I've noticed in gaming, but especially retro gaming, there's this accepted critical canon of sacred cows, and any criticism or dislike is immediately dismissed as either "filtered", "zoomer" or "filtered zoomer"Why does it seem impossible to discuss games that isn't just agreeing they're good, that it seems impossible to actually delve into flaws and triumphs without being called autistic for daring to care or a filtered zoomer for not liking something and having design problems?It's like there's this shield or something around games of a certain age that people pretend make them immune to criticismSo what gives
>>12211471What game filtered you, OP?
>>12211471>people who can’t make a coherent argument will instead resort to name-calling No reason to get upset, OP.
Did you know the concrete donkey from Worms was actually based on a statue outside one of the devs' mothers house, they thought it'd be funny so they put it in
>>12211471noone cares filtered zoomer keep your bitching to one thread >>>12206846
>>12211495This nonsense of thinking every single thread is linked by the same person is serious schizo shit that's killing 4chan
>>12211497yeah and zoomers making endless threads saying "good game bad" is really giving life to this pathetic website. the OP hasnt mentioned the sacred cow he has such a problem with, surely it wont be a classic N64 nintendo game
>>12211471Anon I will be sincere. I don't come here to discuss the quality of games.Does anyone want to hear my retarded opinions that Banjo Kazooie missions are bad? No. Do I want to hear people calling Spyro 1 empty or some made up lie about tank controls? No.Most people have had their opinions for two, three decades and have heard whatever you wanted to say a million times. Doesnt help that most criticism are just opinions, like someone not liking turn based games.
>>12211476We usually had a no-donkey rule because it made the rest of the round so lopsided.
>>12211471No one thinks critically about what they're playing because they all play low effort crap. That's what most of retro gaming is. Finding the easiest most casual games of the past which were made for 12 year olds who never played a video game before, and pretending liking those games makes you some wise old man. No one here has been playing games since the 90s, they are all playing catch up, either because they are underage or threw 10+ years of their life away playing mmos and other assorted shitty rpgs, and now have a huge gap in their experience. I think /vr/ ending up this way was inevitable.
It's a bigger problem where little tasteless faggots think insulting proven classics makes them special. It doesn't.
>>12212112But anon, you are the tasteless faggot. There are no "proven" classic and you don't get to shit up every board unchallenged forever.
>>12212158There are no proven classics, but namecalling games perceived by like 75% of people as classics makes you a contrarian retard. You can can DOOM I or II 'slop' or 'unc game' but you have to admit you are a contrarian, and every argument therefore will be labeled as such, because you are in the videogames retro board.
>>12212158>B...b...but...yooouuu!Ha haha ha haaaah.*shuts the file on your thread*NEXT!
>>12211535>Does anyone want to hear my retarded opinions that Banjo Kazooie missions are bad?Maybe? Otherwise what ends up happening is:>Only ever hear praise about a classic game you never played>Try it out>Game either sucks or is good but not as good as the praise you heard>Go to a retro gaming discussion board to ask: "Is there something I'm not getting here? Wasn't this supposed to be the best game ever? Because right now I think this or that sucks because of this and that and...">Be met with: "I don't come here to discuss the quality of games." or "Fuck off zoomer, we don't want criticism, we're here to circlejerk about nostalgia" or "this game is obviously good since everyone thinks so" which explains why you never heard a lot of criticism about it in the first placeOf course there are also retards who come here saying something good is outdated or clunky as if these words mean anything which is the other side of the coin.
>>12211471>there's this accepted critical canon of sacred cowsInitial error.
>>12211471>it seems impossible to actually delve into flaws and triumphs without being called autistic for daring to care or a filtered zoomer for not liking something and having design problems?Because the "criticism" sounds like>X game actually sucks ass! Plz reply 2 muh thread and I'll call U mad lolololol!If you actually make points like "the tedious weapon upgrade system has little impact" or "the platform edges don't line up with what's shown visually" then no one is going to call you filtered or whatever.
>>12212516But even when people make actual legitimate criticisms, it's dismissedBut it's not dismissed with modern games, modern games are subject to absurd microscopic scrutiny for some reason, yet retro games get a pass on every design choice
>>12212549Just remember that the board is many people.First of all, it's 4chan, so you should expect shit-flinging. There are angry dudes who come here just to try and make other people mad.And this board is full of 40 y.o. guys who failed everything in life so they get upset when someone says their favorite childhood escapist software toy isn't absolutely perfect. Then there are the console warriors who say anything on the console their mom didn't buy them 30 years ago is shit.Just ignore those guys, there's plenty of real discussion hidden in here.
>>12211471I don't know how you didn't know that 4chan attracts a large amount of autistic people.
>>12211471The average iq is 100, and half of all people are below that. People don't care to think about things. They just want to feel good all the time, and instantly categorize things as good, bad, faggotry; what have you. There's no room for nuance for the average individual. For instance, I prefer SMB All Stars to the original because the night stages are beautiful with those twinkling stars. A lot of that is nostalgia, but man, so damn pretty. There are tons of people who swear off SMB All Stars because of the changed physics, but I can't care about that at all.There's another lens too: A lot of the things people dislike about anything, including video games, are just somebody voicing their preferences as opposed to viewing what they're criticizing through any objective lens.And finally, some things just aren't worth discussing if A, you don't put your name to it, and B, if discussion doesn't get traction.A: If you think your thoughts are worth sharing, if you think it's worth creating a space for people to disagree or agree with you, then making a youtube video essay is genuinely a great idea. Discussing things anonymously is very inconsequential in the long run, because these threads get bumped off the catalog and archived where nobody will read them ever. If you feel strongly enough, OP, put out video essays.B: Even if you did put out a video essay, and it didn't get many views, well then the subject just doesn't mean that much to many people, and so it dies with you. That's just natural selection. Follow this same logic for trying to discuss things on 4chan. If I made a thread wanting to discuss why MGS1 has the best tone in the series, and I got maybe 5 posts calling me a fag or even agreeing with me but not much else, and then the thread gets pruned, well that's that. The idea wasn't good enough to survive further discussion.Go write your essays on games you love or find flawed, anon. Put some footage to them. See what the world thinks.
>>12211471yea because no one has ever heard your retarded criticism before
>>12212235>There are no proven classics, but namecalling games perceived by like 75% of people as classics makes you a contrarian retard."For what thought or wisdom have they? They follow the poets and take the crowd as their teacher, knowing not that there are many bad and few good."the vast majority of people are absolute retard,some popular stuff is good but not everything popular is great.
>>12212047I was funny when I played a forts round in WWP with my brother and I got it in a random crate while all his worms were almost perfectly lined vertically for some reason - 1 turn win
>>12211471In the world of anonymous samefags, autistic schizos, and console warriors your super special journalism is trolling until proven articulate. Until you share the entire library of games you've experienced, your age, your race, and the hundreds of other games youve critiqued and how youd rate those you are essentially a chatgpt proxy and everything you say is completely worthless. tldr get filtered zoomer.
>>12214204I have played and mastered every single game on every single platform and the only good game ever made is Tetris The Grandmaster 2 Plus
>>12212549>But even when people make actual legitimate criticisms, it's dismissedAnd why shouldn't it be? Do you think every old person wants to read about Zelda or Doom AGAIN? If somebody absolutely must be the billionth person to catalogue the dry old bones of Super Mario Bros. 3, why should anybody receive the result positively by default, unless it really is an extremely and rarely well-done piece of analysis? There are thousands upon thousands of games that are rarely or never even mentioned here, let alone criticized. Why can't you people choose one of those to pick apart and talk about at great length? Why must you subordinate yourselves endlessly to popularity by pretending you can only talk about the sacred cows, even as you whine about how others are paying too much attention to those same sacred cows?I love old Mario games and I would be satisfied NEVER AGAIN to read about them on /vr/. I've read enough. You don't need to complain in front of THIS Mario fan that Mario is getting too much praise. Talk about something else instead and you won't get a single complaint from me. My childhood memories are not constraining you. YOU have chosen to create yet another thread (this present one) focusing on the sacred cows.
Another masterpiece from Rare Coin-it inc! Bravo Stamper, bravo!
>>12214568>oh my science unless it's heckin novel and new I don't want to hear itb-b-b-b-back to plebbit then
>>12215425Based
>>12211471I mean you say that but a couple years ago various youtubers were taking turns figuratively beating Donkey Kong 64 with a stick.
