What's the best way to plug a windows PC into a CRT with component?
>>12464609Woah buddy... Buy TV with a VGA input!
>>12464624what about a hdmi to vga cable and a vga to component transcoder? I don't really want to get another crt.
>>12464627get a computer monitor, dumbass
>>12464629why can't I use the equipment I already have?
Probably an adapter of some kind
>>12465327I ordered an easycel HDMI to component adapter. It says it can do 480i. Hopefully it works.
Getting straight component from a PC is hard and there isnt a direct way. You can get RGB and then convert it to component with a transcoder.The GBS 8100 -you can find it in aliexpress for 25 bucks- accepts VGA 31khz and converts to composite, svideo or RGB.Many of the old Radeon ATI cards have Component video outputs straight from the card with a special cable.
>>12465580
>>12465582lookin good
>>12465582Interesting - how do arcade games look on it?
Get one of those old ass GPUs with an S-Video output on it
>>12465582at least put some win9x on it, you cretin
>>12464609Sell it and get a real monitor.
>>12465776will that actually work on modern windows 10? I do have s-video input.
>>12464609I used this and a Chromecast to watch media before I connected a modded Wii with media library.
>>12465776Those are limited to 480i. You might as well just get a HDMI to composite or S-Video adapter at that point. Also OP is asking for component.
>>12464609A RGB mod might make things simpler.
>>12466374Wii can output component natively though.
>>12465591>>12465801i know it looks like shit, but it was just a test using the most barebones PC i had, and the resolution 800x600with a proper setup it looks much better than thisthis is S-Video for example>>12465674the min resolution accepted is 640x480, so if you use something like windows XP combined with MAME it should look good enoughkeep in mind this is the cheapest thing possible than isnt those awful VGA to composite converters
>>12466460At least output 480p if you can't output 480i, try to keep it as close as possible.
>>12465580Does it Do 240p?
>>12464609>componentNo, you need to output VGA from your PC and then convert it to whatever your TV has.
>>12466740For 240p you want something like an old GPU with crtemudriver. Then you can output a 15khz 240p signal through VGA/RGB.
>>12466740>>12466952If all you want is 240p you don't even need to go that far, even DisplayPort and HDMI to VGA dongles work for that.
>>12464609Might want to check this out. https://pastebin.com/5iM6wY92
>>12466971No they don't, they only do 480.
>>12466994They don't do 480i, the only 15kHz progressive modes they do is 240p (224p - 288p). Unless you have a old GPU like GTX 980 or RX 280, than you can do 480i that way too.
>>12466994see >>12466985
>>12466985>2024Is it still true?
>>12467005It worked then, why wouldn't it work now?
>>12467001Adapters don't do 15khz at all they do 30khz which is why they only do 480. >>12467002Notice how it's the same shit, you still need an older gpu with older drivers and a native VGA output. What we're discussing is adapters going from HDMI to VGA. They do not do less than 480. It's really not that big of a deal though, you can buy an old CRTEmudriver GPU for literally the same price as an adapter. If anyone really wants to prove their point and back it up I'll gladly watch your catbox video showing your PC going from your HDMI to VGA adapter to a TVs back at 240p and showing the 256x240 resolution setting in windows display settings.
>>12467018They most certainly do 15kHz. If you look in /vr/ archives there's plenty of posts of it working.https://warosu.org/vr/thread/9062842#p9066956https://warosu.org/vr/thread/10976487#p10977945https://warosu.org/vr/thread/8869242#p8876910
>>12464629Presumably he wants to play console games emulated on a CRT, which a monitor isn't as good for.
>>12467025Not a single one of those posts shows a single adapter being used, in fact only one of them mentions one at all the other mentions it's going out from the onboard VGA.Like I said, I more than welcome someone showing a HDMI to VGA adapter going to a TV at 240p. Now, there ARE adapters/DACs that can properly downscale to 240 without the proper signal coming in, but your average generic chinese one you're buying off amazon isn't going to do it and once again, you can buy an old Radeon card for $20 so why the fuck would you but an adapter that may or most likely won't work for the same price when you can get a guaranteed best bang for your buck for the same price?
>>12466453Yep, I used an HDMI Chromecast to Converter to Component for the tv, before I used the Wii directly to the TV as a better solution for retro media. Most Chromecast media is 16:9 anyway, on the Wii I focused on h.264 480p 4:3 media on my HDD.
>>12464609Easy get an agp gpu, connect the AV cables and call it a day is not that hard.
>>12467520which one would you recommend? What's the advantage of using a agp gpu over a converter box?
>>12467495Wii through component looks great as well so if you have a modded one and a non RGB TV it's probably the best solution for a lot of games.
>>12467520>>12467759Lol you're not gonna be using an AGP GPU no motherboard has had an AGP slot since like 2004 when PCI won and took over. But just buy the cheapest CRTEmudriver supported gpu you can afford. The Radeon 5450 is probably like $20, same price you'd pay for an adapter. Then you use it for output and your other GPU for processing.
>>12467141>>Not a single one of those posts shows a single adapter being usedDid you even look?>PC -> DP to VGA adapter -> VGA to RGB cable -> TV.Pic related.>but your average generic chinese one you're buying off amazon isn't going to do itAlso the link in >>12466985 says:>Known good DP to VGA adapter brands are StarTech, Rankie and DeLock.
>>12467141>downscale to 240 without the proper signal coming inAlso why would you do that if you can output 240p straight away? >you can buy an old Radeon card for $20 so why the fuck would you but an adapterWell if you look at >>12466985 again it says... >Mainly as an alternative to CRT Emudriver, which is well documented anyways with lots of good guides. There's plenty of cases where a second GPU isn't an option. Laptops, mini ITX builds or builds with no free PCIe slots, SBCs. Like I have a ATX machine and no free PCIe slots, because I already have a GPU and a 25GbE SFP PCIe NIC (three PCIe slots on board, but only 2 work because NVMe SSD disables one).
>>12468085>did you even lookAnon, pic related is the 3 links you shared. No I didn't go read entire old threads on an archive site because I'm not an autist.Regardless, I asked for a video showing everything it's the only thing I will accept. It's 2026, it's a simple request. I can give you a bunch of pictures showing nonsense going to my TV if you want, because that exactly what a non video is to me.Yes I read the link, and I replied here >>12467018 I literally see 0 point in buying a "known" working adapter when you can just buy a working GPU for the same price or less.
>>12468093>Also why would you do that if you can output 240p straight away? That's how adapters usually have to do it, because HDMI doesn't output a 15khz analog signal anon. The adapter either limits to 480 or it tries to convert it to 240. They literally have to convert it. That's literally my whole point, you need to output a proper 240p signal. That's the whole reason CRTEmudriver is a thing.
>>12468094>>12468096>because HDMI doesn't output a 15khz analog signal anon.Of course it does. The limiting factor would be the DAC in the adapter, not HDMI itself. The picture in the post >>12468085 is showing it working.>videoYou think someone is trolling you with posts from years ago? >That's the whole reason CRTEmudriver is a thing.You realize how old CRT Emudriver is? We're talking about cards that had native VGA out, there was no reason to use adapters.
>>12468109>he thinks HDMI outputs an analog signalJust go away retard
>>12468117Not analog, the DAC is the adapter turns it analog, HDMI itself is fully capable of outputting timings for a 15kHz signal though.
>>12468128
>>12468142I thought you said you're not autistic? Why are you nitpicking on wording now?I was hoping it would be clear by mentioning the DAC in >>12468109 that the signal starts off as digital. Unless you're unaware what DAC means. If you want I can make it more clear.HDMI is fully capable of outputting a 15kHz digital signal the DAC in term turns into a 15kHz analog signal.
>>12468150>If you want I can make it more clear.>HDMI is fully capable of outputting a 15kHz digital signal>digitalSo we agree. Thanks, now fuck off ESL.
>>12468156No need to get angry and start shitposting.
get a radeon 4000 series which are pennies nowadays...
>>12468172and use the din-9 pin output with one of these cables, and done
>>12468172>>12468174do you still need crtemudriver for 240?
>>12465582Lol that looks like ass>>12468027This looks great
>>12468172Will this be more convenient than using a converter box? That's what I'm using now and it works fine but there is a bit of overscan.
>>12468326Maybe not more convenient but 10x better at producing a good image
>>12464609If you already have a Mister with component out you can stream over to the CRT using Groovy Mister.
>>12468247no, these old ATI cards were famous for having TV native outputs using the drivers and Catalyst software. The only downside is that most of these drivers are 20 years old, so you will not get them to work past windows vista/7 without fiddling around
>>12468467oh cool I was worried the lowest they go are 480
>>12468470desktop resolution I mean
>>12468470>>12468472Like he said, as long as your running an old OS you can probably get drivers and have no issues. Then you're having the issue of running an old OS and not being able to use your modern software/hardware and other issues though. That's the whole point of CRTEmudriver, they are able to modify/hack the drivers to allow you to do what you need to do on a modern system.
>>12468550so with crtemudriver >>12468174 will work?
>>12468553If it's a supported GPU you're using for it, yeah. Otherwise it will work, but in it's own ways which mean whatever OS the gpu is supported til driver wise and then what that OS supports and what you've installed etc.Honestly if we have to explain all of this to you it's probably above your knowledge base to troubleshoot.
>>12467018Do you think it's a hoax or?
>>12468593It's not a hoax, it just is people incorrect about something. Shitty transcoded cheap DACs connected to an HDMI aren't doing shit and there's no reason to spend more on expensive ones that do when you can just get the GPU.
>>12465274Why do you want to plug a PC into a CRT TV in the first place?
>>12469664So I can play my dvd rips with vlc and have them look nice and sharp on my crt.
>>12469664Lot's of reasons to be doing that. Personally my PC is an emulation station connected to CRTs for the best more accurate way. I also use them for watching old anime and stuff and other 4:3 content can be nice.
>>12469979When I play 480p stuff like stargate atlantis on my crt monitor there's black bars on the top and bottom. Is that because its been formatted for a wider screen and not 4:3?
>>12470020It's encoded in anamorphic widescreen. It was so you can use the entire full resolution of the CRT at 480i with non-square pixels then squished the image down to the appropriate aspect ratio. If you aren't watching in anamorphic mode you lose that 1/4 resolution that stretching 16:9 content to 4:3 vertically gains. It's kinda confusing. Google anamorphic widescreen on DVDs and there's sure to be a better explanation.
>>12469664Why wouldn't you?
>>12468174dumb question but what if my cable isn't long enough to reach the CRT? is there a 9-pin extension cord?
>>12470192Just get RCA extensions? Just make sure they are well shielded.
>>12470195why not just get longer RCA cables?...
>>12470483we are all using our overpriced retrovision cables here at /vr/
>>12471540No we're not
>>12471540I always make my own cables.
>>12472294>i always larp my own larps
>>12473106How incompetent do you have to be to think making cables is hard.
>>12469664because old vidya look better on CRT
>>12473109>How incompetent do I have to be to cope this hard about a ridiculous larp
>>12473310Can you even solder?
>>12473871>can i even stop coping?doubtCry harder little larping attention whore.
>>12474085So you use overpriced retrovision cables instead of making your own?
>>12467141Maybe because you CANT run 2 GPUs and the old Radeon meme 240p one might fry up your PC?
>>12468027Playing NES, GENESIS and SNES without the old composite bleed of their original cables is bad.
>>12468085He could just took a lucky 480i picture with no flicker to pass it up at 240p, we were duped man.
>>12468172Thank You, now the rats at Shitbay will take notes and signal to YouTube Ecelbs to dogwhistle and JERK UP the prices.Asshole.
>>12474226
>>12474226Can't even do 480i with a 2080S. >inb4 Enterntainment
>>12468174How about a Cable that converts Component cables to regular Composite? Will that work he he hem
>>12474234>2080S2070S*
>>12474229>Doesn't show if it's a CRT or PC monitor>Doesn't show Cables>Doesn't show PC>Doesn't show dickNice try, jackass.
>>12474239It's >>12468085
>>12464627Why add vga in for noreason when you can go hdmi to component?
>>12474103>s-s-so ulmfao. Just fuck off back to your containment board you silly silly child.
>>12474405What board would that be?
>>12474224Nigga what? You can run as many GPUs as you want in your system lmao. Also why the fuck would a GPU fry your system? Holy shit zoomers are stupid.
>still no video proof
>>12474281I was thinking maybe a vga to component transcoder would be better quality than a hdmi to component converter since most hdmi component converters are cheap chink shit and everyone itt was telling me to just do vga earlier in the thread.
>>12475016Just do the gpu, it's literally like $15-20 it's the same price if not cheaper than a converter and works better.
>>12475032yeah that's what I'm gonna do eventually.
>>12475036Why wait?
>>12475060because I just got my converter thingy and I don't have a job right now so I want to save money until I get a new one.
>>12475064Go get a job you dirty hippie
>>12464609Connect a display to your PC and use your CRT's screen reflection to view the other display.It will be mirrored so you may need a mirror or a second CRT to flip it back.
>>12474406Whatever larper cope shithole threw you out and made you come here,
Is Emudriver the best way to connect a PC to a SCART TV?From what I can tell it seems to be, wondering if anyone has better methods.
>>12475392Yes, of course it is.
>>12464609A little off topic but in a similar boat. Got a little security monitor that only takes composite and want to hook up a computer.I made an S-Video to comp cable, plugged in through an nVidia 8000 series card. All I get is some waves on the no signal screen, but works perfectly fine on a flat panel. Any ideas on other options?I'd love to RGB mod it but got a few problems. It doesn't save settings so I have to drop brightness back every time I turn it on, and there's also no printing on either IC, so can't work out what jungle chip even if I go the OSD method. Might be time to order picrel and see if its any good.There's almost no documentation about the business and never found mention of the monitor which has made things difficult.
>>12475392I repurposed an old 4970k shitbox for emulation and the onboard HD 4600 has VGA that outputs 240p and 480i without problems. Just got a VGA to SCART cable.
>>12464609i bet an s video to hdmi would work, if your crt has the port.
Saw a guy selling an LG rp-57nz60p, an HD CRT. It doesn't seem to have HDMI but it does have composite, component and S-video, up to 1080i. Anyone have any experience with these kinds of TVs? How are they for vidya?
>>12475843No one plays Vidya on crt, they are just for show off and exist only to take up space
>>12475843I'd be curious to hear how they handle 480i/480p DVDs. DVDs usually look sharper on a smaller screen so if a CRT is 1920x1080p then I'd be worried about the image looking blown up. It's probably great for widescreen stuff though.
>>12475858Get the fuck off this board you ingorant nothing.Why the fuck do you even come here?You and all the other shitposting retards need to get the fuck out and stay out.You clearly aren't into this, and spew bile in thread after thread, adding nothing of value.Fuck you. Fuck off
>>12475876I'm sorry the truth hurts anon. Don't worry though, if your CRT is taking up too much space and collecting dust, I'm sure you can easily find a bigger sucker to sell it to and make a good profit while you're at it.
>>12475876Post your crt
Get the fuck out
>>12475876Post your own setup to prove you're not a larper yourself.
>>12475728Sure it's actually outputting the right resolution?
>>12474225I agree, those consoles don't look good being pixel perfect
>>12475939Yep.Full-size and closer:https://files.catbox.moe/ku2rkp.jpghttps://files.catbox.moe/9mrqvj.jpghttps://files.catbox.moe/x8fg9w.jpg
>>12475009>random underage cope rantlmfao
>>1246460999.9% of those converters only do 480i and look like garbageyou'll get a lot of people suggesting them anyways because they don't know the difference between 240p and 480i and are mentally retarded
>>12476005you need something like RGB2COMP
Why don't you guys just squint and play on a regular display? It'll blur your vision and your game will look just as shit as if it were on a CRT.
>>12476027what about motion clarity and latency at 60hz?
>>12476029>60hzA modern display wipes the floor with that
>>12475858Why do you continue to shitpost in threads? I cannot imagine spending my time going into threads about things I hate. It's so weird.
>>12475996>underageBecause I want proof? What a weird thought process. It's such a simple request.
>>12476032modern displays are awful with motion at 60hz you need at least 240hz etc and bfisame with latency, they only have good latency running at high refresh
>>12476027I borrow my mom's reading glasses while playing NES or SNES games on an emulator. They perfectly simulate a CRT's smearing effect.
>>12476027I think you fundamentally don't understand why CRT's are good
>>12476049Enlighten me.
>>12475728>>12475954How did you set it up?
>>12476052It is a status symbol.
>>12476052Enlightenment comes from using one
>>12476053I used this.>>12466985>Might want to check this out. >https://pastebin.com/5iM6wY92
>>12476054status being? you're gay?
>>12476005Frankly it's not a big deal to me if it only does 480i because I'm mainly using it with my PC to watch DVDs and I have consoles that support component natively, but now I kinda want to get a TV that supports 480p because the picture quality is supposedly better. Alas most 480p CRTs are like giant widescreen monsters.
>these niggas are ok with watching 480 interlaced videos, prefer it over regular displaysWhat causes this?
>>12476667the fact that 480p videos look sharper on a 480i display and were encoded with CRTs in mind so they look much better than they do on a LCD monitor. Same thing with watching a blu-ray on a 1080p monitor vs a 4k monitor. There's no upscaling so you get a sharper image.
>>12476667Human eyes can't see more than 240 lines anyway.
>>12476005Facts
>>12476667>let me just deinterlace and upscale this video for my 4k OLEDWhat causes this?
>>12467018>>>/g/108483379
>>12477558>he said it's 15khz so it must be 15khz!It's not and a blurry picture doesn't show otherwise.
>>12475728>>12475954What VGA to SCART cable do you use? Does it have another connect for voltage?Looking into it and I only find problems like the resistors are wrong or the VGA pin wont output the voltage needed for the SCART pin to enable RGB etc.Is this not usually a problem?
>>12475095no, all the jobs in the area are shitty so I’m waiting for some better businesses to start hiring
>>12477878>What VGA to SCART cable do you use? Self made. Sync is just joined via resistors, haven't had issues. >Does it have another connect for voltage?I use USB to get 5V from the PC it's hooked up to. I split it up to 3V via resistor and 12V via step-up converter (for auto switching to SCART and RGB). You don't really need to do the power part for it to work but then you have to manually switch the TV to AV SCART RGB in every time via remote or the source button in the front if yours has one.
>>12477878Not that guy, but I use one that was made by a local store. It uses a USB port for voltage, but I've seen others that use a MOLEX connector. I'm not sure if the rules allow links or references to stores. I don't think its a very hard process for someone familiar with soldering so you should be fine if you find one that has vga, usb and optionally audio jack, even if it's marketed as being for Mister.
>>12477878>>12477890Here's a pic. There's links to a guide and also pre-made cables in the pastebin too.
>>12466449Many TVs with component didn't support anything higher than 240p/480i.
>>12478253You can't get anything but 480i with them, not even 240p.
I have one of these. Works fine. Can set the output to a bunch of different resolutions.
>>12477891>>12477896Thanks anons, if I get my set up working nicely I will probably post a picture soon.
>>12478263Post video proof or begone!
Hi since this is the only CRT thread on the board I'd like to ask if it's worth it to track down a CRT that does 480p for playing DVDs and games with progressive scan. Also, I saw a CRT somewhere that supports 600p. What's up with that?
>>12478806No
>>12476035>Because I want proof?Yes. What a weird thought process that you stamp your foot and demand an oompa loompa now instead of educating yourself.
>>12478806The videos are still encoded in 480i.>What's up with that?Lots of later CRTs with component inputs support progressive. Used by later DVD, Blu-ray and game consoles.
>>12479421It shouldn't be hard to post proof for such a thing.
>>12477896What's that white block?
>>12479602Cheesium
>>12479602Magic crystals for signal integrity
>>12479602The 12V step-up converter encased in resin.
>>12479430Ah I see. I thought DVD was 480p, not 480i but I guess I was wrong. I guess HD CRTs have pretty niche usecases then?
>>12479687HD CRTs suck for /vr/ anyways
>>12479689Mostly true but things like PS2 and that generation in general can take advantage of them. There usually is a latency increase though.
>>12478750Video proof of what? That I own it?
>>12479797Ignore, it's the retard.
>>12479802Who's the retard?
>>12479954the video proof guy I guess
>>12479964Why is he a retard? Why don't one you guys just show him the proof so he fucks off?
>>12480104See >>12479421
>>12480110I'm confused though I did a google search and it says he's right so why be so against showing him the opposite?
>>12480127Because both your AI and him are dumbasses.
>>12480104It's funnier to keep him retarded>>12480127Kek retard #2
>>12480127>>12480130Best part is he is a CRT Emudriver fag, I've seen his setup before. He probably used AI in the first place.
>>12480127>CRT emudriver with specific Nvidia cardLOL
>>12480128Can you explain? I don't have a CRT or do any of this but I always see people explaining the 15khz stuff.
>>12480131What's wrong with his setup?
>>12480135see >>12466985
>>12480137Nothing, but he believes CRT Emudriver is the only way to get 240p/480i aka 15kHz. Which the AI claims too, both are wrong.
>>12480138So all someone has to do is show the advanced display active settings to end all this then?
>>12480138Wouldn't using converters whether they work or not introduce a bunch of unnecessary input lag?
>>12480146doesn't matter he won't believe you it has already been posted >>12468085
>>12480149No, how do you think VGA ports on old GPUs work?
>>12480152Well they aren't a secondary input they are directly on the PCB.
>>12480154this has to be bait
>>12480140What's wrong with crt emudriver?
>>12480154Anon.... I...
>>12480158Nothing? Did anyone claim otherwise? The method being discussed is an alternative to CRT Emudriver.
>>12480156Idk man every time something is introduced inbetween things in these threads people say there's input lag and it's terrible.
>>12480161Well the post >>12480131 replied to my question and said hes a crt emudriver fag and his setup used ai so I thought it being claimed as bad. I'm just trying to learn about this stuff.
>>12480154>>12480163it doesn't matter if the in-between thing is on the PCB or inside a dongle end result is the same
>>12480165Never implied it's bad.
>>12480163>>12480165might want to check out the /g/ thread linked here >>12477558more in detail explanations
why are weebs so aggressive and weird
>>12480179They get bullied irl so they act like tough guys on the internet, it's been that way for at least 20 years.
>>12480632>it's been that way for at least 20 years.Ironically it used to be like that 20 years ago but the horrifying truth is that weebs, furries, gamers, apple fags and actual fags, queers, etc are the norm in the real world now and they don't get bullied and that's why they have become the norm. At least in the west, maybe in Russia, China and related there's still hope. Not /vr/ or thread related though.
>>12480645They're not the norm here, they still get bullied here. But now maybe it's because some have ran unchecked for so long they think they can just be huge pieces of shit without repercussions, like the child screaming for tendies meme.
>>12466985This only shows super resolutions, but can those adapters do like 256x224? Like super mario world?
How do I even connect a 3080ti to a TV? I got a Sony KV-29FS110 years ago for some retro gaming.Not my picture, just something I jacked from reddit, but its the exact same model.
Get a Sony KD-34XBR970. It has HDMI input. Or a Toshiba 36HF73. It has DVI input. A lot of the larger last gen CRT had 'modern' inputs.
>>12481242You don't.
>>12481252God I wish.
>>12481258Except I do.
>>12481262No, you don't.
>>12478263I use this and I've used my mister to do it as well.
>>12481242converter box or get another gpu just for vivo output
>>12481147Anyone?
>>12468470you still only get 480, it's just 480i. No option for 240p on those.>>12466994are you sure you';re not thinking of a scaler? Any decent adapter doesn't change the video mode, just the signal format. You put weird resolution in, you get same weird resolution out.
>>12481147>>12481431It's pretty obvious you're the same faggot who thought those adapters don't do 240p. Your post on /g/ was literally minutes from your post here with nobody else talking about the topic. Using super resolutions isn't a adapter limitation, it's a driver limitation with GPUs that don't do low pixel clocks. Any GPU that does low pixel clocks will also output non-super resolution 240p. But why would you? I don't know why you think super resolutions are bad.
>>12481252those have horrible latency and internally upconvert lower signals awful for /vr/
>>12481498>It's pretty obvious you're the same faggot who thought those adapters don't do 240p.Obviously. Just stop replying to him. I didn't reply on purpose.
why does my post say deleted now.
>>12481498Huh? So can I play mario at it's proper resolution using an adapter or no?
>>12481613I don't know what bickering is going on here but yes you can
>>12481680>I don't know what bickering is going onthen shut the fuck up
>>12464609i use one of these scalers they work really well, does 1080p or any res below to 480i, 720, 1080i etc https://www.amazon.co.uk/EASYCEL-Aluminum-Component-Converter-Function/dp/B07VGWL5P1only cheap scaler ive found that works, i output 800x600 to my crt
>>12465580>Many of the old Radeon ATI cards have Component video outputs straight from the card with a special cable.i have a card that supports this it looks like shit kek
