>>12203464
>what I'm asking is if the Japanese praise OoT as much as westerners do despite the N64 shortcomings.
yes

it didn't sell that many copies, in general. more people own a copy of Die Hard 3.

>>12203472
But what game do nips own more of than OoT. It can't be Die Hard 3 over there. A licensed movie game about a bald middle-aged brutally Anglo peasant looking man? I doubt it.

>>12203464
It sold nearly 1 million copies in about 6 weeks in Japan. It also received Famitsu's first ever perfect score of 40/40. Sure, the N64 wasn't as popular as the Saturn or PlayStation in Japan, but Ocarina of Time was still highly praised and very successful there.

OOT is often considered the best ever in Japan also

Yeah I think they put it in their top 10 back in like 2006 or 2008

>>12203501
2006, it was 10th above Dragon Quest 5

>>12203476
>But what game do nips own more of than OoT
Well twilight princess was the best-selling zelda before botw

>>12203506
Right
https://www.listchallenges.com/famitsu-readers-100-favorite-video-games-2006

>>12203507
Wtf? But Aonuma told me japs wanted kiddy WW shit and only the west wanted grim twilight princess!?

>>12203464
OoT was pretty much the only Zelda game nips cared about until the Switch, so yeah, it did get a lot of praise.

>>12203606
>OoT was pretty much the only Zelda game nips cared about
You forgot about 1 and 2

>>12203561
rent free

>>12203464
>After all the N64 sales were low
It didn't sell that much worse than the Shaturn, which for some reason is considered successful even though that sold less games.
>if the Japanese praise OoT as much as westerners do
They do. it's a good game.

>>12203606
>>12203615
Japan didn't care about lttp or la?

>>12203654
They did. Those anons are just being fucking retards.

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>>12203464
I have always wondered the overall reception of the N64 in Japan since its such an western-oriented console, I know japan loves Kirby 64, Yoshi's Story and Mario Tennis, but besides that no idea.
I wonder if there's westaboos in Japan as obsessed with the N64 as weebs are with the Saturn.

>>12203464
People spread that moyamoto wanted oot to be first person at first. I'm still really curious what fps Zelda would be. I wonder if miyamoto never entirely rejected the idea and if that played a part in greenlighting metroid prime

>>12203654
>>12203673
ALttP and LA aren't that popular there, I never see those on the 'best selling' or 'greatest SFC/GB games' lists from Japan. I mean they most likely know those games exist but 1, 2 and OoT were genuinely the only popular ones there before BotW

>>12203693
>I'm still really curious what fps Zelda would be
King's Field 3

>>12203697
To be fair all the dragon quest and square games we didn't get probably bump it off the list

>>12203693
>I'm still really curious what fps Zelda would be.
King's Field, obviously, or any of the other boring early fps RPGs.

>>12203704
>>12203707
I don't think so. That's a bit closeminded

Gematsu 2021 Top 100 made from a poll of 50'000 Japanese gamers

>20. Minecraft (8059 Points)
>19. Suikoden II (8401 Points)
>18. Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater (8651 Points)
>17. The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time (9261 Points)
>16. Kingdom Hearts II (9316 Points)
>15. Dragon Quest IV: Chapters of the Chosen (9706 Points)
>14. Pokemon Sword / Shield (10401 Points)
>13. UNDERTALE (14010 Points)
>12. Super Mario Kart (14756 Points)
>11. Pokemon Diamond / Pearl (16655 Points)
>10. Super Mario Bros. 3 (22256 Points)
>9. Final Fantasy X (23001 Points)
>8. Chrono Trigger (26006 Points)
>7. Super Smash Bros. Ultimate (26602 Points)
>6. Dragon Quest III: The Seeds of Salvation (33905 Points)
>5. Splatoon 2 (35550 Points)
>4. Animal Crossing: New Horizons (39960 Points)
>3. Final Fantasy VII (50501 Points)
>2. Dragon Quest V: Hand of the Heavenly Bride (55250 Points)
>1. The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild (74000 Points)

>>12203713
Why would you even post this?

>>12203713
Japan's autistic obsession with DQ3 warms my heart. 4's my favorite though, one of the best NES games and RPGs in general

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>>12203480
Meanwhile Sega Saturn sold more consoles
Apparently, nobody bothered to buy an N64 to play the BEST GAME OF ALL TIME

Classic delusions from the Nintendo Fanboys.

>>12203514
>>12203713
I wish there was a poll between these two, farther away from the release of FFX for more hindsight and before the FF7 remake brought FF7 back into mainstream.

>>12203737
The 2021 poll still has FFX at #9, safe to say that they love that game. And I mean FF7 is not a game to be 'brought back into mainstream', it's fucking FF7

>Back in duh day :
Bro what if someone combined OoT and made it a giant open world...
>botw comes out

ffffuuuuck...
be careful what you wish for

>>12203717
To give the most up to date information I could find on how Japanese rank OOT?

>>12203713
>Sword/Shield being on the list at all
Holy retards

>>12203745
Yes but my point is the 2006 famitsu poll that had FFX at #1 was too close to FFXs release to accurately evaluate it and a 2021 poll artificially increased FF7s perception due to the remake. I am curious where both games would lie in a poll done around 2014 or something.

>>12203754
Think about how fucking terrible a similar list would be for America dude

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>>12203464
>Japanese praise OoT
stop lying

>>12203708
Nah you're just retarded with no frame of reference of that time. It wouldn't be as ambitious as you think it'd be.

>>12203757
>I am curious where both games would lie in a poll done around 2014 or something
Both top 20 definitely

>>12203763
Still impressive for an N64 game that came out in November honestly

>>12203760
Closest I could find was a poll from Reddit. Significantly worse and almost all non-vr


>20. The Last of Us Part 2
>19. Dark Souls 3
>18. God of War (2018)
>17. Chrono Trigger
>16. Minecraft
>15. Hollow Knight
>14. Halo 3
>13. Dark Souls
>12. Final Fantasy VII
>11. Resident Evil 4
>10. Fallout: New Vegas
>9. Mass Effect 2
>8. Bloodborne
>7. The Last of Us
>6. The Witcher
>5. The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild
>4. The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time
>3. Elden Ring
>2. Red Dead Redemption 2
>1. Skyrim

>>12203774
I never claimed that either. Jesus man are you incapable of nuance? From what OoT plays like and what miyamotos ideals were I feel I can assume more than it playing like kings field. You're literally just saying kings field because its the only game you can think of. There's no actual inference here. Thats like assuming OoT would play like Deathtrap Dungeon

>>12203787
The west can't make games
The west can't even play good games

>>12203787
Western gamers simply don't care about old games and I shit you not I'm confident that most people who voted for OoT, Chrono Trigger and FF7 have never even played the games themselves and just did this because it's a 'hip thing to do'

>>12203787
A list for the man who played everything on ps4 and uses his ps4 as a table to roll his joints on as he logs on to get his dailies in gta online

>>12203785
Imagine being Japanese and looking at the N64 game library.
There was literally nothing else for them to buy. I mean, a game that matched the Japanese taste in video games. Zelda is somewhat close

>>12203813
> literally nothing else for them to buy.
There were a couple of N64 games for them
>Sin and Punishment
>Ogre Battle 64
>Paper Mario
>Custom Robo

>>12203813
The Japanese are completely capable of enjoying things that aren't "japanese". Not every game has to be a shinto robe schoolgirl at the athletic fair studying calculus
Holy fuck man. They played and enjoyed Mario just fine. They liked banjo and pokemon fine. They even had goemon!

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>>12203787
Metacritic top scores looks a lot more like the Japan list. JRPGS everywhere

>>12203823
Mario and Pokemon are Japanese as fuck, it's just that they are so popular in the west they are no longer viewed as such

>>12203827
I wasn't using them as examples of non Japanese

>>12203813
?????
What a retarded post

>>12203813
what the fuck do you think japanese taste is that zelda is "closest" but nothing else on the n64 was

>>12203839
I'm talking about the context of new games released in late 1998, christmas. Not the entire N64 library at any given time.

>>12203713
>>12203787
Honestly

Skyrim > BoTw

>>12203872
Skyrim doesn't even make top 100 on the Jap list

>>12203872
All of those open world games are fucking trash, you eventually get so tired of seeing that shit everywhere that all of them start feeling 'dead' and soulles but BotW is genuinely the least shit of them all. TotK is garbage because it's just the same game all over again

>>12203878
Fucking sword and shield is there, a game that was a big middle finger all Pokémon fans, japs don't know shit

>>12203872
>>12203878
>>12203880
>>12203930
kill yourselves back to /v/

>>12203937
Fuck off subhuman moron

>>12203789
Just shut up.

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>>12203464
>Ocarina of Time is regarded as one if not the best game of all time by the west
it's not though
it's no space invaders
it's no doom
it's no silent hill
and not resident evil
not a asteroid in signt
not a pac man either
not a jet pac
or a sonic
or a zork
no colossal cave
or a diablo
not a half life
or a quake
non galaxian
neither outrun
not a pole position
no sign of ghosts, nor goblins
not a elite
or diabo either
no command or conquer
not a sign of crash
no nor spyro either
no oblivion
no morrowind
not red barron
no battlezone
not a lords of midnight
hardly a river raid
no nor myst either
not space harrier
or time crisis
not a silent scope in sight
not vector star wars
not sega rally
nor grand turismo neither
not gradius
or einhander
no wipeout
or f zero
no gunship
or black
not cod
or moh
not even a dace or fish
no starcraft
neither 1942
no not unreal tournament, nope
not duke 3d
or populous
not sim city

just shite
not games we love to member
just brandslop for kids

>>12203878
>Skyrim doesn't even make top 100 on the Jap list
they have no taste then

>>12203872
>Skyrim >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> BoTw

>>12195936

>>12203726
It was one of the best selling video games of 1998 in Japan

>>12204031
Because there was nothing else to buy. >>12203813

>>12203989
>silent hill
Stopped reading there

>>12203823
Those are all Japanese games

>>12203464
Most japs don't even know what legend of zelda is. It's never been a thing outside of north america.

>>12203748
If WE got BOTW as children we would have coomed so hard we would have died from excessive cooming due to overexposure to the best game of all time.
Alas, we had to settle for OoT as a childhood game and now we have to keep pretending it's the best ever woohoo

>>12205068
If you say so

>>12203713
tendo and jarpigs eewwwww

>>12203787
westerners are more hardcore gamers

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>>12203819
>There were a couple of N64 games for them
Grim:
>N64 w/ SM64
>June 23, 1996
2 years of nothing
>Ocarina of Time, 1998
1 year of nothing
>Ogre Battle 64, 1999
>Custom Robo, 1999
1 year of nothing
>Sin and Punishment, 2000
>Paper Mario, 2000
4 years, 6 games. No wonder even Saturn did better in Japan.

>>12203713
This list was weird as fuck, besides being horrible, it doesn't includes DQ9, which was a fucking phenomenon in the early 10s, people used to hang in Shibuya and you would see big ass groups of people just fucking around and playing the game, not seeing it on the list blows my mind.
>>12203787
This shit gave me cancer.
>>12203878
The list has the latest Pokemon games on the top 20, japs can suck on a dick.

>>12205580
It's literally only there because they wanted a remake, well I hope they enjoyed the remake lol

>>12205841
Damn. You're right. The list has every single Dragon Quest from 1-11 except for 9.

>>12205835
You can't be serious dude.
Your perspective on what japan likes is fucked. Totally ignorant.

It seems people forget about virtual console and re-releases

>>12203713
> 20. Minecraft (8059 Points)
Absolute kino
> 19. Suikoden II (8401 Points)
Jrpg...i sleep
> 18. Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater
(8651 Points)
Kino
> 17. The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time (9261 Points)
Kino, but mm is better
> 16. Kingdom Hearts II (9316 Points)
Giga enormous kino. As good or even better than 1
> 15. Dragon Quest IV: Chapters of the Chosen (9706 Points)
I sleep
> 14. Pokemon Sword / Shield (10401 Points)
I dont even know what pokemon is this. It peaked with gold/silver tho
> 13. UNDERTALE (14010 Points)
Cringe
> 12. Super Mario Kart (14756 Points)
Kino
> 11. Pokemon Diamond / Pearl (16655 Points)
Read above
> 10. Super Mario Bros. 3 (22256 Points)
Its okay. But world is 100000x better
> 9. Final Fantasy X (23001 Points)
Random ff game. Pick 6 or 7 if you have to put one in your list
> 8. Chrono Trigger (26006 Points)
I sleep
> 7. Super Smash Bros. Ultimate (26602 Points)
It peaked with melee
> 6. Dragon Quest III: The Seeds of Salvation (33905 Points)
I sleep
> 5. Splatoon 2 (35550 Points)
Children game
> 4. Animal Crossing: New Horizons (39960 Points)
Woman game
> 3. Final Fantasy VII (50501 Points)
Oh, they put 7 here.
> 2. Dragon Quest V: Hand of the Heavenly Bride (55250 Points)
Obligatory Random dragon quest game
> 1. The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild (74000 Points)
Open world was a mistake

>>12206742
Japs ranked it highly before the VC rerelease and I doubt it's because of the GC port

>>12206821
>jrpg bad
>but the gay jrpg with kiddy Disney shit? good
Lol?

>>12207728
It doesn't matter if it has Disney stuff, it's got some of the best combat for an arpg of its era.

>>12206821
So Splatoon 2 is a "children game" but Super Mario Kart is NOT a "children game"? Or it just is but it's also "kino"?

>>12207767
Sounds like you enjoy childrens's games, kinda cringe

>>12207767
Grow the fuck up dude

>>12203721
3 > 4 though

>>12203464
So we all know auster is regarded as one of the fattest and most diabetic autistic losers of /vr, and leaves a massive impact wherever he sits, but can the same be said of Nintendo fans? After all their BMI's are low. What i'm asking is if women hate auster as much as Nintendo fans do, because of his shortcomings?

>>12203464
>So we all know Ocarina of Time is regarded as one if not the best game of all time by the west
All of you and your frens in the padded cell in your head?

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>>12204031
>It was one of the best selling video games of 1998 in Japan
This was number one on the music charts in japan in 1998

"Yuuwaku" by Glay. No one cares.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_C_aRPJtJhk

>>12203713
>>14. Pokemon Sword / Shield (10401 Points)
I know the Japanese have shit taste, but fucking grim as fuck.

What's the deal with the sudden revisionism? Back in the early 00's every agreed oot was the best game ever made

>>12211087
the people that populate the internet now are barely human, roaches really.

>>12203464
>So we all know Ocarina of Time is regarded as one if not the best game of all time by the west

In America*
In Europe it was one of those games like Chrono Trigger, everyone pretended like it was the bestest thing but nobody played it until the early 00's and poorly coded N64 emulators [laughtracks].
Think of like Rondo of Blood in the US. That was basically OoT since nobody had an N64.

>>12203713
Today the only relevant game there is Minecraft

>>12211207
Cool but America makes more money than Europe

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What is so hard about enioying ganes you like? Why seek validation? Is your opinion not good enough?

>>12214745
Because that was worth the necrobump.