How much choice should you have in an RPG?
>>3647712
>>3647712>You should kill yourself RIGHT NOW
>>3647712If they let you actually berate the character for being non-binary and the character would leave your party you would probably cry about that too so they simply just didnt make that an option.>Let me bully them into being cisNo.
>>3647735>Let me bully them into being cisThis is the way.
>>3647735I think that you should kill yourself.
>>3647735But is coming out stunning and brave if negative consequences are not a possible outcome?
>>3647740Go fuck yourself.
>>3647738Dont cut yourself on all that edge, kid.
>>3647742I'm not joking, I'm not being an edgelord. I think the world will greatly benefit from your death. I think that you should do it.
>Randomly brings up black mens penisesAsk me how i know you're American.
>>364771290s solutions for 21st century problems
>>3647747>I think the world will greatly benefit from your deathDamn, what a compliment. He's that powerful, huh?
>>3647741It´s a legit question though. If there is no possible bad outcome then there is nothing to fear and if there is nothing to fear there is no point in making a big deal out of it. Or i am wrong in assuming facing that fear to rejection is the reason people hesitate to come out?
>>3647771it's cargo cult narratives, racism and homophobia and chauvinism used to be really common in popular culture and some writers used these topics as a crutch to give their narratives weight. now, that times have changed, bad writers are attempting to find ways to also use those crutches they were raised on. this causes cultural stagnation and cognitive dissonance.
>>3647712thank you Molochhow much does this "game" cost anyway kek?
>>3647796Standard Edition - $69.99 ($59.99 on Steam)Deluxe Edition - $89.99 ($79.99 on Steam)
>>3647712BioWare should've provided a choice to detransition a troon and detransitioning should've been her good and best possible ending.
>>3647826This is a mod.
>>3647712I get the impression chuds just want a "dump /pol/ infochart" option. Ironically Disco is the only game that has this and they hate it.
>>3647828not just a mod, it's saerileth, one the worst mods ever made
>>3647829Speak for yourself, I love it. Measurehead and Gary are my heroes.
>>3647828PS:T has even more choices and consequences.
>>3647835pic unrelated
Alpha Protocol is the only game to do the Mass Effect style dialogue right.
>>3647839Thorton having three distinct personalities and switching between them at will, because he's canonically a sociopath, really makes it work. As does the time limit on selecting the response.
>>3647829You kinda lost the plot, huh? All your ranting about /pol/ shit being off-topic and the game includes /pol/ shit done in a way that almost looks like parody.
>>3647841It's his job to be a sociopath, that's just a good work ethic. But it's also that consequences actually follow from your choices, they aren't mere flavour.
>>3647834Gary is "Racist Lorryman" right? what an interesting name
>>3647735You will never be a dragon.
>>3647882No, he's the cryptofascist.
>>3647742>Dont cut yourself on all that edge, kid.Recognising that the world would be a better place if every tranny cut their own throat isn't edgy, it's simply the truth.
>>3647845you're making alpha protocol sound extremely exciting to me just from that descriptionis it worth pirating it to get a feel of the game?
>>3647843Sounds like you are very confused.
>>3647950Yes. Spec into melee, pistols and stealth so that you can ignore the shitty combat and just enjoy the kino plot.
>>3647712>playing EA shit>playing Paradox shit>playing pathfinder company shit>playing Larian shit>playing Bethesda shitJust play games that aren't shit, ignore these flops and you'll have a better time all around
>>3647950Any copy you can find will do because the last official patch, which you can find online, disables the copy protection.
>>3647712>You're in control here
>>3647956That is definitely what those with souls should do.Although 99% of people are soulless golems that do what they're told, and they're told to buy whatever their cult-leaders(streamers, influencers, etc.) tell them to.
>>3647956>Paradoxluv Europa luv Stellaris
>>3647712If I can't create an over sexualized loli or shota then the game is trash.
>>3647712It'd be nice if there was an "I don't care what you want." reply.
>>3648200>maybe try having some empathy for people in painmaybe if you cut your dick off, you'd appreciate what taash goes through on a daily basis
>>3647747lmaooo and posts like this is why people smile when that 41% rate goes upYWNBAW
>>3647776>it's cargo cult narrativesI'd compare it more to the monkeys and the banana because your comparison ignores that the people writing it now weren't the ones writing it before but they were still taught learned behavior by the people writing before.
>>3647712At some point you have to realize that BW is not making games to convert people, they're making games for people who already think the way they do. It's pandering for their side, it's like those tumblr comics that were everywhere back in the day and were only meant for other tumblr people who agree with everything they say to read. I don't even have to name one, you already know what I'm talking about.
>>3647712I'll just leave this here
>>3647712The choice to not play shit woke garbage.
the option to troon out is probably the smallest issue of that garbagewhat truly makes it unplayable is the constant 4th wall breaking preaching
>>3648251That's fine, you can do what you want to your body.Still don't care though. You should respect my feelings, bigot.
>>3647735>berate the character for being non-binary and the character would leave your partyGood, that's the preferred outcome.
>>3647712this is just the tone choices as in DA2. deal with it.
70,000 people playing and I found the main audience. Game must be really redpilled.
>>3648486lol not the least bit surprising
>>3647712HATE TRANSFOLK
Dragon Age: Veilguard will win Game of the Year and sell six gorillion copies
>>3648323I do care about your feelings because I'm not inconsiderate of anyone's feelingsI'll also make sure kids (and hopefully one of them being yours) are as exposed to people like myself so they don't grow up with bigoted thoughts like yourself swirling in their heads>do your worstI'm gonna fuck your kids stop me if you're even capable of leaving your basement
>>3647712Is this actually real?Why even have options at that point?
>>3648491Every person whining about this game and shitting up every space that will tolerate them is a weak and degenerate hypocrite.
>>3648508It's real, and it's not even out of the ordinary in Veilguard. Most of dialogue I've seen are various ways of saying the same thing.
>>3648509Smells like frog in here.
>>3648512nta but you shouldn't be able to whine about veilguard without posting your most recently played games
>>3648486>6/45 peoplewhat point are you trying to make here?
>>3648515That's the first of 47 pages. There's a lot more.
>>3648516>270/2115wow, you sure showed them
>>3648521>25% isn't that much!!lollmao even
>>3648513Ys X sucks. It instantly makes you worse than the top surgery scars.
>>3648513Oh froggy...
Send all /pol/fags and bioturds back to cuckdex where they belong
>>3648522>270 is 25% of 2115roflcopter
>>3648527what's your account name over there?
>>3648524This is the kind of person who constantly says they have nothing to play.
>>3648529Not a fan of veilguard so no reason to use it.
>>3648513
>>3648532have you tried playing an rpg
>>3648531you have more than one account there, don't you?
>>3648534I unironically have zero accounts.
>>3648533yes, i saw one the other day. horrible creatures in it.
>>3648537looks like youre on the wrong board then
>>3648539not at all, i have vast knowledge of rpgs and i like helping people with their questions. i just don't exclusively play rpgs.
>>3648542>i have vast knowledge of rpgsNo you don't, you're here to maintain shitty generals for games you don't play any more.> i just don't exclusively play rpgs.You haven't played a single rpg in over 2 weeks. You shouldn't be here. If you are not actively playing an RPG there is zero reason to be here.
>>3648545incorrect. i've helped many people here with my sage wisdom.>2 whole weeksis that a long time to you?>If you are not actively playing an RPG there is zero reason to be herewhy?
>>3648547>incorrect. i've helped many people here with my sage wisdom.I know 10x more than you do about every RPG you have ever played so you can safely leave.>why?Because this isn't a place for you to hang out, its for discussing RPGs. Join a discord if you want to troubleshoot for retards. Spoonfeeding is wrong to begin with, but that's a whole different can of worms.
>>3648551do you never help anyone? seems like you're too busy being combative and crying about other posters.>Because this isn't a place for you to hang outno.>its for discussing RPGsyes.>Join a discord no.>Spoonfeeding is wrong to begin withyes.
>>3648555>do you never help anyoneNo, I will never help anyone play an rpg. I do not want people to play rpgs who are not naturally interested in them and are too stupid to play them. That's how you get games like dragon age and elder scrolls.
>>3648558well, then you want me here, i can't stand tes or dragon age or the witcher games. problem solved.
>>3648561You play rimworld, you are a retard.
>>3648562why are you arguing with a retard then? lol, you don't value yourself highly.
>>3648566Go be a retard on a board for games you are actually playing.
>>3648569i don't know much about how to be a retard. does it involve crying about anonymous people you have no power over for many hours a day?
>>3648572You'll continue to prove me right and shit up the board. With every post you make I am more and more justified in my behavior.
>>3648574hmm, let's operate from your perspective for a moment, have you heard of the phrase "it takes two to tango"? like, if you are constantly aggressive and just throwing childish insults around, no one is going to feel anything from your digs. you should try actually talking to someone.
It's been quite entertaining watching the decline of Bioware in real time. Drag Age Troonguard will hopefully be what kills the developer.
>>3648578>you should try actually talking to someone.I talk to people that aren't retards. If your perception of me is that of combatant this is an indicator that you are a retard who frequently makes awful posts.
>>3648583this is a good theory you have, but i don't only read the posts you make that are interacting with me.
>>3648583You sound like a redditor. Go back faggot.
>>3647712Dialog choices aren't really true roleplay choices. They're narrative choices. They've already scripted out an entire narrative with pre-recorded cutscenes in this case, and now you get to choose which cutscenes you want to watch. That's not a true roleplay choice.These sorts of discussions are usually really about people getting upset that the animators, directors, writers, and actors didn't record nasty cutscenes. You're free to feel that way and to be as juvenile as you want, but trying to couch it in roleplaying choice and freedom is stupid.True roleplaying choice and freedom is grounded in the fact that you can at least, fundamentally roam around freely and direct your own travel. This means that you're not being told to go a certain way, coerced or forced, and you're not having your free roaming interrupted by cutscenes and scripted events. To the extent that a computer RPG interrupts the game in this way is the extent to which they diminish the fundamental ability to roleplay. However, most people posting and replying to threads like these have already given up on that fundamental building block of roleplay and choice, they don't even consider it. At that point it really is just whining about the narrative and the fact that they don't have all sorts of nasty scenes recorded for them. It's essentially a pornographic debate, but you're saying you don't like gay porn. Cool.
>>3647835>consequences>it doesn't matter which option you pickUh, anon...
>>3647714fpbp
>>3648530I don't say that. You're creating boogeymen.
>>3648783100% correct I will forever remember this replyIf inconsequential dialogue choices are roleplaying that most good RPGs out there would barely qualify.Honestly, this dragon Age game should barely be called an RPG. Ive never played this shit, but having watched some reviews due to this controversy this game is not much different from ffxv and assassins Creed rpg-like entries.
>>3647735>make cringe unappealing character>don't want to keep it around, but the game is reliant on having said character>"you brought it on yourself, we did provide the character for you after all!"I like when shitty design is gaslighted as "realism" and "fact of life". Good game would have and option to provoke them into starting a fight, then promptly getting spread across the pavement by "our team", giving me the enjoyment I paid for while keeping it real
>>3647712I thought the entire point of trans people is that they want to be the opposite sex. So why wouldn't they just select the sex they want to be? Is this proof they don't actually see themselves as what they claim, or is it all just a big victim circle-jerk?
>>3649505You don't get it, when you have only two options its too easy to reach a conclusion that you are not special and your life sucks not because of what bathroom you go to, so you need scratch that bottom of the barrel and keep it vague and not final so you can't be expected to function in a society
>>3649505representation for people who're transitioning but haven't managed to complete the transition> silkworm =/= butterfly> they can't imagine playing an RPG where they aren't playing a self insert dependent upon their current life circumstances > special snowflakehonestly, pick one. end result is them being a part of the 41% anyway
>>3647712None, hopefully this trend of dialogue gay RPGs will end someday.
>>3649505When it comes down to it, they want your disgust. They want you to hate them and to be mad at them for forcing this. Every time you give them more rights, you've been culturally raped by them. It's a corruption fetish, satanic at its core.
>>3649505Ironically enough, this question came up on the official subreddit just yesterday. There's a fair amount of replies.https://old.reddit.com/r/dragonage/comments/1ggydt2/honest_question_from_a_straight_cis_guy_not_meant/
>>3649505>So why wouldn't they just select the sex they want to be?You aren't supposed to self insert or create a power fantasy in RPGs. You are supposed to play a character you are uncomfortable or unfamiliar with. You should never ask "what should I do?", you should ask "what would this character do" otherwise you aren't roleplaying. So the question itself is entirely irrelevant.
>>3649530That's how my BG3 run ended at the end of chapter 2. The only option was to cry "i don't wanna die" and run away, or tell gale to blow himself up and destroy all the evil enemies we had chased. So that's what my berserker dwarf character did. He wouldn't run.Boss defeated, good guy win. Game completed and uninstalled.
>>3649530But isn't selecting your character to be trans more of a self-insert than selecting your preferred sex? These people in real life are trans, not women. So it's actually less of roleplay to select trans.
>>3647886>You will never be a dragon.It is my eternal dismay, I want to be a dragon so much.
>>3649543>ButIt doesn't matter, the question is improperly formatted and irrelevant. If dragon age is gay and trans, which it is and always has been like all bioware IPs, then it makes sense for those options to be there. There is nothing to argue over. Veilguard is for people who want to know what it's like to be a trans ogre and that's it. There's no point in crying about the being a trans ogre game then crying when it's about being a trans ogre.
>>3648784Ravel doesn't care what you pick, you buck broke her and made her head over heels for you. If you pick up on that, and if you do the mebbeth mage quests you get +2 wisdom and +1 intelligence, which will make it easier to get the best ending that requires high wisdom.
>>3647747> I think the world will greatly benefit from your deathnta, but extremely ironic
>>3649519>satanicthe first part is correct. but I can't take you seriously with this shit. you're embarrassing you dumb nigger
>>3649671he means satanic as the 'morning star', the 'illuminated ones' think they are above conventional morality in a corrupted nietzschean pseudo-philosophy where excessive self-consciousness of the tools of control leads to a determination that following your gut is unfettering yourself and hence leads to a nihilistic desire to tear down any constraints. this is itself a tool of control, because with no standards a person is unable to judge and a person lacking judgement can't form an argument or defend themself. i agree that using "satan" carries too many connotations for an atheistic population that doesn't understand that word actually represents a part of humanity and not a demon underground.
>>3649530>You aren't supposed to self insert or create a power fantasy in RPGs>source: your assIt literally exists for you to make choices and adjustments in a situation presented to you, not click "next" in dialogue and sit through cutscenes. That's good for an adventure game, not something with character creator, dialogue options and silent protagonist. It's designers job to make me familiar enough with the circumstances to make choices, the earlier the better. It is also their job to make the premise engaging and supporting cast likeable, not for me to endure the slop with the hope of gaining some higher understanding of life. Saying "it's the creators' vision" as if that makes it immune to criticism is pointless. Putting in the non-cringe option to let me play the character I want to play would be incredibly easy, it wasn't an oversight and it wouldn't make any difference on the budget.
>>3647712Rather few choices that are meaningful,m than a plethora of illusionary choices.
>>3649530RPG fanbase is full of autist with impaired theory of mind who hate thinking from other people perspectives. Most like making their character their self insert because they are too self absorbed to be invested in a different person's story.Source:my projection
>>3649530>You are supposed to play a character you are uncomfortable or unfamiliar with.I disagree with this, unless you mean it isn't possible to be familiar with people who aren't you. Which for autists, may be true, but not for fully functioning people.>You should never ask "what should I do?", you should ask "what would this character do" otherwise you aren't roleplaying.This is absolutely true.
>>3649842You are playing the wrong genre then. You should be playing AAA action adventure movie games. Like veilguard.
3 choices.No more. No less.It's not taste or opinion. All games should have exactly 3. Anything else is an error.
Games shouldn't rely on dialogue choices at all. The reason BG3 was so popular and good is because there are tons of ways to interact with the game beyond dialogue choices. Any game that relies on dialogue is always terrible, new vegas and vtmb are no better than veilguard.
>>3649530>t. self inserts in literally every game as the anime little girl he will never be
>>3649671Incredibly innocuous thing to be bothered by, even as an atheist. Touch grass.
>>3648513Do I have your permission to whine? I pirated the GOG version of Y X, was pleasantly surprised that it recognized my demo saves from the demo on steam
>>3650795>Do I have your permission to whineNo, there's not a single rpg there.
>>3650795>pays premium for an overpriced shitty rom collection that runs worse than the actual roms>pirates a falcom gameplease don't ever post again
>>3650796Dawn of Sorrow is pretty much an ARPG, perhaps to a fault.
>>36477123 choices.
>>3648132"Everyone deserves to be represented in game. Except kids, that makes me uNcOmFoRtAbLe"
>>3652745[Yes][pop-culture reference][No]
>>3648783>True roleplaying choice and freedom is grounded in the fact that you can at least, fundamentally roam around freely and direct your own travel.>but its also a proper RPG at the same time with deep choice and consequence, interactions, dialogues, characters and changing world state based on players decisionsGame like that doesnt exist anon
>>3647776Dunning-Kruger: the post
>>3647712It's never about quantity, but quality. But also that the choices feel meaninful.
>>3648486>cherrypicked handful of examples where if you squint hard enough it lines up with his confirmation biasThis kind of behaviour is why people think you're all retarded.
>>3648508>Is this actually real?Why even have options at that point?A better question is why games this board praises does worse shit, yet gets a free pass.Like Pathfinder outright ignoring your actions in the game and railroading you into only being able to say what the devs want you to.
>>3652983It's all double standards to push a dishonest agenda. Culture wars are just a cudgel to push garbage.
>>3652978>you're allWho?
>>3647712Depends on the team size and skill. Branching the story adds an INSANE amount of work. I'm making an RPG and I can't do branching without the writing depth taking a major hit. I have come up with a decent solution. Instead of hard branching, where the player makes major decisions, you soft branch and let the player control how they present themselves. Let them say or do what they want at the right moments. I find that works best because interactivity and reactivity are more fun than major decisions unless those major decisions are plentiful and well-written.
>>3653002>Branching the story adds an INSANE amount of workNo it doesn't lol, if this is the case your game is too railroad. If you have to construct new rails for every branching action then the game is rotten to the core.
>>3653011It does depending on the scale of the changes, how many, what it impacts and so on.If your branches have little impact, then yes it doesn't add that much work, since at that point it's just a slight variation of a single one.
>>3652922No argument: the post.
>>3653011It's the voice acting.Games like Planescape and Pathfinder are read only so they can go wild.
>>3653002Look at Age of Decadence for inspiration on branching.
>>3650798Retard, the Castlevania Dominus Collection has native PC ports of the games. They're not roms. Falcom doesn't deserve money. They have $100+ of day 1 DLC for games that come out 3 years later in the rest of the world. Fuck off.
>>3653059The definitive versions of the games are objectively their originals. You paid top dollar for bad roms of the most casual reddit genre ever created.
>>3653011Depends on specifics but anything major does add a lot of work unless you keep the story shallow or if you are writing for something linear.>>3653025Pretty much this. For example, originally in my game you could pick the companions you wanted in any order and romance them individually but the issue became writing scenes based on your choices/progression. I'd have to account for who you picked, who you romanced and how far and that would have to apply to all scenes in any order. I like my solution and so far my players enjoy it too. I think being able to express yourself in dialogue is a lot more fun, it creates an engaging scene rather than you watching stuff happen and making some choice on something big.>>3653051I'll check out a playthrough of it. Thanks for the recommendation.
>>3647984>It doesn't matter what we choose. What matters is our build.
>>3653025>It does depending on the scale of the changes, how many, what it impacts and so onNo retard, it doesn't. I can guarantee your game isn't capable of infinite permutations. Any idiot can account for basic deviances in a railroaded story.
>>3653060>most casual reddit genre ever createdOrder of Ecclesia is more difficult than any CRPG ever made.
>>3653237>No retard, it doesn'tPlease talk more about things you know absolutely nothing about. We're all on the edge of our seats watching you flaunt your ignorance.It's clear you have no knowledge of game development or narrative design, so naturally your words hold incredible value for everyone in the thread.
>>3653237> I can guarantee your gameWrong anon you were replying to.>>3653252That anon's point is confusing regardless of experience. Everything is railroaded since you are always forced down a path. The railroading is more of the feeling that the illusion of choice is broken. I sidestep the issue by immersing the player through soft branching/choice. You feel like you are part of the story rather than dictating it. It is possible to feel like you are dictating it through very careful design like fallout NV but that is a tricky one.
>>3649530You are responding to a question that was not asked and making zero sense.If "you are supposed to play a character you are uncomfortable with" then why is there a need for a "trans" option and minority representation in general? Are the minorities uncomfortable being themselves and specifically ask to be included so they can be uncomfortable in RPGs as well? If the point is just being unfamiliar with your character then even most basic and limited character creation will do, you'd just have to adapt.Clearly you're confused.
>>3653002>Branching the story adds an INSANE amount of workAnd isn't worth it. Likely just makes the story worse.Imo it's better to just have different ways of completing the quests, and that doesn't have to impact the story. Get the mcguffin by killing, stealing, bartering, or completing a sidequest. Maybe add some cosmetic results. "Stormcloacks won, now guards are stormcloaks" type results.Reaching too far with branching just increases the likelyhood of a messy unfinished failure
>>3653285>Reaching too far with branching just increases the likelyhood of a messy unfinished failureExactly.> Maybe add some cosmetic results. "Stormcloacks won, now guards are stormcloaks" type results.Yeah, you can pull it off with some well thought out small adds like that.
>>3647826Baldurs Gate are just the fucking worst, filled with nothing but out of place dialogue/npcs/quests and tries to make it like every other basic bitch rpg.Not to mention every dialogue expansion, romance mod makes followers into trauma babies and literal essays of dialogue trying to explain everything like a marvel movie.
>>3647731They should always give the option to...not engage... with the woke shit.
>>3650688>>3649842based posts
>>3647712That type of Railroading = low competenceIf it's railroading out of respect for the project budget. That's okay.If it's railroading out of respect for on-air tv schedule. That's also fine.If it's railroading because the game is a single session and the group will likely never meet each other again, that's also cool.But you just know this railroading is due to nu-Bioware incompetency, it's the worst and most unacceptable of them all.
>>3654111>ignore the very suspicious talking hand sticking out of a suspicious portal>let the elf and gith kill each other>stake the vampire when he tries to bite you>kill the obvious demon for the noble paladinsTo be fair to BG3, they did give you options.
>>3654139>>kill the obvious demon for the noble paladinsFun Facts:Killing Karlach gives you one of the best robes in the game that you can steal from Wyll and is subtly implied to be made OF KarlachNoble Paladins gives you a sword thats a free recharge for the Abjuration Wiz's Spell Ward per short rest.
>>3653060My guy, the collection objectively consists of native PC ports. You're mentally handicapped.
>>3647742What edge?He is right.The world would be a better place without you around.
The fact that you can't even remotely disagree with Traash is the real offender here. I wouldn't mind the presence of this character if you actually had a range of ways to react to him, even contrarian ones, but no, of course not, can't go against the propaganda.
>>3654150>”native PC ports”Lol, lmao
>>3647735>et you actually berate the character for being non-binary and the character would leave your party you would probably crySo, let me get if I understand your brainrot:>Option A: Players don't like the character, want to trash them, the game allows it, character can't leave>Option B: Players don't like the character, want to trash them, the game allows it, character leaves>Option C: Players don't like the character, want to trash them, the game doesn't allow it, character stays So you are saying, that because people may like option A over option B... you are giving them option C?
>>3656207>can't go against the propaganda.This is a video game.If wokeness in games is such a huge issue, you'd figure there'd be an anti-woke game studio listening to you guys and churning out mega-hit after mega-hit where you're allowed to be sexist and homophobic for the whole game.Like, that's capitalism. If there's a gap in the market, it would get filled. Just like your mom's.
>>3656924why do you think sexism and homophobia are the opposite of wokeism? the opposite of wokeism is just natural living with love between a man a woman and men protecting women and children.
>>3656924>you'd figure there'd be an anti-woke game studio listening to you guys and churning out mega-hit after mega-hit where you're allowed to be sexist and homophobic for the whole gameGoes against the ideological state apparatus, though I do think there is some evidence that the American ruling class does want to rollback "wokeness" to some degree in order to make easier to recruit white men into the military in order to fight imperialist wars in the middle east for Israel. But yeah capitalists aren't always solely motivated by short term profits.
>>3647712> fantasy setting has magic system that can conjure everything that a society needs>somehow, being born with gender dysphoria is a thing and you have to chop off skin from your legs to create an artificial cockHow does one that lives in a world like this even understands the concept of trans/non-binary? Anyone that would potencially be born with gender dysphoria would just use some spell that turns their body into a different gender, no need for words or body butchering
>>3647712I can kill or recruit any orc I want in Shadow of Mordor. Much better for choice in RPG terms than whatever is going on here.There are arachnosexual orcs, mechanosexual orcs, pyrosexual orcs, life-challenged orcs, and the Illiterati as depicted here so my orc team is all about Diversity Equity and Inclusion when I lead them into gook hacker towers to blast their cheating yellow hides and take their orc slaves for myself.Yes, Shadow of War is a True RPG, probably the last True RPG.
>>3654139>To be fair to BG3, they did give you options.This is in fact why BG3 gets a pass on wokeshit from me, that and they clearly were passionate about making a game first and not pushing propaganda first like you see with EA.Oh well, they didn't listen and red wave happened so I'm gucci.
>>3657420I guess they want to explore or relate to the issue in roleplaying, thinking it adds something to their character. Like a wooden leg on a pirate
>>3657420it's called virtue signalling, as for the reason that's popular, it's because people aren't willing to face any real challenges beyond affiliation their own appetites. corpos are happy to stoke these hedonistic distractions.
>>3657488>I can kill or recruit any orc I wantiron will disagrees
>>3657491>This is in fact why BG3 gets a pass on wokeshit from me, that and they clearly were passionate about making a game first and not pushing propaganda firstThis is interesting to me, because I had the opposite reaction. I enjoyed the early access version when it first came out and then dropped the game for three years until retail and then when it came out I realized they'd spent three years of early access money paying tranny youtubers to voice tranny characters and adding pronouns and feminine penises and non-binary vitiligo sliders and making half of the Sword Coast brown, brown elves and brown humans and brown halflings and brown dwarves and so on, and it was plain as day that act 1 was polished and complete and then the quality of the game just dropped off a cliff after that, with act 3 being like half unfinished and blatantly cut. I was like "what the FUCK happened to this game?"
>>3647712>What you play as>Where you go>Who to kill>What you lootAll the choice you ever need. Fuck all this normalfag storyfag garbage.
>>3654111Even better no woke shit.
>>3647712Alpha Protocol
>>3647950its ok but you can really feel the wasted potential of this game.
