Realistically speaking, how many chances are there that Xenosaga will get a proper reboot, even just a spiritual one?Being truncated at Ep.III was one of the hugest losses for jrpgs, shit was even more ambitious than Xenogears.
>>3544227Zero. "Future Awaits" lays it out. What comes next will be new but will encompass everything that happened before. I expect we'll get a spiritual sequel to X the remnants of the Galactic Federation trying to settle Lost Jerusalem/reunited Earth and interacting with the zany blade species.
>>3544227Probably none. Monolith Soft has moved on and has enjoyed way bigger success because of it.
>>3544236>Monolith Soft has moved onAnon Blade 3's finale DLC confirmed that Saga and Blade are canon to each other. They show that Vector industries existed on pre-Klaus'd Earth and that Yuriev and the Salvators (mistranslated as Saviorites) were the ones trying to steal the Zohar/Conduit from the feddies.
>>3544227same as Xenogears
>>3544227But Cosmos already arrived before Xenoblade 2. That light must be the Elsa with Shion and Allen on it.
>>3544485>But Cosmos already arrived before Xenoblade 2Not the same KOS-MOS.
>>3544236Yeah Future Redeemed has definitely indicated they moved on by directly making elements of Xenosaga canon
>>3544227>was even more ambitious than Xenogears.hahaha, no. xenosaga already was the reboot, why do you want a reboot of a reboot?
To be honest xeno saga kinda sucked. Kos Mos deserved a better game series
honestly if i want to get into xeno, should I start at gears or saga? or blade?i've tried gears but the text is braindead slow and the gameplay is confusing.
>>3544679Production order everytime you inbred sheep shagger
>>3544679Release order. Gears is actually incredibly simple gameplay wise, you'll get it as you go on.Trust me, you'll be happy you did it this way. >>3544533>xenosaga already was the rebootNot really, there is extremely little in Saga that isn't PW compliant. End game of XS3 beginning of XG requires one moving part>Abraxas/Michtam gets poofed>OMEGA/Zohar/Abel found by Eldridge>Gears starts
>>3544766fine.>>3544764eh i like hikaru midokawa but jesus fuck that text speed, also apparently I fucked myself up because i didn't use certain button combinations in the combat section and now im fucked? how the hell was I suppose to know that
>>3544774>also apparently I fucked myself up because i didn't use certain button combinations in the combat section and now im fucked? how the hell was I suppose to know thatGame came with a manual. That said I do think death blows are bullshit. Depending on where you are in the game you can just pop an item on and grind them out.
>>3544778well we don't really use a manual now do we in this day and age kek lol
>>3544679>text is braindead slowread it as if the characters are speaking it. now the text speed is perfect and the cut-scenes are more coherent.
>>3544789this isn't the flex you think it is.
>>3544794bruh what is this a cinematic indie game? i can read faster than i can hear i probably have a way faster reading speed then most people on the internet>>3544795it wasn't a flex it's an observation. the statement above is a flex.
>>3544797well, it sounds like your zoomie mind can't handle xenogears. best to just skip it then and go play some other game.
>>3544810i'm actually a millenial. what are you?
>>3544789>well we don't really use a manual now do we in this day and ageYou're not playing a game from this day and age.
>>3544236>monolithsoft has moved on
>>3544679Gears and Blade 1 are the best starting points
>>3544945It's a reference. Nothing more.
>>3544227>more ambitious its literally just the promised prequel to xenogears with anything requiring licensing removed. Blade is still a continuation of the story as well. would have been nice to get episode 6 though >>3544679gears. its easily the best in the series on all fronts, unless youre a moefag, in which case you should start with xenokys
>>3544969Actually delusional if you think it's just a reference.
Xeno a shit.
>>3544987every time theres a xeno thread theres always one anon that spends the entire thread seething because he got filtered by gears
>never got into saga or gears or bladeFor me? Baten Kaitos.
>>3544227No chance. Monolith make offline MMOs for incels now.
>>3544987What the hell does the "Minos Authority" have anything to do with the Yuriev of Xenosaga?
>>3544774>tfw Xenogears was so bad Greenrivers completely forgot he voiced Fei>>3544987Anon ffs, do you really think Omega Universitas is actually Weltall-Id and that XB2 KOS-MOS and TE-LOS are anything but fanservice? Seriously son, get a grip and stop browing /x/
>>3545462The Minos Authority is one of the groups that control the space elevators. The real connection is the "Saviorite Civil Rights bill" being discussed. The Saviorites are a mistranslation of Saga's Salvators - the faction consisting of/pushing designer children. Either there have been multiple Yurievs (possible) or Blade retconned Yuriev's body-hopping enabling UMN jump (and exposure to U-DO) to take place on Old Jerusalem/Earth.
>>3545513On the other hand, the Omega we see in Saga 3 is literally Deus.
>>3545176He's not the original.
>>3545513>XB2 KOS-MOS and TE-LOSNo one is talking about this though, and since KOS MOS is in the ending of Future Redeemed we have to assume that was all non canon anyway. We're discussing the radio and Klaus world
>>3545462Minos is one of three space elevators in the xenoblade games that went around the equator of Earth. The other two obviously being Rhadamanthus and Aeacus
>>3544533>xenosaga already was the rebootWrong. If anything it was a distant prequel
>>3546683nope, he's right. saga 1-3 (and pied piper/missing year) are reimaginings of XG episode 1
>>3546723>XG episode 1Ah yes, the one paragraph that exists in in PW. Totally a "reimagining" and not an elaboration.
>>3546729In context, yes. Vector is "The Company". Takahashi admitted it that 'Saga was an attempt to start from the beginning.
>>3546729yes, XG was already planned out from 1-5
>>3546825When it was called Project Noah.
>>3544774a group of fans are working on a "perfect works" build I used to play the game that includes fast text, an undub and a retranslation of large parts of the script (sorry honeywood)
>>35442270 (zero). Xenosaga HD collection could happen though, maybe one day.Next Xenoblade may have some nods to Saga, and maybe X, if the game happens. At most it'll probably be the "same, but different" multiverse bs where we'll see name drops/familiar designs, especially if they bring in the old humans that were in deep space.
>Aftermath: she turned from pure maiden into an omnipotent, enlightened 10K years old town bicycle
>xenosaga>rebootonly if you can rape the sluts
i wish xeno- were a collection of wacky mindfuck novels i could read
>>3544227Zero. Xenoblade is the new one and I don't like it one bit.The world is not interesting, there is no space travel, no space ships, more of a crappy awkward anime tone and aesthetic (especially 2), the open worlds are boring as hell, etc.I don't care if we don't get more Xenosaga. But I would like something Xeno related that isn't blade. Like a new series or even just a single game.
>>3556952space travel is barely an aspect of xenosaga, nevermind its level design being a lot more boring than blade and even gears
>>3557134It's the same deal in Star Ocean. If you have a space setting with spaceships but you're only stuck on 1 planet for 95% of the game it just sucks.So few RPGs involve spaceships, space travel, traveling to multiple planets so we need more of them. Not being stuck on the same old forest planet.To make matters worse, in Xenoblade you're effectively stuck on the same "planet" that looks way too similar.
>>3557134>space travel is barely an aspect of xenosaga>80% of the game is spent on spaceships
>>3544227>reboot/spiritual onenot likely, anything with saga will be repurposed if it comes back just like how gears's stuff was repurposed for saga>>3557147Xenoblade areas don't look similar, especially not 1/2. 3 has all its areas assblasted by war so a lot of it looks like blown up shit>>3557428The traveling part is done all in cutscenes and most of those space ships are less ships and more megastructures
>>3557147Phantasy Star IV, Rogue Galaxy, and Infinite Space were three sci fi rpgs that stayed sci fi the whole way I think
>>3544227Gears was as ambitious as it get and Saga was a continuation of that universe (more of a prequel) instead. We never got a remake or "remake" (a la FF7), the "reboot" was blade and it was okay but not as gritty as it could have been. Side note -I fucking miss the deathblow system and how it filters retards.
>>3557469>space ships are less ships and more megastructuresWhat exactly is the difference or problem with this exactly? My favorite parts of Xenosaga were exploring the nooks and crannies of all the spaceships/stations in the game, and I honestly think they had a really good interior design and aesthetic. I do wish you could actually control a space ship in battle maybe(you can already control mechs though so there would be system bloat) but there's absolutely ZERO shortage of really stellar looking scifi structures and spaceships in the game, there are even cool space battles in some of the cutscenes. I mean even mass effect doesn't really have a spaceship combat system it's just all thematic. >>3557478Xenosaga also is 100% scifi the entire way, even the reality-bending stuff could just be compared to a weird Star Trek episode.
Also revisiting old areas is kind of explained away by the party basically entering a holodeck-style recreation of a place they've been which is pretty clever.
when the worlds merge do they just cease existing?
>>3557626People's data in Origin rebirths them from what we know so far>>3557147Xenoblade's areas are far more varied than the hallways of Xenosaga breh, 3 was the one that actually started to give more of a shit about environments and you can see that carry over to the blade games
>>3559671>Xenoblade's areas are far more varied than the hallways of Xenosaga brehAny idea how many times I've ran across generic rocky areas or grasslands in RPGs? I'll take space sci-fi with spaceships and other planets every single time.
>>3559691>I'll take space sci-fi with spaceships and other planets every single time.except these areas largely consist of samey metallic hallways. When xenoblade commits to sci-fi areas, they're more extravagant than those in saga, you can compare Origin in XC3 or literally any area in XCX to those of saga and see the difference >generic rocky areas or grasslands in RPGsMakes up a small part of the games
>>3559729I have played XB1 and XB2. All areas were the blandest most generic stuff you can find. If you love generic grasslands, generic caves, generic brown temples, generic forests, generic snowlands, generic ravines and such then by all means.But generic stuff I've seen and played in 10000 times before is not something I'm looking for in sci-fi RPGs, let alone RPGs as a whole.
>>3559739I'd like RPG recs with settings like this please
>>3559739trying too hard
>>3559793How am I trying too hard? By not saying Xenoblade has the most diverse set of environments ever? Tone down the fanboysim.Example, XB1Colony 9, Bionis Leg, Colony 6>brown rock grasslandsTephra Cave, Ether Mine>generic caveSatorl Marsh>slightly less generic, glowing trees and purple waterBionis' Interior>not super generic, but nothing special and been done many timesMakna Forest>generic forestFrontier Village>tree villageEryth Sea>mostly water with floating islandsAlcamoth>standard neo sci-fi city, but in line with prior xeno gamesHigh Entia Tomb>generic temple/dungeonValak Mountain>generic snow areaSword Valley>brown ravine and wallsetc.Stop me if you think any of these are super unique and amazing.
>>3559818Trying way too hard
>>3559818DEFINITELY trying too hard
>>3559729>they're more extravagant than those in sagaYou absolutely need to replay Saga, I legit think you forgot about all the cool ass shit
>>3559818by your standards, everything in xenosaga is either a metallic or rocky hallway. You also ignored the more unique areas like >>3559785 as well as origin which was brought up earlier
>>35598521. Second Miltia looks exactly like a PSO area2. New LA did it better 3. That's one of the better looking areas of Saga 2, most areas in saga (especially saga 1/2) aren't nearly as detailed
>>3559739you can prefer sci fi aesthetics (which blade has too) over fantasy but calling xenoblade's locations generic is ridiculous
>>3559864>Second Miltia looks exactly like a PSO areaThis is a bad thing??? PSO was cool as fuck>New LA did it betterEeeeeehhh, it had some nice verticality >That's one of the better looking areas of Saga 2, most areas in saga (especially saga 1/2) aren't nearly as detailedThere's a lot of detailed areas especially in Saga 3
>>3559838>>3559850>noooo don't say anything remotely bad things about my precious xenoblade games, even if they're factsGod I hate fanboys. Thin skinned and fragile.>>3559855Here's another fanboy.>by your standards, everything in xenosaga is either a metallic or rocky hallwayNice logical fallacy and goalpost moving. Clearly your go-to strat.>You also ignoredOh, like you totally didn't ignore the list I just posted? Fancy that, special rules for you and your logical fallacy loving self.Why did I even bother. Fanboys just shit up this board beyond belief, making even a basic discussion impossible.No don't bother replying, you made it clear you're too biased already fanboy. I'd just be wasting my time.
>>3559870>you can prefer sci fi aesthetics (which blade has too) over fantasy but calling xenoblade's locations generic is ridiculousDo I literally have to post screenshots of every single location because you misremember them? Just so you then can go>no that location is super unique bro, what do you mean you've seen a forest like that in a game before
>>3559872>Nice logical fallacy and goalpost movingmy post was neither of these >Oh, like you totally didn't ignore the list I just posted?you didn't post a list of saga areas to support your argument, you only reductivly attacked blade's areas. That would be like if I dismissed second miltia as generic futuristic sci-fi planet or song of nephilim as generic space station. You again also continue to ignore the more unique areas of the series while likewise cherry picking the best areas out of saga.
>>3559877you're still ignoring this >>3559785>>3559871Saga 3 has the best areas in the series because the art team was getting better and they fully flourished with the xenoblade games, likely bringing in the talent that worked on the baten kaitos titles
>it's guhneric where are the copypasted hallways and static backgrounds?Kek do sagafags really
>>3559912I like space ships AND alien worlds. Not sure why there needs to be some gay rivalry between Saga and Blade
>>3560002I like space ships too but saga's environmental aesthetic didn't get good until 3
>>3544227As a hypothetical imagine that the next Xenoblade game is also a sequel to Xenosaga and it's a big hit, something like 8 million units, top selling JRPG of the generation and revitalizes the genre, Bamco would pull Xenosaga licensing and field their own sequel because they would stand to make significantly more money by doing so, and that's why I think the merging of two different worlds is completely unprecedented and something that you will never see from Monolith Soft.
>>3557478PS IV drifted a bit.
>>3559785Phantasy Star III
>>3560474That's what XCX was supposed to be. Basically Takahashi et al's 3rd attempt at a reboot of the Project Noah concept
>>3560482Yes but not a continuation of it, here's hoping that with the Switch 2 they are able to improve their tools to fully realize an open world JRPG with a fully explorable spherical world.
>>3560481thanks for the rec i'll check it out but a bit odd considering the first area is exactly a generic town and field assuming you're the same person I responded to
>>3560482no it wasn't, XCX's focus is on aleins while saga (and the other xeno games) don't emphasize them.
>>3560496Here's the big secret,Your world is a giant colony ship
>>3560495>>3560497He claimed, now almost 7 years ago in a passing comment on Twitter, that if he does a sequel to XCX, it will take place on the Japanese colony ship in transit as its in evasion to one of the alien fleets.
>>3561174I thought both the Tokyo and Paris ships landed on Mira
>>3561296Tokyo was being pursued, Paris got blasted.
