Is there any RPG where you aren't the "Chosen One" or some super gary stu praised and loved by everyone?
>>3443103Arcanum
>>3443109>faggot trashPass.
DQ5? Sweet Home? Metal Max ? Musashi no Bouken? SaGa Frontier 2 has the chosen one but the later part of the Game is not the MC.Legaia count as chosen one? They just got ra-seru but because he touched the tree, Noa is more linked to the story/villain than the mc
>>3443103Matsuno games for sure. In Final Fantasy Tactics you are persecuted as a Heretic by the Church, and in Tactics Ogre for the better part of half of the game you are called 'The Butcher of Golyat". To be fair, the name isn't entirely unwarranted. In FFT however you play as a forgotten character of history.
>>3443103Wild ARMs, especially 3. You're just a small time contractor.
>>3443103Tons of them? The whole "chosen one" I'M COMING thing isn't all that common.
>>3443103Daggerfall
>>3443186Of course it is. You are always the reincarnation of someone, son of someone, clone of some big shot. In some you start as a commoner but then mid game everyone is cock worshipping you. I want a RPG where I can play with a Travis Touchdown kind of character.
>>3443186this. it's only secondaries who don't play very many rpgs that complain about chosen ones.
>>3443103Trails except for CS.Kuro may or may not be the case, we'll know for sure once the 3rd game drops this year.
>>3443103>"Chosen One">Gary stud>SAOKirito was just a nice guy and a gud gamer.
>>3443103Low effort post with bait image made by a modtranny. Go back to VRChat, faggot.
>>3443189>You are always the reincarnation of someone, son of someone, clone of some big shot.FF2, Metal Max, Digimon Cyber Sleuth Hackers Memory, Otaku seiza , every Dungeon crawler that isn't SMT(because the point of Megaten was reincarnation),...
>>3443103Most western ones? I cannot think of any wrpg where you really are a chosen one that everyone loves aside of maybe Skyrim.
>>3443152Gnomish hands typed this.
>>3443357Dishonest
>>3443357baldur's gate you're a demi-god. pillars of eternity your soul was a significant person in a past life and most of the plot happened to them not you. pathfinder wrath of the righteous you have a whole backstory for why you're special that gets revealed through the game. it's annoyingly common.
>>3443103Almost every drpg
>>3443433ShadowrunFalloutWasteland
>>3443103Very old games, those where just unforgiving. There was no MC, and if you wanted to get rid of one character in modern games you make a click and that's it. In old games you had to make sure that character is disliked, otherwise whoever character suggested to kick it out of the party may get kicked out instead. Also forget about trying to kill it: it can trigger a chain of assassinations. The best option was to put that character in the front lines and hope his friends don't get depressed too much to leave the party.
>>3443103Ar Tonelico 2. MC is just some normal guy, perhaps well-respected in the military but largely unknown outside of that. The 2 girls in the team are the chosen ones.
>>3443103Kenshi>>3443188Literally all TES games are made in mind for the player to be the hero, not a bad thing but not what op asked for
>>3443515damn you beat me to it
>>3443515>Literally all TES games
>>3443527>imageBut you can bear morrowind without even delivering the package?
Trails from Zero/Azure
>>3443103>Manage weak party barely able to feed themselves>Can't beat any bosses without massive luck>Main goal is getting rich enough to abandon adventuring for goodI can only think of Battle brothers but it's barely an rpg and you do get op in late game which isn't fun
>>3443283Dual wielding was literally given to the player chosen to fight heathcliff, this is stupid and dumb but he IS the chosen one.
>>3443439>fallout>pc literally called the chosen oneohnonononono
>>3443283>Kirito was just a nice guy and a gud gamer.he is a Gary Stu Harem LN lead, /a/
>>3443103OP is a fag the entire point of video games is to turn your main character into a gary stu with good gameplay. Stupid fucking thread.
>>3443103MMOsIn every single player game you are the chosen one by default as your character is the only one controlled by a humam
>>3443109You are, but it's more that by sheer coincidence you're the right person with the right set of skills in the right place and time to save the world. It simply wasn't prophecy, it was chance.
>>3443357You're the Chosen One in Morrowind and Oblivion too.
>>3443103The Courier
Why DO people dislike the Chosen One as a concept anyway?
>>3445410Because if you were destined to do something all along then that's basically just you being bound to fate and thus you have no real actual agency.
>>3445410they got told it was bad online by hipsters, to dislike chosen ones and power fantasies and moral certitude is fashionable. basically they are npcs.
>>3445410Uninteresting at this point and feels unsatisfying. Climbing up from being an average Joe or some mediocrity is much more satisfying narratively.
>>3443186Spoiler that movie if you're so good.>>3443103Been playing Zwei. You're just dumbass kids in that one.
Neoquest 1
>>3443103>Drakensang: The River of TimeYou are just some adventurer who is helping a noble knight with his political investigation.>EnderalYou are the Chosen One and a super gary stu (but actually lol, lmao even)
>>3445406Martin is the chosen one in Oblivion, you just do the hard work and then go crazy and mantle Sheogorath.
>>3443103KenshiAge of DecadenceColony ShipExpeditions VikingExpeditions RomeFalloutSunless SeaUnderrail
Do you consider these backstories "chosen ones"?>reincarnation of someone important>kid/relative of someone important>mc has a special curse that grants power>powerful being gives special power to mc>one of the/only survivor of a tragic event>one of the last/or just last of a species/race>mc is the only person that knows how to beat villain>mc stumbles upon a special power
>>3445410i don't .OP is a fag of sodom and salty. christianity most based religion in word. jebus and anime on my side.
>>3445410It's just a boring and played out concept at this point. It's also a lazy out for mediocre writers; why try to creatively find ways to keep the MC relevant to the story when the stakes get upped when you can just go ahead and make them the chosen one.
>>3445930Yes, you should add>main character is a prodigy at combat/magic
>>3445480This. People regurgitate stupid shit they hear without even understanding it, as long as it makes them seem intelligent or thoughtful or whatever. It's like how you see people criticize games for "shitty writing" while not even grasping what the story was about.
>>3445147Maybe if it's a game for children
>>3446122children do know how to have fun, don't they?
>>3446122No, it's the overwhelming majority of videogames for any age. Exceptions only occur when writers deliberately interfere with natural flow of gameplay.
>>3443152Gnome post detected.
>>3445930No, those are all just attributes that make you special. You're not the Chosen One unless it's your destiny to do something, that's why you've been chosen.
>>3443103Digital Devil Saga
plot twist: chosen one is simply a self-fulfilling prophecy. there is no fate, but the appellation gives a person the power to push through and rise to the expectation. losers hypnotize themselves to remain losers.
>>3446553So just Morrowind. Possibly.
>>3446565morrowind is more copying dune, where the chosen one prophecy was planted and used in order to give a person the power to manipulate the people who believe it. there's no indication that the nerevarine ever believes himself to actually be nerevar reborn since he works to fulfill those conditions.
>>3446568It’s really the players headcanon, although there are a few thin dialogue options to express it, iirc in the showdown with dagoth ur at the end. You could roleplay it either sincerely or cynically as an Imperial manipulator, equally.
>>3446568Dune is different because Paul is absolutely the Chosen One, but the twist is it's actually a curse and not a gift because fate can't be changed and knowing the future means you're a slave to future actions that you can't prevent.
>>3446568The game gives you opportunity to roleplay every possible take at the end.Lore also supports it.It's the top quality appropriate use of vague writing.Shame about the later shit lore about the region.
>>3444997This is shy I loved Zero and Azure. You are literally a traffic cop who beats demons to death with his baton.
>>3446588he's not at all a chosen one, it's an inversion of that, he's a constructed one.
>>3446679No he was explicitly supposed to NOT be the Chosen One because he was born a generation early and thus outside of the Bene Geserit's control. But then he turned out to be the Chosen One anyway which fucked over everything for them, and then it turned out being the Chosen One is a bad thing since in his own words, in terms of death count he is 10,000x worse than Hitler.
>>3446684no, the bene geserit were genetically engineering a type of superhuman and he got spit out one generation earlier because jessica fell for the duke's cock. then it turns out the species as a whole, through the collective unconscious, was desiring war to refresh the gene pool and he tried to mitigate it without giving up his humanity as leto did with his golden path. the idea is that precognition still leaves you a slave to your own being.
>>3446684>in terms of death count he is 10,000x worse than Hitler.Best I can do is 500x worse
>>3445771hell fuckin yeah good taste
>>3445419Perhaps you should consider pic rel
>>3446727Wanna take me up on that offer?
>>3443103yes.tons of them.try playing videogames sometime, retard
>>3443162wizardry 4elnarddrod rpgbarkley shut and jam gaiden sagafront missionmoon rpg remixlisa: the painfulmegaman battle networkshadow towerlunacidhylics
Unironically OG Final Fantasy VII. Actual spoilers: Cloud is just some fucking country bumpkin that washed out of special forces selection and got PTSD so hard that he started thinking he was his super cool war buddy that died saving his faceless stormtrooper ass. Cloud does end up getting comparable abilities to said dead buddy, and they are exceptional, but are far from unique and more like being brainjacked into becoming a member of Delta force.
>>3449419And then everyone clapped.
>>3449419a country bumpkin that throws a superhuman dude that whooped his super cool buddy's ass into the lifestream through pure force of will
>>3443103Might and Magic 9
>>3449433Tard strength country boy that washed out of special forces selection because of a weakness to mind control, not any lack in his physical ability. And superhuman dude was barely limping around already from having been impaled from behind with a sharpened I-beam 30 seconds prior.
>>3449451bumpkin who washed because of a faulty self-image wasn't in any better condition and had a sword going through him. a win's a win. blondes>brunettes
>>3449455I'd rather be stabbed by a katana than the sharpened car door that is the buster sword. But yeah.
>>3449457i'd rather have about 30x the hitpoints and be a genetically engineered superhuman, but yeah, the dissociation from beng experimented on by a mad scientist is more eyecatching and people miss the undercurrent.
>>3445078>Dual wielding was literally given to the player chosen to fight heathcliff,Various gamers were given unique skills. Read the WN and LN spoilers.>>3445090he married one chick/Assuna. the rest got BTFO, including his sister/cuzzin.why u people lie so much?
>>3449505>he married one chick/Assuna.and yet they all still want him.I played Fatal Bullet, I saw the harem bullshit.
>>3443103I want a game where you're the anti-chosen one and your goal from your evil master is to ingratiate yourself to the chosen one, gain their trust, sabotage their party, drive wedges between the various factions and the hero, all while staying below suspicion that you're the root of the party's woes. Until at the end of the game where the hero is ostracized, lost, and full of self doubt continuing his hopeless quest alone except for his final and most faithful ally who stuck with him through it all, then at this lowest point you finally sink the dagger into his back.
>>3443103Age of DecadenceFallout NVFallout TacticsGrimrockKingdom Come DelivaranceMount and Blade
>>3449507There are a couple of porn games like that. But they are more porn and less gameplay than your average RPGM game.
>>3445831>Expeditions Rome>Fallout>Being Caesar 2 and the Chosen One
>>3449510That's a shame. I really just get disappointed in the evil paths of most RPGs where you go around being puppy kicking, lollypop stealing "evil". If you're evil you don't want to go around advertising that fact to everyone. You should be trying to achieve your underhanded goals without bringing suspicion flatly on yourself. Lay seeds of doubt that grow on their own, do evil deeds only when you have a patsy to blame and a solid alibi, build a reputation of honor and loyalty so no one would even think you were capable of evil, discover all the fail-safes the heroes have to prevent the dark lord's resurrection and then disable them, but without anyone knowing you've done so, ect.Are there any RPGs where they even separate your evil reputation from your actual personality? I recall playing RPGs where I tried to play the long-con type evil character who builds up a reputation of good and justice first only to find at the end hadn't collected enough "evil points" by kicking puppies and stealing lollypops to do the evil action that actually matters.
>>3449513You aren't a chosen one though. You are literally just some guy. Caesar dies in front of you, and your dumbass just drew a bad straw.
>>3443196>Trails except for CSI assumed that Rean was the reincarnation of Emperor Dreichles and was pleasantly surprised when I was wrong.
>>3449516>Are there any RPGs where they even separate your evil reputation from your actual personality?Most non alignment based CRPGs do allow you to take the evil option at any time. Fallout New Vegas might be a good approximation since you have both negative and positive rep with factions as separate things and Karma only allows you to take some gameplay perks.My biggest pet peeve with evil paths in game is that rarely can you be truly evil. It's either Saturday morning cartoon shit of pensioning the water supply or just the writers repressed anger of you can cripple someone, but that someone is also EvilTM. Porn games have been the only place where I could just torture a normal person for the fun of it and the game acknowledging it.
>>3449520>Porn games have been the only place where I could just torture a normal person for the fun of it and the game acknowledging it.what kind
>>3449520So porn RPGs are the only TRVE RPGs? Give some recs then I'm curious. The only "pron RPG" I've ever played was Dances with Rogues.
>>3449522>>3449526Don't get too pumped up. Not all porn games are RPGs and most porn games aren't that good.Porn RPGs you have The Last Sovereign but you don't play a bad guy, Rance series you just play a funny rapist, Masters of Raana is closer to that, Strive series is more management with RPG mini games but it's good, Unveilling the Unknown is a porn VN with a basic dungeon crawler stapled to it. You could also stretch FC Pregmod into being an RPG. There are more.But the being the bad guy part is more for just VN's. Friends in Need is the most interesting take on being an asshole. Since you can be the most depraved creature to one NPC but treat all other NPCs fine. The game isn't developed enough for the game to ever acknowledge that.
>>3449516Hero party must fall.
>>3449526>porn RPGs are the only TRVE RPGs
Chained Echoes has you start the preparations to make an organization that will be able to beat the big bad in hundreds of years
>>3449507>staying below suspicionits above suspicion
>>3443103In most oldschool roguelikes you're just a rando adventurer going down the dungeon to grab an item, kill a dragon or some shit like that. You >MAY< ascend to godhood in some of them (mostly Nethack and all its variations) but even there it's late game optional stuff.
>>3446568>Dune invented the concept of the false chosen one, or subverted the ideaI expect to read this type of retarded nonsense from /lit/.
>>3449526Pronant Symphony has an evil route which is way too evil according to people who played it.>Not all porn games are RPGs and most porn games aren't that good.is a severe understatement if you take into account untranslated jap shit btw. Like 90% of what is tagged as "RPG" over there means "CG hunt garbage made with RPG Maker" and nowadays the devs even boast that their so-called "games" have no boring combat and will not let you get lost because they're linear as a rail.Pretty much any H-game is a distilled example of the lowest effort possible to exploit braindead coomers, especially when AI art is involved.
>>3449702>and nowadays the devs even boast that their so-called "games" have no boring combatUnfortunately, rpgmaker games tend to have shitty combat and that's coming from a guy who likes turn based games. They are often slow, do not allow even rudimentary stratiegies like use tank to protect mages (as is often with 4 niggas in a row genre), the itemization doesn't feel rewarding and there is no build variety. Games like Fall in Labyrinth which at least attempt to solve some of those issues are in the minority. The Last Sovereign has mediocre combat as well but it defends itself by everything else aside from that.
>>3449688figures that a /lit/tard can't read a simple post. i guarantee morrowind was partially influenced by dune. ashlanders=fremen
>>3443103arguably the most recognisable rpg ever has this as its central story theme.so yes it exists.
>>3449567>game is full of disgusting bullshit, shit, piss, gore, bloody rapes and gapes, but if you're good at video games (like me) you can avoid all of it>have fun, avoiding all the pitfalls slowly amassing money by doing tedious shit>finally manage to make enough money to flee the island while painstakingly protecting her chastity from all the monsters and ugly bastard rapists>Epliogue: "She dies a lonely miserable haggard old crone with her hymen intact"I felt attacked. She was too good for any of the psychopaths, monsters, and monstrous psychopaths. She deserves to be happy with a man she loves who loves her back (like me).
>>3449433Yeah.In the end, though, the only real conclusion I'm drawing from this thread is that OP is ignorant and incoherent
>>3449507FFIV dick teased so hard with this shit, the opening with your protagonist having just slain an entire village of innocent people and murdering one of your party member's parent really got me going for a second and actually made it uniquely stand out from the rest in a way I never expected.then it immediately throws the premise of you playing as a evil character in the trash hard after the first 30 minutes and reverts back to your typical hero fantasy rpg schlock.it still has a lot of charm but I wish they would've actually made you a true antagonist or even just a dark / evil hero for once.
>>3447231>mmbnHow are Lan and Megaman.exe not chosen ones
>>3443103>since the dawn of time protagonists have been chosen ones>greatest works of fictions revolved around self-insert>some fat-ass no life youtuber whose biggest aspiration in life is talking about cartoons said it's bad so now every parrots same shitYou haven't even watched SAO you read reddit posts about it, go back f/a/ggot.
>>3454055/a/ loves harem shit like SAO
alchemia story
>>3453739how the fuck are they?
>>3454496>grandson of the creator of the nu-internet>has super special soul and DNA fused navi that no one else gets>everyone has you, and 11-12 year old kid, facing world-ending threatsHow are they not?
>>3454545>has super special soul and DNA fused navi that no one else getsthat wasn't until the later games, i'm talking about battle network 1 as a game alone
>>3454585that is in the plot of the first game
>>3443103Disco elysium. You play an alchoholic detective who gets bullied by every single person he encounters including children and the only reason you barely manage to solve the case is because your partner is holding your hand and guiding you through the whole process.
>>3443152Like pottery! This just like on /tg/ when someone say "If D&D is so shit then what else should I play?" and no matter what is posted or how much better in every way it is the reply will always be just like >>3443152 because they are always posts by disingenuous faggot that never actually wanted what they asked for.
>>3443103There is Tales of Androgyny where you can fulfill your fantasies of being the bottom bitch.
>>3443103There is no escape from the Chosen One. Even if it's never brought up in game, the fact is your character was chosen. By you, by the developers, whatever. Even if you just want to play a complete loser, it will still be a loser that was chosen to play out a role. You are a chosen one, anon. Your parents made sure of that, even if they weren't consciously aware of the choice.
>>3455111What about that one survival crafting game where your character is randomly generated and tied to your account?
>>3445079>fallout>confuses it with fallout 2>only 2 people in the game think you are the chosen oneStop being such an autistic spaz, holy shit.
>>3454951i never saw that ever mentioned in the first game, show me
>>3455181from the wiki:>During a final bout with MagicMan, MegaMan is severely injured. It is revealed that MegaMan contains the human DNA of Lan's twin brother, Hub, who passed away when he was very young. In order to revive him, Lan's father gives him the Hub.bat program to sync Lan's DNA with Hub's, his monozygotic identical twin.>Hub.bat removed the 0.001% difference in DNA, making MegaMan's code 100% in sync with Lan's DNA, meaning that any damage to Hub would also damage Lan. With the Hub.bat, MegaMan is able to fight and defeat the Life Virus.
>>3455181>i never saw that ever mentioned in the first game, show mehttps://youtu.be/v8_K3gUBs6Q?t=542
>>3445480I'm sorry, you're right. I'll believe what you believe now.
>>3457398ok, npc-kun
>>3449567Yes
>>3445410Youtubers told them it's bad
>>3460076anti-chosen one hipsterism predates youtube by a fair margin. it spawned from leftist mentalities of no great men or fate or divinity allowed, which is funny because it's mostly espoused by people who see themselves as smarter than the average bear.
White Knight Chronicle 2
>>3443103Pretty much every MMO before the post-WoW craze started wore "start as a useless schmuck" on its sleeve.
>>3443283>fit, healthy, social and studious despite apparently being japan's biggest poopsocker>seemingly the only person playing who remembers anything from the beta test>uses this knowledge to become far more powerful than entire militaries dedicating every waking moment to learning and escaping the game>does all of this while taking time to periodically mope and have little brooding excursions and lakeside holidays>gets super special god ability that magically carries through to every other game he playshe is a steaming cauldron of stu
>>3454055>since the dawn of time protagonists have been chosen onesName three.
>>3443299Most SMT spin-offs, and even certain mainline games like If and pic related, aren't chosen one stories or reincarnation focused either. A lot of the time you're just some guy who stumbled into some occult bullshit and has to adapt.
>>3443103in its inception Atelier was meant to be more like the slice of life of a character that lives in a fantasy world rather than a hero destined to save the world or whatever.
>>3454957Harry is the chosen one though.
>>3462748
>>3443103PokemonMother 1 and 3
