Nightdive touched it.
>>12098219>This opened the foot
>>12098341I think it was supposed to be door
>>12097914That makes me hope that there would be more meltdowns like this across all adjacent retro FPS communities. This shit needs a fucking cleansing.>>12097940Why he sounds like that Nightdive dev? lol>>12097997I'll check out Disdain demo because of this.>>12098203>deservesRude>>12098232lmao
>>12097959>I'm just really glad the chicken is on the chopping block. I have high hopes for GZDoom or whatever fork is coming.uWu
map
>>12098383terrifying picrews
>>12098383Anon. Coders and artists are not normal people. You don't want normal people involved with this shit.
>>12097959Holy fuck
Got em
>>12098203he should review fore/vr/ alone
>>12098125Fair point.
>>12098407I never said that. You are obsessed and very dumb.
>>12098403He said /vr/ (/doom/) are the worst people on earth in one of his videos so I doubt he will.
>>12098398too bad VkDoom's not actively being worked on, but at least that git thread is amusing
>>12098424People are tard raging in there, virtually no one on Grafs side.
>>12098384based eureka user
Seems like this is going to be the one getting the big focus on for now, they already changed the texture filtering defaults, lol.https://github.com/DZDoom/DZDoom
>>12097969that's because chud was a term used by breadtubers and lefties because they were jealous that "cee you cee kay" was used by rightwingers>>12098376>Why he sounds like that Nightdive dev? loli wonder if he'd ever want to work with them>>12097959it's amazing how stereotypical this isyou don't talk like this without being too online>>12097997finally>>12098019why cant climbing in fps be like this?>press "e" on ladders>you're in a state where you have basic inputs to go up or down>press "e" again to leave laddersthe whole faking swimming logic is so fucking awkwardit's weird because i saw a quake mod with a pushing block being transparent when it was being pushed and that felt like a way to justify a mechanic like that in an fps game
>>12097117>>12096134HOTPOTATO90.WAD: https://files.catbox.moe/88x2t1.WADTurned the super shotgun into a quad shotgun complete with new firing sound and fixed muzzle flash animation (feel free to add new reload sounds later down the line.I also extended the platform at the beginning of the second map to allow all four players to stand on it and extended out the exit trigger in the same map (I accidentally bypassed it while playtesting).We're in the home stretch.
>never think about why it's called gzdoom, whatever, it's just another funky source port name>now people might just sink it because of graf's bullshit as the Graf Zahl Doom port
>>12098437>i wonder if he'd ever want to work with themBeing that he's behind Raze and they wouldn't touch his shit, probably not, his ego will be sore.
>>12098416which episode?
>>12098437I'm so used to Minecraft controls I wish all games were like thisSpace go upShift go downThough games are usually ok, best contenders in most retarded controls ever are usually 3d editors or 3d game library demos.
>>12098449Shadow Warrior I think?
>>12098447I always assumed it took the G from opengl and shoved it onto the front of zdoom.
>>12098449>>12098453Second episode of Shadow Warrior if I remember correctly
>>12094085adding #library "SPAWNSCRIPT" (or even a reference to a nonexistent file) fixed it
>>12098396This faggot got bored with shit posting against megaman so now he's doing this fucking shit. Note that the thread doesn't even have updated link in the OP. He wants you to associate his shit posting with things that make him seethe, but in reality he will shit post regardless.
>>12098487Don't have a cow, anon.
>>12098494Yeah there's a lot going on right now to keep MM8 stuff living rent free.I will follow the wisdom of >>12098240 and based Peanut and will likely play some Quake or Blood later.
>>12098000Nash always seemed aight to me tbqhfam. >I'll check out Disdain demo because of this.It's fun. A little flat maybe, but it's pretty old at this point and he's done a bunch of work since then.
>>12098506ok this one gets a pass
>>12098506hail to the moo, baby
>>12098506Thanks Duke Mookem.
>>12098247Explosion immunity, use shotgun or tommy gun alt fire for that higher DPS.
>>12096186Progress slowly going. Entrance section is mostly finished.t.guywithteacup
>>12098487Dude, it's a reference to someone who used to post here: >>12097048
How the fuck do you pistol start in Doom 2? None of the levels have any weapons.
>>12096134>>12098446HOTPOTATO90.WAD: https://files.catbox.moe/776qut.zipNew link because I'm a dumbass and accidentally sent the wad file instead of the zip file.
>>12098539Glad someone finally said it.
>>12098527iirc all levels in DOOM/DOOM 2 were designed as if you had pistol started. it can be significantly harder pistol starting for certain maps i will say
>>12097914>Feel free to fork the project under awhat did he mean by this? did he bonce ronce the cornew?
>>12098416This person must be living an unfathomably privileged life if WE are the worst people he can possibly imagine.
>>12098554He's surrounded by sycophantic fans begging him to say the lines, so anybody not sucking up to him is automatically terrible.
>>12098527>>12098539>When Sandy Petersen was asked about the things he found disappointing in Doom, he said he felt the episodes were too easy because id designers did not properly take account the player's ability to carry ordnance from earlier levels. The gameplay testing was based mainly on pistol starts, separately for each level. According to Sandy Petersen, "Most people started levels with some kind of significant equipment. However, almost all our playtesting was done starting each level with just a pistol. We made the game too easy for the average player."
>>12098553Haven't heard that one in years.
>>12098559I mean he's not wrong, especially back then people weren't obsessively pistol starting as the one true way to play just because it's how maps were designed to be tested. Not that Doom 2 fared a lot better with giving the SSG way too fucking early.
>>12098575>easily found SSG in map02>secret rocket launcher in map01, easily found launcher in map03>start tripping over BFGs pickups starting with map08Doom 2 in general has a "strong weapon too soon" problem.
>>12098558he said that before he blew up iircit was just hyperbole. dudes probably here now.
>>12098580The build engine experience. This is how my maps looked like when I was in early days of learning mapster
>>12098590I have a feeling he lurks just based on the way he's said some things and the timing with what's been on here. Could be wrong but I'm probably not. He'd never admit it though.
>>12098571You've already been pegged as having cried about your pet hyperfixation not being in the OP for nearly ten years. Why are you surprised that you're unliked?
>>12098132Interpreting it charitably that it's really you...You being a prop and scapegoat for ZDF staff and their scheming actually ISN'T relevant to the various different ways that you yourself are an abhorrent and revolting fucking person, just by your own qualities and actions. You speak of empathy, but what fucking empathy do YOU have for others?The more I learned about you after you vanished, the more I was disturbed, and the more that I though back to the interactions WE had, now viewed through the lens of knowing what kind of person you actually are, the more dirty and uncomfortable I feel.Things I didn't think much of at the time, but now understand were actually something sinister and ugly, things I can't ever quite scrub away from my soul, things which still make me shiver just a little bit whenever I recall them.It would certainly be no wonder that you would come back here, parading around with a tripcode and all, after all it seems that you've convinced yourself that it wasn't that bad actually, and hey, it was kind of Rachael's fault anyway, right? You were just a patsy!Oh, and Term accepted your apology, as if he's the only one who's ever had the misfortune of enduring your sleazy grace, this fixes everything, you're redeemed now! EVERYTHING IS OK NOW!Well, I'M never going to accept an apology from YOU. As far as I'm concerned, you belong in the exact same circle of hell as Rachael does.
>>12098637Damn this dude mad af
>>12098203Wouldn't dare be
>>12098641You would be too if you knew what I knew, and experienced what I experienced.
>>12097853>>12096134
>>12098659Based Strife chad saving the thread
>>12098637>Things I didn't think much of at the time, but now understand were actually something sinister and ugly, things I can't ever quite scrub away from my soul, things which still make me shiver just a little bit whenever I recall them.The parading around feeling bad for Term while being the one fucking doing it to him is pure that shit, makes my fucking skin crawl.>and Term accepted your apologyOnly cause he's a genuinely nice dude even after all that, it's fucking awful hearing the hurt behind it when he's talked about the dangers of letting people get too close and comfortable with you, that shit's never heals.>you're redeemed now! EVERYTHING IS OK NOW!It's the classic "I forgave myself and moved on" shit, anybody with any sense of guilt or shame wouldn't try to re-enter the same communities, at least not under the same fucking names.
>>12096302Moo moo moo moo moo moo moo moo moo moo moo moo . . . . .I wonder what cyberdemon meat tastes like. A gamier buffalo, mayhaps?Man, I could really go for a good philly cheese steak right now. I miss the Tony Luke's in King of Prussia Mall.
>>12098674It's already gonna be the center of the wordcloud, can you tone it down a LITTLE bit?I'd legit rather want you to make a Sub Mortem level with cow sector art, where you blast a Cyberdemon with 30 rockets. That's a serious suggestion by the way, I think that would be funny.
that tape self destructed in one second
>>12098678Moo~
>>12097590>https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/levels/doom2/s-u/theWere you watching Time of Death playing IDGames too?
Heh. Moo.
>>12098097I assumed you were joking or exaggerating but fuckin lol, the team is PISSED. Graf is such a retard that it's shocking.
>>12098652Tell us about it
Kurashiki-san whines too much on twitter, not enough doom, too much genshin and for honor with that toon she uses.
>>12098676this map was made by Randy Pitchford
>>12098712i thought i smelled cabbage.
>>12098548>>12098559unless all the playtesters were speedrunning autismo tier players theres no way the sequel was designed around pistol starting
Not AS much done today. Oh well.>>12098721All of the levels for Doom and Doom 2 were designed around pistol starting because it was carried over from Wolfenstein 3D (where you had lives), and also because it made things a million times faster and easier to make the levels if they were all balanced around it being possible to beat them from pistol start if necessary, even if it would be harder.That also made the game easier overall, but that's kind of acceptable considering that the first game was very much a big time gateway drug for first person shooters, and this would be made up for by Thy Flesh Consumed and Plutonia.Naturally, the game is also designed very deliberately around continuous play, otherwise you simply wouldn't get to carry shit over between levels, and they wouldn't sometimes give you stuff which is simply not very necessary for the level in question (like the secret rocket launcher in Entryway).
Moo, I say! Also I really like the idea of the Pain Elemental bullying the Caco because it doesn't have arms.
>>12098559"designed to be fun on pistol start" and "designed to be beatable on pistol start in case you last saved 7 levels ago" are two different things. only plutonia was the former, uv pistol doom and doom 2 is mindnumbingly tedious without going for each and every secret
>>12098435I'll make a logo!
>We had completed the Cyberdemon and Spider Mastermind for the final bosses of the other two episodes. And which was which was up to me. So here I feel I made an understandable error. You see, all of the levels had to be completable starting with only a pistol and 50 rounds of ammo; because that's what you restart with if you are killed. So I played EVERY level starting with just a pistol and 50 rounds of ammo. For some reason it never occurred to me that 100% of players would be saving and loading games, and they'd be going into the final battles with chainsaws, rocket launchers, and piles of ammunition. >https://x.com/SandyofCthulhu/status/1965122641704128516>https://nitter.net/SandyofCthulhu/status/1965122641704128516
>>12098742meant for >>12098721
>>12098691No idea who that is, I rolled it one time with the random thing and it stuck in my head.
>>12098742>So I played EVERY level starting with just a pistol and 50 rounds of ammoDidn't he know all the secrets?
>>12098736looks dope, keen to play it
>>12098712His levels are legitimately decent. I can say a lot of shit about him, but he was certainly not a bad level designer. For DN3D at least.
>>12098740Make it fly with pride colors sis *thumbsup*
>>12098770True, also worked on Shadow Warrior maps. How the fuck did he get to where he's at now?
>>12098774The deal with Valve back when Valve were just starting to get big hyper-inflated his ego.
>>12098738it has to be noted that, in the setup program, you could warp to any level if you couldn't save at all
>>12098774>>12098780Wasn't he caught with a flash drive full of cp?
>>12098203a leftard blm loving cuck that hates his own race?
>>12098785No.
>>12098785Allegedly he lost a flash drive full of porn at some renaissance event, dunno about if it was illegals or not.
>>12098791>>12098797>Pitchford clarified that the pornographic film on the USB drive was not child pornography and stated that he had saved the pornography for the purposes of studying a sexual act performed by the female actress that he claimed to be similar to a "magic trick"
>>12098097At the very least it seems like he pissed off the dev team so thoroughly that the fork will keep on being developed like nothing happenedThough I bet it will be pretty much be impossible to discuss here without people complaining it's woke or some shit
>>12098809It does at least look like he got nearly the entire team to leave him, so that's a bonus.Also the ChatGPT code that killed it was a fucking dark mode for the built in launcher that nobody with any sense uses.
>>12098376>That makes me hope that there would be more meltdowns like this across all adjacent retro FPS communities. This shit needs a fucking cleansing.Influx of AI-generated doom content, when?
>>12098823There's already been a load, thankfully it got shat on every time, even the anon who was trying to get people into his ideas for it here got told to fuck right off.
>>12098535Is catbox down? it's not letting me download the file
>>12098830Well you have to make it indistinguishable, a bit tricky approach.
>>12098823I'm surprised no one has trained an AI on the plethora of doom maps out there.I'd be willing to bet if you stuck to vanilla or limit removing only you could probably keep it consistent enough to get something pretty usable.Is that good? Probably not. AI has uses imo, but generating stuff whole-sale usually turns out pretty shit.
what's funny is that, from what i hear from people who are more familiar with (G)ZDoom development than I am, the fucking ChatGPT code is actually better than a lot of the pull requests in GZDoom's history, because at least it actually compiles
>>12098850Doom's had procgen maps for decades, AI shit isn't going to magically do better or understand how to properly map just because it's seen a ton of them.
>>12098862The AI generated code literally failed to compile>>12097940
So what, is Graf going to be the only one working on GZDoom now that everyone else fucked off to the fork?
>>12098843Looks like it is.
>>12098894He'll probably still have Rachael to preside over shit mountain with him.
>>12098876>AI shit isn't going to magically do better or understand how to properly map just because it's seen a ton of them.Yes it can. That's the entire point of language models is to simulate an understanding.
>>12098912Rachael's the one leading the split last i checkedso whoever wins, we lose
>>12098435they settled for UZDoom, as in "The Ultimate ZDoom"https://github.com/UZDoom/UZDoom/commit/4103aebeeb707fd7293a1677ace58bfb813259e5
Why don’t people just kick this nigga grapf off the project if they disagree with him so much. It’s happened to other people like that mikez and that other Arab guy from skullgirls but then again the game kinda died without their involvement so
>>12098924He's the one in charge and probably wouldn't ever be convinced to shift, also there's the spiteful fun of doing exactly what he told them to do of forking it.
>>12098862Yes. People blame Graf for a lot of shit, and some of it is legit, but Rachael has broken far more things than he has.>>12098915Oh, of fucking course, the actual narcissist psychopath.
>>12096130So rip gzdoom I suppose Also whoever uses the term chud unironically needs to have their hard drives checked
>>12098937the scuttlebutt i've heard has it that the AI stuff is mostly just an excuse to finally oust him because they're pissed over him NO-ing yet another broken/pointless feature (this time the tooltip thing that he reverted from master, which was incomplete and didn't work yet, was huge and distracting, and there weren't even any tooltips included so it was just blank)
>>12098947Forgot to mention started alien vendetta(with the midi pack)and having a great time so far
>>12098973Yeah, that sounds like something I'd expect Rachael to do, and this being a pattern with him is why I think he should have an embolism.
>>12098435lol was the default texture filtering setting purely a Graf thing? I assumed the other devs were in on it as well
>>12098947UZDoom has yet to be proven. What has Graf said about all this? Last thing I saw was him going "fuckin fork it then, I j dare u. pussy ass bitches"
>>12099000literally (and I do mean literally) every internet community has this kind of dumbass drama and it all feels exactly the same
probably a stupid question but is there a way to set visual markers in UDB? e.g. being able to outline a 2048x2048 box for Sub Mortem without using linedefs
Finished strife. It was okay. More fun in the first half than the second. The level design started to get confusing and finding some of the npcs got annoying. Also fighting the bosses it seemed like after you beat them you could easily miss one of those sigil pieces if you didn't save before fighting one. I also didn't find all the weapons besides one but it seemed like most of them were useless outside of the machine gun the rocket launcher and the sigil.While it was a fun and creative use of the doom engine. Id probably never play it again. Towards the end i just wanted it to be over and almost didn't finish it
>>12099000I would have been perfectly happy not to, even with the current event, but I also hate most of these insane assholes, mind.
>>12099003It was known for ages that Graf either personally liked it or felt it was modern and expected, I'm not sure if he just [No]'d it every time somebody tried to change it or if people just assumed he would and never tried.
>>12099010I'm pretty sure you can import an image, but there's no whiteboard feature that I'm aware of.
>>12099018He said that he considered making the filtering off by default, but by that point it has become a meme, and kind of a trademark of the engine.Paraphrasing, I don't remember the actual quote.
>>12098435>>12098916Can they also give Cacos and the Hell Nobles their correct blood colors so I don't have to every time I update?
DOOM 3 counts as retro right? I'm playing through the Phobos mod at the moment on ultraviolence and I'm finding it brutally difficult, was the original this hard, or did they increase the difficulty in the mod?Also, you can buy Doom 3 on Steam to play Phobos, refund it, and still play Phobos. Easier for me than finding my original CD.
what did he mean by this
>>12099059That'd be doable with like a really simple Decorate patch which should work stretching back at least 15 years worth of versions. And probably also a really simple ZScript patch with a bit more end user flexibility.
>>12099000See you tomorrow.
>>12099073Candlejack got him, you need to be careful about that guy because he'll just show up and
>>12099080He never said he was leaving though. He just said modding is for fags. Hell he may still even play mods.
>>12099086So anon was the fag all along?
>>12099086>modding is for fags. Hell he may still even play mods.figures
>>12099086>He just said modding is for fags. Hell he may still even play mods.Maybe he feels more welcome now he knows modding is right for him.
>tfw lived long enough to see gzdoom die in your lifetime
>>12099116It's not dying, it's just mutating into UZDoom.I hope you guys are thinking this is going to change anything, everyone else is still present, hell Graf may still provide some bullshit to this project moving forward.
>>12099121>hell Graf may still provide some bullshit to this project moving forward.That may be a source of entertainment if you think back to the shitstorm with him copying stuff from Eternity, he may well just decide to backport any improvements from UzDoom into GzDoom.
>>12099116What a perfect chance to revisit Lilith just in time for the Halloween season.
>>12099121There is a non-zero chance that GzDoom limps along under Graf alone, but somehow still better than this UZDoom.
>>12099129Plenty of people are even revisiting the video on it, it's great fun.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VnjLZow4zK0
Between Graf and trannies, I'm siding with Graf.Between AI and trannies, I'm siding with AI.
>>12099086>like playing the actual games>like talking about the actual games>just happen to think that men in dresses making mods with transexual easter eggs and then discussing said mods online while fomenting massive amounts of negative social discourse is incredibly gay and retardedOh well...
why is he known as the le no chicken?
>>12099184He doesn't like saying "yes".
>>12099189yes but what earned him this title in particular?
>>12099184He's a big chicken.
>>12099148you should consider siding with putting a gun in your mouth and pulling the trigger
>>12099196he tends to shoot down suggested features and reject stuff people try to addsometimes it's just him being retarded, sometimes it's for good reason (because the feature is pointless, wouldn't work right, etc)
>>12099205>guy who's been programming since 1984>shoots down most peoples' ideas>isn't a retarded trannyI can only call him based.
>>12099238Graf get off 4chan.
>>12099196His avatar is a chicken from some German shovelware series, he's abrasive as fuck and likes to shoot down submissions and stuff by going [NO], he's made a habit of having some kind of outburst every handful of years and the video here >>12099137 on one such outburst called him it and it stuck.
>>12099254I can't even crack my knuckles anymore.
>>12099238>programming since 1984
>>12099257You didn't know? Graf's like fucking 50 dude.
>>12099243Maybe he's trying to see what people are saying about him, since his own forum has a shitload of guest viewers but nobody's posting.
>>12099261What happened on March 16?
>>12099267Gmota got an update but it's probably not that.
>>12099279Yeah I didn't even post that shit on the forums.
>>12098379I'm literally more of a man now than you will ever be in your entire life, subhuman.
moo
>>12099302I'm a man and a half! Berserker packin' man and a half! There's nothing wrong with you that I can't fix... with my hands! DYNAMITE!
>>12097959>>12097963>makes trannies piss and shid themselves by simply existingchicken sama, i-i kneel...
>>12098915I'm big mad that the Doom community bricked the retarded shotacon who harassed a guy and sexted a kid, but let the person slide who succored all that for the benefit of having a popular tranny auteur in her sphere of influence.Because replacing the webmaster was a bridge too far.Actual spineless cuckolds.
Jesus Christ, no wonder barely anyone comes here to make shit anymore.
>>12099364Do ya want to make something, Anon?
>>12099346>I'm a moo and a half
>>12099364anon-kun, we have multiple projects ongoing right now
I love how Graf was tolerated for his bullshit for years but AI was the step too far for 'the doom community' Not the numerous annoyances GZDoom has dealt and had over the years.
>>12099391I think this time a big part of it was him more or less saying he was going to use more AI shit moving forwards because countries don't dare cross the tech companies running that shit.Every other time he had to walk shit back he at least tried to look like it wasn't going to happen all the fuck over again.
>>12099391It's all performative, of course.AI for-or-against is today's moral trend. No one wants to die on the hill of a nothingburger like "he is an asshole who griefed other devs basically for fun", not when he provides such an important service.
>>12099391I'm still baffled he wasn't kicked out for the lilith situation. Anyone else would have been banned in a heartbeat.
>>12099391I get the feeling that it's more about his "My Way or the Highway" attitude. They got mad at him for pushing directly instead of doing a pull request and/or consulting anyone else on the project as well as not properly mentioning large changes in those commits.When instead of addressing any of those issues he said >Feel free to fork the project under aand promptly closed the issue, it was basically the straw that broke the camel's back. AI is something that they're mad over, sure, but it was simply a small part of the shitstorm that had been brewing for a long time.
>>12099391From what I can tell, theres concern that AI code might not actually be GPL compatible. So its not just a moral issue in this case.
>>12099420I should have added "griefed other devs and his own users".I've been in a fair few communities and seen some head-spinning modder drama, but I'd never seen a project lead call someone using his project a loser and their release retarded in front of their face.
>>12099420I think the only person in the position to do that was Rachael, who was hassling Anotak as well as set Graf up to lose his shit as to have an excuse to come down harder on people for "antagonizing" him.>>12099435>but I'd never seen a project lead call someone using his project a loser and their release retarded in front of their face.Especially for an "issue" that was plain to anybody else was an incredibly specific thing that was never likely to come up in any other mod.
>>12097942>>12099404>>12097959at this point i feel like it's an arthmoor and the unofficial patch situation where people are tired of his bullshit and are swearing up an down that they'll find/make alternatives but nobody actually wants to pick up the slack because it's too much work.
>>12099453The slack has been picked up by themselves, the team who had spent the last year updating the port without his interference have forked it and kept going without him.
>>12099460what's the name?
>>12099472Boku no pico.UZDoom.
If one commit with AI sloppa is enough to finally bring down Chicken Man I'm gonna sing high praises of ChatGPT and OpenAI from now on
I don't care that he uses AI code. You're a luddite if you don't understand everyone is going to be doing that. What matters is if the code works.
>>12099531>What matters is if the code works.That's the best part: it didn't.
>>12099531whatever you say, Graf.
>>12099532Yes, that was his failing. The focus on the fact that it was AI code is the focus of morons.
>>12099531>ludditeaifags desperately need new material
>>12099546Too bad they can only use a regurgitated collage of what already existed.
>>12099431It seems pretty clear that the GPL compatibility issue is an excuse and not a real reason anyone is upset
>>12099453>nobody actually wants to pick up the slack because it's too much workLot of them overestimate the importance of firmware.Arthmoor is a professional failure who lives on the dole, which makes him unbeatable at what he does. No normie will make it in this position for that long. They lack the purity of drive that only a fucking loser can possess.Graf might have an actual job, but he's also worked on a Doom port for 20 years. Where will this impassioned fork be as soon as the flavor of the month changes from AI to something else?>>12099562Can't remember the last time anyone used Doom licensing as anything other than a bludgeoning weapon.
>>12099565>Where will this impassioned fork be as soon as the flavor of the month changes from AI to something else?Still working on the port the way they've been working on it for years, these aren't new people who showed up to do a fork, they've been the ones holding GzDoom's development together.All they've done is walk out on Graf.
>>12099565>but he's also worked on a Doom port for 20 years.He'd done shit all for the last year before he showed back up with something he'd knocked out using ChatGPT.
>>12097997Are these retards gonna fix texture filtering not being set by custom defaults then?
>GZDoom founder gets ousted in a dramatic coup>The new team imposes strict vanilla compatibility>Attempting to jump crashes your computer
>>12099584Vanilla Strife and Hexen have jumping.
>>12099574Yes
>>12099574Already did
>>12099613>>12099595Retards, that's not what I'm talking about. If you set a different setting for texture filtering through DEFCVARs then it will completely ignore that setting for the first time launch and only apply it the second time you launch. Not even using launch parameters fixes this bullcrap.
This transgenderist faggot really is trying to worm his way in back... It might've been actually been the real Marisa posting here before.
>>12099614Write an issue then.
How come MBF21 doesn't have key-locked teleport switches
>>12099562Sure, the morality of ai is maybe the primary reason, but GPL compliance is still a thing to keep an eye on.
>haven't mapped in a while>switch isn't working>spend like 20+ minutes trying to figure out what the hell is wrong>constantly resizing it, moving objects around it out of the way, flipping it forwards and back, checking if anything needs to be toggled, looking online for answers>suddenly dawns that it's actually just Woof binding Use to Space by default, not Eaaaaaaaaa
>>12099668I have it bound to both Space and F, myself.
>>12098454That's pretty much what it was.GLZDoom but without the L.
>>12099719Unload 30+ poo in a loo or two to be more exact, lmao
>>12096324
>>12098742>no Romero in the comments to correct himguess it's legit
>>12097323VOTE FOR ROMERO
Bastard bitch.... You better PLAY MY WAD NOW!!!
I have two personas:>>12098074deeply delicate ball of fur, please don't huwt me :'((( let us be fwiends :)>>12099204savage bunny murderer, rawr XD (i'll laugh seeing your corpse on the news)
>>12099845The beast is demonic in nature.
>>12098437>i wonder if he'd ever want to work with themHe would certainly fit right in.>>12098504>It's fun. A little flat maybe, but it's pretty old at this point and he's done a bunch of work since then.It looked fairly interesting before, but that shitshow is most encouraging for sure.>>12098559He's right.>>12098607>I have a feeling he lurks just based on the way he's said some things and the timing with what's been on here.Example?>>12098637Beautiful words.>>12098823Like >>12098830 said, there was some and that shit gets shut down quick. But I'm certain that there will be something bigger than this GZDoom thing.>>12099357There's not much reason to be mad about it. Better to enjoy the show and wait for when, inevitably, everything around these spineless dipshit will fall apart.
>>12097914found said ChatGPT'd code:https://github.com/ZDoom/gzdoom/commit/584af500736b0317e42824f39285ed3d954fc4e2>As for that AI hate - to be blunt: fuck it! Everybody is using AI for boilerplate code these daysthis might be fine if one doesn't care about copyright, like the xash3d guysalso the code itself is dogshit. we have>shell invocation>IsDarkMode_GNOME() and IsDarkMode_GNOME_Old() being nearly identical>no check whether getenv() succeeds>not using std::filesystem::path>unnecessary C'isms when C++ is availablealso it just tries all of the functions instead of checking what WM the user is actually using. what if a user has both GNOME and KDE installed, and is currently using KDE?>main dev is incapable of working with othersmany such cases. in fact I'm involved with a project that has this very issue (not gzdoom)anyway just name the fork something else and point to it from the zdoom website. hell, why not just call it zdoom?
>>12099854I can't point to any specific examples but I have remembered thinking it a few times and based on the fact he referenced /doom/ in a video he's at the very least aware of it and what kind of shit is said here so I think theres a good chance he lurks or he has discord trannys who do and show him shit we say here.
>>12098702Personally I'm not fan of the last few levels in JPCP but it's otherwise good map pack
>>12099872Well, that's just an educated guess then. I thought you had a specific example in mind from the way to talked about it.Could still very well be that something from here finds itself in his paywalled echo chamber.
>>12099872>>12099902He briefly mentioned /vr/ in one of his videos about Shadow Warrior (Pro Wang)
>>12099902I distinctly remember thinking it back when I really was active here and followed his content as it came out but that was a few years ago.
>>12099908From my understanding, this one doesn't have Rachel involved. If that's true, that's good.
as someone who's only knowledge of coding was the basic shit i learned from college 10 years ago, is AI code that much of a big deal? Has any big project went under because of poorly made AI code?
>>12099915Retro FPS doesn't exactly have a ton of really active communities, this one is certainly one of them and is fairly well known though is often publicly shunned due to it being 4chan and "problematic" though I am sure many of them lurk.
>>12099920It's bad because it's all effectively just chatbots scraping google searches and often hallucinating answers. There's an Anon a few posts above yours that shows the ChatGPT'd code and it's kinda shit.The real problem comes from the very real risk that people constantly use this shit for their project until everything is held together with this kludge.
>>12099920The only AI code you can trust is one that's trained on your input and basically acts like an autocomplete, and even then it's a pretty big "IF," whereas if you're asking AI for new code wholesale, it's pretty often gonna be trash. Plus, it's not like you're gonna be able to fix the bugs if you don't know how it works, and AI quickly fucks up "its own code" within the second prompt, as it's not like it actually understands how it works either.
>>12099920It's sometimes used by people who aren't programmers themselves, and don't catch when the AI for instance uses imaginary functions or libraries, which then don't work, or other kinds of errors.I'm actually kind of baffled that Graf, who's an actual seasoned videogame programmer veteran with credits going back to the 90s (including old PC and PSX games), would use AI generated code in this exact manner.Not because such a person wouldn't ever use it, there's plenty of veteran coders who, just like Graf says, sometimes uses AI to generate up an example for some minor or trivial thing, so they can spend more time thinking and working on more important parts.Rather, it's that he didn't go through that code to verify that the AI didn't fuck it up, not to talk about running and testing it. It's such a weird negligence.Lord knows he's not immune to negligence, but it's more that when using AI for this exact thing, that you wouldn't do your due dilligence on it.
baking
>>12097914>>12097959If you ever do a next point release, I'll be playing with texture filtering exclusively. Sorry for ever doubting your ways Graf.
>>12099986>>12099986>>12099986
holy shiti got pents
>>12099616If they successfully find a way back in, I'm running away and becoming a k8Vavoom modder.
I love Quake
>>12097959Wait so is gzdoom now the chud's port of choice?
>>12100057i should play the star wars doom games, never tried them, is there remasters or ports?
does anyone have the no chicken graffiti from selaco or whichever gzdoom game it was
>>12097410
>>12098704>>12099189Sharty lost
I love Doom.
>>12096518I would love to see BLOOD in Build2, I wonder how creepy and atmospheric the levels would look with the new lightning system
>>12096302moom 2 : moom mom moom
