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It's up
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ChIMm0vFYlI
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lol
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>>3479653
That took a while.
So I can play in August when they fix most of the glaring bugs this will cause
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>A Dance of Masks is the sixth and final premium DLC for Pathfinder: Wrath of the Righteous in Season Pass 2, one last love letter to the Knight Commander and their loyal companions.
Gather all your companions and travel back to where it all started – the city of Kenabres, destroyed and now risen from the ashes.

>Visit a festival, celebrate your victories, socialize with friends and loved ones, watch the fireworks… And thwart the plans of villains trying to spoil the fun!-

>A new adventure will take you back to Kenabres and beyond: to a new enemy's stronghold- Personal events for every companion — you’ve seen them fight, now watch them have a day off- A new romantic event with every romanceable companion-

>An otherworldly arena where you can test your might against some truly mythic enemies-

>11 new character archetypes, a new weapon and the ability to switch your grip on the weapon from one-handed to two-handed-

>Fully voiced dialogues

Even more fucking archetypes,. Sure, why not.
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citadel glurge for romance shitters, thanks I hate you
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>>3479756
>>A new adventure will take you back to Kenabres and beyond: to a new enemy's stronghold
>>An otherworldly arena where you can test your might against some truly mythic enemies
Seems like you have shit to do even if you romanced nobody
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>>3479768
Anon, anti-romancefags like to pretend that 99% of the game is romance just to have something to complain about, you should know this by now
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>>3479770
I'd be more worried about the repercussions of 'Fully voiced dialogues' and feedback being 'I bought because of that'.
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>>3479776
They already confirmed their next game will be fully voice acted, better get used to it.
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>>3479653
>proper Golden Dragon/Devil path status: NEVER EVER
Oh no no no no
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>>3479895
>Dataminer found russian dialogue about the cut devil content
>Starrok keeps hyping up the update that will come with the dlc, saying that's going to add something no one expects
It's happening you know
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>>3479897
You mean just like the Thanos DLC that was totally going to have lots of post-game mythic content?
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>>3479897
>>3479895
Oh and I forgot to add
>they explicitly said they would never add extra content for the barebones paths as DLC
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>>3479902
That's even worse kek.
I'd rather 'pay' for content than not have it at all. Owlkeks are so fucking lazy it's disgusting.
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>>3479916
If they actually released a "mythic path content" DLC you would be complaining about how they're a bunch of jews and that it should have been a free update, don't kid yourself
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>>3479919
A good shitposter knows how to adapt
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>>3479919
I wouldn't. My opinion of Owlcat's competence and work ethic is so low that I'd consider it a great improvement if they actually delivered.
As it stands, both PF games and RT are rushed as fuck and instead of addressing the fundamental problems, the devs choose to bloat the game with inconsequential nonsense.
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>>3479930
What are you going to do if the update does indeed add the devil content?
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>>3479934
>It's shit
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>>3479934
What kind of content?
If they restructure the path so the devil is act 3 at latest and add a questline of satisfying length, then I'd be satisfied since it'll be the first time Owlcat owns up to their numerous marketing scams.
If they put in a few pathetic reactivity lines like they did for Thanos DLC then Thainen and his mongol rapebaby uncle can fuck off.
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>>3479946
There's absolutely no way in hell they're going to change a late game path to be early game, you can't possibly be this fucking retarded
The cut devil content involved corrupting Galfrey and turning all of Mendev into Cheliax 2.0, as well as an alternative romance for Galfrey if you romance her as a devil
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>>3479872
That either meams less dialogue or they will have get creative with the voice actors.
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>>3479968
Creative? how so?
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>>3479968
not really. their games have sold very well so they should have a much bigger budget that can go to voice actors.
i personally dont care for it but it wont stop me from playing
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>>3479968
>or they will have get creative with the voice actors.
Based Morrowind enjoyer
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>>3479968
Or making a game that is more streamlined than a CRPG/less dialogue branches.
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Help, I cannot figure out the catch of this archetype.
It sounds like you get everything a normal slayer gets. But you also get to extra rape the Large, Huge, Gargantuan, Colossal size type of opponents.

That's too good to be true, so what's the catch?
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>>3480407
The drawback is the last line.
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>>3480522
That's a really cheap drawback in that case since the Studied Target auto engages on sneak attacks either way.
This really qualifies the Spawn Slayer as the strongest Slayer archetype of them all.

Especially if there is some sort of bug where the player size is dwarf/grone/Halfling/etc. for extra bonuses.
It's worth investigating.
Also if you consider the sheer amount of big sized opponents throughout the game.

I hear people jerk off to the Deliverer Slayer, but his 2D6 extra damage is nothing compared to the Spawn Slayer.
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>>3479653
>swarm shit at the end
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I bounced off the opening of WOTR hard and I have it on good authority the game is full of cringe faggots. Is there anything in it worth giving a second chance over?
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>>3480536
You get to kill a whole lot of demons and demon cultists if you’re into that
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>>3480525
Spawn means that if your first hit does not connect, you do not get the bonuses. A small risk since it becomes a bit more likely your full attack will miss.
Deliverer is nice for a shield basher build since it's a lot of hits you add up. Plus if you multiclass, since by lv 10, you got the feature you wanted.

Arcane Enforcer is good for a lv3-4 dip
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>>3480563
>Spawn means that if your first hit does not connect
You can still study target as move action before combat starts, ie. ambush the unsuspecting opponents.
The difference is more in the 2nd , 3rd, 4th opponent.

>Plus if you multiclass, since by lv 10, you got the feature you wanted.
That's a good point. They are different beasts for that purpose.

Also I guess it's just one of those classes which are campaign dependent. Some campaigns have lots of large size opponents, some have few, or worse, tiny opponents mostly.
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>>3479949
>There's absolutely no way in hell they're going to change a late game path
Exactly. They're never going to fix their shit. That's the point.
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>>3479653
>11 new character archetypes, a new weapon and the ability to switch your grip on the weapon from one-handed to two-handed
Realistically, who has the time or willpower to try out all the classes/archetypes in this game? I think majority of players won't even replay it.
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>>3479934
whatever would make you think they'd add more evil content?
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>>3480659
Runs on standalone midnight isles.
I am at 102 archetypes done (with a few technically covered from my kingmaker runs)
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>>3479684
>Even more fucking archetypes
god forbid i get to do more in a game :(
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>>3480659
Like anon above said you'd really run a full campaign to test out new characters. That's why you have players who either love or hate shorter standalone "campaigns" Owlcat has been doing depending on how they approach these games.
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>>3480667
There is some threshold such that below this threshold, adding more character classes and subclasses is beneficial and adds to the depth and available options, and above this threshold adding more is simply bloatmaxxing. I could not define its precise location but it’s clear that pathfinder has passed it, much like with races in (((nu-DnD)))
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>>3480667
>>3480916
As long as the new archetypes have good purpose to them they are fine.
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>>3479684
The computer games have only implemented around half of the total amount of archetypes that exist.
We are no where near completed development.
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>>3481020
PF1 is dead.
This is the last hurrah.
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>>3481039
Yeah, you're gay just like wlcat.
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>>3479684

I only played the vanilla version before all the DLC and there were already plenty more classes than in any other CRPG. What´s actually been added? May give an extra incentive to revisit this now. Specially after how disappointing BG3 ended up being.
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>>3481106
Many archetypes are just minimal changes of how the class works, few are a very distinct build.
Anyway. there has been one extra companion and class with his questline, 3 standalone campains, and one campaign that has been implemented main game and also serves as standalone roguelike mode. Also. a couple extra quests, events , spells and items.
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>>3481110

Seems like quite a lot to look forward to then. I´ll check it out in more detail.
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>>3481106
>May give an extra incentive to revisit
It shouldn't be.
All of the archetypes you haven't tried yet should in theory be just as interesting.
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>>3479897
>Starrok keeps hyping up the update that will come with the dlc,
Cuckold cuckrrok from owlcucks is doing this for three years straight now. No shame at all.
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>>3481307
They aren't even fixing Arue's retarded ending
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i've only played kingmaker, did wotr get rid the cinemasins ding whenever you had a perception check?
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>>3481326
Shoulda picked Cam-Cam, silly goose.
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>>3481326
her romance sucks beyond the ending. just really boring stuff.
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>>3481520
>Shoulda picked the one who cucks and dumps you
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>>3481522
You’re half right, she does leave you, because she’s fundamentally broken and irredeemable and you can’t fix her with your dick
The correct move is to not romance anyone and just kill a bunch of demons, fyi.
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>>3481529
>half
Don't pay attention to what she does during her act 4 quest
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>>3479653
>the ending
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>>3480916
This is just not true. Whether the new additions will offer more real options or now depends on what is specifically added. Some games go the safe route of only offering samey stuff from the outset, but they could add significant options at any point. You're unlikely to ever get to the point where they can't add such options.
What is more likely is that you only play certain types of characters or you feel overwhelmed and paralyzed by the options rather than seeing them as relating to playing specific concepts.
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>>3479930
WHAT THE FUCK, EVEN OUTER FUCKING WORLDS MANAGES TO BTFO YOU IN TERMS OF END SLIDE COMPLEXITY ARE YOU FUCKING STUPID OR SOMETHING? HOLY SHIT IF YOU ARE SO FUCKING LAZY THAT YOU CAN'T MAKE A PROPER TRIGGER SHEET OR END RESULT TREE, JUST FUCKING GLANCE AT THE PILLARS OF ETERNITY OR EVEN FUCKING UNDERRAIL'S WIKI FOR THE END SLIDES SEGMENT TO SEE HOW COMPETANT PEOPLE DO IT YOU LAZY AS SMEKALKA LOVING RUSKIES
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>>3481532
Not cucking the player.
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>>3482048
>bg3 at release: hold my beer
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>>3482139
She goes to the brothel to kill slaves there behind your back (specifically telling the owner not to tell anyone about it) and as per her own words she needs dick after a good kill
You're getting cucked, bro, she got dicked every time she went there
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>his party doesn't have an incense synthesizer whose attack aura stacks with everything
>his party doesn't have a 2nd incense synthesizer whose debuff aura stacks with all of his illusion spells
>his party doesn't have a 3rd Incense synthesizer for all the other fun auras that stacks with everything
Amateurs, amateurs as far as the eye can see
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>>3482170
I play mutation warrior, I have alchemical bonus covered
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>I'm a mutt warrior
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>>3482184
Oh, this thing is back again
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>>3482165
Weird fantasy bro
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>>3480659
No point, they all play the same.
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>>3482170
Tell me where to put that and I will sis.
>Trickster reach vivisectionist MC
>Paladin
>Cleric
>Brown fur
>Skald
>Freebooter
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>>3482141
>at release
Did they actually add more stuff? In wotr I found the ending a bit underwhelming, but throughout the game it felt like I was given a lot of options as evil character.
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>>3481326
Is blood kineticist working?
I thought so.
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>first playthrough decided to go lich
>go through with it
Man, everyone is dead or scared of me. How could this have possibly happened? I just wanted to kill demons efficiently.
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>>3482909
Pharasma propaganda
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>>3482780
lol
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Is Angel Bloodrager viable or should i re-roll into a different class. constant fatigue in the starting lvl is killing my enjoyment and i am getting tired of hearing the negress and Camellia combat lines
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I really dislike every single companion
It's amazing they managed to create an entirely unlikable cast
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>>3482947
I think that's a you problem. What kind of companion would you like?
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>>3482961
The angel supporting characters like the old man, Yaniel and Targona.
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How does one get better at this type of games ? PF, PoE, BG3 etc when I never played tabletop games ? Do anons here actually read the ruleset of these games before playing them ? I mean don't get me wrong I played a few of these and I finished them but it didn't feel satisfying because I never really learned the system
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>>3482976
Bigger number good
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>>3482978
>>3482976
Except BG3, that one actually has tactical depth.
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>>3482978
>>3482980
Sure, but for instance what does saving throw mean? I played bg3 on tactician and I still have no idea what the fuck that means
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>>3482976
Personally I discovered CRPGs first and tabletop later, but it really depends on the game. My "background" was WoW and rts games, so I always think in terms of stats first, which works really well for something like PoE or Underrail where its about stats and percentages instead of dice rolls. But then PF filtered me hard and it felt like an entirely different mindset was needed to understand the dice mechanics. I can't objectively rate how it would be to play BG3/5E DnD game fresh, since I already knew a lot from PF(even though I still consider myself a noob in it). However, BG3 had really good UI feedback in terms of percentages that I feel would make it perfect for learning a dice based system, as it lets you see just how much of an impact something like Bless or a +1 weapon actually have.
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>>3482990
I *think* that certain sources of damage or certain spells have modifiers as targeting specific attributes. So a mind controll will target Will. The one inflicting damage/spell/debuff rolls a dice + modifiers for that attribute or spell type. The one targeted rolls for Will and adds their Will save score. If the roll is higher, then tge effect is negated or transformed to its lesser version (some spells go like "deal xDy damage on spell failure", so they can't be completely resisted)
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>>3482990
>Sure, but for instance what does saving throw mean?
A saving throw is a check required in order to resist an effect, in order to resist the effect, the character must roll a d20 + whatever save is targetted and meet or exceeded the DC of the effect.
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>>3480659
I just keep stacking classes into my leaning tower of gestalt.
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>>3482976
"understanding the ruleset" is greatly overestimated by people who already know the inner workings. you don't NEED to know that much to just play the game and enjoy. not to mention all these crpgs have extensive glossaries and tutorials if you want deeper understanding.
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>>3480659
couldn't be me, default wizard 20 my beloved
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>>3482938
>finally decided
Anon are you retarded?
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>>3483899
She finally decided to have a slave transformed, she still went there several times behind your back, as she admits right below that
Leave it to a waifufag to not read
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>>3483944
She went there to kill not to fuck.
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>>3484095
Remind me what does Camellia do after killing, in her own words?
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>>3482990
saving throw means you're imposing an effect (so it technically "always hits") but they get to chance to defend it which results in either a less severe or no effect
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>>3479919
If it was shitty and/or low effort like the other DLC's, let's be fucking real
he'd have a leg to stand on.
In reality, nothing Owlcat does will ever be finished.
People thought all that 40k money would let RT release as a finished game and got exactly what they deserved.
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>>3482941
angel blooded draconic ancestry primalist bloodrager with a 4 level dip into dragon disciple is one the strongest gish builds in the game

keep doing what you're doing
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>>3482784
Vivisectionist doesn't play the same as the alchemist at all. What are you even talking about?
Some of those archetypes literally turns the class upside down.
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>>3484125
What 40k money?
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>>3484461
The anon assumes that geedubs isn't one of the greediest money pinching companies in the industry and that they generously funded the production of the Rogue Trader game.
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>>3484278
>dip
Just embrace gestalt classes already.
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>>3484461
I mean from 40k fanboys.
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>>3482891
They add a prologue for the game taking in place sometime after Act 3.

The next update is meant to give Evil/Dark Urge characters a few new endings and options. But i doubt that going to be anything as signficant as Evil characters as WoTr
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new archtypes
https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/1184370/view/4155211502139959812?l=english
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>>3488449
>Skald
Meh, unless advanced rogue talents get shared with inspired rage
>Fighter
Boring, but practical. Which 2 hander does have two retarded entries though (beyond Finnean)
>Slayer
Intrigued
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>>3488449
>Double reach weapons
That should be fun
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>>3488465
Greataxes
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>>3488449
Im interested in what part 2 comes with, the shadow wizard and new paladin frim last update looked cool, though i never got to try them out.
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Sorc or Wizard for a lich gish?
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>>3488685
I prefer wizard since you still want to advance spell levels quickly for your good self buffs and divination specialist still gets nice abilities.

Sorcerer can get some useful feats from his bloodline and CHA can be useful for some gish builds (though not for standard 10 EK levels) and since you go mostly for good buffs, the limited spell selection does not hinder you.
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>>3488449
cool
finally an archetype for dark souls dual wielding collosal unga bunga
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>>3488465
>advanced rogue talents get shared
That might actually be too powerful.
Crippling Strike, Wearying Strike, Dispelling Attack, Opportunist bypass every resistance the opponents have. You would just break the game if you handed this stuff to a whole party of martial classes.

Keep in mind they have to balance these classes for usage in lower level games like Kingmaker in the future.
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>Barbarian is still alignment restricted while bloodrager isn't
What reason is there for Barbarian to exist when Primalist Bloodrager exists? Bloodrager is just everything good about Barbarian, but with better effects and spellcasting
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>>3489519
Archetypes. Primalist is better than the base Barbarian in every way.
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>>3489519
>>3489523
Bloodrager looks good on paper.
But in the real world the Barb gets the fun toys faster.
Barb gets greater beast totem at level 10.
Bloodrager gets greater beast totem at level 12. 2 levels behind. In the real world tabletop game that means you're 1-3 months behind the Barbarian player.
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>>3489519
Instinctual Warrior is a great chaotic monk, Mad Dog is a better pet Archetype than the Bloodrager one, non primalist bloodrager is not as good a multiclass/mostly pure melee due to not having pounce and stances(the benefits of their rage and bloodline abilities is just not as good and most buffs are easily covered by other classes)
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>>3489525
>In the real world tabletop game that means you're 1-3 months behind the Barbarian player.
That's insane. Just goes to show how different the video game medium can change how classes play
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>>3489530
Flat terrain and no verticality, prebuffs, 6 man team to cover everything etc changes value of class a lot.
Monk and fighter are just above npc classes, dip or pure in tabletop. In the game, you get extreme value.
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>>3489530
One of the Paizo game designers played WotR on livestream. I can't remember precisely what the chat said, maybe something like "play bloodrager! why not bloodrager?"
And he was like "no...nah that's a nonsense classm the Barb is better" Or something like that.
I was like "wat" Then I thought about it a little harder, and sure enough, those classes have little traps like this build into them.

Very subtle differences but huge impact.
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>>3489534
They are on the same ballpark , really.
You have the cream of the crop with the best lv9 casters (aka prepared), then the full spontaneous casters, than all 6th level casters, and then the martials/4th level casters who have a couple really good points to free up shit from the rest of the team.
Then you have class that do one thinmg well and not necessarily better (fighter, monk, rogue etc)
Barb barely hangs in there due to rage powers (but barb before unchained was far worse).
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Bloodrager is the only melee class capable of becoming a Dragon Disciple, and thus accessing the
> +2 AC
> +4 STR
> extra breath weapon usage
that comes with that
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>>3489537
>+4 STR
It's only worth +2 or +3 because you lose 1 BAB at level 1.
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>>3489537
Isn't the Dragon bite the most useful of those extra?
It's like a +1 attack per round.
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>>3489552
Now that bite stacking is gone, you get it from elsewhere
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>>3489552
yes
I forgot to list it
all the more reason to want 4 levels of Dragon Disciple if you're a melee frontliner
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>>3489554
>Now that bite stacking is gone
Holy shit, it really is gone. I could have sworn the Dragon Disciple added at least 2 or 3 bites if you maxed out the class back in Kingmaker.
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>>3489562
It's 1 from DD, 1 from tiefling Qlippoth, 1 from feral mutagen.
In wrath you also had oracle curse, kitsune bite and you could get bloodrager bite. Plus natural attack from mythic rank demon. And there was a bug where DD gave an extra bite.

Now you need distinct natural attacks to stack them
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>>3489537
Wait, does natural armor even stack? Logically it should stack since natural armor is stuff like thick skin, scales, fur, etc though Pathfinder is really shitty and autistic when it comes to AC stacking so I can't be sure.
>nooooo you don't get it! your shield and the shield spell might be blocking different things, but that doesn't mean you have two shields! THE AC DOESN'T STACK!!! SHUT UP!
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>>3489597
It's the difference between natural armor and natural armor enhancement.
The former stacks with itself (or used to, I think it was fixed), they stack with each other because they are distinct
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>>3489540
every little bit of STR matters if your using the mythic feat for STR into AC
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>>3479653
I really hope this is the end of Owlcats collaboration with Pathfinder once and for all, just about ANY other fantasy setting would be better, hell, I'd rather see them invent their own than continue using the disgusting garbage that is PF. Easily the worst tabletop fantasy world I've ever seen.
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>>3489770
Yeah but I do like the ruleset.
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I'm hoping for another Owlcat PF game just so they can build off the progress they made with KM and WotR
>all classes introduced in previous games carry over
>visual improvements carry over
>lessons learned about the background side-games carry over (kingdom management is improved in WotR over KM)
I heard there's one campaign that's basically the Oregon Trail, but the destination is China
Jade something
that sounded good
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>>3490076
Jade Regent
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>>3489646
>mythic feat for STR into AC
which one?
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>>3490085
heavy armor avoidance
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Zaccharius is a cunt, but I respect him completely.
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>>3490076
they haven't learned the one thing they need to learn
adding filler trash fights every 5 feet doesn't make the game fun
and also, epic level gameplay is terrible and no one thinks stacking twenty different things to make your tohit/AC big is interesting

It annoys me because the roleplaying aspects of their games are good, but they're so fucking numbers obsessed, it ruins it every time.
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>>3490088
>While wearing heavy armor, you add half your Strength bonus to your AC instead of your Dexterity bonus
oh yeah, this is strong as fuck. time to make a true tank
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>>3490099
Monk dip pajamas with archmage armor are still better
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>>3490095
It doesnt make the game unfun either. You usually win those fights in like 5-10 seconds. The point is to make you feel like your taking on an army before you get to the actual serious fights. By late game you should be able to walk through any trash fight especially since you can play in real time. If it was only turn based I might agree. Like the endgame of Baldurs gate 3 was so fucking tedious and trash in the city with that one battle taking like an hour to finish just because everyone takes turns.
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>>3490100
don't care, heavy armor is cooler
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>>3490076
>oregon trail
NO

Owlcat has demonstrated over and over that their best shit is made when they are constrained to a single location. Act 4 in WoTR is the most thematic and interesting, same for Act 3 in Rogue Trader.
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>>3489901
If Owlcat continue to collaborate with PF they would almost certainly move other to PF2E, though, so even that would not be the same.

>>3490095
The second part of what you mentioned is not Owlcats fault so much as it is the fault of the PF system itself. Which works fine on tabletop since a player can just say "I cast my buffs" and it's done and cast in a few seconds, rather than having to manually click spell after spell and stack them up. They either need to abandon the PF system altogether, or streamline it significantly for it to work in video game format.
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>>3490367
What are the main changes between 1E and 2E?
tell me they overhaul the AC system please...
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>>3490382
There are a ton of changes. The biggest things they did were to completely overhaul the action economy and the class system. I personally think it's a much better game. Oh, and one criticism it has heavily received is that it completely shifted the balance around so that martials are as strong or stronger than casters in the new system, so depending on where you fall on that divide tends to heavily color your perception on PF2E as a whole. There are caster players that outright hate it and refuse to play due to it, and vice versa for martial players that will never go back to 1E after playing 2E.
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>>3490415
I am angry as an Alchemist enthusiast/.
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I'm fearful for the future of Slayer class and Rogue class.
If the Inciter can just hand out Opportunist, Dispelling strike, and Double Debilitation as if it's free candy, then... what's the point of the Rogue anymore?
And the Slayer becomes pointless, by be a Fighter or Monk instead, the Inciter will give your fighter all the good stuff your Slayer used to have.
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>>3490493
What's the point of barbs and primalist with Skalds?
As for slayer, you still have study target that stacks with everything for AB, talent tree to get feats online faster and Quarry.
I'd rather have normal skald for pounce or lethal stance than Inciter as well
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>>3490498
>What's the point of barbs and primalist with Skalds?
The entire Skald branch is literally a menace! We need to exterminate this class before it grows like a tumor!
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i never play skald because it means being a support bitch. it's a bitch class.
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>>3490493
Who cares? Most of the classes are useless and they're outclassed something else.
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>>3490505
You can convert Seelah into one easily. I did that for my Paladin run
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>>3490506
>useless
Well I wouldn't really say that. They are supposed to be there for variety, so like years into the future you can opt to play Mutt warrior for the 20th time, or you can try something new you haven't tried before.
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>>3490507
The only classes I would call overall pointless cause their features can be done bette byothers and they have almost no unique gimmick worth focusing are rogue and warpriest.
Every other class is either really strong in general or have a couple very good archetypes
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>>3490509
>rogue and warpriest
At the end of the day, they can still justify their existence through the idea of roleplaying. So it's not so bad.
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>>3490512
Sure, everything can.
And they are technically still viable(up to hard at least, that was my warpriest run).

Rogue is the one class that was trash in the tabletop AND was not elevated value wise in the game(compare it to fighter and monk) and Warpiest's strengths matter much less.
I wish they had mythic support for blessings liek domains, they are already nerfed effects.
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>>3490520
In Kingmaker everybody praised NokNok for being badass, so it's probably not that bad in a more normal campaign setting.
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>Pathfinder has gotten like 2 DLCs since Rogue Trader release
>RT has gotten 0
Did RT flop or what?
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>>3490521
Many people are casuals or did not play in a difficulty that matters, it's also because he has better stats than you can get due to race.
Even in kingmaker, rogue was either a dip or a multiclass release
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>>3490524
Lord of nothing was released before RT.
RT has a season pass and 2 DLC are already planned. First is out in summer.
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>>3490524
If you actually bothered to look it up you would know the game already has two DLCs announced, both of them companions and no side campaign garbage
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>>3490415
Lol awesome I exclusively play pure martials or gishes
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>>3490530
>no side campaign
inquisitorbros...
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Best weapon to specialize in for a 2H Fighter? I'm feeling like doing a weapon centric playthrough. I typically do magic, so I really don't know the weapon drops as well.
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>>3490877
I had a lot of fun with a merc who was a human pure class two handed fighter specced for fauchards. Cast enlarge on them and lean into the reach. Take all of the feats.

Aside from that, a pure plain paladin with the mod to turn Radiance into a greatsword was cool too. Feat starved though.
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>>3490882
Are fauchards the way to go for reach 2 handers? I'm planning on going Fighter, so I'll be able to invest heavily in one weapon.
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>>3490877
Gravesinger. 11-20 Crit range.
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>>3490901
Rather than focusing on reach it is trivial to be Large at all times since the spell is level 1, enduring buffs, abundant casting, wands of it are cheap, and potions are even cheaper.
Using a Masterwork Cold Iron of whatever weapon you want in conjunction with the spell Magic Weapon and later Greater Magic Weapon will help you till you find the good shit
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>>3490901
Fauchards are definitely good. I would pick whatever you think is cool and fun, though. Choose based on what fits your thematic roleplaying concept. There's also the sentient weapon you can have turn into whatever you want, to patch holes in the itemization if there's a gap before you get a sweet upgrade.
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>>3490994
Hell it even bypasses demon's DR so it's just tits all around even when it's stuck at +1. I usually give it to Lann for the first part of the game since he starts with more attacks then they give you some really good bows pretty quick
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Which races have the most reactivity? I assume it's something like Tiefling or Aasimar
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>>3491670
*laughs in all human custom party*
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>>3491670
Dwarf
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>>3479653
With the excellent mod support this game receives, perhaps I'll replay it after I pirate this DLC.
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>>3491670
>I assume it's something like Tiefling or Aasimar
yeah
https://www.reddit.com/r/Pathfinder_Kingmaker/comments/ugf0ul/character_reactivity_spoilers/
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>>3491722
Do you mute the voices to play with this?
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>>3491725
No, all the audio is changed. You can read through all the changes here if you're interested:
https://rpghq.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=2191-wokeless-wrath-1-0-pathfinder-wrath-of-the-righteous
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>>3490415
> overhaul the action economy and the class
Not for the better.
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>>3491729
Wow, they really went above and beyond with that then. Guess they used AI?
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>>3491722
>>3491729
>AI sloppa portraits
Looks awful, at least post the Sosiel and Trever ones that are just a head swap
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>>3491732
PF2E is a superior combat system in every way to PF1E. Cope, casterfag.
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>>3490095
>roleplaying aspects
Are often ruined by their number stacking autism especially in the late game.The Gallu in Threshold are stronger than Deskari and Baphomet.Or those crystal in the mine with higher save dc‘s than a demon lord.
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>>3491736
There is no reason to continue to reject AI art, it is the future. Even artists that still manually draw to a point will use AI to assist and streamline their process.
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>>3491722
>angry about nogs in Wrath
Wrath is perfect setting for multiculturalism tho. Mendev itself may be "euro inspired state" but it is held by volunteer crusaders who come from entire world to fight demons. So having weird ethnic mix of immigrant soldiers/adventurers (and their descendants in over 100 year war) makes sense.
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>>3491749
The game looks better with this mod though so who cares about all of that bullshit you just typed out?
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>>3491742
Hopefully it'll actually look better in this future. It's so easily to spot right now.
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>>3491742
The dark skin there looked more like a texture problem. Like it wasn't loading colours right.
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>>3491752
Nope other Anon is right. This is literally whitewashing tier propaganda BS. The whole continent is helping the crusade.
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>>3491752
>Regill has purple hair
>This makes him a danger hair
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>>3491755
The other anon is right in that the darker skin tones and weird hair just don't look good though.
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>>3491760
The default looked good enough to me.
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>>3491759
True, he would look much better with white hair.
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>>3491755
There's nothing wrong with whitewashing in a mod, if you don't like it, just don't use the mod. Simple.
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>>3491761
No, the contrast and shadows look bad with the slew of hair/skin colors they used. People look washed out or unfinished or garish because it's all just randomly applied.
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>>3491769
Just means they are well camouflaged for war. The crusade is not a beauty pageant.
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>>3491749
How come they all wear the same kind of clothes? Where's the fashion diversity?
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>>3491780
>Why are weapons and armor mass produced?? REEEEEEEE
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>>3491779
Neon hair glows in the moonlight. I know where I'd aim, if I were a demonic grunt.
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>>3491784
Just give him a hat, problem solved.
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>>3491783
So they all shop at Golarion's magical version of Costco, wearing clothes produced by sweatshops? So much for multiculturalism.
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>>3491786
So their hair is a problem. Racist.
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>>3491787
>Golarion
No, Mendev, if you join Mendev's army you'll obviously have to adapt to their tactics and their gear, that goes without saying
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>>3491787
You can bring your own gear to the crusade if you don't want standard issued stuff.
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>>3491788
You're the problem, faggot.
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>>3491789
So even the peasants get uniforms? The milk maid look or tunic and trousers is strategically important?
>>3491790
Yet no one did and they all were the exact same clothes. Strange.
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>>3491792
I accept your concession.
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>>3491793
>Yet no one did
Seelah brought her own gear for example.
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>>3491795
The only thing you are accepting is your own faggotry.
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>>3491797
Seelah stole her own gear, you mean.
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>>3491802
She is a redhead now, so that probably happened.
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>>3491797
The exception proves the rule.
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>>3491806
what are the crime statistics for gingers?
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>>3491822
I think almost all of the joinable characters brought their own gear.
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>>3491729
>I only got as far as the Prologue before deciding to make this mod
What are the chances Seelah's AI voice reverts to nigga after Kenabres? Dude hasn't even seen Sosiel yet, let alone the concentrated cringe of the azata path
I respect the intent but that is a staggering lack of info to work with. There's no way this isn't a buggy and/or inconsistent mess.
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>>3491826
Yet the pictures above are showing a crowd of NPCs wearing the exact same clothes when they are supposed to be from all over Golarion.
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>>3491830
But those are not the joinable ones I was talking about. Faggot.
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>>3491823
They used to be responsible for 100% of all crime in Ireland. Thankfully, after getting culturally enriched they have become more civilized and are now responsible for less crime. Multiculturalism is good for your race, checkmate, chuds.
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>>3491832
Where was I initially talking about only the joinable NPCs, anon? Your retarded ass couldn't follow the conversation even after I kept trying to lead you back to it. Bitch.
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>>3491833
trying too hard, kiddo. a good joke shows restraint.
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>>3491836
You said there was only one exception, and I pointed out you are a faggot bitch who is wrong.
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>>3491840
Wow, a few characters out of dozens and dozens means they aren't exceptions? Please, stop. I'm getting secondhand embarrassment for you. You just aren't good at this.
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>>3491844
Thanks for admitting you keep moving the goalpost retard.
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>>3491845
I responded to this >>3491749 with this >>3491780.
You moved the goalposts into companions when I was obviously talking about NPCs. Even your baby-tier gaslighting is bad.
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>>3491849
Nope, you were bein retarded and claimed people shop in the same place. Apparently you're too stupid to understand some of them are being issued their gear.
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>>3491749
>Ummm, ackshully black samurais are historically accurate, chud
I'm just so tired of people like you and what you're peddling.
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>>3492103
What history are you referencing, anon?
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>>3492197

I think he's talking about Yasuke, the so-called black "samurai" (he was not) being used and abused as a character lately (I heard latest AC is indulging into this).
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>>3491858
>claimed people shop in the same place
Claim? It's in the game
>>3491742
>>3491752
Mass produced clothing from gnome-owned sweatshops. Multiculturalism is apparently merely muddy skin tones and rainbow hair, good ol' McCulture for consumerist cattle.
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>>3492221
I know you're retarde, but have you ever wondered why everybody in your military wear the same uniform?
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>>3492103
Your 2 digit IQ is showing itself, chudlard.
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>>3492226
Anon, those are peasants...
This bit you have of pretending to be an idiot is getting stale. At least have some pride in your shitposting.
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>>3492229
What so you call a peasant in the frontline? A soldier.
What's wrong with soldiers wearing their uniform, retard? Maybe you can save your dying race by answering this mystery.
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>>3491752
>>3491742
why do we get /v/ fags here? go away man
noone is obsessed with niggers as you and /pol/
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>>3491729
>that forum link
>filled with brown people saying congrats
my sides
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>>3492230
A civilian is not a soldier. Those are not uniforms.
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>>3492233
I think these are codexers, judging by the posted link.
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>>3492237
What do you think a crusade is, retard?
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>>3492239
It's just not any fun if you aren't going to try, bro.
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>>3492240
I can feel the white race being saved any time now, with this powerful intellect of yours, the possibilities are endless.
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>>3492241
I don't believe in the "white race", anon. Lumping myself in with lesser castes because they happen to share my skin tone isn't my style. Tell me, do you always use gifs of women laughing as a stand in for your inability to affect anyone with your actual words?
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>>3492243
>I don't believe in the "white race"
Sure thing loser, you just want to mod out everything that isn't white supremacist in your retarded hobbies. For no reason at all.
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>>3492243
>unironically uses the term caste
my sides
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>>3492246
No, I was mocking that mod for using AI and would never bother to use it, I just think the crowd actually does look better, objectively speaking, with the mod, and that the excuse of multiculturalism due to the crusade falls apart when they didn't bother to model varying cultural apparel. Did you make it and you are baiting for a reaction? Sorry, it seems very mid.
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>>3492249
>uses the term unironically
Shudra detected :)
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>>3492251
>varying cultural apparel
Why does a crusade need varying cultural apparel?
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>>3492253
Why wouldn't people from all over dress in their native clothing when off-duty? Is everyone an off duty soldier? Are there no civilians and townsfolk looking to support the crusade logistically? You seem very very dim.
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>>3492246
>your retarded hobbies
wait, why are you here if you don't like video games?
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>>3492261
They put on their standard issued armor because they are in the frontline of a crusade. Not off duty.
Again, your amazing intellect keeps reaering its ugly head. The future is so bright for this aryan race you're fighting for.
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>>3492264
Who says I don't like video games, retard?
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>>3492252
was that an attempt at a no u? i can't with you election tourists
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>>3492265
>a dress is armour
lol
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>>3492267
>was that an attempt at a no u?
No.
>i can't
I can tell.
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>>3492266
you did. when you say "your retarded hobbies" that means you think this hobby is retarded. english is hard, i know.
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Lots of posts in the last 12 hours, did they reveal the next archetype batch...Oh.
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>>3492271
>that means you think this hobby is retarded
You can like a hobby, and still acknowledge that it is a retarded thing.
For example lots of retarded white supremacists are wasting away their lives when they should be on the frontline to save their aryan race.
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>>3492268
I was referring to the men when I tried to explain why their armor look the same.
But I guess you just weren't clever enough to comprehend that much.
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>>3492274
>You can like a hobby, and still acknowledge that it is a retarded thing.
What? I like video games, I'm happy to play them. Do you also hate yourself or something?
>I was referring to the men when I tried to explain why their armor look the same.
Wait, you still haven't realized I wasn't talking about armour? Do you not know what "clothing" is?
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>>3492281
Yeah I noticed you're hiding your argument behind those women. But you still failed to notice each of their clothes have small variations to them.

>What? I like video games,
But you're failing to admit you're wasting your life away while your aryan race needs you at the frontline. Maybe it's just a nuance that requires more IQ than the unfortunate amount you have?
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>>3492284
>Yeah I noticed you're hiding your argument behind those women.
lol, I got to you with that earlier. See how cutting it is when you use your brain to mock someone and not just use canned memes or insults?
>each of their clothes have small variations to them.
AHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>your aryan race needs you at the frontline
Sorry, man, this is gibberish to me. Do you mean Twitter or something? Is this all based on some ongoing /pol/shit meme?

This is too stupid, lol.
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>>3492288
>lol,
It's okay, I know you're seething because that fake laugh.
You're one of those losers who have lost everything, and now you're seething everytime you see brown people on your computer monitor.
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>>3492289
Anon, a kid like you shouldn't be posting here. It's obviously bad for your mental health.
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>>3492295
This has been nothing but loss after loss for you. /pol/ isn't sending their best.
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>>3492236
Literally every brownoid in the world wants to be white, it checks out.
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>>3479681
Take your time and wait october, at least. Those lazy fucks will never work in the summer.
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>>3488466
This once i saw a guy wielding two halbeards, don't remember honestly where i saw it, but it was cool as fuck.
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Can i do claw + single handed weapon now?
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>>3492344
Midnight isles was released on Summer.
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>>3492354
Yeah but it was a low effort roguelite with random asset swapped around, not that much of a work.
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What are their next 2 games? Cuckold country club and cosmopolitan clowns?
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>>3492357
Beneath stolen lands was low effort. This was more mid. Honestly, Masks greater effort seems to be more about the voice acting than anything
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>>3492358
They don't want to tell us. They only thing they have said is 4 projects ongoing.
Without even defining what is a project.
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>>3490524
They had to patch the base game too during these months



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