>>3647384
ZA/UM is amazing in that its probably the only case where both the management AND the devs absolutely shat the bed with everything possible. From Azeri drug money, to corpo greed, to auteur drama, to general cacophany that happens when you work with too many cooks in one kitchen.

>>3647389
Unironic commies can’t into RPGs

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>>3647395
Disco Elysium is one of the most successful rpgs of all time. Objectively. And it outsold PST by a lot.

>>3647400
Weak bait, even by your lowly standards.

>>3647402
It made 7.4 million dollars in the first 6 months. Planescape torment was not even considered a commercial success. You're just wrong. Stop making these awful /pol/ shit threads. The more you make the dumber you look.

>>3647400
>rpg
visual novel*

>>3647405
That’s very interesting. Please, continue.

>>3647384
Commies cannot run a project properly, lol

>>3647410
hes a tranny schizo, end of story

>>3647400
Wrath of the Righteous is one of the most successful rpgs of all time. Objectively. And it outsold PST by a lot.

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>>3647575
WotR sold about 1 million. Disco Elysium is at about 2.6 million. Now what?

>>3647651
And every word of my post remains true. :)

>>3647389
>From Azeri drug money
? does this have to do with margus linnaemae?

>>3647395
But Disco Elysium is great though.

>>3647384
I enjoyed the game and would've given the devs the benefit of the doubt that they could've pulled off a great sequel. However, the little bit I heard of what it was going to be sounded incredibly unappealing. You were supposedly going to play a pregnant woman and the fetus would talk to you as the game's narrator.

>>3648015
>>3647389
Tell me bout Azeri drug money, never heard about that one

>>3648044
>You were supposedly going to play a pregnant woman and the fetus would talk to you as the game's narrator
Might be interesting, bizzare but interesting. Sadly playing as a woman is absolute cancer from start to finish usually

get fucked commies lmao

>>3647405
It’s pretty successful for a point and click adventure game, I’ll give it that

>>3648079
>You were supposedly going to play a pregnant woman

You forgot to add whom the woman was supposed to be. Kurvitz slipped up in one interview.

It was supposed to be Harry's ex, pregnant with her new husband's child.
Yes, the same cold-hearted bitch that aborted her daughter.

I'm glad it fell apart.

I'm always confused about these DE articles ignoring that Kurvitz is the only thing that matters; art direction was great but without him splinters are doomed to fail. We're going to get a bunch of Twin Peaks S2 games that will feel like they were written by AI. Enjoy the age of Breadtube Elysiums.

>>3648334
>It was supposed to be Harry's ex
Wait, now I'm filled with an overwhelming sense of regret that this game will never materialize. Originally I thought it would have nothing to do with the events of the first game.
>Yes, the same cold-hearted bitch
Abort yourself immediately you communard piece of trash. Dora was the only purely innocent and beautiful character in the game's entire roster. She was the ray of light whose presence always lifted you back to your feet, each time the crushing weight of your failure in holding onto her became too much to bear.

>>3648355
FYI it's not a real character, it's a story

>>3648355
>Dora was the only purely innocent and beautiful character in the game's entire roster.

You're either baiting, or a brainless moron who understood nothing of what was said in the game? Even one of Harry's co-workers calls her, literally, a cold-hearted bitch. Absolutely no one ever mentioning her in any capacity - except Harry - says anything good about her.

By the by, do you know WHY Harry is in such a state of delusion that she might come back? Because it happened once before - it's stated twice in the game, by different sources, that she left him once before, and then came back begging for Harry to take her in.

>>3648355
>t. Retard who didn’t see the last scene with the ex on the island

>>3647406
>>rpg
>visual novel*
Narrative rpg

>>3648489
>Narrative rpg
Point and click adventure game*

>>3648358
>>3648368
>>3648392
Players this dull and bitter don't deserve good sequels.

>>3647400
it's a good point and click game

>>3648492
Your mother is point and "click" every mans adventure

>>3648931
How appropriate, you post like a cow.

>>3648492
>>3648580
It's not a good PnC, no interesting puzzles.

>>3648975
It actually is in the sense you have to find your stuff, have to find objects and prerequisites for conversations and to solve the mystery.
Not all point and clicks have "puzzles" necessarily either since most aren't exactly like myst or the room either.

>>3647395
I think the real problem with Commies here is that they are genuinely addicted to arguing with each other. Proto-commies during the French revolution chopped off each other's heads off for being either too radical or not radical enough. Commies during the Paris Commune (1871) split up into 100 different factions and got easily beaten. Spanish Civil War Commies fought each other more than the actual Right-Wing enemies.

ZA/UM however is basically a rerun of the Soviet Union. Basically every Commie is arguing because they all want to be in charge. Meanwhile Stalin/Kompus wiggles himself into a position of power that allows him to slowly purge the party/company and fill it with their own people, basically apolitical sycophants who only care about power/money and do as they're told.

Difference being Stalin found people who could replace all the ones that were purged while Kompus ended up with nothing besides the IP. Of course the purged ZA/UM writers/devs did splinter in like 5 different studios.

>>3649268
socialists and communists are all same shit repeating same shit

>>3649168
if it ain't got puzzles, it ain't pnc.

Why can't they just swallow their pride and work with kurvitz? Your co workers are not your friends. Clearly this recipe works. You ALL need to be together if you want something half as successful as DE
Who cares if you don't like each other.
Are you artists or not

>>3649366
>why can’t communists just swallow their pride and admit they were wrong?

>>3649374
Man knock it off with the dumb politics stuff

>>3649377
>devs thanked marx publicly
>stop da politics!
anon, wake up. these are political prima donna artists who can't agree for longer than it takes to brew a cup of tea. it's over, let it go.

>>3649378
Eh. I don't think that quote means what you think it does

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>>3649268
>>3649377
>>3649388
The game is praised because it promotes Communism.

>>3649388
what do you think my post means?

>>3650117
Cuno doesn't fucking care.

>>3650117
>it promotes communism
But it doesn't, every "socialist" you mention is either a mouthbreathing retard, lazy drunkard, or a corporate hijacking the movement for their own purposes.
And the only true communist you meet is a crazy insane old guy living in a junkyard, eternally seething about the loss in the civil war.

>>3650117
There's no need to promote Communism with a video game nowadays, countless kids are being groomed into it on Discords everywhere. This is more of a lamentation about communism, it's basically a pity party, which commies love.

I can't stand Disco Elysium because it uses unity engine that absolutely rapes my laptop. There is a reason people used to despised unity around 2015.

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>>3650523
>There's no need to promote Communism with a video game nowadays, countless kids are being groomed into it on Discords everywhere.
The game itself isn't revolutionary. It is mostly carried by its aesthetics. It looking a decent product and being praised to high heaven is to make Communism look more popular than it actually is.
>This is more of a lamentation about communism, it's basically a pity party, which commies love.
True but it is presented as the only one trying to fix the world.

>>3650394
And? Vaush is a fat retard. Besides, Moralism is also Communism and it is the "Centrist" option. The alignment system is actually this:
>Communism
Tankie (Materialism)
>Ultraliberalism
Capitalism (Materialism)
>Moralism
Reactionary by Marxist definition (Materialism)
>In Marxist terminology, reactionary is a pejorative adjective denoting people whose ideas might appear to be socialist but, in their opinion, contain elements of feudalism, capitalism, nationalism, fascism, or other characteristics of the ruling class, including usage between conflicting factions of Marxist movements.

>Fascism
Literally everything else.

Feels good not having wasted time on it. As a game it just wasn't good.

>>3650809
>Literally everything else.
Um hello based department?

>>3650595
>absolutely rapes my laptop
Low net worth individual detected.

>>3650809
>Moralism is also Communism
What the fuck

>>3650969
>Has the same goals and theories as Communism
>"Centrist"

>>3651004
>Has the same goals
No

>and theories
No

>>3650825
i really liked it, need to replay it some day

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>>3648355
>Harry this just isn't good for either of us se I'm leaving
>oh noooo Harry I regret what I have done will you please welcome me back? Great I'm glad you are such a forgiving person
>just joking lmao. I met a man who has more money than you so bye bye. Also say goodbye to your child forever lol
The biggest error this game made is not giving me the option to kill or frame this bitch so she rots forever.

>>3651058
the chinese have a good saying: brothers are like arms, wives are like clothes. harry is what you get when you ignore your brothers and obsess over a shirt.

>>3651125
His clothes reveal hidden truths to him.

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i dont want to make another thread for this but i believe the Insulindian Phasmid is an adaptation of the Lord Howe Stick Insect. The largest phasmid species had been living in abundance on an island off the coast of the Australian mainland, to then be wiped off the face of the island by a supply ship carrying a fuckton of european black rats.
These rats had been thought to send the phasmid to extinction, in 1920. Nearly a century later, in 2001, a miracle occurs, with Australian researchers sailing to this ominous rocky outcrop 23 km off the island, and discovered 24 of these phasmids living in an isolated area under a single endemic shrub.
ghosts of the old world manifesting to those with the HOPE to search for them. the phasmid is the key to DE bros

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>>3651386
this is the rock they were found on

>>3651387
Wow it’s literally me

>>3647400
We have different values. If something shit makes money I consider it an even bigger failure because it's a failure of humans on a sociocultural, existential level.

>>3648334
>the same cold-hearted bitch that aborted her daughter
I will never understand the mind of this faggot for writing such a bizarre, inauthentic incel plot point. She did the right thing, why have Harry's child if she's leaving him?
The repercussions of it on Harry make no sense. It wasn't a late term abortion. She didn't trick Harry or torment him. She just said "You're poor, I don't love you, I'm leaving."
This kind of thing happens to men every day and they get over it. It's not a believable catalyst for this alcoholic amnesiac sad clown schlock.

>>3651479
It's easier to understand if you know an alcoholic in real life, they hold onto any bit of pain in order to justify the next drink. It's all about the booze and looking for an excuse for that next drink.

>>3651125
>Brothers are like arms
>Wives are like shirts
So i should let all my bros fuck my wife?
You put your arms into the shirt.

>>3651492
no, it's that if you lose a shirt, you can get a new one easily. if you lose an arm, they don't grow back. love is fleeting, but friendship, brotherhood, can be for life.

>>3648334
Oh.
If thats what the sequel was going to be then maybe its better that it never got to be made.

I inadvertently turned my Harry into a gigachad. I used no cheats whatsoever.
>4/1/1/6 stats with Inland Empire as signature skill
>get Actual Art Degree thought and internalize it by rereading the based HJELMDALLERMANN book
>get Jamais Vu thought
>acquire massive amounts of skill points
>for money just talk to Lena, get her quiz right and sell the green ape pin to Roy in the pawn shop, now repeat that as much as you want (doable on Day 1 only)
>don't have Endurance talk to you about fascism or Revacholian Nationhood thought yet, this is very important, reach the point where you can grab the borscht from the polak chef, get Electrochemistry to 7, and get Goracy's Brew with 5 uses, use it 4 times to get permanent +4 FYS (this will absolutely not work if you have talked to Endurance and opted into fascism), keep 1 for later
>obtain and internalize Revacholian Nationhood only after using the Borscht 4 times, with Goracy's Brew and the other 3 alcohol types you will be able to become gigachad for an additional +8 FYS boost which you get to keep permanently when you forget Revacholian Nationhood
>reach level 4 for Inland Empire and Suggestion, get the -1 logic cap from the pajeet scammer to reduce your logic from 4 to 3, talk to the commie spic and get Boiadero, internalize it, smoke a cigarette for +2 INT, immediately forget that skill to keep that boost forever
>obtain and internalize Cop of the Apocalpyse, talk to Roy and get the Pyrrho drug from him, take it and forget Cop of Apocalypse to keep the +2 PSY boost
>obtain and internalize Long Way Home, get Speed from Cuno's home, take the speed and forget Long Way Home to keep the +1 PSY boost

>>3651592
hey maybe ill stick to your build since i wanter do play inland empire artist for my second run. was always broke ass nigger last tim ei played tho

>>3651927
Running back and forth for 1.35$ felt rather silly. However, I did not take any bribes or beg anyone for money.
I ran into an issue where I couldn't increase the amount of uses for Goracy's Brew despite having 7 Electrochemistry. It worked on my cheated trial run so I don't know what bugged it out. It's still OP as fuck though as you will end up with +10 FYS.
Triggering Boiadeiro is also tricky as you will need to make sure to have low Logic and 4 Inland Empire/Suggestion and follow the correct dialogue path talking to Manana.
I started with MOT at 6 but lower values in favor other stats should work, too. There doesn't seem to be a way to push MOT as well as the other stats.
It feels cool to play though. You start out weak as fuck with no empathy but have good cognition and superhuman senses. The volition and endurance checks are going to be painful at the start.
Apparently you can also have the talking tie if you find a way to get IE to 4 before talking to Garte and grabbing the tie but I haven't tried that and don't want to restart again.
On day 3 you can get Wompty-Dompty for even more exp and money. The minmax guides I've seen all suggest to fast forward to that point for the most optimal exp gain but with the drug abuse that's not really necessary. There is also a glitch for infinite exp but I didn't like that.
Of course, at the end of the day you should just play naturally. I just wanted to push boundaries.

bump

>>3650394
Evrart is a socialist and he's arguably the most cunning and manipulative character in the game. Lizzie and the Hardies are socialists and everyone in town is afraid of them

>>3655603
>Evrart is a socialist and he's arguably the most cunning and manipulative character in the game.
Delete this bigoted post, anti-Semite

>>3651479
It's absolutely believable if you're an already unstable man who works as a cop in a notoriously shitty neighborhood

>>3651479
>killing babies is good
NGMI

>>3655603
>Evrart is a socialist and he's arguably the most cunning and manipulative character in the game.
he also betrays his own people for power, wealth, and is planning to displace people for more of that
>Lizzie and the Hardies are socialists and everyone in town is afraid of them
Maybe in a very loose sense. They're a bunch of people with mob rule in the mind. I don't know if they even talk much about their leanings specifically other than that's just where they fall in life positionally. Really the system they're working with Evart is an end for their means not a means to an end.

>>3647400
Yep this verified gem of a post really triggered the chuds.

>>3648337
>he still thinks Kurvitz wrote most of the dialogue in DE
Do niggas really...