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=== CURRENT PROJECTS ===Duke It Out in /vr/Game : DN3D | Deadline : Jan 1st 2026Tile/Con pack: https://files.catbox.moe/thm4q7.zipRules: https://desuarchive.org/vr/post/11835634=== CURRENT RELEASES ===SUB MORTEM : A Dead Simple Halloween ProjectGame : Doom 2 | MBF21RC2: https://files.catbox.moe/bdpde1.zipDeep /vr/ied PotatoGame : Doom 2 | MBF21RC1: https://files.catbox.moe/3fml1f.zipNow on iDGames!https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/?id=21835=== NEWS ===[11-29] UZDoom 1.14.3 has had a full releasehttps://github.com/UZDoom/UZDoom/releases/tag/4.14.3[11-23] Helion v0.9.9.0 updatehttps://github.com/Helion-Engine/Helion/releases/latest[11-21] Voxel Duke releasedhttps://www.moddb.com/mods/voxel-duke-nukem-3d/addons/voxel-duke-3d[11-20] Beta 3 of Malice Refined for Quake has been releasedhttps://www.moddb.com/mods/malice-refined/news/beta-3-release-overview[11-18] Burger Bill/Becky has passed away.https://bsky.app/profile/hmcd.bsky.social/post/3m5u7i37gns2u[11-16] DBP77: The Economy of the Dead is out now!https://doomer.boards.net/thread/4191[11-16] SLADE v3.2.9 releasedhttps://slade.mancubus.net/[11-15] Nova IV update, "Hang on to each other" map finally playablehttps://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/152816-rc3-big-update-new-maps-nova-iv-mbf21-megawad-by-newer-mappers/[11-14] Odamex 11.2.0 releasedhttps://odamex.net/[11-14] TNT 2: Devilution final releasehttps://www.doomworld.com/vb/thread/104882[11-14] Odamex update: made the linedef in front of the bars that lock the player(s) in the exit lower them if pressed on.https://files.catbox.moe/qminra.zip[11-14] Kiss Psycho Circus, repack for modern OSes.https://archive.org/details/kiss-psycho-circus-repack_202511=== PREVIOUS ===https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-vrTgPGmlLwdO5VHHCJMxmRD05E6XlNmqHIN8aykRG0TO SUBMIT NEWS, REPLY TO THIS POST (ideally with the [MM-DD] date bracket)
I always wanted to remake habitat to something that looks like it might be the intention behind it, but I never really managed.
>Marathon>concept art shows a lot of extremely moody artwork>there's a very foreboding tone before you even get to the main menu>first mission's song is incredibly atmospheric>the actual in-game artwork are some goofy looking drawings
Lemme tell yall somethin you city-slicker joystick cowpokes: all this fancy-pants, slow-as-molasses nonsense like Deus Ex, Thief, and SS2? That aint gamin, that's sittin in a library wearin a cowboy hat for cosplay points. I don't need a tutorial voice readin me a bedtime story while a skeleton in a top hat tells me how to open a door. That's bureaucracy masqueradin as art, and I aint buyin it, not with my boots still caked in Quake dust.Now, Doom, Quake, Half-Life hell yeah, thats the wild frontier. Every jump, every rocket, every monster you blast into kingdom come? That's honesty, grit, and the smell of gunpowder in the mornin. That's gamin with spine, guts, and whiskey in your veins. You feel the map beneath your boots, the bullets in your teeth, the adrenaline in your brain. That's real cowpoke respect.Slow games? They spoon-feed ya plot like a wet nurse on a lazy Sunday. Real cowboys? We tear through levels like stampedin bulls, one-shotting whatever dares cross our path, spit in the wind, hat shadowin our eyes, gun smokin. You measure skill in frags and lightning reflexes, not how long you can read dialogue boxes.So saddle up, drop the lecture, and grab yer shotguns, boys. The prairie don't wait for your pacing or your storyboards. Action-packed masterpieces don't care if you cry about narrative. They care if you survive the chaos with teeth in your jaw and dust in your boots.
>>12211489didn't read + ur gay
>>12211487so?
>>12211503Maybe it's just because I'm so used to Doom and build engine graphics, but i always thought the game's artwork stood out way too hard
>>12211489at least write your own bait copypasta shitass none of this ai gen shit
>ok fine i give up clearly there's sprite overlaps with malice and siren>i'll load it up with psychic>picrelMALICE WHY ARE YOU DOING THIS TO ME MALICE
>>12211487PiD and Marathon 1 have a certain comic book charm that's mostly lost in 2 and Infinity.It's swapped out for doubling down on trippy 90s digital art though, so it's all good.
>>12211489Shut the fuck up, I. M. Gei.
>>12211526I don't exactly find it bad myself, I just think the contrast is really bizarre.Pathways' graphics at least look consistent
yeah okay the dragon's breath in PB is already a bit much what the fuck is this
>>12211546>FX design is my passion
>>12211561what's worse, the effects weren't nearly this retarded in 1.9if i knew how i'd go in and seriously tune down the effects but i'm retarded
I think I've got a handle on Kustam now. Mostly.>Terraligma musicNice.Also there's this weird bug where the music gets quieter when the song loops and I'm pretty sure it's the musicvolume stuff in sndinfo because it doesn't happen when I comment all of them out. That's with the custom music off(maybe also playing Doomslayer when it's on). There might be something with the monster count, too, because I was missing a monster on the last level despite everything being dead.
>>12211525Oh no
>>12211585Man I wish I could do something about the music volume stuff. But I don't have the tools or knowledge to directly modify the volume levels of SPCs/NSFs, I'm actually not even sure if that's possible.Did you mean to type "Terraligma"?
>>12211589I did, yes.
Oh, so that's what happens when you throw a golden barrel into a golden barrel.
>>12211525
>>12211685Yeah there's also some bug with one of the corruption cards (I think the random drop egg) that can spawn a bunch of golden barrels and if you set one off the chain of explosions fucking melt your GPU
Dunno how I feel about the logo aesthetic being so different
>>12211739I do not like it.
>>12209754Wads should do like DUSK did and add some sort of animation when pressing R.>>12211739That's so ugly.
>>12211739It's incongruous with the previous logo styles and makes it like something completely different.At least could've put it inside the same textured circle colored teal or something.
>>12211685That's the exact reaction I wanted to get out of people.Hopefully you at least laughed about it.
>>12211739Lol primary. They really have straight-up robbed count chicken's project off of him, haven't they.
>>12211739Honestly, I'm surprised they didn't just go with a rainbow for the color instead of the teal(?) they went with.
>>12211738That's... concerning. I wonder if there's a way to make the barrels exempt from the drop eggs?
>>12211767>At least could've put it inside the same textured circle colored teal or something.I think because of the way the letters overlap UZ would look too similar to LZ
I'm out of challenge ideas. I'd rather participate
>>12211774Their arrogance is disgusting
>>12211791Does it humour you greatly?
>>12211794
>>12211794That was one of the greatest flameouts of all time wasn't it. Better than "guess I'll go make Duke Builder"
>>12211767Would've looked nice.>>12211781Could've made them overlapping instead of side by side.Or anything, just to keep the round icon style.
>>12211770It was something like "oh fuck. haha whoops".
>>12211791Their arrogance and contempt humour me greatly, how dare they poison us with envy by forking out an opensource project that was already built of someone else’s project? Truly a smite of disrespect from their side that deserves a flood of accusations Honestly though even with improvements like vaseline filter being off by default I don’t believe it will keep being primary that long if most people will continue to use GZ anyways, especially if main changes from GZ will be useless troon barking like changing default pronouns in player options - El Pollero will probably return to be the main dev anyway and they will merge - though it will be a sour spectacle because he won’t forget how rachel threw him under the bus
>>12211459which doom enemy would love and hate christmas the most?
>>12211825>El PolleroThanks for teaching me an amusing new term.>Smuggler of illegal immigrantsLol.
>>12211767As a form of protest I used ResourceHacker to change executable's icon to GZDoom's, and replaced bootlogo.png inside uzdoom.pk3/graphics with a blue circle with chicken man's profile picture. And I do it every single update. That new logo is ugly as fuck. It assaulted my eyesight every time I booted up the game.
>>12211832Cacodemons are absolutely sick of being mistaken for baubles and hung from xmas tree branches.
>>12211838Wouldnt a better form of protest be simply not to switch?
>>12211837Honestly I think it just means “The Chicken Man” and I took it from Breaking Bad, but the other definitions are funny too
Which retro boomer shooter has the best second level song in your opinion?
>>12211893doodoo, doo, doo, doodoodoodoo, doo
>>12211739I'm fine with it, the GZDoom-based ones looked like something knocked out by a programmer in half an hour with a few filters as a placeholder that got stuck as that.
Cool boss fight but I wish he was a little stronger
>>12211848Cacos are tsun about it. They pretend to hate it when you put a santa hat on them and they can't remove it cause no arms but secretly they enjoy being cheerful tomatoes.Pain elementals hate it cause everyone hates them and they never get invited to anything.
>>12211893Blood for sure https://youtu.be/xdhDfHmpDvs
>>12211957>Pain elementals hate it cause everyone hates them and they never get invited to anything.Are you sure about that?
>>12211739Looks kind of boring, they could have at least try working the letters U and Z together somehow.
>>12212003Trust me, I'm not a caco. I couldn't possibly be one since I need arms to type this.That picture of yours was drawn by a pain elemental. In reality everyone loves caco and hates elementals.
>>12211825Rachel throws people under the bus like it's a verbal tic, Graf MUST have seen it coming, sooner or later.If it all DOES fold back into GzDoom again later, that would be so fucking funny and stupid that I would almost be fine with the blur filter default. Almost.
>>12211850True, but 4.14.3 fixes an annoying automap bug from 4.14.2. That's as far as I'm willing to go, though. Won't be making the switch to 5.0, regardless of the shiny new toys it brings. If GZDoom ever comes back, I'd likely go back to that, both for playing and mod development. It's chicken man or bust. For the time being I can safely target 4.14.x to satisfy both camps.
>>12212023You're not fooling anyone, mister. Hisster, even.
>>12212031>If it all DOES fold back into GzDoom again laterWhich it won't cause there's no need to, it's just the fantasy for weird people who have decided they prefer Graf in some dumb sourceport culture war shit.
>>12212127I could see it maybe happening because a lot of the people 'rebelling' aren't exactly of excellent competence themselves in all regards.
>>12212146Everyone involved in this is stupid, really.
cool map for exhumedhttps://www.moddb.com/games/powerslave/addons/temple-of-the-fire-and-the-water
>>12212146>a lot of the people 'rebelling' aren't exactly of excellent competence themselves in all regards.They seemed to handle JizzyDoom fine the last year or two of a mostly absent chicken.IDK, Graf's still attempting shit occasionally with his sole remaining contributor, maybe he'll bitterly backport stuff from the new port, maybe he won't.
>only one map left for Death Wish 2.0 we're going home Soon™https://x.com/BloodDeathWish/status/1994947904415678693
>>12211893https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ouyilq1HI2g
>>12211524>The devlish hanger in the upper left
>>12211524I bet the sprite is something like HANGA0 because it made sense to Xaser as Handgun and whoever is doing Project Malice these days as Hanging.
>>12212186release should be somewhere in January I think, the guy has a lot of maps to test
Operation Deadbolt anon here. The update is set to drop tomorrow, as well as a new map using the mod and featuring some new monsters made by a friend.
Shambler snappin' SNAP YO FINGERS, DO YA STEP YOU CAN DO IT ALL BY YOURSELF
the issue with hellrider vengeful crashing on the mall massacre battle in dbp77 map08 with project malice enemies turned out to not be the fault of hellrider vengeful, but nashgore nextguess it just got to be too muchafter finishing the wad i have to say i didn't really miss out on muchmap09, the eponymous Economy of the Dead, is just kind of an uninspired slaughter arena that shits out a couple waves at you, kind of a disappointing end to the wad compared to Grief Arbiternow i must consider what to play nextalso further bitchingNaku Naru 2>Another fucking SPAS-12 and Double Barrel combo. I'm way past "getting bored" of these in mods. At least it looks like it's drawn and not just a cronched 3d model>Another generic assault rifle machine gun, what's the point?>everything past Slot 4 is cool>4-barrel rocket launcher is cool but also way too easy to kill myself with, not sure why>magic naginata is cool>so on and so forthRaging Bull>SPAS 12 AND DOUBLE BARREL BABY KILLING MYSELF>the second most generic machine gun shoe-in, the twin uzis>grenade launcher on 5, at least it's a china lake and not an m79Atomrain Stormtrigger>mostly just random real gun 3d models crunched down, honestly i didn't play even a full map with thisInferno Suture>cool weapons all around but i don't give a shit about mbf21-style mods, sorry not sorrySiren>genuinely upset I can't play this with Project Malice, every single of the guns is interesting, even the classic green mod pistol has its own neat spin on it with a different internal boltVolatile Material>"all ammo replaced by various guns, no reloading, toss your old gun away and pick up a new one" is an interesting gameplay gimmick>the guns are whatever>cool menu>why does Mace LFW keep making mods with cool ideas, very cool menus, and thoroughly uninteresting guns?False Angel>honestly interesting and I was onboard until I noticed that every gun past slot 4 is an aggressively generic scifi rifle model
>>12212327regarding dbp77 i meant that i didn't miss out on much due to the crash, as in its weakest parts are that mall fight and then map09 as a wholealso if you've played a bunch of the dbps tell me which you think are the most like Grief Arbiter, i want that kind of aesthetic more
DBP76: Stagnant Weather
>>12211459Would like to see this chart updated with Doom 64 and Freedoom.
>>12212327I think you're better off making your own mod at this point.
>>12212372I like many mods with few if any notes, but those mods have their own enemy rosters and often won't work properly with another monster packI really, really like Insanity's Requiem. It just has the small issue that I get fucking blinded by the shotgun incendiary effects.
>>12212391I do agree with that Anon, you could always just start by grabbing specific weapons from these mods you like, see how that feels and go from there.Because having the desire to see cool shit can be a powerful driving force. Works for me.
>>12212391Just cut them off. If some Germanic asswipe stuck in 2007 managed to make a weapons and suit only version of Project MSX, so can you.Also what >>12212397 said. Make your autismus maximus energy work for you, rather than against you.
>>12212403>managed to make a weapons and suit only version of Project MSXFive seconds commenting include lines out.
>>12212169Right that's why I don't get why people are getting upset over Graf being ousted when he really hasn't done a whole lot for a long time. What's the last time he's done something truly impressive? I mean yeah he made GZDoom but he's also an insufferable sperg with the fucked up German autism that makes it impossible to work with him and he throws a fit whenever he gets even slightly questioned.
>>12211524Is this the Siren you're using? https://www.moddb.com/mods/siren-doom-tc/news/major-campaign-update
>>12211589It's not possible to directly modify volume levels of SPCs / NSFs, you'd have to convert them to something like wav, adjust volume, and convert back. You're smart so I'm sure you know that Kegan, but I bring this up mostly because doesn't his report make it sound like a bug you could deal with in the code, rather than necessitating modifying the audio files at all?
>>12212438I'm using 0.85 mod only.I'll try 0.86 just to see if it somehow works, I suppose
>>12212458>>12212438yeah no 0.86 also has the same sprite issue with malice
>>12211459The first 15 levels of Evilution are the best 15 sequential levels of any official campaign
>>12211512M1's art is mostly pretty bad but it probably looked better on an old CRT at a low res.
>>12212461HELLO? BASED DEPAHTMENT? I SAWR DIS KID, YOU'LL BE INTERESTED...
>>12211487There are bright color highlights but it's more for visibility, both the world textures and the core colors of most enemies are very earthy and drab.
>>12212453Well, I brought up that question initially because I don't think there's anything I can do about it via code on my end that's still zandronum compatible.
>>12212468Oh.
>>12211487also if you're referring to pic rel, it came after M1.
>>12212472Yeah. Because I'm sure there's some fancy Zscript wizardry or some other new bullshit that GZDoom has had for awhile that could be the answer to my problem. But keeping myself locked with Zandronum compatibility really takes a coffee table to my shins.So ultimately the music volume thing is a problem that I don't think I can fix, which kinda pisses me off.
Doom aged like wine, marathon aged like milk.
>>12212480It's pretty cheesy, yeah.
>>12212432>he really hasn't done a whole lot for a long time.Has anyone actually done much? The project doesn't really seem like it's shitting out any earth shattering changes. One side seems to be resting on it's laurels, and the other side seems to be resting on a man resting on his laurels. The drama is retarded. The software works as intended, what more does anyone have to contribute?
>>12212403>MSX enemies-free versionoh shit that's a great fit with malice now that i gave it a gosure the Slot4 is a generic assault rifle but the whole thing has enough SOVL to make up for thatalso forgot how bitchy MSX was about resolution bcuz of hte hud
>>12212432the enemy of a tranny is humanity's friend
>>12212461A provocative statement. Can you justify it?
>>12212484>The project doesn't really seem like it's shitting out any earth shattering changes.They've been mostly focusing on reworking the netcode so it sucks a lot less, which is a big deal even if the topology isn't going to change.There's also a lot of stuff like the controller changes that are in the GZDoom nightlys but not anything for UZDoom yet by the looks of it, which make using them suck a lot less.
>>12212492Stronghold alone makes the statement self-evident
Marathon trilogy is free on Steam and always has been. Play it if you have good taste.
>>12212541Nah, I'm good.
>>12212541I'm not gay but thanks
>>12212541I'll just watch that mandalore guy's videos on it
>>12212547>I prefer playing heterosexual games full of demon ass and gaping hole, thank you
>>12212554doom unironically made me a bit gay
>>12212560Why half-ass it? Go play Marathon!
>>12212554>>12212560Doom is pretty cool.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6e8WrmOibpMI thought this was just someone's portfolio thing. Nice to know it's happening.
>>12212584I'll believe it when it's out, that guy has a lot of stuff that never materializes into anything.
>>12212478A bit of a shame, but at least they look cool
>people who play picrel unironically calling Marathon cartoony
Somebody is porting Duke Nukem 3D to Build2What do you think?
>>12212616the closest marathon ever gets to looking like the Craig Mullins art is with Infinityincredible art for a 1995 game though
>>12212628>unironically calling Marathon cartoony
>>12212636what is build2?
>>12212628Yes, it's not wrong
>>12212667It's a new version of the Build engine (Duke3d, SW, Blood, RR) made by Ken Silvermanhttps://forums.duke4.net/topic/12867-duke3d-build2-project/https://www.advsys.net/ken/buildsrc/build2.htmhttps://www.youtube.com/embed/3qtmkkdND6MShame that a lot of these projects in these forums get archived/abandonedI remember other guy adding cool stuff for the engine but it got abandoned or unused
>>12212659>>12212669Fix your monitors
Abattoir is the worst track in Plutonia. Great map. >dudududu DEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>12212678I guess an upgraded Build engine is a neat idea, but idk why you would actually use this to make new stuff over either GZDoom or something fully 3D like Quake and its offshoots. It just doesn't seem to fill a niche other than I guess being easy to port Build 1 stuff to.
>spending 10 minutes going "is this right?"
>>12212685>he doesn't like Deep Into the Code
>>12212709this level is proof that jason jones was always a hack
>>12212709Just use the wall textures as an alignment guide.The real fucker is realizing that the middle one moves by a shootable switch.
So what happened with gzdoom? What is uzdoom? Did troons took over? qrd?
>>12212709>>12212714git gud
>>12212757Shootable switches are explicit by the time you get the fusion pistol, maybe even earlier
>>12212795Chicken man used AI gened code in one of his updates, his.. cohorts used this as an excuse to 'usurp' the project and make a fork
>>12212806dishonest way to look at it. chicken man has been a retard for decades and that was the last straw.
>>12212795an actual truthful summary>Graf used generative AI code for the Linux launcher>Pushed update without testing it or telling anyone>Got really defensive and acted like everyone else were being assholes>Graf sperged and told them to feel free to make a fork>Some people sperged out in a really impotent and stupid manner>Graf has had a long running track record of acting like this>The rest of the dev team said "fuck this" and forked the engine>Retards here use this drama as a means to shitpost
>UZDoom 1.14.3 has had a full releaseend of an era
>>12212814Eh, it's the same as when ZDoom and GZDoom were basically the same thing with minor differences, nothing's going to drastically change for a good while still.
>>12212802I always thought that having a "feature" like that in a game where you can't even look all the way down was weird
>>12212795Along with some conveniently scheduled public addresses from Nash & Co. which didn't fit into the pic
>>12212823Not really, I was 5 years old playing against my dad/brothers when I figured out the value of aiming splash weapons at enemy's feet
>>12212823Air Pfhor becomes essential on Total Carnage. It's the most reliable way to stun anything.
>>12212829>>12212830the wall climbing was what i was talking about
>/vr/ unironically defending 'no' chicken/doom/ is dead.
>>12212852See the last line here >>12212810We just have a handful of retards that are using this as a means to act retarded to annoy people.That being said, we are currently in a dark age.
>>12212795Graf was being Graf as usual, except this time it also involved him using AI slop code People got angry and that's why UZDoom is a thing nowUZDoom is even listed as the "Primary" port on the ZDoom website now
>>12212852I wouldn't pay them any mind, they're just the shitters who decided it's some idiotic /pol/ battlefield so they have to bend reality till they always liked him.
>>12212868"they're just the shi-ACK!"
>>12212870Cunt.
>>12211525>name single retarded question>dogshit brightmaps>hell id left>actual gzdoom gameplay
>>12212852>/vr/ unironically defending 'no' chickenIt's literally just because trannies were pissed at him. There's nothing more to it/vr/ would defend eating literal shit if they thought it would piss off trannies
>>12212852>'no' chickengo back
>>12212885no
So, what's everybody been playing lately?I've been giving Tele-Direct Redialed a go, it's way better that it has any right to be and I'm going to have to steal the very 90s PC statusbar for something.
>>12212852>>12212868>>12212878You people are ignoring the part where Graf has been right about a number of things, and also doing a bulk of the work on developing GzDoom, while the new crew of UzDoom just HAD to drag Rachael along, someone who NOBODY in the overall community actually likes or trusts as a person, because they're an infamously toxic and narcissistic manipulator.I'll remind you that Rachael was the exact same person who hijacked Skulltag from Brad Carney, and that they're permabanned from DoomWorld for various reasons, and that's before we get into later skullduggery which has already been discussed to death.Yeah, Graf has a LOT of flaws and makes some bad decisions, a lot of the other contributors (many who left for UzDoom) have actually made good additions too, and maybe UzDoom really will work out and successfully replace GzDoom for good.But can you HONESTLY fucking blame people for NOT immediately getting on their knees to throat UzDoom without question? Can you NOT see various non-political reservations which someone might have?You could look at it through that angle, but you can't ignore that various lefty trans people in the general GzDoom community exhibit an open disgust towards Rachael as a person (and for very good reasons), and some would point out where the perspective from UzDoom's devs isn't 100% honest or truthful, and that they're giving Graf less credit than he's still owed for the final blowup causing the split.
>>12212902Does Captain Wayne count? It's pretty funny at times, and I enjoy the combat, even if ammo and health supplies are on the overabundant side. Fuck the Smashers though, they're a menace when there's two of them.This got me pretty good, Wayne's a freak of nature.
>>12212908Graf's an idiot, Rachael should have been given the boot many many years ago, the UZDoom team are fools for keeping her around.
>>12212910>Does Captain Wayne count?It does, commercial GZ/UZDoom releases still count as retro.
>>12212908Isn't Rachael the same one who chased out Impie for wrongthink?
Sunday night Shitshow is here! This time its Favillesco trilogy with Insanity Survival Gameplaysearch for "macgu.fun" in doomseeker and the sourceport is Zandronum
>>12212917On the GzDoom end, yeah, but he's a persona non-grata on Doomworld as well for the same reason.
>>12212926Some shit in one of his mods that he's long since purged of his own accord because he felt like it was damaging his hopes of having a writing career.
>>12212916I really like the arsenal. Making your shotgun a starting weapon that's a solid workhorse but still keeping it in check with a two shot -> reload system means you're going to want other weapons still, you can get a lot done with the shotgun alone though, you just have to respect the reload or you get fucked.Fists are pretty good, the knuckle crack radial stun move is powerful as hell and the charged lightning punch is satisfying. Chaingun's good, boom brew is VERY fun to use.I don't make enough use of the cannon and shock weapon though, primarily because I can unleash so much carnage with just the shotgun, chaingun, and bottles.Enemy roster is pretty varied and the basic gun toting goons are very aggressive, it's actually cool how the shotgunners rush you to get in close to land a meatshot, I've never really seen that done before, boxing dudes are fun to fight as they block and have big damage resistance unless you run in and kick their asses over. Bottle carrying seagulls are complete bastards but they always make their presence known, and I appreciate that a lot. The grenadier goons are also menaces and I always hit them with a bottle. The construction worker dudes are kinda weird though, I've never found them too much of a threat but they take a shitload of punishment from most weapons, but a single bottle kills them. Later on in the game there's a high tier fish monster that's a cross between Quake's Fiend and an Archvile, they'll fuck you up real bad.Wayne's a really fun protagonist, love his antics during the cutscenes and some of the shit he says during gameplay is funny. I want this game to succeed. You boys should go play it.
>>12212942>I want this game to succeed. You boys should go play it.I played the shit out of the demo, just don't have time to throw at the full thing right now, sounds like it's doing well though, which is good.
Oh I also forgot to mention I think it's really interesting how all healing/armor items grant overheal/armor. With both decaying back to 100 if you're above it. The game feels like it really wants you to keep moving forward and kicking ass, good shit.
>>12212942>Making your shotgun a starting weapon that's a solid workhorse but still keeping it in check with a two shot -> reload system means you're going to want other weapons still, you can get a lot done with the shotgun alone though, you just have to respect the reload or you get fucked.It's something I'd thought about a fair bit, having a good melee option and a mini shotgun for the pistol replacement so you're going between the two while getting stuff with more range / firerate to fill out the gaps, possibly with dispersion pistol-like upgrades for said mini shotgun to keep it from falling into irrelevancy.
>>12212803Yes, but the one in CSFSC is hidden above the door you enter the main room by, so you're not likely to realize it's there while fighting with the pillars. This leads the unsuspecting to try and set up the staircase with the middle one as fixed when what you have to do is create the lower half and the upper half separately.
>>12212636there is a reason why barely anyone knows that build2 even exists
>tfw I havent used gzdoom in literal years, so I dont even care either way about uzdoom.
>>12212910>Fuck the Smashers though, they're a menace when there's two of them.Tap-firing the shocker makes smashers and EARL into a joke.
>>12213000Writing that down, I had tried the altfire on them when they were running at me and either I missed or the altfire wasn't enough because they still charged my ass.
>>12212678>https://www.youtube.com/embed/3qtmkkdND6Mwhat's up with your linkhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3qtmkkdND6M
>>12212985I won't use either of the two, since tranny goblins have had their ghoulish mitts on both.
>>12213012Nobody tell them about Nugget and DSDA.
>>12212678this camera movement, ARE YOU TRYNA MAKE ME NAUSEOUS??https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=930KZ7OpjU4
>>12213012I really don't care, anon.
>>12213027oh
>>12212902I've been playing TNT: Revilution a bunch and I'm having a hard time seeing how TNT: Devilution could possibly beat this because it's fantastic so far. Transduction is one of the coolest Vanilla Doom compatible levels I have ever fucking played. Maybe the coolest one even. But we will see cause I'm gonna play it after.
UZdoom released AND it sucks.
>>12213089>TNT: Revilution a bunch and I'm having a hard time seeing how TNT: Devilution could possibly beat this because it's fantastic so far.I've gotten to a point where I can't even remember which is which out of those two and the other one, I just remember some of the maps.
>>12211489ai...
>>12213014Joke's on you wise guy. I only play with 'Delphi Doom', the med choice of port.
>>12212705People like niche things. People are still making games for the 3DO, or Amiga, Commodore, Gameboy, etc.>>12212814It'll only matter when people start making mods exclusively for UZDoom and games with UZDoom.
>>12213148>It'll only matter when people start making mods exclusively for UZDoom and games with UZDoom.Quite a few developers like Kinsie have said they're exclusively going to target UZDoom 5.0 and onwards for it's features.
>>12213152does 5.0 not exist at all what is this. revamped multiplayer wtf
>>12212705ken silverman only made it to show engine programming to some kids
>>12213164It's nowhere near done yet, dummy.
>>12212827Wait, it made the mainstream press? LOL
>>12213179sigh............
brothers, started HL1 for the first time and it's a masterpiece, i'm at Surface Tension now, only problem is the difficulty, is it me or the enemies can take way too much damage? maybe it's because i'm playing on hard but you can shoot a soldier for 3 seconds straight with your mp5 and he won't die
>>12212757I hate marathon level design. Does it get better in later games?
>>12213196>only problem is the difficulty>maybe it's because i'm playing on hardchange the difficulty to medium, hard mode turns the enemies into sponges
>>12213196something valve never did right was the difficulty settings. Switch back to normal if you don't like spongies that much
>>12212709This "puzzle" wouldn't be so bad if the rest of the level didn't also suck.
>>12211272huanlopan877 on libera irc. If anyone is interested, shoot me a dm there.
>>12212127as someone who loves the idea of a GZDOOM alternative i just get the sinking feeling it's going to be another situation like arthmoor and the unofficial patch and nothings been able to shake that.i'm more interested in seeing where UZDOOM is a year from now than what they have right not.>>12212169at this point i expect him to vibe code future updates.a pariah who hates working with people and a tool that eliminates the need of other people sounds like a match made in heaven or hell depending on your POV.>>12212484>The software works as intended, what more does anyone have to contribute?support for the nightdive episodes of heretic & hexen comes to mind.
>>12213196hard is fun but it's intended for people who beat the game a few times already. you can get through it if you think harder about every marine encounter. flank them, use snarks, use tripmines, etc. one thing that's not immediately obvious is that your pistol does a lot more damage than the MP5 and it's almost always pinpoint accurate. use it to chip at their HP then finish them off with another weapon at closer range.
>>12212925gottem
>>12212925GGs and Take it easy gonna try to join in the xmas season but maybe spotty(also in kart) t:gamera man :DDDDDDDD
how good are your projectile dodging skills
>>12212925>>12213342GGs
>>12213360Is it easy to do?
Does the whole DooM sourceport thing even really matter? Zandronum is clearly superior, there's no GZDoom port of Farty Guns.
>>12212902Plutonia + Hellrider Vengeful. I'd buy a full game with properly themed enemies and whatnot. So good. >>12213360What is this?
>>12213381Depends if it’s girl farts
>>12213385I mean it's King Assripper not queen.
>>12213383>What is this?Shadow the Hedgehog - the Hell encounter with Inverted Alien Vendetta
>>12212937low t behavior tbdesunow you lose on one side (for being a chud) and on the other (for being a pussy)
So what's the story with doom? Your guy joins the space army and goes to Mars to kill aliens?
>>12213313EXDEFS weren't open-sourced so they can't add them legally.
Can anyone recommend a solid megawad for DooM RPG? I can't seem to recapture just how good Back to Saturn X was for a full playthrough, even if I was obscenely overpowered by the end.
>>12213208They're not radical departures, they mostly make attempts at less abstract level design.
>>12213495Strange Aeons, though you'd have to patch a few items and weapons back to the Doom versions for the gameplay mod to replace them with the right shit.
>>12213493You don't need to add EXDEFS into the code, you need to write an EXDEFS parser to read EXDEFS from the wad.It's at least as legal as Strife support that already is in ZDoom.
>>12213554>It's at least as legal as Strife support that already is in ZDoom.Not even Shitedive's Strife additions are all supported, just one of them, and it's not even the softlock fix.
>>12213492>goes to MarsZoomer nu-Doomer detected.
>>12213568I meant the original one. AFAIK Strife source code is still lost.Speaking of, Nightdive's Strife additions are actually open source, so who knows why they aren't added to ZDoom.
>>12213018Reminds me of PowerslaveAlso, it's the default movement in the Build2 demo
>>12213601>so who knows why they aren't added to ZDoom.Graf only bothered with some minor shit and left the rest alone.
>>12211546Honestly looks like you have bloom on, ill make sure to let the guys that took over IR2 though know that it might need some tweaking once they finally get back to working on it after getting the files
>>12213492Doomguy (sexually) assaults his officer and gets sent to Phobos to watch porn. Demons invade and he has to fight them. In one wad he has sex with a male imp.
>>12213628PB STANDALONE MONSTERS 2025 WHEN
>>12213646when the monster roster is done, tier1 only has like 60% ish of the monsters converted to ZScript, and only a few of them have the fresh art assets donemost namely, the Cacodemon has its art assets done and in the mod already, Pain Elemental is more or less done, Archvile is almost doneeverything else is still single front facing sprite concept phase. Except zombiemen and what not, those are being made as a handful of separate sheets to streamline making large amounts of variants of.but for sure, once all that is done Ill make sure to make a PBMonsOnly, should work better with other mods too since PB is shifting over to more vanilla balance so its not like triple damage compared to vanilla
That is such a great name for a map. Could be a band, album, or song name. DPB Morbid Autumn.
>>12213669Righteous. I have a very old version, and it used to work, but it's evidently stopped working at some point in GZDoom's history.
>>12213554Yes, but you can't properly parse them if you don't know what they do. Reverse-engineering code is illegal, so it has to be done by observation, which Graf at least found unsatisfyingly inaccurate.
>>12213179Any idea what the overhauled multiplayer is about?
>>12213690Sounds like some weird combo of thrash metal and black metal
>>12213710A lot of optimization so it handles stuff better and can handle more people without going to shit.It's definitely not about proper client/server setups though, best it'll ever get is packet server mode.
>>12213704I think thats the one built on the old 3.0 Stable builds from 2018 or 2017 right? i might have that laying around and could probably patch it up, but its still going to be pretty janky and unoptimized
What's up with ugzdoom or whatever the fork is called?
>>12213748If you found the time, for sure man. This is the one I have. Downloaded it way back, and it came with some Trailblazer patches. I've only included them for posterity.https://mega.nz/folder/odQHwAZS#4iZ-x4zq2nM8MtdCtNRjsw
>12213756
>>12213704Some versions are around that still seem to work, lol.
>>12212541Their really good but the first one has a handful of shit levels that can and will turn people off which is a shame because durandal and infinity are consistently great imo. But 1 does suffer from being the first. And it's not like you can just skip over unless you want to miss out on the plot.
>>12213784gib
>>12213761will do probablyjust realized too that ill have to figure out how to redo the hit detection from the monster side.... since in PB now all the hitbox stuff and damage mults are handeled from the bullets themselves
>>12213784You really don't know how much I want that friendo if you're willing to share.>>12213797Shit, if this guy pulls through you ain't got no worries man.
>>12213802Im like kinda interested nowwhat the FUCK does this even mean???
>>12213790>>12213802Can't say how new it is short of it being dated 2021 but.https://files.catbox.moe/b3rvit.pk3
>>12213809Holy fucking shit it works. Hell yeah man.>>12213807If you can fix it I'm down to use it despite this development. I do enjoy hoarding digital artefacts.
>>12213819youre better off using that one, its waaay more cleaned up and like 80mb shaved off. Ill post here though if i get around to making an updated monsters only file though
>>12213825May you have a nice dinner soon.
>>12212802weird to see that my video is being posted two years later.
>>12213502I feel like a lot of games are hindered almost purely by level design. Obtuse progression, or bland environments, Samey feeling encounters. Some of that might be time constraints, trying to get a game of a certain play time out before a deadline.
UZDoom is so good. It's just GZDoom with better defaults and more performative. Very cool.
>>12213756It's a fork of GZDoom getting it away from Graf Zahl. Basically making it a true open source project that doesn't have to have every single change made put through one guy who can get pretty childish about changes sometimes. Though the real nucleus was when it was found out that he added vibe code into the codebase which no other devs liked, and then he said to just fork the project if they didn't like it. And so UZDoom was made.
>>12213868You're talking about Graf, as if he was some kind of a boogeyman, like Candlejack.If GZDoom wasn't a true open source project, you wouldn't be able to fork it under a
>>12213880
>>12213868It was the straw that broke the camels back, should have happened ages ago but him being a complete shit and barely even getting called out for it became normal to all of them, so did blaming people he went off on one at for him losing his shit.
Remember to eat a balance break feast or Chex Warrior will be mad.
>>12213905I'm glad for the other devs that they can continue their own fork of GZDoom without Graf breathing down their necks constantly or just being a child.
tfw Community Chest 1 was intended to only use vanilla doom's mapping config while taking advantage of removed static limits, but is technically not a pure "limit removing" wad by modern definitions, because playtesting was done in boom, and thus requires using a boom complevel due to certain boom bugfixes and changes to certain behaviors being relied on in a few instances.
>>12213628I did have bloom on.Even with it off the sparks are extremely fucking bright.
>>12212537My fucking nugger.
>>12212685I liked Deep Into The Code in the original Doom, and I liked it in Plutonia.Reusing mostly Doom 1 tracks for Plutonia wasn't perhaps original, but hey, they were literally two mappers working their asses off, and it's at least different from Doom 2's and Evilution's music, so it works out.>>12213910I can't enjoy breakfast cereal as an adult anymore. Either it tastes good but then it's just fucking candy in a bowl of milk, and it's a shit meal, or it's got some actual fiber and nutrients without being 80% sugar, but it tastes like cardboard in milk.Just not worth it for me.
>>12212685Its a good slayer song, though.
>>12214073>or it's got some actual fiber and nutrients without being 80% sugar, but it tastes like cardboard in milk.So add something sweet. If not sugar, then maybe honey, or fruit or whatever. Use white chocolate milk if you've got that where you live, it's great for cereal. It looks almost exactly like regular milk, so it preserves the aesthetics, plus you don't get that sugary slush at the bottom of the bowl.
>>12214073I'm not cricizing Plutonia or its usage of Doom 1 tracks. I forgot that track even was in Doom 1. I just fucking hate that dudududu DEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE. I do like Bobby Prince's anecdote regarding its creation, however. Just two dudes, working all fucking night to get something done.>>12214080For sure.
>>12213131What wad?
>>12214121Eviternity 2 ?
why is john romero posing like that? is a faggot?
>>12214156go to bed wilits
>>12214130looks like 1, actually. 2's hud is different, and also wide by default.
given his 'tism i highly doubt carmack thinks about doom at all
>>12213832I see someone post classic Marathon footage without eye-raping "remaster" textures, I save
>>12213690>Morbid AutumnOne of the very best DBPs.
>>12212802I really had to learn the wall climbing for the Gherrit White secret
>>12214185I don't think he even finished any of his games.He's a code autist, when you talk about games he thinks about the tech and the optimisations he made for them, which is why he's always talking about quake.
>>12214201
Not to needlessly dogpile, but this is the retro fps thread.I dropped the original Marathon after 2 maps. In 2 maps, I just was not impressed with any of it. The odd, comic book style enemies against the primitive FPS colony ship Marathon corridors, the fact that the corridors didn't look like a colony ship at all, and the guns that felt worse than Doom in every way. Couldn't stand it. I know its primary legacy is its writing, but the game just isn't enough for me to find out how good it is. The most positive thing I can say about it, is in Reelism 2.1, it's always fun to get that slot where everyone turns into the Marathon protagonist.
>>12214216>I know its primary legacy is its writing,I didn't like Durandal as a character most of the time
>>12214216I'm into Marathon about as much as I am into say Half-Life, and Marathon 1 just isn't that fun as a game.2 and Infinity on the other hand easily surpass it. The art's better, the sounds are better, the gunplay is significantly improved thanks to the shotgun(s) and the gameplay itself is better.Infinity's level design is actually pretty damn insane in a good way, even if the only actual new content boils down to one new weapon that shines underwater (even though there's much less water in the game), one new NPC in the vacbob and some recolors.There have been some attempts to revisit Marathon 1 with the style of its sequels, but that mostly comes from stuff like Marathon Eternal and thus are confined to a story arc or two. I'd kill for a proper remake.
Ok so far TNT2 has been a banger, enemy count is a bit skitz but otherwise it's really fun, well balanced and feels well designed. I'm too dumb for most secrets but it's built well enough you never feel lost or directionless.
>>12214201Nice, I've never even attempted that one desu
>>12214226I actually prefer M1 to the sequels for pure combat. The AI spends a lot less time waiting/between actions in the original and more time just pursuing you, which combined with usually narrower quarters makes things more intense. Enforcers having hitscan (or hitscan-like; not sure which) attacks is also a lot more menacing than the arachnotron-like attacks they have in M2/MInf. Hulks, while obviously HP sinks and not too hard to avoid if you know the layout of the map, introduce living obstacles that M2/Minf have no parallel to, more like super-Pinkies. The enemy security bots in M1, while only featured in one level iirc, are maybe my single favorite enemies in any FPS, in how they strafe you and basically take cover by patrolling hallways perpendicular to your location, and in how aggressive they are with the machine gun/grenade combo. I also love how if you shoot them with a non-fatal grenade/rocket, the physical force causes them to dip in the same direction until they recalibrate their correct altitude.Maybe a hot take but I think M1 had a better balanced arsenal too. The dual shotties in M2/MInf are legendary, but too sparse on ammo to make regular use of, it's almost more of a temp/super-weapon. The flamethrower in the original is almost like an ammo-consuming chainsaw, cuts through everything and effectively has permanent hit-stun, extremely powerful, whereas the sequels make half of the enemies resistant to it and there's almost no reason to even use it in M2.
>>12214246It's time to admit TNT is the better commercial Doom expansion.
>>12214284TNT 2 can be better than Plutonia 2 without TNT being better than Plutonia.
>>12214286There are two TNT2s howerer. Soon three.
I didn't fucking know Dario Casali did a Plutonia commentary what the fuck.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gzhBkRU0liU
>>12214280As I was brushing my teeth I realized that the M2/MInf cyborgs actually fill a pretty hulk-like role, and I have to admit that the chain reaction explosion mechanic is a lot of fun and adds a little more purpose in corralling enemies with grenades
>>12214295It's where that one webm of the guy trying and failing to kill a chaingunner with the SSG comes from
>play Insanity's Requiem, having fun>it just randomly breaks the keys on maps by mixing up yellow skullkeys with yellow cards>has a baked in texture pack for liquids which also makes many maps look like shit due to incongruent liquidsjesus christ man
>>12214280I agree that M1 has more interesting monsters that 2 and Infinite cut from their rosters, but a few (like the ticks that blow up) were reasonable enough. Ultimately, I dislike M1 more for the level design and for how experimental (as in they probably weren't too familiar with their own tools), it still makes the Marathon more like a man-made anthill. I suppose it makes sense in context, but the game never quite won me over.I still would kill for a remake with the best of 1 and Durandal, either way. 1 had some genuinely scary moments and in general was fun, 2 had better-feeling guns and a more cohesive artstyle.
>>12214286Yeah original TNT to me was always a case of neat concepts and ideas, but the execution is unfortunately still very 1995. Good for its time, but hard to go back to outside of a few maps, IMO. The sequels however feel like TNT's ideas in a modern lens, which makes them more enjoyable for me.And I've always kinda leaned towards Plutonia Revisited, too. While Gusta did produce some high quality maps for Plutonia 2, PL2 unfortunately kinda forgot that one of Plutonia's strengths was its small-medium sized levels, and theres just too many that are overly long.
>>12214162Fair enough, you're probably right. I said 2 because I saw slopes. I associate the sequel with ridiculous detailing & making slopes out of thousands of 1px wide sectors. People used to laugh at King Reol doing that shit 20+ years ago, now you get sucked off for it.
>>12214338>I associate the sequel with ridiculous detailing & making slopes out of thousands of 1px wide sectorsI remember 1 had a few rare instances of this (map08 has a small use of it), but they definitely went more ham with it in 2.The slopes from >>12213131 look to be faked with textures, rather than pixel sector detailing, though.
>>12214356>The slopes from >>12213131 look to be faked with textures, rather than pixel sector detailing, though.Hmm. On second glance this is clearly true. I'm not sure why I thought otherwise. My mistake, sorry. Need more sleep.
>>12214338>People used to laugh at King Reol doing that shit 20+ years ago, now you get sucked off for it.To be fair, doing that kind of sector detailing 20+ years ago would certainly have tanked most peoples framerate to a crawl back then.
>>12212461TNT map08 alone disqualifies this statement
>>12214221Da Jokah baby
>>12214297Decades of rust, I guess.
>>12214156
>>12214396>i'm so insane (heh)
>>12214297
>>12214412Painful to watch.
>>12213572Not your zoomer boogeyman, just didn't play nerd games growing up.>>12213635That's a strange plot, I don't even know what weirdo came up with that, why demons?
>>12214410I liked it, I have a lot of nostalgia for that invader zim-like lol i'm so crazy humor
>>122142162 is way better. did you turn up the difficulty to major damage? i thought the default was kinda boring the first time i played it.once i figured out that melee damage is calculated from your velocity it really clicked
>>12214430>why demons?Because homosexuality is a sin. Game is metaphor about coming to terms with homosexuality. It's elevated horror. HFFM expands on this theme.
>>12211586
>>12214586it's weird that all the insane citizens are only seen in Point Insertionpeople take the water thing at face value but that guy might just be going insane from the paranoia
>>12214659You aren't really in the cities proper past that point, it's all Resistence membersThen again that Cubbage guy that gives you the rocket launcher did seem a bit loopy
holy shit bill clinton is huge
>>12214773That's what Monica Lewinsky said
>>12214773also the ending audio is busted on eduke32 and rednukem.on eduke32, there are some random sounds that play and audio is out of sync.on rednukem, it's completely silent.The only fixes available are some hotfixes that i don't care enough to learn about
>>12214586>>12214659Is that Mike? Fuckin' love that guy. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kntdPSJJhqA
>>12214781Even the Megaton edition has it fucked up like in eduke
>>12214539Wow that's gay
Why does it seem likere super stripped back dehacked-based mods becoming all the rage lately?Brutal MBF21. This MBF21. That MBF21. It feels like doom modding is purposely regressing technically... Because of what? Because le decorate le bad? Le no chicken? What's the reason?
>>12214845It's new and novel.
>>12214845because MBF21 and Decohack.
>geezydoom pain screen blending much lower than purist ports>play it after playing bunch of purist shit>taking 80 damage and taking 20 look almost identical now>sense of feedback fucked>no slider to change it>damagescreencolor can go down but not up>wads like eviternity fucking with the palette so even software can't escape>pain palette irlThose fuckers.It is helpful feedback to actually be blinded when you are IN BLINDING PAIN.
>>12214861lol I turn it off, I go by my health counter
>>12214861Just simply do not get hit.
>>12214845I mean this with no exaggeration or conspiratorial tone, but most of the people who would've developed cool worked-out gameplay mods say 10 years ago, now think of themselves, "why don't I take this and make a full proper game and make the big bux like Hedon or Selaco or etc"And then they never finish or release anything because huge TCs almost never get completed compared to just a gameplay (Weapons+character) mod.
>>12214868also I am well aware that this opinion will probably get people pointing at Captain Wayne but that's just survivorship bias, for every Captain Waybe we have 3-4 cool mods that never got made because the autist got tangled in scope creep trying to make a TC
>>12214862I turn off all hud elements and use a proportional damage/healing sound mod to determine how much health I've lost or gained.He sounds like he cums if you pick up a megasphere at low health.
>>12214845I just think it's cool to have nice guns in non-ZDoom ports that aren't niche and offer a rather vanilla experience.Besides, what >>12214846 said.I really gotta make some op guns mod for slaughterwads.
>>12214868They would have still been stuck making a huge TC or a immensely bloated gameplay mod instead of a commercial game using the engine. See the stuff people like Batandy have said about the immense effort that goes into making TCs, or the gameplay dudes like Kegan and Term who have not be wrangling the same wackass engine for the rest of their lives.
>>12214845gzDoom just doesn't work very well, I'd rather play on an enging that actually runs like it's from 1993 if I can help it.
>>12214881>who have not bewho have plans to not beThanks disappearing words.
>>12214881This is true, but we might at least have playable builds of those projects if they were being developed as TCs or mods. The way it is we end up with "me wan make real game mak real money" and then the half baked thing that might very well have a completely functional gameplay portion is unreleased.Space Cats Saga is cool.Space Pirate is cool but the way it's stuck playable only on the time attack mode is retarded.Kegan's whole portfolio is what I want to see more of. Whomever made Treasuretech, I don't remember, also. Serious mods too obviously.my point was that the people who might have developed big fatass gameplay mods or TCs are still doing that but under the pretense of "developing a real game" so they don't release partially finished but playable-with-other-wads builds anymore, at least most of them don't.
>>12214886Ultra64 made TreasureTech, and he's working on TreasureTech Land, slowly but surely.Also I'm glad you enjoy my portfolio of work. I'm hoping Roland and RELIC will be received just as well.
>>12214891>Roland and RELICCare to spill a bean or two?
>>12214886You're only going to get more sore from here on in since Term was talking about making his upcoming mod a commercial release with it's own campaign.
>>12214910yeah of course he wouldI've been waiting for Divine Frequence for 8 years
>>12214886>>12214868>Hedon, Selaco .etcHedon had a bunch of free releases of the first maps, Selaco has demos, Rekkr has most of it for free, Beyond Sunset has demos, the list goes on.If you just want everything for free fine, pirate away matey, but whining about it like paid stuff is causing some kind of release dark ages, is fucking dumb cause shit going unfinished or unreleased has been a constant for most of the history of modding Doom.
Money ruins everything, part 673
>>12214906Yeh. Roland will be a mod based off Burl_Tumd, play as a security officer dude with a bunch of smaller prototype weapons, and also a life stealing sword bound to altfire, lower on the power scale for shit I make, I wanna make something vanilla-ish there. I'm hoping Roland'll be simple enough for you boys to just throw it up for SNS with no worries.RELIC will be like a sequel set after that with the same protag, but older and all cyber-ized. That one will take more after DAKKA with its gameplay, with the big gimmick there being a meter that be like a devil trigger/tome of power to soup up your guns. You'll still have a sword on altfire, just a different one. I wanna experiment and see if I can make Ys style bump combat with the sword.Specifically holding the button for bump style combat, or pressing the button once to slash with it twice before sheathing it, kinda taking notes from Tower of Druaga's sword there, really.Also I'm gonna try voicing this protag because I wanna try voice acting stuff, that sounds fun and the most I've done so far is some monster sounds for one of Skelegant's projects, and construction worker guys in GS3, vocaroo related.https://vocaroo.com/1gFVpij5qfwo
Imma play Douk3d with the voxel douk mod, since the game literally happens during december 2007 per e1m1 calendar at the theatre>>12212015trannoids have zero fashion sense, all they know is how to destroy things and not create.
>>12214938>vocarooCouldn't help yourself ending it with a Quarantine shopkeeper laugh, could you?Hehahah!
>>12214958Either you know I have a fondness for that clip or maybe I got the vibe across.I want that to be Hector's taunt in RELIC.
>>12214948>trannoids have zero fashion sense, all they know is how to destroy things and not create.You've got some serious obsession problems Anon.
>>12214976i saw that "logo" a million times in the most generic stuff on the internet
>>12211739niggas on here will recommend a port whose logo is the letter D next to a really bad doodle of a dog and then they'll turn around and say this one is "ugly"
>>12214932You don't understandI don't actually dislike the paid full releases, the ones that come outthe problem is that new modders see those releases and think "i can also do this" (they can't) and instead of developing a more modest project they dash themselves against the rocks like a retarded carp trying to jump up the dragon gate before it even figured out how to swim properlyI like Hedon, Rekkr, Sel- ok no Selaco is troonshit and doesn't understand FEAR at allBut generally speaking I like the actual gzd-based full gamesI just don't like the effect their existence has had and is having on the modding ecosystem
Having replayed Redneck Rampage recently, I was wondering if anyone ever did a replacer/TC type thing of RR for Doom? Like weapons or a texture replacer or enemy pack or all of those in one? And curious if any of the other Build games got similar mods for Doom. I know Blood and Duke have some. Not sure about the others.
>>12214987Aspirations are disgusting, give me content.
>>12214987>SelacoThe "hubbub" over it recently got me to check it out again. Still not too bad.
>>12214998There's one called Doomed Redneck and two others I forgot the names of.
>>12215005It's fine really, it just got way, way overhyped for what it actually is.
>>12215012I don't get out of here so I wouldn't know, thankfully. Sucks to suck.
>>12215002Aiming too high from the get-go and then not making anything in the end is the issue. From my POV, or at least speaking in terms of what I am experienced with, it's like trying to write a super ambitious epic fantasy and being dead-set on hitting it big with a "real publisher." In reality, most aspiring authors would be better fucking around with a webnovel for a while, maybe making some cash on the side via "pay me $5 on batreon to read ahead of public release."
>>12214986Yes, because it is.
>>12214986Some of these fucks started praising the GZDoom logo, lol.
>>12215018>Aiming too high from the get-go and then not making anything in the end is the issue.You must love this board, nearly twenty years of unreleased and unfinished TCs, damn that Selaco for tempting them all like a modding succubus.https://forum.zdoom.org/viewforum.php?f=19&sid=bd6efa694c3f959a59026574cc899919
>>12214986Bitches don't know bout my any% goose.
>>12214986I keep forgetting source ports even have logos... I just never see them on loonix
>>12215028At this point you have to be disingenuous on purpose, right? Surely nobody could be this retarded.Do I really have to repeat my point for the gorillionth time? I mean that a guy who would have made "Ambitious Weapon Mod A" and then "Weapon+Character Mod B" and then, THEN maybe a "weapons, character, and enemies suite mod C, seeing gzd-based games on steam, that guy is now more likely to figure out the basics and immediately think "hey why don't I try making a game like those other guys" and then he might finish the basic gameplay portion which would be a great weaponset mod, but he won't release it because he thinks of himself as "le real game dev"Naturally we see the opposite taking place with stuff like Siren, which is pure kino, I love SirenBut my point is the ecosystem is being affected by commercial gzd projects in the public eye, and you can't refute that because it's a self-evident truth.
>>12215042correction/addendum>but he won't release it because he thinks of himself as "le real game dev," not as in "i'm too good for mere modbabbies" or whatever, but as in "i will finish it, it's done when it's done okay," but it's never done and never released
>>12215050and yes this has always been an issue, but it's being exacerbated
>>12215042>I mean that a guy who would have made "Ambitious Weapon Mod A" and then "Weapon+Character Mod B" and then, THEN maybe a "weapons, character, and enemies suite mod C, seeing gzd-based games on steam, that guy is now more likely to figure out the basics and immediately think "hey why don't I try making a game like those other guys" and then he might finish the basic gameplay portion which would be a great weaponset mod, but he won't release it because he thinks of himself as "le real game dev"If only the Wool Ball developer had released gameplay mods.
I'm starting Build engine games tonight with The Duke. Which is better for a first-time playthrough, BuildGDX, Rednukem, or something else?
I'm trying Quake4. Lookin' good.
I'm not a fan of GZ commercial releases, period. I understand the why and how, I just don't like it that what was a space more focused on just making cool shit has been tainted by the idea of commercializing your hobby for clout or cash. In practical terms this isn't a big deal since 90% of mods will default to being just mods, but I dislike the idea on principle and am surprised no AA studio from outside the immediate Doom space tried pulling a fast one by using GZ.I imagine it exists in this limbo because GZ is just stupid compared to a proper engine made for powering game, rather than a cludge of a software that can do that and play a game older than most people who use it.That said, I'd still buy a hypothetical game if it was handled like Rekkr. Most of it is free, so the tone goes from "buy my shit" to "help me out and you get more of this thing you might like".
shit, I ran out of ammo
>>12215096>I imagine it exists in this limbo because GZ is just stupid compared to a proper engine made for powering gameBetter off with Godot or Unity or anything else than the disgusting shit you have to do, to achieve crap that's simple in engines built for making games with.
if an autismal german is fighting a tranny, i'm with the autismal germanif a chud is fighting a tranny, i'm with a chudif a brown "person" is fighting a tranny, i'm pro palestine o algoif the most vanta black negroid is fighting against a tranny, i support blmuzdoom (or troondoom as i like to call it) is garbage and always will be>rachel
>>12215126>uzdoom (or troondoom as i like to call it) is garbage and always will beI dunno why they didn't take the obvious opportunity to call it UwUzdoom
>>12215137Weebs are already sorted for ports.
Playing MSX is always bittersweetMagSigmaX, where are you now? If nothing else I at least hope he's doing well and isn't dead like TiberiumSoul.
>>12215110had to play from a prevoius level's saveotherwise idk how to kill him
>>12215139I like NyanDoom. Name is a bit cringe but it werks well.
>>12215142why are you posting gameplays on FUNNY JUNK DOT COMi don't want to see doom on my racism siteinb4 muh containment breach
>>12215169Post them on ebaumsworld instead.
>>12215126Eating broken glass kills trannies
>>12213690>>12214194Guess I should download it then. I keep overlooking it.>>12213825When you do that, could you include something like a text file with all the damage types that the monsters have pain and death states for? For compatibility with weapon mods, patches and the like.>>12214910Daemon_Toolz?
>>12215263>Daemon_Toolz?That's the one, yeah.
>>12215225nice try rachel
>>12215269Well, shit. Was he just considering or is that a thing that's definitely happening now?
seriously cool
Anybody played Pipicz's wad? Is it good?
Hey anons, updated Operation Deabolt to V2.>https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/155013-mbf21-operation-deadbolt-v2/And a friend made a map with it.>https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/156264-chaos-below-mbf21umapinfo/I'm gonna lie down now, sinusitis got the better of me and while it's clearing up, I'm still feeling like shit and have what feels like a fever and got a pretty bad headache.Have fun, anons.
>>12215281He was talking about his plans for it on a recent dev stream.>>12215302Nice, I hope this causes more gay panics than ever by clearing things up.
>>12215302Hope you feel better soon bro.>Map by Ash to go with it.Fucking awesome!
>>12214057Will definitely let them know then. Im really just waiting for the other lads to get back to working on it so i can finish the AI stuff i was doing for the enemies that Tib asked me to do.
>>12215263>text file with all the damage types that the monsters have pain and death states for?see thats what i was tryin to think of how to redo. in PB we moved away from actor based hitboxes for all the shit like that, instead everything is handeled from the bullet projectilesif i do the same hitbox detection system from the bullets on the enemies instead i should be able to replicate all of that without the need for extra damagetype patches
What is your favourite INTERPIC+MIDI combination? Mine is probably Memento Mori 2. This hand looks badass.https://files.catbox.moe/80hpia.midOn the offtopic: why doesn't 4chan allow webms with sound on all boards?
>>12215375Highway Acelleroid Booster
>>12211460Tomb Fetus has been released.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LXVsqIrM4wg
>>12215110The Devastator in that level is easily missable because it's tucked behind an early monster closet that I barely even know how to trigger myself (in the same room as the very first secret)
>>12215390Dude no fucking way. That was one of my never evers I was waiting on. As far as I was aware, they've been radio silent for a while.
>>12215413I'm happy for him. It's been something I've been keeping tabs on myself for a long ass time, I loved getting to playtest to this shit.
>>12215323Welp, there's always High Noon Drifter.
>>12214938sounds like a cross between wario and francis from l4di like it
>>12215390what the fuck is this shit
>>12215423I was really happy to do something nice for Batandy, the dude's done some cool shit for me and I love his games.Also I don't know what I'll do for younger Roland. Older Roland is definitely going to be a hell of a lot angrier, and have a cool cyber-ized voice.
>>12215430It's a goofy arena shooter with some Smash 64 aesthetics. Very solid arsenal.
>>12215096it always rubbed me the wrong way but as you said, the best way to handle it is to treat it like a tip jar
>>12214393>TNT map08Great level
>>12215390It's happening!
>>12215390>Tomb FetusLol how did they come up with that title??
>>12215491reddit humor
>>12215375>On the offtopic: why doesn't 4chan allow webms with sound on all boards?Nobody knowsHistorically I believe there was some worry that neerdowells would post screamers in every thread.I expect the current reality is simply to keep costs down.But even if it is not I also expect the true reason will never be revealed as it would be a public relations disaster.
>>12215502Hmm, strikes me more as SA goon shit. Haha, dead babies, lol.
>>>/v/727282808sandy buckbroke another
Anyone else playing the Doom collection on PS3? That's how I've been playing it. I've played through...>Ultimate Doom>Doom II>TNT>Plutonia>Master Levels>No Rest for the LivingI love them all, but TNT is overall my favorite. I like the bigger mazy levels tech base/city of Doom II and TNT just takes that to the extreme. Plutonia is hard as fuck and has some really good levels, but too many monster closet deaths to learn for my liking. Ulitimate Doom was fun, but after playing the others and coming back to it, it's just too basic and I miss the new enemies, SS and the more complex creative levels.Doom II is amazing all the way through, and gets very hard to pistol start in the later 1/3.Master levels have some of my absolute favorite and most memorable levels in Doom, like Attack on Titan, Titan Manor, Bloodsea Keep, The Elevator and the Black Tower. No Rest for the Living is also amazing with probably some of the most tightly well-made levels ever, like Vivisection and The Earth Base. Maybe the hardest levels in the game too, especially on pistol start. I could barely do all of Doom II pistol starts on UV. Thanks for listening.
>>12215519I think he's replied sincerely to a satirical post.
>>12215491I thought it was just looking for words that also fit "TF" because Team Fortress. Forget what the connective tissue there was.
>>12215519Legitimately, what is his deal?
>>12215535>TFLol fuck me I never made this connection.Brb, hanging my head in shame.
>>12215538He stopped giving a fuck after years of getting piled on by people, especially by the weird as fuck parasocial fanboys of an imagined ex-id rivalry.
>tfw didnt have time to finish UV-fast Doom 2, Blood, Sub mortem, hot potato 99 before Dec 1 Welp Winter Fury here we go
Played through Vae Victis of dbp28The monster count had me worried at first it would be slaughter but no just a hefty map, helluva runaround
>>12215535this game and open fortress share a few devs, OF had a map from TF before TF was even out.
>>12214159seethe harder
After experiencing another mapjam level that forces an axe-start upon you by somehow giving you -25 shotty shells the exact moment a map finishes loading, I would like to know how exactly that effect works and if it can be replicated with all other ammo types.
>>12214845>super stripped back dehacked-based mods becoming all the rage lately?>It feels like doom modding is purposely regressing technicallyIts probably worth noting that dehacked has actually made a lot of advancements in the last 5 or so years with DEHEXTRA and DSDHACKED, alongside MBF21 being a new complevel standard. Whats possible now certainly wasn't back when Eviternity 1 came out.
>>12215624I'm sure the new standard will make great strides and achieve impressive thingsbut at the same time I feel that the fundamental nature of the standard will prevent it from doing much of the cool stuff that I enjoy seeing in doom mods.I don't see something like... Idk, Siren? Pillowblaster anything? Insert any random "whooooa this is doom" slopvideo bait mod here.I don't see that kind of stuff being done with dehackedno matter how fancy it gets, due to the complevel restrictions.
>>12215628Maybe when the next new complevel happens. Whenever that may be.
>>12215571Ah, I didn't know about the map. I knew about the Tomb Fetus announcer, but not the map nor the shared devs. Speaking of, those Open Fortress guys need to get it together and actually release something already. At this point, the novelty and interest in TF mods being publishable is quickly waning.
>>12215390Anyone feel like playing this tonight? Could throw up a server in an hour or so.
>>12212327I just remembered. You could try Hell-Forged weapons. Either the official release or mine.
What is the best DBP?
>>122157840
>>12211459How can I make Doom play more like Touhou?
>>12215794Their is straight touhou doom mods you know?
>>12215795There is no such thing as a straight 2hu mod
>>12215807Oh you.
>>12215807https://youtu.be/e02by6SMsVM Literally this, get spoon fed ya moron
>>12215139Sell me on Nyan Doom.
>>12215812Anon you missed the joke. He's implying Touhou is gay.
>>12215813It's to Nugget what Crispy is to Chocolate.
>>12215816Fuck, damn, guess I am the fool, I guess I didn't get it being someone who has been a fag, well time to hang myself.https://youtu.be/XSmP4l3DLoY
>>12215297I think it's very good, it's one of my favorites.
>Duke It Out in /vr/>Game : DN3D | Deadline : Jan 1st 2026month left, anyone still working? I'm the sneed anon
>>12215820to dsda you mean?>>12215848I learned how to make a room in mapster32 today :) Now i can't figure out make a ramp
>>12215865*how to make a ramp
>>12215848>Duke It Out in /vr/I forgot that was even in the news post.Didn't the lead basically get called out as being the MM8BDM shill, sperg out claiming he's not, and announce the project was over?I haven't seem him since, and that was like weeks ago now.
>>12215884>Didn't the lead basically get called out as being the MM8BDM shill, sperg out claiming he's not, and announce the project was over?The hill he ended up on was being adamant about having Not Even Remotely Fair in the new infograph, a wad worked on by Peter Lawrence who also worked on the MM8 mod. That coincidence (or not) ended up with some memery on his face.He also was saying that if the Meganons "weren't behaving" that he wouldn't include it in the image iirc, so he put himself in a weird spot overall.
>>12215848If I was good I would make a penthouse paradise 2 map but looking forward to playing
>>12215865>>12215869duke infosuite and eduke wiki page on keybinds is a must. Later down its just muscle memory.For slopes use [ ] , but slope builds from a 'firstwall', those are set by looking at it and pressing alt+F. Press f4 in 2D mode to display firstwalls. I can't babysit anons so look up that infosuite and all basics on youtube. The hardest for me was early weeks when I was still learning
>>12215973Damn that looks complicated.
>>12215491Meant to sound like a butchered "Team Fortress"
>>12216042yeah, its from Weather Report, 2 different buildings occupying same space, a hotel above and strip club in basement. When editing there are tools to hide stuff I don't need, so that way I can edit either one of the areas. Still, not even close to some stuff from Ion Fury
>>12211460[12-1] Turok 1&2 updated. Engine updates, crossplay, bug fixes, and removes the old Acclaim introhttps://steamcommunity.com/games/405820/announcements/detail/491583942944621250https://steamcommunity.com/games/405830/announcements/detail/492709842851464086
>>12216096>removes the old Acclaim introsovlless
>>12216139They sure have been learning from Bethesda.
>>12211546i hate how PB 3.0 nerfed the dragon's breath. you could've cleared an entire hallway with it back in 2.0.the only thing i hate more than that is the weapon inspect animations YOU CAN'T TURN OFF every time you pick up a weapon for the first time. like seriously who thought that was a good idea?
>>12215578What mapjam? I see the map name, sq4. I can decompile it and check out what's happening. You can too, but I don't feel like explaining how you can do that just now.
>>12216219I don't really mind because when you got DB the other shotguns become really useless. Then again, trying to balance an arsenal of that size is a fool's errand.
>>12216219Weapon respect animations are cool. You can also skip them by switching weapons or just firing.
>>12215528RESPOND TO MY BLOG POST!
>>12216229Better to put them on a full ammo reload than to have them coming up every time you pick up a gun.
What is the most "Chuuni" Doom wad or mod? Serious question. The Dies Irae of Doom if you will.
>>12216250My ps3 isn't hooked up, I've been playing fore/vr/ alone on ps5 though
>>12216223>I don't really mind because when you got DB the other shotguns become really useless.auto shotty's alt fire is arguably stronger than the DB in 2.0 and can ricochet but the trade off is that you burn through more ammo and unless you got the drum upgrade for it takes about as long to reload as the pump shotty.base super shotty in 3.0 is the gun i feel makes all the other guns useless as it can kill most monsters in like one to two hits. meanwhile the quad barrel upgrade for it feels more like a downgrade.>>12216229>>12216257or just have them trigger when things are quiet like how nu-DOOM does it.
>>12215528>>12216250k
>>12213868>true open source>doesn't have every change through one guy>vibe codeIf you don't understand there's no need to comment on it.
All in favor of tossing UZ/GZ shitposters in a boiling pot of shit?
>>12216337Seems like you may be having a gay panic.
>>12216337To be fair, at some point modders and end users will have to decide which one to use.
>>12216363We've probably got a year or more of near perfect parity, in the long run UZDoom will probably win out since that team were the ones getting shit done for the last few years with GZDoom, and also you got some pretty big name modders saying they're just going to target UZDoom, especially when 5.0 is out.
>>12215302>bespoke map to take full advantage of a mod's featuresGood. There need to be more of these.
>>12216337okay but you go first
>>12216337...as long UZ will add d64 features (like the way that GEC did it) and i will apologize
>>12216363I'm disinclined to switch at the moment, myself, because I'm not really wanting to do all my .inis again. Unless I can just rename them to uzdoom_portable.ini or whatever and just have it work. Also I need to see what the modders I like end up doing.
>>12216484>Unless I can just rename them to uzdoom_portable.ini or whatever That does work, yes.
>>12216487Neat-o. A later date, then.
>>12216484>because I'm not really wanting to do all my .inis again. Unless I can just rename them to uzdoom_portable.iniThat all works, you can also still do the same as every other ZDoom-based port of using the -config launch command to point to whatever ini you like so long as there's no spaces in the location.
>>12216510Dev? UZDoom Zandy multiplayer or I won't switch.
>>12216562How is your standard of knowledge so abysmally low that you can only imagine a sourceport developer would know about a basic feature that's been around for decades?
>>12216580UZDoom Zandy multiplayer or I won't switch.
Any WDC/Chaos edit geeks here? I am trying to look at the graphics for a Wolf3D mod (this is the mod https://www.moddb.com/downloads/wolfenstein-3d-30th-anniversary-edition) but the developer somehow managed to (I think) decrypt the god damn graphics (how the fuck do you manage to do something like that for a Wolf3D mod?) Anyways, any anon's know how I could possibly rip the graphics with the correct colors?
>>12215547>the weird as fuck parasocial fanboys of an imagined ex-id rivalryThose faggots are the worst.>>12215531>>12215531>I think he's replied sincerely to a satirical post.Who can tell anymore. The internet monetized people being retarded. If you're not retarded on the internet you're missing out on engagement bux. Now post your most half baked drunken hot take NOW.
>>12216258DemonSteele is the obvious pick for being literally inspired by those embarrassing "all black with a katana" weebs, but I'm actually going with Soulcrusher.>his name is JACK DARX code name SOUL CRUSHER hes a badass soldier who kills he was the son of an evil dictator but after finding out his dad was evil and killed mom he said FUCK YOU and shot everyone with 1000 guns his brother became evil too and killed him but he was brought back to life as a mutant and killed everyone then shot him 1000000 times in a really shitty boss fight with too many invincibility periods before disappearing into obscurity to ensure history was free from the curse of his bloodline
>>12216673>DemonSteele is the obvious pick for being literally inspired by those embarrassing "all black with a katana" weebsIf anything he's rolling with it harder in Daemon Toolz.
>>12216096>>12216139>>12216213Apparently they had to remove it because Acclaim somehow returned and is now physically existing. You'd have to physically unmake it for the old intro to come back.
>>12216739Probably means they don't want to pay Acclaim anything for selling the game and they're worried about having to do so if their logo's in it.
Just played Doom for the first time.It's pretty fun. The only gay part is looking for the exit in some maps for several minutes after killing everything.
>>12216810You should play Descent.
Just in time for the holiday (singular)
>>12216221 Well I don't mean this level in particular, the map I recently played with that gimmick was Midnight Hunting from the SnackPack3 mapjam - and to be frank, all maps with this feature seem to be part of some prior mapjams from the Quaddicted Discord. I would assume that it's probably some custom 'give' script being used to cause that forced disarment, as upon the instant that map loads you can open the ~console to see a message "You recieve -25 shells" print itself before you even get spawned into the level first.
>>12216854Dawg all you had to do was look at the description. It uses Copper, a Quake mod with more features than vanilla.
>>12215139this looks like the nortubel of source ports
>>12216258I've always wanted to make some mod that was really retardedly edgy on purpose, like for fun.>doomguy has white skin and long black hair>black eyeliner and piercings>black trenchcoat, chains, spikes>visible scars and bandages on his wrists in first person>idle fidget animations showing him cutting himself with a razor sometimes, which spawns spurts of blood>razors also serve as healthbonuses>dialogue lines about how black his soul is and how nobody understands his pain, fuck you dad, etc
>>12216874How do these sound familiar to me, both project's name and the nickname... Hmm, can't remember
>>12215528I did actually dig out my PS3 over the weekend, but I don't use it for its Doom ports because I don't think they're particularly good. Been having a blast replaying Saint's Row 2 though.God, I have so many good fucking games on that machine, my PS4 hasn't been a fraction of the value and there's STILL no reason to get a PS5.Barring some of the ports I picked up over the years though, that's however NOT RETRO.>>12215848I have faith in you guys. Hell, you took over after the other guy quit, so if all else fails you could reassess the situation in January, you're the boss now.
>>12215754These look really cool, I think I used them at some point and forgot. What's your release?
>>12216942Right here.https://files.catbox.moe/4c3jmq.zipRead this.txt has all the info but basically it includes HyperExia's changes, a bunch of the sounds from the sound pack, some polish here and there, and is overall much more organized. Oh and it also has full Heretic and HeXen support.
Love to see it.
>>12216904so basically this but first personhttps://store.steampowered.com/app/341940/Hatred/someone did try to make a TC but gave up https://www.moddb.com/mods/hatred-tc
>>12217034But against demons.
>>12217034Tinges of Hatred, but more gothic, and not about idolizing school shooters.
>>12216860So is it something exclusive to Copper mod that cannot be replicated with Progs_Dump3? I ask because IIRC all of the aforementioned ax-only maps that did such trick were made with Copper in fact.
>>12217064Oh no, pd is definitely capable, as are AD, Drake, Keep, I imagine Alkaline and Sacrilege, I haven't checked their devkits much.Pic related is from the pd_3.0 manual.https://quaketastic.com/files/single_player/mods/progs_dump_manual_300.pdfWhen loading progs_dump3 in Trenchbroom, and selecting a worldspawn entity, look for the "reset" key value. I'll screenshot and post in a minute.
>>12217064You may know this already, but just in case, PD is unique because what dumptruck_ds made pd for was for modders to have a really decent foundation before trying to make their own mod in case they don't want to use AD, or what have you. Problem is you'll need to learn QuakeC.
>>12217074>>12217078To further the point, Violent Rumble 2 was built on pd, and so has the reset key value.
>>12217059Also, I realize now that I'd also want a second playable character, who's also edgy, but would be a foil to the edgyboi because instead of being completely miserable (no colors anymore I want them to be black), he'd be more Nathan Explosion, actually enjoying life and having a good bond with his loving parents.He appreciates how kvlt and metal his friend is, and his edgy sense of humor, but also considers him a real downer. Together they kill demons.
>>12216924>I have so many good fucking games on that machineDon't be ridiculous, everybody knows PS3 has no games.
>>12217108That used to be true, but that title was passed on to the PS4 and then the PS5.PSX, PS2, PS3 (eventually), loadsa games I wanted, PS4, like one or two, and then PS5 still has fucking nothing after all these years, as if the PS3 had been stillborn.Console gaming used to be fun.
>>12217074>>12217078No one remembers Quoth… the original made-for-modders devkit - it has pretty extensive documentation too and the custom monsters and other additions are really soulful, plus the plasma gun has a much more kino model than the AD one
>>12217235Naw I just didn't mention Quoth because to my recollection it doesn't have a reset trigger or worldspawn key.
I dont usually mind big maps but 2200 monsters is a bit much my man. I will finish Doom 2 city only. Somehow.
>>12211459any mods broken by uzdoom yet?does high noon drifter work?
>>12217297All of them, they decided we needed a clean slate so they broke all mods.
>>12217308That's fair.
>>12217286D2ICO pushed me away by map 05, it seems everyone and their mother chose to make massive maps. I like me a big map, but most of the pople who took part in that project don't seem good at making *fun* big maps.>>12217235>the plasma gun has a much more kino model than the AD oneDebatable. Damn thing looks like a circumcized dildo.>>12216904Kinda reminds me of the Crow, that would be fun. Someone did try making a mod based on the movie but it's kinda scuffed.>>12215323>>12215328Thanks, anons. I'm doing better today, so it's back to the Trenchbroom mines for me.>>12216379Agreed. If making the mods themselves didn't eat up so much time, I'd love to make these maps myself. It's a great way of answering the question of "why use MBF21 and Dehacked if ZScript exists" and make something that's quite fun in the process.
>>12217089so these two as demon hunters?
>>12217317You probably made the right decision. Fun stops being a priority by map 5. The maps barely look like cities too. I want to finish it for personal reasons. I've been trying to finish it for years, but I always give up out of either frustration or boredom. I'm not having fun now either but I'll get it done this time.
>>12217317>it seems everyone and their mother chose to make massive mapsSo d2ico is stealth cchest5?
>>12217330Maybe, but Nathan Explosion is already halfway towards looking like Notim Portant, so it's more that they're both edgy alt guys, just one of them is a ridiculous faggot about it, but I guess the cheerful guy couldn't just imitate Nathan's voice and design either.Also I haven't watched that show, but hasn't Wednesday Addams generally gotten along very well with her parents? I also don't recall her being very Woe Is Me in her attitude.>>12217317To me, a .wad of mostly small maps with then a couple of big maps is generally a better balance.
>>12217332>somehow, Community Chest has returned
>>12217317While I enjoyed playing D2ICO (in short bursts, I may add), the length of the later maps really started to test me, though. Not to mention map 24 as well, because holy shit is that a miserable experience.
>>12217407>map 24I had to download the idgames version to confirm that yes, that actually made it into the final release.99% of the effort had gone into thinking of the gimmick and the porn site pun name, leaving 1% for making the gimmick enjoyable or fun to play.
>>12217317>the doomed crow>jump is enabled by default>crowguy is immortal as long as crow is alive>crow also fights alongside you (with the anger of a thousand chihuahuas and zero regard for his own personal safety or survival)>crow has his own heath bar>crowguy health can only be as high as crow health, and regenerates to that value>regen rate depends on how close you are to the crow, the closer the faster>crowguy can't heal outside of regenerating>crow heath can be increased by finding crow food and feeding him>this requires getting to the crow>the crow flies
>>12217352>Also I haven't watched that showI haven't either :P
>>12217449Not played it so I had to look it uphttps://doomwiki.org/wiki/MAP24:_Blur_Affinity_(Doom_2_In_City_Only)I don't get the joke
>>12217483Fur Affinity is another flavor of furry hellsite.
>>12217490Oh *that* sort of porn site.When you said porn site my mind went more /s/ than /d/.
>>12216986Hey uh, so what's up with this errorrunning gzd 4.14.2
>>12217556>>12216986OS: Windows 10 (NT 10.0) Build 19045I_InitSound: Initializing OpenAL Opened device IOpenAL Soft on Speakers (High Definition Audio Device) EFX enabledError creating start screen: Start screen assets missingI_InitInputI_StartupMouseI_StartupKeyboardI_StartupXInputI_StartupRawPS2I_StartupDirectInputJoystickVulkan device: INVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070Vulkan device type: discrete gpuVulkan version: 1.4.303 (api) 576.208.0 (driver)Max. texture size: 32768Max. uniform buffer range: 65536Min. uniform buffer offset alignment: 64Resolution: 1920 x 1080I_Init: Setting up machine state.CPU speed: 2904 MHzCPU Vendor ID: GenuineIntel Name: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-9400F CPU @ 2.90GHz Family 6, Model 158, Stepping 10 Features: SSE2 SSE3 SSSE3 SSE4.1 SSE4.2 AVX AVX2 F16C FMA3 BMI1 BMI2 HyperThreadingV_Init: allocate screen.ST_Init: Init startup screen.Checking cmd-line parameters...S_InitData: Load sound definitions.G_ParseMapInfo: Load map definitions.Texman.Init: Init texture manager.ParseTeamInfo: Load team definitions.LoadActors: Load actor definitions.Execution could not continue.Script error, "Hell-ForgedEdit.pk3:decorate/items.txt" line 711:'@property@ACTOR' is an unknown actor property
>>12217560attempting to load the modified release after the base hellforged mod also threw errors
>>12217083>>12217078>>12217074Okay so you need to mod Quake1 in order to do that, what about those homing turrets from The Spiritworld that keep shooting at your coordinates as long as you're in their line of sight - I know those are just severely modified spikeshooters set to fire monster projectiles, but how exactly does this magical hackjob work also if one can ask?
>>12215507I'm glad it doesn't, frankly, it wouldn't add anything.
>>12217702It'd certainly help me when I'm posting screenshot saturday shit that's actively focusing on the sounds for a weapon or feature. Instead I have to link that shit from /wsg/ or catbox.
>>12217707I see your point. That's an entirely valid and beneficial use of it. However it is less responsible uses of it I'm worried about. Not so much screamers as just every board turning into either /gif/ or /wsg/ lite. I like images as much as videos, it would be a shame for them to be shoved to the background.
>>12217710That's true. I'll also admit I'm in the minority in this use case.So a little bit of inconvenience isn't a big deal for me, I'm used to that.
I love Doom.
>>12217778the icon of sin was always lame as fuck and no fan maps ever made it good
>>12217791Would a "fuck it, 4 cyberdemons at once! oooo!" thing have been better? Or a "super" cyberdemon?I honestly think the turbo-archville from Valiant was a better final boss.
Does anyone have any clue what the midi in this is from?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gXH4ydcyQ6ISurely it has to be a midified real song.
>>12217839Midis have metadata, go look at it in Slade.
>>12217847thanks anon, it did have the original in therehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=149o8-dlWx0
>>12217791I give as counterargumenthttps://www.doomworld.com/idgames/levels/doom2/g-i/goatdoomthough I decline to provide illustration of my proposition.
>>12217791D2TWID
>>12217791I thought Eviternity's boss was nice (after you clear out all the enemies). How's the final boss in Eviternity II? Haven't gone past the first episode yet.
>>12217243Hmm it does have an option in worldspawn(?? i think) to reset inventory at start of map, but only to shotgun&axe, no just axe option>>12217317It looks like an oldschool scifi interpretation of a plasma weapon, in line with the crude looking thunderbolt, old ibmlike mainframes and sluggish backpacks, hazmat suits and laser cannons the enforcers have on themAD’s plasma gun is way too high tech and looks like something from Doom
>>12215164Is this the boring DC game with all-white levels and boring pigcop closets?I remember most levels didn't even use respawns, and you go silently to the end of levels without any action.
>>12217947yep. I like it more than Carribbean though. Big fan of that massive Smithsonian map
>>12211459What is it about Habitat that makes it stand out as being so awful? I never played through all of TNT Evilution.
>>12218071Just look at it.
>>12218093I don't' get the hate. Its never stood out to me one way or the other.
>>12217920The boss itself is alright; several color-coded attacks with different patterns that you have to pay attention to, plus either the boss will occasionally teleport around or the map geometry itself shifts for certain attacks which is a nice twist.What dragged the final fight down me is that the boss teleports away between stages and the map unleashes a horde of enemies that are dealt with by simply circle strafing around the arena, which just feels like unchallenging tedium to pad out the fight.
>>12218102It's the thesis of the problems people have with TNT>Long, boring hallways>Uninteresting monster placement>Unclear progression route
>>12217560Aw fuck. I forgot brackets. What a boneheaded mistake. Gimme a minute.>>12217589Yeah, don't do that, this is standalone.
>>12218093The map got so much hate that the guy who made it has never had an appearance in public, but it is just a doom map you can easily skip
>>12218102It's like with people hating the shit out of The Chasm, a lot of them picked up the opinion off some youtuber.
>>12218093Not even half as bad as Baron's Den imo.
>>12218093negative emotional aura doom map
>>12217560>>12218157Okay here, try this one. Loads for me, so it should be fine now.https://files.catbox.moe/k8g7c6.zipAlso gonna share my (version of) a footsteps mod that I use with this and other stuff. It has support for Pvt. Stone's Space Britain floors and the ones in the actual Hell-Forged campaign, so it's good for those too.https://litter.catbox.moe/ernl7t.zip
>>12217791IDK I like how they did it in TNT Revilution.
Is Blast Radius D2ICO of Duke?
>>12218204Very cool, works now. Also makes sense it's much smaller since it's weapons only.Does the heart/painwheel's drain secondary work on monster pack enemies properly? Because it didn't when I tried it with the mod's base version.
>>12217791>>12218112I think its just hard to do a final boss in general. Very much so in a fps, cause how do you build up some cosmic entity that you literally just beat by shooting it, I don't mind as long as the concept is good, I like the mod that turns the icon of sin into a boss you actually shoot at, that one was neat. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BYzeNi-g-mo&pp=ygUWZG9vbSAyIGljb24gb2Ygc2luIG1vZA%3D%3DIt's really cool, its also really funny with certain mods.
>>12218220It should. I don't remember seeing any code that was monster-specific. It just takes a bit longer to add to your ammo than you might think. Like a full second. You can chew through two or three zombiemen-tier enemies before you even get one shot.
>>12218221>play EDay with Trailblazer>one-shot the Icon with AMERICAAlso with HDest. If you make it to the Icon, you basically won and you can just delete him with one or two HEAT rockets.
>>12218245Yeah, I mean least its funny, I one shot him with a funny chicken mod I recorded it but its lost media now, I was a chicken character and used the op lazer he died in one click
>>12218252>a funny chicken modSuper Chicken and the adventures of Wondeer?
>>12211459Lol
>>12218256Yeah thats one, I uploaded it on a random dead media site, it was one of the ones that boasted to rival youtube at the time, so I uploaded on it. The comments were generally. "Idk what I'm looking at but its funny."
>>12218245>rarely use DS' Scorpian rifle>try out its nuke rounds for the first timeFun result. Restarted shortly after to have dual it out using only my Wyvern.
>>12218267What mod is this? The weapon mod is what I'm refering too.
>>12218269>What mod is this?Deathstrider.
>>12218258"Forked under a" is the new "It was n"
>>12218258lol, all of the ZDoom sites were blocking just about every browser except mainline Firefox, Chrome, whatever Microsoft's shit is and stuff on phones/tablets because the forum kept getting botted.
>>12218252Oh absolutely. The 'murica shell flies in slow motion to Chariots to Fire the entire time it's in flight.
>>12218291Yeah I remember beating tnt with trailblazer and colorful doom, it was fun.
>>12218273Didn't know Candlejack was a Doomer, what WADs would he pla
>>12218245The recent versions of Trailblazer have a double-barreled version of it too.
>>12215848the anti-doom troll shitted on the duke anon with his new retarded anti-megaman conspiracy and the duke anon just quit cause he had really thin skin and 0 ability to detect trolls apparently. btw this is most probably the troll >>12215884notice his desperate need to constantly reaffirm his own horseshit framing of events where the bad guy is always the megaman faggot/shill/schizo and any other guy he trolled against>>12216337absolutely. we don't need another retarded drama nobody gives a fuck about.
He's back.
>>12218321Maybe if we don't make any sudden moves he won't shit the thread up.
>>12218296No no no it's much better and more Doom-community-character-related than boring old Candlejack.>After being banned, King REoL posted a thread on the Doom Center forums about how he was going to have Something Awful exposed for the terrorists they were and went into grand stupid detail about it. Then at the end he wrote "Oh, and by the way: it was n".>Lowtax quickly found the post and propogated "it was n" as a King REoL-mocking catchphrase, which lasted for a little while before fading away.>King REoL later had to explain that "it was n" was supposed to read "it was not true" because the entire post was a lie, but he stopped before writing "ot true" as if to leave the reader in suspense, or some equally retarded reason"It was n" -- King ReOL, c.2001"Forked under a" -- Graf Zahl, 2025Thank you for the opportunity to retell a story from the good old days.
>>12217778I hate this shit so much. Arguably the only bad part of classic Doom. So fucking stupid. And btw any more modern game that does ANYTHING similar sucks ass as well.>>12218321>>12218325>oh no I got called out again!>quick, pretend like whoever called me out is the singular troll that we're all trying to avoid and not me >and then use samefagging to create the illusion of consensus Every single time lol. I wonder if anybody still buys your obvious gaslighting
>>12218340I still find it less egregious than the Quake bosses since you're at least using one of your guns.
>>12218312>>12218340Speaking of the gaslighter I was too busy to post here lately but last time I directly posted about how much I hate his faggotry and - as much as I'm surprised to be saying this - I got a very fair 1 day ban for participating in a flamewar with which I actually agree. He wants us to get mad and fall to his level. What should always be done instead is what he pretends to do with the targets of his trolling - never give him (you)s, never respond directly and at most quickly correct his horseshit and move on. Which is what some people in that thread were actually doing so I'm the one who fucked up.I don't know if he got a deserved 5 day ban or whatever the max length for this kind of thing is but if he did we may finally have reasonable mods who are actually helpful. Hope I don't jinx it.
peter "megasphere" lawrence
>>12218347>I still find it less egregious than the Quake bosses since you're at least using one of your guns.It also varies each time. Your success and how you end up killing the Icon varies greatly on what gets spawned. There is at least that.I also feel that can be more interesting than one big fat enemy mob.>>12218372>never give him (you)s, never respond directly and at most quickly correct his horseshit and move onIf you find yourself "drawn into" the conflict, mirror what he and I are doing and also (you) something that's actually pertaining to the thread that isn't whining about "samefag spamming". Ignoring and reporting is still best, though, and has been working for a few months now.
>>12218325Seems it's too late, thread's already cooked, time to go play some more Doom.
>>12218390who is this dood?
>>12218393Man the other HUD for this mod looks so much better, pity it's Nugget only at the moment.
I'm too autistic to not fall for trolling. Spergs have a compulsion to speak truth and correct misinformation which makes us highly susceptible to intentional liars.
>>12218374Peter "Megasphere" Griffin
>>12218394see >>12215302>>12218395I can understand him not going to the extra fuckery of doing an sbarinfo version, that shit's annoying as fuck.
>>12218397UZDoom is a front for a child trafficking ring
>>12218394>who is this dood?Bitterman, the protagonist from Quake 2 as he appears in Quake 3.I'm not sure why the Deadbolt anon was referenced by >>12218412
>>12218440thanks, i never played Q2
>>12218439It's not a crime when tr*nnies do it.
>>12218440Bitterman was an anime femboy, obviously.
>>12218156>boringSubjective>longNigga you're running at like 50 mach>Uninteresting monster placementThat's most of TNT sadly.>Unclear progression routeAbsolute distilled kino. Filtered.
Had a go with brutal v22test4I enjoy the direction, the new chaingun sprite is very much to my tasteStill can't help but feel like v18 was the best as far as enemy behavior
>>12218071Considering its the same author as the fantastic map01 from Icarus, I'm convinced that the map was likely rushed out the door. Its less outright awful, and more just feels unfinished to me.
>>12218397This sounds like the best description of the original megaman autist ever. And to a slightly lesser degree some of his disciples/justice warriors this past year. Not even disagreeing with their general thrust, but they could've done went about it in a more sophisticated way. But for better or worse most of them seem to have either given up or tired or just went back to their actual lives which is why there were less things to trigger the gaslighter. Btw we need some commonly accepted name for him like schizo gaslighter or whatever that people would recognize.>>12218403lol
>>12218556Given that Icarus was presented as an apology for TNT:Evilution, I suspect the fellow was apologizing extra hard.
BTW if I'm not mistaken there were plans for a final version of v9 Doom infographic with reworked description for megaman and I think some other mod.As a potential alternative starting point for the mm8dm description we could use>Zandronum-based total conversion. Contains a vast amount of multiplayer deathmatch arenas, weapons, items, and skins based on the original series of Mega Man games.from the clovr OP link. It's probably too dry as is, but maybe somebody could breathe some life into it.
I don't know if it's just me but I am a little lukewarm on Captain Wayne's Riptide Rampage mode. It takes quite a few waves before things actually get interesting, but then it quickly shifts into an absolute clusterfuck.This frustrates me because I do think Wayne's combat is pretty good.
>>12218563>Btw we need some commonly accepted name for himNo, introducing a bogeyman leads to everyone accusing everyone else of being that bogeyman, increasing the level of noise, not decreasing it. (Not to mention samefags accusing themselves of being him.) The threads went through this for years with Doomkartguy or whatever his name was.
>>12218574Good point though it seems inevitable at this point
>>12218570I still think it should legitimately go under "multiplayer gameplay" and not under "total conversions", but at this point I also believe in just leaving the original image by the original maintainer and encouraging more entries be added on clovr.
>>12218589>>12218589>>12218589>exactly on 600 posts and from the 9th page
>>12218580>I also believe in just leaving the original image by the original maintainerLimey here. Agree with this. Can't even see the dratted thing because it's on imgur.
>>12218601>Limey here. Agree with this. Can't even see the dratted thing because it's on imgur.https://archive.org/details/001-hx-8-vp-w-6/001%20-%20Hx8VpW6.pngFor your reference, just in case.
I think some things are better left dead and deleted, even on page 9. lmao. self-deleted..
https://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1764733093822779.webm
>>12219153We did it, we found someone who would answer "No" to "Do you like Caco?"
>>12218102Awkward and unclear progression, bland combat, flatly lit so it's ugly.
