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=== CURRENT PROJECTS ===666 Minutes of /vr/Game : Doom 2 | Format : Vanilla (Limit-removing)Resources & Rules : >>12687710Repo: https://gitgud.io/GreenAnon/btsx-project/An Eternity of /vr/Game : Doom 2 | Format : Eternityhttps://www.doomworld.com/idgames/?id=22025=== NEWS ===[08-15] Abyssal Apocrypha is outhttps://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/159769[08-12] 2x2 project has been releasedhttps://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/159719[08-11] Ironwail v0.8.2, with Dawn of the Machine compatibilityhttps://github.com/andrei-drexler/ironwail/releases/latest[08-08] Doom II Tracker Music CP is outhttps://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/159626[08-06] Ex-employee leaks canceled Quake 4 expansionhttps://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/159593[08-06] Official Quake port gets free new episode[08-03] PPSS3: Down Unda! is outhttps://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/158985[07-30] Reelism 2 TURBO: Expansion Pack 1 trailerhttps://youtu.be/_m_lXJj0ocI[07-29] UZDoom v5.0.0 RC1 is now availablehttps://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=81618[07-27] Malevolence re-released with MAP06 switch fixedhttps://www.doomworld.com/forum/post/3044962[07-25] Helion v1.0.0.0 releasedhttps://github.com/Helion-Engine/Helion/releases/latest[07-23] Tremor, 32-map classic Quake campaign, released after 6yr developmenthttps://www.slipseer.com/index.php?resources/tremor.614/[07-21] Bring Your Own Bottle jam is outhttps://www.slipseer.com/index.php?resources/bring-your-own-bottle.613/[07-19] Original Hexen development files recoveredhttps://github.com/svkaiser/hexen-development-files[07-17] Mega Man ZDoom is outhttps://mengo329.itch.io/mmzdoom=== PREVIOUS ===https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-vrTgPGmlLwdO5VHHCJMxmRD05E6XlNmqHIN8aykRG0TO SUBMIT NEWS, REPLY TO THIS POST
Sorry for the hiccup guys, the captcha check has been an especial ass to me today. It lets you text promises, but fails you the instant you try to deliver on them. I fucking hate the internet.
The captcha is essentially an iq test which i fail a lot of the time.. and i feel like a doofus.
>Try to replay Scourge of Armagon>Hey, this is fun, why did I only play it once?>The spike mines show up, hidden on high ceilings and spawning behind you to silently kill you instantly>Tiny rooms filled with fiends>Vores, vores everywhere>The atmospheric music is replaced with some generic stuffOh, oh right.
>>12766237It's more cinematic but I wouldn't say generic. It's quite flavorful, just not the Quake you'd expect.
Whats that wad about dementia called? It has completely slipped my mind again
>>12766237one nailgun shot bro
>>12766320Huh? Who are you? Why are you here? Why am I?
>>12766352https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CPol6D5gDqo
>>12766321Yes, but half the time they're above your head when you enter a room or spawn behind you, it's kind of bullshit unless you know exactly where they are. It's certainly not Quake's best content.
>>12766413no they arent youre right but I do like the occasional annoying enemy on the roster. It has amazing tech base levels though levelords stuff is solid
>>12766320Since when "I love doom" anon has stopped posting? It couldn't be that Quake or Build games has took him over, otherwise he would've claimed so in the way of "I love Duke", or "Quake", or something. I'm getting worried.
>>12766514Speaking of missing anons, what about the guy who secretly lived in his workplaces basement for years? How's he doing? The one with the elephant plushie from his dead fiancee?
>>12765314>>12766071This was discovered by kgsws in late 2020[1]. It has yet to reach the same level of wellknownness as the likes of "berserk lasts the whole level" or "blue armour absorbs more damage than green".________[1] https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/118158-undocumented-vanilla-bug/
How awesome is psydoom. Love the pants shitting psx vibe
>>12766514IIRC, he stopped because he was led to believe the system was recognising his repeated posting pattern as spam/abuse. I think he was mistaken but was not able to convince him.
>>12766541Funny how people still keep learning new shit on occasion about such an old and well loved game.
>>12766571Indeed, did you know only two years ago they found an entirely new type of ghost monster?https://doomwiki.org/wiki/Ghost_monster#Boom_ghost_monsters
>>12766519that guy made it out and got a girlfriend too I think
>>12766598He also got a new job as a professional Fred Durst impersonator.
Were the weapon/enemy models in Scourge & Dissolution given HD models in the KexQuake update yet, or are they still chunky?
>>12766643Still chunky from what I can tell. There's a reason they replaced the model for the laser cannon entirely in the new expansion.
>>12766646Is it a rights issue that's preventing them? Because I thought one of the studios that made them (I can't remember which) is defunct.
>>12766646I get the idea that after DiOTM used only base Quake 1 enemies and weapons, they really wanted to finally use the expansions' content for DaOTM like they did with COTM in Quake 2, but only got as far as taking Dissolution's Lava Men (formerly Hephaestus) and making a legally distinct laser cannon from Scourge. And then from there they just made all new weapons and variants of the OG enemies as consolation. Maybe in the third "X of the Machine" Q1 expansion in 2031 they'll finally manage to bring them all together. But until then, I'm more interested in seeing if the inevitable Quake 2 30th anniversary expansion will finally include the PSX mod, make actual usage of Iron Maidens and the Black Widow, and unrape the Railgun and ETF Rifle.
Can we post DOOM reaction images
>>12766715
>>12766696It was odd how they added ONE SINGLE black widow into the Quake 2 episode and it wasn't even a dramatic reveal, it was just dicking about in a sewer part.
>e4m6
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>>12766696I like DaOTM with it having new enemies and stuff unlike DotM, but I'd love to have the gremlins, or something like the dragon with an HD model show up.
>>12766858Is this VR? If yes and it's your vid, how is the experience? It looks fun as hell but I can't justify spending the money on a setup. Maybe a used older one.
>>12766938Yeah, I played it on Monday with some anons from vrg. I think VR works pretty well, it really lets me appreciate the scale and atmosphere of maps more, but things like strafe jumping is hard hence everyone running in a line at a set speed.
>>12766943It looks fucking fun for sure
>>12766943Why is it every time I see VR footage it's always at an angleAre the headsets that heavy or does everyone have a neck lean they just unconsciously ignore?
>>12766320I think it was either Sigil or Sigil II.
>>12766946You hit the nail on the head
>>12766541>berserk lasts the whole levelErm, actually, it doesn't last the whole level, it lasts for 122,713,351 seconds.
>>12766945Watching it and Perfect Dark VR have been the only times I've said "man I want that."
>>12766962Which is about four years. Are you going to spend four years in a map?
>>12766979MAYBE YOU DON'T KNOW ME OR WHERE I'M FROM
Eviternity 2 map 24Probably the hardest map so far. Kind of annoying to single-segment because the hard fights start 15 minutes in, but I only died there once so I won't complain. The secret BFG helps a lot.
>>12766981Damn that must be one hell of a map.
thy flesh consumed was painful
>>12766760That was the most brutal pistol start for me of all of Doom 1.
>>12767019i would probably like the map if there wasn't a cyberdemon at the end
>>12767042Pretty sure I beat him with peekaboo shooting, which didn't feel very satisfying.
>>12767046i did the same but the rockets had a hard time autoaiming which was a pain
Nearly done saving all the babes in the first 3 eps of Duke. I've learned to use the shrinker/freezer to safely pick off the enemies and lure them away before teleporting all the babes out and away from the bombs. Pic only semi related since I'm much further in.
>>12766962I don't understand why you'd code something like this. Why assign it a timer at all?
>>12767106why write a new code function for how long something lasts when you can just repurpose code from another powerup and say it lasts over a year (so far longer than a player should ever spend on a single map) and then move on to a more important task? Same result on the user end - less work flow.
>>12767114Is it really a "new function" to just activate a thing via toggle?
>>12767075>Rescue the babesWAT.
>>12766962I'm surprised no source port has ever fixed that, if only to be able to write "Bug fix: berserk no longer expires after four years" in the release notes.Of course it would need a compatibility option to preserve the old behaviour in existing demos. Maybe MBF2y will do it.
>>12767042>>12767046>>12767060Doesn't the map basically give you a BFG and an invulnerability for that?
>>12767135it's a mod called save the babes:https://kidmarscat.itch.io/savebabesYou can set it to save only the ones who have been clearly captured but I am using the rescue all babes version instead.
>>12767143I never got them. Probably would've been less satisfying with the invuln.
>>12767106If I'm understanding your question correctly, there is no explicit timer for berserk, the maximum is an artefact of integer overflow.So, yes, the powerups are all gated by timers--simple integer variables, updated once per game tick, in p_user.c. Their values are interpreted as flags: if non-zero, you have the powerup, otherwise you don't. Instead of being set to e.g. 60 seconds and counting down like the other powerups, berserk is set to 1, and counts up. The value is used to in a calculation in st_stuff.c to gently fade out how red the screen is tinted.I don't feel like explaining integer overflow in full--I'm not an LLM, after all--but it eventually reaches the maximum value of a 32 bit integer, whereupon it wraps back around to zero, after which the game no longer thinks you are berserk, and stops counting up.The maximum value is 4294967295 which divided by 35 (the number of tics per second) gives the value the previous fellow said. Dividing it further by 86400 (seconds per day) gives 1420 days, a little short of 1461 which is 4 years.
>>12767157I like to just leave the podgirls to their fate.
refuelling base was made by a twisted man
>>12767175But think of the medical industry's profits! If saved, they'll need years of therapy and counselling! Cha-ching!
>>12767178If you can't handle Tom Hall's halls, you're not a real man.
>>12767169>I don't feel like explaining integer overflow in fullThat's OK, anon, I kinda get it (I have a teensy bit of coding experience). I just didn't know this was a case of that. I'm still not clear on if they intended the powerup to last forever or not, if they coded it to count up from 1. I'm grateful for it though, because berserk is a shame to take away at all. Does it really harm balancing if I can gib an imp with my fist past the 60 second mark? I don't think so.
>>12767179But WHAT IF in reality they're consenting adults. The "Kill Meee" is just the cringe they feel around Duke.
>>12767187>I'm still not clear on if they intended the powerup to last forever or notGiven that the limit is absurdly high, and that it only exists as a side effect of the implicit maximum value of a machine word rather than being explicitly written in the code, I am confident in stating that they intended it to last the remainder of the level.
>>12767183i'm getting there slowly
>>12767178At least there's a shotgun right at the start.
new wr?
>>12767178My favorite D2 map. Tom was really onto something, they had to fire him before Doom 2 maps got fun.
>>12767195Would she rather be stuck in an alien slime cave with a man or a tentacle monster?
>>12767221You're fineIf this is your first playthrough, take your time, savour it as much as you can. You won't get a second chance to play the game for the first time, after all.
>>12767157Duke Nukem 64 pioneered this idea, and I'm all for it. Duke should be saving babes, not blowing them up. It's also a fun thing to tally.>Did you find all the babes? NO? Search the level a little better, bro.Duke Nukem Zero Hour even had unlocks based on finding all the babes in certain levels. And rescuing gave them double-entendres to tell Duke.>"OH DUKE, I KNEW YOU'D... CUM."Genius.
>>12767294>Duke should be saving babes, not blowing them up.Interesting how 3DRealms said "no" and also placed some items where you'd have to kill them to get them.
>>12767195Kek
>>12767306>placed some items where you'd have to kill them to get them.Everyone gives Spec Ops: The Line a lot of shit for that white phosphorus scene and its overall message to the player, but 3D realms did it first.
>>12767306Some enemies also only spawn in when you kill babes so it's a necessity if you want to get 100% kills
>>12767319kek
>>12767319>that white phosphorus sceneThere's something morbidly amusing about the thought of Duke walking through the charred remains of bimbos with huge tits and then blaming it on the aliens.
>>12767320the enemy counter is broken though, there's no point going for 100%
>>12767320>Some enemies spawn in when you kill babes and are needed for 100% killsI knew Toby Fox was a hack. What other games ripped off Duke Nukem 3D?
>>12767290it's my first time actually sitting down and trying to complete every d1+d2 level, then i'll play the master levels, plutonia etc
>>12767320This isn't true. If it were, I'd never have gotten 100% kills on Hollywood Hollocaust or Red Light District because I never kill the babes. Monsters unspawned by killing babes do not exist as far as the level tally is concerned.
>Scourge of Armagon beatenMaybe it was playing it in the Nightdive remaster that made it unfun, or maybe it was that way from the get-go, I don't know, but I didn't care for it all that much and I don't remember loving it originally.Is Dissolution better? I remember it being better.
>>12767362>master levelsPro tip: don't.
>>12767336Is it? I wasn't aware of Duke having enemy count glitches. I only know of Rotfish in Quake.
>>12767376I don't remember having that much fun or strong memories with either official expansion. Though I did only play each once a piece.
>>12767372>I never kill the babesAh, my opposite is here.I ensure they all die, unless it;s funny or cinematic to let them live, like blowing up the rocket they're stuck in on the first secret level (come to think of it, you killed them too to leave that one).
>>12767383are they that bad?
>>12767376Armagon is easily the better of the two. I genuinely like it better than the base game.Dissolution is very jank. Even its best levels feel like they weren't fully realized.
>>12767396Not him. They're a mixed bag, IMO. I think people blow it out of proportion. Just play them once and form your own opinion.
>>12767234A question of our era. Really makes you think, don't it?
>>12767384yes, it's broken in Eduke and all other ports. The game counts enemies that only exist when the map starts, when something new spawns in the count just goes up. Slimers and eggs can sometimes break it and the counter will go overflow. Some maps have 1 or 2 enemies you won't be able to kill ever, like Red Light District. It's a multitude of problems. I never cared for 100% kills in Build games, just feels wrong and tedious
I like how the protozoid slimers can eat corpses. Has his behavior been done in Doom? I want to design a level where you keep one as a pet. You feed it corpses and watch it crawl around an enclosure...and that's about it. Maybe throw some cocooned babes for decoration inside.
>>12767480>Has his behavior been done in Doom?Project-Malice has an enemy like that called the Corpse Eater>Starts off as a melee-only imp-tier enemy with less health than a Pinky.>However, it can eat corpses of enemies you've slain, exponentially increasing its health and even scaling up its sprite a bit.>If left unchecked for too long, it will wind up having more health than a Baron of Hell.He can become a tanky son of a bitch, though. Maybe I'll pop into the Discord and suggest it evolving into a completely different monster after eating enough enemies.
>>12767490I love Project Malice. I guess I haven't seen that one yet. I've only been playing it for a few days. I'll see if I can search inside and figure things out...somehow. Otherwise I guess I could learn Build.
>>12767490If you do do that, can you also suggest/request they give -CANUSEWALLS to the small maggots and flies? I always thought it was silly maggots could open doors.
>>12767480they can eat living enemies too
>>12767532Really? I don't know if I've ever observed that. Enemies in the 'don't kill' me state or full health?
>>12767527>CANUSEWALLS>ANUS
>>12766982Fuckin battleship? Fuckin battleship that you get to actually USE? Fuckin saved, ty for posting
those alien bastards payed for taking our chicks and now I'm gonna give their whole species a goddamn abortion
>>12767332it is their fault once they start surrounding the women in a dozen bombs and literally shooting the women or a bomb upon seeing you before you can even see they had a hostage forcing you to reload. You have to pull the aliens out one by one or snipe with the cryo beam. Had to noclip to get one girl on Rabid Transit because there was no way to turn off that barrier.
>>12767556Yeah, in fact it happens in one of D3D's default demos taking place in Ep 2. They gobble up certain enemies (not Octobrains, not drones, and some other exceptions) But you might not see it much because eggs are usually around Octos more than anything.
>>12767556I've seen them eat full health lizard troopers, enforcers and pig cops.
>>12767490I love this idea for an enemy. It's another method of making a used battlefield and making it newly dangerous... like an Archvile but the context of the fight has changed.Protozoid slimers never live up to this because they can only ever have 1 HP.
>>12767639Cool. I love the idea of revisiting old maps but something is terribly different. Duke Nukem Zero Hour did this right out of the box thanks to time traveling to the post apocalypse.
>>12767652> actor->target == actor
>>12767648That gives me ideas...>>12767646Thanks for the info.
>>12767490How about the enemy divides in mitosis when it's consumed a corpse. In a body littered den that could become a nightmare very quickly even at such puny health.
>>12767716Would it be better if they eventually started eating each other and turned into a big one? Would also be cool if they could eat the player's corpse and it prevented resurrection.
>>12767639Very cool.
>>12767716>>12767726Seems like you could easily do 2 varieties... one that splits and one that grows.
>>12767396>master levels>are they that bad?Christen Klie's (CATWALK, COMBINE, FISTULA, GARRISON, SUBSPACE, SUBTERRA): crash course into 90's kind of amateur mapping.Jim Flynn's (MANOR, TTRAP): chock-full of experimentation, could do with some more polish.Tim Willits' (ATTACK, CANYON): don't leave an impression and are easily forgettable.Tom Mustaine's (PARADOX): a solid sampler for what you could find on the renowned megawad projects from that era.John Anderson's (GERYON, MINOS, NESSUS, VESPERAS, VIRGIL): if you ever wanted more of E4M7, it's all here in a consistent package.Sverre Andre Kvermo's (BLACKTWR, BLOODSEA, MEPHISTO, TEETH): best of the worst to various degrees, very uneven but also memorable.The most strikingly bad part the Master Levels is in the poor choice of its name.>>12766568I often get pestered with mail verifications and claimed site abuser, eventhough I don't post often, so you might be right.
One time I was playing Duke Nukem as a kid and my mom decided to sit in and watch me play. Thankfully it wasn't the red light district or she would have been mad, but I later learned she just thought Duke Nukem was hot.
Forgot to tell, there's this things on Mist map, no idea if it's something intended or just a visual glitch. I only played trough this map on Ironwail once and could notice them.
>>12767818
>>12767818>>12767821Wait a minute, I just realized it could be projectiles from the knights, lmao.
>>12767775Just have the big one erupt into little ones upon death. The way a mother spider erupts into spiderlings if you step on her.
>>12767905BACK WHERE WE BELONGBACK WHERE WE BELONGQUAKEFAGS SIT DOWNBACK WHERE WE BELON--ahem, sorry. That just came over me. I do apologise.
>>12767362>>12767396They're not absolutely despicable (barring one level), but time has not been kind to them.I'd say that the way some releases bundle all the levels together into a megawad does them a big disservice, they really play better Pistol Start (again, barring that one level).Broadly, they're above average user made levels of their time (except the one level), but really not far above average. Final Doom and works like Memento Mori pretty quickly outshone the Master Levels.It's worth checking out for the history, but maybe only do one level a day, few would fault you for getting bored with them.>>12767556>>12767646>>12767648>>12767705I deadass had a Protozoid Slimer gobble up a live Mini-Battlelord once, unendingly goddamn funny to behold. Completely accidental and couldn't believe my eyes, didn't even know they could do that.
>>12767946I don't know shit all about video editing, but that does sound like a fun project for youtube: "Will Protozoid Slimer eat it?"
:)
>>12767940Please, I'm slow to the punch, wait for me to beat Shub-Niggurath in DotM
It's time for Wednesday Night Wipeout!Come play some SRB2Kart!How to join:Download version 1.6 of the game: https://github.com/STJr/Kart-Public/releases/download/v1.6/srb2kart-v16-Installer.exeGet the custom client we use: https://codeberg.org/NepDisk/srb2k-neptune/releases/tag/Neptune2.5.1Get the mods either automatically in-game or at: https://macgu.fun/repo/srb2kart/Connect to macgu.fun (either use connect in console or "specify ipv4 address" under Multiplayer)>I HAVE TO BITCH FAST AND TEXT CHAT TOO SLOWWe also have a Mumble server!Address: 51.161.34.159Port: defaultPassword: endoom>I heard this game supports proximity chat, are we using that?No.Pro tips: https://pastebin.com/YV6biqxq(This is out of date and written for a different server, but it still has a lot of useful information.)
>>12767940One of these a Quake mod so good is going to come out that you Doomniggurs won't be able to hate on it anymore.
>>12767905>dumb secretsWhat are the dumbest secrets you've seen in wads?
>>12767992That superchaingun is a fucking beast. Completely changes the value of bullets.
Never saw this alternate perspective rendition of the Doom cover art, thought it was neat.
I'm pretty new to playing Doom wads and I usually get my ass completely blown out in most arenas. Do you guys have any wads that have a good balance of fun gunplay without flooding small chambers with cacodemons?
>>12768121One of the few I missed in my original run through Ultimate Doom was the one halfway up the stairs to the chainsaw pillar on E1M2. It's an unmarked wall hiding a tiny cupboard, inside another secret. And all it contains is 4 armour bonuses.
>>12768129Heh, yeah I think that's been the thread image at least once. It's cool.
>>12768007Taking my time here, too, finally made it to the hub.
I'm at map 15 of TNT, please tell me this gets better later.
>>12768090AD already exists.Honestly, I never found Doom wads to be that great from a level design perspective, Doom to me is all about the combat because it has nothing else. Quake on the other hand has both combat and good level exploration due to the verticality.
>>12768130>https://dsdarchive.com/wads/perdgateeasiest megawad I've played, but pretty well done>https://dsdarchive.com/wads/scythe>https://dsdarchive.com/wads/scythe2>https://dsdarchive.com/wads/ksutra>https://dsdarchive.com/wads/eternal>https://dsdarchive.com/wads/epic2Must-play classics>https://doomer.boards.net/page/dbpdecoration maxxxing
>>12768167>AD already exists.As visually stunning as AD maps are, I just don't think the mod does enough to shake up Quake's gameplay. It really needed some brand new weapons, not just 'axe but better', 'lightning gun but worse', and 'shotgun but wastes your ammo faster'.Maybe something ARCANE like magic staves that throw enemies around or gauntlets that leach health or enchanted crossbows that act as railguns. Anything actually new.
>>12768176Thanks a lot brother.
>>12768167>Quake on the other hand has both combat and good level exploration due to the verticality."Doom wads" can extend to "GZDoom slop", maps that aren't beholden to vanilla Doom restrictions that can look and play great.That said, Lost Civilization (even though it's Boom) and Ter Shibboleth are two peas in a pod.>>12768186>Maybe something ARCANE like magic staves that throw enemies around or gauntlets that leach health or enchanted crossbows that act as railguns. Have you tried Mjolnir yet? You've just described some of its weapons, funnily enough. Some may argue it adds "too much" new stuff but I think it's incredible.
>>12768191>Have you tried Mjolnir yet?I have. The new weapons are cool (if lacking in polish), but there really are just too many of them and everything to do with encounter design seems haphazard so none of them really get a chance to stand out. I think I also had a bug where some of them would just vanish between levels too. Some vanilla Quake weapons just need to be replaced I think. Throwing the kitchen sink at the player doesn't help, it's just overwhelming.
>>12768121scythe map15 secret exit
>>12768205>Some vanilla Quake weapons just need to be replaced I think.I only really have a problem with the two nailguns, I think the game could do without one or the other. I'm indifferent towards the shotguns: I wouldn't mind if they shot slower and hit harder but I like how they feel as is. I'm fine with the rest.
Doom 64 map 5 took me a good half hour. Made me feel that 5 second forgetful confusion. I didn't realize there was a hole in the blue key cage ffs
Is there really no way to get these? inb4 grenadejump
>>12768227anybody brought Q3 weapons into Q1?
>>12768191I was gonna load up Mjolnir/Tomb of Thunder now that I finally beat Heretic/Hexen since Tronyn was a big fan of Heretic. Played a little of Mjolnir prior but I think I might appreciate it more now.
>>12768265>anybody brought Q3 weapons into Q1?I know they brought Q2 weapons into Q1 via Q2M.
I finally got the trune of sacrifice. Is it worth playing for the rest of the trunes? Does the game get progressively weirder as you collect the remaining trunes,or something?
>>12768176>Perditions Gatenta but i just read up that it was supposed to be in Final Doom, how does it compare to TNT and Plutionia?
>>12768332I think its a really solid 90s megawad for the most part, but you can really tell the final episode was rushed to hell.
why can't babes be real
>>12768039GGs
>>12766240>Dimension of the Machine has really poor enemy encounters compared to both Past and Dawn.If only because it rarely pulls any dick moves where it drops a wall and lets 2 shamblers into a small room with you. I'll personally take some beautiful levels with normal enemy placement over monster closet "gotchas."It could have gotten much harder than it did though, I will grant you that.
>>12768332IMO, while its not outright bad, its easy to see why perdition's gate didn't make the cut. The early levels are decent, but its rarely a proper challenge and most levels throughout are on the shorter side. The latter half is also pretty rough, with a streak of maps that were clearly made as slot fillers.
>>12768332I think it's kinda weak. Lots of very samey levels, and largely uninteresting visual design and gameplay. There's glints of goodness, but I did not like it much overall.One of the parts that offends me is that it has a number of neat sets of textures, which are used some, but only VERY briefly, then they go away forever and it's back to Tom Mustaine's boring as shit and formulaic brown bricks levels again. Perdition's Gate clearly needed some other level designers on it with more imagination, to actually exploit its variety of textures more and to break up the gameplay more.
>>12768636I think at the time that they wanted to offer it to iD, PerdGate was still only like 10 levels or something like that and far from finished, and who knows what actual state it was in at that time.The statement they got from iD was that "the window of opportunity had closed," which suggests they were just too late to offer it, so it may not even have been looked at at all.>>12768161It does, and it also gets worse too.
>>12768613I was going to cite some encounters from DotM that were just plain lame but>It could have gotten much harder than it did though, I will grant you that.I'll just take this and chill.
>>12768090As a Doomniggur, I always loved Quake.
>>12768161I will always hold the view that TNT is carried by its concepts and ideas more so than its execution. There are good maps, but you can definitely feel that it was made in 1995. I ultimately prefer Revilution and Devilution, thanks to their more modern interpretations.
It's "id", not "iD".
>>12768770its actually id not ""id""
>>12768227I would trade a nailgun and/or a shotgun for something more radically different.>>12768270That's honestly better. Q2 had a funner variety than Q3.
What the fuck are these green flashing DIPSHITS in Q2 what the fuck holy shit they just do not die. Are they immune to anything except explosives? Fucking who the hell thought this was a good idea.
>>12768774Also Q2R is better than vanilla Quake 2 because the Berzerkers are actually a threat.
>>12768191>That said, Lost Civilization (even though it's Boom) and Ter Shibboleth are two peas in a pod.>Lost Civ is a sprawling integrated trek across a cohesive world>TerShib is a bunch of disparate levels with no through connectionThis comparison doesn't make sense.
>>12768770>>12768772It's DooM not "Doom"
>>12768787Is it also MetallicA?
>>12768787dewm
>>12768719Is Tom Mustaine related to Dave Mustaine?
Don't know if it was posted here two months back but Door Stuck got a remaster. No AI. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rVlXcasN74k
>>12767905>balanced cacodemon>ogres stuck>cthon balls updated>nigger love
Not news worthy, but
Will DooM 65 ever be released?
>>12768872Hopefully never. Doom 64 was such a downgrade compared to the incredible Doom 63.
>>12768817I don't think so.
playing AMCsquad, i'm at the last battle in Atlantis mission in chapter 5. wiki says that it's supposed to be a gauntlet of multiple waves, but after first 4 ghost enemies nothing seems to happen. do i need to do something manually to progress? i installed the latest version as well, but having transferred the progress and reloaded the autosave, nothing happens still.god, i really don't want to replay the whole level.
>>12768872Yeah, right after Doom 94.
He can't get out.
>>12768875You need to understand that the development of D64 was complicated by the merging of Tanganyika and Zanzibar to form Tanzania. Real stuff.
>>12768783>Lost Civ is a sprawling integrated trek across a cohesive world>TerShib is a bunch of disparate levels with no through connectionThey’re also two gorgeous sets of large maps, frequently featuring open ended levels with ‘comfortable’ and detailed aesthetics.
>>12768894Hahaha, look at this helpless dipshit
>>12768872Id Software just can't count. They released Doom 95 two years before Doom 64.
>>12768906So no similarity of significance.
>>12768939Big maps, duh.
>>12768939Only for you.
Texture filtering linear or nearest for Q3?I'd argue that it looks better with linear just like HL
is Sin worth playing
>>12769013linear
Finished replaying Quake 1 this morning on vanilla NM. Glad I beat NM just to say so but the consensus that making the enemies turrets isn't great is definitely true imo. Lots of peekaboo shooting and Ogres are just more exploitable. Episode 4 was better than I remembered, even Spawns weren't as bad, and Episode 3 seemed more sloppy and slapdash than I remembered compared to the rest. Maybe this is the moment Sandy alleges Tim Willits deliberately misinformed American McGee? Might try with the current version of Copper this weekend since I've heard good things. Or the expansions on Hard.
>> CLASSIC DOOM CHALLENGE <<Record a UV Max demo of There Will Be Blood MAP01 (-cl 2)Reply to this post with a demo & your time.Wad download:https://battleofthebits.com/arena/Entry/There+Will+Be+Blood/15533/https://files.catbox.moe/t8g4d7.zipExample demo in 5:34:https://files.catbox.moe/t2dff0.lmpPrevious challenge winner:SoD MAP01 Max in 2:09! >>12756059>>12766220
Maybe I should have practiced this more
>doommore like dumb lmao
>>12769371I don't get it
>>12769256>Maybe this is the moment Sandy alleges Tim Willits deliberately misinformed American McGee? Can you share the screenshots and if possible the response from Romero? Although he would have been gone by that point, right?
>>12769403https://youtu.be/G_ga1TFBrBo?t=96I haven't seen any fact check but I take it with a grain of salt really just because of how unreliable Sandy has been with regard to a lot of other topics, though I'm still open to it because Willits has other bad shit laid at his feet so it's not unbelievable. I also found the dev portrait of McGee in Quake II to be in poor taste.
>>12769438Thanks, appreciate it
All the OG id software guys should regroup and form an alliance and make a new game but with the sensibilities and graphics of the old games and when they make millions of dollars they should be given the rights to their original IPs and then there would be world peace and pizza for everyone and we all get nailbox keychains that make the nailgun sound instead and /vr/ finds and kills that guy that keeps shitting up the board with gay threads and we all get kittens
>>12769378>idgiis that a doom cheat code?
Nice someone ported Duke Nukem Advance to PChttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZWS4ujFhofg
Map for Dawn
>>12768208I don't remember that one being too bad (unlike scythe 2 map31 secret exit, the ultra-tight speedrunning one, which managed to be worse than the speedrunning map in the original).
>>12768458They are, just not for the likes of you and me.
>>12769315Map theme: Black and Gamer Lights
>>12769590yeah i'm dumb meant that one
>>12769585that's a little ridiculous
>>12769585What happened to just playing map to map and getting the full experience? Who asked for this shit?
>play eviternity II>really like the weapon they added, called the perforator>unpack eviternityII.wad, give ai sloppa access to it and ask it to extract it to a standalone .pk3, keeping the sprites, audio and logic (damage, which ammo it uses, the behavior that replaces chainsaw etc)>Worked for 5m 53s>works flawlessly on first trysheeeit
>>12769013Definitely linear. Nearest only makes sense with palettized textures that are too crunchy and contrasted to look good smoothed. Also there are quite a few instances in Quake 3 maps where textures are scaled up across a large surface, which looks silly without filtering.
>>12769585Thanks, with the time travel and unlockable crap this makes it easier to understand and I forgot to save this image when it was posted last week. Amazing how quickly people figure shit out, much like getting the new episode to werk with ironwail. Still, you get haters and retards shidding on anything and everything they can for some reason, instead of just shutting the fuck up and ignoring things that don't interest them.
>>127696685 bethbux have been deposited to your account
>>12769673>stop discussing new quake content
>>12768894>PLEASE>I BEG YOU>YOU'RE A G-GENUINE DICKSUCKER
>>12769256>Glad I beat NM just to say so but the consensus that making the enemies turrets isn't great is definitely true imoI think that's mostly down to mapping and quirks of a mod. On harder custom maps, Nightmare actually feels like the game actually wants to kill you.
>>12769673I don't speak retard
>>12769668The maps are rad but the sequencing and forced replaying of certain maps is a weird idea. Could've done without it.
To the less technical anon's here would you ever make a mod for your waifu to be in game?
>>12769717My waifu is ssg so there's no need to mod her in
>>12769717No, but because I never understood the waifu thing past my teens.
Eviternity 2 map 28I've never really liked this map. I always seem to end up just running away from the fights, and doing a lot of door-camping.
>>12769717Yes, but I lack the art or technical skills needed.
Did Doom Deluxe get updated and remove the purple imp blood yet?
>>12769717Maybe.
I just completed "Doom 2 the way id did" and it is just such an awesome fucking wad. Everyone probably know this already, but it is a must play tier stuff.Interestingly there is so little of barons in the whole campaign, only 6 if we don't count map29. Out of all levels I think only map24 looks like a slot filler - even if the gimmick was executed okay, its texturing feels lacking and strange, espescially for a hell level, the rest of the levels are great.
>>12769715Same. I also did not enjoy the floating platform gay shit, that was super annoying and will not be replaying that.
>>12769715>second time through the maps adds new/harder encounters since you have more weapons and ammoI’m not opposed to this “newgame+” idea, honestly.
>>12768774the brains with energy shields? stop shooting them in the face like damn nigga you stupid lmao
>>12769875>stop shooting them in the faceno fuck you
>>12769741>I've never really liked this mapi've never really liked this kind of wad to be quite desu. they are pretty and polished but often tedious
Am I a loser if I use impulse 9 and notarget? I'm having a lot of fun and I don't do it ALL the time. Do you think it will affect my progression in the new expansion? Like will I not get the cool shotgun if I'm a cheater beater pumpkin eater?
>>12769925Progress isn't affected by turning cheats on (doesn't even lock you out of cheevos like other games) so do it to your heart's content.
>>12769925>am i a loser?for asking for permission, yes you are.
>>12769875No mother fucker the dudes who highlight green play the mission packs FAGGOT
Map 29Next map (36) is going to be quite something, it might take me a while.
>>12769673Dawn is a great expansion and you are homo gay faggot for not liking it.
>>12769570It's cool to have n64, psx and gba content playable on eduke. Also the saturn exclusive map has been converted. Now we only need Duke Nukem DS for eduke, but we can't even get the leaked rom file because it's being hoarded by some greedy gigantic faggot.
>>12769647Don't act like you've never replayed a video game you stupid faggot.
>>12769987energy shields you stupid cunt same item you have access to. use hyperblaster dumbass
>>12770026NTA, but I was wondering if you could answer a couple of questions about this expansion?
anon i dont think youre a cunt or dumbass im just poking fun anonymously and I hope you have fun playing quake 2
>>12769930I didn't ask for permission. I asked for opinions. Still gonna do it and have fun no matter what.>>12769929Thanks for the info.
>>12768775>Also Q2R is better than vanilla Quake 2 because the Berzerkers are actually a threat.Q2R is harder than vanilla but the expansions were also more difficult than the base game. It's Q2R compared to expansion changes where things get more comparable.>>12769256I think Q1's nightmare would feel less 'mixed' if the ogres weren't as prominent and/or they were more aware of the Z axis. The melee oriented enemies on nightmare definitely benefit from the difficulty increasing their hitstun cooldown.>>12770064>I didn't ask for permission. I asked for opinions. Still gonna do it and have fun no matter what.You're free to do what's fun, but I find the most fun in being provided difficult content and eventually learning to surpass it.
>>12770134It really is weird that ogres can't aim vertically when Carmack was fixated on showing off how 3D the engine was. Surely the aim calculations for an arcing projectile wouldn't have caused performance issues?
>>12770134>>12770140Later mods would mess with this liberally. Drake defaults all ogres to be z-aware. Arcane Dimensions has variants that are z-aware, but the default ogre is not. Violent Rumble 2 uses the Ogre Marksman as its z-aware variant. I don't remember if Keep / Mjolnir functions like Drake's but I would assume so. Checked the latest Copper just now, not z-aware there and that's a shame but oh well.I have not played Tomb of Thunder, but there's an anon around here who has. I'd be curious to know what that does.
>>12770160>Violent Rumble 2 uses the Ogre Marksman as its z-aware variantThat was a progs_dump leftover I believe.
The kex engine nightdive ports aren't bad
>>12770160>Checked the latest Copper just now, not z-aware there and that's a shame but oh well.They are IIRC, but the angles are constrained within 20° or so>I have not played Tomb of Thunder, but there's an anon around here who has. I'd be curious to know what that does.I haven't played it in about 2 years, but I'm pretty sure there is, and there's also a nail variant that aims vertically
>>12770160>Checked the latest Copper just now, not z-aware there and that's a shame but oh well.They seem "semi z-aware" as the site confirms, could be affected more by difficulty, seems affected by distance.Tomb of Thunder ogres seem to follow old Copper behavior and are seemingly slightly "z-aware" as well.
>>12770048Go ahead.
>>12770194no source code, no play. it's just that simple.
>start playing mjolnir>complete episode 3>it's an amazing experience>new weapons were so fun to use and maps were quite cool too>start episode 4>after getting outside from the first runic room, the map starts to feel really amazing with it's huge castle>complete about 1/3 of the huge map>get save error>old save disappears>cant save anymore either>the map glitches and new doors wont open anymore>noclip>die>lose all progress>night's ruinedFuck. Still amazing mod though. Gonna continue some day.
>>12770219>extract the 2 new expansions, quake 64 and the updated terra with extra maps>play them on ironwailProblem solved.
>>12770226There's a bespoke Ironwail copy that should have come with your download of it, although the latest Ironwail werks on my machine.If you liked episode 3, and to be honest I found it really lackluster, the author, Shadesmaster, did a whole episode on his own just like it with his own mod, Sacrilege.https://www.slipseer.com/index.php?resources/sacrilege-full-release.125/It's very very similar to Mjolnir's episode 3, but I like it more. Dude's got a keen eye for combat that wasn't all there in his Njolnir contributions. I must admit, however, I have not completed it yet. >>12770194They're not bad but I cannot stand the input lag and how it feels like I'm slip sliding around. This is only as far as Q1. Q2R I'm fine with. I wouldn't mind if someday Ironwail brought shadows over but I'm not dying over it.
>When you are on the 2nd floor of the hangar, go into the next room and you'll find the red keycard will be on top of green boxes and the blue rune key on the floor.>the blue rune key is just straight up not therebeen running up and down this godforsaken hangar for an hour now. i'm a plancks's length away from just noclipping through the exit door.
>>12770231>I wouldn't mind if someday Ironwail brought shadows over but I'm not dying over it.vkQuake has dynamic light support now, and it uses the level's lightmaps instead of a separate shadow map so it looks like it fits in Quake a lot better. Needs gaytracing for some reason though.
Is the best way to play blood still nblood?
>>12770204So, I've gone through all of the maps and collected the first trune. Apparently, there's 3 more trunes, so I continued playing, but it seems that I keep returning to the first map. What am I doing wrong here?
I don't think this is the intended method, but it works all the same.
>>12770239Refreshed Supply is pretty good.
new Dean of Doom - Abscission - I'm gonna miss this when it's over even if it turns into a cacoward review at times
>>12770239That or NotBlood which is basically nblood+If you want the original DOS version but fixed and then some, there's DOSBlood.
>>12770240You go the hub after getting your first rune. Now there are 4 portals. You took the portal to the first map from there. Search the rune door from that map.
>>12770254Oh,shit. I think you're probably right...Is there any specific order I need to select the remaining trunes?
>>12770240>truneAppropriate typo
>>12770262>trunesWait, maybe it wasn't a typo..?
>>12770279The slipseer mods must be getting to me.
>>12770239I was playing around with build ports recently cause I wanted to see if any had automap options for seeing where secrets are on a map. NotBlood was the best - which is essentially NBlood+. But I found Raze (just turn off chicken man's filters)/Build GDX/NBlood fine too. I might have to use Raze again at some point just to play Alien World Order for Duke & once you got away from forced compatibility with every mod in existence Raze actually ran pretty well despite being GZDoom derived.I hate secret hunting and generally enjoy every map more when I can just know where every secret is - it's my main reason for not liking the Kex ports since they are missing any option to just easily see where secrets are like modern source ports for every other game. Otherwise the Kex ports are playable although I don't like not having free look enabled in a modern source port for Doom 1+2. Blood's old port was fine refuse to pay for the new one though, Strife I still use desu despite it's age, Heretic + Hexen I actually liked being able to swap characters on the fly although I do think it does break the game a bit later but with the amount of BS the game spams I don't really mind just switching to a class where the map is actually fun - I did like the new music in Heretic from what I've heard of it - level design got changed which I could just switch to the original maps so I was like eh and enjoyed the prettier look to Heretic - which I already thought was a pretty game. I still have to go through Quake 2 but Quake 1 has been fun even if I prefer ironwail/quakespasm etc.
>>12770283>Wait, maybe it wasn't a typo..?It clearly wasn't.>>12768315
>>12770246Hoping to get more money?
>>12770247>Dean Of Doomugh, i find his name so pretentious. Giving grades to wads and pretending he's a dean what a douche. Cannot watch
I actually love how ogres are NOT using z-axis to aim. Not only it fits their name, but it also results in many more grenade bounces when in tight spaces. And that's the place where they shine the most anyway.
>>12770240When you were playing for the first time, there were multiple closed doors with a huge "NEEDS RUNE" on them on each map. How did you got the first rune and this wasn't your very very first idea? Have you never played metroidvania in your life?
>>12769741This wad is shit and boring, so generic
>>12770286>I might have to use Raze again at some point just to play Alien World Order for Dukeyou can run it in eduke with stopgap
>>12770339Apparently, I forgot about the other doors. I usually do all of my gaming before bedtime, so I'm not surprised I missed that detail. And, no, I despise nintendo, so metroid is out of the question.
>>12769305Max in 4:19. The exit and the bfg secret are both really obscure, I'd recommend watching the demo first to anyone else recording a demo. >battleofthebits.comAlso, what is this?
>>12770356Link:https://files.catbox.moe/tq8818.lmp
>>12767490If we're talking about Project-Malice enemies, let me say that I just fucking LOVE the Death's Emissary. >Baron replacement.>Is basically just a tall cloaked dude with dual chainguns plus a cannon on his chest.>Can turn invisible and rev his chainguns before uncloaking, choreographing his attack; you can even hit him while invisible if he's in a tight space.>Can partially phase out his legs to fire his guns and charge you at the same time.>Pauses his death animation to stare at you before going down.Aside from The Broken, fighting this guy always feels like a duel. 10/10 enemy.
>>12770347Nintendo does suck but you're missing out on the satisfaction of pirating their games and depriving them of money. It's your moral duty to play their games for free as a lesson to them. Please rethink your choices and I will pray for you, anon.
>>12770356I'm not familiar with the site, some demoscene community apparently. I played Xaser's and zanzan's maps from this competition earlier so I decided to check out other entries.btw did you lowercase the wad filename yourself or did your port write it in lowercase in demo footer?
>>12770392>did you lowercase the wad filename yourself or did your port write it in lowercase in demo footer?I didn't change the filename myself, I guess nugget doom just does that. Does it create problems with linux or something?
>>12770241Congraturation a speedrunner is you
>>12770396yeah, dsda doesn't autodetect the wad so i have to load it manuallyi encounter that quite frequently with dsda demos, so i guess the autodetection should just be case-insensitive
>>12770405https://zdoom.org/w/index.php?title=UZDoom_version_history/5.x#5.0>Multiple security fixes. This update is being deemed as critical. If you’re using a version older than 5.0, it’s highly recommended you update to the latest.Does anyone know what those "critical vulnerabilities" are?
>>12770405>>12770414Didn't mean to quote
my newest creation
>>12770414>Does anyone know what those "critical vulnerabilities" are?another zscript sheanigans, nothing new.
>>12770414Same "vulnerabilities" that were discovered in all Intel CPUs few year later so you had to (((update))) asap.
>>12770228then i'm not using the kex engine night dive port. so really, night dive is just adding several gigabytes, DRM, and useless functionality that i will delete. an awful set of ports, and an awful company to be sure. they don't even let you play quake or doom 2 online without an account, these ports are practically malware.
>>12768247Was just a slopejump. I always forget about them because they never get utilized in any maps.
>>12770194They are okay when you don't pay for them and there's no alternative.
>>12770414Big bunner ears, would pet.
>>12766220I have been playing Brutal Doom recently. I have a lot of anger at the minute and it is a good way to let it out. I love using the berserk pack, and performing fatalitirs on the enemies. I grab the imps, throw them to the ground, I laugh as I stamp on its head. I grab the shotgun guys, rip off their heads. Brutal Doom is how all games should be, they should not be woke games that censor left and right, we need games for men who are proud to be strong.
>>12770596yeah, enjoy the hurdling the fast-paced gameplay.
>the whole area behind the golden key door on Nightmare Machine gets locked forever and you can't return to it, say goodbye to those secretsReally weird when every other map allows backtracking everything.
>>12770581There’s only really “no alternative” if you’re on console since there’s tons of different port options on PC, and I’m not sure if anyone on console received the Kex port uogrades like Steam and GOG users did.
>>12770596For me? It's Project Brutality.
>>12770643There are no good alternatives for games like Turok 3 and Killing Time (for now)
>>12770596Weren't you making a Quake map or something?
>>12770689Why the hell did Killing Time get a port anyway? Is it just because of Ross's Game Dungeon?
somebody please post the spoiler gif with chaingunners, either the closet or the mountain is fine
>>12770697It's a remaster of the Windows version, which is different from 3DO version.But considering that they also did a port of PO'ed, NDS just probably found the rights holder as well as development materials.I'd imagine that the dev team were really into that particular project considering that the Windows version of Killing Time was on the Jaguar Doom engine (thanks to Burger Bill).
This is a question for those who play the retro FPSes that don't display stats like secrets or kills, what are your feelings on maps implementing points of no return? What about when you can see it coming vs suddenly losing the ability to go back?
>>12770727Got you covered.
>>12770773thanks boo
>>12770776Got this one too.
>>12770759It depends entirely on how frustrating "shit, I wish I could go back and pick up that stuff I now can't" situation gets.
i'm strictly a continuous just beat the game player
>>12770759Telegraphed is much better than non-telegraphed.
>>12766982sexy battleship
>>12770759Depends how important the secrets are. The better I get at these games, the more compelling it is for the game to withhold certain resources or powerful weapons.Basically, points of no return suck more when the secrets are more impactful, but I kind of want the secrets to generally not have a plasmagun, BFG, megahealth, etc.
Dimension of the Past wasn't the ammo drought cbt session I remembered it as, even on nightmare. I did actually bother secret hunting though, so maybe that makes a big difference.
>>12770834Yeah, I never got this communities obsession with no save pistol starting to be honest. I just play Doom to have fun, and there's a sea of people playing it on the no fun allowed self-imposed challenge runs on youtube so you don't even stand out.
>>12770642I would argue noclip is justified in this circumstance. I haven't got there yet though
>>12770935> I just play Doom to have funSame. If I'm getting pissed at the game, why am I even playing it?
>>12770503Cool
>>12770998While all of that sounds terrible I don't see how it's specifically by/for trannies. Do you call everything you don't like trooncoded?
>>12771031>Do you call everything you don't like trooncoded?Most people here do that. Yes.
>>12771034Well, can we not? Turning it into a generic insult lets trannies off the hook.
>>12771034No they don't.
>>12771043Most. Not all.
>>12770697It was probably a motivator, and he does make a good case for it, but Killing Time has had a cult following for a long time. I recall an anecdote from 25+ years ago where someone found the big box copy in a clearance bin, thought the cover looked goofy and bought it as a joke gift to a friend, expecting bad game schlock kino, but then when they try it they both realize that, actually the game is kinda good.>>12770759They are what they are, you aren't entitled to find all secrets, that's why they're secrets.
>>12770998I play a personally tricked out version from 2017. I've posted it here quite a few times but just now I'm too lazy to grab the link. It's right before they started going all smooth animation. I love it. That said, stop thinking about trannies you faggot.
>>12770998Stop being a niggur.
>>12770696He was too preoccupied with homosexual thoughts.
>>12770246No it isn't.
>>12770998I occasionally feel like being open to it and then I see 10 seconds of gameplay from any Brutal Doom stuff and it's just the gayest shit I've ever seen. ADS was a mistake. I can't fathom why a person would want to put that in a game that didn't have it.
>>12771187Doom has no long-range fighting, all the weapons are short-range, you can't imagine why some mod author might want to experiment with that ?
>>12771205The chaingun disagrees
>>12770998you're calling a mod associated with one by an edgy brazillian "trooncoded"
>>12771292/vr/ is a sister board to /v/ so people feel comfortable spewing their /v/eddit lingo
tis a shame the original models used to make the doom 64 sprites are likely long gone it be nice to be able to mod them into doom 64
Newest TrenchBroom version is out with the new sweep tool.https://github.com/TrenchBroom/TrenchBroom/releases/tag/v2026.2
>>12771424What happened with the trenchbroom 'fork' with blackjack and hookers after the dev was seen cavorting with the AI demon? Seems like that nontroversy just vanished in a puff of smoke.
>>12771426Presumably dead because the manufactured outrage from slopseer failed. Last commit was somewhere in July.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VqWT8h-crjQSo what do you guys think about interpretations of Doom maps?
>species status: aborted
is the leaked version worth playing? I know it's been getting community patched
>>12771452I didn't like The Birth. Duke's one of those games that's really fun but the official content outside of the original campaign sucks dick.
>>12770134>I think Q1's nightmare would feel less 'mixed' if the ogres weren't as prominent and/or they were more aware of the Z axis. The melee oriented enemies on nightmare definitely benefit from the difficulty increasing their hitstun cooldown.That might also be why I enjoyed E4 more this time. Way more Fiends than Ogres.
>>12771205Actual long range combat sux and I never want it. Leave that for mil sims. And it's not as much that I can't get why a person would want to make that, but more so why so many people want to play that.
>>12771456I like The Birth. Also Duke Caribbean is ludo.
>>12771456I thought it was better than Lunar Apocalypse. Not sure how I'd rate it between LA Meltdown, Shrapnel City, and The Birth - but I thought those 3 episodes were all solid playing everything back to back - Lunar had issues but it was made in a month and a half from what I read and I thought a bunch of levels were still pretty cool despite that since I love space levels. I don't have the steam edition and I didn't see Alien World Order in the mega links in OP so I can't compare that yet.
>>12770935*MUFFLED BAGPIPES START PLAYING**THUMP**THUMP**THUMP**CRASH**BAGPIPES GET LOUDER*OOOOOOOOOOOOOOCH LADDIE IF'N YE PUT SUGAR IN YER PORRIDGE YE DIDNAE EAT THA PORRIDGE LADDIE OCH LADDIE YER NAE TRUE SCOTSMAN LADDIE OCH NAE TRUE SCOTSMAN LADDIE OCH NAE TRUE SCOTSMAN YER NAE TRUE SCOTSMAN LADDIE
>>12771187>ADS was a mistake. I can't fathom why a person would want to put that in a game that didn't have it.If the ‘hipfire’ is miserable without it then I’m annoyed. It depends on how its balanced.>>12771217The max distance of vanilla’s autoaim always felt more like a “midrange” at best, though I can see it feeling like “longrange” to others. The rare instance where you can lineup chaingun tapping from across the map certainly feels “longrange”, though.
>>12771486Distance is all relative. How often are you playing Doom maps and fighting enemies that exist outside of your autoaim range?
>>12771486>If the ‘hipfire’ is miserable without it then I’m annoyed.Then navigate the level to the close-mid range. Enemies at a distance are there to oppress you, not so you'll enter a sniping duel like it's MGS.
>>12770935It is a thrill and when you challenge yourself and beat the challenge after failing many times you're on the top of the world. Some people live for that thrill and feel that it's ruined when there are no stakes. I don't play Doom that way but it's similar to what I like that's beating NES games without savestates
>>12771486Plus, if you play the game at the resolution at which it was designed there is no long-range or even mid-range combat because everything more than a few hundred units away shrinks to a couple of pixels and merges with the background.
Eraser is still top priority, but I have the Halo/Marathon-inspired mod to work on still.Personally, I think it's easier to make a map than work with code and sprites. I haven't even tackled the HUD yet in spite of having all the elements done to some degree, though I think they need to be redesigned slightly anyway.I also felt like being silly and giving the rifle a 60 round mag, higher rate of fire and 6 grenades. There is an MA5B hole in my soul.The shotgun is also more done than not, but I haven't felt like working on this again. Maybe I'll show it later.
>>12771546Lately, I've found ti way more fun to make something functional over making map designs.
We need TITLEPIC and INTERPIC for 666 minutes!
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>>12769013GL_NEAREST for the mostest crunchiest Q3 experience.
>>12771714Pic related. Hmm yes perfect.
>>12771546>I also felt like being silly and giving the rifle a 60 round mag, higher rate of fire and 6 grenades.Should be 7 grenades or it's not historically accurate.>Personally, I think it's easier to make a mapMapping is fun, drawing is best, coding is a necessary evil. Though doing enemy animations is still hell for having to do all the different angles. Weapon animations are great, but a project only needs so many of them.
>>12771659I dare you to make something out of a screenshot of the Lemmings level "All the 6's" (Tricky 21).Nobody will see it coming!
>>12771495>How often are you playing Doom maps and fighting enemies that exist outside of your autoaim range?Extremely rarely, thankfully, and even when they are hanging outside the autoaim range they’re not doing much against the player.>>12771507Unless the mod also changes how aggressive and effective they are at a distance, but I only know of a few, and even less that have “awful hipfire” compared to aiming down the sight.
>>12771527I get it. But it does remind me of those zoomers with their gay achievement website. But not as gay.
>>12771570How so?>>12771741>the numberGood point. I might as well, it's just a few lines of code to change.>drawingI am yet to draw something I consider to be usable for Doom's style, but I keep having thoughts of grabbing Blender or Blockbench and fucking around with them for something unrelated to modding. Maybe I'm better with 3D and I just don't know it yet.>codingIt really is a necessary evil. I'm surprised I was able to bumble my way into making the pistol's two reloads in under two hours.>mappingThe easiest part because I just start laying down lines upon lines. It's not easy the whole way, but it's not bad either, and I can confidently produce a worthwhile section of a map in under a day.
>>12768161I'm on map 18 blind and I'm having a blast, dunno why people dislike it so much
>Dissolution of Eternity>One map is just>EARTHQUAKES. EARTHQUAKES EVERYWHERE.Why.
is there a way to synchronise scrolling blinking lights sectors in mbf? They seem to be random or all blink simultaneously
>>12772052It's an _earth_ element map in _Quake_. Of course there should be earthquakes.
This is not going well
>>12772052Get it? The game is called Quake, and there's earthQuakes. You should appreciate the genius behind having your controls raped for 15 seconds around spawns and instakill crushers
>>12772052It was pretty fucking annoying at first, but I basically got used to it.
>>12771891>usable for the styleJust make everything in your style! It won't be a hell of your own making!>The easiest part because I just start laying down lines upon lines. It's not easy the whole way, but it's not bad eitherMarathon mapping is a bit harder in this way because the space requirements are so tight you have to have shit overlap if you want bigger maps/more places for the player to run around in, but keeping track of everything in the editor when it overlaps can get tricky. It's still fun but figuring out how to organize the spaghetti has come first before the more enjoyable parts can be focused on.
>>12772101Time and again the idea for some TC entirely made by myself with whatever I can scrounge together and no outside influence does cross my mind.It's been happening more often lately because of Alizarin, a community project I made a map for last year. To make it short, it had a fucked palette that made everything stark white, stark red and stark black. Move far away from something and it straight up vanishes into the black. It helps the premise was "make some weird creative shit" but beware, your eyes might implode if you stare at it too long.It reminded me of this short 2d shooter called All My Friends Are Dead and had me thinking I could definitely make something like that if I wanted to, I already do some scrawls when I want to do *something* but can't figure out why. Picrel's there for reference.>Marathon mappingI've been curious ever since I saw Marathon RED back in 2012, but I never felt like taking the plunge. I think just knowing Marathon exists is enough to send you into some pathways into darkness, period, let alone actually making things with it.In a very strange way, I can say my life is divided by Marathon. There's a before and after, and the after has gone some very strange places.Will say that screencap doesn't strike me as particularly nasty, but like I said, Marathon is a very strange thing. I'm sure I'll eat my words the moment I lay eyes upon the editor's GUI.
>beat the faggot demon on bloody nightmare just to get the bloody shotgun thinking it will be some cool model like the axe>picrel>also took all my upgrades AND all runesFuck you MG. Fucking lazy homosexuals.
>>12772145>All My Friends Are DeadDamn, loved that, haven't heard about it in years.
>>12772178Well that is disappointing and lame. Thanks for the report.
>>12772178>remodel Armagon laser gun for no reason>whole new axe model>upgraded shotgun is just splattered in some MS Paint bloodI wonder what the thought process was.
>>12770231>They're not bad but I cannot stand the input lagI've heard people mentioning this before, but I've never experienced it. Is it possible they fixed it in later updates?
>>12772178You only get it after beating bloody nightmare?
>>12771449>patreon warningand hidden
>>12772206After beating the Chthon on bloody. So you get Sacrifice, then run through all the other runes, then re-run the mission to get the knight head, and beat last 2 missions, Nightmare Machine and Chthon on bloody. To get a shitty paint shotgun.
Horey shit I did itEviternity 2 map 36Props to whoever added the elevator to the soulsphere in the pool party area (after everything has lowered). Otherwise I'd have had to abandon my 100% items goal.Good map, horrible to single-segment, never again
>>12772251Chthon was miserable enough the first time.
>>12772179I kinda wanna boot it up again. It's a good half hour of weird artsy bullshit and sometimes that's good for the soul.
>>12771449Honestly don't enjoy his content at all, his personality and voice is grating, and he doesn't have anything interesting to say.
>>12771449Other than decino there's no doom content worth watching.
>Other than anon's wad reviews there's no doom content worth watching.Fixed that for you, you faggots
>>12772394which one
>>12772326i like how he's moving away from his usual no saving autism
>>12772059>file deletedIf only I could delete it from my memory. You can just make a looping voodoo doll script to blink the lights however you want. Randomness is hardcoded in many lighting effects.
>>12772178holy shit lmao im gonna steal their idea and make it better like that looks like shit that doesnt even look like quake blood.
>>12772523I was thinking of doing something similar with a gradually brighter red tip so it becomes brightmapped.
>>12772535do it up man would be cool to see how you pull it off I made this reskin of the axe when I was working on the mace I posted earlier
>>12772550What are you using to mod the mdls and textures? I've only been using qme.
>>12772556https://q1tools.github.io/mdl/you can import skins and save them as new models. Use it to shift colors, nudge the textures around, and a bunch of other useful shit. I have used this a lot although I still havent figured out if you can move around verts or add them or isolate objects so I mostly use it for texture stuff.
>>12772145>I've been curious ever since I saw Marathon RED back in 2012, but I never felt like taking the plunge.The basics are pretty straightforward to grasp with the most annoying part being probably terminals and setting up visual mode when you're starting out but that's just figuring it out over an afternoon or whatever. It's really only bad if you're an ambitious dumbass who can't stay in the lines of the engine. Everything works pretty well if you're making a fairly normal map. Would strongly recommend giving it a shake if you're already mapping for Doom.>Will say that screencap doesn't strike me as particularly nastyIt's not the worst example but that's also just the thing that shows polygons elevations. You can have polygons overlap, even be the same floor/ceiling height. The issue is that the editor only has sliders to exclude anything over/under a certain height so if you have overlap, it can get very fucking annoying to place objects/fix things. Currently working on a map that's going to involve the player going up and down and the areas do overlap and use fake vistas and the like and it's rapidly spiraling into a confusing mess to actually work on areas.>Marathon is a very strange thing.It is a strange and baffling creature. Just as some examples:-The aforementioned overlapping thing is just kinda silly in how you can do it and the game has 0 issue with it because it doesn't consider unconnected polygon's relation to each other.-If a polygon has 7 or more vertices, it is prone to glitching out.-Likewise, if a point has 7+ lines running out of it, it will also glitch.
>>12772610anon no one here bothered to make a duke map for the /vr/ project and you want them to try fuckin marathon
>>12772394Oh you're back. Watched your vids years ago - any megawads you got planned?
>>12772282What map?
>>12772610>Would strongly recommend giving it a shakeGood points all around here. I'd definitely be making a regular map, at most I'd take some notes from Apotheosis X' level design because it really is the best I've seen in the scenarios.>map going up and down leading to madnessWell, now there's something I experienced in my few attempts to capture the feeling of stacked rooms in Doom.GZ and Eternity let you do this relatively easily by using portals, which link sectors either via lines (horizontal plane) or sectors to sectors (vertical plane). I think. It's been a very long time since I tried anything of the sort.But for other formats like Boom and MBF21, you're much more reliant on silent teleporters taking you to differently structured areas that give the illusion of ascending/descending a vertical space.>the numberJesus. I knew the obsession went deep, but not to *that* depth. Now I know why Marathon maps often are very blocky and use large shapes, not that I mind.>>12772631This is different.I think about Marathon regularly.I haven't thought about Duke until I saw a Russian cosplaying him and playing DN3D.
>>12772567Kick ass, I'll be messing around with this over the weekend.
>>12772670>This is different.In the sense that even less people here think about and talk about Marathon. Though, its level editing software might have a lot less friction than Mapster32, so perhaps it might go smoother on that point.
>>12772729In the sense this is a conversation between two Marathon nerds who have been around the block, you mean. At no point did either of us imply anyone else should start mapping for Marathon.Others are welcome to join in, of course, but this really is me expressing some passing interest in Marathon mapping and someone else giving some tips and advice.
>>12772729>its level editing software might have a lot less friction than Mapster32My understanding is that the best way to mod Marathon is still to install Sheepshaver and fire up the original Forge, because the modern OS tools either aren't very good or only handle a third of the workflow.
>>12772743Probably, I'm half awake currently and was barely paying attention. Good night!
The re-release models are actually rigged which is kind of neat. I'm trying to get VR IK working so people can see where you are pointing and looking in multiplayer.
>>12772780That's nuts. Do you post updates on this stuff somewhere?
>>12772785HereGithub https://github.com/ObeseCatLord/Quakespasm-VRI guess I could post it on Slipseer or something, but I don't think they like AI coding if they are like Doomworld.
>>12772792No they definitely don't. They even had a meltdown over Trenchbroom having a teeny tiny bit of AI code in it.
>>12772752Nah, Weland and Shapefusion are good nowadays. You only need to fire up mac emulation shit if you want specifically to mod Marathon 1 as they use a different file format and there's never been a serious effort to port editing tools for those file types. Everything else works just fine or better on the modern tools.>Third of the workflowIf you're making a map with stock everything and no terminals, you only need Weland. Shapefusion's for damn near everything that isn't the map and Atque is used to wrap everything up into one .sceA file.
>>12772840>and no terminalsMarathon with no terminals?
>>12772885Maybe someone wants to make a netmap.
I'm going to replay Quake on that newish official port before doing all the 21st century expansions for the first time, are there any settings I need to turn off? I heard about the Heretic+Hexen port changing the balance and levels by default, that's the kind of thing I'm asking about.
>>12771659Try thist.guywithteacup
>>12772938why don't you just play it and figure it out you dunce
>>12772251wtf were they thinking with this structure?
>>12773019Because I'm too used to ports and remasters fucking me up the ass to not be cautious
>>12772780What fortnite dance is this?
>>12773023>we want to do something new with Quake and add a lot of replayabilityThat simple. It's not like they're giving you half-assed content you need to play through before you get to the real game,
>>12772191If I had to guess, it was a last minute edition to release it in time for quakecon>>12772523Please do, the model looks laughably ridiculous, a child could have done a better job. I know I'm being a little rough but I did enjoy the expansion overall.
>>12773006source?
Eviternity 2 the endWhile I enjoyed this, it really works better as a casual playthrough with saves, instead of trying to single-segment the maps. A lot of the maps start with 10-15 minutes of low-stakes base-sweeping, which isn't very interesting to do over and over again if you die later on. Fortunately I didn't die that much, in fact I got a lot of maps first try (after a practice playthrough with saves).Funnily enough the one map which made me not want to single-segment this (33) turned out to be one of the more fun ones to single-segment.
>>12773085GG!favourite map?
>>12772394please do a review on fore/vr/ alone
>>12773054Russia
>>12773006If we start using ai crap for graphics we might as well do the maps with oblige.
>>12770935Some cherish the challenge.
>>12773210Is that really AI?
>>12773196Before doing these runs I'd probably have said 32 or 14 or 24. And I still think these are really good maps. But I think the map I actually enjoyed most was 16, since you can just kind of just run around and improvise in all the chaos, for pretty much the entire map.
>>12772638>>12773198I don't reckon he's so conceited to self-promote like this, and I'm definitely not him in person. My apologies to anon wad reviewer, never meant myself as a foul-mouthed representative.>please do a review on fore/vr/ aloneI'll be fine with whatever wad he'd stumble across personally, although he did express a wish reviewing it some far-off years ago.>>12773221Looks like it, but I don't imagine that even the Doomworld, being AI-adverse as it is, would focus their attention to pixel and color-crushed pics hidden inside the WAD files. I know that I've seen some assets that could pass as AI published on there, and even used for release threads in the open.
>>12773221Different anon, look at the minute markers on the edge of the clock, they're inconsistent in a way a stock image wouldn't be.I think this is one of the most harmless uses of AI asset generation but it's very easily noticeable, I wouldn't use this.
>>12773221second markings are uneven and finger looks wormy
>>12772758Good morning, anon. I hope you had a good night's sleep.>>12773302>DW wouldn't focus on color-crushed picsThey will. They're rather obsessed about it, to the point of arguing back and forth if something is AI-generated for pages on end and discrediting anything as soon as they find out. Will agree it's harmless in the end.I'm not involved with this project, but I will say that's a solid idea for a titlepic! If any anons have a pocketwatch and want to grant us mere mortals a peek at it, we could kill two birds with one stone and flex on those godless heathens on top.
>>12772178Wait a fucking minute, I just realized I wouldn't be able to get the new axe till the very end AGAIN because they took all my runes. Holy shit.
>>12773006If anyone still wants to use this, I prepared it for import into Slade. Also fixed the wormy finger somewhat, didn't touch the notches. May need some extra retouch/cleanup.
>>12773405Here's the straight palette conversion. I'm all in for a real photo of a watch though, supplied by a good background.
Maybe we can ask /wsr/ fags?
>>12773416Did some retouch.Yeah, base is ai slop, but there was more to it than just me typing prompt and picking the best version. I retouched most of it by hand, because original was just some dude hand with a pocket watch.P.S. Jesus fucking Christ they keep railing me with all this captchas.t.guywithteacup
>>12773559i won't accept any ai sorry
>>12773381It was a half-decent night's sleep, but I've got no direct responsibilities for a few days, so I'll catch some better Zs tonight.
>>12773559You're a good mapper, and I have yet to play a level of yours that I didn't enjoy (and I really mean that), but I can't say that these AI graphics are worth yours or our time.
>>12773430I could maybe look at transforming some kind of stock photo or something.
>>12773449Have the Slough of Despair hold that clock.
>>12773559I can do a drawing based on this image if you like, so those tranny fags can stop whining about it.
>>12773671>trannies trannies tranniesBut enough about what you are.
>abyssal apocrypha's lost soul replacement is a wojakCertainly a choice
>>12773680post it
>>12773702Enjoy the attack frame
>>12773717Why is it soipogging at me?
>>12773739I like this oneWhat midi would fit it?
>>12773739
>>12773809The 666 clashes too much with the text.
I really like Dissolution of Eternity more than Scourge of Armagon.>The "super" ammo for all the guns>The more fantastical and dungeon crawl-ish elements to the expansion>Cooler new enemies than Armagon's Mr. Steals your guns and annoying flying bombsI'm having a good time.
>>12773809Now it's time to edit all maps to have 666 items in them.
>>12773820>6 kills>6 items>6 secrets
>>127738266 minutes to make a map6 sectors6 weapons
>>12773809>>12773813Probably due to the text size being too bigHere's the GIMP file with the layers to dick with if you wanthttps://litter.catbox.moe/cswcorzonrn66rep.xcf
>>12773403You get to keep the axe, you stupid faggot.
>>12773673at least can you make it less obvious that you're some stupid tranny faggot who got offended by my post?
>>12773836That would be useful info if I wanted to suffer through the bloody nightmare bastard Chthon and acid combat platforming encounters on Nightmare Machine again, and I really really don't.
>>12773832mb smth like this?
>>12773671No... let'em seethe. I have a hard time imagining somebody being so overly pissed to deconstruct a 320x200 low palette image just to prove its ai. Especially ai used in a niche imageboard subforum speedmaping project with like, a dozen contributors?99% chance that nobody's gonna touch the final release except for few people it will rot in the corner like 512 linedefs of /vr/ did, or Fore/vr/ alone, or Sub Mortem, etc.
>>12773815YES based. Scourge gets all the glory because ??? Dissolution is a good time.
>>12773006>>12773405>>12773559>>12773671this is sad
>>12773559I don't like how the hand looks but I love the idea of an imp holding it. Make it better.And who gives a fuck if it's AI and touched up do any of you bitch and moan when a product comes from outside your country? Are you shopping locally as much as possible? No? Pick more noble battles than wading into the ocean and saying you're swinging your fists.
>>12773865no one wants it, samefag
>>12773851Do we have any wizard who can change all the black numbers on the stopclock to 6, but keep their colour, size, and shitty resolution?
>>12773559>AI artLiterally would have taken less effort to take a picture of your real hand. Apply yourself!
>>12773846Can you make it less obvious that you're a /v/eddit tourist?
>>12773873>
>>12773878>/v/edditlol I take it, much better than being a troonworld tourist
>>12773046this is just a mockup to see how well it translated in game
>>12772178>>12773892Looks like my dick during rag week.
>>12773739>>12773851Is this shit supposed to be a titlepic or an intermission screen?
GOOD MORNING MOTHERFUCKERS, IT'S THAT TIME OF THE WEEK AGAIN: SCREENSHOT SATURDAY!! WHAT THE FUCK HAVE YOU BEEN WORKING ON? Maps, mods, sprites? Now's a good time to post that shit!
>>12773892Much better. Just needs a small splat on top.
>>12773848You don't go into nightmare machine or fight cthon again in full bloody nightmare run, you stupid faggot. The final map and boss is completely different one.
>>12773885No it's not. /v/ has nudoom fags that don't even play old shooters much less map for them. It's not far from r/doom really. Dw makes maps and is not even having any retarded forum war vr. (They had with db, but db died because 40iq was retarded and gay.)
>>12773916oh yeah for sure I just wanted to see how it translated before I started making it nice I think I will go more splatter on the sides as opposed to that wading through blood look too.
>>12773856>I have a hard time imagining somebody being so overly pissed to deconstruct a 320x200 low palette image just to prove its ai. You don't have prove it's ai when it just looks like shit.>Especially ai used in a niche imageboard subforum speedmaping project with like, a dozen contributors? 99% chance that nobody's gonna touch the final release except for few people it will rot in the corner like 512 linedefs of /vr/ did, or Fore/vr/ alone, or Sub Mortem, etc.Typical ai faggot. Doesn't even play or respect our projects.
>>12773873>>12773960mental illness
>>12773960Go play oblige maps, robosexual.
>>12773956>Typical ai faggot. Doesn't even play or respect our projects."It doesn't matter if someone half asses this because no one will care about the project anyway" is such a deranged argument to make about a project that people have been asked to contribute to freely. Might as well just tell people you don't care or appreciate that they've contributed.
>>12773717
Is there a wad with an art style kind of like Salvador dali
>>12773717Think there's any relation?
>>12773851That's not bad. Only thought I have is having an orange background for orange numbers, maybe make the backdrop more red instead for better contrast?>>12773869I could maybe give it a look tomorrow if nobody else does. Right now I must sleep.>>12773960I hope you get raped by a wild pack of Pain Elementals. The Doom 64 kind.
>>12773717He looks like he has a horrible hernia and is just non-stop howling in pain over it. I like that.
>>12773970>oblige>not obsidian
>>12772394lel I wondered why I randomly got another sub>>12773198I will...eventually. I don't know much about waifus, though.
so this is how you get people to move their ass and actually put in work for once: propose an ai asset
It's fine to have dark spooky levels, but goddamn remember that this game and engine don't have flashlights. Sometimes can't see shit even if I turn up the gamma and the other stuff, even at the risk of making everything look crappy
>>12774309Later, without the gamma touched.
>>12773885You must lurk for 10 years before posting.
>>12774309>>12774341I just setup a keybind giving me free nightvision for maps like this if the sourceport doesn't have an easy way to fix this that also still looks good. Don't got patience for this light economy crap when I know flashlights are everywhere and last years before needing a change of battery.
This thing is massive. It's tanking my FPS like crazy.
>>12774497Would be easier and performance-wise better if the author didn't built the entire ship inside. On a proper 3D engine this could be easier, but could've used teleporters and other simpler stuff instead.
>>12773914Working on something Stroggy.
>>12773970Speaking of, did anyone actually try to integrate AI models into WAD generators yet? Even SLIGE got notoriety and witch hunts for its time, and randomized sloppa is more or less right up its alley for the intended design goals of it and its successors.
>>12774449I wonder where this artist is now, his Tumblr is dead.
NOBODY PLAUED MY WAD ON YOUTUBE
>>12774558>TumblrI'd wager to guess he's posting his art somewhere else.
>hm, learning doom mapping is pretty interesting. I'm starting to run into a few walls though, I wonder how you can achieve thi-...What the FUCK is a DeHACKEd?!?
Just cleared map 5 Hangar in TNT EvilutionWhy is this hated again? It’s fucking great so far and the music is awesome
>>12774504it's not inside of the ship that causes the lag, Build can handle big environments. It's the layers of TROR that are heavy on the engine, they used outside to make the ship and the cave look more 3D
>>12774703also to add to that, you don't see the whole innards at all times, it's just the bridge that has a window. The rest is blocked off, the engine does a good job at culling. Doesn't matter where the innards are technically built
>>12773937No shit sherlock. I was talking about reloading the save before bloody Chthon, going back through the portal to Nexus, getting the axe (so I would have it on ng+) and going back to Chthon, which also requires to beat the Machine again.
>>12774689I finished TNT few days ago and I see why it's hated. It's not all bad there's good new music and few good levels but it's mostly trash, oversized trash is the best way to describe it.
>>12774703>>12774707Damn, you're right.Cool spooky level tho
>>12774614It's kinda like romhacking, for altering weapons, enemies, objects, etc.>>12774689Opinions on TNT are widely mixed, some love it, some hate it.It's an uneven mess of a megawad, and I think there's some fucking shit in there, but I also think there's gems too. I always insist people give it a try for themselves, and while I expect there's gonna be parts they don't like, maybe so much they stop playing it, there's parts they might like, too.Anyway, you like it, which is nice, but prepare yourself for bumps in the road as you go.
>>12774563https://x.com/CACOBRO666
>>12774892Thank you.
>>12774689it has vibes I like a lot even if the level design isn't that great most of the time.TNT feels like a series of adventures. Weird and experimental levels that are frequently poorly balanced and starve you of resources. A lot of the difficulty comes from how batshit and overambitious the levels are rather than deliberate or good design. There's some levels I like a lot, but there's also just plain awful levels.
>>12774689While it's definitely overhated, it varies in quality a lot, very rough with some of its early attempts at big maps, and just plain bad in some maps. But some maps are absolutely great, you can definitely feel the adventure >>12774913, and even the worst maps are not that bad and not so numerous to make the whole thing not worth it.
>>12774173Ghoul's Forest 3? Yup, that's some real jumpscare horror alright. *sip*
>>12774932I think TNT gets overhated, but then occasionally I see people who love it more than is actually warranted.
>>12774689It's the last third or so of maps where the quality drops off, maybe halfway depending. MAP30 at least has an interesting puzzle. Firmly middle of the road with slightly higher highs and lower lows than Doom 2, it's grossly overshadowed to Plutonia being right there in Final Doom.
>>12775170Yes, outside of some weak maps in the middle, all the shit maps are in the third "episode".Here's my approximate ranking, just replayed it recently.MAP01: System Control 8/10MAP02: Human BBQ 9/10MAP03: Power Control 7/10MAP04: Wormhole 8/10MAP05: Hanger 9/10MAP06: Open Season 7/10MAP07: Prison 7/10MAP08: Metal 6/10MAP09: Stronghold 10/10MAP10: Redemption 6/10MAP11: Storage Facility 7/10MAP12: Crater 9/10MAP13: Nukage Processing 8/10MAP14: Steel Works 4/10MAP15: Dead Zone 5/10MAP16: Deepest Reaches 6/10MAP17: Processing Area 6/10MAP18: Mill 8/10MAP19: Shipping/Respawning 7/10MAP20: Central Processing 9/10MAP21: Administration Center 6/10MAP22: Habitat 4/10MAP23: Lunar Mining Project 3/10MAP24: Quarry 3/10MAP25: Baron's Den 6/10MAP26: Ballistyx 7/10MAP27: Mount Pain 8/10MAP28: Heck 7/10MAP29: River Styx 4/10MAP30: Last Call 2/10MAP31: Pharaoh 6/10MAP32: Caribbean 7/10
>>12774738yeah, Titan was the highlight of the episode. Apparently the whole thing, 3 maps, took the guy 5 years to build
>>12775186Interesting rankings, personally I really dislike MAP06 and MAP25, I think they're really awful.Stronghold is fucking ludo though, very fun level.
>>12775421Baron's Den is probably the most overhated TNT map. Everyone hate it, and back when I just started Dooming and first played TNT, it felt like the most disgusting and annoying map ever, with all the endless lava tunnel labyrinths. But it's actually a decent, and fairly linear map, and the lava floor is not really an issue. And turned out outside of the lava tunnels the map actually has some really cool pieces.Same with Open Season, when I was new it felt really disgusting, among the worst maps probably, but now I enjoyed it a lot.Steel Works is the opposite. Everything about it is good in theory, but in practice it's miserable to play through.
how do I fix this error on uzdoom?/usr/include/c++/16/bits/stl_vector.h:1253: constexpr std::vector<_Tp, _Alloc>::reference std::vector<_Tp, _Alloc>::operator[](size_type) [with _Tp = short int; _Alloc = std::allocator<short int>; reference = short int&; size_type = long unsigned int]: Assertion '__n < this->size()' failed.zsh: abort uzdoom ~/stuff/dl/doom/m12-hdoom_techdemo11.pk3
>the legless mastermind in Abyssal Apocrypha can be revived by ArchvilesOversight or feature? Unpleasant surprise eitherway
Are there any drop-in weapon mods? Like idk grenade-launcher.pk3?
>>12775453>Unpleasant surprise eitherwayMore or less unpleasant than the massive jumps in monster count at maps 19 and 20?
>>12775451in english please
>>12775451Looks like an array bounds check failed?Maybe hdoom_techdemo11 isn't compatible with that version of the engine.You'll have to give us more information, I think. Not much we can suggest at the moment.
>>12766221Sunlust: The Way We Remember It releasedhttps://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/159873
>>12775535I dont get those releases, same as the original version of doom or doom2 or whatever it wasjust go play the original, like what’s the interesting part? mobs are slightly shifted in numbers and locations? Red key is 2ft to the left? who cares enough to make a mappack out of this??
>>12775438I like Open Season, but it's not the lava that I hate about Baron's Den, it's the overall fuzzy progression that I dislike, complete with one of the keys being hidden away in a REALLY easy to miss manner.It may be less bad when you've played it multiple times, but for a first time play, that one is kind of an unforgivable Fuck You to the player. At least when Pharao was missing a key, that was an honest mistake which there's a patch for, and you can still bypass that with a not very hard straferun. Baron's Den hides a key as deliberate design, and the ONE potential hint is not just easily missable, they might wander out of there and you just kill them like any incidental combat, and then that's it, you're extremely unlikely to find it after that, whereupon you wander around for 40 minutes in a now empty level, until you give up and look up a guide or open the map in Doom Builder.It's an incredibly damning design choice to me, and the frustration and memory of it still brings it down bad for me. Compare to the Disaster Area in Mt. Pain, I think that's pretty annoying and shitty design, but if you exclude that part then the level isn't actually so bad, in fact I kinda like it. If you unhid the key in Baron's Den, that'd make the level a lot better, but it wouldn't make it like, good. At least to me.Habitat gets lots of hate, and partially it's deserved because it's an ugly map that isn't fun to play, but while this is a big map that sucks, you don't need to max it or get all the keys, you can plain head for the exit early and be done with as soon as you're able, which means SO much of the potential suffering is optional.
>>12775539The gimmick of "The Way We Remember It" series is that the authors are supposed to recreate a level entirely from memory, as close as they can without looking at the level in question.Whether or not that's a GOOD gimmick is another question (I watched some of Decino playing the first one, and it seemed like shit), but there's a certain appeal I guess in someone's fallible and incorrect interpretation of an existing level, in how it'd then potentially trip up people who are very used to said level, they can't necessarily count on their own memory when playing.
>>12775438>>12775558I may be misremembering or confusing it with another level but for what it's worth I seem to recall Baron's Den being quite starved of health and ammunition unless you go the correct way round it, so it's also frustrating as well as being for the most part a boring tunnel maze.I don't mind a boring tunnel maze, I like exploring, as long as I'm not also being made to feel anxious by being constantly starved of resources with death coming at any moment.
>>12775539I haven't played this one but in general I enjoy playing remakes of levels I already like, as they have both familiarity comfort value but also novelty value.
>>12775558I just launched the Den trying to remember what key you're talking about. Holy shit what a dumb idea. It's Eternal level of "fuck you", except Eternal actually expects you to suffer looking for keys and switches.
>>12775539>>12775663This one is a ebin shitpost mapset, the jokes kinda fell flat for me for the most part.Though the womb 2 joke being a Binding of Isaac map did get me.
>>12775451>hdoomGet out.
>>12775727Oh wait, I thought it was hdest, nevermind, you can stay.
>>12775730Don't try to pretend to be me, faggot. Get that gooner shit out of here.
>>12775535I notice a big uptake of furry/gender-bender/eunuch filled projects on our news reelBut maybe that's just how doomworld is in general nowadays...
>>12775568>Decino plays The Way We Remember It>the level where the whole map turns into an elevator because the author made it for the wrong source portAbsolute cinema
>>12775685>>12775760Obviously this was a mistake. It's not what I thought it was. Please don't put it the newspost >>12766221
>>12775675I don't like that much in Eternal Doom either, but at least with Eternal Doom, that kind of shit is a consistent gimmick through much of the set, it's a core theme. For Baron's Den, that key is just fucking tucked away in an anonymous little secret because go fuck yourself, and no other level in TNT does that.
>>12775734>>12775727Fuck off.
>>12775778what level is it? sounds funny
>>127757602x2 is there because it has one of /our guys/. I myself linked it. I just like to promote stuff that any fellow anons do, even if they themselves don't want to.I didn't link Abyssal Apocaryphca or whatever it's name was, but it's quite nice lovecraft-influenced wad. It seems it's made mostly by normal guys too and not usual discord inside groups.Troon groups as they are very rarely host open community projects and even more rarely they do it on dw forums, but discord instead. Dw as it is today is more of a release platform for multiple different groups, and I see no reason to not use it unless you are involved in some forum retard olympics. That being said, the Sunlust jokewad doesn't need to in our news.
>>12775734Hi Dragonfly. Eviternity 3 when?
>>12775974Can't remember, it was years ago. It was decino playing either Doom 1 or Doom 2 The Way We Remember it
>>12776059oh thanks that really narrows it down..
>>12776059https://youtu.be/cwv9isHKatw?list=PLYZp53E4M0t-EcmZU4EjWgDyb7k7f0qUo&t=2596It was E4M5, I knew it was one of the Doom 1 maps
>>12776075Beat me to it.>it's the project leader's mapHoly kek
>>12776075thanks
>>12776075lmao that unintentional absurdity shits all over myhouse
I love Doom so you don't have to.
我喜欢Doom。
>>12776152The alternate timeline where Decino is Doug Walker.
A Doom guy credit card...?
Big mouthed cacodemon moment
>>12776210He can bite and shoot fireballs but what else can that mouth do
>>12775451the trannies on their discord or git will figure that shit out. cant have the troonport not have the troonmod
>>12776229>not have the troonmod…HDoom?
>>12776229I'm not familiar with this language
Dissolution's dragon can suck all the dicks>Too much health>Earthquakes just in case you're doing too well>If he gets a shot off on higher difficulties you're basically deadGod damn.
>>12776307I just think he’s boring because he follows a set path, you can stay behind him the entire way.Now, those Drake mod dragons, on the other hand…
>shitload of cells on Veils of the Old Ones>no thunderbolt
>>12776330But is there a Laser cannon?
>>12775384It shows. Crazy details everywhere.
>>12776363my only issue with this set of maps is forced character. Jane's weapons fuckin suck
>>12776429Well, it's a passion project and proper balancing is one of it's many flaws.At least it's free.
Halfway through my first run of Quake's Hipnotic expansion. Might just be that I'm playing it on hard and had recently replayed Quake on Nightmare, but I'm enjoying the expansion more so far. I feel like some of the encounters stick out more and throw more at you at once. Has more of a Doom-like pace than id's maps did.
>>12766220That's from No Sleep For The Dead isn't it? I'm sure I've seen this exact video before somewhere.
>>12766221and isn't that Dario Casali playing?
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>>12776229I tried gzdoom and I got the same error.>>12775727>>12775734Honestly I'm trying to get better but I'm still curious about porn sometimes
>>12776363What's the name of this map? and how do I play? what do I need?
>>12776563You didn't make this.
>>12775451Anons are retarded—ask a dev instead, since you won't get any help here.
>>12776569He might have thought that "screenshot saturday" is just "post what you're playing", not something you're actively working on.
>>12776532After beating both expansions on Nightmare this week, I think I prefer Rogue. Both are good though, but I think I prefer the two recent Machinegames expansions overall.
shit, I'm almost out of duke screenshots
>>12776583lol I don't wanna use shitty social media
>>12776604https://github.com/UZDoom/UZDoom/issuesPost it here if you can't find the problem searching
>>12775451>how do I fix this error on uzdoom?put the files on the trash bin icon
>>12776075>project lead's own map>rogue zero RIGHT OUT THE FUCKING GATE
>>12776583>retards can't debug a random C++ stdlib assertion failure with almost no other informationSensei...I will immediately sudoku for this terrible dishonor...
>>12776583Better yet, just ask Claude. No need for snarky know it alls giving non-answers anymore.
>>12776672@gork is this true
quacko demon
>>12776730Finally the idtech1/2 crossover we've all been waiting for.
>>12776672If you asked claude, xe would ask for more information too
New bread?
>>12776783>breadShhh. I wouldn't say that too loud since there's a duck three posts above you.
>>12776861I would not be surprised if it were to be the next image and title.
>>12776730>quacko>cack-oI always pronounce it cake-o-demon :-/I know it's wrong but it's a habit I can't break.
>>12776783I'll do it.
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