DOOM THREAD / RETRO FPS THREAD - Last thread: >>12275261Doom/Quake/Duke/Heretic/Hexen/Unreal/Sam/Half-Life/etcGameplay, WADs/Maps/Mods, Source PortsAll other 90s FPS welcome~ Let's post like gentlemen ~FAQ/GENERAL GUIDEhttps://rentry.org/vrbinSO YOU WANT TO PLAY SOME FUCKING DOOM(or Quake, Duke, Marathon, Deus Ex)https://imgur.com/a/wWS8zXzSame thing, in video format:https://youtu.be/ietb4JwaaXA https://youtu.be/DhOjleMqwdQhttps://youtu.be/CGj4gXyCzg0 == GAMES/RESOURCES ==DOOM Quickstart (IWADs etc): https://mediafire.com/file/wuniyrhsjjgq4y8QUAKE Trilogy FAQ: https://pastebin.com/Ucb11XhUPortaDOOM:https://github.com/Kroc/PortaDOOM/releasesHALF-LIFE (GoldSrc) Anthology:https://mega.nz/file/GRUCGbAY#RhOiqxnf7UPOiXcJNbRh-prKIEVRhjJaEpAkt34lyZg4CHAN DOSPACK + Win98 games:https://mega.nz/#F!3t8nzSIS!947kyMN6Z80f8HS7q2XlqAAssorted /vr/ shooters, mods, etc:https://mega.nz/#F!QXIk1bjB!NHRWGIfjcc77PyGgRlga4Qhttps://mega.nz/#F!GtEQTISJ!CCJGyPEEEsZasc1PMXicUAMIDI COLLECTIONShttps://files.catbox.moe/2hul76.ziphttps://mega.nz/file/dWQ3SThI#qYcpa4eGQj6ElyRZgjGqszR59dh4Fq9D3qXYee54kZQhttps://archive.org/details/archiveteam-geocities-midi-collection-2009https://archive.org/details/midiru-archive-2022-02-25.7z== INFO/LINKS ==OFFICIAL DOOM WIKIhttps://doomwiki.org/WHERE TO FIND WADSVanilla/Boom: https://doomworld.com/forum/4-wads-mods/ZDoom: https://forum.zdoom.org/viewforum.php?f=19/idgames: https://doomworld.com/idgames/MODDING RESOURCEShttps://forum.zdoom.org/viewforum.php?f=37https://realm667.com/== /VR/DOOM COMMUNITY ==THREAD ARCHIVEShttps://desuarchive.org/vr/search/text/"doom+thread"/type/op/OUR WADS/MODShttps://rentry.org/vrdepotMAKING NEW THREADS PROPERLYhttps://pastebin.com/8mDnrsrBIMAGE/WAD DATABASEhttps://vrdoom.booru.org/https://clovr.xyz/wadsup/MULTIPLAYER SERVERSUS West: https://clovr.xyz/CA/US Midwest: https://macgu.fun/
=== CURRENT PROJECTS ===Duke It Out in /vr/Game : DN3D | Deadline : Jan 1st 2026 (?)Tile/Con pack: https://files.catbox.moe/thm4q7.zipRules: https://desuarchive.org/vr/post/11835634=== NEWS ===[12-26] Odamex's v12 update is out, adding stuff like DSDhacked supporthttps://github.com/odamex/odamex/releases/tag/12.0.0[12-25] The Triad's Reliquary released, a large single-player maphttps://www.moddb.com/mods/the-triads-reliquary[12-24] Map-Center's Xmas Scraps Jam 2025 for Quake has been releasedhttps://www.moddb.com/mods/map-center-xmas-scraps-jam-2025/downloads/map-centers-xmas-scraps-jam-2025[12-24] PUSS 50: Another 12 Days of Doommashttps://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/156567[12-24] DBP78: Ghost Riders of Christmas Past is out nowhttps://doomer.boards.net/thread/4230/ghost-riders-christmas-past-dbp78[12-24] Vertex Relocation is on idgameshttps://www.doomworld.com/idgames/levels/doom2/Ports/megawads/vx_reloc[12-18] Pvt Stone updated to v15https://skelegant.itch.io/pvt-stone/devlog/1147661/update-to-v15-mission-complete[12-11] Deus Ex Remastered delayed indefinitelyhttps://twitter.com/AspyrMedia/status/1999170679116087572[12-10] Pvt. Stone updated to v14https://skelegant.itch.io/pvt-stone/devlog/1139050/update-to-v14-more-hud-tweaks[12-09] LZDoom v4.14.3 updatehttps://github.com/drfrag666/lzdoom/releases/latest[12-09] Cacowards 2025https://www.doomworld.com/cacowards/2025=== PREVIOUS ===https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-vrTgPGmlLwdO5VHHCJMxmRD05E6XlNmqHIN8aykRG0TO SUBMIT NEWS, REPLY TO THIS POST
>>12285030I'm DOOMING
I just remembered that Judge Dredd TC which may still be dead but I wondered if anyone thought of mods based on other 2000AD series like Strontium Dog or Rogue Trooper.Or something like Samsara but the cast is different characters like Dredd, Johnny Alpha, Rogue, Hammerstein, Nemesis, Slaine etc.A contrast to Marvel and DC characters being in fighting games.
>>12285026>I actually respect those who approach maps from a strategic standpoint and learn how to minimize the chance of death via strategic cheesing like that.It's my favourite way to play. I love a map that looks awful until you figure out the key to unlock and trivialize it. And I love optimizing all the risk out of the game. I am a terribly boring person, though.>I absolutely maintain that the map requiring the non-Godlike player to take the time to work out a proper route to consistently beat it is part of its difficulty, though.Okay that is true. I regret implying that pl32 is easy. I simply assert that it is not one of the two hardest maps in plutonia.Assuming full map knowledge, I can clear pl32 with a success rate of over 80%. But with full map knowledge, my success rate of clearing, say, pl25, is less than 20%. Last time I was doing UV pistol-start clearances of plutonia maps I got stuck on map25 for days and needed dozens of restarts. I can usually clear pl32 in one or two tries; in fact I usually use pl32 as one of the first maps to try out some new gameplay mod. (Almost said "one of the go-to maps" there before realising the excruciating pun.) It doesn't seem like a challenge any more, more of a romp.
>>12285069>I love optimizing all the risk out of the game.That's exactly how I play.
>>12285069>pl25I don't recall having too much trouble with this one when I did my single-segment-each-map playthrough of Plutonia.What part of it gives you the most trouble?
>>12285051When due process fails us, we really do live in a world of doom
>>12285108Right so you start in a mazey pit surrounded by sergeants on ledges. There is no immediate defence available and only one way out of the maze via a staircase up to the ledges. There are three weapons on the ground at dead ends in the maze but if you go for them you will get shot up.You have to run immediately for the stairs, and hope to pistol one of the sergeants and steal his weapon, then get into the only bit of cover now available, the side tunnel that has a backpack and some health potions in it.Now you have to carefully pick off the sergeants as they appear. You are already low on health, and have no armor, very few shells, and a handful of bullets.You limp out of this with some guns but likely <50% health. You find a chaingunner in an alcove, with a single medikit. That's all the health you've seen so far. There's no armor. You also find another weapon, the rocket launcher, along with two revenants and a bunch of imps. Then you open a hut with two hellknights, a baron, and a teleporter. You kill these, slowly with the super shotgun because you need your rockets for the next bit. This part is not difficult, but can go badly if unlucky, and again due to absence of health, mistakes are not forgiven.At this point I'm probably already at less than 40% survival rate because the crowd of sergeants is so random. I have to kill everything because you can't backtrack, and I need to play perfectly and take no damage, so it's exhausting.Then you teleport to part two.
>>12285123>Then you teleport to part two.Part two has you in a cramped symmetrical space with a baron, and (upon moving) a bunch of hellknights, and chaingunners guarding switches hiding in alcoves. These must all be killed (no backtracking, remember) likely with rockets, all the while one false move getting you cornered and dead.If I've cleared part two, I'm likely now at a 25% survival rate of reaching part three (which is more like parts three, four, five, and six, but technically is all one area)So I teleport to part three.
>>12285119Wait a minute...
Happy new year /doom/!
>>12285127>So I teleport to part three.I'm less familiar with part three because I hardly ever reach it so it's easy to do it in the wrong order and waste resources. But first you have to deal with teleporting and being surrounded by zombies in cages, so you immediately have to dash into cover which I hope you know exactly where it is and where to move at first.At this point anyway you have more choice of where to go. It eases up a little for a moment if you can get into the cage round the back and get the blue armour. At least now you have some defense.All right I'm tired of describing this as a play-by-play. I hope you get the idea. Part three has the clamber around a lava lake, with more hitscan, and it's really easy to fall off the staircase on the way down. It also has a bit where you have to jump into a lava bath and dodge revenants to grab a megasphere and radsuit, then kill them and a bunch of mancubi, and various monsters hidden in walls, all before the radsuit runs out. It's clear the Casalis weren't completionists.I needed three attempts or so to do part three, and since I only reached that far in about one in five attempts, the whole thing took dozens of tries, replaying annoying shit over and over, having to play perfectly not getting damage because there's no recovery from it, getting frustrated because I've just done this damn part already but died in the next one so now I have to do it again even though I did it perfectly last time. I hope you can understand how this is frustrating. It's one thing to fail, it's another thing to pass and still have to repeat because you failed a later thing.So I hope that enlightened you, thank you for the question.>>12285108
I know what I'm playing the fourth episode with.
>>12285138>half-life guaranteed apparentlyepisode 3 is back on the menu boys
>>12285123>You have to run immediately for the stairsYou don't. You can actually just leave lol. You can immediately run for the area where the entrance to the temple is, grab the rocket launcher there, take care of the revenants/spectres, kill a chaingunner with the rocket launcher, then use the chaingun to fuck up all the sergeants.>>12285127>Part two has you in a cramped symmetrical space with a baron, and (upon moving) a bunch of hellknights, and chaingunners guarding switches hiding in alcoves.You can partially cheese this part by taking advantage of rockets' infinite height splash damage to kill two of the hell knights before they pop up, making this fight much easier.
>>12285139>It also has a bit where you have to jump into a lava bath and dodge revenants to grab a megasphere and radsuit, then kill them and a bunch of mancubi, and various monsters hidden in walls, all before the radsuit runs out.This was the part I remember being the most difficult.I last played through Plutonia a couple of years ago so I don't remember this super well, but I'm quite sure I didn't die here more than once or twice at the most when attempting to single-segment the map after I had worked out all my strats by playing with saves. This map would have stood out in my mind as being more difficult had I died a lot here or on this map in general.
>>12285143>You don't. You can actually just leave lol.Hmm I'll try that next time, there's no hitscan in that part so it might work. But not many rockets either. Offence is so limited at the start.>>12285143>[...]kill two of the hell knights before they pop upYeah I do that. But it requires more patience than just moving off the teleporter pad. (It's easier to accidentally move and trigger the release when one does not use zero vertical mouse sensitivity. Please don't recommend I turn off vertical mouse sensitivity.) Usually at that point I'm already frustrated so my brain is being irrational and forcing me to move on faster.
>>12285154>But not many rockets either.It's not that hard to get the revenants to infight with the spectres.>vertical mouse sensitivityWat? Elaborate. Do you mean you're playing with freelook, or do you mean you're playing with the mouse making your dude move backward and forward?
>>12285138>already playing doom lol>autistic thinking intended>anon posting video>retard reasons>retarded super person>monsters might agree>happy pain liked>pistol better bad
>>12285158>It's not that hard to get the revenants to infight with the spectres.But can be tedious. Remember the map has already sapped my patience.>Wat? Elaborate. Do you mean you're playing with freelook, or do you mean you're playing with the mouse making your dude move backward and forward?The latter. (I know it's extremely old-fashioned.)
>>12285171>The latter.Haha.I'm going to recommend that you......wait for it......stop doing that.
>>12285172Haha indeed. At this point rewriting 25 years of muscle memory is not going to happen. Left/right/use on keyboard, fire/forwards on mouse buttons and turn/walk on mouse axes is how my brain works. WASD or some equivalent cursor-keys-mimicking shape to do both left/right and forwards/backwards on the same hand is not, no matter how much I've tried it. My motor skills do not seem to be wired that way. I have my theories on why this is, a consequence of the typical keyboard controls in the games on the home computer systems I grew up with, but I already feel I've drifted too far into the realm of personal information, so I'm going to shut up now.Thanks for an entertaining chat. I'll definitely try running away for the rocket launcher at the start next time I feel like redoing Plutonia. (I did eventually get a uv-max recording of the map so technically I never need to play it again, but, you know, if ever.)
>>12285194How do you keep moving forward? Do you have to lift your mouse off the pad?
>>12285209nvm I'm retarded you just said how.
>>12285030>literally the most generic 0 creativity 0 humor picture>old shitty link for infographics>using the fact that nobody who has a life will be there to make a proper thread insteadThis is sad.
>>12285057What if, Samsara but other mod characters?
>>12285238happy new year peter
>>12285057Throw Durham Red, Morrigun, the chick from Mambo and a few others in there too for thirst appeal.Also Sinister and Dexter as a two characters as one thing.
>>12285248>peterLikewise anti-doom troll
>both sets of pedantic fucks have started with their bullshit early this yearTime to go try a new wad instead of engaging in the dumpster fire, Triad's Reliquary was looking pretty neat.
>>12285238>no disingenuous imgur link>no AI slop>page 7 when baked>no notable fuckups (not much news or things to fuck up though)We’ve had waaay worse, though I wish the Duke It Out was updated with the new cutoff date. At least it has the question mark, and the original Doom titlepic isn’t too inappropriate for a new start to the year. 8/10
>>12284845Hey anon, made a post suggesting Tesefy's DE auto shotgun but didn't realize the thread was already on its deathbed.Here it is, in case you want to use it. It was pretty annoying to actually find it.
>>12285253>being pissed at baker for using doom titlepic as the image instead of some shitty ai pic>calling others anti-doom
>>12285209>>12285214All good, mate.Yeah, right mouse button. I used to have middle for running backwards, but it was awkward and didn't see much use. Then scroll wheels came into fashion and made middle mouse that much harder to press and hold down, so I gave up.I have a run backwards key, but only for occasional use, it doesn't typically have a finger resting on it.
>>12285462cool looking orange water
Which doom wad reminds you most of your high school teachers
>>12285670None. Strange question to ask, what makes .wads remind you of yours?
>>12285670Freedoom v0.5 and Greenwar played through Doom Legacy, because they were easy to download and set up on school computers, and once I proved that they were free and open source, they didn't cause our computer teacher to flip out and moralfag about piracy.
>>12285382Do you play any other FPS? Do you use mousewalking for that too, or only for Doom?Personally, I think that mousewalking works absolutely EXCELLENTLY for Wolfenstein 3D, hyper smooth and hyper precise, because the nature of that game doesn't get in the way of it at all (no inertia, no height difference, all spaces are perfectly flat and and in even block increments). You really can move like a mouse cursor in that game, and that's one of those relatively unique aspects which I love about it, in spite of being a relatively simple shooter.
>>12285793lmao, some people.I remember when I was in 4th or 5th grade, one of my friends showed me Duke Nukem 3D on the computer in one of the teacher's lounges.It was just there, I guess one of the teachers at some point must have been hailing to the king.
>>12285806>lmao, some people.I was actually able to talk to him and reach a compromise, at least. As far as school teachers go, he could have been a lot worse.
>>12285793I had the opposite experience, one of my teachers came over to us at the end of a lesson where we'd been chattering away, and he said "were you talking about Lemmings?" and I thought "oh shit I'm in trouble" but it turned out he wanted a copy of it!
why is there no odamex appimage
GZslop ruined doom forever.
>>12285670>Which doom wad reminds you most of your high school teachersNothing 'Doom' related, but our PCs for architecture class had Q3 on them. We'd mess around in it for a few minutes near the end of class if we had finished our work.
>>12285842>PCs for architecture class had Q3 on themAs well as Radiant, I assume?
>>12285281I might use it, though the barrels don't rotate and to be honest I want to be lazy for this little project. I'll see what I can do with all this. Also if you're the same guy asking about if you can use those sprites, I have good news: They're not mine, Tesefy made this shotgun and I've just had it saved for a long ass time, lol.
>>12285835Nigga please, only about 10% wads per year are gzdoom exclusive. Thought I do have a problem with gzdoom map sets that do not use gzdoom features but require gzdoom. No slopes, no 3d geometry, no dynamic lights, no acs, no decorate, no zscript, just maps that are udmf for no reason, and so udmf that even dsda can't work around with them. I'd just rather play everything that I can with Nugget or dsda.
>>12285882>just maps that are udmf for no reasonare there even any worthwhile maps that do this?
>>12285889I don't know are they they udmf, but Azazel's Second Descent, Infernal Gladiator, Valis and Scorching Earth are all gzdoom exclusive megawads, while all of their content could be achieved on mbf21 without changing anything visually or in gameplay.
>>12285889And btw Scorching Earth is fucking good. It's basically Hellbound 2. Very awesome big city maps. Should work mostly on Nugget now, but some of the textures can't be displayed.
Where it fuck is Call Of The Void Jam, Sprony? Was supposed to come out before the end of the year. I need my Quake 2 content fix.
>>12285901Meh, same shit. Exclusive to port X or port Y is still exclusive. Keep it limit removing or Boom, in my humble opinion.
>>12285949>in my shitty opinionFTFY
>open up auto map>see a secret closet>press space on the wall, nothing>punch the wall, nothing>mfw
what was the name of this wad again, it started with a h and had an x in ithxetc something.
nevermind, found it, it's HXRTC,
wtf, r18? they threw porn in this mod now last i played?
>>12285914Right after the inevitable Burger Bill jam, I'm sure.
Rage Spheres let you pet Munchy faster. I'm excited to see how much faster a maxed out Typhon will punch with one active.
>>12286097it's the 18th release, you waste of oxygen
>>12286197Not him, but it is kinda weird to do release numbers rather than version numbers.
>>12286207What's the difference? They're both increasing sequences of integers.
>>12286225I feel like it's more common to see v1.0 or what have you rather that r10 on title screens or wherever they put the current version of the project.
>>12286228yeah and R18 is often associated with doujin circles
>>12286243i didn't know japan invented age ratings
>>12286207They switched to release numbers when they were going to do the final release and call it a day, they eventually came back and did more but kept on release numbers to not confuse it with the oldest shit.
>>12285829probably because wxgtk and fltk are hard to package
>>12285238>no i need my maymays!The dogwhistle is tragically autistic today, it appears.
>>12285238Damn what a shame, I guess you'll have to give up and leave.
Fucking sick, I finally know how to make Typhon's Hokuto Shinken only take ammo if you hit something. Always annoyed me that whiffing it still cost ammo.
I have a problem with slade map viewer, it doesn't show things. I can see their shadow on the flats but the red icon doesn't appear. How do I fix it?
Although I have no idea what the fuck this means. F_SKY1 isn't even a song, it's apparently a texture that the TEXTMAP refers to and I can't find anything about the Bivrost Overdrive trying to play it as a song, so I have no idea how to fix this and it annoys me. Oh wait what if I just copy one of the songs it's supposed to play and rename it to that. Stupid fix, but if it works...
>>12285857Fantastic, that looks like a very chunky shotgun. Would be at home in a Blame! type thing.As for the DE auto shotgun, the barrels do spin - but only as they fire, rather than when the gun is pumped. You could probably hack together some centered pumping frames with Amuscaria's shotgun hands, though?
Yep, Golden Souls, that's a quality WAD.
>>12286449Probably some kind of conflict, possibly mapinfo-induced.
>>12285248>>12285275>>12286360>>12286369Stop samefagging pls
>>12286582Nah, MAPINFO's pretty bare and I've CTRL+F'd F_SKY1 in everything that has text. But my dumb fix worked. I ended up ganking a few songs from Echidna and then copying some of Typhon's songs over to that to replace a few while I was at it.
Who are the best Doom YouTubers? I like zero master, decino, vytaan.Harder question who is your favorite Heretic/Hexen YouTuber?
>>12286684I'm kind of a fan of MtPain27. Sometimes I catch Deffers' VODs, but I actually don't really watch Doom content unless it's something I have no real intent on playing (like MyHouse.WAD).
>>12286684For finding stuff I might actually play I tend to find Clippy useful for maps since he come across stuff in his quest to just play everything regardless of who made it or how big it is.Similarly for gameplay mods I find Matt useful since he seems a lot more proactive at finding stuff since most of those types seem to look no further than scrolling the first page on the mod section on Doomworld/Zdoom/Moddb.
>>12286691MyHouse is actually quite good wad. It just managed to get idiotic mainstream fans outside the Doom community. Kinda like Brutal Doom 10-15 years ago. It neither wasn't a bad gameplay mod, but it just brought idiots to community. Now they've all grown too to be smarter.
>>12286684i only have my own company on heretic and hexen
>>12285835I would have maybe believed this about zdoom and derived ports back in the mid-late 2000's, back in the era of overhyped advanced port projects that typically fell flat. But then the 2010's had a huge vanilla renaissance and made me care about doom wads again.
>>12286552Nah. I got smart.
>>12286825>shotgun minigunThis makes my shotgun the super shotgun.
>>12286832It'll still work the same way as I posted earlier, so a merging between Shadow Warrior's riot gun and Final Doomer's Hellbound shotgun. Which is cool.Still chewing on what to do with the rocket launcher, like what should happen if the player holds the fire button and keeps shooting it? It has to be something more subtle and useful for vanilla fights.
ut3 poster and mtn dew code red
>>12286832Didn't some jokewad from the 90s feature a Shotgun-Chaingun or something, and it was absurdly powerful?
>>12286836Slight laser guidance?Like, not a high enough turn rate to stack up a ton of rockets during downtime and barrel through monsters (unless the map is fucking huge, I guess) but enough to steer them into that archvile at a distance who just won't sit still. Alternatively, you could have the laser pointer require a valid target and lock on after a bit, again returning to rocket sniping, maybe long enough to have fired three or so rockets.
>>12286853Well what came to mind is the two biggest reasons someone is gonna lay on the trigger with a rocket launcher is: Mulching crowds of mid tier monsters, or trying to kill something at long range. I'm not even sure how feasible a laser guidance system would be under Zandronum restrictions.Something that came to mind is some sort of defensive effect, like a shield or something that'll guard against fireballs and Rev missiles but then that runs the risk of totally shutting your brain off as you fire rockets, so that sucks.Really when you have a weapon as good as a rocket launcher it's hard to anything more to it.
>>12286858You could do something like Doom 2016/Eternal's remote detonation, but instead of activating it remotely, after firing 3-5 rockets, they just start flakking secondary explosions to the left and right on impact, helps with clearing crowds, and adds some more blast damage at range assuming you have some surface close to your target to hit.
>>12286863That's not a bad idea. I'll try that once I get around to that. Honestly I want to first go back and make the pistol and sword extra special first.
How do I play doom on my phone? I'm not giving my money to Todd Howard.
>>12286882Not giving money to Todd is fine, but is a phone the only device you have?Zoomers seem like they adapt well to playing on phones though, I've seen kids play complex mods with a lot of binds and micromanaging like HDest, and all on a touch screen. I can't even imagine that, but hell, it apparently works.
>>12286886I mean I don't feel like dragging my gaming rig around with me just to fire up chocolate doom when I'm in a waiting room or on a lunch break. Didn't think I needed to give my life story just to get a simple answer.
>>12286897Hey, fair. I'd do some occasional Dooming on the go, too, if I could be fucked to jailbreak my old 3DS.I believe that Doom Delta Touch is one of the ports for phones.
Apparently I can't help myself. I'm making taunt overlays just like the kick ones because I wanted to add the taunt to every weapon that didn't have a Reload state and it was bothering me that they just disappeared and reappeared. I was using really quick A_Lower and A_Raise at the beginning and ends but this way looks better. I think I'm still gonna keep that method for the bare-handed weapons and the sawn-off.
haven't checked here in a long while, is 94 protons out yet
>>12286996check back again in 94 weeks
>sailor moon is the only NPC who doesn't reject and shoot you>she even gives you items if you're luckywhat did they mean by this
>>12287050Lo Wang is a true fan of Naoko Takeuchi's work.
>>12287050i thought i hated this game until i played it with BuildGDX. the classic redux version completely messes up the movement and has severe framerate issues which make it unplayable
>>12287070As far as i know, Classic Redux runs on an outdated source port that has a couple of inaccuracies and glitches that never got fixed, there's pretty much no reason to play that version when BuildGDX and VoidSW exists.
>>12287050That Usagi is a good person, and that 3DRealms recognized that Takeuchi is based.
>>12286774Couldn't run it at the time it came out, since GZ dropped support for OpenGL2 and I had a very old computer. I've played it a few times since and found it to be pretty good.
>>12287140This is why it had an actual impact and is still remembered. It's overrated and overrexposed, but it's also still actually good and has merit.A bit like AC/DC.
>>12286684Ancalagon
>>12287164It kinda inspired me to do liminal shit in a roundabout way, but I still don't know what to do about it. I have some maps barking up the same tree but I'm not sure I want to release them because I don't want to deal with the attention. Maybe I could make the file password protected and hide it in a video or something.
>>12285238>muh megamanWhat, got a crush on him?
>>12287209Yeah, he's rock hard for him.
>>12287209Crush his cock with a rock, he must.
>>12285141>deadline situations
Might sound dumb but is there any doom-mapping editor that allows you to test the map, but when you'd "die" you don't die so you can think>I see, this area might need more health kits/armorperhaps I'm not being clear
>>12287336Just IDDQD or open the console and type resurrect, or rewind if your port allows it.
>>12287336>perhaps I'm not being clearYou don't test in the editor. The editor launches the game. You test in the game. I think what you want is for the game, whichever engine you're using, GZDoom, UZDoom, DSDA, whatever, to have a resurrect cheatcode.>>12287343Wait. What? Since when did IDDQD actually restore you to life? It never did in vanilla, as I recall it just set your health back to 100 but you were still uselessly a corpse.
Nice.
>>12287351Every port i've ever tested my maps on lets you resurrect with IDDQD and your inventory intact unless what dies is a voodoo doll and kills you by proxy.
>>12287378>Every port i've ever tested my maps onSo what, I'm just supposed to read your mind to find out what those are.>unless what dies is a voodoo doll and kills you by proxyThat makes sense given how it's implemented.
>>12287392Rude anon aside. This is a fairly new addition that came when DSDA-Doom first released, and later source ports such as Woof! and by extension Nugget Doom followed suit.GZDoom doesn't have this, and I don't think UZDoom implemented it either.
>>12287392>DSDA-Doom>Woof!>Doom Retro>Nugget>GZ/UZ, maybe ZDoom in general>HelionSo basically what 90% of people use. Not a huge fan of Eternity and I never really used Crispy Doom, GLBoom and Chocolate Doom.
what the fuck is this
>>12287398>Rude anon aside.Rude? Fuck off. I won't suffer fools gladly. Make stupid posts, expect to get told.>>12287402>snip list of 2020's ports>I never really used Crispy Doom, GLBoom and Chocolate Doom.That explains it then, PrBoom and Chocolate are the only ones I've ever used, aside from vanilla.
>>12287554ARRR, YOU HAVE A WOMAN'S HAND, MILORD!
I just learned that Randy Linden finally finished SNES Doom and developed a Super FX3 cartridge with Limited Run. Yes, it’s not the best way to play Doom but it is a technical achievement. bonus FMV on SNES!https://youtu.be/z0q3DRWTzMI
>>12287610>limited scum gamesInto the trash it goes.
>>12287561Guess there's no solution for your problem, then.For whatever's worth, Doom Retro is a little over 10 years old now though.
>>12287696im hoping we get a summercart style open source since Randy Linden put everything on github.Either way, the project moved forward because Bethesda gave Limited Run and Randy their blessing. This was really fucking cool.
>>12287696>limited cum
>>12287050in the name of the moon she will help you
First dream of the new year and it was you guys making fun of me for using BloodGDX instead of Raze for reasons I didn't remember or understand. And at some point I was fucking a prostitute, which I suppose is Duke adjacent. Is 2026 going to the Year of the Build, bros?
>>12287887>Is 2026 going to the Year of the Build, bros?A man can hope, but the many can accomplish. Join the Duke /vr/, we could use a 3rd map
>>12287752>Guess there's no solution for your problem, then.But my problem was solved.I have learned that there are ports that turn IDDQD into a resurrection cheatcode, and which ports they are.Perhaps we can find a solution for your problem of not being able to read.
>>12287610>This is NUTS!>open video >no nuts.wad
>>12288136
>>12288149How do you get a professional studio quality photograph of a burning house? Is that a shop or did they actually burn down a house just to take a photo of it?
>>12288151Maybe it was a condemned houseMaybe some reporter just so happened to be near a housefire
>>12288157Yeah, with a box of matches and some tinder
>>12288157>Maybe it was a condemned houseYeah it's not that uncommon for this to happen, various industries even have a standard procedure for approaching owners of fucked houses and going "we'll pay you to let us fuck it up more and then we'll also pay for it's clearup".
>>12288184What do they get out of it?
>>12287610This seems like an advert, to be honest.
>>12288216A set that they can do whatever the fuck they want in, including setting fire to it.
>>12287941I chronically retarded.The cure is Burl Tumd.
>>12288136>>12288146
>>12288267I can hear the musicdumdumdumdumdumDERR NERRR NERRRRNERNERNERRRRand the speaker-destroying roar when they all wake up
>>12288219i could see that except they already sold out of all 666 limited edition preorders and the. sold out of their first “regular” edition run. So you mayvwant to get on the waiting list now or you will get left out
>>12285032[01/02] Riddle of Revenge released. It's that My Chemical Romance mod people were talking about a few days ago.>https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/156692-riddle-of-revenge/
>>12288295>zero replies or likesYou must be the author>RiddleOfRevenge.pk3 255 MBNot quite the predicted multi gigabytes. Surprising
>>12288319No, as stated previously I'm a complete hackfraud. I happen to like the aesthetic of the mod and look forward to trying it out in an hour or two.
>>12288345>as stated previouslyYeah just let me read your mind to know which posts were yours
>>12287197>check his channel>he UV Max'd Profane PromiselandWhoa.KWAB moment for Coincident.
>>12288384>KWAB moment for Coincident.You think?Has Coincident been trying to do Profane Promiseland (and has thus been beaten to it) ? I don't follow this stuff sorry.
>>12288415Profane Promiseland made Coincident quit DOOM lol. Dude fuckin' ragequit.>>12288384>going straight for the caco cloud first in the skill issue fightBold choice. Funnily enough I don't remember Coincident ever trying this. It's like he assumed it was impossible.
>>12288428Oh wow. I'm sorry to hear that. Hope it's not permanent.
>>12288435It's "indefinite." He basically needed a mental health break from DOOM.Profane Promiseland buckbroke him.
cool bit of level design in this level
>>12288440>He basically needed a mental health break from DOOM.Supposedly he was also having RSI issues, just nowhere near as bad as Zero Master's been dealing with.
>>12288451Oh that legitimately sucks.The ragequitting thing is easy to laugh at but the RSI thing legitimately sucks for both of them.
>>12288440Damn, lol. The cacowards kept that quiet.>>12288451Oh I wondered why he'd been out of the picture for a while tooMan you don't find out anything from reading Doomworld.
mod of the year coming soonhttps://youtu.be/SVSbGCQBXfE
>>12288517>the rocket launcher still recoils first and fires the rocket at the end of the animation.
>>12288517now THIS is a total conversion of a MM8BDM level if not higher
>>12288535TCs implies maps too.
>>12288517>LEGO! I LOVE LEGO,Y'ALL!
>>12288541>total conversion>standalone gameWhere would you draw the line, just curious? When it no longer requires an iwad?
>>12288564I'd say it's a full on standalone game when it steps 100% away from Doom. So new assets, maps, and mechanics.
>>12288564It's standalone when it becomes it's own iwad.
>>12288541eh not really. Or else a bunch of TCs from other games no longer count as TCs especially in the RTS genre.
>>12288585I'm going by Doom mod standards.
>>12288517The Archvile resurrection animation was everything I had hoped it would be.
>>12288587I would agree a TC needs maps, it's otherwise closer to a "gameplay mod".
>>12288585Maps in the context of RTSs are not really the same as in the context of FPSs, IMO.
>>12288517soulless
just finished up freedoom phase 2 with brutal doom v20. someone made a patch that fixed all the errors and stuff when you load up gzdoom. whatever. its good. i liked freedoom 2 it was fun beat all four episodes and sigil using just regular freedoom 1 a month ago.
>>12288517Roblox looking weird ngl
How come the guys at Sunstorm interactive managed to replicate the spooky atmosphere and looping design of Monolith's Blood levels pretty well but dropped the ball on encounter design? The tension is lost when -- everywhere there would be an adrenaline rush of a gunfight in a Monolith level theres 1 cultist and a zombie in Cryptic passage. Definitely a drain on an otherwise solid level set.
>>12288262Burl Tumd sounds like a deaf person trying to say Brutal Doom
I like when mods have kicks or melee strong enough to knock enemies around. Booting them off the train is fun. "No ticket."
>>12288815It's also the best mod ever made.>https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=64793
>>12288869Heh. He privated the video where he advertise his mod.
>>12287610I guess it's nice that Randy got to play some more with one of his proudest achievements, and I'm surprised that LRG would actually make their SNES rumble code open source for everyone to use, but I still don't have any kind of trust in LRG and this seems like an insanely niche product.Maybe if I could emulate this version I'd check it out, but otherwise I'm good.
>>12288149Hey, the chimney still works!
>>12288451My boy ZM is having RSI's? Goddammit, no!
>>12288921He's posted about it in a few place but yeah, expand the description for this fairly old video now for some of the details.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dEAI9uCoyNI
>>12285032[01-02] Chocolate Quakeworld is now a thing that existshttps://github.com/Henrique194/chocolate-quakeworld
>>12288929Oof. Glad to hear that he seems to be kind of recovering.
I don't care like, a ton, about speedrunning, but games like Doom is one where it can be fun, because the amount of bullshitting you can do is pretty limited, and when the game goes really hard (like Final Doom on Nightmare), you have no choice but to just fight.You need to work out a route and all that, but the combat gets SO fucking ferocious and intense that it often can't be escaped, and you ARE gonna get hit, so you need to not just fight expertly, you need to learn how to always roll with your punches the best you can. Nightmare means the monsters always keep coming, too.No ACE skips to the end screen, no RNG manipulation outside of TAS, and VERY rare instances of being able to break out of bounds, let alone that even being useful at all. You simply HAVE to always engage with the gameplay and levels, and sometimes in especially demanding ways.It actually gets exciting to watch that kind of gameplay, thus I treasure the small amount of people, such as ZeroMaster, who can legit put on that sort of show.
>>12288931qwcl with 72 fps and no jump buffering let's go
>>12288689Only for doom 1? Kino…
Who tf need all these ports? Why would I need more than Crispy Doom or GZ/UZDoom?
>>12289017>CrispyNot MBF21 compliant, which is why I've switch to Nugget Doom instead, which is pretty much Crispy but better
>>12289017If you record demos or make maps and want to play or make boom/mbf/mbf21 maps, I'd swap Crispy for something with complevel support like DSDA, Woof, or Nugget.
What's the difference between DSDA, Woof and Nugget?
>>12289126DSDA is PrBoom with updated compatibility and speedrun features like rewind and input displayWoof is the Crispy dev updating winMBF for modern standards and systems, but being relatively minimal with fluff features compared to CrispyNugget is Woof with some of the cosmetic fluff features from Crispy re-added
I swear Doom is the only retro FPS community where you get people being annoyed that they have plenty of choice for sourceports.
>>12289134So the closest to GZ in terms of modern features (visual fluff, freelook, freeaim and openGL freelook distortion fix) would be the nugget?When it comes to the types of modding they support, I assume none does Zscript, obviously. Do they do decorate? If I wanted to make mods that work on the widest range of ports, would I have to learn dehacked? >>12289137It gets confusing.
>>12289126i'll list good things>DSDA (modern prboom)has opengl renderervery accurate with producing correct demos, i never seen it play/record demos incorrectly (on the other hand i had woof producing incorrect demos like 3 times, one time for our thread challenge)support for obscure complevelsconvenient qol stuff for watching demos, tas'ing>woof (modern chocolate doom)multiplayer compatible with chocolate-doom netcode (yes, you can play between choco/crispy/woof/nugget. It is also to-go port for multiplayer speedrunning because it has proper kill counter unlike crispy)release versions are compatible with dos mbf savegames and configsmost reasonable take on changing game resolution>Nugget (woof community edition)Most comfy rewind (sadly non demo-compatible)Cool crosshairs, more customization in generalSome new useful cheats like iddfbc or nextmapWill more likely get your pull request merged
>>12289165forgot to add>DSDAheretic/hexen support>woof>release versions are compatible with dos mbf savegames and configswhat it means is savegame stability, unlike dsda that can break savegame format with new release
>>12289134>cosmetic fluff featuresNugget has gameplay features not in Woof, such as walking over/under monsters
>>12289180>walking over/under monstersThat's nice, I like that. Does DSDA have it as well? DSDA has the openGL renderer, does nugget have it too?
>>12289017Minor preferences, basically.Personally, I'm entirely set with Nugget and GzD, they do everything that I want from Doom, from Vanilla, to MBF21, to Decorate and ZScript shenanigans, and they largely let me have the controls, graphics, and audio settings that I want.(I'll replace GzD with UzD once there's a reason for me to).But I can see someone who likes playing multiplayer a lot wanting something like Zandybam, even if it can't do half of what GzD can do, it can still do a lot and has actually usable netplay.Some people are also very particular about demos, maybe they like beating their own times and save their best recordings, or maybe they speedrun, then DSDA and Cherry are probably good for that.There's also Eternity, which only has one piece of interesting content for it, but hey, it's actually good and worth playing, even if Eternity is a One Horse Port.
Why doesn't anyone seem to use Hellion? It seems to work great.
>>12289192>Does DSDA have it as well?I could be wrong but I don't think so>DSDA has the openGL renderer, does nugget have it too?Nope
>>12289204Because I'm wary of the electric eye.
>>12289219I AM MADE OF METALMY CIRCUITS GLEAM
I redid the way the Outsider Revolver displays ammo and reloads.
>>12285138>dwarf giant
>>12285138>demons considered problem
>>12289350These threads are the only place I can still find vintage, good reaction images. Ty for posting that one.
>>12289165>very accurate with producing correct demos, i never seen it play/record demos incorrectly (on the other hand i had woof producing incorrect demos like 3 times, one time for our thread challenge)Define incorrect. Could Woof play back its own recorded demo? It just went out of sync in something else? What made you call it incorrect? Sorry just curious and also a bit irritated by the DSDA lot trying to redefine demo compatibility to mean "plays back with the latest version of DSDA, everything else can go fuck itself"
>>12289204I use it if there's a big map giving me lag, really.
>>12289381That one's relatively famous, and not just because Neil Cicierega/Lemon Demon drew that comic, it's just been passed around all over the web.>>12289180>>12289192I wish that was part of a complevel some day. I'd love to do some map where you're allowed to do that, and sometimes you'd need to plain run across the heads of a bunch of Cacos floating up to cross a chasm (mind their deceptively vicious melee).Thus, you'd get cool demos of people trying to do that.Also it would let you be a bit more liberal with Pain Elementals, as the Lost Souls wouldn't get to cockblock the player down on the ground, and just the same, it would let you be much meaner with them too, because the Lost Souls could just fly over a horde of Pinkies to get to you no problem.
>>12289226Yep, that one.
does anyone know where this gif is from? i really wanna find a full res. version of it.
>>12287352I fixed the arm so it actually matched her right punching arm and wasn't just mirroring the left.
>>12289520That probably already is full resolution, Doom was made to run at 320x200 so the sprites aren't very big to begin with
GOOD MORNING MOTHERFUCKERS, IT'S THAT TIME OF THE WEEK AGAIN: SCREENSHOT SATURDAY! WHAT THE FUCK HAVE YOU BEEN WORKING ON? Maps, mods, sprites? Now's a good time to post that shit!
>>12289520This guy made it. I think the gif's already full size.>https://www.doomworld.com/profile/36268-burgish/
>>12289384I had it play back demos from dsdarchives that were recorded with dsda desynced, and one demo that was recorded in woof was desynced in dsda. That was all fixed in woof.
>>12289598 (cont)I remember it was with -cl 11 wads. Probably because this complevel is pretty rare
how often did official stuff even have IRC channels?
>>12289603nowadays few rooms on quakenet is all what's left
>>12289607I miss IRC.
That took longer than I intended since I kept getting sidetracked. One more episode with Stone this time. And then I get to do it all over again with High Noon Drifter because I forgot I was supposed to be doing footstep support.Also I learned the voidspawn doesn't permanently die if you gib him, he just takes a nap for a bit until he can unfuck himself and run away like normal. I don't think I like that. I liked being able to kill it if you hit it hard enough.
today i learnt that nightdive studios are owned by atari
>>12289808You also are going to learn that Atari is now just a brand name which is being used (primarily) by the French studio/publisher formerly known as Infogrames, and that the real Atari died for good in the 90s.
>>12289815Not even the first case of it, Atari is a hollow skinsuit for other companies to wear as a fancy outfit.
>>12289570devil cock
>>12289520I love this gif
>>12289854You, uh... got any more?
>>12289436I don't understand how it isn't already. Who was the genius who looked at the lost soul limit and went:>oh, that's clearly just an engine limitation, it isn't supposed to be like that, let's remove it now that hardware can handle it and make thus improve the gameBut at the same time:>what do you mean you wanna walk under the caco airline flying 6 miles above hell? That's literally cheating, the game clearly wasn't designed for that>>12289520I'm not racist but I think your revenant might be black.>>12289854Giger would be proud.
>>12289983>I don't understand how it isn't already.Over_under was meant to be in Boom in 1998 -- there is even space for a flag for it in the demo header in Boom 2.01 up to MBF21 -- but they couldn't get all the bugs out so it was delayed to Boom Phase 2. But that never happened, after Killough fell out with Halderman, Flynn, and Phares (well, mostly Halderman, as I understand it) and the whole thing fell apart.Apparently getting proper 3d thing clipping and actor stacks to work, all the edge cases ironed out, avoiding monsters getting stuck together and stuff is quite difficult, and traditionalist demo-recording types never wanted it enough to do the work.
>>12289165>you can play between choco/crispy/woof/nugget>I can play on Chocolate Doom servers with NuggetThis changes everything.
I just play with non-infinite height and just don't bother with demofaggotry because I play to have fun.
>>12290194On what port?
>>12290204UZDoom
Are there no Z family port with freelook without distortion and over under monsters?
>>12289570Nothin' much, here's some on and off sprite blocking.
>>12290328cute
>>12289570>working on a mod project>it's supposed to be super sekrit>but haven't posted for Screenshot Saturday in monthsuhhh... here's a WIP texture for people to wildly speculate about I guess.
>>12290328She can track my imageboard shitposts anytime.
>>12290271That's...just GZ, Zandro and UZ though?Specifically: the freelook distortion is a limitation of the software renderer, which is more relevant for ZDoom. GZ's whole thing is that it uses a hardware renderer, so you get freelook, dynamic lights, truecolor PNG graphics (as opposed to everything being limited to a palette). Everything built on top of that uses this hardware renderer to some degree.As for moving over/under stuff, I think that comes standard for modern ZDoom forks to begin with.I may be wrong, but the easiest way to get correct information is to make shit up, or at least misinform.
>>12290461>I may be wrong, but the easiest way to get correct information is to make shit up, or at least misinform.This is called Cunningham's Law
>>12290461>That's...just GZ, Zandro and UZ though?I think your parent poster must have meant "Are there non-Z-family ports with..." but confused his English to mean the opposite of his intent.
>>12290359Q2? Looks ominous
>>12290521This.>>12290461My bad.
>>122905235 five years ago I would never have guessed that Q2's modding scene is gonna be more alive Q1's. We have Call Of The Void Jam, Q4Lite and Zaero Remaster coming up this year, and Return To Perdition on next. What comes to Q1, it's just dead, safe for occasional map-center jams.
>>12290531Oh. Yeah, I don't think this is a thing, at least with software rendering. Helion looks damn near identical to software rendering and has these figured though.
>>12290541Does anything else have that with hardware rendering them?Those are my only 2 requirements for ports: freelook without distortion and over under monsters. I just like having three dimensions to work with. I don't really care if it's hardware or software rendering (I don't even know the difference, really), I'm just trying to explore some other ports. New year, new source ports and shit.
>>12286064>come back later>door is open somehow>k then
>>12290523yes
>>12286064>>12290556Few threads ago someone shilled some short maps made by some dude named Scorpio on DW. Great stuff, I love short maps.At least half of them had secrets that open when you pass by some random arbitrary line with no indication whatsoever that something happened and are also on a relatively short timer. Worst type of secret, even if the reward is quite good.
>>12290549I think that's about it, it's been a while since I checked what ports have come out. Helion and Edge-Classic let you do both freelook with no distortion and moving under/above monsters, Eternity, Nugget and other such ports also let you move under/above monsters but their freelook is distorted.Give those two a look, I guess. Edge Classic has kinda wonky lighting but I think you can tweak that.
>>12290568>HelionI heard from this like 2 or so years ago I think. They seemed to have great performance but very limited compatibility with maps not made for it. Is that still the case.>edge-classicNever heard of it, will check it out.
>>12290572Helion worked fine with just about all maps I've thrown at it, which obviously don't include port-exclusive stuff. If it's vanilla, limit-removing, Boom, MBF or MBF21 it's bound to work a-okay - and if not, report issues. The devs are very receptive to feedback and unless it's a huge problem, they'll fix it within a day or two.
Secrets are gay. Keyhunting is gay.All maps should be nothing but a series of battlearenas with timers that lock you in for a preset amount of time.
>>12290605Keyhunting is what allows for open maps with an order to the fights. Without it, you could take the path to the exit and ignore the rest of the arenas and fights.Good secrets are good and it can be fun to look for them.
>>12290605Are you the developer of Painkiller's final expansion?
>>12290615Sakura is a stupid bitch and Osaka should have won the first Saimoe instead.
>>12290605>a series of battlearenas with timersNo, split each arena into its own map, and remove the timers. One arena fight per map, all pistol-started.
>>12290626...sure. I can get down with that.
>>12289570I put together some placeholder sounds for this rotating shotgun I showed off earlier, this thing is fun.https://files.catbox.moe/skillw.webm
>>12290628It's so much better than say you have a map that's three fights, and the third one is really good, but you have to play through the first two just to get to it. Split your fights into their own maps!
>>12289353Yes, yes they are, that's why we're playing Doom right?
>>12290634Aren't you on a mental health break until February?
>>12290674Yes but I can work on something small as a way to decompress. Cus honestly I've been having fun with fucking around with stuff that isn't tied to a huge mega project.That and this is gonna give me a chance to introduce the world to an edgy OC donutsteel I've been thinking about for awhile.
>>12290674It's what creative types do, take a break from the current project, only to end up working on a new one as the entire break.
>>12290704It's true, last year I did that custom Arti skin for Make a Good Mega Man Level 3.
>new 77 map total conversion mega project for Quake>Ironwail onlyAnnnnnd dropped...
>>12290679Wait, I was joking. You're actually on a mental health break? Ha... I'm sorry.>>12290704That's more reasonable. One of my things has about 15 unfinished feature branches and yet I keep starting new ones.
>>12290718>You're actually on a mental health break? Ha... I'm sorry.Yeah, I take a break every January for a whole month to cool my heels. Does wonders for me, really.
>>12290720Yeah I do something similar, not for an entire month but I take periodic weeks off to reset my brain and do other things.
>>12290328huge that those classes are finally getting player sprites, best of luck and hope they come out well lad
>>12290565Also awful: secrets that require an archvile jump.
>>12290704This is true. I'm supposed to take a break from making shit until february, but somewhere along the way I took a bunch of scrapped ideas, unfinished code, sprite edits and some more random ideas and made them into something.https://files.catbox.moe/aj2yuv.mp4I'm not sure what to do with this, honestly. On one hand it's just recycled slop, on the other, it's kinda fun and I've made it in such a way that the Decohack code is clear and easy to read.Maybe it can be a fun way of showing off what you can do with that format and giving people some code to pilfer.
>>12290751You can never go wrong with a bigass hammer.
>>12290754Correct. This one pulps chaingunners in one hit and knocks revs the fuck out with berserk.
>>12290751I like the SSG replacement.
>>12290747ARGHIf you must do this please at least do not give them the secret area type/flag
>>12290605retarded takes like this deserve a permaban from /vr/ board
>>12290759>If you must do thisThere's never a case where you "must" do it. It's always bad and wrong and you should feel bad for making a secret or map that requires it.But I'm fine with rocket jumps.
>>12290762wdym, /vr/ is a retarded take factory. if anything he should be the foreman
>>12285119got a link/name on this? trying to search out deux ex doom map/mod/map01 just gets me Diabolus EX and doom mods recreating deus ex, rather than deus ex recreating doom
>>12285245a popular mod character coop supermod would be cool though basically it would require just getting all the mod authors to agree to shove their mods into one compatible mod, im picturing like the cast of the golf mod but as their full arsenal, something like BYOC
>>12290715>assume you mean the commieblock faggot jam>go look for an announcement post>reactions are exactly as expectedpottery
>>12290779It seems quake has more brazilians than doom.
>>12290772I'm like 90% sure that's from the anon here who was trying to make his own Deus Ex map.
>>12290779Take your drama elsewhere.
>>12285030
>>12290779Not worth getting worked up over. You're gonna find trannies everywhere in video game modding since trannies are just autists that were brainwashed into incorrectly identifying the cause of their social alienation.
>>12290781Yeah, and is mostly quakeworld fags, same situation as the old BRDoom community with that faggot loganMTM and Daniel who were always trying to defame the duke nukem community
>>12288517Have you ever played the mod for Quake (apolocheese if this mod has relation to that or anything)
>>12288295It's neat, but without a level pack that tells the story of the album or a built-in MCR jukebox that plays Three Cheers songs regardless of level pack, I feel like I'm too far outside of the target audience to appreciate this
>>12290807The plot is already handwaved into a revenge against Satan and killing everything between the two of you. It's a nice fit for urban or gothic maps.
>>12290715what features ironwail has that vkquake doesn't?
>>12285238has anyone ever made an update to this gem?
>>12290328uoh
>>12290835The 2026 "level" should be AI generated.
>>12290679Decompresing can be good sometimes.>>12290704That can happen, yes, so you would need to maintain a discipline and restrain scope if you care about your main project.
>>12290807and most monster packs dont much look good with it. problem with having a 3d mod and sprite enemies: it just looks like shit
>>12290328awesome, cant wait for ophilia. i saved some fanart from here and i still dont know if it's accurate
>>12290929I'd feel dirty doing that even ironically.
Brutalist Jam 3 is outAnyone give it a go yet?Downloading it right now but it's 2.5g and I'm on phone line internet so my dl speed is like 700kbs at best
>>12290983I think you should wait for a little while longer, anon. Slipseer's server got overloaded like two times already and people are still trying to get on.I have downloaded it but won't have time to play it until Monday. That said, I did fuck around with the development progs in some QBJ1/2 maps for fun and the combat definitely is great.
>>12290983>2.5gb of gay zoomers jerking off the ugliest style of architecture outside of postmodern AmerislopNo thanks. If I wanted to play terrible Quake maps I'd at least opt for the ones that aren't horrifically ugly.
>>12290983>Brutalist Jam 3 is out>Anyone give it a go yet?Didn't know it was out until this post so not yet.
>>12291012Brutalism is actually workable for this. Every time I see brutalist architecture, I think, man would it suck to live and work in, but that it would make a good techbase for Doom or Quake.Just guss it up with some piping and computer panels, and then some occult shit and gore. Add guns, populate with monsters, then put on some pumping or moody background music, and you're there.
>>12290951That guy's art is cool. Well-captured Thunderclap.
>>12291029Yeah, if any game is suitable to brutalist architecture for mapping it's quake. And based on what I've seen in QBJ2, I would guess QBJ3 probably has a lot of megastructure/nihei type of aesthetic instead of just straight brutalism.
>>12288517The weapons aren't using consistently sized bricks so I shant be playing.It should be using pure lego scales and bricks, so what is the point.
>>12291069Do the Lego Star Wars games use consistently sized bricks?
>>12291073Yeah, all the Lego games do. Except maybe hte really old ones like Lego Island, but I think even they do too.
>>12291075I actually didn't know that.I still think that Lego mod looks pretty charming, I just hate how the rocket launcher works right now.
>>12291081Yeah, I actually don't hate it either. I really like the plasma rifle actually. But I wish it stuck to the proper dimensions. Especially because you could easily do the textures and stuff too at the correct scale since it's all based on map units.
Does anyone have the "panquakes" meme? Or the "Quack" one with the bread.
>>12289570I began learning DecoHack a while ago and recreated the Xenos from Aliens: The Ultimate Doom using the MBF21 format.The WAD is used as a resource for Ultimate Doom Builder for mapping but it also works as its own Gameplay Mod.As a pure Gameplay Mod, a very hacky spawning system is used to make it so each map restart is different. So either a Xeno can spawn in place of an Imp in one run or the corpse of a marine with a weapon next to him can spawn in instead.When making original maps you can just place enemies in a map as you regularly would, with no random bs..I made an edited version of Aliens TC as a way to showcase what original maps would look like when using the WAD as a resource with UDB. Both WADs need to be loaded for the levels to work though..It’s basically a complete mod I’ve had sitting on my hard drive for a while that’s basically ready to be published somewhere but I’d appreciate some feedback if you guys can give some.https://files.catbox.moe/bx2xbg.webmhttps://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/fmewo3nmo48vcm21c8ud8/Aliens-TributeCode.zip?rlkey=2o9qr3ppi9dtp7tbz6th7lqu2&st=rh70iv05&dl=0
I hate these skelly boys so I make them permanently killable if you gib them or hit them with certain mod-specific damagetypes in my patches now.
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>>12291068autogynephilia be damned those troons can into interesting quake architecturei like the crusher sequence in this levellevel is The Monochromeabt 15 mins, 170 enemiesuses vores and shamblers liberally later
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>>12285032[01-03] quake's brutalist jam 3 releasedhttps://www.slipseer.com/index.php?resources/quake-brutalist-jam-iii.549/
>>12291173I feel like I've seen this room before, just in colour. Wasn't this in a previous jam, one of the Retro Jams or something?
I'm so lost, brothers of Doom.I'm trying to config a solution for playing Doom with mods. I'm currently using ZDL to manage my WADS/IWADs. I mainly use GzDoom for "full conversions" such as Ashes, and I was using Crispy Doom for all my boom-compatible / vanilla needs. But I noticed some textures working bad (for example, at the begginning of first map of Alcázar shows that weird texture out-of-bounds-loop shit). Looking for Crispy alternatives, I came across DSDA-DOOM, which runs surplisingly bad on my computer (Linux Mint, i5, 12gb ram). Should I be using other sourceports?How do YOU manage all your wad needs? Seems like I'm overcomplicating something and I want to hear your solutions for managing multiple WADS/IWADS and sourceports.
>>12291734>for managingEach port gets its own folder.IWADs all go in one folder.Gameplay mods get split according to author and/or purpose (monster pack, atmosphere enhancement, weapons, etc).Music packs get their own folder.TCs get their own folders, since they often come prepackaged with their GZ executables and Freedoom.Maps are typically put in a single folder and deleted as soon as I finish playing them, unless I really like them.>DSDA running badHappened to me with similar specs, but I'm on Win11 and apparently there was some weirdness with how it handles the way its window is displayed, I guess? I started using Nugget Doom shortly after and haven't really used DSDA for anything other than testing.Give Nugget/Woof a try, they do everything DSDA does and have more QoL features generally speaking. Could also give Helion a shot if you're concerned about performance.
>>12291734I have everything littered all over the place without any kind of organisation and I type the command line out every time.Well after the first time it's in the shell history so not every time. But you know what I mean.
>>12291734I was going to say to use hobomaster22's doom launcher and just tag everything with appropriate tags for targeted source port, iwad, complevel, etc., but I am not sure if it runs on linux.
>>12291734I'm using DoomLauncher via ge-proton/umu-run as I can't be bothered to rework my old windows setup. GZdoom mainly just because I hate switching sourceports. Been thinking about adopting nugget but I always figure out something else to do.For Quake I'm using bunch of bat files and have couple of separate source ports though.. I often play dos doom and dos quake via dosbox-staging too.
>>12291734I just use Doom Launcher
>>12291812Scythe 3??Oh wait, it's just scythe xYou had me going there
>>12291818to be honest even this small selection gives anxiety to me and I often just end up playing original Doom 1/2 levels instead.
>>12291840Same. I am burnt out, cowering in my comfort zone of 90s wads, afraid to start anything new
>>12291734I use DoomLauncher, and then Nugget and GzDoom. Also, Ultimate Doom Builder and Slade.Dividing up how you store .wads by folders is also good. Maybe something like this:>iwads>favorite pwads>pwads you intend to play>gameplay mod stuff>total conversions>music packs maybe>your own projects if you like making stuff
>>12291840>>12291853If you haven't yet, try the DTWIDS.
>>12291754Every time I hear something new about Windows 11, it's something shitty and stupid. If it's not Microslop Slop-Pilot, then it's Windows update wiping people's harddrives.I miss Windows 7 so much.
>>12291734Separate partition with compression on, mounted to /doom/doom/wads - all wads, txts and also screenshots, DOOMWADDIR points here/doom/wads/work - my maps, quick experiments/doom/demos/tmp - for recording demos/doom/demos - successful demos onlyI just cd to appropriate dir and type the command to launch the source port. Usually i use Ctrl-R to bring back previous commands. I don't use autoload.
>>12291928 (cont)I wish all ports were smart enough to write screenshots and demos to their dir like dsda does, but alas
Check out this clip! lunch_lunch streaming DOOM II: Hell on Earth! https://www.twitch.tv/lunch_lunch/clip/LachrymoseObservantPepperoniWutFace-EBrOEvQ_I2KlMua3LunchLunch taking questions about 4chan, race, nietzsche, jews, doomworld, moderators, irony, post-irony, sincerity, for 30 minutes
You guys got some wad suggestions? All the ones I played yesterday were shit.
>>12291951latest dbp is good
>>12291734>MintI don't know how up to date DSDA is on the debian repos if you're using LMDE. Shouldn't be that ancient if you're on the ubuntu repos. Maybe try reinstalling it from a flatpack?Even if you're on wayland, you should have no problems running it. Works for me without issues.
>>12291951Which ones did you play and dislike?Try out our Hard Fast Faggot Maps.
I need a Doom WAD that captures the essence of PURE masculinity without any effeminacy in it (ie no homosexuality whatsoever, just pure appreciation of masculine energy), just sheer masculine triumph and conquest without end. I played HFFM and I thought it was far too effeminate to be worthy of being part of a male Kraft und Macht. Doom has been around for so long surely one WAD aims at celebrating PVRE mascvline physiqve and the urge to shout ave caesar every day?
>>12291947>Clipped by lunch_lunchGo to bed nigga and stop taking fent.
>>12291963nigga u gay
>>12291963
>>12291963playing video games isn't aryan jumping under a train is
>>12291963DVII map31
>>12291963Sounds like HFFM_uncut is up your alley, amongst other things
>>12291947I refuse to believe you can talk about that stuff on twitch without getting banned
>>12291982>is up your alley, amongst other things>amongst other thingslaughing elf man dot jpeg
>>12291967I take a medicine that makes homosexual thoughts literally impossible to occur in me (note I take the medicine for different reasons and would not have any homosexual thoughts even if I did not take the medicine I am sure). My desires are like a sniper's bullet, never straying from the straight path>>12291974No train tracks where I live. And rightfully so I think public transport should be eliminated. But thats beside the point, I only worship the masculine essence and just want to see a Doom level that does that and is NOT GAY. There must be at least one level that simply celebrates masculine energy, that thing that is just so unique and delectable
>>12291996I already fucking told you Andrew, DVII map31
Anyone wants to play chocolate-quakeworld deathmatch?
>>12291996>he doesn't like trainsYou might be the gayest poster on /vr/.
>>12291996>There must be at least one level that simply celebrates masculine energy, that thing that is just so unique and delectableI already fucking told you Andrew, DVII map31It's literally called "THE MANLIEST FIGHT EVER"CBA to delete >>12292002
I can't believe some people say Duke Nukem 3D has better design than Doom 1 or 2, already in the first levels in the game have confusing areas that require you to find what are essentially secrets to progress
>>12291963Bro you've got your own sourceport for manly men like yourself.https://web.archive.org/web/20191217102537/http://users.zoominternet.net/~tain/ManDoom/
>>12291963Home Improvement Doom
>>12292014Can't you just do that as an option in dsda or whatever
>>12291958>Stasis21Downloaded thinking they'd be some nice, classic maps. Turns out they're like 1994 shovelware that place a hellknight, six imps, two pinkies and a smattering of hitscanners behind every door. Occasionally, there's a big space with more monsters but that doesn't matter since you get just like 2 medikits per level.>MuinacerdaThought it'd be a nice map which allows for jumping and crouching, but it has shitty weapons built into it. Turns out the rest of the map is fine, but I specifically was in the mood for some Brutal Pack and it cucked me - so I threw it in the trash.>FurnaceThought it'd be a nice Otex techbase, it was just a ball stomper with good looks. Many such cases.I did play HFFM a couple times, some good stuff there. I think I've played most of /VR/'s modern Doom projects in general, actually. Good stuff, just...you know. I want a nice techbase or hell fort to clear. Simple.
>>12291974Don't be racist to aryans.>>12291996So you're SO flaming that you need to take pills for it? Do you ever forget to take your gay medicine?
>>12290983Damn that looks cool. What sourceport do I need for that?
>>12291178The weapon changes in this are absolutely shit. Takes away all the joy of suing grenades/rocket launchers. Also a third of the maps are rehashes from previous releases
>>12292069It recommends Ironwail but vkQuake has been working fine for me.
>>12291812Are you using native versions of your sourceports or do you use the Windows versions through proton as well? That's the only way I can get DoomLauncher working
>>12292080>grenade launcherIt's the same, it just looks different.>rocket launcherYou're lame if you don't think more EXPLOSIONS is better.
>>12292085Thanks. I'm a Quake newfag, only played the original game once like 8 years ago
>>12292095>You're lame if you don't think more EXPLOSIONS is better.It makes you commit to a lame chain-launcher where each missile is weaker than the base rocket launcher in quake. I've not played a single quake modification that included an enjoyable chain-anything when the basic version is mouse1 for instant reward.
>>12292107Sounds to me like you need to achieve satori, anon. There is much to gain in building up to rewards instead of having them placed in front of you at the push of a button. Have you read your SICP today?
>>12290983wish theyd do one for quake 2 R, i feel like the strogg would fit nicely into brutalism
>>12292107the rocket launcher killed my hype for this too
>>12292130https://www.moddb.com/games/quake-2/addons/brutal-baseThere's at least a cool level in the style
>>12292107Wait, so it starts weak and you have to keep boosting it by making hits or something? That doesn't sound so good desu.
>>12292197>Wait, so it starts weak and you have to keep boosting it by making hits or something?It fires a volley of rockets instead of one.
>>12292197It fires a volley of low damage rockets (that each still use up one ammo per) and you have to aim at a target continuously. It also ruins rocket jumping. Genuinely the most bizarre adjustment I've seen yet. At least the expansion pack that introduced the chain shotgun had it do more damage per shot to compensate the drawback
>>12292206terrible
>>12285030https://www.areyep.com/RIPandMCS-Spearres-Manual.html>enemy types look like black dudes>are made of literal shitwhat did they mean by this?
>>12292209Huh. I thought they were like clay golems or some shit at a glance.
>>12290747Didn't one of the Hardfest 2 levels require an archvile jump to complete the map? And it was near the end of the map? Now that's fuckin' gay.>near end of map>instinct is to kill the viles>kill the viles>realize you're softlocked now
>>12291996So you’re like Vito from Sopranos except you have to take the medication to not suck cock?>I only worship the masculine essenceThat’s probably the gayest sentence someone posted in this general in a long time
>>12291963Touhou DOOM
>>12292273Doesn't sound very soft to me.
>>12292080>>12292107>>12292136>>12292197>>12292207>>12292208Was this some devs pet project they couldn't let go of?
>>12287610Isn't that the one using a Raspberry Pi on the cartridge? I don't see the point because that's just using modern technology to run an overclocked emulation of the SuperFX chip that's still running a gimped version of the game.
>>12292347Some people are just allergic to things they can do for free when someone "official" can do it for themIt's limited bro, Id be a fool not to
>>12292208One volley consumes and deals roughly the same amount of damage as four rockets, and it's dishing that damage out more quickly. So far, the grenade launcher and nailgun seem the most "traditional Q1" of all the weapons so far, and I suspect the nailgun is halfway between the regular and super with its performance.
>>12292362I like it more in Final Doom where the weapons in each arsenal do differ from the traditional arsenal but not so much and still had unique properties.
>>12292368Do you mean Final Doomer?
>>12292381FUCK, yes, can't believe I didn't say the name properly.
>>12292356>It's limited bro, Id be a fool not toNot sure what you mean by this but I agree with the first thing you said. This shit is designed for like fucking Funko Pop collectors.
>>12292454It's another way of driving up FOMO, gacha pull the same shit constantly
>>12292394All good. This is less like what Final Doomer's trying to do, but I don't disagree with the concept in this mod: Making half of the weapons feel less like upgraded/worse/sidegrade versions of the other half.>shotgun slot is a hitscan pistol with infinite ammo but needs reloading>super nailgun is replaced with a slower shooting and arcing stakegun, 10 ammo per shot>thunderbolt feels like a charged "bfg railgun"They also did the "shoots twice as slow, hits twice as hard" angle to the super shotgun while giving it projectile slugs like AD.
Jumping with right mouse button is so comfy. Anyone else does it?
>>12292209They look like pajeets. Might have to give this a download if that's the case
When playing QBJ3 ironwail lags for a second every few minutes. I put the pack onto a slow sd card due to a lack of disk space, so may the lag happen because of disk access? If so, can I make ironwail preload everything into memory?
>>12291963u gay af
>>12291996Nice! We finally have a new schizo in this general. That anti-megaman troll was getting annoying
>>12292638Your (sic) retarted (sic) if you think that post is remotely serious. He's clearly doing a bit.
>>12292207Eww.
>>12292508Done that since the 90s. Apparently it was popularized by Dennis Fong, one of the absolute top competitive Quake players at the time.
>>12292491More testing will happen to see how balanced it ends up being.>>12292652Seems the person you’re (you)ing is desperate for a deflect.
Eldrydge stuff rocks as always!
>>12292673Dude always manages to do something fun and worth checking out, yeah.
>>12292638It's a fucking reheated shitpost someone posted here maybe a year ago.
>>12292276It'd be a good name for a HFFM level.
>>12290835>puny elf with small staff gets pummelled by 6 big and strong maulotaursHeretic could use it's own version of HFFM. All the castle and medieval flats could probably work for a BDSM dungeon type thing.
>>12292095I mean, more explosions is cool, but if they're really nerfed then that's not so cool.Duke Nukem 3D did it right by giving you one rocket launcher which fires a single big rocket, and then the Devastator, which fired a rapid volley of mini missiles, and which are pretty fucking powerful, being like a halfway between Doom's rocket launcher and plasma. The Devastator is fucking awesome, and partially because you don't trade your normal rockets for it.
>>12292705>Heretic could use it's own version of HFFM.Minotaur Spitroast already exists.
>>12292735I'm scared of searching "minotaur spitroast" on jewgle...
>>12292721>I mean, more explosions is cool, but if they're really nerfed then that's not so cool.When it's one rocket for one mini-rocket then that's definitely not so cool. When it's one rocket for two mini-rockets that are half the damage of the one, and those eight mini-rockets are flying out faster than the regular rocket launcher could shoot out four rockets, that's different.
Anyone remember when scythe 2 ended at map27?
sunday night shitshow is up running cydonia, just search "shit" in doomseeker and connect with zandy
>>12292741I think the wad is "Elf Gets Pissed">>12292842I member
>>12292842YeahYeah I doThen I remember Eric coming back, and and a bunch of Doomworld bottom-feeders immediately fell over themselves in their haste to tell him how to convert the maps that used Boom linedef types to work with vanilla / limit removing only (because they were huge nerds who spent 14 hours a day in the demos forum arguing about complevels, so had worked out all the necessary changes years before, and had been sitting there with bug reports prewritten in excruciating detail ready to be posted at a moment's notice, in a desperate plea for recognition and approval)ANYWAYI never cared for the look of maps 28 - 30, they felt light, airy, and spacious, compared with the dark oppressiveness of maps 26 & 27And they used RROCK05 instead of LAVA1? Why!?And map30 wasn't was I was expecting at all, I thought it'd be one large area in a bunch of different styles, not separate disjoint pieces copypasted out of previous mapsI almost prefer the original versionUgh I'm so old and tired, let me die already.
>>12292875not yet
another cool heretic level, not a huge fan of most of em but once in a while theres a cool one
>>12292875>Ugh I'm so old and tired, let me die already.I will give you a warrior's death.
>>12292875I also think Erik Alm wasnt quite as detailed with the lighting in 28-30 as he was in 26&27, either.
https://heretic.fandom.com/wiki/E5M3:_Quay>noun: quay; plural noun: quays>a stone or metal platform lying alongside or projecting into water for loading and unloading ships.damn just learned a new word
>>12292968Yes and also it't not pronounced the way it's written so you could have some horrible pun like "key hunt at the quayside" as a map title
>doomwiki now requires javascriptobjective fucking downgrade, AWS was a mistake
>>12292934Yes that is very true.Not hard to see why doing maps 26 and 27 burnt him out for 2 years.
>>12285032[12-31] vkQuake 1.33.1 released: https://github.com/Novum/vkQuake/releases/tag/1.33.1[01-03] Ironwail 0.8.1 released: https://github.com/andrei-drexler/ironwail/releases/tag/v0.8.1
wtf is thisam i missing something or are you required to walk on the exploding cancer cystsso finnicky
>>12293056either im missing something or thats the most retarded segment in any doom engine game ive run across to date
>>12293056>>12293069Welcome to the Nightdive additions.
>>12293083is it? jesus christ man id be okay if it was optional and u get an item to gtfo from there but i dont its gonna make me alt f4 the game
>>12293095I MADE IT
>>12292567oh i probably figured it out. It was because ironwail was writing autosaves on that slow sd card
>>12292012Duke 3D liked to have a few puzzle elements here and there. Nothing hexen levels, though.
Hah. If you're playing with Project Malice and you set the bloodtype of whatever character you're playing as to one of PM's, you'll use them. Which means your character will sometimes have organs coming out of them when you get shot. Actually super dope, because when I play this with High Noon Drifter I can set Basilissa's blood to be one of the fire ones.
>>12292012blow it out your ass and brain too if there's anything left in it
>>12292980Oh god, what?
playing a male quake ranger exacerbates my gender dysphoria
>>12293492I think it's all in your head, things aren't as wrong as you feel like.
>>12292209>are made of literal shitWell, it says right there.>has an explosive device strapped to its waste
>playing qbj3>meandering ESL "story" based level either bugs out after the train ride or just has no clear way to progress>leave with the gohome command>next map I try is just a remake of Door to Chthon, which I don't realize until I fall in a liquid that is way too dark to even tell it's a liquid, let alone damagingYeah that's enough of that.
>>12293749>community project is a mixed bagWAO big shock
>>12293771The enemies and arsenal were getting grating, too.You never realize how much you value corner-peeking vores with an RL until you can't do it because your RL keeps firing, or those swarmers that move so far in one step that their model doesn't accurately reflect their location, and the mapper hasn't given you a nailgun to sweep across them.
>>12293778>enemiesyou mean the normal quake 1 roster? because that's what they are. they're just reskinned.to me it sounds like most of your issue is still with the one map, in which case, refer back to >>12293771
>>12293786I specifically mentioned the swarmers, the RL marines are also a pain in any map that starts you without the pistol. Those aren't reskinned Quake enemies.
>>12293778>You never realize how much you value corner-peeking vores with an RL until you can't do it because your RL keeps firingI haven’t tested it on skill 3/nightmare yet but their voreball tracking on hard has been way more lenient than on vanilla, so it hasn’t been as much of an issue. They’re also dying quicker to the new RL compared to vanilla.
>>12293807I have noticed their balls lose tracking when they die.
>>12293813They also have a harder time getting the voreballs out before they die. >>12292362 The qbj3 rocket launcher drops them during the end of their stagger animation. Pretty nasty.
>>12293230Its not about puzzle elements, its about hiding essential paths and that is dogshit game design. Of all the popular quicksaving simulators Duke Nukem 3D is probably the worst one, either that or Blood since in that game hitscanners are the worst horseshit i've ever seen in any videogame.
Okay that's done. Finally. Get nuked, wankers.
>>12292080>>12292136anyway to force load the vanilla weapons? i understand with quake mods this has always been a challenge, but there might be some good maps here ill miss out on. i just hate these weapon changes
>>12291963I am also looking for something like this>>12292080 tranny shit is exhausting they should have kept the stock weapons
>>12294178Things like Ion Fury and fancy standalone GZDoom game releases would have had a bigger chance at being deleted prior to the hack. Stand alone titles like Rekkr were different under the “homebrew releases” clause due to it being playable on oldass hardware. ZDoom/GZDoom mods skirted on all this since they still required the iwads.
>>12294206And, of course, none of that even applies to the Citadel series because they're UE4 games.
>>12294206Generally speaking: if it uses an old engine, it's allowed.
>>12294090Might be able to hack something together since the progs are built on top of Copper, which some people think is an okay vanilla + mod of sorts while others say it's an affront to the game.Either way, something will break if you load it on top of the jam since the QBJ3 progs are an extension of Copper - off the top of my head, the new monsters wouldn't be present and rotating level geometry wouldn't work. I think level scripts that give or take weapons would also break since they have different internal names.TL;DR: You need to replace the weapons' code, live with the changes or just not play it if you don't like it.
>>12294231>UE4 "retro styled" shooter>minimum requirements suggest 8gb of ramAlso that. Many such cases.>>12294237That's what Ion Fury classified as but it's discussion would still get occasionally deleted.>>12294090>>12294238I haven't had good luck mixing even simpler mods like Reliquary and the Remix Jam so it's very unlikely to be smooth sailing with this mod. Might be something I mess with down the line just to see what breaks, less to actually play the maps.
Oh shit, the caltrops are really useful for PM's spooky fuckers.
>>12293083Can you turn those off?
I thought some of you guys were overreacting to the rocket launcher in QBJ3. It really escapes my mind how among the 30+ people involved with the project this thing made it through without enough opposition.
>>12294381you must have original iwadsjust play them on a community source port
>>12294483That's what happens when the control freak sheep is part of the project.
>>12294483>I thought some of you guys were overreacting to the rocket launcher in QBJ3.About it being too weak or too weird?
>>12294513It isn't even nearly as "weak" as it is ass to use. It fires off 8 weak, slow missiles for the cost of 4 grenades over about 2s. It is therefore not only ammo inefficient, but you also need to aim at something the whole time and whatever you are aiming at may move out of the way. It is also worthless for sniping enemies. On top of all of that it also means you can't really rocket jump anymore. I find myself using it only if I'm nearing 100 rockets and I either don't have the grenade launcher or it would be unusable in the encounter. All the other custom weapons are fine at worst (rebar launcher) and refreshing (shotgun) at best.
>>12294519>It isn't even nearly as "weak" as it is ass to use. It fires off 8 weak, slow missiles for the cost of 4 grenades over about 2s. It is therefore not only ammo inefficient, but you also need to aim at something the whole time and whatever you are aiming at may move out of the way.Using the "vore standard", it's equally as efficient with its ammo: A vore normally dies to four rockets. The qbj3 rocket launcher uses four rockets to shoot eight mini-rockets, also killing the vore, and faster than the vanilla grenade launcher could. "Aiming at something the whole time" is something I'd be doing with any weapon regardless, especially with the nail guns. The missiles seem to be of the same speed as regular rockets.I've been using it when there's often more than one or multiple enemies bunched up, otherwise I'm using the grenade launcher. Not being able to rocket jump can be a bummer, and that "stakegun" has been fun towards filling the "sniping weapon" void.
>>12294519Legit sounds fucking awful.Again, Duke3D does this the right way with the RPG and the Devastator being two separate weapons with two separate roles, and they both feel awesome to use.Even Strife does it ok, its rocket launcher is pretty weak, but you get quite a lot of rockets and you can fire somewhat fast, and the grenade launcher is the real powerhouse explosive weapon, using its own ammo types, which I feel makes up for its clunky and awkward handling.I really don't feel like there's much of a good reason to even revamp Quake's rocket launcher, unless there's like, sweeping changes to all the other gameplay, I'd do maybe some cosmetic thematic changes at most while keeping its handling the same or similar. Quake's is basically Doom's rocket launcher but with even punchier feedback.
>>12294519They tried to improve on perfection and came up with cringe.
>>12294519>It fires off 8 weak, slow missiles for the cost of 4 grenades over about 2s.Sounds a bit like the Doom beta BFG
>>12294621>I really don't feel like there's much of a good reason to even revamp Quake's rocket launcher, unless there's like, sweeping changes to all the other gameplayThere's big sweeping changes to all the other weapons. The grenade launcher is ironically the one that's touched up the least next to the axe replacement, I think it just fires faster but I need to test it more.
>>12294784That looks powerful
>>12294784>>12294791Oh wait I suppose slot 8 it would be I didn't notice that at firstAnyway it reminds me of the blood sphere thing in Zen Dynamics
>>12294784Nailgun and GL are the least changed. The wrench does way more damage than the axe, has knockback, and can hit multiple enemies in front of you.
>>12294791Honestly too powerful. All weapons should get a meaningful boost from quad damage.
YOU WILL DIE A SLOW SLOW DEATH
Wolfenstein 3D is a better game than Doom because it's faster, and the enemies kill you faster, and there is genuinely more nuanced enemy variety with the 4 hitscanners of varying speed/reaction/noise/range, than there is in Doom's hodgepodge of functionally identical hitscanners + imps, bigger imps, and flying imps, all of which can't hit the broad side of a barn.Doom simply did not provide an interesting or evolved combat loop until the arrival of the extra enemies in Doom 2, which really contextualized the player's arsenal and physics-based movement system, and made combat dynamic, instead of just an easier, less refined Wolf 3D.Doom would benefit from Wolf 3D's hitscan nuances, both for the enemies (in terms of normalized reaction speeds/prefire delays, ranging from fast as fuck to sluggish, + varying ramp up / fall off, all bound to easily distinguished unit types), and the player's Pistol/Chaingun (just in terms of ramp up, giving both more utility when blasting up close).Wolf 3D would benefit from 1-2 harder hitting slower weapons with a separate shared ammo pool, and a handful of tougher fast-projectile enemies with wild movement patterns to duel using these guns. Basically like what RoTT does, if Enforcers moved like gnats and only threw grenades. And also footstep noises.Question: What existing game / mod fits my extremely particular autistic vision of snappy concise hitscan hell + wildcard projectile enemies? Besides Blood.
shut the fuck up
>>12294921>And also footstep noises.lol you had me going there for a minute
>>12294908Yep I've been slowly dying for over 17 thousand days now... it's like being digested in the the pit of the Sarlacc...
>>12294921Wolf 3d has varied combat? More like boring ass doorway combat lmao - camping in front of a door ain’t combat, it’s considered a hallmark of a bad doom mapperBoth Doom 1 and 2 have incredibly varied enemy roster and your post has no argument beyond just describing it
>>12293056>>12293069Its fucking trash. The idea could be interesting if done better in a user map, but trying to mislead and soft force it as an official map is just garbage.
>>12294908COME OUT WE WON'T HURT YOU
>>12294921>Question: What existing game / mod fits my extremely particular autistic vision of snappy concise hitscan hell + wildcard projectile enemies? Besides Blood.uuuh Ion maybe? Different tiers of hitscan hell. The problem though is the game is way too easy, but thats maybe my countless replays talking here, and then there's a lack of big bad enemy that would shake up the rules of combat. In doom 2 you have fat high tier enemies and then also Archie, one of the most well made enemies in fps in general. In Ion there's mech boss and 2 decently fat enemies but all those are way too easy to trivialise with your arsenalSW also has interesting enemy variety, with cool design of shadow ninjas and miniboses with many different attacks. The problem of that one is that the game is just underrated as fuck so you'll never see it's full potential like with Blood or Duke. God I wish some autist made Death Wish tier mappack for it
>>12294958I'd be a lot more forgiving if it were his personal thing still but shoving it into a commercial thing really makes the not so great aspects of it stand out like a sore thumb.
>>12294973Exactly. Could have been a neat little puzzle to demonstrate the lack of infinitely tall actors as a feature, but both poorly implemented and shoehorned in to what will be many people's first time experiencing the base campaign was a shitty personal glory kinda move.
>>12294996It's the kind of thing that would be cool as a community thing, either tune up Heretic or do the Heretic The Way We Remember It kind of thing.
>>12294972Ion Fury would qualify if the hitscanners' damage was buffed 20-30% and everyone's pre-fire delay / spin up / margin for missing was halved (relative to Max Difficulty).Of course it'd also help if the nuisance drones could hurt you, if Treadkills stopped spazzing enough to hit you at all, if Wendigos flattened you twice as fast, if there were more strict ammo limitations, etc.The game is basically perfect with its sound design, letting you manage stuff by ear and play both run and gun and play tactically interchangeably. Just really, really needs to /require/ that more, IMO. Arrange Mode's early game sorta gets it.Shadow Warrior's sound design and lack of hitstun doesn't really give me the feel I need.
>>12294996heretic already shows off the lack of infinitely tall actors with gargoyles and some secrets
>>12295000HTC is fun and all, but we really need more variety of quality Heretic community projects. I can't say shit though because I'm garbage as a mapper, let alone a Heretic one. Agreed that would definitely be the kind of place to put something like the pod bridge shit.>>12295012Yep, but that puzzle in particular requires it. I just get that the intention was probably a kind of "In case you didn't notice yet, this is a thing that wasn't in Doom!" showcase. I feel like ragging on the remaster is a bit of a dead horse and all, but that puzzle's usage is just baffling to me as a replacement section in part of an official product.
>>12295027it's hard to appreciate heretic if you never got pool's closed by two pinkies underneath
>>12292347I think it's neat. The SuperFX chip is already kinda cheating. I do think it would've been neater to try to stick within 90's era limitations for the emulated chip. Something like what a hypothetical SFX3 chip might've looked like if made back then. I almost got one of these, but I have the original Doom cartridge from the era, and it's neat enough.
>>12295000There's a very obscure secret in Wayfarer that requires building a bridge from explosive pods. Since the remaster also uses the "balancing" changes from Wayfarer I assume that's where they got the idea from.
Fractured Worlds needs to lay off the Sunlust sauce, damn
>>12294921> wolf better than doomnigga you retarded. you playing on a game n watch or something?
>>12295060And if that were something reserved for the exclusive episode, that would be one thing. But shoehorning it into an unrelated area of a base map in a way that any reasonable person would assume it was part of the the original design is serious main character bullshit. Nobody is going to go through the changenotes of the map modifications, they're just going to assume someone shit the bed when designing that particular "puzzle," just like they do when any of the "improvements" doesn't stick the landing. A lot of them are fine and just uncanny valley level stuff, but I spent half the time trying to remember what the original section even looked like that turned it into... that.
>>12294031>its about hiding essential paths and that is dogshit game designI don't really remember Duke 3D doing that all too often, though. Unless you're playing Duke it out in DC.
>>12294238I just want to change the deathknight sounds back to normal and bring quakeguy back instead of their donut steel oc femc. Don't understand why they insist on changing things just because they can.
>>12295195That’s startingly easy: Everything’s organized in the mod’s ‘sound’ folder, just replace the files. It’s much easier than replacing the female mug in that cyberpunkish AD mod.
>>12295174>Chelsea lost against old rivalLMAO
>>12295224Oh neat, thanks anon. I'll go do that now.
>>12295224>cyberpunkish AD modYou mean Episode Enyo or something else? Kinda curious.
>>12295254Probably meant Peril.
>>12295009hmm I gotta dig into con files and see how much I can change without having to learn that shitty code. The game is open source so it shouldn't be that bad
>>12295282Thanks, gonna take a look.
>>12295179That fucking shark tank filtered me at first, goddamn.
>>12295179I just played Duke it out in DC for the first time in 20 years and it wasn't even common there. Didn't have any issue finding my way around, except once in the FBI building.
>>12295241>Oh neat, thanks anon. I'll go do that now.If you're going that route, you may want to look into maybe changing the player model too. Using the original ranger voices knowing you're in this playermodel could be weird.
Been a long time coming, but I finally managed to uvmax go2it. Sure it's not overly hard by today's standard, but finally beating it saveless when it kicked my ass years ago is such a nice feeling.
>>12295540Oh neat, thanks anon. I'll go do that now.
>>12295604Well doneGood time tooMy proof of achievement maxdemo is nearly 15 minutes long
can somebody post a download for the new heretic + hexen expansion?
>>12295636Could've saved like a minute off, because my dumbass forgot about one of the staircase macs sides, and assumed the missing monsters were in the fake exit room vile trap.
>>12293492I usually stay out of the /pol/ crap, but out of my compassion for you I want to say that don't do it, anon. Do not transition. Being a tomboy and liking boyish and manly things as a woman is perfectly fine. It's not even that rare, and both men and women like tomboys. You like being a tomboy, but I assure that you will not enjoy being a man. You might like the idea, but you will lose much more than you gain. Being a man is a lonely path, so certainly you wouldn't even get attention by transitioning, instead you will lose it. Basically there is no point, since then it is only you alone in this cold world that does not give a shit, even if you had so many friends and social connections. As a man you cannot afford to be sentimental or soft, even if you wanted. It is fine as woman, but society will judge you as a weak, and failure, if you don't just suck it up, become cold and just continue living like a robot. It's not even a transphobia, but just basically how society has always been towards men. Outsider men have always been seen as enemies, and in this age we are all outsiders since we don't live in a clans. Basically your family will be your only clan that doesn't see you as a enemy, and as a trans man you couldn't become masculine enough to gain interest of women to achieve a family. It's not transphobia, it's the reality of all not enough masculine men. It's not about self esteem, just your wealth, strength and genes then. But still you cannot afford to be soft. That's how men are measured. You will have a much better life as a tomboy, even with your gender dysphoria. There will be no reward in the end, if you decide to become man. What ever your problems are, as a man they will be much worse. Being a man is not fun or cool. Being a man is just existing.
>>12295643Yeah I've done that too, it's easy to do one side but forget to clean out the other.Are you going to uvmax all the rest? Or maybe you've done that already?
>>12295654Yeah, I might do max demos of rest of the megawad too, actually. Maybe I'll revisit map32 for a better time assuming I'm still motivated.
>>12295641It doesn't run in anything but the new port anyway, just pirate it through the usual avenues.
I love Doom.
>>12295693Easy there, pal.
>>12295649Just thought about it after a couple of drinks man you should actually do it and as Zyzz said "Show us what you got man. Wanna see how freakin' huge, solid, thick and tight you can get."
>>12295675thanks but I don't want to run it, just extract something from the wads. What are the usual avenues?
>>12295604Good job.
>>12295696No, I don't think I will.
I don't see how you can like Doom midi music and Eternal's music, theoretical person who exists. I haven't played Eternal but listening to it on its own I should feel something but I don't. I'm sure I'd be rocking to Doom midis even if they weren't attached to memories of palying the game.
>>12295735... And I like metal music that doesn't pop like the classic Doom music does, like Cradle of Filth, Death, Deicide, Obituary, Deicide, Morbid Angel, and others. It's... I dunno. Maybe I should try to understand why people think its good and play a Doom game past Doom 3.
>>12295778>>12295778>>12295778new thread
>>12295758... and in the end I feel I'm left asking what is the "real" name of the newer Doom games if you had to name them. Quake likes?
>>12295618... get lost in the fbi building?
>>12295693Yea, me too. For 30 years now. Doom is my is longest and most loyal friend. Playing wads, making maps, researching the history of mapping evolution, and discussing with you guys. It's simply not a game, it's a way of life. id really made something special. After we are all in grave, Doom will still be here and new wads and mods will be released.
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It was fun for awhile getting swept up in the latest and greatest 3D graphics though. WHOA, look at all the foliage in Crysis and Far Cry! DAMN, look at the lighting in Doom 3 then HOLY SHIT, F.E.AR. but I was led astray.
>>12295551Yeah unfortunately I'm a total noob at modding, but I guess it's a good place to learn, I've always wanted to get round to making my own maps one day.
>>12295798And they will still be waiting for Aeon.
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A megawad I made is fully done, but I can't release it until I've drawn the title picture, the menu screen a and animated an entire trailer for it and I'm almost completely burnt out.
>>12297028Well, it sounds like you have done good work, and with goals like that, I'm assuming it to be an ambitious title.You should rest for a bit, then get back to finishing up that stuff later. Consider maybe playing another game to decompress a little?
>>12297031The shitty plastic belt piece on my work laptop bag ripped in two today right as I was crossing the street, and there was an incoming tram. Without even thinking I grabbed the damn bag because I didn't want it to get run over. Could have easily gotten killed today if I was slower. I actually expected to be run over by a truck before finishing this fucking megawad, but almost getting killed by a tram due to fucking misfortune and inability to self-preserve was not on my list. Maybe I'll slip on ice later.
>>12297067I actually understand the mindset, you put a lot of yourself and your time into that, of course you'd be protective of it. I had a similar experience with a failing clip on a laptop bag actually (only not in traffic, it just failed while I was moving it indoors), so I'm fairly conscious of that, carrying it directly instead of on the strap.It sounds like you're stressed, man, but it sounds like you're also almost finished with an ambitious project which you've really wanted to do, and I'm interested in seeing it. Like I said, try to relax some, it's good to decompress yourself from the artistic labor periodically, both just for yourself, but also because it'll help you create better after you've gotten some rest and change of pace for a while.Sometimes, I find that I'm burning out and progress stalls, so it's actually good for me to drop the project for a few weeks and then come back to it later.To give yourself some peace of mind, make some online backups of your work with something like Mega.Nz or Google Drive, to absolutely ensure that even if you were to lose your laptop, you still had a backup of your efforts done.
If you played the 2019 release of classic Doom developed by Nerve Software and published by Bethesda Softworks, you'd know that after you finish E1 and the intermission text scroll finishes they throw gigantic spoiler at you like "You just beat the twin barons of hell, now go fuck yourself and spoiler alert btw"
>>12297271oh no spoilers for a 30 year old game>todd hollensneed
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