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DOOM THREAD / RETRO FPS THREAD - Last thread: >>12223874

Doom/Quake/Duke/Heretic/Hexen/Unreal/Sam/Half-Life/etc
Gameplay, WADs/Maps/Mods, Source Ports
All other 90s FPS welcome
~ Let's post like gentlemen ~

FAQ/GENERAL GUIDE
https://rentry.org/vrbin

SO YOU WANT TO PLAY SOME FUCKING DOOM
(or Quake, Duke, Marathon, Deus Ex)
https://imgur.com/a/wB0psIa

Same thing, in video format:
https://youtu.be/ietb4JwaaXA
https://youtu.be/DhOjleMqwdQ
https://youtu.be/CGj4gXyCzg0

== GAMES/RESOURCES ==
DOOM Quickstart (IWADs etc): https://mediafire.com/file/wuniyrhsjjgq4y8
QUAKE Trilogy FAQ: https://pastebin.com/Ucb11XhU

PortaDOOM:
https://github.com/Kroc/PortaDOOM/releases
HALF-LIFE (GoldSrc) Anthology:
https://mega.nz/file/GRUCGbAY#RhOiqxnf7UPOiXcJNbRh-prKIEVRhjJaEpAkt34lyZg
4CHAN DOSPACK + Win98 games:
https://mega.nz/#F!3t8nzSIS!947kyMN6Z80f8HS7q2XlqA

Assorted /vr/ shooters, mods, etc:
https://mega.nz/#F!QXIk1bjB!NHRWGIfjcc77PyGgRlga4Q
https://mega.nz/#F!GtEQTISJ!CCJGyPEEEsZasc1PMXicUA

MIDI COLLECTIONS
https://files.catbox.moe/2hul76.zip
https://mega.nz/file/dWQ3SThI#qYcpa4eGQj6ElyRZgjGqszR59dh4Fq9D3qXYee54kZQ
https://archive.org/details/archiveteam-geocities-midi-collection-2009
https://archive.org/details/midiru-archive-2022-02-25.7z

== INFO/LINKS ==
OFFICIAL DOOM WIKI
https://doomwiki.org/

WHERE TO FIND WADS
Vanilla/Boom: https://doomworld.com/forum/4-wads-mods/
ZDoom: https://forum.zdoom.org/viewforum.php?f=19
/idgames: https://doomworld.com/idgames/

MODDING RESOURCES
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewforum.php?f=37
https://realm667.com/

== /VR/DOOM COMMUNITY ==
THREAD ARCHIVES
https://desuarchive.org/vr/search/text/"doom thread"/type/op/

OUR WADS/MODS
https://rentry.org/vrdepot

MAKING NEW THREADS PROPERLY
https://pastebin.com/8mDnrsrB

IMAGE/WAD DATABASE
https://vrdoom.booru.org/
https://clovr.xyz/wadsup/
https://files.xvertigox.com/vertigo-archival/so-you-want-to-play-some-Retro-FPS

MULTIPLAYER SERVERS
US West: https://clovr.xyz/
CA/US Midwest: https://macgu.fun/
>>
=== CURRENT PROJECTS ===
Duke It Out in /vr/
Game : DN3D | Deadline : Jan 1st 2026
Tile/Con pack: https://files.catbox.moe/thm4q7.zip
Rules: https://desuarchive.org/vr/post/11835634

=== CURRENT RELEASES ===
SUB MORTEM : A Dead Simple Halloween Project
Game : Doom 2 | MBF21
RC2: https://files.catbox.moe/bdpde1.zip

Deep /vr/ied Potato
Game : Doom 2 | MBF21
RC1: https://files.catbox.moe/3fml1f.zip
Now on iDGames!
https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/?id=21835

=== NEWS ===
[12-06] The Lost Episodes Of Doom MIDI Pack released
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/156327
download lost episodes: https://dsdarchive.com/files/wads/doom/1738/jptr_v40.zip

[12-06] Nugget Doom 4.5.0 released
https://github.com/MrAlaux/Nugget-Doom/releases/tag/nugget-doom-4.5.0

[12-04] The Second Annual Eggowards
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/156308-the-second-annual-eggowards/

[12-04] Blood: Fresh Supply is delisted from Steam.
https://steamdb.info/app/1010750/

[12-04] OldUnreal community patches for UT2004
invite-only testing should begin this month
https://github.com/OldUnreal/UT2004Patches/blob/main/ReleaseNotes.md

[12-02] Skullverse II, a community project of 35 compact maps, released.
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/156277

[12-01] Turok 1&2 updated. Engine updates, crossplay, bug fixes, and removes the old Acclaim intro
https://steamcommunity.com/games/405820/announcements/detail/491583942944621250
https://steamcommunity.com/games/405830/announcements/detail/492709842851464086

[12-01] Tomb Fetus has been released.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LXVsqIrM4wg [Embed]

[11-29] UZDoom 1.14.3 has had a full release
https://github.com/UZDoom/UZDoom/releases/tag/4.14.3

[11-23] Helion v0.9.9.0 update
https://github.com/Helion-Engine/Helion/releases/latest

=== PREVIOUS ===
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-vrTgPGmlLwdO5VHHCJMxmRD05E6XlNmqHIN8aykRG0

TO SUBMIT NEWS, REPLY TO THIS POST
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So to summarize all the retro winter games I got so far:
> Doom Winter's Fury
> Duke Nukem (whatever it's called)
is that it? Obviously listing only good ones
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Yet again with AI slop image.
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>>12231125
It looks better though.
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>>12231128
Trash is always trash.
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>>12231123
And yes I know Blood has a winter ep, but we're talking full games
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>>12231125
At least it was made on page 6, not fucking 4 which is a much worse precedent to repeat.
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>>12231134
It's all just autistic OP wars being waged and everyone involved with them should be banned.
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>>12231123
Really crazy how many retro shootas are great for Fall/Halloween and how little are fit for Winter/Xmas
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>>12231137
because samhain is clearly the superior holiday
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>>12231134
If it's done to preempt shitty Megaschizo bakes then it's okay.
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>>12231113
>>12231114
>== /VR/DOOM COMMUNITY ==
>THREAD ARCHIVES
>https://desuarchive.org/vr/search/text/"doom thread"/type/op/
Please change the space into a plus so the full link becomes clickable with the "Linkify URLs" extension option selected.
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>>12231148
We were going to but someone else beat us to it.
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>>12231147
Anon. Look at the imgur image. This thread is compromised.
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>>12231150
I can see the link, I know.
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>>12231156
Lashing out for being caught doesn't help your cause, bubby-boy.
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>>12231136
The worst part so far is not even the OPs themselves, it's this *mister* who literally samefags insults whenever he doesn't like any minor thing. Anti-doomer or whatever they call him. Which again not even that bad in itself but he always continues to insinuate flame wars until he gets his fill of having trashed the thread
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>>12231157
So nothing was prevented. It happened.
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>>12231147
Nobody cares about your personal autistic vendettas. In this general there are rules for thread creation as well as for general conduct. You break them - you get called out and banned. Simple as.
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>>12231162
I'm talking about the time a normal thread was made sooner before he could. Literally just a few threads ago.
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https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/156337-the-books-in-sunders-archives-of-the-technomancer/
This thread is great. Not all spergs turn into obnoxious trannies. There are still good ones out there, correcting each other's useless trivia with greater and greater precision.
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>>12231163
Well, Megaschizo is the only one who ever gets banned around here.
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>he's admitting to being pocketed
good progress, maybe at some point he'll admit megaschizo doesn't exist and he's solely to blame for shitting up threads.

anyway we need some good winter/xmas OP pics. the last one wasn't winter themed at all, but also I'm pretty sure it was reused. this one is ok but his face is off
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>>12231174
Extremely based autists.
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>>12231181
Kek as always. Everybody knows you're on 200+ VPNs ever since you gave your shitty poll dozens of fake votes. Not even mentioning immediately recognizable writing style that keeps going after mass deletions of your spam.
>>12231123
There were a couple of apparently decent doom mods and one shitty one but I havent played those.
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>>12231137
Hard to do decent snow, and ice physics are pretty shit for the player.
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>>12231163
>In this general there are rules for thread creation as well as for general conduct. You break them - you get called out and banned.
You only get banned for breaking site rules, not "general conduct" ones, those are only called out.
As such, we can call out how it's once again made with low effort AI slop instead of putting in effort to find/make genuine relevant art, how the request for >>12230364 was ignored despite other anons verifying that adding a + wouldn't make much of a difference - and if >>12230472 had baked the thread instead, that probably would've happened - and how the imgur link still has a poor description despite being pointed out repeatedly in the older thread >>12223975 and basically every time it gets used; anyone plugging it either doesn't care enough to know what it actually says, or is just pissing.
Good on waiting to fuck things up until page six, though. One step forward and several steps back.
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>>12231237
I love this picture
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>>12231237
Good pic, shitty post.
Literally nobody even responded to that post about +.
As far as doom info pic not being perfect - neither is v8. When v10 or fixed v9 comes along - we'll be using that one.
Unironically arguing in favor of v8 is at best odd at this point.
But we do need to fix v9 till xmas. Or rather it would be nice if somebody did.
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>>12231237
I was gonna make a thread but I absolutely did not get wtf you meant by "change the space to a plus"? Can you post exactly what that would look like? Next time I make a thread I'll do it.
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>>12231261
https://desuarchive.org/vr/search/text/"doom thread"/type/op/
becomes
https://desuarchive.org/vr/search/text/"doom+thread"/type/op/
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Vandalized OP
Megafag thread
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>>12231113
megatranny op
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Can we not start this shit?
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https://doomwiki.org/wiki/Peter_Lawrence_(MegaSphere)
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>>12231247
>Literally nobody even responded to that post about +.
Just because they weren't (you'd) doesn't meant they weren't responded to:
>>12230372, >>12230375, >>12230383, and >>12230397 were all about it, so you're admitting to not having followed thread discussion.
>As far as doom info pic not being perfect - neither is v8.
What v8 entry incorrectly attributes all the work to one person like what the MM8DM one does? It also took months for the Batman Doom entry to be corrected, and Brutal Doom was under "total conversions" for an equal amount of time.
>When v10 or fixed v9 comes along
No need, the clovr site has you covered.
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>>12231272
This anonymous megaman defender has hijacked the thread op, and yet if I were to repost the thread, I would be the one to get jannied. That's 4chan for you.
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>>12231272
Apparently not, I'm off to do more Winter's Fury, I doubt the thread will improve anytime soon anyway.
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>>12231289
Staff doesn't really care about the politics between Anons. They simply see a duplicate thread and sweep that out.
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>>12231125
fpbp
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>>12231291
That's very gray. Would it have killed him to give some of the lamps a yellow tint or something? Just a hint of chromacity would work wonders. The fog exacerbates the issue.
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oh, bitch bitch bitch.
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>>12231125
He's doing it to farm outrage and then responding to his own posts.
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>>12231380
WF is all gray all day with maybe some blue here or there
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>>12231476
It is kind of the point of the wad.
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New edit. Better than the previous, I think.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=prAoLcZUQRo
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We love Shadow Warrior and smut!
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>>12231542
i liked the previous one more, the crt filter isn't noticable in this one
>ai-generated polish post-punk about nuking blackrock
wew lad
you prolly can't tell but the way ai (suno i assume) shits out lyrics where they're not quite right still affects other languages
good choice using a language not likely to be understood i guess
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>>12231545
I'm only attracted to girls of low resolution who have been forcibly dithered into ill-fitting 8-bit palettes
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>>12231562
Cultured, but short sighted.
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>>12231545
The good ol' days when lawyers/corporate suits were old fucks that didn't understand what a "vidya gaem" was, and you could get away with blatant copyright infringement.

Also funny how back then GiTs/Sailor Moon was the kind of stuff only really known by shut-in weirdos, but now it's an extremely normie thing.
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>>12231562
This one will really get your knobbin throbbin
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>>12231545
That's a censored Lara btw
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>>12231545
It's funny that Usagi is the only girl who treats you nicely. Also, my favorite is the green-haired girl who can't stop farting.
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ITS THE SUNDAY NIGHT SHITSHOW AGAIN and late post ! This time its complexdoom with survivalrespawn waves in anomaly report!

search for "macgu.fun" in doomseeker and the sourceport is Zandronum
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>>12231702
These guys are harmless when you realize they're hardwired to immediately die when primary fire is pressed, regardless of the weapon.
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>>12231702
I didn't even knew they hurt Duke for years. Not long ago one of them instakilled me when I was on 1hp and thats when I finally noticed they slowly suck your cockhealth
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>>12231247
>>12231285
>What v8 entry incorrectly attributes all the work to one person like what the MM8DM one does?
No rush with an answer, by the way.
>>12231289
While still lame, the minor comfort is that the hijacking extends only to the OP and imgur link. It's not like joe got insanely tilted and started hijacking any and every mapping project.
However, I do recall him insinuating that he would also submit maps anonymously as well as his namesake so there's that.
>>12231702
>mighty foot engaged
Least annoying small enemy. However:
>Shadow Warrior bees, aim assist off
Absolutely most annoying small enemy.
>third time's the charm
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>>12231113
>IMAGE/WAD DATABASE
>https://files.xvertigox.com/vertigo-archival/so-you-want-to-play-some-Retro-FPS
This hasn't been here before. Who is vertigo?
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>>12231747
Looks like he did a sneaky in the last sloppa thread and nobody noticed. So much for the OP pasta ostensibly being bloated.
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>>12231747
I just know he used to post here, came back after a long time of not interacting with Doom, saw some anons sperging out over transqueer shit and said he was leaving because the place is full of bigots or something.
I think before that, he offered to host that personally rather than rely on Imgur, which is blocked in the UK or whatever.
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>>12231747
>>12231754
>I think before that, he offered to host that personally rather than rely on Imgur, which is blocked in the UK or whatever.
And that xvertigox is blocked for a lot of people as well, it's the archive that's available for more people so it's more pisstaking. But I'm still going to make sure to copy text from >>12211459 because I didn't realize >>12223874 used it as well.
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>>12231775
If post limit has increased from 2000, then you could add this link instead https://archive.org/details/001-hx-8-vp-w-6
That would take care of UK users blocked from imgur. Just place it where it actually belongs to, in "so you want to play some" on top.
https://desuarchive.org/vr/thread/12183737#12184610 this is the Anon who originally uploaded it.
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>>12231734
>Shadow Warrior bees
They're wasps.
Bees are your friends, wasps are dickheads.
And they make a very strong argument in favour of aim assist.
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>>12231702
useless enemy sure, but they still spook the fucking hell out of me, and im in my 30s, something about how they have that early 3d almost claymation look
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>>12231205
>>12231223
Your "pocketed janny" victimization complex narrative doesn't make any sense, because if someone around here did have that, your posts and threads would get nuked a hell of a lot faster.
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>>12231747
It's a link that has both of latest version of the doom infographic among all the other infographics. It's viewable in the UK and people have been asking to include it for months now.
Pretty straight forward.
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>>12231903
They've admitted before they've no personal interest in the thread beyond them thinking they're an internet free speech activist fighting a corrupt moderation team, this thread just happened to suit their delusions so they latched onto it.
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>>12231903
I'm the second anon you quoted. It's a matter of documented fact that he used to be pocketed precisely because whenever people would make threads with the updated link following all of the thread making rules they would get deleted. Also everybody calling the troll out would get wiped and deleted around him.
I don't think it's the case anymore. I've seen him stop posting for days after mass deletions of his posts.
What's curious is back when he was being pocketed he called anybody exposing it a schizo. But now that he isn't he's actually agreeing with the pocketing narrative because he wants to demotivate anybody calling him out.
Guerrilla tactics 101: appear weak when strong, appear strong when weak.
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>>12231965
I haven't seen those anons post here since like the beginning of summer. Or if they do, they haven't been saying much about moderation. Because mods got changed and now from what I've seen we actually have reasonable moderation. So either they stopped talking about it since it's been solved - perhaps partly thanks to them - or they don't 24/7 this place.
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>>12231974
>or they don't 24/7 this place.
Shows up when there's sufficient drama going on, probably means they're checking it often but don't have anything to work with when it's just "boring" threads discussing games and not doing the thread meta shitflinging.
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>I'm the second anon
>documented fact

Yeah okay, bud.
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>>12231962
>It's viewable in the UK
Pic related from this post seems to suggest otherwise >>12134000 unless someone else here from the UK can confirm.
Additionally, when I've referenced it before, it was frequently pointed out how the anon hosting it pulled a 180 on wanting to stick around here:
>>12169003
>>vertigo
>Said hoster once put an open performance with demonstrative removal of sub mortem resources from their server, a complete turnaround after a purely voluntary act of help with the project. >You may want to heed their following sentiment and not use the link:
>>It's absolutely not worth participating or contributing to anymore.
It's part of what led me to making the new Internet Archive link mentioned by >>12231793
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>>12231903
Doesn't help that people don't know that Global 8 means you can get nuked for crying about moderation you don't like.
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>>12231702
I kinda wish they were more dangerous. As it is, they just silly little guys that sometimes eat your enemies.
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First map of Violent Rumble slaps!
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>>> CLASSIC DOOM CHALLENGE <<<

Record a UV-Max demo of Coldfront Map 02 "Glacier Caper" by Egg Boy (complevel 2)
Reply to this post with a demo & your time.

Wad download and current records:
https://dsdarchive.com/wads/cldfrnt?level=Map+02

Example demo in 6:09:
https://files.catbox.moe/w87ty2.lmp

Previous challenge winner? TNT Map 22 UV-Max >>12218806

Been a good while since I made a challenge. Figured something winter themed would be appropriate.
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>>12231702
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>>12231668
GGs and have a good one
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>>12232125
6:09.80 beats yours in 3 ms :)
https://files.catbox.moe/8secad.lmp
second attempt
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>>12232227
*30 ms
3 is... centiseconds? I don't know the name of this unit even though it's used a lot
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>>12231705
Unless you're holding pipe bomb
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>loads of new duke talk
>thematically redone sprites
Why is there so much work done into the Duke beach expansion compared to the previous two?
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>>12232250
How do people voice duke? Is it the same guy?
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>>12232250
>Why is there so much work done into the Duke beach expansion compared to the previous two?
Budget and development time.
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>>12232252
Jon St John is still around, even if he's got his head stuck up his own ass these days, dude even got caught plagiarizing people's Youtube videos of playing Duke Nukem Forever while dubbing over it as him playing it.
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>>12231113
Always love your thread OP's but not the last few times.
Get your shit together, this is bad AI slop
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>>12232465
it then overflowed and continues decreasing
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This mod has a lore tie-in to a fucking Minecraft web cartoon...?
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>>12232125
>winner by default
De-fault! De-fault! The two sweetest words in the English language.
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>>12232252
>>12232257
I'd love to know if it was him who did the old one which tries to say "kick gum and chew ass" but can't get it out because he's laughing too much.
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>>12232584
It was him that kept losing his shit at the captain's log one.
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Morning folks

> 4chan will be down for scheduled maintenance at 11AM EST on Monday the 8th

If this is finally the moment where they implement UK geo-blocking so they stop getting legal threats that I've been expecting since July and that I read would escalate some time in mid-December I'd just like to take the opportunity to say goodbye to you all, it's been a lot of fun over the years that I was here, I got to do some things that I was very proud of and privileged to be allowed to, so I'm really grateful to you for accepting me, even if I wasn't here all the time for instance when I took a few years off because the google picture captcha was so utterly intolerable but I came back when we got text captchas back, but that's all irrelevant now, good luck with all your future endeavours and projects, I will continue to look out for the names I know from the outside, merry christmas, happy new year, best wishes for the future, and have a nice life.
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>>12232601
Shut up, fish and chips.
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>>12232601
Oh shit that isn't what it is, is it?
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>>12232601
Oi m8, where's yer Doom loicence-- OH SHIT 'E'S GOT AN ILLEGAL SPOON, CALL THE BLOODY SWAT TEAM!
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>>12232603
Funnily enough that was one of my nicknames at school (30 years ago)
>>12232636
Honestly I don't know, merely that upon seeing the announcement my overactive and highly negatively-biased imagination immediately leapt to the worst possible conclusion.
>>12232638
If you put a cyberdemon on the right of this picture you'd have the infamous Wads Of Wads CD cover.
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Give me some obscure pwads that are secretly top tier.
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>>12232474
>Get your shit together, this is bad AI slop
Those have been put together by someone who doesn't like us very much, kind of like this guy https://warosu.org/vr/thread/12060373#p12062896
>>12232601
I'm interested to see what that's about, too. Likewise, it's been fun anon.
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>>12232659
The Sky May Be
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>>12232709
That's not obscure and it's also fucking terrible
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>DUDE LE WACKY MONTY PYTHON VOICE CLIPS AND MEME WEAPONS LMAO
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>>12232601
Wasn't 4chan suing the British government for that?
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Why Duke is Nuke'em, when the one with nukes is Wang?
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>>12232601
I sincerely doubt they'll just put up the geoblock without being upfront about it
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>>12232754
And even if they do they might try and do the 4chan/4channel split again
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Tim Willits was the worst thing to happen to id Software.
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>>12232767
i like q2dm1
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>>12232770
The Edge... home
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>>12232767
Mountain Dew won
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>>12232770
Probably made by his sister.
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I don't know why they opted to not use Enforcers in this expansion
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>>12232786
kickbros...
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>>12232806
i made yours squeal
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>>12232807
They transformed them into either the pooltoy fuckthing I kinda hate, or into the roaming babes, I forget which.
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>>12232659
System Vices, the platonic ideal of weird 90's Doom wads
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>>12232812
I don't have a sister, so that was not a woman you were having sex with, Tim.
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>>12231631
She is making sure that lo wang is killing more youmas than humanly possible for all of those Kuroinu Juu doujinshi
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>>12232806
The Doom levels coauthored by his sister were shit though.
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>>12232807
>>12232813
yep, enforcers are trannies now in this expansion
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>>12231113
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D21Ye-4DO6I
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>>12232601
Something, something, space cowboy.
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>>12232841
I find the Doom and Quake levels credited to Tim (and most likely mostly or even entirely made by Theresa), are generally adequate. Wind Tunnels is probably the best.
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>>12232601
Does it still work for you?
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>>12232912
Still here laddie
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>>12232913
Nice
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Playing through some Blood Marrow. Here's my opinions thus far.
>kinda conservative with enemies, haven't see any blue or green cultists so far
>there's a handful of moments that feel very influenced by death wish
>putting boss monsters in a tiny locked room is a dick move. even with the cheese, i lost a ton of progress because i wasn't savescumming

What do you guys think of it?
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>>12231867
They're hornets, you tiny grasshopper.
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>>12232917
It's fine. I find it strange, almost telling, that it was a big showcase for that Realms Deep event as opposed to something more directly related to Duke.
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>>12232886
I remember overhearing somewhere that Q1DM6 was thrown together in an hour as a mapping showcase for Gabe Newell, the brushwork is *very* crude which fits the story. Theresa worship is absurd and seems to come from Doomworld who for some reason need a #MeToo story to justify hating the games they hate. Did he sneak a NeXT workstation with QuakeEd into their household and paid his sister pennies for level design slavery while lollygagging at the id office? I would believe that he stole authorship of most of the Quake II levels from the rest of the team, given that it was a mess where everyone was working on everything before SVN.
https://dk.toastednet.org/dotPlan/romeroplan_1997.htm
https://d8d.org/plan-archive/?user=twillits%40idsoftware.com&time=888421980
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>>12231867
>And they make a very strong argument in favour of aim assist.
I'm thankful that WangGDX had an autoaim only for hornets option since I usually hate turning it on for an older game unless it's really built for it like Doom's vertical assist.
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>>12232917
95% of blood levels are poorly paced trash. just play Death Wish, it's the very very rare mod that manages to surpass its base game.
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>>12232948
hard agree
Death Wish is basically the Blood that Blood fans remember
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>>12232917
It's okay, I played better stuff. The secret level in ep1 was the only memorable thing about it. I don't know why it's now part of Resupply
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>>12232946
Wang's UZIs are useless without autoaim, as if they were coded around it
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>>12232951
>Wang's UZIs are useless without autoaim, as if they were coded around it
I feel the same towards the riot gun.
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Hell Crusher edit on map04 of Grief Arbiter
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L85e-MxW-3Y

Well, I was going to edit it, but the raw footage turned out to just fit together with the song, so it's mostly unedited
HC is very impressive as a gameplay mod but these Eternal-derived gameplay mods just don't seem to like me, they're exhausting to play even when they're not difficult
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Why does the BFG9000 have titties on it?
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>>12232992
That chainsaw swing animation is terrible, and yeah I agree: That looks exhausting to play.
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>>12232912
Yes it does! I've only tried /g/ and here thus far but I've yet to see any new restrictions. For once I am very happy to have been wrong.
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>>12233013
Double nice!
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>>12233013
Feels good man. I am pretty sure 4chan won't be the problem, Ofcom putting in a heavy handed ISP block or something will be.
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>>12233001
That's a nose.
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>>12232041
>crying about moderation you don't like.
way to lick the boot. except right now there's literally no way to give any kind of feedback about moderation which means people using guerrilla tactics like hiding info in pictures that some were doing this year is actually the only way to do anything about bad moderation.
>>12232016
those posts you/he quoted literally express opposing views. how fucking dumb are you?
>>12231793
>then you could add this link instead https://archive.org/details/001-hx-8-vp-w-6
it doesnt have v9. if whoever maintains it proves his neutrality by adding it, it'll be in the conversation and could indeed replace the newly added link
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>>12232601
Just use VPN, wtf? What are you even on about
Standard practice in third world shitholes like Russia and China
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>>12233039
>https://archive.org/details/001-hx-8-vp-w-6
It felt strange having two nearly identical Doom images back-to-back, and I'm not on board with the current decisions for "v9" so I removed it for now.
Still need more verification on the xvertigox link >>12232018 but the archive is still useful and accessible for the few UK users that care.
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>>12233049
I can't afford one on top of my astronomical Virgin Media bill.
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this thread is legitimate
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>>12231457
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>>12231610
Nani?
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>>12233049
4chan blocks VPNs doesn't it?
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>>12233121
Thats literal fucking nonsense. It's just that so many IPs have been permabanned that most free VPNs cant be used
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>>12233069
I am so glad I do not care about any of that shit
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Anyone here played Siren? I have a text overlaying issue and wanted to know if it's a me thing or a problem with the wad
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>>12232926
>I find it strange, almost telling, that it was a big showcase for that Realms Deep event
Marrow's developer worked at 3D Realms as community manager back then.
>as opposed to something more directly related to Duke.
Of course they would avoid Duke like a plague after having to deal with lawsuits over Scott Miller's shitty deals.
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Yeah nah I ain't posting in an AI thread
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>>12233262
Great. Fuck off.
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>>12233262
You just did, and unfortunately we are at the mercy of one faggot. As seen in this post here:
https://desuarchive.org/vr/thread/12060373/#q12062896

I don't think we have new janitors yet, and if we do they are most likely ignorant of what goes on here, and mod staff doesn't care about any sort of bickering we do as long as rules aren't being actively broken. So we're left with pretty much only two options:
1) Endure it
2) Leave
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>>12233262
It could be worse, there are very obvious self bumping by AI threads on other boards, this is just OP being a faggot.
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Is hell to pay and periditions gate for doom 2 worth playing
?
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>>12233309
As much as any 90s wad that isn't shovelware.
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>>12233309
never played hell to pay but PG is pretty nice and not very long/hard
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>>12233309
In my opinion: perdgate is good to start but it runs out of ideas (or possibly out of development time, they had to rush it to make some market deadline?) past around map12 or so and turns into multiple variations on the theme of the same castle map.
I haven't played hell to pay so I can't say anything about it.
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>>12233321
>>12233325
Alright im gonna download em both. Surprised they arent on id games desu
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>>12233253
>Of course they would avoid Duke like a plague after having to deal with lawsuits over Scott Miller's shitty deals.
I neglected how things were at the time.
https://forums.duke4.net/topic/12402-duke-nukem-now-owned-by-take-2-as-embracer-group-sells-gearbox/ Not sure how better things would be now.
>>12233279
>"here's a good chance this post or all my posts will get deleted... but I bet my bake won't lmao."
>bake AND posts get deleted
A bunch of other innocuous posts were deleted, too, so they were either involved with shitflinging further along in that thread or they too were sir https://warosu.org/vr/thread/12060373#p12062896 That also includes the posts discussing and approving more 'graph updates https://warosu.org/vr/thread/12060373#p12061864
Either way, biggest btfo we've seen in awhile.
>I don't think we have new janitors yet
At least not strictly /vr/ ones. Even this thread has been tidied up https://warosu.org/vr/thread/12231113#p12231156 there's still occasional moderation but not as strict as it used to be.
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>>12233331
because they were commercial sort of
dsda gives less fuck about copyrights:
https://dsdarchive.com/files/wads/doom2/1566/hell2pay.zip
https://dsdarchive.com/files/wads/doom2/3444/perdgate.zip
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>>12233309
Perdition's Gate can be pretty fun, Hell To Pay is ok if you've got the time for it but nothing amazing.
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>>12233337
Thanks I appreciate the links thats awesome
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>>12233279
Yeah, I kinda dipped headfirst into learned helplessness by now. Let this guy sneak a literal monkey porn into the OP with a bunch of communist manifestos if that's where his sheer autism leads to, I don't care at all.
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>>12233341
>monkey porn
>communist manifestos
If it's megaman related I'm sure he would
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Any duke map that keeps me thinking "where the hell do I find the next keycard" to the minimum?
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>>12233262
>>12233279
>>12233341
>>12233346
Anti-doomer talking to himself again
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Aww we didn't get 12233345 itt.
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>>12233353
>giving a shit about le pretty numbers in 2000+5^2
Grow up
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>>12233337
Iirc Mustaine himself declared perdgate abandonware a year or two ago.
(I expect you knew that though.)
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>>12233357
*his
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>>12233356
More like 45^2
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>>12233340
>>12233337
oops that's indeed full perdgate but only a demo of hell2pay
here i zipped full hell2pay from doomkid's pack
https://files.catbox.moe/5129ix.zip
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>>12233357
>On a thread related note please remind me what was the name of that douk winter episode?
Nuclear Winter.
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>>12233375
can somebody spoon feed me the gzdoom of duke?
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>>12233357
>please remind me what was the name of that douk winter episode?
Why do people treat this website like Google instead of trying to find things themselves? If you put "duke nukem winter" into any competent search engine the whole front page will tell you what it is.
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>>12233380
It was also an attempt to rerail the thread back to the designated subject
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>>12233357
>agitating people to report
Manifestos it is. It's a wonder how you function as a person, constantly accusing people of what you do yourself.
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>>12233379
I've heard eduke described as the gzdoom of duke.
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>>12233390
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>>12233379
>>12233391
Wait, it was actually in the last thread >>12228781
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>>12233391
Surely Raze is the GZDoom of Build games.
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>>12233397
hah nice
>>12233402
well its the first one I got to actually fucking work after nblood and some other bs so yeah
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>>12233402
Can't be. Raze is actually the best option for at least one game (SW), so it can't be GZDoom.
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>>12233391
>>12233402
Steam is GZDoom of modern games then
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>>12233402
Hmm, yeah
That's probably a better answer actually.
If you think about it.
More "technically correct" at any rate.
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>>12233402
Wait raze runs duke also? I have that already
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>>12233416
Steam isn't a sourceport that Graf Zahl is in charge of, the other two are.
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>>12233402
Raze doesn't support any duke mods. Shit sourceport
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>>12233428
Haha, imagine a world in which he was.
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>>12233380
>Why do people treat this website like Google instead of trying to find things themselves?
There's been some strange aversion towards search engines lately: Not wanting to doublecheck the authors of mods, not wanting to put in effort to search for relevant winter-themed Doom images and instead reverting to AI garbo...
>an attempt to rerail the thread
My attempt: Posting pics of current gameplay.
>>12233395
>it's afraid dot gif
Hey I remember that image, and that thread, and those deletions: https://warosu.org/vr/thread/12127317#p12135739
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>>12232992
You're gonna have to step it up bro, this is the future of Doom on Youtube.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lhdD-cDB09I
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>>12233461
please keep your slot on on /v/
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>>12233372
Oh hell yeah brother thanks for hooking me up
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>>12233471
>please keep your slot on on /v/
No, the slots are one of the best things to have in these threads.
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>>12233461
Haha okay that is pretty terrible but it could be a lot worse, it uses the proper sound effects and the player can still move quickly when he wants to, it's just layers of graphical nonsense and every surface made of rubber covered in oil or something, and I did laugh when he missed the secret lift and had to noclip up it. Still I don't think we have too much to fear, few will be able to afford the fifiy grand's worth of RAM to make the game look like that any time soon, not enough to flood youtube
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>>12233461
I bet this would go hard with Sneaky Doom
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>but it could be a lot worse
I take that back, it could be a bit worse but it couldn't be a lot worse.
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>>12233335
>I neglected how things were at the time.
To be fair, I don't think there's a good write up on that whole thing anywhere. You can only kind of piece things together if you bother to dig for it.
https://www.androidpolice.com/2016/08/27/duke-nukem-3d-hail-king-collection-current-state-canceled/
>Not sure how better things would be now.
Not by much. Evercade remasters were made when Gearbox was still under Embracer. Since then... Some movie news, I think? Nothing for games and that's for the best.
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played ramp2025 map80, Devil's Ashtray
was impressed and, seeing no clean playthroughs, wanted to record one
computer chokes every time map transforms while recording
OBS doesn't support gpu accelerated capture
sadge
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>>12231114
>Blood: Fresh Supply
doesn't run on my puter, all I get is a nigger screen a noise and nothing else
:(
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>>12233619
> @grok how do I refer to a black screen in a 4chan post?
You're trying too hard to fit in, dude.
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Fixed the description for mega man in v9, go get em
https://limewire.com/d/S6YIv#GE9FmfuCJT

>inb4: durr it's too dick sucky
good, infograph is supposed to make you interested and excited for the wads featured
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>>12233619
why are you using fresh supply to play blood in the first place? Go for nblood instead, will work on anything
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>>12233656
>Limewire
Could you post this on Gaia Online instead?
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>>12233659
Don't be silly, it has to go on ebaumsworld.
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>>12233656
Based, replaced the old one with this.
And yes, I know there's still that gay imgur arrow in the bottom corner, but it again imgur just does this shit, it's not on the image as you can see on the limewire link
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>>12233656
>>go get em
>still in total conversions
See gif. At least it's putting an emphasis on multiplayer.
>>12233657
NBlood, NotBlood, BuildGDX, even DOSBlood, all better options.
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>>12231114

https://files.xvertigox.com/vertigo-archival/so-you-want-to-play-some-Retro-FPS whoever is maintaining this link, please swap v9 for v9 fixed from here >>12233656
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>>12233676
>>still in total conversions
As it should be. It has a single player mode but it IS a total conversion. It's also not even replacing any pre-existing wads, so there's literally no point in arguing against it.
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>>12233685
>It's also not even replacing any pre-existing wads
So you're saying it's not a TC, it's standalone.
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>>12233683
For now until it's fixed there's definitely no point in including that link.
>>12233687
NTA but it's both
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>>12233656
>good, infograph is supposed to make you interested and excited for the wads featured
Then go back and rewrite all of the other descriptions for all of the other entries to keep things fair and consistent.
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>>12233683
>whoever is maintaining this link-
Has peaced out. Follow the thread, dummy: https://desuarchive.org/vr/thread/12104192#12106546 (Cross-thread)
>As it should be.
There are total conversions in multiplayer, as well, but they're not under "total conversions", they're under "multiplayer gameplay". The "singleplayer" is overwhelmingly a series of botmatches.
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>>12233695
They already do that.
>>12233696
>The "singleplayer" is overwhelmingly a series of botmatches.
Irrelevant
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>>12233696
>The "singleplayer" is overwhelmingly a series of botmatches.
Yeah it's about as much singleplayer as you get in the Unreal Tournament games.
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>>12233696
>>12233676
Again not that anon but the obvious practical reason to not add to multiplayer is it would be the only one being added right now with 2 empty spaces which looks dumb.
So unless we at the very least decide on 2 more worthy multiplayer wads we should keep it as is
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>>12233706
>So unless we at the very least decide on 2 more worthy multiplayer wads we should keep it as is
Hellshots Golf is one.
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>>12233705
>Yeah it's about as much singleplayer as you get in the Unreal Tournament games.
And Quake 3, so basically half of a game compared to something like the original Unreal.
>>12233710
>Hellshots Golf is one.
Ghouls vs Humans is another.
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>>12233657
>>12233676
thx I'll play blood (Again)
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>>12233710
Shouldn't that be filed under a /vr/ mod though? I was going to bring up Push, but that's also a /vr/ mod.
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>>12233710
>>12233718
And once again we have an issue of one mod being in multiple categories. And of course it should be put in the narrower one, so in this case vr mods.
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>>12233710
>>12233716
Also: Neither have wadsup entries so that should be a priority compared to the infograph.
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>>12233718
Term had pretty much stopped coming about by then, understandably so since the disgusting fucker who was harassing him back then lurked/namesearched here and still fucking shows up.
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>>12233725
Yeah I'd been meaning to add more wads to that, it's way more functional a resource than some dumb image is.
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>>12233656
>https://limewire.com/d/S6YIv#GE9FmfuCJT
Look at the size of it!
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These threads are literally the last decent thing on this shithole of a site.
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>>12233759
Lol, Limewire.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cAMtZ4f9w_U
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>>12233701
You get some occasional "bosses", but playing other multiplayer gameplay mods solo with bots is emulating as much of a "singleplayer campaign". I fail to see why it's so deserving of a TC spot compared to a multiplayer one.
>>12233735
That's the sort of sad pathetic edge to the Duke-It-Out anon trying so hard to make everyone happy with a "new and improved" infograph: One's been there the whole time, so it was all truly in vain.
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>>12233776
>One's been there the whole time, so it was all truly in vain.
More than that, the last year and a handful of months of arguing over a dead and forgotten image for years has been pointless and just shitting the threads up.
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>>12233776
Like mentioned above it's an obvious common sense to put the mod in the narrower category when it belong to multiple.
What is the first thing you think when looking at a mega man screenshot? HOLY SHIT IT LOOKS EXACTLY LIKE MEGA MAN WOW IS THAT MADE FROM DOOM?
The fact that it's mainly multiplayer is at best secondary.
Very simple.
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>>12233839
Most of the arguing was not so much about the image as much as about calling out ex mods' horseshit and debunking the constant flow of antidoomer's gaslighting - all of which are called for pursuits. Don't forget: the moment there was a pause in mega man wad discussion - the antidoomer switched to targeting the duke anon and unfortunately got what he wanted.
Order needs to be defended, especially on AIB.
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>>12233337
which wad do i use? theres like six of them? two are labeled perditions gate raw. wad another perditions gate raw x wad and then a few demo file wads ??? perd gate raw? is the file??
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Anyone else get Memento Mori 2 and Requiem vibes from the TNT sequels? Revilution even has a remix of a midi from Requiem, and also had Jeremy Doyle contribute a few midis.
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>>12233853
The one I have, which I believe to be the full version, has the following properties
size 7008400
date 1996-07-26
crc32 AFA09215
md5sum 22bde2b7714c4e059a557c009666265f
sha1sum a06af291e447389094f62a2a2734c521a9c17f95
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>>12233861
ok thanks
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>>12233861
>>12233863
got it thanks
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>>12233863
(The filename is just perdgate.wad but I might have renamed it, I don't recall)
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>>12233867
Oh okay good. Then you may disregard >12233868 :-)
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>>12233845
>What is the first thing you think when looking at a mega man screenshot?
You think you're going to get a bunch of traditional Megaman stages filled with hazards and enemies, a hub where you can choose the order of levels, maintain a consistent weapon progression, a variety of all of that classic Megaman goodness.
Those expectations are shattered upon playing it: It's a linear series of bot deathmatches with an occasional bossfight - which often end up being less challenging than the botmatches themselves. It's a "singleplayer campaign" for arena/multiplayer shooter fans.
>>12233851
Duke-it-out anon wanted to hold back on adding MM8DM into his new infograph if the people for its inclusion weren't "behaving themselves". The hill he died on was wanting to include NERF, a mod led by Megasphere, who also worked on MM8DM. He managed to get everyone turned against and attacking him.
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>>12233881
>You think you're going to get a bunch of traditional Megaman stages filled with hazards and enemies, a hub where you can choose the order of levels, maintain a consistent weapon progression, a variety of all of that classic Megaman goodness.
You'd think the megaman fans would be all for that kind of shit.
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>>12233887
>You'd think the megaman fans would be all for that kind of shit.
They absolutely would, which is kind of the point as to why it can feel very disappointing when they don't get that.
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>>12233881
>Duke-it-out anon wanted to hold back on adding MM8DM into his new infograph if the people for its inclusion weren't "behaving themselves". The hill he died on was wanting to include NERF, a mod led by Megasphere, who also worked on MM8DM. He managed to get everyone turned against and attacking him.
Oh I gotcha, you're the troll. Nobody was against him. It was just you samefagging insults and retarded conspiracy theories.
Welp, you had me fooled there for a second, thought I was talking to an actual person who's not mentally ill.
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>>12233892
In a way, I'm kind of surprised no one's really put much time into a "singleplayer component" for the mod that's more like the expectation.
>>12233902
>>Duke-it-out anon wanted to hold back on adding MM8DM into his new infograph if the people for its inclusion weren't "behaving themselves". The hill he died on was wanting to include NERF, a mod led by Megasphere, who also worked on MM8DM. He managed to get everyone turned against and attacking him.
>Oh I gotcha, you're the troll. Nobody was against him.
I doubt that: https://warosu.org/vr/thread/11948728#p11953956
>>I told you to fucking behave. Do you want MM8BDM included in the final chart or not?
He didn't start tripcoding until after the stuff with NERF and getting fed up with everyone: https://warosu.org/vr/thread/12015409#p12019054
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>>12233906
>In a way, I'm kind of surprised no one's really put much time into a "singleplayer component" for the mod that's more like the expectation.
The audience it's got seems to not really have much interest in Megaman beyond the theming, though as we've seen from the various looks on Doomseeker, it's a much smaller audience than it's made out to be.
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>>12231457
>zdoom fucked
>another working faggot
>uzdoom multiplayer everybody
>fake news often reviews
>please map
>issues filtered many devs
>vanilla enemies around tomb
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>>12233853
If you're on chocolate: PG-RAW-X.WAD
On other ports: PG-RAW.WAD

Also when I played it I wrote a dehacked file for level names, you can load it too: https://files.catbox.moe/tsxtbq.zip
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We never had a chance... Mtn Dew was on the market for YEARS before Kick. It was over from the start.
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>>12233925
good to know. i saved both files. and will download this as well thank you
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>>12233925
>>12233929
i wanna start learning some doom coding stuff and map making. just to expand my horizons a bit. using the console on doom certainly helped when i started messing around with powershell alot. which im also learning now
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>>12233759
oh yeah? whats my ip then?
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>>12233759
I leaked my ip several times here anyway when I hosted doom/quake games :D
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>>12233759
yeah, now try to guess the magnet links on public torrent search engines, good luck.
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>>12233935
It's even just useful for being able to fix up stuff that's either broken or tweaking things to work how you like.
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>>12233906
>In a way, I'm kind of surprised no one's really put much time into a "singleplayer component" for the mod that's more like the expectation.

There's some solo encounters but yeah it currently stands as being slightly less dry than Q3A's solo component. I know Terminus fucked around with the mod as well before simply making his own MMX-inspired one with the OC he had. And if he's the author of the original infographic, I think that makes the entire situation we've had for a year somewhat ironic, though he would do more than just hamfist it in a shitty edit with no heart to it.
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>>12233947
>And if he's the author of the original infographic
That's what I'd always heard, and it would be very in line with the kind of thing he'd do, dude's always been about finding the fun in stuff.
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>>12233917
That's what I've gathered, which is understandable. I'm partially curious looking into its development to see when the singleplayer component was added. It definitely feels like something made for the MM8DM fanbase.
>>12233947
>And if he's the author of the original infographic, I think that makes the entire situation we've had for a year somewhat ironic, though he would do more than just hamfist it in a shitty edit with no heart to it.
Poor guy seems to be cursed in having weird clouds of "Doom sperginess" surrounding his stuff.
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>>12233946
Absolutely for sure. That makes sense
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>>12233952
>Poor guy seems to be cursed in having weird clouds of "Doom sperginess" surrounding his stuff.
At least he's off doing his own stuff in relative peace now.
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>>12233952
For as long as his run was, spearheading all kinds of varied content in less than a decade, some of it liked by all sides of the Doom community - I think that was all but inevitable.

>Samsara attracted people who got the wrong idea about its gameplay design and caused headaches about trying to keep people on later versions
>Getting involved with one certain degenerate who made an ugly as fuck map and refused to improve, whose shenanigans warranted him speaking up about them with a lengthy post on Doomworld
>The one person who inevitably made him distance himself from the community entirely
>SO YOU WANT TO PLAY FUCKING DOOM ultimately becoming /vr/ Doom's cultural artifact as it aged, and one has been trying to fuck with it on and off for 12 months in a bare minimum job - especially after the IP counter gets retired

I am sure I am missing like two or so things/people but it's absolutely a shame that he became a victim of success in any case.
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>>12233986
Term's biggest problem he didn't tell enough people to fuck off.
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>>12233906
Yup, you pressured him into sperging out at megaman anons who I guess he mentally calculated to be weaker or smth. Pathetic of him, no question.
And again he only got fed up with you, really. Though he did believe it was many people
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Recorded a clean playthrough of RAMP2025 MAP80 "The Devil's Ashtray", which is a big homage to the Ashtray Maze sequence from Control. Clean as in no stream chat, no commentary.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sB8p5hizQLI
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>>12233992
All such a bummer. At least I'm glad none of it completely killed his spark and interest towards Doom, but I wouldn't blame him at all if it did.
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>>12233992
I dunno, I think he just always tried to find the nice solutions to conflicts, and ultimately ended up trapped due to some immensely horrible asshats and the negligent fucks who tried to gaslight him. Still doesn't feel right pinning that on him being too nice and having an attractive personality.
>>12234012
It's awesome seeing the things he's up to with Daemon_Toolz, but it's fucking rough to hear him talk about the risks of communities and letting people get too close to you/familiar with you, that's harm that's going to stay with him for life.
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>>12233925
PG-RAW-X.WAD is the correct one
PG-RAW.WAD is missing F_END lump after the flat textures which is required for them to work properly on dos/chocolate, that's all of the differences.
https://doomwiki.org/wiki/Adding_custom_textures#Adding_new_floor.2Fceiling_textures
I don't know why PG-RAW.WAD was even included in the disk.
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Tomb Fetus should replace MM8BDM in the guide image
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>>12234065
>Tomb Fetus
Still weird to put in "total conversions" but yeah it does need more recognition.
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>>12234065
Seconding this.
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>>12234068
>Still weird to put in "total conversions"
How so? It is a total conversion. You don't even need a Doom IWAD.
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>>12234079
For some reason we have 1 or 2 autists who are obsessively triggered by the idea of putting literally anything in total conversions.
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>>12231114
Chocolate doom discontinues macos builds
https://github.com/chocolate-doom/chocolate-doom/issues/1698#issuecomment-3630035010
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>>12232927
Primarily, because there's fan released levels for Doom 1 with her name on it, and which are then extremely similar to Tim's levels for Ultimate Doom, and later Quake. They collabed on levels before he was hired as well, and Theresa herself said that she did most of the work for Tim.
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>>12234118
I've heard that she basically did all the layout and encounter design and he'd maybe decorate them a bit at best.

Supposedly the Kick map is all him, which would explain why it's pretty shit.
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>>12234079
>How so? It is a total conversion.
So is Jurassic Rift. You'll never guess which gameplay section it's in!
It's real funny that people want to keep plugging things with a clear multiplayer focus into "total conversions" instead of things like Ashes. It's better than when MM was in "historically notable shit" but still.
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>>12234123
>It's better than when MM was in "historically notable shit"
That was at least back when it was the original anon cause he tried to argue that UAC Labs wasn't historically notable compared to his favorite wad.
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>>12232992
Some of those weapon sprites look fucking great, some of them look garbage (the saw, the revolver). That DOES look like it'd be not necessarily very difficult, but indeed exhausting.
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>>12232917
>>there's a handful of moments that feel very influenced by death wish
honestly it feels like half the high effort map packs now want to ape the Death Wish "freaky otherworld shit pushing through reality"
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>>12233309
I didn't enjoy Perdition's Gate very much, Tom Mustaine knows how to make exactly one specific type of level, and he makes it over and over again. If you cut that megawad in half and held on to the better parts, I think I would have liked it more.

Some think of it as a lost Final Doom episode, but I don't know about that. Evilution is the way it is as a crudely wrangled community project, and Plutonia is the way it is out of sheer creative ambition. Mustaine got told he missed the chance with Perdition's Gate, and most likely this changed the direction of it, maybe if he had gotten in he could maaaybe have worked with other mappers who could have made more varied and interesting contributions, but just the same it could have ended up very similarly.
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>>12234117
Given the reasoning, I don't blame him.
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>>12234123
You're assuming a lot of things and have a pretty big chip on your shoulder. Is it even worth talking to you? I doubt it, but the clear answer is that multiplayer TCs are still TCs, but no one said to put TF into the TC category. The post you're replying to is just clarifying that it is a TC, not that it should go into the TC section. The original post just said that TF should get in instead, regardless of the final slot, which I'd support because it'd be funny.
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>>12234181
>The original post just said that TF should get in instead
Specifically it said:
>>Tomb Fetus should replace MM8BDM in the guide image
Since MM is currently in the TC category, that would place Tomb Fetus in the TC category. That's where >>12234068 comes in:
>>Still weird to put in "total conversions" but yeah it does need more recognition.
I.e. it's still weird to put a "multiplayer TC" lined up with regular "total conversions" when there is a section for multiplayer gameplay mods/TCs.
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>>12234187
Anon from >>12234065
I can confirm that
>replace Tomb Fetus in the TC category
isn't what I said/meant. It's that TF should be in the guide while MM should not, regardless of category. You ran too far with your assumption without asking for clarification.
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>>12234198
>>12234187 (You)
>Anon from >>12234065 (You)
Also me.
>I can confirm that
>>replace Tomb Fetus in the TC category
>isn't what I said/meant. You ran too far with your assumption without asking for clarification.
We'll both do better to specify next time.
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>>12234159
Perdition's Gate honestly feels like a rough draft. Theres some things I like about it, but goodness is it unpolished as hell. Even Memento Mori 1 feels more polished, and that can be pretty rough around the edges here and there.
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Almost nobody knows wtf TF is, nor is it impressive/relevant/popular to the same degree. Many mods/wads should be included before TF.
But I understand you're saying it mostly as a troll, so whatever.
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>>12234203
>Tomorrow theme user is a dishonest shitposter
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7hC3uyQdQKM
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>>12234205
>Almost nobody knows wtf TF is
That's kind of the point, really: It's a solid and fun mod that would need some spotlight. Doesn't need to be as relevant; you don't see Brutal Doom on there anywhere - or at least not anymore. A few were insisting that it should be in the TC section as well, seemingly not really understanding what a TC is.
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>>12234205
>Almost nobody knows wtf TF is
I know what TF is, while other people do not know what TF is. Therefore, I am guiding people to TF. Hence TF should be in the guide. QED.
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>>12234214
Who the fuck hasn't been aware of Tomb Fetus at some level for the past like four years?
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>>12234218
Almost nobody, according to that anon, and I believe him. He's a trusted source I've listened to for years.
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>>12234205
I don't think it's big enough of a troll though if it's just one obnoxious guy being targeted, furthermore TF is quite remarkable on its own merit. NTA

New posts deleted, with context >>12233292 >>12233296 >>12233320 >>12233357
>Holy fucking shit you're still spamming your dumbass samefagging (...)
>he's still trying to force his pathetic attempt at framing the "megafaggot" (...)
>Lmao. Based mods keeping the shitter accountable.
>Remember to hide and report hit shittery.
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>>12234218
As someone who rarely goes out of these threads, this guy. I only heard about it a few months back. Prior to that it was apparently mentioned at least six times in the last few years and I missed them all.
>>12234221
>clean up on aisle Doomgen
Love to see it.
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>>12234218
I never heard of it. If I had, I'd forget it since it's something I'm not interested in because it looks gay.
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>>12234205
>Almost nobody knows wtf TF is

Easy.

>Team Fortress
>Transformers
>Titanfall
>Thunder Force
>The Fuck
>That Feel
>Transformation
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>>12234507
Titty Fuck
Tranny Faggot
Testicle Fart
Tarded Fudgepacker
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>>12234218
The first I heard of it was when someone replied to the news post to announce its release, and I looked at the name and laughed a lot and wondered why no-one found it offensive (dead babies lol). Then it was explained to me that it was meant to sound like Team Fortress but still you can't pick something that sounds less edgy-teenager-trying-to-offend? So I thought for a while but could only come up with Trim Fattress which isn't even a word.
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>>12234117
>>12234176
Me neither, I had no idea the extent to which it goes. Can a macOS user even run a program he compiled himself without paying the tax? Can he even run the compiler..? Sorry this is a bit offtopic
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>>12234509
Very good anon, but you forgot the most important one: Tile Fetish.
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>>12234529
Used to have ways around it but Apple have been closing them off one by one because it's a rent-seeking revenue stream for them, the shit for iphone and tablets is equally bad.
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>>12234519
Is it really that offensive? No idea about its backstory, or what was the culture on SA in general.
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Tim Four Trays
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>>12234538
Are we really discussing the offensive of wad names on a board that made HFFM?
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>>12234538
I dunno about SA. I just remember when I was a student, if you wanted to make offensive jokes at a party or whatever you went for dead babies.
Like "what's red and crawls up your leg? a homesick abortion"
or "what's red and sits in the corner? a baby playing with a razor blade"
or "what's green and sits in the corner? the same baby two weeks later"
I did all of those at a birthday party once and got in a lot of trouble because it turned out this one girl in our group had just had a miscarriage lol
This was before nine eleven. Later on they changed what's-the-most-offensive-thing-you-can-talk-about to arab terrorists. Now... well you know what it is now.
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>>12234574
>Now... well you know what it is now.
Megaman Zandronum mods.
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>>12234570
In HFFM's case, the title is the least offensive thing compared to the whole sum of content, but that's just how I think.

>>12234574
Humor so unsophisticated and trifling, makes me wonder if there is something more to it. And at the same time, it feels candid as a deep buried memory from times I forgot even existed. Even the girl story feels like something I was personally a witness to. Guess it's nothing more than a zany name they chose at random, yet I expected some more specific trivia.
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>>12234570
HFFM isn't very offensive, particularly given that it's affectionate.
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>>12233730
I hate that the narcissistic creep still comes here, he makes me feel unclean.
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>>12234574
That sounds kind of socially maladjusted of you (particularly doing all of them at once). Hope you grew past that quickly.

>>12234538
What is Tomb Fetus anyway?
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>>12234519
>So I thought for a while but could only come up with Trim Fattress which isn't even a word.
You now remember Burl Tumd.
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>>12234837
>What is Tomb Fetus anyway?
There's still a trailer for it in the news section:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LXVsqIrM4wg

A multiplayer TC.
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>>12234837
>What is Tomb Fetus anyway?
Play on Team Fortress without any particular meaning. Guess the name sticks to you and is all that matters.
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>>12234065
DrPySpy finish that Wolfenstein project and also that MetaDoom map.
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>>12234850
DrPySpy, the alleged anti-mm shitposter pocketed by our janny, is being vehemently opposed by mm shizo, the brit guy whose name we learned was Peter Lawrence? The plot thickens.
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>>12233881
>people for its inclusion weren't "behaving themselves"

And they(he) weren't(wasn't). Douk-anon also made it clear he wasn't going to give MM any special treatment, so MMschizo sperged out and started accusing Douk-anon of being him.
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>>12234065
I don't care what goes in it as long as MM doesn't. So, seconded.
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>>12234842
I see. Why is Knuckles, and Touhou, and Jotaro, there?
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>>12234837
GZDoom Clone of Open Fortress/TF2C beta 4 deathmatch by the same clique
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>>12234945
That's a great question. I only heard about the mod from here recently and have yet to check it out myself.
If it's got a series of SP botmatch tutorials like MM does I might give it a go. There's also Quake Champions Doom Edition I need to check sometime.
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>>12231267
>>12231270
Notice how these are still not deleted.
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>>12234221
>>12234984
This is for everybody ITT or before who was doubting the fact that the shitter is being pocketed. We had the same exact thing couple of threads ago. Hell, we've been dealing with this for over a year now.
>actual troll gaslighter insinuator who literally can just spam insults is left alone to do his shitting up of the board
>people calling him out are wiped
The fact that at least I didn't get banned for being one of the people calling him out tells me he is pocketed by a janny, but not by a mod. So at least we have that
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>>12234840
>You now remember Burl Tumd.
I never forgot it. Burl Tumd's DNA can still be found in my mods.
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>>12235169
It's also funny to say!
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>>12234984
There are numerous low effort bants in here, in basically every thread on this site. Post-hack modteam probably have bigger fish to fry.
>>12235169
It's a great "template" in general. Has Eric done anything else or is he (understandably) stuck deep into the blackhole of HD?
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>Game Awards in a couple of days
>I don't care
>Cacowards tomorrow
>I'm looking forward to it
It's as rigged as the Oscars, but I always find something I missed earlier in the year when I was playing other things and it's like Christmas come early.
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>>12235761
Doomer Boards Awards when
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>>12233706
>Again not that anon but the obvious practical reason to not add to multiplayer is it would be the only one being added right now with 2 empty spaces which looks dumb.
The problem was insisting it be under TCs in the first place. The time spent back then to find two other total conversions to sandwich it could've been equally spent on finding another multiplayer mapset and another /vr/ mod. Multiplayer mods need players to thrive, and from what I've seen posted here MM wouldn't mind more player traffic.
>>12235761
I've always regarded the Cacowards as a spruced up list of yearly recommendations, rigged or no. I usually find something up my alley when I just go through them all looking for something new.
>going through old Cacowards
>browsing 2021
>Augur Zenith gets a mention
Didn't this cause a stir?
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>>12235761
I suppose the one upshot is the Doomworld clique are way too up their own asses to hide their biases and petty bullshit very well.
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>>12235825
My vote goes to Morbid Autumn.
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>>12235761
I'd be more interested in a /vr/awards than whatever circlejerk shit doomworlds will put out again
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>>12235849
>MA again
I really should properly play through that
I never went further than map02
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>>12235879
Best DBP I played this year (busy year, haven't played much, but still).
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>>12235854
>called serious sam
>isn't serious
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>>12235761
>>12235827
I've felt that ever since Cacowards brought in the silver awards to replace having runners up in the sidebar, I've had a lot more fun reading them.
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>>12231114
[12-03] Blood: What Lies Beneath updated to 1.5. A mod that expands the game to the max. Exclusive for NBlood/NotBlood.
https://www.moddb.com/mods/blood-what-lies-beneath/downloads/blood-what-lies-beneath-15
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>enjoy a mod
>want to watch a video about it to see what others think
>look inside
>another neural upscale no-commentary gameplay
>a Matt Eldrydge weapons showcase
>a dogshit quality clip from someone's stream (this would be fine but these rarely have any real commentary about the mod itself)

I don't get it. I really don't. I can find videos covering random mods for games with far less active modding communities. God I don't want to do it myself. I really don't. But I might have to.
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>>12235942
The answer is obvious: You shouldn't worry about what others have to say about the mod. Simply enjoy it and discuss it here.
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>>12235943
It's not about worrying about what others have to say or anything like that. I like the thing so I want to watch a video about the thing.
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Fellers, I found it.
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>>12235920
>[12-03]
Would it be awkward to place it near the top, or stick with the appropriate order?
>>12235943
>>12235943
>The answer is obvious: You shouldn't worry about what others have to say about the mod. Simply enjoy it and discuss it here.
The truth. What's the mod?
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>>12235825
Doomer Boards and /vr/ are the best. The knob slobbing on DoomWorld grosses me out, and reminds me of high school art-fags.
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>>12235947
Nice, I wondered where hall 5 was.
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>>12235948
>What's the mod?
It's not really any single mod. I've been having this experience over and over as I've sampled various gameplay mods. The one that made me make that post was Outback Anarchy.
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>>12235948
>Simply enjoy it and discuss it here.
This, it's how stuff like Dakka and Chainworm Kommando ended up more liked here than anywhere else, a bunch of us just started talking about why we liked them.
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>>12235946
I understand this, when I get something good from random idgames I always search the filename to see if anyone else ever got it and posted about it.
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>>12235946
What do you mean? You want an opinion piece on such things? Not trying to be a shithead or anything, just curious. I've been sitting on a script for Inferno Suture where I briefly talk about what inspired its tone (which is some Death Grips and mostly Chemlab).
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>>12235761
Like the oscars it's good enough that it's mostly gonna be worthwhile entries, i.e. it's not 100% trash.
But of course you always wanna be competent enough to actually know whats going on
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>>12235997
You the author of inferno suture then? If so. I really like your use of Breadbagfly's sprites to give everything a really gritty kitbashed feel, also the air hammer on the shotgun and the funny heat laser on the SMG are cool altfires.
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>>12235954
I should play that on more things.
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You know I was going to play Morbid Autumn, but Emerald City is very pretty.

>>12235997
Basically what this post says >>12235980
It's not that I want specifically a review or some indepth breakdown, just really any substantive coverage of the mod that actually engages with it beyond playing it. A review, a showcase video, anything of that sort.
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>>12236003
No, I'm friends with Loss and basically brainstormed the mod with him. It's always been one of my favorite mods and I'm into it.

>>12236009
Noted. I want to talk about these things too, gave it a shot with Project MSX and went as far as autistically comparing its railgun sniper rifle's design to the Halo SR and Crysis gauss rifle. It was a fun, somewhat frustrating video to make all in all.
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>>12235950
Go back 15 years and tell your younger self whether given the choice between the original demographic of metal head chuds that kept Doom alive vs the furry pronoun goblins that make Gone Home in the Doom engine, Romero and corporations would side with the furries and attempt to ostracize the original demographic.
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>>12236009
>destructible environment objects
>pushable crates
>openable swinging doors
>in vanilla-compatible format
doomworld hopelessly MOGGED
sure many dbps are just mid or at times even outright bad, but i consistently find something really cool in them, this kind of consistent quality is astonishing (as in consistently has peaks, not consistently stays above a certain standard)

>>12236028
link the video
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>>12235997
Not really a fan of gameplay mods but I do love me some Chemlab...
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>>12236034
Here you go. Some people don't like my voice, so there's your heads-up.
>https://youtu.be/oTj-Fbop--w
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>>12236039
oh, it's you, should've guessed
your voice is fine, the only thing that stands out to me is that you, for lack of a better term, "chew your Ts" in some letter combinations
two->chwo
through->chrough
so on and so forth
i remember it being more noticeable in your older videos
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>>12236046
Side effect of not being a native speaker, really. I wasn't too used to actually talking in English a few years ago.
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>>12236029
>the furry pronoun goblins that make Gone Home in the Doom engine
That's not a nice thing to say about the anons who posted in these threads and made that map 10+ years ago.
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>>12236052
Same. I switched to english as my main language over a decade ago and I still sometimes get stuck on "the"
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>>12236056
>>12236052
where are you from and where did you move?
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>>12236060
Slavistan. Didn't move, I'm just a technohermit.
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>>12236060
Brazil, still living here. I'm just kind of an awkward shut-in who doesn't talk much, English is the language I use the most by consequence.

Making videos, maps or mods gives me something more to do and usually helps me get through shitty parts of my life.
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>>12236052
>>12236056
I still lose words, or the order of things when describing something cause English has some of the dumbest rules that are only intuitive to people who grew up with it.
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>>12236029
You are giving too much credit for corporations. They don't really care about demographics of old games. They can never kill Doom modding.
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>>12236136
>They can never kill Doom modding.
Not entirely but it'd only take Nintendo or Disney or some fucker noticing the front page of the Kex wad shit is full of their IPs to decide to go on the warpath, which would probably ultimately end with them going after shit like idgames.
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Regarding:
>>12235942
>>12236009
>>12236034

made an attempt at a tolerable vocal sample
i'll likely attempt to make at least one substantial mod coverage video just to say i've done it, but i need to decide on whether to use my disgusting nasalspeak or an ai voice converter
vocal sample: https://voca.ro/1eIIru1nebvi
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>>12236165
You sound perfectly fine to me, anon. No need for AI, if you sounded like a more fucked up Zach Hadel I'd get it - but you're a-okay and I like your accent.

Keep it up. You'll get better before you know it.
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This is a really specific complaint/observation, and it doesn't come up too often, but.
>Mod introduces elaborate and nuanced melee mechanics
>Also gives the player a handgun with unlimited reloads.
The mod in question I'm thinking of right now is this one

https://youtu.be/c8pFeCblwt8?si=ogVzfJ7UfT6KirrW

I feel like you should do one or the other. Having both feels like a conflict of interests, and this is coming from someone who both loves good melee weapons and infinite use starting weaponry.



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