snoozefest.

>>3661104
Bugs, poor quest design, unclear quest and dialogue triggers, subpar writing, subpar combat, poor leveling system.

plastic crack and an autistic community that will get mad if you don't paint your figurines and actually try to come up with broken strategies

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>>3661104
This is not how you get into 40k, holy shit this post actually made my blood boil

>>3661124
it is you can be a retard psyker that asks what a psyker is owlcat babyproofed it.

>>3661132
Either play the beer and pretzel games, play the RTS, or play the slitherine published games. Hell, blood bowl is a better intro to what GW is *really* about lol

>>3661104
>I don't know anything about 40k
Here you go, anon, here's everything you need to know about 40k.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gBgXH7eyRo4
>Milord, our entrenched positions are being charged by orkz.
>Splendid. We shall abandon the positions and counter-charge them, uphill.
Based.

>>3661132
>it is you can be a retard psyker that asks what a psyker is
Based Ultima reference by Owlcat, the trve saviors of cRPGs.

>>3661120
I hope you get raped by a pack of aids-infested niggers, bugman.

>>3661124
Then fucking hang yourself

>>3661161
Do you think this is something a mentally sound individual would say?

>>3661192
Do you ever remove that cock from your mouth?

>>3661104
Mediocre game to be honest.

People here really hate RT huh, what are /vrpg/ approved cRPGs?

>>3661333
Pretty much all jrpgs.

>>3661333
I'll play it and enjoy it at some point. The Pathfinder games have demonstrated that it's good to wait a bit for all the bugs to get properly ironed out

>>3661333
>People here really hate RT huh
I’m waiting to play it until it’s done being patched and getting DLC because Owlcat releases buggy and unfinished games.

What a shame, the game looks so neat.
>>3661124
Then how do I get into it? All the other games are strategy games (which I don't like) and I don't care about the tabletop. I'm only interested in the world and Rogue Trader seems to be the only RPG set in it. I guess Space Marine also looks fun.

>>3661124
I disagree, RT does a lot to help you understand the setting without having to read a bunch of mediocre novels. By the end of the game you'll understand quite a fair bit of 40k's narrative.

>>3661192
he's just upset that i'm a namefig

i liked this place better in proto /b/ when everyone was using a tripcode except on the /l/ board and never really agreed with anonymous culture in the first place, and my writing style is so recognizable i don't even need a tripcode, i tend to hit the character limit, be like whatever, and just ctrl-x my most recent paragraph ctrl-v and keep typing at lightspeed

>>3661347
>the setting
lol
lmao even

>>3661340
>>3661338
>>3661333
I'm about halfway through it now and haven't come across any bugs yet.

>>3661346
Don't listen the the haters, Rogue Trader is good. I've been pretty surprised by how well the game has captured the tone and feel of the 40k setting.

>>3661644
>the tone and feel of the 40k setting.
I hate what the 40k fanbase has become, this is so gay

>>3661646
Mate, if you're still playing 40k then you're the gay one.
That shit's a dumpsterfire now and has been for years.

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>>3661346
There's hundreds of novels, some of them are even good

I recommend starting with Eisenhorn. It's probably what's going to get adapted anyway now Henry Cavill and Amazon have sorted out the creative differences

>>3661104
I have been playing it everyday for like a week now from when I get home to when I go to bed so just warning you it's addictive and good

the game will receive a huge update in December, you should wait to play.

>>3662061
>the game will receive a huge update in December, you should wait to play.

Wait 5 years to play a mediocre crpg.
yeah i don't think i will

>>3662127
NTA but every game in the last five years that I played right at launch was a disappointment due to bugs, unfinished or cut content, hasty patches breaking playthroughs, etc. I would’ve had an objectively better experience had I waited a year or two for it to be done before playing. This is simply the state of the industry now.

>>3662129
Other devs and Owlcat are not even in the same league. Owlcat takes "broken and unfinished" to the 10th level. Broken questlines, softlocks and gamebreaking issues is the norm for them.

>>3661104
Owlcat makes broken shit, but it's *FUN* broken shit, unlike the slop we get from most rpg devs these days. The combat is genuinely fun, and I say that as a man who is normally so grug-brained that I'll immediately close the store page if I see turn-based combat in your description; the decision to give everyone lots of AP and MP per turn means you always get to accomplish something; support characters can give other party members extra turns or immediate attacks in addition to buffing or healing; DPS characters just shit out extra attack after extra attack. It's great. As for the setting:

You're a funny space pirate man, with a special paper from God that says you can do whatever you want.
Your ship is a 2,000 meter long flying city, crewed by approximately 25,000 listed crewmen and God-only-knows how many filthy unregistered peasants living in the bilge
Your ship flies through Hell every FTL jump, and has to have every course navigated by a mutant fish woman
Your engineering department is staffed by a cabal of autistic monks who worship the little gremlins that live inside every computer
They are the only people allowed to actually know how anything works, everyone else gives given basic instructions on how to press the power button but it's called some fancy shit like The Litany Of Engaging The Motive Force
Your ship might be alive and is definitely haunted
Your main bodyguard is an old guy who can be ordered to read your entire title at every opportunity
During the tutorial you'll pick up a crazy nun with a grenade-launching assault rifle, and a devil-worshipping telepath who's also one of the only people in the entire setting to have a functional moral compass
At one point early on, you are given the option to mercy kill an entire planet. It's objectively the right thing to do, considering I didn't, and the horror of witnessing Satan ass-fuck an entire planet forever gave me a permanent penalty to willpower.

>>3662144
They really are the second coming of troika!

>>3661104
it's a step up from the pathfinder crap

>>3661104
Rogue Traders live a very different life from pretty much any other human in the setting. But that means they have more freedom to interact with and explore the universe compared to... basically anyone else who isn't just such a supreme badass that can kill their way out of any problems they'd encounter.
It's got a codex to explain stuff as you run into it. Just don't do stupid stuff and get annoyed with it as a result. Like playing a character type you don't understand, asking someone in the game to explain it to you and then acting like the game fucked that up.
It's not Mass Effect. You don't have to click every dialogue option.

Larian, Bethesda and especially Bioware need to play RT and pay attention to Idira as an example of how to write a sarcastic, irreverent character that doesn't break my suspension of disbelief every time they open their mouth

>>3661147
>What's a paladin?

Ultima was also my first thought.
I'm...not entirely proud of this.

>>3661346
>strategy games (which I don't like) and I don't care about the tabletop.
Damn you are not going to have a good time then

>>3662613
The things you learn from Owlcat are whats NOT to do

>>3661104
Kino. Also 30k is superior, read Horus heresy books.

>>3662144
The entirety of Act 3 in BG3 was (and still is to some degree, at least the last time I played it) an utter disaster at launch. I haven't played Rogue Trader, but I did play both Kingmaker and WotR close to launch. They both had lots of bugs, of course, but I wouldn't say they were significantly worse than BG3 was.

>>3662740
Kingmaker was a disaster on lauch, WotR was heavily bugged.

>>3662740
>The entirety of Act 3 in BG3 was (and still is to some degree, at least the last time I played it) an utter disaster at launch.
Yup, was fucked. They cut almost all of the planned upper city and didn’t even have epilogue slides. My 3080 would get 100-140 fps in act 1 and got 30-60 in act 3, at launch.
>I haven't played Rogue Trader, but I did play both Kingmaker and WotR close to launch. They both had lots of bugs, of course, but I wouldn't say they were significantly worse than BG3 was.
I didn’t play Kingmaker until it was fully patched, but I played WotR at launch and it was virtually unplayable for about six months. I’ve heard Kingmaker was about as bad. That’s why I haven’t touched RT yet.
I’m happy to criticize BG3 all day long, and it was indeed unfinished and buggy at launch, but it was playable at least.

>>3662746
>RT
Launch was more or less fine up until a certain cumrag section. A year+ later some of the bugs have been fixed but it's still a mess and a half, especially later.

>>3661378
>>3661646
It's a fucking RPG dude, that shit does actually matter, it's what makes the genre stand out from others, it used to be that RPGs were the ONLY games that had story of note.

i tried to like this game as i enjoy the w40k rts but the combat is so bad... it's all about giving extra turns to characters and none of the skills are fun

>>3664974
You can break the game without a single officer or bounty hunter, really. You just break the curve too easily after a chapter and a half

>>3661124
Nobody cares about 40k just as nobody cared about Pathfinder.

>>3661104
Read the books

>>3665082
Pathfinder is legitimately dead, while a lot of people care about 40k.

Played space marines and I enjoyed it, will I enjoy this game?

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>>3661104
Space Marine companion should've been Fallen, simply for kino-tier GreatCrusade/HH-era gear instead of bland ultramarine slop given to primaris and fun banters with Argenta

>ROGUE trader
>not a roguelike

>>3665192
shooters and crpgs are totally different genres soooo i dunno.

>>3665987
mostly I wanted to know if the setting is well fleshed out like in the shooter one, cause I enjoyed that in the other game, so I guess in a crpg the setting that would have to shine even more, all I recall when the game came out is that it was really buggy and quests broke all the time

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The other thread is dead so I'm gonna hop on this one too
Are officers still busted and should I make MC one? or can I have him be a melee fag without consequence?

>>3665995
If you're into 40k for the setting I don't think there's a better option than this. It's the only 40k vidya I can think of that goes deep into what's going on when people aren't shooting or stabbing each other. As for bugs, I can't speak for everyone obviously but when I played through the game recently I only had a few minor bugs crop up in the later parts of the game. It feels unpolished in terms of cutscene animations and whatnot, but nothing that stopped me from progressing.

>>3666028
Officers are still really good but you get two Officer party members very early into the story who can be optimized without much trouble, and even if you're Officermaxxing two is pretty much all you need. The MC is the most flexible character in the game, so if you're so inclined you can very easily make them your best melee fighter.

Do not invest in the Chain Weapon or Force Weapon skills, they're traps.

>>3666197
>Chain Weapon or Force Weapon skills
You're a lying asshole. Two of the hands down best melee weapons in the game are chainaxes and forceweapons are gamebreaking awesome. Literally, the bloody things crashed my game a couple of times with the damage output I did.

>>3666028
Kinda and for the love of God no. No faster way to suck what fun there is in this games combat then spend 40-120 seconds each fight buffing.

>>3666206
My issue with Force weapons is just that I found like, three in the entire game.

>>3666210
There's six I believe but yeah, alright, that's fair. They're still completely bonkers if you build for them. And unlike say, power armor, you can actually find a couple, and very early at that, or even conjure one.

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So I need to do a whole new game if I want to play the DLC, I can't do it mid game right?

>>3666224
You can do it even after cumrag if that's your thing

>>3666224
You HAVE been obsessively holding onto 50,000 different save files, right anon?

>>3666229
Screw not doing that. Last time I went about deleting old saves I also deleted the currently active one. Lost about 40 hrs lol.

>>3666214
What's there to build for Force weapons besides Blade of Light and all the usual melee skills?

>>3666295
Well, what's there to build for guns? Just take one and shoot it lol. If you want to get the sword of faith for santic early and be able to conjure it reliably each turn without five officers buffing your ass you need think about it a bit harder then taking one trait. And when you start thinking you might as well start stacking different types of base damage increase, use two forceswords with dualwield to proc their third attack several (which also counts as a psy power in regards to damage calculation) for psy manifestations with the psyker breastplate and or idiras gloves or that dogmatic head and yet more scaling, building a pyro am from either a bladedancer or solder that has unlimited attacks as long as they're killing and so on.

Is warrior/Pyro psyker still a good combo?

>over a week
>OP still hasn't played the game
>OP is still asking dumb questions to dishonestly bump the thread
This place is a shithole now

>>3666649
>now
It's always been a shithole

>>3666649
There is only ever two choices to make with an owlcat game.
Either you wait 5 years after release for the game to be half finished and partially polished or you never play it at all.

>>3666645
Pyro Warrior - Executioner could be I guess?
My preference is Pyro Soldier - Arch militant and just run around being a fire mage making a million attacks per turn. If they dont die quickly you turn into a tanky warrior in your own right.

>>3666028
The two officers you get are pretty amazing
Cassia
>spends most of their AP doing navigator shit
>Grand strat so she goes first to group enemies up and stare at them etc and then gives a turn to someone to aoe them all too
Jae
>can skill monkey the majority of the game if you buff her fellowship hard enough
>Fills some of the other useful skills of officer that Cassia neglected for more warp powers
>sucks in combat so its only natural to use all her ap for support stuff, can throw grenades for free??
Making your MC an officer would be very boring. You would be more suited going something like soldier which the game doesn't give you a lot of.

>>3666742
Jae is good in combat, she just needs gear and a decent number of ranks in master tactician
Cassia is broken from the very instant you recruit her

>>3666746
Low Ini + Low power at the start of combat so she doesn't exactly set the world on fire for that first turn which can be crucial to breaking combat on unfair. Theres a lot that she can do to make your combat go better though and the better you are doing the better she gets.

>>3666750
But she literally sets the world on warpfire at the start of combat

>>3661644
>I'm about halfway through it now and haven't come across any bugs yet.
It was really bad at launch and for the first few months after but as of right now and with the DLC released the playability has exponentially increased. It's like night and day. I think the peple who claim it's full of game breaking bugs are people whose save file became soft-locked mid Act 2 got mad (justifiably) and have written it off not knowing how much better the situation is now. That or people just repeating memes they saw here having never even played it which is the true 4chan tradition of shitposting.

> Rogue Trader is good.
I unironically think Rogue Trader has the best party companions in any CRPG ever. Maybe Arcanum or BG2 are on-par or better depending on personal taste but this is the first CRPG where I wanted every character in my party all the time.

i might buy the warhammer 40k boomer shooter that's on sale. idk anything about wh40k, but it looks kinda fun.

>>3666949
>every character
...even jae? What's wrong with you man?

>saying the game is buggy is shitposting
How about you go fuck yourself. They did fix a lot of the issues, like a lot. But I bricked myself with gamebreaking bugs no less than twenty times by the time I left act 1. Act. Fucking. 1. The starport rebel leader running away past a wall as in literally clipping thru a wall and leaving you forever stuck in combat bug that was on launch is still present. Got permanently stuck in combat about a dozen times when kibbles either used veil of blades and never ended her turn or used the morale and ended up on top of cover without being able to move to the zone exit. Best part about that is that I specifically started a new run on the patch that specifically said they fixed that. Pressing the fast forward button to speed up the animations or skip cutscenes leaves the UI half transparent and completely fucked about 7/10. Pasqal still having his bug where he can equip multiple sets of weapons without being able to use 2, 2h weapons. Aurora moonwalking into shuttles and not actually dying. The warden spawning in unreachable areas. Cassia station final showdown literally everyone turning hostile.

And that's of the top of my head act 1 you're proper fucked moments I experienced like last month.

>>3666976
> I experienced like last month.
Are you sure you aren't the issue? My last run was last month and I had none of those issues or anything close. The worst I had was camera placement issues during cut scenes and during one fight I had enemies stop acting on their turn but was able to find a fix.
And that's it.
Do you have auto-update turned off in steam or something to not get the fixes?

Line of sight is still broken. Enemies still shoot through walls that you can't shoot through. Even the most basic fundamental shit doesn't work.

>>3666949
>I unironically think Rogue Trader has the best party companions in any CRPG ever.
I like every companion in RT, which is more than can be said for most RPGs but but the Torment cast still mogs them

>>3666949
>I unironically think Rogue Trader has the best party companions in any CRPG ever ... this is the first CRPG where I wanted every character in my party all the time.
I've just got to the Commorragh transition and I've had to take a break to decide who I leave behind.
How can I got anywhere without my bros Abelard, Heinrix or Argenta or the qts KIbellah and Cassia?

Here's hoping Jae, Pasqual and Idira are just as good when I do my heretic playthrough.

>>3666983
Brand new install, double checked the version. Made sure to start a completely new run after patch dropped. Saw the same issues mentioned and repeated about half a dozen times in multiple places by other people including the patch notes in which they supposedly fixed a bunch of them. And then on the hotpatch notes for that patch that they actually fixed it this time.

I like owlkike games and I do think they're some of the best crpgs out recently, but anyone claiming they're not buggy even years after release is a shill at best I'm still waiting for that pathfinder horse charge animation fix Ivan and a malicious lying gaslighting cocksucker at worst. So, which one are you pal?

>>3666976
I haven't noticed a single one of those bugs.

Literally the only bugs I've noticed are
>The same cut scene camera placement issues >>3666983 mentions (nothing particularly egregious but it did take me a bit of time to work out why the kymeras were dead at the start of the Cormmorragh area fight - I assume my fellow guardsmen went all Al Qaeda with their hand grenades after my inspirational speech but the camera was facing in completely the wrong direction), and;
>The blue text in a conversation with Yrliet seeming to think I let the Eldar on Janus live when I gunned down every single one of the xenos bastards.

>>3666985
Haven't noticed that either.
I've they're in full cover they can step out as they shoot and then step back in to become untargetable but that's the system working as intended.

>>3666976
>But I bricked myself with gamebreaking bugs no less than twenty times by the time I left act 1. Act. Fucking. 1. The starport rebel leader running away past a wall as in literally clipping thru a wall and leaving you forever stuck in combat bug that was on launch is still present. Got permanently stuck in combat about a dozen times when kibbles either used veil of blades and never ended her turn or used the morale and ended up on top of cover without being able to move to the zone exit. Best part about that is that I specifically started a new run on the patch that specifically said they fixed that. Pressing the fast forward button to speed up the animations or skip cutscenes leaves the UI half transparent and completely fucked about 7/10. Pasqal still having his bug where he can equip multiple sets of weapons without being able to use 2, 2h weapons. Aurora moonwalking into shuttles and not actually dying. The warden spawning in unreachable areas. Cassia station final showdown literally everyone turning hostile.
I have about 120hrs on the game (right at the end of my first playthrough), Windows 10, GOG launcher, AMD/AMD, and I have never seen any of these things. I've seen some dead enemies T pose, and maybe a story bug or two but that's it.

>>3666994
>So, which one are you pal?
Whichever one of those genuinely isn't affected by whatever bugs are fucking you over. I had a lot of issues at launch and now I don't. The game runs really well for me.
Sorry you're having such a rough time with it but don't take it out on me.

>actual samefagging shill
As I live and breathe

>>3662553
this is actually a very accurate description

>>3666992
I highly suggest Pasqal. Any interaction with him and mechanicus is always fun, hes my lock pick and computer pusher which makes that shit a non issue, and I just stacked him as an executioner so he'll oneshot or near one shot most of the meatier enemies.

>>3666999
>I've they're in full cover they can step out as they shoot and then step back in to become untargetable but that's the system working as intended.
No, there is literal one way line of sight where enemies can shoot directly through cover that you can't.

>>3662553
>You're a funny space pirate man, with a special paper from God that says you can do whatever you want.
This should be the game's tagline.

>>3662553
Man owlcat threads are the most forced disengenous marketing shit I have ever seen

>>3667087
No kidding. This made miss the waifu spergs.

>>3667072
Yeah, the few times I have brought him along for Mechanicus-themed missions he's had some pretty great dialogue.
I stopped bringing him along partly because I built both him and my MC as operative-bounty hunters, and the Claim The Bounty/Savour The Kill feedback loop is too cheap to continue once the novelty wears off.

Now that I think about it, that feedback loop is probably another bug I should've mentioned in >>3666999

>>3667084
Haven't seen that. I'll keep an eye out for it though.

>>3667087
Would a marketing shill call you a gorilla nigger?

>>3667109
>>3667087
Samefagging or just different ESLs sperging out?

An owlcat game
>Wow look at all these classes and weapons to pick from
>oh but don't pick those they're shit
>not those either
>or those
>you know what actually just pick among those 5 right there, the rest don't matter

>>3667235
Rogue trader isn't like this, so it's not an Owlcat thing, it's a Pathfinder thing

>>3667235
RT is the reverse situation.
Every archetype in PF games is viable on core.
Next shitpost you repeat without having any idea what the fuck is actually true?

>>3667247
>it's a Pathfinder thing
Actual pathfinder isn't like that

>>3667363
You are right, it has even more archetypes and classes and marttials are even more useless if they are not gishes

Making Cassia a Grand Strategist trivialises the game. I'm playing on hard and I can't remember the last combat that went past 3 rounds, most don't even go past one. This is silly.

Considering you're playing well after release, probably an okay experience compared to release. Made it to Act 4 in heretic before encountering a bunch of broken content and one of my companion quests got hard locked due to a bug so I quit.
Coop is complete dogshit and the game was not designed with coop as even an afterthought. I cannot rant against the coop enough. Owlcat genuinely broke into my house and killed my dog with this "attempt" at coop
Combat is obscenely unbalanced, buggy, and swingy. I don't know if they ever fixed the scaling problem - on harder difficulties either the enemy can one turn you or you hit turn 2 and have scaled into the stratosphere and can no longer lose, which is a novelty for a bit and then just plain boring.
Otherwise the world is fun. Lots of fun decisions to make, cool, weird companions to meet, fun situations to get into, etc. It feels like a nice satirical grimdark universe.

>>3662740
> I haven't played Rogue Trader
The only people who compare BG3's launch to Rogue Trader's launch are people who didn't play RT.
BG3 at least you could finish. It wasn't great, and there were side quests you couldn't finish, but you could finish the game.
RT heretic was just abandoned Act 4 and onwards. iirc many people couldn't finish until an update. The secret companion for the heretic route didn't even have a weapon - which was a problem because at the time he could only use very special weapons - or most of his text lines. Still not sure if he has those things or not because I haven't gone back.
Half the items didn't work properly. An item that was supposed to have a 50% chance to buff or mildly hurt actually had a 50% chance to do nothing or 50% chance to instantly kill you. Items had the complete wrong description. Many skills didn't work properly or did something different than what was advertised.
The skill checks were hilariously bad. Nothing like investing several perks and all gear into a skill at the expense of the rest of the character and still failing skill checks left and right

>>3661146
40k vs fantasy?

>>3668165
40k was originally invented as a semi-joke version of "Warhammer in Space". It and Fantasy are completely separate canons that have some factions that parallel each other, and some of the same evil gods. There's no direct connection between the two.

>>3668167
where do i start? i like fantasy crap but seems 40k is pretty popular, especially lately with the vidyas.

>>3668167
> It and Fantasy are completely separate canons that have some factions that parallel each other, and some of the same evil gods. There's no direct connection between the two.
Fantasy takes place on a random backwater medieval tech level world in the 40k galaxy and nothing you nor Games Workshop will ever say shall convince me otherwise

>>3668161
> BG3 at least you could finish. It wasn't great, and there were side quests you couldn't finish, but you could finish the game.
I’ll criticize bg3 all day long, and while it was indeed buggy, unfinished, and had much cut content to rush out the door, this is all true. It was in a more or less playable state at launch, and you could finish the release version, despite bugs. Owlcat games, which I do enjoy despite their jank, are on another level when it comes to buggy and rushed releases.

>>3668174
Really you should just start with whatever has interested you to begin with. There's no real "main story" and there's enough bullshit going on in the setting that you're going to get an incomplete picture no matter where you start. The Dawn of War games are popular but pretty old and kind of cheesy and simple story-wise. The Space Marine games are also popular but pretty focused entirely on just Space Marines. Rogue Trader is honestly not a bad start place to start itself; it's a story-focused game with a lot of handy exposition that covers a reasonably big cross-section.

>>3668208
>The Dawn of War games are popular but pretty old and kind of cheesy and simple story-wise.
This is why they’re great. I just replayed dow1 for the first time in 20ish years and had a blast, you could tell the VAs had so much fun with it.

>>3668221
As a bonus point, after dow1 came out I read that pdf “fluff bible” floating around in the early-mid 2000s and read all the old lore and now I’m immunized against whatever fake and gay shit games workshop says nowadays because I know it’s all heretical lies

>>3668221
My favorite is the black guy who for some reason talks like Ming the Merciless.

>>3668175
>Fantasy takes place on a random backwater medieval tech level world in the 40k galaxy and nothing you nor Games Workshop will ever say shall convince me otherwise
Confirmed canon on page 80 of the Liber Chaotica supplement
https://www.scribd.com/doc/13603975/Warhammer-Warhammer-40000-EnG-Black-Library-Liber-Chaotica-Complete
Any official statements by Games Workshop or Gamesworkshop staff are to be considered heretical and reported to your local division of the Adeptus Arbites.

>>3668174
The link above has some cool fluff and art on the chaos gods.

What do you want?
>I want to play the tabletop wargames
Don't. They're shit now.
Go back in time 10 or 20 years, or find some old grognards playing old editions in their garages.
>I just want to explore the setting
Track down some pdfs of the old codices or rulebooks for whichever armies interest you the most, I guess. Old good, new bad.
Or play Rogue Trader.
>vidya
Rogue Trader is pretty great as far as capturing the feel of the setting.
I hear the Space Marine games are decent 3rd-person shooters.
Total War: Warhammer is a fantasy strategy game.
Warhammer: Vermintide is a fantasy co-op first person shooter.
There's a bunch more but they're all old or I don't know anything about them.
>ttrpgs
Warhammer Fantasy Roleplay is good. The 2nd and 4th editions are the best.
The 40k rpgs by Fantasy Flight Games (Dark Heresy, Rogue Trader and the rest) are also good.
They also include enough info about the setting that you could play with random mates even if they don't know anything about 40k/warhammer to begin with.
>Books
I seriously enjoyed the Eisenhorn and Ravenor trilogies. The Gaunt's Ghosts and the Gotrek and Felix books too.
I was a kid when I read all these though. I reckon the Eisenhorn books might stand up to a reread but I dunno about the rest.
The Horus Heresy books are garbage.
>Movies
Nope. Fuck all.
You should watch Event Horizon though.

>>3668221
The VA for Dawn of War 2 is exceptional. Probably the best VA for an RTS to date.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=etm3Z8E4F18

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jD4hD9CuBcM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nb6cSEI1FLk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kzmo0_NePM0

DoW2 is also fun to play in co-op.

>>3661104
For a game called Rogue Trader that is allegedly about exploration you do very little of trading or exploration, the cut content are obvious when it comes to that I would preferred to have a proper colony management and trading than that boring ass space combat we got, especially when you can't even buy New ships because they gave up on this. It's the typical owlcat game design, they can never focus on one thing and do it right, they tried to expand, realize they can't actually deliver than gut everything out because it's easier.

>>3668626
For me it's the reputation and profit factor system.

The whole point of it is that you're supposed to be so wealthy that you don't deal in conventional money etc and yet, somehow, they've invented a system that makes it feel like the exact opposite. I own planets (one of which is a god damn forgeworld, covered from pole to pole in heavy industry and armament factories), why the fuck am I looting knives and scrappy las pistols from dead mutants or searching through random boxes in the slums of Footfall to collect 'low capacity fuel canisters'?
It's like someone in the Owlcat design team has a very specific idea of how crpg gameplay is supposed to go, so even though they had the profit factor system from the ttrpg, they had to layer on their own reputation mechanic on top so they had some way to make you go around collecting trash.

>>3668226
>Gaunt's Ghosts
>Space Marine games
>Total War: Warhammer
Bro, that's all garbage

>>3668226
>GW's biggest shill is an 8 year old trapped in a 40 year old man's body that hates everything about actual 40k, doesn't play the tabletop, reads the atrocious novels, and can't move on because he's drowning in an ocean of nostalgia faggotry
People say 40k is grimdark, but your existence is honestly worse.